Episode 2: The Stock FX4 Tires Must Go!
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2022
- Ford pairs the Maverick FX4 package with Pirelli Scorpion ATR tires, which honestly aren't really the kind of rubber you want for any real adventures off the pavement. In this episode, Christian talks about the decision to make the switch from the stock 225/65/R17s to a set of 245/65/R17 Cooper Discoverer ATs. From an improved look to better ground clearance and dramatically improved off-road performance, there are a lot of reasons to consider getting rid of the stock tires and beefing up the shoes on your Maverick!
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Great video! I love the way it changed the overall look of the truck! Cooper has always made a quality A/T tire! Enjoy!
Thanks man! Really appreciate the support.
Well presented video. I can't wait to get my FX4 .
Hope you enjoy it!
I just got the identical, Truck color and everything the Monday after Christmas and I love it can’t wait to see your new videos
Thanks man. I'll be dropping the next installment soon!
Great job. I get mine on Monday and will have to pay attention to my tires.
It's honestly hard to believe those Pirellis are Ford's choice for the FX4 package. As I said in the video, they are probably a fine tire for driving on pavement, but there's nothing there to provide any kind of performance off road, and lots of owners say they are terrible in the snow too. I'm hoping I can sell the set I took off on FB Marketplace for $400.
245/65/R17 is the perfect size for the Maverick! Looks great! Since I have a hybrid I will be going with 235/65/R17.
Thanks man! Curious about your choice. Would it make that much difference one way or the other 235 vs. 245?
@@themaverickhntr For the hybrid I want to keep the tires as close to the stock weight as possible as not to kill my mpg and performance. I will be going with Firestone Destination A/T2. They are only 3lbs more than the stock hybrid tires for the 235s. Someone else is running them on their hybrid and loves them.
What a sharp looking truck. I like the black rims and color of your truck, goes together nicely.
Thank you! I agree, but I am biased! Please consider subscribing to my channel if you haven't already, and I'll try to keep you up to date with all the fun things I'm doing with my Maverick.
@@themaverickhntr I did subscribe to your channel a few days ago. Keep up the good video's! Waiting for my maverick.
Really nice video, love the truck, great color - great tires. Would love an interior tour.
Glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for the feedback. We can for sure just do a quick interior tour for one of the upcoming videos.
Love the look of these tires. I have the stock tires on my fx4 still. I’m a nerd for the mpg as I drive a ton of hwy miles. If I didn’t though….I’d do exactly what you did. Love it.
Thanks man! I work out of a home office so my commute is zero and a small decrease in fuel economy isn’t a huge deal. Plus my Maverick is replacing a 2006 Escalade with a huge 8-cylinder that gets about 12.4 mpg. So, this is a huge improvement for me regardless of what tires I run.
Looks great! I will be getting the same size as well
Thanks for this good information. I think I'm still gonna go with BFgoodrich all-terrain KO2.
That's a great tire! I think any solid AT tire would work fine. I have an old, 2006 Escalade with AWD that I've been using as my hunting vehicle for the past several years. It does really well off road and I've just been running some Ironman ATs on that. The biggest thing is the tread pattern and compound. Granted, I like a good deal so couldn't pass up the Coopers I found, but if money were no object I might go with some Falken Wildpeaks or Maxxis. Still, I'm not sure that paying double for a tire really gets you double performance. I've had some really good luck with cheap, Goodyear all-season tires from Walmart on my family sedans.
Dang 245 65 17 looks good! I have to consider these tires. The truck looks great.
Nice addition to the Maverick! Looks great with the bigger tires..
Thanks sir!
Ford has been using the Pirrelli Scorpions on the FX4 packages for quite some time. My 2014 F150 FX4 had them, and I know for sure they continue to do so. The coopers are a great choice
I bought the Pirelli Scorpion AT Plus (not the ATRs) for the F150 I bought this spring. The tread pattern on those is a lot more aggressive than the ATRs-I’m a little surprised they call those AT tires. I’m happy with them so far but I’ve only had them 2-3 months.
I’m looking forward to your videos. I went with a F150 because I have 3 little kids to haul but would love to have a truck that gets the mpgs that the Maverick gets.
Agreed! Why Ford chose the ATRs as the "stock" tire for their "off-road package" on the Maverick is beyond me!
