@@alberqt209 I'm Super new to understanding everything..I have been buying drones that had radios etc. I am transitioning into bnf. Thx for the info. Anyone have any thoughts on the Radio link T8S? Amazon has it for 54 bucks right now..I need and want a radio but Def want you guys who are more experienced at unviseral radio setups to chime in. So far it's that one I'm looking at as well. Thanks all
@@Fiya_gamez I haven't even flown a single day in my life my guy so talk about a newb lol I've just been doing my research as to what I needed because I bought an old 5in diy kit that came with a flysky radio for 70$, built the quad and one of the motors was dead, decided to put that project on hold since it's a dinosaur apm2.8 FC and ordered me the TH freestyle lol now I'm impatiently waiting to get my hands on Monday 😂
Just ordered the tinysleds mount... I have a tinyhawk II Freestyle, works perfectly. And a tinyhawk II with a fkd up vtx. Plans to add the sled with unify pro 32 and tbs tracer to the freestyle, and move the stock vtx to the tinyhawk II that's broken.
I had the exact same issue with mis-wiring the SBUS lol. Eventually came to the same conclusion as u did, then swapped it over and good to go. Man that sled makes the install so clean. Great video. No issues here with my eachine nano vtx. I run it at 200mw every flight, just so I can cleanly get around my all brick house
Do RC I didn’t know about the sled till after I had already installed the eachine. I basically foam taped it to the top of the back plastic motor plugs, then I zip tied the vtx down to the bottom plate if that makes sense. To prevent the vtx from ever coming into contact with the top plate. And I installed the Xm plus under the fc. There’s enough room to tuck it under nicely. Obviously have to use heat shrink around the Xm plus though
@@djs134 ah gotcha. I'll have the check the pinout. I have one here. I get the feeling those that fried their fcs were probably trying to run at something silly like 400mw...
Do RC I ran mine at 400 also, just a few times and no issues. I can’t remember who’s channel I was on but I do remember hearing about people frying there fc while hooking up a vtx like u meantioned.
@@djs134 i think it was drone camps but that's the only mention of it I've heard. I wonder if one guy made a stupid, fried his fc, blamed it on the vtx power and that's how it got started.
These are some, excellent upgrades to the THFS. I just started flying mine, and so far been crashing a lot due to my inexperience. I plan on practicing more though. I need to be a decent flyer before I upgrade, and or get a new qwad. The THFS is quieter than I expected, and it is very durable. I almost lost my signal and noticed even when I was flying close by it was losing the signal, then I checked it out and the receiver connecter was halfway off the pins, so I fixed it, and hope the problem is gone. Thank you for the tips, I like your setup! Awesome video, it was very informative!
I can barely fly my THFS around my yard because the VTX sucks and I keep crashing (OG Tinyhawk gets better signal on the same channel). Just ordered one of these along with the XM+ and TBS Nano Pro32, and I can't wait to get it soldered in and up in the air. ETA: Got it the other day, and the VTX and RX both came with pins, while the sled did not. Some experiences may vary, I guess, but header pins aren't that hard to get ahold of if you have an electronics store worth its salt in the area.
Done everything than I undone everything as my vtx wasn’t working.. and now i lost patience.. i think i’ll just give them to someone who can solder all that if they aren’t broke already. It took me 2 weeks to fail.. can’t go through all that again. too bad i’ve spent over 250£ for the drone and upgrades.. :)) but your video is great! Wish all who try this.. the best! And tons of patience
Good instructional for some good upgrades. Only problem for me with the THFS2 is after an XT30 upgrade and TinysLED install the ESC's eventually give out. Good frame to build a fun 2.5" micro quad if you have the patience/skill to do all the small soldering!
I was told that you can wire the VTX ,5 V / G off the 🔋 tabs, instead of the FC/ board if not sure of burning up the FC? I haven’t tried that way myself on any of my upgrade Mod’s to see if it works!
If the VTX wants 5 volts then you're going to be overvolting it by running it directly off a two s battery or undervolting it by running it directly off of a 1S battery. That's not to say it won't work but it may be out of specification
Just got the quad and im so unhappy with it. I don’t get why they wouldn’t just make it great out of the box... I am bound to a QX7 stock antenna in D8 and can’t get 10 ft away without rssi warnings. Ready to set it on fire nd go back to my 5in but it’s so big and loud for neighborhood flying. I should be able to fly in the lot beside my house with no upgrades, right? I can’t even fly it LOS from my porch to the sidewalk. Very jealous when I see people enjoying their THFS!!!!
You definitely should be able to go at least a couple hundred feet with no issues. Does the antenna look ok? You might want to contact emax and see what they can do. A sub is appreciated!
Do RC That’s what I did. I did a rebind on a new profile and also tried with my iRangeX module and had the same experience so I stopped flying it immediately and don’t want to even consider upgrading if it’s wonky. Hope to hear form them soon because I REALLY want to fly the dang thing!!!! It looks amazing all over RUclips!!!!! Just not in my case :-( I hope their support is helpful. Fingers crossed.
I hope so too. In my experience its been a bit hit or miss. Just be persistent if they try to give you the run-around. It's a great quad and well worth the trouble!
