I paid $4,000 to be to part of an elite alpha male training course. Every morning I dip my junk in boiling water, scream at the mirror for 20 minutes, and insult women as they pass me on the street. And I gotta say my blood pressure has increased 69%
You can't get this done in 1 wk. Train Bjj. Work for it for 5 yrs to get purple belt. 10 yrs to get brown or black. And not get shown on a video doing it.
@@doktor3196 I think what he means is they could just join an MMA Or Jiu-Jitsu gym to get that comradery , and feeling of brotherhood. And financially it would be cheaper and healthier for them both physically and psychologically. And at least with a Jiu-Jitsu gym, if you end up in a video on RUclips you’re less likely to look as desperate as some of these guy’s
@@robertnguyen9493 Precisely. And the fight skills acquired over consistent period of time is real commitment then a 1 wk boot camp. Plus as someone who has been injured a few times and had trouble functioning at work during rehab, getting hurt over this is not worth the risk of livelihood. I have a disability insurance and if the company knew i did something like this and came knocking for the benefit, I'd be thrown out.
@@doktor3196 a 1 week boot camp, where at the end you have the delusion of thinking that you’ve “changed” and that now you’re a “alpha male” vs a lifetime of training, developing skills, fitness and lessons that you can pass on to your children and form a stronger connection with them. A lifetime of work, where you are consistently evolving and improving as a person vs 1 week of torture under the guise of “it will change your life”people will chose the torture cause it’s a quick fix. Which is really sad! Also, I understand about being on disability, you have my empathy.
Yes the problem is that to be an alpha male you need the opposite of this. Instead of paying for boot camp you must pay escort girls to spend a week with you in a hotel room. They constantly agree with you, compliment you, make sex tapes with you, role play that you are the chosen one who will lead humanity to a bright future. The alpha male confidence boost from that will last at least a year.
As a former Marine who went through boot camp and ITB, this is wack lol. Just join the military if you want the actual experience, plus you’ll earn benefits if you make it through and it looks great on resume
@@BuffaloNickel9 My therapist told me that getting too curious and looking at the profiles of weird fuckups in RUclips comments isn't worth it, but I just keep doing it out of morbid curiosity and it turns out that the ridiculous, one-sided, idealized, self-congratulatory stories told by people who break down their entire self to 'guns' are probably exactly the same as my therapist. Made up.
heres an idea for an actual "how to be a man" bootcamp. its just a course containing: basics on car, electronics and home repair, how to do your own taxes, basic home cooking, a short break to discuss mental health and finding genuine contentment in your life and finally no cringy larping necessary
Honestly, this is pretty good. Back in my brief period in the PUA/Redpill circles, I hated the idea of a bootcamp due to the high price and short duration of training. Anything that can be fixed in a weekend isn't worth thousands of dollars, and anything that would warrant thousands of dollars in training is going to take minimum of three months to fix. If I were to do a bootcamp, it'd be a minimum of six months, with weekly training. I'd throw in fashion, fitness, and probably how to find your interests and development of healthy relationships with men and women. Therapy will definitely be a thing. I'd have actual professionals giving advice.
@@HammadiLobbongel Not everyone wants to ge married and also not everyone is straight and even the people who are married and are straight, it's cool to not be dependent, specially because people travel, they have other commitments like work, so my point remain, OP idea would be good for everyone.
I'll add to that Have your opinion, don’t adjust your opinion to the audience Don’t take advantage of people even if you could Don’t lie in order to have an advantage Own up to your mistakes even if you could shift the blame on some poor bastard
I love how they fetishize military training considering how a lot of ex-military I know are either terrible people, horribly maladjusted, undergoing physical damage way too soon, depressed, lonely, etc.
When you enlist you get three complimentary mental illnesses, free of charge! PTSD and Anxiety are always included, but the last one is up to random chance, so fun!
@@eta_carithebrightlord3396 Absolutely. It’s not exclusively wartime either. Many facets of military life and training can screw with the life of members both physically and mentally. We are often showed glorified results through the military’s success stories….but there’s an underbelly of men and women coming out either hating life, having bad knees, having bad backs, dealing with social isolation, etc. My entire life has been spent around or with veterans of varying shapes and sizes. The military is not an alpha breeding machine. This boot camp simulation is bogey baloney and usually just an excuse for people who failed to get the point of the DI/ DS/ MTI to be raging dickwads to insecure people for no good reason…. And I guess get paid for it now.
The worst part is, I think, some of them HAD dads, but they were too emotionally distant for it to matter. Like, some men are just so scared of being called some variation of "gay" or "feminine" they'd rather not bound with their kids at all.
To be fair, you have no idea the history of any of these guys. For all you know some are just ex military and masochistic and loved bootcamp. Yeah this stuff is cringe, but the amount of weird fetishes out there. The strong emotions it elicits from viewers is more telling about the viewer., I’m honestly more interested in knowing your relationship with your father and other men in your life.
@@elfodelputoinfiernoa softer answer is that they feel emasculated from society and this is a coping mechanism. Now for why they do it varies from person to person. On a unrelated note…I can do this for a living. I’m young and met plenty of dudes that want to have a bromance😂. Almost like an idol, “correct me on having a manly handshake and all” . But it’s just sad and I don’t know how to help.
@@elfodelputoinfiernoas a man raised by a dad who I can count the number of times we have hugged on my hands, you are no idea how correct you are with your comment.
ironically youre doing the same thing the he accuses these "Alpha men" of. Youre just associating stereotypical "male values" with "being a man". "Honor" "responsibility" "duty" stuff liek that.
It also excludes such perks as Travelling the world work all expenses paid College tuition being paid for Unrestricted access to firearms in virtually any caliber Potential for the massacre of unarmed civilians of any age and gender, with excessive firepower, with no repercussions
these dudes would benefit way more from simply joining a combat sport gym, seeing a therapist, & spending more time with their families, they’d find what they’re searching for lol
@umar b except it shouldnt be 6000 fucking dollars and the instructor should be someone who actually has bootcamp experience not some dude you put on a pedestal because he called himself an alpha male. There are so many cheaper options like taking a martial arts class or just fucking enrolling in the military (which you can get paid for) but these people are so insecure they’d rather shill 6000 for a “high value alpha male” to scream at them lmao. It deserves to be clowned
I was a military bootcamp instructor. This is what happens when big egos don't make the cut, so they play pretend after the navy seals training footage on youtube. My god what a cringe fest. Edit: for everyone claiming Im making shit up - mil instructor from germany. I don't know what specific terms you use. I specifically didn't use "drill instructor" because they carry the rank of at least a seargeant, I don't
What makes a man a man is his consistency and character. Served in the Army’s infantry for 6 years. I’ve realized there is no Alpha or Beta (that’s just dude astrology) it’s all about how you react when when the bullets fly
There is way more than just "when the bullets fly." There are so many rats, snakes, and brown nosers in the military. Let alone, all the weak individuals that joined infantry to "be" something they're not. Not saying you're that, but man... The amount of shitty people I've met was astonishing. Dudes that were absolute liabilities, fakes, etc. Met some of the best people, too. But really, the Military means nothing as a title. They're all still the same people they most likely came in as, but are now just wearing a uniform. This is how "BroVets" became a thing. They didn't peak in highschool, so they peaked in their 4 year contract. LMFAO!
It'd be cool to grab a beer with you and get your take on this. I agree, but having not done any military service I don't have that sort of experience.
My buddy signed me up for this the other week. They would not stop spamming me. When I told them to stop contacting me the guy told me to get my life together, while I’m at work. Told him to stop cosplaying soldier and your a weirdo. It did the trick
Not the best buddy if they sign you up for something you didn't want. Glad you said no (also I suppose there's some schadenfreude fun in imagine him panicking at all the money he spent going down the drain)
These dudes must have had an easy life. I am 61 and most of my life as a man has almost killed me. You cannot prep for the invisible enemy and the sneak attacks. Lucky them to have the money to pay for this humiliation ritual.
I haven’t laughed this hard in ages. This is the most down bad thing I’ve ever witnessed. I’m comfortable with the way I am as a man. I don’t need no fake military scam service to determine my manhood.
@@andrewbergquist7900 nothing wrong with training like the military without the moral issues with enlisting in an imperial band of cowards only declaring war on poor countries and often loosing too.
The worst of it to me (aside from obviously the whole aLpHa thing) is that it's a futile endeavor as they're not gaining any skills or physical improvement. Those things require consistent training, you're not going to become great at survival from carrying a log in the mud one night and you're not going to be physically fit from a week of grueling exercise. You're just going to be very sore. The possible trauma from all the psychological abuse, however, both before and during the bootcamp, WILL stay with them. What a horrible scam all around.