I'm not a big fan of the ATR's on my FX4... On a rainy road trip to FL from NC the hydroplaning was getting out of hand. The truck would almost change lanes and that was after I slowed down quite a bit from normal speeds. I'm prolly not going to go to a true off road tire but will prolly go to Michelin Cross Climate 2. I replaced a set of Pirelli on our Sorento with the Cross climates and it solved the noise and wet traction issues I had on the Kia. Watched a bunch of tire reviews on the Tubes and the Cross Climate 2 wins most of the time
I have never had Pirellis that I actually liked.
Stock ground clearance with the Pirelli tires and fx4 is 8.4”, so you actually are sitting at just shy of 9” of ground clearance with the 245’s, have at3/w on my maverick personally and I agree, the all terrains in the 245/65/17 size make a world of difference in the appearance of the maverick
I have a MAVERICK lx
AWD AND TREALER ,WITH 381 DIFIRENALS
ANY KNOW OF
18 X 7 WHEELS THAT
WILL FIT ?
Great video 🤓👍🏻
Thanks!
Thanks for the video. You mentioned you can recalibrate the computer to go from 225 to 235 tires. Do you know where I can get more info on how to do that?
Sure on the Maverick Truck Club online forum
I put some BFG trail terrain 235 / 65 R17 on my Hybrid. There pretty awesome there just the next size wider than stock. It sits nice and didn't effect the Mpg at all. Way better off road then the city tires.
Booyah 👊 😁 👍 🇺🇲
Awesome!
How's the road noise factor on these new Cooper tires? I have the same truck as yours and still in stock form.
Well, I only drove the stock tires for 135 miles so don't have a ton of experience with them. But I would say the road noise from the Cooper ATs is minimal. I mean, if I'm listening to a podcast or Spotify while driving, I'm honestly not aware of any road noise.
I had cooper ones great when new
Bro! I don’t know shit about off road, but I ordered a maverick tremor. What u think about it? Like ure vids! Thanks! I do wanna start off roading.
There are a bunch of good videos out on the Tremor. It's a nice truck! Biggest thing that holds the Maverick back are approach and departure angles. Tremor improves that a bunch in the front (approach) but still ain't a monster truck by any stretch. However, the Maverick's AWD system is very good, and the dual clutch and electronic locker on the Tremor are great additions. The Tremor will take you lots of cool places, but just won't be able to handle crazy terrain due to the overall geometry of the vehicle and all the plastic on the rocker panels and bumpers. For the price, however, I don't think you can beat it!
Please follow up with your gas mileage update on the new shoes.
I plan to do another video at some point discussing the actual driving performance of the tires and can calculate actual fuel mileage as part of that. I'll have to do it manually, since I figure the on-board computer will be a little off due to the discrepancy in tire size.
Do the new tires stick out any wider passed the fender wells/walls? Or are they pretty flush?
Stock tires are 8.9 inches wide. The new tires are 9.6 inches wide. So, the tires likely stick out half that distance wider on each side, or .35-inch on the inside and .35-inch on the outside. It's a fairly small difference, but I also installed RokBlokz mud flaps that also provide protection outside the wheel well. So, they stop any any debris that would otherwise be thrown up by the tires onto the side of the truck.
How the gap in the front with the 245? Was curious of how they are in the snow.
The gap? Not sure what you are asking, but I assume you want to know about clearance in the wheel well. There is plenty of room; no rubbing issues. As for the snow, I can't comment on that yet, because there is no snow on the ground and it's actually like mid-50s right now in Pennsylvania. I am not going to complain! I plan to do a follow-up video on tire performance soon. If we get a big snowstorm, I'll go out and drive around in it and post something.
Yes, the speedo is off for speed, but more importantly having the speedo off affects the transmission and the shift points. Which long-term, can reduce the lifespan of the transmission. Still, totally like the look with the new tires. Merci
I would like to think the transmission is basing shift point off RPMs and torque and not the number on the digital display. I'm not expert on computer programming transmissions, but I certainly am not going to lose any sleep over this. I've also tested the speedo with the new tires using my GPS and it's never off by more than 1 mph, MAYBE 2 TOPS. Again, does not seem significant to me.
I enjoyed your videos. You have a fine way of presenting.
