The Bluecoats - North vs South Review - RANT!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Review of The Bluecoats - North vs South on PC. This game is a remake of the 1989 classic North and South on the Amiga (itself based on Les Tuniques Blues), and just looking from the screenshots you might think its the same game with newer graphics. Which is exactly what I was expecting, however don't be fooled! The copied most of the original, but left out the best bits! This is NOT North & South...
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![Amiga 500 Longplay [153] North & South](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/X-XLxS0Pweo/mqdefault.jpg)
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Anyone else old enough to remember the awesome North & South on the Amiga?
Oh hell yeah man it's one of my favourites! Best game ever! Oh i just watched it... damn :(
Indeed I don't only remember it, I played the original game on my old Amiga 500 just a few month ago! Yes I have the old bird still in working order, more or less...
I was hyped when I saw the thumbnail, and then my reflection of the new is pretty much the same as yours.
I wish I'd read some reviews before plunging in and buying it, but I was so hyped to play the old classic again!
played this endlessly on the Atari ST and you are right it was better in the old game. In fact I still have the game and the ST collecting dust. Might have to break it out and power it up for a trip down memory lane.
Do it!
Ahh, I remember that train/fort sections were insanely difficult on the Amiga version. Still, it was a great little title - I still have that catchy theme music stuck in my head.
Someone else that actually owned an Amiga computer. I was not the only one.
I had A500 then an A600 and dad had an A1200 lol and mountains of copied disks 😂
"never meet your childhood heroes"
I wish I would listen to that advice, coz nostalgia always takes the better of me
I still have my Amiga 500 with expanded RAM (1 MB) down in the basement. One of the games stored with it is "North & South"
Do you wanna buy the C64 I have in the garage? It comes with a casette player and a couple hundred tapes with excellent games on them? :oD
Hans Hedén You still have one of the best, if not the best, gaming machine that ever existed... and there are a lot of people, specially from the new generation, that have no idea about that... we are talking about a machine 5 times superior to its direct competitor. Cheers and congrats for still having a masterpiece!
Thanks. You just saved me some coin. I loved the original. Pity whoever made this didn't love the original as well.
Played (and still have the original) on my Amiga. LOVED it, one of my all time favourites.
Would I be right in assuming that you don't like it 😁
Sad. I liked this game from years gone by. Thanks for the review, save my pennies
Still a better balance job than Wargaming
I remember playing the original game with one of my friends in 2001 or 2002. I agree with you over the matter of the forts : conquering a fort is now pretty impossible, even in easy mode. The old version was much cooler and easier on this point. For all the rest, I think the remake is very good.
North & South, Many hours played, many years ago. 2 player vs mode was the best, you could (and would have to) walk into rocks or buildings to bunch up your troops, to get through enemy fire or cross a narrow bridge. There was always a rush to some states on the map to gain an early advantage. The fort assault and train robbery was always tough for the defender, but always fun.
We used to create 3-stack armies in 2 player mode then bunch up the men like you said and have mass infantry shoot-outs. Ah, the good old days!
Oh what a fun that was! I also loved that game...
Thank you for the nice memories this invoked.
BTW game being decided by a random toss of dice: tell my greetings to Wargaming's RNG!-)
In theory, I don't mind the new ideas for the Fort sections - the new Train sections seem a bit pointless, but they are both changed I assume to allow for point and click/touch controls for mobile gaming. The Fort shoot outs seem like they could have been a fun addition, if handled well.
I imagine it's point and click so it can be played on a mobile phone as well.They probably see more sales on that platform seeing the game is pretty dated and basic.
I thought it was funny that it's a game about the American Civil War and he went to go "buy men."
Wow! I remember this from back in the day. I'm now gonna spend the rest of the day feeling really old! My favourite game was Wings, loved the music.
> Why do that?
Because it's a mobile game, and you can't do those minigames on phones. They replaced them by something that makes sense for phones. The stuff that works for phones already all stayed. There's really zero mystery here.
Virginia, or as it is known to the locals, North Carolina
Stop sitting on the fence! Tell us if you like it!!!!! LOL
Saved me from a regretful buy
Just saw this trophy list added on PSN and am here just to see if this game had anything to do with the original (Yes I'm old). Great video, very nostalgic.
The original was the first game I owned on my Amiga. Ah, the good old days!
You're showing your age! I'd forgotten this existed. I'd want it if it were but a fraction as good as the original.
Looks like they updated the NES version. The game play looks exactly the same.
I still have that on the Atari ST. It was indeed a fantastic game and totally loved that. But this version they made for PS4 and Switch - as full-priced games - is some really unbelievable joke. I was so excited to pre-order that but ... no ... they can keep that.
A shame, it would have been great to enjoy the old days again.
Just wanted to say the new console version is much improved. They got rid of the point and click controls and the fort/train section are FPS shooter style now.