Here's what the military taught me that's more important than all the meathead warrior stuff: problem solve the situation in front of you. If you don't know how to do something, read the instructions, find someone who has done it, or experiment/innovate. I had some insecurities like this heading in but that was the biggest thing that changed for me, learning how to be effective. You don't have to join the military to do that.
Not at 45 yrs old though. This is boot camp for the board room cucks. Difference is for hell week the seals had years of daily physical training. The Crucible just takes Phil from accounting and dunks him into the Atlantic at 3am
One easy way to make money out of people is to find a regular insecurity and exploit it. Thats why we have shampoo for bald people, weight Lost pills, make up and high heels.
I can’t believe that one guy went to this camp the week of his child’s birth. It’s not a real bootcamp man there was no reason to be there the week your child was to be born. You want to be a better man how about start by being present for the birth of child.... Phil if you ever start a bootcamp/cult I was in the real military and would be one of your drill instructors if you need one lol
Whenever I start feeling bad about my many, many, many inadecuacies and defects, at least now I can think "well, I didn't drop 7k to be yelled at by a stranger at larp camp, so I have that going for me".
@@poisonmantis4191 It's especially fun and even physically beneficial if it's with medieval groups that work with real armor and weapons. There probably isn't any better simultaneous work-out and stress reliever than getting to wrestle, bash, and kick guys who are in full steel armor, especially since it's both super safe *and* says "go ahead, punch that guy all you want".
@@poisonmantis4191 Randomly reminded me of a time I was out towing someone a good 100 miles or so out, and they were talking about how they were an assistant medic at a crazy hardcore renaissance faire, which evidently had barrels of rum that they made from scratch, and some crazy stories of people being real goofy or stupid while in full gear (one of which being that a drunk dude accidentally brought in a sharp sword and cut himself badly in the leg, but didn't realize it, so everyone else had to hold him down so he wouldn't bleed out while the more official medics arrived.) I'm sure that most faires don't have homemade rum, but either way they sure do sound really cool to visit.
As a Navy a recruiter, these are the guys that say “I tried to join, but my recruiter fucked me over” when in reality they were just too scared to pull the trigger. They do this cause it’s the closest thing 😂😂
As a former Marine these are the dudes who gave some bullshit about I couldnt make it through boot cause id straight up punch my DIs. Jesus man i have more respect for airsoft players least they know they are Larping.
I’m in the military and Jocko said it best about civilian physical encounters, your best tool is your legs. Run, it’s not worth it unless you’re protecting family and they are in danger
Imagine realizing you spent your hard-earned money to be lost in the woods with a bunch of lost ass middle-aged white guys with an identity crisis and mortgage getting yelled at by another set of guys with daddy issues
I honestly feel sorry for these guys 😂. It just shows that we really need more healthy masculine figures in society even more.....so they don't go to bullshit like this LMAO 😂😂
I felt really bad when the Alpha Male kicked all that sand in the aspirant dude's head... for 6700 dollars... not because his head was full of sand but because that cost him money... they could spend it instead on something really heroic like helping poor children get their school lunch or build a new well somewhere in the Third World so people have access to clean water...
Honestly I'm so glad I discovered rock climbing when I started to get insecure about my masculinity and stuff. I ended up in a much healthier community while bonding with other guys ! It was great ! Rock climbing is great !
I went to an MMA camp for boys in high school. Don't like making assumptions but I'm willing to bet that taught me more valuable stuff than you know, how to raise your blood pressure. Seriously though. If you wanna build confidence doing some kind of physical discipline is a great start. Not only are you more confident in your body, but you're surrounded by people who want you to be the best version of you.
"We want to help you mentally and physically. To create a brotherhood to help you to be motivated. To be the best man you can be" 10 seconds later.... "You are a piece of shit man! You're useless and a failure! You'll never make it!" I bet you anything that the wives that notice a positive change only see it because their Husbands are realizing how good they have it. That t's better to have a kind, warm wife than having a guy on a ego trip, taking their money and yelling at them and putting them down.
I was in the Army and spent my 22nd birthday invading Iraq. This shit mocks the service of thousands of soldiers and makes me sick. If you really want this experience, just join the reserves or National Guard.
I don’t think it’s mocking service so much as just a bunch of dudes who saw GORUCK and noticed you don’t need to be special forces cadre to run these camps and charge out of the ass. It’s a good laugh watching these guys try so hard to impersonate selection yet miss the point entirely. They didn’t even get log PT right, gonna break some poor guys neck trying to be BUD/S instructors (seriously though, there are specific standards to make sure people don’t fucking die doing this stuff, they’re gonna kill someone.)
I actually feel sorry for those dudes. It will be a while before they have realised how stupid and CRINGEY the whole thing was, let alone the scam element of this shady 'enterprise'.
I don't feel bad because these are the dudes who probably yell at grocery store clerks, and then whine on MRA subreddits because they're that miserable.
The crazy thing is, a few years ago when I was at very low place in my life, I absolutely would have fallen for this kinda “band of brothers” type of thing hahah
Happens to the best of us. Especially in our late teens early 20s. A lot easier for us too fall for this shit. Or pyramid schemes. Things like NFTs scams and all that trash
I feel like these guys focus too much on being “high value” rather than just being an asset in general to the people around them. And I don’t mean that in a sigma male power trip, I think we can all agree it’s better to be someone who's in the position to be able to help others vs. the person who needs to be helped all the time. While there’s nothing wrong with needing help the world is a better place if more people aim to be assets rather than liabilities. But don’t go and pay for a week at man camp, just do your adult homework like laundry, saving more money than you spend on stupid shit, and calling the people you love to tell them you care about them. That’s just being a competent adult no need to put that on a pedestal
Asset is 100 percent correct whether its your personal relationships or your job. If you're an asset people are going to want to be around you and jobs are going to do everything they can to keep you.
These guys hurt to watch. These grown adult men are in such a confused headspace that they think going through this "crucible" will improve them in anyway. Geez. Take a vacation and relax like an adult.
Yeah, I agree these men have a need for validation and a need for play. Yet if they joined a sports team with good friends or get a productive hobby, it would do them much better than paying for some fight club-esque bootcamp to make some leeches rich off of their identity crises'. Maybe they're jerks in their day to day life, but I can't help but feel bad for them anyway. Our neuroses often lead us to seek irrational ways to feel validated :(
Don’t be an “alpha” male. Be a strong man. Being alpha is just trying to be dominating to feed your ego. Being strong is building values and moral codes that strengthen you and improves the lives of those around you.
Especially considering "alpha" and "beta" isn't even a real concept. It was based on a bullshit study that's been discredited. In real life there's no such thing as "alpha" "beta" or fuckin "sigma" males, whatever else they fuckin come up with. Doesn't exist.
@@snes09 I don’t necessarily agree with that. A study being discredited doesn’t disprove a social and dominance hierarchy where men place their social value on that ladder. Whether a study is real or not, it’s clear the majority of men (who are competitive and disagreeable) clearly value moving up in terms of social and dominant value. This is something even ingrained into our genetics as our nervous system releases more serotonin and is less prone to negative feelings the higher up men move in the dominance hierarchy. Having strong moral values and codes and moving up the social ladder tend to go hand in hand.
@@thog3940 Valuing "moving up the social ladder" is a misunderstanding. In reality, it's quite literally just a sense of achievement which fundamentally has nothing to do with social hierarchy. Rather, social hierarchy plays into the sense of achievement not the other way around. If you replaced the concept of valuing moving up with social ladder with literally anything that someone values achieving they will literally have the same emotional impact. This misunderstanding is the reason pseudoscientific ideas like being alpha or beta exists.
@@Azgorth02 I fully disagree. Competing for dominance in a hierarchy is something we've proven to be hardwired into men. Achieving something simply doesn't compare to competing for the next rung above on the ladder. Moving up feels great and your nervous system even rewards you for the behavior. Achievements are nice and a great thing to have, but they don't necessarily explain the need in disagreeable men to compete for more.
They're literally dollar-store military. Why does someone want to pay for a thing that you can get for free, get better quality and on top of that you'll be paid?
Either you spend 6000 dollars to go through the "Crucible" or you can find some buddies and play DND for 1% of that price or less-- the combined stress of preparing to DM and the paranoia-induced stress of being a PC together are enough to warrant an entire campaign as a true Crucible to prepare for everyday life, you can handle anything once you've faced down the demon inside you that tries to convince you that literally every single NPC is trying to betray you. On a side note, their website literally just slapped in some of the art from Mount and Blade: Warband, my sides hurt now
The funny part is that under this moronic philosophy, joining the military and failing to come out of it as General Big Dick at the top of the totem pole should be the greatest of sins, for having willingly subordinated yourself as a bitch to the military hierarchy system and a whole bunch of other dudes. What's more beta than signing away four years of your life to be told what to do, even die, by other guys? These fuckers worship everything military as if it makes you manly, instead of having been smashed into an obedient shape that doesn't really fit into any useful holes afterwards.
its a miracle they have couple, because they say arent "real man" and need this bullshit just to be alpha man, it make double miracle. I am sure, not woman would stand for man like themn.