Just seeing this video now but thank you. I had no idea how to remove stock VTX. I'm going to go practice on a busted Tinyhawk 2 FC I have. If I feel good about it I might upgrade my working Tinyhawk 2 FS
I have just put one together too, but... I get no video reception... I am a beginner, but I had done some solderinig in the past - as you say - it is not the easiest project, but can be pulled off. I also have one board assembled by Tinysleds themselves, and I used it as a guide too - especially regarding Betaflight settings. I was able to bind the RX to my TX and I can see stick inputs working in BF. The vtx leds do their normal startup blinking routine, but I get no video in my goggles... Do I need to do some BF configuration to enable video output from the Unify vtx? When I plug in the board assembled by Tinysleds to BF there is no 'video transmitter' available in the left-hand menu of BF (even if I power on the board from the battery). Also, when using this board, I can see and access a vtx-related sub-menu in crossfire configuration of the RX on my Tango 2 transmitter (e.g. I can change the power output of the vtx, change bands/channels etc.). However when I plug 'my' board to BF I can still see the VTX menu on the left and I can access it. At the same time, when accessing RX crossfire menu on my Tango 2 I cannot see the vtx -related submenu like on the other board that was assembled by Tinysleds... As if the RX couldn't 'see' the vtx or as if they didn't communicate with each other.... Or maybe it is the FC - vtx connection/communication issue? How is the FC supposed to recognize the new vtx? Have you got any suggestions?
I just picked up a TH Freestyle with your exact same sled/vtx/xm+ setup. For some reason, my rx wont talk to betaflight. Rx binds, the ports (uart # one set to serial rx) and configuration (serial rx/sbus) are correct. With tx on and battery plugged in, the rx binds but there is no response to stick movements. I tried putting "set serial_rx_inverted=on" into cli, but that made no difference. I've set up a few xm+ rx's before, and everything looks perfect. I'm stumped.
Hi, I have to Solder with my Shanking hand syndrome, that Sucks! I like your Clean work, is your Tiny Hawk 2 have the stock 25Mw Camera? If not what camera are you using?
You definitely could. The pins are plenty long enough after cutting but desoldering is the safest way to go. I've done a decent amount of work with electronics so I felt confident about cutting them. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Hey man I just got the nano hawk x and need some help on what to get for the vtx because I lifted off a pad on the antenna when trying to solder on a full connector
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I wanted to say that my issue regarding failsafe was related to my qx7 became unbound to the frsky rx and reverted back to the on board RX so I had no antenna. Super weird because I bound it and it flew ok the first run then something happened to the binding. I went through the bind process again, several power cycles and it is now bound to the XMplus again.
Ok, have a question. I just put the Xm-plus on my Tinyhawk freestyle as well. But, I cant get the RSSI to pop up on my radio or the OSD. I have Taranis X-lite S and it worked with the stock receiver. What did you do to get it to work?
Love your videos! I recently bought a tiny hawk freestyle and i keep getting RX Loss and the quad will fall out of the sky. I was wondering maybe you knew of a way to fix this. Will I need to upgrade mine like yours?
Yes the pads needed to be bridged. I think I put that in the video. I didn't include bf setup because it's been covered by a bunch of other channels. Basically you just set serial RX on for uart1 and set sbus on the receiver type. As far as setting up smart audio it's just a matter of selecting it for the uart you hook it to. This doesn't work for the nano pro though. I hear it will work for the 32. Thanks for commenting and a sub is appreciated!!
@@Lcanino there is a special akk patch of betaflight that will supposedly make it work. I didn't really look into it much further than that as sa vtx control isn't that important to me on this quad. In order for the sa signal to get to the vtx the fc sa pads do need to be bridged. Doing so physically connects the pin on the vtx to the pin on the fc.
I have several quads (including a 2.5" diatone). The upgrades were done because I like doing mods and i like making videos:). Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Thank you, it works great for me now, by any chance you have STL file for antennas both XM and VTX and also for XT30 all together? how are you holding all up
Hey sorry I don't really have any of this stuff anymore. I haven't been flying fpv for a while. Started getting headaches in the goggles unfortunately..
I think I followed the dictions fairly well but don't see any video signal. What would the steps be in debugging this? Perhaps there are some settings I need to change in Beta flight?
I am about to try this on Tiny Hawk 2 (regular) . Tinysled, XM+, and Pro32 nano all came in. My soldering skill is crappy. I ordered practice board before trying it. This is moreof practicing on a cheap drone first lol.. Then try upgrading Cinecan. Then move on to something better
nice video , can you please give us the links of these TBS and XM+ receiver you took, I'm not sure i'm checking the good ones on TBS website. I might do the upgrade but i want to order the good references. ty
Hey, thanks for the video. I'm only adding the vtx not the RX do I just solder the vtx to the sled and thats it? I don't need to solder any other points? Thanks man 🔥
Thanks for the video, I have the same parts and are about to do this mod. How do you configure the VTX to 50mw if you cant set up smart audio? Mine came with a separate button but no instructions for soldering it. Came with no instructions at all. Thanks again
Great job! I believe there's a setting in beta flight where you can change the smart audio protocol in the CLI command then you should be able to get smart audio working I believe it's in the github manual for tuning 4.1.... I have it working on mine ;)
Was there anything special you did in beta flight? I did a rx upgrade to my tinyhawk2 using the FrSky Archer m+ and I keep getting badrx error and drops from the sky. I am using telemetry and it shows 99 on my TX but osd shows low rssi. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Great video!!
You should add affiliate links, or at least all the info. Like TBS Nano VTX refers to more models, als what pins? Where to get them? Would like to follow your steps but don't have the required info.
I'm using andyrcs pids. They really clean things up. The xt30 helped with sag but not oscillations. A sub is appreciated! I'll be doing a custom nano cam mount for the tinyhawk s next:)
Thanks for sharing, just found your channel and really like your content. Im fairly new to the hobby and its cool to see what i can attempt in the future. Liked and subbed!
I saw in another comment you know that you have to bridge the fc sa pads for beta flight smart audio to work. If you look at the pads on your sled you did NOT bridge them. Do you think you should do that and see if SA works? If you look on their website it shows the pads on the sled need to be bridged. Am I wrong? I’m about to install this but trying to do more research first.