I have a Maverick. I took delivery 10/2022. Ive put over 22k on it so far. I have enjoyed it and have only installed the tailgate damper. I have tailgate letters, but have been too lazy to put'em on. 😁 Mine is an XLT, AWD, luxury pack, FX4, copilot 360, blue. I'm going to buy the tires you bought.
I'd be especially interested in the actual mileage difference, if any you experience. And, did you experience any rubbing lock to lock?
I'll be watching 👀. Thank you sir. Joe
No rubbing. I'll update mileage in a future video but yesterday I drove about 40 miles mostly back roads averaged about 28 mpg.
@@themaverickhntr that's still awesome mpg! That's my average in the hilly community of West Salem, Oregon I live. I use my truck for work and am on I5 alot. On straight, flat stretches I can average 40mpg at 60mph. 😊 thanks for responding.
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Here's a link to my truck.
@@Sgtjfast NICE!!!!!
What do you do about the speedometer calibration with bigger diameter tires? Can you tweak the speedo program to give you accurate readings on the dash?
I did change the tire size to 235/65/17 using Forscan. That's the largest stock tire size Ford offers on the Maverick. I doubt the speedo is off much at all. I've checked it using the GPS on my phone and I'm generally getting the same reading on my phone and speedo. So honestly I'm not worried about it. It can't be off more than about 1 mph at highway speeds and less at lower speeds.
@@themaverickhntr Thanks for the feedback here. I have a '23 lariat ecoboost on order. I picked cactus gray color. If I ever actually receive it, I may upgrade the tires. Yours looks pretty sharp. Thanks for the review!
Seems like there's enough space in the wheel well to go one more size bigger. What do you think?
Lots of guys have tried. My understanding is you start to get some rubbing on the wheel well when you have the steering wheel turned all the way left of right once you start going beyond 245/65/17.
I like it with the new tires. Which color is your mavrick ?
It's Cactus Gray. As you can see in the videos, the color really changes depending on the lighting conditions.
For the recalibration on speedometer, do you need dealer or a Forscan to do it?
Not sure how to do it honestly. You can change the tire size in Forscan but only up to 235/65/17 which is the biggest stock option Ford offers. There is no way to go bigger. I'm running 245/70/17. I honestly don't know if a Ford tech could recalibrate it I just live with it being off a couple mph at highway speed.
@@themaverickhntroh yea. I asked because you mentioned you can calibrate to 235. I'm running 33" MT on my f150 and never both to recalibrate. Just go 2 mph lower
Did you say you only went up 1lb in weight per tire or did i hear wrong
I have a Hybrid one and was also thinking of getting tires just for looks not off road, any thoughts or suggestions
Why not?
I also have a Hybrid Mav. I will be going with Firestone Destination A/T2 tires in 235/65R17. They are 3 peaks and are only 3lbs heavier then the stock hybrid tires! Should be perfect for the hybrid!
Awesome
Great video. Look forward to following you. One bit of feedback would be is to either lose the background music or lower the volume. Kinda distracting.😊
Thanks. I thought I had it turned down really low while anyone was talking. I'm try to do better. Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
hey bro, do you know if it would work the 245/70/r17 with MUD Terrain tires on agency wheels?
I'm not sure what agency wheels are.
@@themaverickhntr same as yours! XLT version
@@a.az.9030 yes 245/70/17 tires will fit on the stock FX4 wheels.
Link to where you bought the FX4 stickers?
It's in the comment section of my 3 Easy Maverick Mods video
Booyah 👊 😁 👍 🇺🇲, I can't want for my Maverick Tremor XLT.
Awesome! Hope you get your truck very soon!
How is it a higher tire the wall size is 65 same as the stock tire.
Yes, 65 is stock. I put on 70s. It's a wider side wall and really beefs up the look of the truck. Fits fine no rubbing.
The ATR is all the all terrain tire most Maverick owners will ever need. Light off roading, snow, and sand is all they will ever see. They don’t design mass market vehicles for the extreme use case. If you need more, buy more.
The Aftermarket exists for that reason.
I needed more and bought more. What was your point again?
What psi did you end up running these tires with?
27-28
will these fit without any lift?