5:55 That knife demonstration has disaster written all over it. Even the medieval manuscripts tells you to prioritize controlling the wrist and wrenching the arm so they cant go for another strike. Blocking/parrying should only be done if you have something solid protecting your hand, like a crossguard. Edit: Plus someone competent with a knife isn't gonna slash, they stab.
If you were wondering “If they wanted an intensive manly-man training course, why didn’t they just join the Marines or the National Guard for free?” It’s because you can’t just ragequit those courses when it gets hard.
From my knowledge with how most militaries operate, most militaries if you want to quit you to do some form of paperwork and whatnot, but with the French Foreign Legion, they legit jail you if you want to quit because they see that as a threat of releasing private info and disrespect. Plus at this point, i'd rather join a mercenary group than a centralized countries military because of pay, benefits and flexibility much like the French Foreign Legion because what doesn't make sense is that will mercenary groups are deemed "illegal", the only reason why the Legion exists is because the U.N. greenlight the group because of "good standing" and "policy", whatever the fuck that means.... Plus since the U.N. doesn't like mercenary groups a whole lot even though they admitted in the past they're more successful with mission and handling like the Sierra Leone Civil War (2000) that many former military soldiers turned legit mercenaries fought for.
@@lastpatriot7506 which is good. Everyone should quit the military. It’s not cool to be government property, no matter what kind of toys they let you play with.
Those dudes that wear all that military gear, we call them geardos. $6,700 for this week retreat... I'd rather join the military on a 3 year contract. That way I can actually say I did something without being embarrassed compared to doing that crap.
I’ll be honest I think getting a bunch of people together to work out and push each other is one thing. To make others pay money for a sense of brotherhood has always been trouble. Kinda like frats and sororities
Last season of "You" had a hillarious subplot where Joe is expected to go into one of those "camps" that was actually a camping trip with bunch of dudes, and a local "alpha" gives them all these challenges and shit. ironically most of them were suburban tech bros with trophy wives. Laughed my ass off at that episode.
The entire point of military training is to yes gain physical strength but the mental toughness and stress resistance is the main point. The most successful people in the world have high tolerances to high stress. But still this fake military camp was pretty hilarious.
As much as it is tolerance to stress it’s also tolerance for dumb shit. Like when normal people would get impatient and be like “wtf are we doing here??” No. You stand in that chow line for another hr for your dried out chicken and go back to polishing brass.
You can get that same mental training joining a martial art club like muay thai, wrestling etc. They push you like crazy while still being a proper environment and costs you way less than some stupid shit like this. Training and conditioning for wrestling was one of the most brutal things I've been thru and it only cost about 200 bucks for the season lol
these dudes are absolute lunatics for PAYING to go thru that. I spent 4 years in the Marines and i wouldnt ever do that stuff without getting paid or actually do that to serve your country
This instructor is most likely an SF washout that's out here trying to validate his own shortcomings. One look at him and you can see that he's as soft as bread dough.
@@ekl2947eah i highly doubt any of these guys were military and no where near SF. SF guys don't carry themselves like that, at least in general. (There's always one asshole, even in SF)
ya know, maybe it's because I'm a woman and I don't really get it so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I actually think this is very cute in a weird way. Some bros mud wrestling and crying together, getting wee friendship rings, if the verbal prompting wasn't so abusive I'd say its damn near wholesome. I mean it's super silly in the same way that women's yoga retreats are silly, but silly isn't always bad. I'm conflicted because someone could obviously get really hurt and the way they frame it as "you leave = you're a failure" is really shitty. But if these guys are lacking in a sense of purpose and connection with other men, hey, let em roll around in the dirt together. I'm sure they feel accomplished afterwards, like anyone does when they complete a real challenge. It absolutely doesn't have to be this, you could just tackle a series of increasingly difficult hiking trails or something, but man camp is cute. Cry in the mud if ya need to, fellas.
I should also point out that I say this while nodding and laughing along with Phil, it is hilarious to watch. It's just that in conjunction with the amusement, my other main reaction is "aw bless them, go ahead if it works ya boys."
You make a good point, the problem is it doesn't necessarily addres the reasons these men are there, costs loads of money and mimics military training without then being part of the military...ultimately it is mimicking something designed to make soldiers without making soldiers. At best it will give the more timid members a sense of achievement at worst it will con people out of the down payment on a house
@@RealElongatedMuskrat I second what ben said, you do make a good point. I think the primary issue is that these men don't know/think this activity is silly. I think it's healthy to do silly things as long as you realize what's going on. However I feel as though these men are taking this too seriously, hence the reason they're able to be scammed out of thousands of dollars in order to be hazed. Also consider the type of man who would sign up for this, upon completing the camp, if they read your comment, would likely verbally abuse you and put you down since calling their activity "cute" would be a severe blow to their ego. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
This is crazy. I got paid ( not a lot) to do a way better more intense version of this. But you got people paying thousands of dollars to do it?? Make it make sense🤦🏽♂️
When you cant join the navy seals so you join the navy sea lions instead, thinking you're going to fight on the front line against meninism and divorce court. but you just end joining a public humiliation fetishist men's camp in the woods.
I did a lot of those types of training while being in the Army, i was miserable and all i wanted to do is go back to my living area. But at least i got paid, not much but i did. Plus i learned something ....i guess. And these idiots are paying thousands for this type of shit? Dafuq!!!
Can you do a video on the decline of Elliot Hulse? I mean he was always a little cringe, but these days, it’s worse. He definitely has an “alpha male bootcamp”
So these “trainers” made $73’700 between the 4 of them or $18,425 each in less than a week, and all these wannabe alphas got was a ring…. Now keep in mind this was the third group assuming there were roughly the same number of people that signed up to the other two groups so 22 other people. That means these guys walked away with $221,100 or $55,275 each. Literally going into the Army would of actually been beneficial if the wanted this type of experience. You get the GI bill, free college, get fit, and even a pension.
When I was in the army if anyone asked “do you wanna quit?” My answer usually was “yes, but I won’t (insert rank here).” Gotta admit wanting to quit when your soaked wet, miserable and doing this kinda stuff is normal
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Anyone who unironically refers to themself as an ‘alpha male’ is definitely not an alpha male… Also, judging by bro’s posture and facial expressions at 21:30, this camp doesn’t accomplish a damned thing for its participants.
Phil, thank you for trying to spell out to the idiots why these camps are not only stupid but problematic. Lord knows I was a little 15 year old Ben Shapiro troll (no genuine hate on him, but I was def brainwashed, he does his job well), but guys like yourself, James Linker, ObesetoBeast...etc definitely do more good than you know. Older brothers or guidance figures a lot of us never had.
Ayy I just discovered and started watching John (ObesetoBeast) recently, he seems like such a really genuine, nice fella with lots of great personal insight into health and exercise. I'm so glad I stumbled across his channel.
I'm. female Marine veteran (I know, I don't "count" because I'm a female - lol jk) but this looks like he literally just copying Marine bootcamp. So just... go join the Marines.... even if you hate it you get free college out of it. Except this dude has literally no rasp, no bite to his voice. All the female and male DIs we had sounded like raptors. This dude is just talking slightly louder. It's a bad Marine cosplay, that's what this is.
"It's about forging your warrior spirit!" Do you know how much more of a man these dudes would be for volunteering at a soup kitchen or animal rescue? It takes real heart, courage, and fortitude to be that kindness when the world is shit. Real strength is measured by how much weight you can carry for others.
The icing on the cake for me is the fact that this bootcamp takes place in an "undisclosed location" in the woods of Northern Florida, so this basically takes place in my back yard, lmao.
Hearing "Crucible" brought back memories for me. In Marine Corps basic training there is a final three day event called the Crucible meant to be the final test for recruits. While the Marine Crucible has its share of endurance and physical tests (20 mile full pack ruck, one MRE a day), most of the events were team building exercises like take these planks and build a bridge. I looked up the guy who ran this camp and he claims to be a former stock broker turn cop and got the idea for the camp due to seeing the police cadets lacking in confidence. I'm a cop too and while the guys at my department's academy also think the cadets are coming in too soft, they probably look at this Man of War thing and think "you got to be kidding me!"