Nice man. If there is anyway you can add it to the video it would help a lot of people. There are only 2 or 3 videos of this sled being used and none of them show the soldering like you. That’s a crucial piece missing and for me who is knew to fpv it would be helpful man. Not sure if you can add it to the video but maybe the notes underneath
Think I want to do this to my tinyhawk 2.. just need a lil more range outside my building.. think too much interference. doesnt go far at all before video gets back most the time.. raised it to 200mw helps some but wish i could go further without worrying.. i havent soldered in 10 years though lmao.. and never was good at it lol
ive done the sled mod along with the xm+ and it works great. Does this mod use the tx1, tx2, rx1,rx2 pads? Want to connect a small gps and wondering how it would work.
Just learning the sport. Currently flying the TH2. Next up considering the 'freestyle'. How is it 'out-of-the-box'? Does it need extensive mods? thanks
It's a good quad out of the box. The camera isn't great and I upgraded mine pretty much right away. As long as you're flying close to you the vtx and rx that are built in are fine. There are plenty of people who fly the freestyle stock and love it. I will say that if you're used to the nano 2 in the th2 you will probably be disappointed by the stock cam in the freestyle.
@@DoRC You're right about the camera. I noticed right away that the TH2 camera was much better than the original TH. Also, the TH2 tune is so much better than the original TH. I was getting discouraged trying to get a 'feel' for flying FPV with the original TH...but the TH2 is much much better! Having said that, is replacing/ungrading the camera a big deal? Do you have any tutorials on the process? thanks.
can you disable the internal VTX from the AIO FC? also, was it worth upgrading VTX board vs. just the Antenna? my TH 2 Freestyle rx died, rest ok, planning on upgrading Rx. thanks for the video.
VERY NICE, I'm trying to (build) mount a Runcam Nano 2, Diatone f411 nano FC, frsky xm+ and Runcam xt200u to a Diatone Cube 239 with great difficulty. I was wondering if you have any suggestions on this subject? I think I need to use a smaller vtx other than the tbs unify pro nano... awesome modification...cheers!
The wires should really be soldered and heat shrunk. I supposed you could do something like twist them together but I really wouldn't advise it. Losing a quad because a camera wire came loose would be a bummer. It's a very easy job as the color of the wires match from the old camera to the new one.
The shrink wrap is just to prevent electrical shorting on other things. As long as you make sure the receiver isn't touching other boards then you don't need to shrink wrap it
@@DoRC Sorry, I didn't know you sold them. I was trying to be lazy and not spend time designing my own. My reply went the wrong place on the first try.
I'm not sure. There is a lot less room on the tinyhawk s. Also the pins on the rxsr aren't going to align with the board like the xm+ ones do. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
@@DoRC Do you know if i can use this controller: droneshop.nl/flysky-i6-2-4-ghz-6-channel-lcd-screen-remote-controller On this drone: droneshop.nl/emax-tinyhawk-freestyle-bind-and-fly
Just followed your instructions to the T. Used the TBS nano 32 though. Video quality is great... brand new xm+ is not working. Another new one on order. Desoldering skills getting practice. Thanks again for your detailed video.
i planning on doing the same upgrades but with a new xm (not a xm+) receiver i have laying around. do you know if ill have to flash the rx with newer firmware to have rssi in my osd?
I have no personal experience with the xm but research indicates that some shipped with rssi firmware and others didn't. It looks like you'll have to try it out to find out. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
@@DoRC yah ill probably just flash it to save the hassle of having to remove it if it didnt come with it. love the channel & subbed a while ago when u made the camera mount video. p.s. they fit great and work with the eos2. also in reguards to the freestyle board "issues" with vtx upgrade. diatone makes a micro bec that i fit under the fc. i powered a eachine vtx03s directly from the battery with it, but its shoe horned in there, gona take it out and use their nano vtx and upgrade the rx while im at it. install wont be nearly a clean as your with the sled though :-)
@@DoRC For instance I have rssi on my screen and it works. But I no longer get low rssi warning on my TX and it caused me to failsafe without warning. I also can't get telemetry when I scan on my Taranis Qx7
@@DoRC Is there a way to get any type of verbal warning that you know of? This thing just fell out of the sky on me and into the street. Granted I was inside my house (sending the signal though walls) but I can't always be watching it.
@@mrpuddlemrpuddle you can set an rssi warning on the osd in betaflight. Other than that no. Honestly I've never thought about. I always just keep an eye on the rssi on the osd
Does anyone know how to set up the xm+ with this specific drone? I've gotten mine soldered on and bound to my radio but can't get the flight controller to use it for the life of me.
I did do that. After doing more research I resoldered everything and used a command to set the rx to inverted in betaflight and now it's working. Not sure which one did it but one of them seemed to do the trick... Thanks for your help!
I did this mod except I used the 400 milliwatt vtx. All was ok until I went up to 400 milliwatts. I blew an esc on my board. I'm not sure that's what caused it but I'm afraid to push it now that I've got a new board. I've been keeping it at 200 milliwatts with no issue. Also anyone considering this should flash latest firmware on xm plus. My rssi just stays the same no matter what. I'm not going to remove it just to get rssi working.
Can anyone verify the VTX comments? I have TBS nano 400mw, am I safe to run it at 400? My next step down is 100mw. I bought it with xm plus to run my quad a long way. That would really stink if I couldn’t boost my me up to 400.....
So far I've heard several running 100mw and 200mw. One person said they briefly ran at 400mw with no I'll effect but no guarantees.... Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Got the tinyhawk about 2 weeks ago and I'm already wanting to modify it to make it better I feel like a $100 drones about to turn into a little over $200 but I bet it will be worth it
I just ordered my stuff and started to get my packages, all same stuff except I got 400mw VTX. This was helpful. An you recommend a resource that explains what each connection is for, the basic so I understand the why behind the what I am doing.