I don't. I didn't put them on without a lift. But I think so.
they look offcenter, like the rear wheel is forward 2 inches from center of hub
Looks great. Same color as mine. I have the same FX4 decals. Lol. You a hunter?
You might say that.
@@themaverickhntr I didn't even see your RUclips name until just now. Lol
Mine came with Falken Wild Peaks.
Lucky
So the stock Ford Maverick rim can handle 245/65/R17 tires? I don't understand.
The inner diameter of the tire is the same (17 inches) but the outer diameter is larger. So yes the stock wheels will accommodate no problems.
Any sort of lift?
I have since installed a lift and even larger tires. Check out my other videos.
I went with b f Goodrich
Quality tires!
The pirrelli scorpions on my FX4 i have come to dislike.
They want to hydraplane too easier for my tase.
Ill bee changing tires as soon as i can afford to.
Good call. The Pirellis are really disappointing.
It the problem on all vehicles I think the tire upgrade for Toyota with the ridge grapplers and the ford raptor having bfgs is the only trucks off the factory floor with tires your not trading out. It’s kind of embarrassing you fork out money for a new vehicle and your buying new tires right away
IDK if it is embarrassing, but definitely something you have to take into consideration. I was able to sell my take-off stock tires for a decent price, so the cost of the new AT tires was minimal. Certainly cheaper than adding the "optional" Falken Wildpeak tires Ford offeres from the factory in 235/65/17. Here I was able to go one size larger than that at a cheaper price.
I put the same tire setup on mine back in Nov 21. Same tires, paid $107 each from Walmart. Slightly noisy but handle great in all weather. You need to do a 1.5 or 2 inch front level kit from Rangerlifts to get that front end up. Made so much difference in handling and looks. The rake of the stock truck sucks. My White XL truck was totaled out in Oct 22 by a drunk driver running from police. New White fx4 on order. You have probably seen the pics of mine on the forums and FB, all black and white Stormtrooper look.
Yes, I think I do recall seeing your truck. Too bad it got whacked! Hope your new one arrives soon. I am considering a lift but won't do anything until spring. I have enough other things to get done before then it will be here before we know it. Biggest things on the immediate horizon now are a ceramic coating and undersize oil coating. I want the paint and frame protected before I start taking this thing in the snow, salt, sand, mud, etc.
An FX4 sticker and some tires do not make that a “truck” I do like it…. For people who need to run to Home Depot. An “off road” package on this thing is just warranty repairs waiting to happen. It’s a front wheel drive car based vehicle.AWD is for snow,,,,till you burn out the viscous coupling anyway
There are plenty of videos out there proving the AWD on the truck is pretty capable. Clearance is the main thing that will limit the truck but with a 2-inch lift it'll do 90 percent of what I need. And I'm willing to sacrifice the remaining 10 percent for the size, fuel economy and overall value the Maverick offers.
Speed dif of 2.5 mph more at 70
why not just use them until they wear out? seems wasteful
Because I wanted good All-Terrain tires on my truck! I sold the stock tires to someone who needed them at a great price. Nothing wasted and everyone is 😁!
Those Pirelli Scorpions are awful I can’t believe Ford uses them on an off-road package
Why don't you research "Speed Rating" on tires. I bet most people don't have a clue. Does it mean that if you drive your 118 mph Cooper tires at 120 mph, that they will explode, disintegrate? No of course not. The speed rating means that your tire will be able to maintain 118 mph for at least and hour! Who and where could you possibly do this? It is just a rating that is required by the Feds I guess. So that nobody mounts these on a Bugatti that could do it on the Autobahn!
Coopers suck Michelin are the best!
Thanks for setting me straight.
Not a truck.
Wow, I'd like to congratulate you on being the very first person to levy the highly original "not a real truck" criticism. I hope you'll stick around and follow future videos as I begin doing "truck stuff" with my fun little non-truck.
ITS ALL THE TRUCK I NEED. I HAVE A DUMP TRUCK IF I NEED ANYTHING BIGGER. GREAT LOOKING TRUCK
Karen wants to speak to the manager because it doesnt have a body on frame lol and has a unibody design. Must be a woke Chevy fan jealous they Chevy doesnt have a smaller TRUCK. Or maybe just too poor to afford one? thats probably what it is because otherwise they wouldnt have to hate on it.