I can almost guarantee all the “instructors” were either never in the military or were but never did anything of merit so they wanna feel tough by acting like a drill sergeant to a few randos
As a former Marine who still hits the gym 5 days a week, I'd like to put these "alpha males" in their place. You wanna treat weak bodies/minded fools like dirt? Does that make you feel good? Well I would like to do the same to them, and watch their fragile egos shatter as the tears stream down their face. Damnit
@@Getsomefit123 why would I do that? What would I gain from it, exactly? I am likely in better physical shape than most all of the instructors, and have no need of "tuning" my mentals. If it seems fun to you, go for it. If I want fun like that, I will go mountain climbing, paintballing, lift, or train on the mat.
@@cd5433 What makes me different? I'll make it simple for you. I don't want to do it to people who are clueless and looking for a way to better themselves but are confused and lost. I wouldn't be doing it to make me feel like an alpha superior being. I would be doing it to the people who are profiting off of the misery/confusion of others to show them just how shitty they are, to make them feel the way these people do, to let them know they aren't the big bosses they believe themselves to be. Pretty sad I gotta explain that to you.
@@thebystander1636 your still getting off on putting people down. Thinking your above them . Pretty sad you don't see that your doing the exact same thing
I get the need for rights of passage…when you’re a teenager. This, though, is just sad! These guys would be better served enrolling in a gym, maybe hiking on weekends, and definitely therapy!
Wanna be rich? Find a common insecurity that people have, and then exploit the sh*t out of it.
congratz, you just found out what andrew tate's war room is all about
But can you turn it in a NFT?
@@Jm-ki4su I think Andrew Tate is a troll
Youve cracked it. Thats why soaps made for hair nourishment have drying chemicals. Thats why makeup is so expensive
@@Chrisisplays the AlphaMan NFT will be the ultimate grift 😂
I paid $4,000 to be to part of an elite alpha male training course. Every morning I dip my junk in boiling water, scream at the mirror for 20 minutes, and insult women as they pass me on the street. And I gotta say my blood pressure has increased 69%
Bro u made me laugh so hard holy shit
@@nikg6305you think I'm joking? I'm as serious as a clown.
🤣🤣🤣
@@davidsolimene5367 I was in my college library and I burst out laughing man 😂
Only $4000? I mean compared to this that's a steal.
I mean.....they could've easily signed up to a MMA gym and gotten the same thing.....at a cheaper price and you aren't joining a cult
That’s what I was thinking, the strongest and most meaningful friendships that I’ve ever formed is with the guy’s at the MMA gym I trained out of.
You can't get this done in 1 wk. Train Bjj. Work for it for 5 yrs to get purple belt. 10 yrs to get brown or black. And not get shown on a video doing it.
@@doktor3196 I think what he means is they could just join an MMA Or Jiu-Jitsu gym to get that comradery , and feeling of brotherhood. And financially it would be cheaper and healthier for them both physically and psychologically. And at least with a Jiu-Jitsu gym, if you end up in a video on RUclips you’re less likely to look as desperate as some of these guy’s
@@robertnguyen9493 Precisely. And the fight skills acquired over consistent period of time is real commitment then a 1 wk boot camp. Plus as someone who has been injured a few times and had trouble functioning at work during rehab, getting hurt over this is not worth the risk of livelihood. I have a disability insurance and if the company knew i did something like this and came knocking for the benefit, I'd be thrown out.
@@doktor3196 a 1 week boot camp, where at the end you have the delusion of thinking that you’ve “changed” and that now you’re a “alpha male” vs a lifetime of training, developing skills, fitness and lessons that you can pass on to your children and form a stronger connection with them. A lifetime of work, where you are consistently evolving and improving as a person vs 1 week of torture under the guise of “it will change your life”people will chose the torture cause it’s a quick fix. Which is really sad!
Also, I understand about being on disability, you have my empathy.
These guys paid for a homosexual dominatrix experience and I won't be convinced otherwise
Yes the problem is that to be an alpha male you need the opposite of this. Instead of paying for boot camp you must pay escort girls to spend a week with you in a hotel room. They constantly agree with you, compliment you, make sex tapes with you, role play that you are the chosen one who will lead humanity to a bright future. The alpha male confidence boost from that will last at least a year.
😂
@@DruNarayan
wtf?!😂
As a former Marine who went through boot camp and ITB, this is wack lol. Just join the military if you want the actual experience, plus you’ll earn benefits if you make it through and it looks great on resume
That's what I'm sayin, they not even getting paid to do all of this. 🤡
Brother!
I love how they named it after the Crucible in basic training at Camp Pendleton
Facts. At least we got paid for our shit, rah 🥴🤣✊🏾
Yup, do 4 years then come talk 2 me. 🤣🤣🤣
Men will do literally anything except go to therapy.
This comment is so underrated 🤣🤣🤣
@@LarvaS-hj1eq Abso-fucking-lutely.
Lmao
I’m not revealing my deepest emotions and weaknesses to some mere social worker.
@@BuffaloNickel9 My therapist told me that getting too curious and looking at the profiles of weird fuckups in RUclips comments isn't worth it, but I just keep doing it out of morbid curiosity and it turns out that the ridiculous, one-sided, idealized, self-congratulatory stories told by people who break down their entire self to 'guns' are probably exactly the same as my therapist.
Made up.
heres an idea for an actual "how to be a man" bootcamp.
its just a course containing:
basics on car, electronics and home repair, how to do your own taxes, basic home cooking, a short break to discuss mental health and finding genuine contentment in your life and finally no cringy larping necessary
Honestly, this is pretty good. Back in my brief period in the PUA/Redpill circles, I hated the idea of a bootcamp due to the high price and short duration of training. Anything that can be fixed in a weekend isn't worth thousands of dollars, and anything that would warrant thousands of dollars in training is going to take minimum of three months to fix. If I were to do a bootcamp, it'd be a minimum of six months, with weekly training. I'd throw in fashion, fitness, and probably how to find your interests and development of healthy relationships with men and women. Therapy will definitely be a thing. I'd have actual professionals giving advice.
That's a course for being a human being, basics on car and electronics would be pretty cool for women too, specially if they live alone.
@@bluester7177 no, get a husband
@@HammadiLobbongel Not everyone wants to ge married and also not everyone is straight and even the people who are married and are straight, it's cool to not be dependent, specially because people travel, they have other commitments like work, so my point remain, OP idea would be good for everyone.
I'll add to that
Have your opinion, don’t adjust your opinion to the audience
Don’t take advantage of people even if you could
Don’t lie in order to have an advantage
Own up to your mistakes even if you could shift the blame on some poor bastard
The irony these men want to be alpha and go through military training but don’t actually want to be soldiers since they could die
They want all of the adoration and valor but none of the consequences or responsibility.
@@BigTylt and you served?
@@Getsomefit123 Even if they didn't, their statement is correct.
@@Saturnia2014 *he
@@bryanadkins2944 did you just assume their gender?
I love how they fetishize military training considering how a lot of ex-military I know are either terrible people, horribly maladjusted, undergoing physical damage way too soon, depressed, lonely, etc.
Yes military training makes everyone who participates broken for life… lmao what a mindset
@@FNESSE I’m sorry. I’m from the time period where “a lot” didn’t mean “all.” I’m not into the lingo nowadays.
When you enlist you get three complimentary mental illnesses, free of charge! PTSD and Anxiety are always included, but the last one is up to random chance, so fun!
That's what happens when you go to war, breaks a man.
@@eta_carithebrightlord3396 Absolutely. It’s not exclusively wartime either. Many facets of military life and training can screw with the life of members both physically and mentally. We are often showed glorified results through the military’s success stories….but there’s an underbelly of men and women coming out either hating life, having bad knees, having bad backs, dealing with social isolation, etc.
My entire life has been spent around or with veterans of varying shapes and sizes. The military is not an alpha breeding machine. This boot camp simulation is bogey baloney and usually just an excuse for people who failed to get the point of the DI/ DS/ MTI to be raging dickwads to insecure people for no good reason…. And I guess get paid for it now.
The patriotism, the paternalism, the shaming, all for guys who just needed dads growing up to wrestle with and play with. So sad.
The worst part is, I think, some of them HAD dads, but they were too emotionally distant for it to matter. Like, some men are just so scared of being called some variation of "gay" or "feminine" they'd rather not bound with their kids at all.
To be fair, you have no idea the history of any of these guys.
For all you know some are just ex military and masochistic and loved bootcamp.
Yeah this stuff is cringe, but the amount of weird fetishes out there. The strong emotions it elicits from viewers is more telling about the viewer.,
I’m honestly more interested in knowing your relationship with your father and other men in your life.
@@elfodelputoinfiernoa softer answer is that they feel emasculated from society and this is a coping mechanism.
Now for why they do it varies from person to person.
On a unrelated note…I can do this for a living. I’m young and met plenty of dudes that want to have a bromance😂.
Almost like an idol, “correct me on having a manly handshake and all” .