If you look on tinysleds site there is a pinout for the sled. That will give you most of the info. After that it's just power and ground for the RX as well as the single sbus connection which sends data from the RX to the flight controller. A sub is appreciated!
Sorry about the choppy DVR. I think my goggles are starting to die:(
Will the 1X Flysky FS-i6X RC Transmitter and reciever work with this?
@@Fiya_gamez I ordered a fs-rx2a pro v1 on amazon to pair my new freestyle with my flysky fs-i6
@@alberqt209 I'm Super new to understanding everything..I have been buying drones that had radios etc. I am transitioning into bnf. Thx for the info.
Anyone have any thoughts on the Radio link T8S? Amazon has it for 54 bucks right now..I need and want a radio but Def want you guys who are more experienced at unviseral radio setups to chime in. So far it's that one I'm looking at as well.
Thanks all
@@alberqt209 thanks so much. Almost pulled the trigger. .but so many variables. Lol thx for your response. I'm a check that out right now
@@Fiya_gamez I haven't even flown a single day in my life my guy so talk about a newb lol I've just been doing my research as to what I needed because I bought an old 5in diy kit that came with a flysky radio for 70$, built the quad and one of the motors was dead, decided to put that project on hold since it's a dinosaur apm2.8 FC and ordered me the TH freestyle lol now I'm impatiently waiting to get my hands on Monday 😂
Just ordered the tinysleds mount... I have a tinyhawk II Freestyle, works perfectly. And a tinyhawk II with a fkd up vtx. Plans to add the sled with unify pro 32 and tbs tracer to the freestyle, and move the stock vtx to the tinyhawk II that's broken.
I had the exact same issue with mis-wiring the SBUS lol. Eventually came to the same conclusion as u did, then swapped it over and good to go. Man that sled makes the install so clean. Great video. No issues here with my eachine nano vtx. I run it at 200mw every flight, just so I can cleanly get around my all brick house
Did the eachine vtx fit cleanly in the sled?
Do RC I didn’t know about the sled till after I had already installed the eachine. I basically foam taped it to the top of the back plastic motor plugs, then I zip tied the vtx down to the bottom plate if that makes sense. To prevent the vtx from ever coming into contact with the top plate. And I installed the Xm plus under the fc. There’s enough room to tuck it under nicely. Obviously have to use heat shrink around the Xm plus though
@@djs134 ah gotcha. I'll have the check the pinout. I have one here. I get the feeling those that fried their fcs were probably trying to run at something silly like 400mw...
Do RC I ran mine at 400 also, just a few times and no issues. I can’t remember who’s channel I was on but I do remember hearing about people frying there fc while hooking up a vtx like u meantioned.
@@djs134 i think it was drone camps but that's the only mention of it I've heard. I wonder if one guy made a stupid, fried his fc, blamed it on the vtx power and that's how it got started.
Very helpful. I’m researching my own upgrades and seeing what you use and how you do it is very valuable so thank you!
I'm glad it was helpful. I'm going to be switching to making surface RC videos for a while so if you're interested in those be sure to subscribe :-)
Any updates?
These are some, excellent upgrades to the THFS. I just started flying mine, and so far been crashing a lot due to my inexperience. I plan on practicing more though. I need to be a decent flyer before I upgrade, and or get a new qwad. The THFS is quieter than I expected, and it is very durable. I almost lost my signal and noticed even when I was flying close by it was losing the signal, then I checked it out and the receiver connecter was halfway off the pins, so I fixed it, and hope the problem is gone. Thank you for the tips, I like your setup! Awesome video, it was very informative!
I can barely fly my THFS around my yard because the VTX sucks and I keep crashing (OG Tinyhawk gets better signal on the same channel). Just ordered one of these along with the XM+ and TBS Nano Pro32, and I can't wait to get it soldered in and up in the air.
ETA: Got it the other day, and the VTX and RX both came with pins, while the sled did not. Some experiences may vary, I guess, but header pins aren't that hard to get ahold of if you have an electronics store worth its salt in the area.
I can't go 15 feet without getting Rxloss or 30rssi lol. Nice man
Done everything than I undone everything as my vtx wasn’t working.. and now i lost patience.. i think i’ll just give them to someone who can solder all that if they aren’t broke already. It took me 2 weeks to fail.. can’t go through all that again. too bad i’ve spent over 250£ for the drone and upgrades.. :)) but your video is great! Wish all who try this.. the best! And tons of patience
Good instructional for some good upgrades. Only problem for me with the THFS2 is after an XT30 upgrade and TinysLED install the ESC's eventually give out. Good frame to build a fun 2.5" micro quad if you have the patience/skill to do all the small soldering!
I was told that you can wire the VTX ,5 V / G off the 🔋 tabs, instead of the FC/ board if not sure of burning up the FC? I haven’t tried that way myself on any of my upgrade Mod’s to see if it works!
If the VTX wants 5 volts then you're going to be overvolting it by running it directly off a two s battery or undervolting it by running it directly off of a 1S battery. That's not to say it won't work but it may be out of specification
Just got the quad and im so unhappy with it. I don’t get why they wouldn’t just make it great out of the box... I am bound to a QX7 stock antenna in D8 and can’t get 10 ft away without rssi warnings. Ready to set it on fire nd go back to my 5in but it’s so big and loud for neighborhood flying. I should be able to fly in the lot beside my house with no upgrades, right? I can’t even fly it LOS from my porch to the sidewalk.
Very jealous when I see people enjoying their THFS!!!!
You definitely should be able to go at least a couple hundred feet with no issues. Does the antenna look ok? You might want to contact emax and see what they can do. A sub is appreciated!