It’s good to hear from someone who loved the game as much as I. It’s disappointing they got rid of some of the things that made the game special, but I’ll probably still get it for Xbox if it goes on sale.
I think the Xbox version was remade (or another company took it on) because I have heard its changed since this review came out. So hopefully you will find it much improved :)
@@MarkGFL I’ll find out eventually. A little change may not be bad because on Nintendo I’d gotten to the point I could win all the years without losing a soldier. Not really realistic. Lol.
So for some reason in your channel's video library, this video's title is in Arabic or something I don't recognize, lol.
Are you browsing through a VPN? Its set to recognise your locality and use the appropriate language :D
@@MarkGFL I don't think so, I am in Canada. I think I have it set so that google cant access my location, so maybe that's it, lol.
Sieg thx for speaking up man really loved the vid
It's clearly designed for touchscreen controls :(
Commodore/Amiga days... Have you played Creatures? Lemmings (not those in WoT)? I heard somewhere there is also a modern version of "Secret of the Monkey Island". Have you played that?
Ivan Stepanovic loved Lemmings, especially 2 player! Still love Monkey Island, I have the new version on this pc 😀
I really enjoy this game - find it the most joyful game I have played.
So as everyone here got an Amiga Mini now?
My lad bought me one for my birthday 😀.
I can't believe what they did to this classic, I can play the original now tho 😎 and Moonstone!
Moonstone was awesome! I might to invest in an Amiga Mini now that you mention it :)
Jakiś czas temu grałem w odświeżoną wersję z aqmigi nie różniła się niczym po za grafiką, a teraz znaleźć tego nie mogę, może wiesz jak to się nazywa ?
Sorry I don't know. The original one was amazing!
I played the NES version a lot back in the day, it’s a great lil strategy game. I got the 2020 remake on my Mac and it’s pretty decent. Never have played the amiga version, I’ll have to try it out.
Ive learned since buying games like mk11 and ghostrunner on the switch to look at review videos before i buy and im so glad i didnt buy this, il stick with the amiga version
This remake is better on switch
I agree with you, my cousin gifted me the game on my 9th birthday and we both played it for hours on his and on my amiga. this remake is just utter crap :(
Better than nothing!
The new one on Xbox is remade so much better!
yes love that game still play it on pc with st emulator
It was the first game I played on a "proper" computer :)
Damn it, you make me feel old, played it on the commodore 128. Hope one day someone will make a remake of Storm across Europe.
Don’t mind different controls, but I prefer the old fort levels.
Yeah they used to be much more fun.
Thank you for saving me money
Did the original have 1v1 players?
Yes.
I thought the field battles were terrible. Until I saw the new train and fort raids. - Rarely have I seen such crap!
But I guess this version is not meant for us. For those who appreciate and love the original. But for the generation of smartphone & mobile game players. For people who come from Farmville & co.
I agree. I miss the old game!
Many of the things that you mentioned, and the battles, are entirely different and better on Xbox One.
Thats odd, I wonder why they made that version different.
I guess somewhere along the line, it all went south, as it were.
Don't recall this one, but used to love playing the Civil War version of American Conquest - was brilliant. All the other American Conquests are available, except that one damnit...
Edit: This game seems more of a mobile app to me. Just saying...
The new version on Xbox is way better
I've heard this is the case, but haven't had chance to try it myself.
Hmm is there Yet another remake done for the PS4? It looks even more different than this!? I loved the original back in the day, would have liked a remake made with som TLC
Apparently there has been another since this game was released. People say its better but I haven't checked it out myself.
You just saved me 30€. Thank you, Sir.
I am still not getting used to you not being Aging Jedi
This is currently 25 quid on the playstation store. Thanks for the warning.
Hell, thats damned expensive!
Where’s the iOS version?
I remember playing this when I was around 6/7 on my Dad's Atari ST... Was thinking of getting this version...
Apparently there is another version with the same name out for Xbox. Confusing eh? Its supposed to be better from what I have heard but I haven't played it. You can actually buy the original version for PC from GOG and at the moment its on sale for the grand old price of... 79p :D
@@MarkGFL oooooh! I need to get it
@@zach49490 Let me know if its as good as you remember from the old days :D
Mark you have let the whole of Yorkshire down spending £1.60 on that. you could have used that money to buy a new piece of string for your whippet lol.
I remember with the old amiga version, if you played 2 player, you had a 'cheat' in the battles if you used the joystick. You could mow down the whole enemy army with just the cavalry by holding the button and just strafing up and down the field until everything was dead. Totally disappointed with the battles in the remake.
I remember doing that. As long as you didn't get whopped by a stray cannonball you were sorted. I also remember odd occasional bugs where your back rank of infantry would kneel instead of the front and mow the front rank down with their volley! Also one where the cavalry seemed to sabre themselves and the whole 3 would fall off their horses when you pressed the attack button.
why are you playing as the bad guys though?