But it’s just sad and I don’t know how to help.
@@elfodelputoinfiernoas a man raised by a dad who I can count the number of times we have hugged on my hands, you are no idea how correct you are with your comment.
Imagine you're a pregnant woman and your husband drops $6,700 to go to Man Camp when you're about to give birth
Manchild right there
absolute alpha move...that will teach her
"Is it too late to abort this thing?"
Wow! Talk about being a dead beat dad!
I would be a divorced woman soon after.
We're honing their skills so they can go back to society and work 9-5 😂
Pure gold
LMAOO
Outstanding comment!!! That’s what I was thinking!!!
These guys are the toughest Home Depot assistant managers you'll ever meet.
What do you mean screaming at your coworkers and calling them b*tches won't get you promoted? 🤬🤬
These dudes don't need to be "Alpha males", they need some serious help and a hug
Girls be poopin, boys be needing therapy
Some of these dudes need a nice long cry and some advice is all
sounds beta to me
In todays society every man between 15- 40 needs a military discipline because they became crying pus….
Gay
It’s like joining the military but without any responsibility, consistency and dedication; completely sidestepping what being a man is really about.
ironically youre doing the same thing the he accuses these "Alpha men" of. Youre just associating stereotypical "male values" with "being a man". "Honor" "responsibility" "duty" stuff liek that.
Yeah dude you totally missed the point. Hilarious.
It also excludes such perks as
Travelling the world work all expenses paid
College tuition being paid for
Unrestricted access to firearms in virtually any caliber
Potential for the massacre of unarmed civilians of any age and gender, with excessive firepower, with no repercussions
these dudes would benefit way more from simply joining a combat sport gym, seeing a therapist, & spending more time with their families, they’d find what they’re searching for lol
All of em work except therapist.
@@sulaimanfaisal5263 I agree, for some though therapy seems to help
@@sulaimanfaisal5263imagine being so scared of literally talking lol
Getting 6K out of each is a pretty good con though, literally milking their insecurities
That was the “initial” payment too.
Yup and 11 people joined. So whoever was running it got instant 73.7k!
If they were being literally milked it would be a much better deal js
@umar b you make a good point.
@umar b except it shouldnt be 6000 fucking dollars and the instructor should be someone who actually has bootcamp experience not some dude you put on a pedestal because he called himself an alpha male. There are so many cheaper options like taking a martial arts class or just fucking enrolling in the military (which you can get paid for) but these people are so insecure they’d rather shill 6000 for a “high value alpha male” to scream at them lmao. It deserves to be clowned
Their training regime looks like they took it from a bunch of 80's military movies and mashed it together.....horribly.
Their main source was G.I. Jane.
@@vic06 I made a comment referencing GI Jane and am glad someone else saw the similarities
@@vic06 Comedy genius.
*MASHed* it together lol
@@vic06 go hide somewhere, here comes will smith
I was a military bootcamp instructor. This is what happens when big egos don't make the cut, so they play pretend after the navy seals training footage on youtube. My god what a cringe fest.
Edit: for everyone claiming Im making shit up - mil instructor from germany. I don't know what specific terms you use. I specifically didn't use "drill instructor" because they carry the rank of at least a seargeant, I don't
gravy seal vibes here
@@Jm-ki4su oh man I'm gonna start referring to these type of events as the gravy seals. let's see if it picks up
Where were you an instructor at?
@@armeniimisthios Wonderland ig
I agree it's like people who call themselves cool when they not
What makes a man a man is his consistency and character. Served in the Army’s infantry for 6 years. I’ve realized there is no Alpha or Beta (that’s just dude astrology) it’s all about how you react when when the bullets fly
Dude astrology? I never heard that. Genius.
There is way more than just "when the bullets fly." There are so many rats, snakes, and brown nosers in the military. Let alone, all the weak individuals that joined infantry to "be" something they're not. Not saying you're that, but man... The amount of shitty people I've met was astonishing. Dudes that were absolute liabilities, fakes, etc. Met some of the best people, too. But really, the Military means nothing as a title. They're all still the same people they most likely came in as, but are now just wearing a uniform. This is how "BroVets" became a thing. They didn't peak in highschool, so they peaked in their 4 year contract. LMFAO!
And when did bullets fly, buddy? When you had shooting practice on targets that don't move? Modern soldiers are the biggest larpers in the world 🤡🤡🤡
Amen!
It'd be cool to grab a beer with you and get your take on this. I agree, but having not done any military service I don't have that sort of experience.
Those men should just bond together and play video games, sports etc. It'll be more fun and enjoyable and save that money in the process.
My buddy signed me up for this the other week. They would not stop spamming me. When I told them to stop contacting me the guy told me to get my life together, while I’m at work. Told him to stop cosplaying soldier and your a weirdo. It did the trick
Sounds like you hit the nail on the head. F.
W
Not the best buddy if they sign you up for something you didn't want. Glad you said no (also I suppose there's some schadenfreude fun in imagine him panicking at all the money he spent going down the drain)
@@emilystewart6175 haha he did it as a joke to mess with me
😅😅😅😅😅😅
These dudes must have had an easy life. I am 61 and most of my life as a man has almost killed me. You cannot prep for the invisible enemy and the sneak attacks. Lucky them to have the money to pay for this humiliation ritual.
You can never evade death a 100% of the time during war, but you can reduce the chances of being killed if you train and prepare a certain way.
😭 humiliation ritual..
Sean, admit it you’re a whimp
@@mikehawk4856
Mike, admit you have a humiliation fetish
@@Ordnas95 I admit it
I haven’t laughed this hard in ages. This is the most down bad thing I’ve ever witnessed. I’m comfortable with the way I am as a man. I don’t need no fake military scam service to determine my manhood.
Cope
@@andrewbergquist7900 nothing wrong with training like the military without the moral issues with enlisting in an imperial band of cowards only declaring war on poor countries and often loosing too.
@@Ok-gd3jl this guy is insecure
@@billnyethescienceguy4502 don't forget to say the other magic word "iNcEL"
True... you just need to workout in general.
The worst of it to me (aside from obviously the whole aLpHa thing) is that it's a futile endeavor as they're not gaining any skills or physical improvement. Those things require consistent training, you're not going to become great at survival from carrying a log in the mud one night and you're not going to be physically fit from a week of grueling exercise. You're just going to be very sore.
The possible trauma from all the psychological abuse, however, both before and during the bootcamp, WILL stay with them. What a horrible scam all around.
Here's what the military taught me that's more important than all the meathead warrior stuff: problem solve the situation in front of you. If you don't know how to do something, read the instructions, find someone who has done it, or experiment/innovate. I had some insecurities like this heading in but that was the biggest thing that changed for me, learning how to be effective. You don't have to join the military to do that.
The psychedelic drug dmt showed me that.
Imagine paying to be hazed. Literally can do it for free by signing a piece of paper and you get a potential career out of it.
Thank you. If you are good at something, never do it for free (or worse, having to pay to do it).
Not at 45 yrs old though. This is boot camp for the board room cucks.
Difference is for hell week the seals had years of daily physical training. The Crucible just takes Phil from accounting and dunks him into the Atlantic at 3am
Well, you have Tau Kappa Epsilon, Kappa Alpha, Beta Sigma, Alpha Phi Alpha, and so on. I think these dudes want to be part of a fraternity so bad.
@@773fishing2 exactly, the army has actual physical and mental expectations for the people they train. These guys are just embarrassing themselves.
I was getting paid when I went through basic training.
Don't be an "alpha male". Just be a good man. Simple
One easy way to make money out of people is to find a regular insecurity and exploit it. Thats why we have shampoo for bald people, weight Lost pills, make up and high heels.
Agreed
Well since there's no such thing as an "alpha male" you couldn't be one no matter how hard you tried
@Bart Zumba agree. I wanna exploit other peoples insecurities for profit. It’s not illegal.
Did we learn nothing from arthur?
I can’t believe that one guy went to this camp the week of his child’s birth. It’s not a real bootcamp man there was no reason to be there the week your child was to be born. You want to be a better man how about start by being present for the birth of child.... Phil if you ever start a bootcamp/cult I was in the real military and would be one of your drill instructors if you need one lol
Would playing call of duty in college qualify me to join?
You think that guy is really getting laid? 😂
@@T..C..M Oof
Makes me appreciate my dad more. Flew back to to our home country before my birth and lost his job in the process.
@@T..C..M 😂
feels like the whole point of torturing them is that the coach can finally feel superior to someone for the first time in his life
These dudes running the camp are the dudes from the military who got kicked out for abusing their authority and having no people skills.
Whenever I start feeling bad about my many, many, many inadecuacies and defects, at least now I can think "well, I didn't drop 7k to be yelled at by a stranger at larp camp, so I have that going for me".