Do RC That’s what I did. I did a rebind on a new profile and also tried with my iRangeX module and had the same experience so I stopped flying it immediately and don’t want to even consider upgrading if it’s wonky. Hope to hear form them soon because I REALLY want to fly the dang thing!!!! It looks amazing all over RUclips!!!!! Just not in my case :-( I hope their support is helpful. Fingers crossed.
I hope so too. In my experience its been a bit hit or miss. Just be persistent if they try to give you the run-around. It's a great quad and well worth the trouble!
Do RC aged. I see the potential. Thx man ... I’ll keep you posted.
Please do!
thank you so much for this video. I just got my sled and VTX in and will be doing this soon.
Awesome! It's a great mod:). Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Just seeing this video now but thank you. I had no idea how to remove stock VTX. I'm going to go practice on a busted Tinyhawk 2 FC I have.
If I feel good about it I might upgrade my working Tinyhawk 2 FS
I have just put one together too, but... I get no video reception...
I am a beginner, but I had done some solderinig in the past - as you say - it is not the easiest project, but can be pulled off. I also have one board assembled by Tinysleds themselves, and I used it as a guide too - especially regarding Betaflight settings.
I was able to bind the RX to my TX and I can see stick inputs working in BF.
The vtx leds do their normal startup blinking routine, but I get no video in my goggles... Do I need to do some BF configuration to enable video output from the Unify vtx?
When I plug in the board assembled by Tinysleds to BF there is no 'video transmitter' available in the left-hand menu of BF (even if I power on the board from the battery). Also, when using this board, I can see and access a vtx-related sub-menu in crossfire configuration of the RX on my Tango 2 transmitter (e.g. I can change the power output of the vtx, change bands/channels etc.).
However when I plug 'my' board to BF I can still see the VTX menu on the left and I can access it. At the same time, when accessing RX crossfire menu on my Tango 2 I cannot see the vtx -related submenu like on the other board that was assembled by Tinysleds... As if the RX couldn't 'see' the vtx or as if they didn't communicate with each other.... Or maybe it is the FC - vtx connection/communication issue? How is the FC supposed to recognize the new vtx?
Have you got any suggestions?
great video, need to do mine up now curious where you picked the sled up from tho
I just picked up a TH Freestyle with your exact same sled/vtx/xm+ setup.
For some reason, my rx wont talk to betaflight. Rx binds, the ports (uart # one set to serial rx) and configuration (serial rx/sbus) are correct. With tx on and battery plugged in, the rx binds but there is no response to stick movements.
I tried putting "set serial_rx_inverted=on" into cli, but that made no difference.
I've set up a few xm+ rx's before, and everything looks perfect. I'm stumped.
Out of curiosity, the pins used to connect the sled to the flight controller, any idea on what size they are?
What kind of pins did you use?
Hi, I have to Solder with my Shanking hand syndrome, that Sucks! I like your Clean work, is your Tiny Hawk 2 have the stock 25Mw Camera? If not what camera are you using?
I don't remember what camera I had as it's been a while and I switched to all digital.
Could you de-solder instead of cut the VTX off? I would thing you could preserve the pins and make it easier.
You definitely could. The pins are plenty long enough after cutting but desoldering is the safest way to go. I've done a decent amount of work with electronics so I felt confident about cutting them. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Hey man I just got the nano hawk x and need some help on what to get for the vtx because I lifted off a pad on the antenna when trying to solder on a full connector
I'd love to help you unfortunately I'm not really in to quads anymore and I don't know what the latest tech is.
Would you know what those pins you used for the receiver are called?
Just look up pin header strip on amazon. They're usually sold in three or four inch long strips that you can cut off what you need.
I've done this build but I'm getting signal break up if I try and take off
What vtx antenna is that I'm try to track one down for mine ...love your videos you do good work ...thank you .
Ok new to the hobby just got this drone..... havnt done alot of soldering.... curious of what kind of soldering wire I should use
I use this KESTER SOLDER 32117 24-6040-0027 60/40 Stand, 0.031" Diameter,"44", 1.5" www.amazon.com/dp/B00068IJPO/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_K7IbEbBG0E8AE
It's a bit expensive but you get a lot for your money and it's good quality stuff. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Oh and the cool kids call it a quad:)
@@DoRC appreciate the reply ordered the wire... I'll be building my first "quad" soon
I wanted to say that my issue regarding failsafe was related to my qx7 became unbound to the frsky rx and reverted back to the on board RX so I had no antenna. Super weird because I bound it and it flew ok the first run then something happened to the binding. I went through the bind process again, several power cycles and it is now bound to the XMplus again.
That's good news! Glad it was something simple:)
how did you figure out that you were boudn to the onboard rx, if i might ask and if you remember? having this same issue
@@NukularPower honestly cant remember how I figured it out. I think I get a cli command
Great video. Watching the rssi value stay in the 90’s for the majority was quite impressive. Thanks for the added info at the end.
Thanks. This is one of my favorite quads now that the upgrades ha e been done! A sub is appreciated:)
Ok, have a question. I just put the Xm-plus on my Tinyhawk freestyle as well. But, I cant get the RSSI to pop up on my radio or the OSD. I have Taranis X-lite S and it worked with the stock receiver. What did you do to get it to work?
Love your videos! I recently bought a tiny hawk freestyle and i keep getting RX Loss and the quad will fall out of the sky. I was wondering maybe you knew of a way to fix this. Will I need to upgrade mine like yours?
How far away are you from the quad when this happens and what transmitter are you using?
@@DoRC its completely random when it happens but usually about 60-80 feet away. Im using a FrSky Taranis x9 lite
Dirty Mike same issue
@dirtymike u need d8 protocol xjt module worked for.me
Forgot to include beta flight set up and how to set up smart audio. Do you know if you have to bridge the pads for smart audio on the tiny sled.