6:45 WAS THAT A SWEAR WORD MARK
I just saw a physical for sale and thus looked this up. The NES version is fun... Sad to hear this.
I wonder if originally it was a mobile game?
Could explain the the crap clicking gameplay
I didnt hear about the remake thx for not only for the video but also warning. if I havent seen this I would definetly buy as you do. I still have my old amiga +512kb ;) and the games besides North&South such as legendary pirates, silkworm, Dune, Monkey Island and so on
Efe Hamarat I loved all those games you just listed 😀
An era that the games were not all about graphics which points a game is "da best" nowadays infact there was nothing about graphics, pure quality and logic :)
Elurie, wot
Watching an Englishman playing a game about my country's civil war... This must be what the Germans feel like. XD
Sounds like a good game to avoid if they took out all the good bits. Thanks for the stuff, Mark of the GFL.
It was all ex British and European settlers anyway...
Oh you are fucking kidding me!!! Where did you find this???? I want!!!
This would make a good mobile game if that
I remember playing the original at a friend's house as a kid... really looked forward to this new version, until I saw this review... thanks for saving me one massive disappointment!
You're welcome! I'd been really looking forward to reliving some old memories of the game too and was hugely disappointed.
Note that the review is from 2018 and describes remake available then - the version available on Steam since 2020 is apparently different to some extent (in addition to changing "vs" to "&" in the title). According to reviews from Steam users, the player now eg. controls units in combat using keyboard keys - so perhaps more of the issues described in this review regarding 2018 version might have already been fixed in the currently available 2020 version. Looks like 2018 version was an early port from iOS version of the game, thus the point&click interface not really suitable for PC (or Amiga ;-) ). (I am still in the process of reading/watching reviews and deciding about the game myself so I cannot share my own experience with the game yet.)
@@tehvalheru If you try out the latest version and these things seem to be fixed, do please let me know :)
Or just try something for yourself and make your own opinion
This is actually an app i have had it on my phone for quite a while
MAAAAAANNNNN I ussed to play it for ours!!!!!!!! ohh nostalgia !!
where did you find it OMG...!!!!! it was in amiga and loved it.....
Jimmakos 76 It's on Steam. I bought it via Green Man Gaming.
"If you like your games being decided by completely random dice rolls" Interesting choice of words for a channel that prominently features World of Tanks ;)
That game just looks like a train wreck to play. And I don't think that's how Sun Tzu advocated fighting off raiders on your supply lines.
Lolol I know which part of the US wants the South to rise again!!!
I guess you haven't seen the Nintendo Switch version.
I haven't. Is it as bad as this?
@@MarkGFL It worse. It's cartoonish and the map is smaller with large icons in them. You'll have to see it here on RUclips.
@@man-yp1gb Just looked it up and I see what you mean. It looks awful.
@@MarkGFLnow you'll have to make a video about it
Fucken $45 AUD on switch. I remember the version your talking about. I played it on NES. And the 90s game was way better.
the xbox 360 version is really good
This game had some hilarious bits in it. You were able to make the camera man jump if you clicked on him and there were a few others. Bit of a hefty price on Xbox one.
Saved me money this did! I will stick with playing the original on my Amiga which I still play
Wish I still had my old Amiga! I'd be playing this, Lotus Espirit Turbo Challenge, Bloodwych, Moonstone and Legends of Valor. Ah, great times...
@@MarkGFL You could use WInUAE, it works great if you cant be bothered to setup your Amiga or no longer have one.
@@swampjajc Thanks. I sold mine years ago so might look into this.
I can hear the bitter disappointment in your voice. Truly the past is another country.
yes a good game, the first one that is, and for war games the amiga had action stations, the best naval war game ever.
James Avery hmmm I don't remember that one.
well it was a very complex sim, with a lot of input and detail, but much fun to play. how about harpoon?
I bought this years ago on steam remembering the old Amiga version "think it's a 2012 title". And I did not play much of it before I left it. Train hijack is the only thing that is close to being the same, but still badly done like the rest. The way battles worked was the biggest turn off. As you said, it's a point and click vs controlling all yourself. Tho... worst part is all the fun music was left out.
Why are title and whole description translated in my language?
Nikola Jovanović I use Google Translate to translate some stuff into regional languages. Bit of an experiment to see if it helps with video reach :)
Well that is nice, but I don't think it worked very well... Links shouldnt be translated and also in title, only word that should be translated is "review". Sorry for criticism, but Google Translate isn't very reliable for translation to my language
That's good to know, thanks.
Cheers. I would've been livid if I had purchased, looks and plays atrocious compared to the original
I play on ps 3 and i love it
hey those caracters are from the french comic books 'Les tuniques bleus'
Correction: You mean Belgian comic books ;-)
De blauwbloezen
AMIGA !!!!!!!
You are so good
#Diversification
Amiga version more better.
I agree, was a big fan of the Amiga version, but this game is a real turd and an insult to the original game.
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