It’s not our struggles or our inadequacies that define us
It’s what we do with them that does
fun fact you can get yelled at by a stranger at larp camp for much cheaper than this! and also real larp is like. way more fun
@@poisonmantis4191 It's especially fun and even physically beneficial if it's with medieval groups that work with real armor and weapons. There probably isn't any better simultaneous work-out and stress reliever than getting to wrestle, bash, and kick guys who are in full steel armor, especially since it's both super safe *and* says "go ahead, punch that guy all you want".
@@norrecvizharan1177 once i broke my toe running down a hill with a sword that was at least half a foot taller than me. best day of my life
@@poisonmantis4191 Randomly reminded me of a time I was out towing someone a good 100 miles or so out, and they were talking about how they were an assistant medic at a crazy hardcore renaissance faire, which evidently had barrels of rum that they made from scratch, and some crazy stories of people being real goofy or stupid while in full gear (one of which being that a drunk dude accidentally brought in a sharp sword and cut himself badly in the leg, but didn't realize it, so everyone else had to hold him down so he wouldn't bleed out while the more official medics arrived.) I'm sure that most faires don't have homemade rum, but either way they sure do sound really cool to visit.
As a Navy a recruiter, these are the guys that say “I tried to join, but my recruiter fucked me over” when in reality they were just too scared to pull the trigger. They do this cause it’s the closest thing 😂😂
army here and yes 100%, lol they sometimes try to pull off the vetbro look like dude you look like a douchebag🤣
As a former Marine these are the dudes who gave some bullshit about I couldnt make it through boot cause id straight up punch my DIs. Jesus man i have more respect for airsoft players least they know they are Larping.
I was ur 69th like
The closest thing....minus the 99% if military lifestyle that goes alongside the PT and shouting.
@@Giraves my hero ❤️
I’m in the military and Jocko said it best about civilian physical encounters, your best tool is your legs. Run, it’s not worth it unless you’re protecting family and they are in danger
Absolute truth.
You said it yourself brother, what if my mom or wife is in danger?
@@bloodnivel70 The answer to all our problems is GUN
And when the dude who’s built like if a silverback gorilla fucked a mountaintop says go, ya go
That or of course the drone your piloting.
"Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one." - Marcus Aurelius
Epitome of vain philosophy. From the guy who had his wife take a bath in the blood of the man she cheated on him with.
Join military and get paid, or pay to join this ? 🤔 Tough call
Also the irony that following orders is not exactly Alpha is not lost on me
Good point 🤣🤣🤣
Well at least you don't get killed in a war for oil in this clown show.
@@Shadow25720Please avoid commenting again.
@@FRANK_AZAR Why? Because you can't stand the truth?
@@Shadow25720 Username and pfp checks out.
Getting honed by strange men at night doesn’t sound alpha. This definitely seems like a class for dudes who still like dressing up and playing “army”
ALPHA LARP
I woulda thought this was badass when I was 12
Everyone likes larping for Empire and Freedom.
You’re a larpaphobe
Imagine realizing you spent your hard-earned money to be lost in the woods with a bunch of lost ass middle-aged white guys with an identity crisis and mortgage getting yelled at by another set of guys with daddy issues
Sounds like the voter base for Donald Trump. Whoops! Sorry! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let's make it about the race
@@ugnius2707 Bruh did you watch the video? They all white lmao
They can't even do a push up lmmaaooo
@@ugnius2707 i mean i dont see a black guy there
I wonder whyyy
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I honestly feel sorry for these guys 😂. It just shows that we really need more healthy masculine figures in society even more.....so they don't go to bullshit like this LMAO 😂😂
Heavy emphasis on healthy
@@SEAZNDragon 100%, these dudes need Jesus Christ
yupppp
I felt really bad when the Alpha Male kicked all that sand in the aspirant dude's head... for 6700 dollars... not because his head was full of sand but because that cost him money... they could spend it instead on something really heroic like helping poor children get their school lunch or build a new well somewhere in the Third World so people have access to clean water...
To fix emasculation🤷♂️. That’s their issue. It’s like a retreat for men.
This hurts my heart. As a mother of three sons, I just see their inner boys. And they need hugs. This is really sad.
I hope your children grow up to be good people. God bless :)
@@jet_899, thank you. I do too. I’m trying to do all I can to help them get there. 💕
Raise them to be good people and they won't end up there. Hope for the best
@@memoryofsalem4474 , that’s the plan. Trying my absolute best. 💕
@@memoryofsalem4474lmao are you really saying the people that go to these aren’t “good” people?
Honestly I'm so glad I discovered rock climbing when I started to get insecure about my masculinity and stuff. I ended up in a much healthier community while bonding with other guys ! It was great ! Rock climbing is great !
That i understand but not this 💀 6.7k bro for this program
There's nothing less "alpha" than needing external validation of your manhood from some wannabe military hacks.
I want a sigma male Boot Camp, but a true sigma doesn’t need a Boot Camp :(
sugma balls camp
The funny thing is, they are behaving and learning to act like „beta males“, if we stay in that vocabulary, so it’s basically a beta male bootcamp
that's your own fault for not being on the grindset, beta
@@mastervaderm16 have to watch more Tom Shelby Shorts #SigmaRule235 „Only fear your shadow“ #grindset
well anyone who needs an alpha boot camp is clearly not an alpha and never will be
Imagine a reality show were a real marine goes under cover and does one of these programs to tell us if the training is useful for anything
Useful for what? Change nappies and give feet massage? Cuz these guys are there to become better dads and husbands you know...
I have this idea for a short film of a legit marine going to these camp and just mopping the floor with these posers.
I went to an MMA camp for boys in high school. Don't like making assumptions but I'm willing to bet that taught me more valuable stuff than you know, how to raise your blood pressure.
Seriously though. If you wanna build confidence doing some kind of physical discipline is a great start. Not only are you more confident in your body, but you're surrounded by people who want you to be the best version of you.
Exactly and I bet it didn't cost extortionate amounts
"We want to help you mentally and physically. To create a brotherhood to help you to be motivated. To be the best man you can be"
10 seconds later....
"You are a piece of shit man! You're useless and a failure! You'll never make it!"
I bet you anything that the wives that notice a positive change only see it because their Husbands are realizing how good they have it. That t's better to have a kind, warm wife than having a guy on a ego trip, taking their money and yelling at them and putting them down.
I was in the Army and spent my 22nd birthday invading Iraq. This shit mocks the service of thousands of soldiers and makes me sick. If you really want this experience, just join the reserves or National Guard.
Mock soldiers is funny, this is still dumb though. Thank you for your chungus
So basically stolen Valor.
Idk about mocking but it's kinda stupid
Army guy here. Watching this shit is just pathetic and sad.
I don’t think it’s mocking service so much as just a bunch of dudes who saw GORUCK and noticed you don’t need to be special forces cadre to run these camps and charge out of the ass. It’s a good laugh watching these guys try so hard to impersonate selection yet miss the point entirely. They didn’t even get log PT right, gonna break some poor guys neck trying to be BUD/S instructors (seriously though, there are specific standards to make sure people don’t fucking die doing this stuff, they’re gonna kill someone.)
I actually feel sorry for those dudes. It will be a while before they have realised how stupid and CRINGEY the whole thing was, let alone the scam element of this shady 'enterprise'.
I don't feel bad because these are the dudes who probably yell at grocery store clerks, and then whine on MRA subreddits because they're that miserable.
The crazy thing is, a few years ago when I was at very low place in my life, I absolutely would have fallen for this kinda “band of brothers” type of thing hahah
Takes balls to admit it, respect.
I’m glad you’re in a better place Squirtle
Happens to the best of us. Especially in our late teens early 20s. A lot easier for us too fall for this shit. Or pyramid schemes. Things like NFTs scams and all that trash
To be honest the fact 5hat you would have enjoyed the camaraderie is absolutely fine but can be found in legitimate places and not magic man camp
Same here. Times when I was quite low I was seeking in this apha beta shit my own place.
The irony of learning to be an alpha by being submissive and obedient is not lost on me.
A masterclass in exploiting the classic midlife crisis.
Fragile Masculinity: The Movie
@XTHE12THMONKEYX yes there is. you can see it in this video
'men bad'
@@alexjohnson9798yeah some dudes are bad at maning.
Lmaaaaoooo
I feel like these guys focus too much on being “high value” rather than just being an asset in general to the people around them. And I don’t mean that in a sigma male power trip, I think we can all agree it’s better to be someone who's in the position to be able to help others vs. the person who needs to be helped all the time. While there’s nothing wrong with needing help the world is a better place if more people aim to be assets rather than liabilities. But don’t go and pay for a week at man camp, just do your adult homework like laundry, saving more money than you spend on stupid shit, and calling the people you love to tell them you care about them. That’s just being a competent adult no need to put that on a pedestal
Exactly.