Yes the pads needed to be bridged. I think I put that in the video. I didn't include bf setup because it's been covered by a bunch of other channels. Basically you just set serial RX on for uart1 and set sbus on the receiver type. As far as setting up smart audio it's just a matter of selecting it for the uart you hook it to. This doesn't work for the nano pro though. I hear it will work for the 32.
Thanks for commenting and a sub is appreciated!!
Do RC do you know how I can get it to work on the pro nano? And for the pro nano do the pads still need to be bridged?
@@Lcanino there is a special akk patch of betaflight that will supposedly make it work. I didn't really look into it much further than that as sa vtx control isn't that important to me on this quad.
In order for the sa signal to get to the vtx the fc sa pads do need to be bridged. Doing so physically connects the pin on the vtx to the pin on the fc.
@@DoRC any links to those videos? btw your camera mount came in the mail today. awesome job man! they fit like a glove
@@srivera82srawesome! I don't have links but how I described it in my first reply is basically all you need to do.
Now you have a $180 Tinyhawk! Could have bought a Diatone 2.5 or 3 inch for about the same.
I have several quads (including a 2.5" diatone). The upgrades were done because I like doing mods and i like making videos:). Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Or a Nazgul5 😁
Modding is almost never the most economical way to go. It sure is fun though:). Thanks and a sub is greatly appreciated!!
Thank you, it works great for me now, by any chance you have STL file for antennas both XM and VTX and also for XT30 all together? how are you holding all up
Hey sorry I don't really have any of this stuff anymore. I haven't been flying fpv for a while. Started getting headaches in the goggles unfortunately..
@@DoRC oh sorry to hear that, hope you can get back to FPV ...
@@flyinghigh2646 maybe one of these days :-) for now I'm really happy to be doing surface RC again!
I think I followed the dictions fairly well but don't see any video signal. What would the steps be in debugging this? Perhaps there are some settings I need to change in Beta flight?
FYI I am using the pro version, and when I connect to beta flight I don't even see the video tab?
FYI New Boards now have a Solder bridge to select 5v or Battery Voltage on top. You must bridge one for power to vtx.
Ah. Good catch. Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Life has been in the way:)
I am about to try this on Tiny Hawk 2 (regular) . Tinysled, XM+, and Pro32 nano all came in. My soldering skill is crappy. I ordered practice board before trying it. This is moreof practicing on a cheap drone first lol.. Then try upgrading Cinecan. Then move on to something better
Hi, I bought the sled and the TBS UNIFY PRO32, is the same pin line up or different?
nice video , can you please give us the links of these TBS and XM+ receiver you took, I'm not sure i'm checking the good ones on TBS website. I might do the upgrade but i want to order the good references. ty
interesting video,,, any links to the parts used?
Hey, thanks for the video. I'm only adding the vtx not the RX do I just solder the vtx to the sled and thats it? I don't need to solder any other points?
Thanks man 🔥
Thanks for the video, I have the same parts and are about to do this mod. How do you configure the VTX to 50mw if you cant set up smart audio? Mine came with a separate button but no instructions for soldering it. Came with no instructions at all. Thanks again
There is a place to solder the button on the sled.
Great job! I believe there's a setting in beta flight where you can change the smart audio protocol in the CLI command then you should be able to get smart audio working I believe it's in the github manual for tuning 4.1.... I have it working on mine ;)
Yeah? Do you have details by chance? It's be nice to get that working!
@@DoRC The TinySleds instructions say that if you want to use SmartAudio you have to jump the pads where it says "FC SA"
Indeed they do. I did finally figure that out:)
Did you change your PIDS after you finished upgrading? If so, would you share with me?
Was there anything special you did in beta flight? I did a rx upgrade to my tinyhawk2 using the FrSky Archer m+ and I keep getting badrx error and drops from the sky. I am using telemetry and it shows 99 on my TX but osd shows low rssi. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Great video!!
You should add affiliate links, or at least all the info. Like TBS Nano VTX refers to more models, als what pins? Where to get them? Would like to follow your steps but don't have the required info.
Nice vid man... I'm planning on replacing my camera with the nano. Where did you get the 3d printed mounts at?
Designed and 3d printed them. I used to sell them but that was a long time ago.
Awesome video. I didn't hear an oscillations on the punch out. Is that bc you added an xt30 or did you change your PID's? Thanks!
I'm using andyrcs pids. They really clean things up. The xt30 helped with sag but not oscillations. A sub is appreciated! I'll be doing a custom nano cam mount for the tinyhawk s next:)
I tried uploading Andysrc pids and on upload it keeps giving me errors.
@@Lcanino what betaflight is the quad running and what version of configurator are you using?
Very very clean install!!!!
Thabks. I can't stand having stuff double side taped all over the place. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Thanks for sharing, just found your channel and really like your content. Im fairly new to the hobby and its cool to see what i can attempt in the future. Liked and subbed!
Thanks! This hobby is a blast:)
What transmitter are you using? I have a Taranis QX7 and would it work with XM+? If so what do I need to do to the Transmitter?
I use a qx7. You don't need to do anything but bind the xm+ to the qx7:). Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
@@DoRC Thanks for the reply. What did you do in Betaflight to change the receiver from onboard to the XM+?
I saw in another comment you know that you have to bridge the fc sa pads for beta flight smart audio to work. If you look at the pads on your sled you did NOT bridge them. Do you think you should do that and see if SA works? If you look on their website it shows the pads on the sled need to be bridged. Am I wrong? I’m about to install this but trying to do more research first.
You are absolutely right. I figured that out eventually:)
Nice man. If there is anyway you can add it to the video it would help a lot of people. There are only 2 or 3 videos of this sled being used and none of them show the soldering like you. That’s a crucial piece missing and for me who is knew to fpv it would be helpful man. Not sure if you can add it to the video but maybe the notes underneath
Think I want to do this to my tinyhawk 2.. just need a lil more range outside my building.. think too much interference. doesnt go far at all before video gets back most the time.. raised it to 200mw helps some but wish i could go further without worrying.. i havent soldered in 10 years though lmao.. and never was good at it lol
Q Speed Racer hey did you ever follow through on this? I just ordered the parts and was curious as to how everything would work out 😂
How did you get the audio?
Does that vtx have a mic?
will this sled work for the tinyhawk II race board?
ive done the sled mod along with the xm+ and it works great. Does this mod use the tx1, tx2, rx1,rx2 pads? Want to connect a small gps and wondering how it would work.
I believe it uses 1 for smart audio and 2 for the RX but honestly I can't remember for sure.
Just learning the sport. Currently flying the TH2. Next up considering the 'freestyle'. How is it 'out-of-the-box'? Does it need extensive mods? thanks
It's a good quad out of the box. The camera isn't great and I upgraded mine pretty much right away. As long as you're flying close to you the vtx and rx that are built in are fine.
There are plenty of people who fly the freestyle stock and love it. I will say that if you're used to the nano 2 in the th2 you will probably be disappointed by the stock cam in the freestyle.
@@DoRC You're right about the camera. I noticed right away that the TH2 camera was much better than the original TH. Also, the TH2 tune is so much better than the original TH. I was getting discouraged trying to get a 'feel' for flying FPV with the original TH...but the TH2 is much much better! Having said that, is replacing/ungrading the camera a big deal? Do you have any tutorials on the process? thanks.
@@checkeredflagfilms here ya go
ruclips.net/video/Bfrw1WBFh_o/видео.html
Great video , just a quick question , how did you get rssi with xm+
Xm+ outputs rssi on ch16 so you set that in betaflight as the rssi channel.
can you disable the internal VTX from the AIO FC? also, was it worth upgrading VTX board vs. just the Antenna? my TH 2 Freestyle rx died, rest ok, planning on upgrading Rx. thanks for the video.
VERY NICE, I'm trying to (build) mount a Runcam Nano 2, Diatone f411 nano FC, frsky xm+ and Runcam xt200u to a Diatone Cube 239 with great difficulty. I was wondering if you have any suggestions on this subject? I think I need to use a smaller vtx other than the tbs unify pro nano... awesome modification...cheers!
What problems are you having?
@@DoRC not enough space for Runcam tx200u and not sure of a way to mount. Thanks!
Hmm maybe add spacers under the canopy to give you more vertical space? The eachine nano vtx might fit better
@@DoRC OK, Sounds great... Thank you my friend...cheers!
Nice video! Can you put links for the parts used in the description? I'm looking for the VTX/RTX used but I want to be sure it's right before I buy
It's the frsky xm+ RX and tbs unify pro nano32 vtx. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
hey bud, I did the exact thing you did but I am getting failsafes very close to me. Much less range than the stock one
ANy ideas?
Saw your update. Glad you got it figured out!
Will this set up work with the crossfire nano se rx?
For the runcam how do you switch out connector? I am going to swap mine but do I need to solder them or is it easier than soldering?
The wires should really be soldered and heat shrunk. I supposed you could do something like twist them together but I really wouldn't advise it. Losing a quad because a camera wire came loose would be a bummer. It's a very easy job as the color of the wires match from the old camera to the new one.
Is it okay to not add some shrink wrap on the receiver?
The shrink wrap is just to prevent electrical shorting on other things. As long as you make sure the receiver isn't touching other boards then you don't need to shrink wrap it
Do you have the .STL for the TPU Camera Mount available?
I didn't release it as I sell them. Its been long enough that I might put it on thingiverse sometime soon.
@@DoRC Sorry, I didn't know you sold them. I was trying to be lazy and not spend time designing my own. My reply went the wrong place on the first try.
do you think this would work on a tiny hawk s the board looks the same just rotated was thinking of putting an rxs-r and a nano in one
I'm not sure. There is a lot less room on the tinyhawk s. Also the pins on the rxsr aren't going to align with the board like the xm+ ones do. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
upgraded VTX - no noise at 100mw but horizontal lines @ 400mw what cap should I go to? Current is: 16V 100uF...do you know?
Hmm. Im honestly not sure. Try 200uf but that's just a guess.
"the bench is an aboslute disater, signaling a job well done" xD
Do you know if you can connect the Tinyhawk freestyle to any controller?
It depends on what version you got. All controllers operate on different protocols. If you can be more specific I can help further.
@@DoRC Do you know if i can use this controller: droneshop.nl/flysky-i6-2-4-ghz-6-channel-lcd-screen-remote-controller
On this drone: droneshop.nl/emax-tinyhawk-freestyle-bind-and-fly
My RX antenna broke on my Tinyhawk 2... will this work ?
I'm not sure the sled will fit under the th2 canopy. You can just solder an new RX antenna on though.
does it still has smartaudio after changing the vtx?
hi .. can you share some links for the parts used ? thanks ..
Also how can I buy the camera guards from you?
What kind of controller do you use bro. Flysky or another brand.
Will this fit in the TH 2 race?
Just followed your instructions to the T. Used the TBS nano 32 though. Video quality is great... brand new xm+ is not working. Another new one on order. Desoldering skills getting practice. Thanks again for your detailed video.
Awesome though the dead xm+ is a bummer. Thanks for watching!
Can we get a link to the tinysleds please? Can’t find it
Tinysleds.com
i planning on doing the same upgrades but with a new xm (not a xm+) receiver i have laying around. do you know if ill have to flash the rx with newer firmware to have rssi in my osd?
I have no personal experience with the xm but research indicates that some shipped with rssi firmware and others didn't. It looks like you'll have to try it out to find out.
Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
@@DoRC yah ill probably just flash it to save the hassle of having to remove it if it didnt come with it. love the channel & subbed a while ago when u made the camera mount video. p.s. they fit great and work with the eos2. also in reguards to the freestyle board "issues" with vtx upgrade. diatone makes a micro bec that i fit under the fc. i powered a eachine vtx03s directly from the battery with it, but its shoe horned in there, gona take it out and use their nano vtx and upgrade the rx while im at it. install wont be nearly a clean as your with the sled though :-)
@@MrSparkyss that makes sense. From what I've heard the blown fc thing is probably a myth and you should be able to run any vtx straight from the fc.
Great vid! Subbed
link to the products would be great
Is there a way to enable telemetry after this mod? I can't seem to figure it out. Thanks!
Do you mean in the osd or on the tx?
@@DoRC For instance I have rssi on my screen and it works. But I no longer get low rssi warning on my TX and it caused me to failsafe without warning. I also can't get telemetry when I scan on my Taranis Qx7
@@mrpuddlemrpuddle ah. Unfortunately the xm+ is not a telemetry RX so you can get the rssi on osd but not on your tx.
@@DoRC Is there a way to get any type of verbal warning that you know of? This thing just fell out of the sky on me and into the street. Granted I was inside my house (sending the signal though walls) but I can't always be watching it.
@@mrpuddlemrpuddle you can set an rssi warning on the osd in betaflight. Other than that no. Honestly I've never thought about. I always just keep an eye on the rssi on the osd
What kind of iron are you using? Thanks!
Hakko 888
How do you get the sound to come in clean? Mine just sounds like static
It's actually being recorded on another camera sitting next to me. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Does anyone know how to set up the xm+ with this specific drone? I've gotten mine soldered on and bound to my radio but can't get the flight controller to use it for the life of me.
Did you set serialrx for uart1 and RX type to sbus in betaflight?
I did do that. After doing more research I resoldered everything and used a command to set the rx to inverted in betaflight and now it's working. Not sure which one did it but one of them seemed to do the trick... Thanks for your help!
@@bsutherland333 interesting. I didnt have to invert the uart on mine but fixed is fixed!
I looked at my non-freestyle TH ii and it looks like it also can take this mod. Has anyone tried it yet? Can you pls. confirm?
I did this mod except I used the 400 milliwatt vtx. All was ok until I went up to 400 milliwatts. I blew an esc on my board. I'm not sure that's what caused it but I'm afraid to push it now that I've got a new board. I've been keeping it at 200 milliwatts with no issue. Also anyone considering this should flash latest firmware on xm plus. My rssi just stays the same no matter what. I'm not going to remove it just to get rssi working.
I want to do something similar but with a HD camera and dvr
That'd be cool thought the layout of the frame will make adding another board very difficult.
Do RC I was thinking of putting 1-2mm taller stand offs to make the space
@@notyouraveragetechdad6865 gotcha. Sounds like fun:)
Can a iflight board work
The frame doesn't have standard mounting holes so you'd have to do something custom.
You didn't bridge the FC SA pads to tell it you were going to use smart audio, not crossfire.
Yep I did end up figuring that out:)
@@DoRC I have the parts on the way to do this. It is a very simple, clean way to upgrade the THFS.
@@stevo43068 for sure!
does smart audio work on this???
Sorry I don't remember. This was put together a long time ago.
@@DoRC hey man sorry for asking but do u mind checking I’m very new to this hobby and I’m very lost
Sure let me see what I can find out.
@@DoRC thanks
@@DoRC any updates?
can i get a link for the cam mounts? :D
Here ya go
ruclips.net/video/Bfrw1WBFh_o/видео.html
A sub is appreciated!
Do you have link to the sleds ?
Here ya go
www.racedayquads.com/products/tinysleds-tinyhawk-freestyle-vtx-rx-sled
Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Do RC thanks
Thanks a lot, great video!
Where can I buy the sled?
Tinysleds.com
@@DoRC Thank you.
@@rtcfpv1012 you're welcome. A sub is appreciated!
Very, very good! Have u been soldering & flying quads for a long time?? 😀👍👍
Can u upgrade my hubsan and my freestyle
In what ways?
Great job, thanks!
Thanks for watching! Sub is appreciated :-)
Can anyone verify the VTX comments? I have TBS nano 400mw, am I safe to run it at 400? My next step down is 100mw. I bought it with xm plus to run my quad a long way. That would really stink if I couldn’t boost my me up to 400.....
So far I've heard several running 100mw and 200mw. One person said they briefly ran at 400mw with no I'll effect but no guarantees....
Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
Do RC there are more than a few vids of guys running 400mw on this quad with no issues. Thanks for vid.
@@Lcanino awesome! I get the feeling one guy miswired something and the rumor propagated.
what batteries are you using? I want to get some more but if theres a better option than the stock im all for it
Rdq 2s 450mah with xt30. Good battery.
Got the tinyhawk about 2 weeks ago and I'm already wanting to modify it to make it better I feel like a $100 drones about to turn into a little over $200 but I bet it will be worth it
What kind of filament did you use or does it matterm
Sorry, I didn't know you sold them. I was trying to be lazy and not spend time designing my own.
The video about them is a few below this one.
I just ordered my stuff and started to get my packages, all same stuff except I got 400mw VTX. This was helpful. An you recommend a resource that explains what each connection is for, the basic so I understand the why behind the what I am doing.
If you look on tinysleds site there is a pinout for the sled. That will give you most of the info. After that it's just power and ground for the RX as well as the single sbus connection which sends data from the RX to the flight controller. A sub is appreciated!
What is the maximum VTX power output that you recommend? Great video and job BTW. I just ordered a Tinyhawk and looking forward to flying it.
I've found that 200mw is enough for most situations. Thanks for watching and a sub is appreciated!
NICE!
Thanks!!