^ this comment fucks ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜)
Asset is 100 percent correct whether its your personal relationships or your job. If you're an asset people are going to want to be around you and jobs are going to do everything they can to keep you.
These guys hurt to watch. These grown adult men are in such a confused headspace that they think going through this "crucible" will improve them in anyway. Geez. Take a vacation and relax like an adult.
They had to use their vacation time for this...
The men that didn't give up? They were probably told there were no refunds.
Yeah, I agree these men have a need for validation and a need for play. Yet if they joined a sports team with good friends or get a productive hobby, it would do them much better than paying for some fight club-esque bootcamp to make some leeches rich off of their identity crises'. Maybe they're jerks in their day to day life, but I can't help but feel bad for them anyway. Our neuroses often lead us to seek irrational ways to feel validated :(
Don’t be an “alpha” male. Be a strong man.
Being alpha is just trying to be dominating to feed your ego.
Being strong is building values and moral codes that strengthen you and improves the lives of those around you.
Especially considering "alpha" and "beta" isn't even a real concept. It was based on a bullshit study that's been discredited. In real life there's no such thing as "alpha" "beta" or fuckin "sigma" males, whatever else they fuckin come up with. Doesn't exist.
But... but... but...
If it ain't epic, it ain't right! It must be over the top because I need validation!
@@snes09 I don’t necessarily agree with that. A study being discredited doesn’t disprove a social and dominance hierarchy where men place their social value on that ladder.
Whether a study is real or not, it’s clear the majority of men (who are competitive and disagreeable) clearly value moving up in terms of social and dominant value.
This is something even ingrained into our genetics as our nervous system releases more serotonin and is less prone to negative feelings the higher up men move in the dominance hierarchy.
Having strong moral values and codes and moving up the social ladder tend to go hand in hand.
@@thog3940 Valuing "moving up the social ladder" is a misunderstanding. In reality, it's quite literally just a sense of achievement which fundamentally has nothing to do with social hierarchy. Rather, social hierarchy plays into the sense of achievement not the other way around. If you replaced the concept of valuing moving up with social ladder with literally anything that someone values achieving they will literally have the same emotional impact. This misunderstanding is the reason pseudoscientific ideas like being alpha or beta exists.
@@Azgorth02 I fully disagree. Competing for dominance in a hierarchy is something we've proven to be hardwired into men. Achieving something simply doesn't compare to competing for the next rung above on the ladder. Moving up feels great and your nervous system even rewards you for the behavior.
Achievements are nice and a great thing to have, but they don't necessarily explain the need in disagreeable men to compete for more.
I can only imagine a real navy seal or basically anyone who was in the actual military laughing their ass off with this shit
A man's maturity: that is to have rediscovered the seriousness he possessed as a child at play -Nietzsche
They're literally dollar-store military. Why does someone want to pay for a thing that you can get for free, get better quality and on top of that you'll be paid?
Either you spend 6000 dollars to go through the "Crucible" or you can find some buddies and play DND for 1% of that price or less-- the combined stress of preparing to DM and the paranoia-induced stress of being a PC together are enough to warrant an entire campaign as a true Crucible to prepare for everyday life, you can handle anything once you've faced down the demon inside you that tries to convince you that literally every single NPC is trying to betray you.
On a side note, their website literally just slapped in some of the art from Mount and Blade: Warband, my sides hurt now
Phil’s right, if u wanna do this diff join the military so u can at least contribute to something. Plus joining the military doesn’t cost $6700
Instead it will cost you at least 4 years and possibly your life
The funny part is that under this moronic philosophy, joining the military and failing to come out of it as General Big Dick at the top of the totem pole should be the greatest of sins, for having willingly subordinated yourself as a bitch to the military hierarchy system and a whole bunch of other dudes. What's more beta than signing away four years of your life to be told what to do, even die, by other guys?
These fuckers worship everything military as if it makes you manly, instead of having been smashed into an obedient shape that doesn't really fit into any useful holes afterwards.
@@SaintDaisley bro you could’ve just said they turned you away at MEPS lmaoo
@@TheFunnyBone5 or the guy just doesn't like the military?
@@snes09 or hes a reprobate that never amounted to anything and doesn't know Jack
OK Phil I need you to watch liver king
Damn straight
Trenbolone sandwitch with a touch of liver
@@edwolf0082 trenbolone sandwich with some raw bull nuts*
OMG
Facts
I would love to know what excuse these guys gave their wives or girlfriends or whatever to go play boot camp with the fellas
Implying these guys actually have wives or girlfriends
OK, I just got to the part with the wives....Really hoping they're paid actors
😂😂
its a miracle they have couple, because they say arent "real man" and need this bullshit just to be alpha man, it make double miracle. I am sure, not woman would stand for man like themn.
I love how insecure middle-aged men will pay $1000s of dollars to join a glorified frat. Let alone LARPing as military people
5:55 That knife demonstration has disaster written all over it. Even the medieval manuscripts tells you to prioritize controlling the wrist and wrenching the arm so they cant go for another strike. Blocking/parrying should only be done if you have something solid protecting your hand, like a crossguard.
Edit: Plus someone competent with a knife isn't gonna slash, they stab.
If you were wondering “If they wanted an intensive manly-man training course, why didn’t they just join the Marines or the National Guard for free?” It’s because you can’t just ragequit those courses when it gets hard.
You'd be surprised...I just graduated US Army Infantry school and like 30 dudes just quit and got to go home like nothing happened
Yeah no you totally can lmao
@@BlueSkullFish it ain't like the old days where you get arrested
From my knowledge with how most militaries operate, most militaries if you want to quit you to do some form of paperwork and whatnot, but with the French Foreign Legion, they legit jail you if you want to quit because they see that as a threat of releasing private info and disrespect. Plus at this point, i'd rather join a mercenary group than a centralized countries military because of pay, benefits and flexibility much like the French Foreign Legion because what doesn't make sense is that will mercenary groups are deemed "illegal", the only reason why the Legion exists is because the U.N. greenlight the group because of "good standing" and "policy", whatever the fuck that means.... Plus since the U.N. doesn't like mercenary groups a whole lot even though they admitted in the past they're more successful with mission and handling like the Sierra Leone Civil War (2000) that many former military soldiers turned legit mercenaries fought for.
@@lastpatriot7506 which is good. Everyone should quit the military. It’s not cool to be government property, no matter what kind of toys they let you play with.
Those dudes that wear all that military gear, we call them geardos.
$6,700 for this week retreat... I'd rather join the military on a 3 year contract. That way I can actually say I did something without being embarrassed compared to doing that crap.
This is definitely the real deal. Everyone who goes through this camp passes delta force selection.
Delta farce*
*omega
That’s what I’m saying. Why be a SEAL when you can do this
Beta force*
"Man Of War... I'm talking about Raffa Kandi, the leader of what we call The Crucible". Holy fuck the new Tom Clancy novel sounds fire.
I’ll be honest I think getting a bunch of people together to work out and push each other is one thing. To make others pay money for a sense of brotherhood has always been trouble. Kinda like frats and sororities
My insecurities got me manipulated into a frat. Can confirm.
Last season of "You" had a hillarious subplot where Joe is expected to go into one of those "camps" that was actually a camping trip with bunch of dudes, and a local "alpha" gives them all these challenges and shit. ironically most of them were suburban tech bros with trophy wives. Laughed my ass off at that episode.
The entire point of military training is to yes gain physical strength but the mental toughness and stress resistance is the main point. The most successful people in the world have high tolerances to high stress. But still this fake military camp was pretty hilarious.
As much as it is tolerance to stress it’s also tolerance for dumb shit. Like when normal people would get impatient and be like “wtf are we doing here??” No. You stand in that chow line for another hr for your dried out chicken and go back to polishing brass.
@@TylerWardhaha this is a valuable skill we should all be taught growing up. How to cope with inconvenience
You can get that same mental training joining a martial art club like muay thai, wrestling etc. They push you like crazy while still being a proper environment and costs you way less than some stupid shit like this. Training and conditioning for wrestling was one of the most brutal things I've been thru and it only cost about 200 bucks for the season lol
these dudes are absolute lunatics for PAYING to go thru that. I spent 4 years in the Marines and i wouldnt ever do that stuff without getting paid or actually do that to serve your country
This instructor is most likely an SF washout that's out here trying to validate his own shortcomings. One look at him and you can see that he's as soft as bread dough.
@@ekl2947eah i highly doubt any of these guys were military and no where near SF. SF guys don't carry themselves like that, at least in general. (There's always one asshole, even in SF)
I'm just a beta, but imagine when these Alphas find out that sigmas don't participate in brotherhoods.
LOL
ya know, maybe it's because I'm a woman and I don't really get it so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I actually think this is very cute in a weird way. Some bros mud wrestling and crying together, getting wee friendship rings, if the verbal prompting wasn't so abusive I'd say its damn near wholesome. I mean it's super silly in the same way that women's yoga retreats are silly, but silly isn't always bad. I'm conflicted because someone could obviously get really hurt and the way they frame it as "you leave = you're a failure" is really shitty. But if these guys are lacking in a sense of purpose and connection with other men, hey, let em roll around in the dirt together. I'm sure they feel accomplished afterwards, like anyone does when they complete a real challenge. It absolutely doesn't have to be this, you could just tackle a series of increasingly difficult hiking trails or something, but man camp is cute. Cry in the mud if ya need to, fellas.
I should also point out that I say this while nodding and laughing along with Phil, it is hilarious to watch. It's just that in conjunction with the amusement, my other main reaction is "aw bless them, go ahead if it works ya boys."
You make a good point, the problem is it doesn't necessarily addres the reasons these men are there, costs loads of money and mimics military training without then being part of the military...ultimately it is mimicking something designed to make soldiers without making soldiers. At best it will give the more timid members a sense of achievement at worst it will con people out of the down payment on a house
@@RealElongatedMuskrat I second what ben said, you do make a good point. I think the primary issue is that these men don't know/think this activity is silly. I think it's healthy to do silly things as long as you realize what's going on. However I feel as though these men are taking this too seriously, hence the reason they're able to be scammed out of thousands of dollars in order to be hazed. Also consider the type of man who would sign up for this, upon completing the camp, if they read your comment, would likely verbally abuse you and put you down since calling their activity "cute" would be a severe blow to their ego. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
The only counter argument is still the most important one: 6700USD admission fee for something they could be doing for free.
Its called joining a sunday league of a sport and making some buddies. Costs a lot less and is more fun.
This is crazy. I got paid ( not a lot) to do a way better more intense version of this.
But you got people paying thousands of dollars to do it?? Make it make sense🤦🏽♂️
This is technically ALPHA military training
@@william_159 You mean sigma
@@NeapolitanApe no I think he meant ligma
@@intermediate212 ligma male
@@NeapolitanApe ligma balls
When you cant join the navy seals so you join the navy sea lions instead, thinking you're going to fight on the front line against meninism and divorce court. but you just end joining a public humiliation fetishist men's camp in the woods.
I did a lot of those types of training while being in the Army, i was miserable and all i wanted to do is go back to my living area. But at least i got paid, not much but i did. Plus i learned something ....i guess. And these idiots are paying thousands for this type of shit? Dafuq!!!
For people who claimed "yeah man I didn't go into the military because I'd fight the drill sergeant if he got in my face"
Can you do a video on the decline of Elliot Hulse? I mean he was always a little cringe, but these days, it’s worse. He definitely has an “alpha male bootcamp”
You may have missed it: ruclips.net/video/_Lk-0_hMvno/видео.html
Someone just give these guys a hug and a therapist like Comon. I couldn't even laugh about this cause it really is depressing as shit
I know, right? This is incredibly sad.
I love how are they preparing for war. Are they like expecting to get physically attacked next to the office copier machine?
women dont get it. im not saying these guys are awesome but a women wouldnt get it
@@burritodog3634 Why don’t they or are you just spitting bs you can’t back up?
yes a nasty paper cut is coming
@@burritodog3634 I’m a man and a veteran… this shit is ridiculously stupid and lame.
It's okay we know you're jealous your gender and soyboy allies like phill can't understand this or achieve it.
Almost 7k to go into Shrek’s swamp and play GI Joe with a bunch of random dudes…seems legit.
So these “trainers” made $73’700 between the 4 of them or $18,425 each in less than a week, and all these wannabe alphas got was a ring….
Now keep in mind this was the third group assuming there were roughly the same number of people that signed up to the other two groups so 22 other people.
That means these guys walked away with $221,100 or $55,275 each.
Literally going into the Army would of actually been beneficial if the wanted this type of experience. You get the GI bill, free college, get fit, and even a pension.
When I was in the army if anyone asked “do you wanna quit?” My answer usually was “yes, but I won’t (insert rank here).” Gotta admit wanting to quit when your soaked wet, miserable and doing this kinda stuff is normal
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.
Anyone who unironically refers to themself as an ‘alpha male’ is definitely not an alpha male…
Also, judging by bro’s posture and facial expressions at 21:30, this camp doesn’t accomplish a damned thing for its participants.
Phil, thank you for trying to spell out to the idiots why these camps are not only stupid but problematic. Lord knows I was a little 15 year old Ben Shapiro troll (no genuine hate on him, but I was def brainwashed, he does his job well), but guys like yourself, James Linker, ObesetoBeast...etc definitely do more good than you know. Older brothers or guidance figures a lot of us never had.
Ben Shapiro is a doofus
@horriblepancake there’s literally nothing wrong with modern men lmao. you must be chronically online if those are the only types of men you see
Ben sounds smart, makes some sense, but overall he is in it for himself.
He sounds smart if you believe whatever you hear
Ayy I just discovered and started watching John (ObesetoBeast) recently, he seems like such a really genuine, nice fella with lots of great personal insight into health and exercise. I'm so glad I stumbled across his channel.
I'm. female Marine veteran (I know, I don't "count" because I'm a female - lol jk) but this looks like he literally just copying Marine bootcamp. So just... go join the Marines.... even if you hate it you get free college out of it. Except this dude has literally no rasp, no bite to his voice. All the female and male DIs we had sounded like raptors. This dude is just talking slightly louder. It's a bad Marine cosplay, that's what this is.
"It's about forging your warrior spirit!" Do you know how much more of a man these dudes would be for volunteering at a soup kitchen or animal rescue? It takes real heart, courage, and fortitude to be that kindness when the world is shit. Real strength is measured by how much weight you can carry for others.
The icing on the cake for me is the fact that this bootcamp takes place in an "undisclosed location" in the woods of Northern Florida, so this basically takes place in my back yard, lmao.
these are the dudes that come up to veterans and say "I almost joined the army so I'm basically a veteran myself"
Hearing "Crucible" brought back memories for me. In Marine Corps basic training there is a final three day event called the Crucible meant to be the final test for recruits. While the Marine Crucible has its share of endurance and physical tests (20 mile full pack ruck, one MRE a day), most of the events were team building exercises like take these planks and build a bridge.
I looked up the guy who ran this camp and he claims to be a former stock broker turn cop and got the idea for the camp due to seeing the police cadets lacking in confidence. I'm a cop too and while the guys at my department's academy also think the cadets are coming in too soft, they probably look at this Man of War thing and think "you got to be kidding me!"
Raah true words spoken Marine This program really will wake up that warrior ethos just try and see
@@Getsomefit123 If these guys are taking a week off to fly to a week long camp in Florida I doubt they are in jobs requiring them to be warriors.
I can almost guarantee all the “instructors” were either never in the military or were but never did anything of merit so they wanna feel tough by acting like a drill sergeant to a few randos
The saddestt part by far is that these instructors all think they're such badasses
As a former Marine who still hits the gym 5 days a week, I'd like to put these "alpha males" in their place. You wanna treat weak bodies/minded fools like dirt? Does that make you feel good? Well I would like to do the same to them, and watch their fragile egos shatter as the tears stream down their face. Damnit
you should try it a few Marines have made it and there are more military members joining
@@Getsomefit123 why would I do that? What would I gain from it, exactly? I am likely in better physical shape than most all of the instructors, and have no need of "tuning" my mentals. If it seems fun to you, go for it. If I want fun like that, I will go mountain climbing, paintballing, lift, or train on the mat.
Lol how does that make you any different from these people
@@cd5433 What makes me different? I'll make it simple for you. I don't want to do it to people who are clueless and looking for a way to better themselves but are confused and lost. I wouldn't be doing it to make me feel like an alpha superior being. I would be doing it to the people who are profiting off of the misery/confusion of others to show them just how shitty they are, to make them feel the way these people do, to let them know they aren't the big bosses they believe themselves to be.
Pretty sad I gotta explain that to you.
@@thebystander1636 your still getting off on putting people down. Thinking your above them .
Pretty sad you don't see that your doing the exact same thing
This really opened my eyes. I had no idea how hard you have to train to be a proper man
I love how people pay 6,7k per person for something that must've cost around 1k on the whole to put together. Not to mention how ridiculous it is.
I get the need for rights of passage…when you’re a teenager. This, though, is just sad! These guys would be better served enrolling in a gym, maybe hiking on weekends, and definitely therapy!
This boot amp reminds me of that famous prison experiment. Sadists making normal man feel less than.....