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How to Win on Turn 0 in Commander / EDH | Not a Comedy Video
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2024
- What card would you name? See the comedy video featuring this combo here! • EDH VS cEDH | Magic ...
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The only correct card to name is weakness, that way you can snarkily announce that there is no weakness in your deck.
thi-this is amazing
How about "You are already dead?"
I suppose naming a banned card would work too. Just to get a reaction.
@@AngelusNielson I don't think you can name banned cards because it has to be a card that can be in your deck but I could be wrong edit:I am wrong just has to be a magic card doesn't care if you can run it or not
isn't force of will a weakness, and slaughter pact (though they would also die)
Bonus points if you name Borborygmos while having Borborygmos Enraged in the deck
lol. im sure a few people got that.... that moment was so dumb, JUDGE PLEASE....lol..that guy was like dude reallY>>???
Brutal
😂
A combo so stable that even the demonstration breaks.
Should have used storm crow
lmao
I think turn 0 wins qualify as premium jank. Unlike regular jank though, this actually ends in you winning
This includes only good cards though. So if you make a deck with these, even if you never draw the golden hand, you still have a good deck which can play the thoracle Consultation combo at any time.
Just remember to only play this in cEDH
@@denisdionigidelgrande7961 you can play the ending combo of labman/jace/thoracle and a deck remover but do not run the entire engine
In casual edh
I dont know why, but whenever i see "Not a Comedy Video" i always asume its a comedy video
Same
It always is
Also “One with Nothing” could be heard as “Won with nothing”. Even tho you had something, you had no turn so that could still be pretty funny
It always starts with a Leyline and a Mana Crypt/Gemstone Caverns, doesn't it? And it always ends with an Oracle/Jace Man/Lab Man victory.
When Flash was legal you didn't even need the mana rocks, leyline nor ad Nauseam
Yeah man these mtg youtubers should call me when they come up with a win condition that is literally anything else but alas
@@quark1010_ it's cedh. It's just supposed to win as fast as possible.
@@natebeal18 this isn't cedh at all this is a meme combo. It would get crushed in cedh
*Laughs in flash hulk*
Sweet combo turn 0 win...BUT!...if you do manage to pull this off - RUN to fill a lottery ticket!
You wasted all your luck on "Not playing a game of magic" why would you waste your money on a lottery ticket?
There is a 1 / 806,781,064,320 chance of pulling it off.
@@hunterwilliams9553 " Never tell me the odds" Han Solo, Dimir Player
For added flex, cast Phyrexian Probe and target yourself, allowing yourself to look at your own hand.
The correct card to name for this combo is “you are already dead”
Aaaand he already said that
And that is when you start playing the fist of the north star music
Opponent plays a mountain and passes. You do this. Opponent plays lightning bolt on Lab Maniac before your upkeep.
With no leyline then for a turn 1 yes that would work
I mean yo do this even before anyone plays a land
@@charuan12 people were fortunate enough to never get flash hulked to even know what turn 0 means nowadays
@@charuan12 Slaughter Pact. There's room in this grave for two.
the opponent didnt even start while he was doing that move, so ...
One thing to mention. If you want to do this combo on turn zero you can’t use jace. Or you could but you would still have to use g probe because you can’t activate his planeswalker abilities at instant speed
Since green is not in your color identity, you can name Hashep Oasis with Demonic Consultation and the combo still works.
Why wouldn't you run Hashep Oasis? It gives a +3/+3!
Funnily enough, this is all because of how efficient Demonic Consultation is as a combo piece and how absurdly busted the 0 cost mana rocks are. Like genuinely, 0 mana rocks kinda break open games for people. Ad Nauss is also just strictly one of the best draw spells in the entire game the higher your power level is, since you'll be running 0-3 mana spells as a much higher majority to get your fuel burning.
As a word of warning, do make sure your playgroup wants to play this way. Stuffing hyper efficient two card combos like Consultation Thoraccle into your deck leads to more anti-climactic games if the table isn't built around engaging with the stack in meaningful ways. Just shoving a combo like that onto the stack and hoping it resolves isn't always going to be fun for you or the table. Whereas playing a essentially a cold war game with interaction like counterspells and cantrips fits this style of play more.
To be fair you can create a similar start with "Oona, Queen of the fae" in the command zone and fish for "isochron Scepter" and "dramatic reversal". Than Oona exiles everybody's decks. Its not just a problem with thassaconsult. The 0 cost mana rocks are the real culprit for such a fast win.
@@johanhi2 but that's what I said. Consultation just happens to be hyper efficient, allowing this to be much less strict as well. Granted dramatic scepter is the same mana value as shown in the video, Thoracle is 1 cheaper for the same effect. Meaning you only need to dig down with ad nauss for one rock instead of two.
The cold war approach to a game is what my table sometimes does - no interaction at all, everyone building a board and no one daring to attack because they'll open themselves up.
I have doomsday, thassa, and demonic consultation all in my deck and I sub them out to make my deck significantly less competitive
Should of named “Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar”
just to flex on your opponents.
Fun fact: I can actualy say that word at full speed
There's a much simpler one, you "just" need the Leyline, Oracle, Consultation, Petal, Opal, and either Chrome+NonLand or Diamond+Land
Funny enough you can pull it with only 6 cards by allowing silver border, using Jack-in-the-mox, but only 1/3rd of the time
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"Commence the Endgame" is without a doubt the best card to name.
I would pact of negation that combo every time knowing I lose on my turn. Worth it lmao
Why wouldn’t you just force of will and stay alive? Doesn’t seem like ur thought process is working my guy 😂
@@smurffy5330 It’s to make a point
*is playing urza and has a way to get 5 mana on my turn * or do I lose 😂
@@reverbstarlight3405 it was a terrible point 😂 ya not using ya brain 🥸
@@smurffy5330 No, no, he’s got a point.
7:00 Storm crow as a replacement for Baleful Strix in the demonstration would've been a funny reference here :d
this is exactly how long my opponents turns are every single time
I like how this only works if you hit the essential cards with ad nauseum without dying
The rest of my deck is lands or 0 drops specifically to not take damage and at that point i dont need the consultation I just pull my entire deck into my hand using ad nauseum lolz
I always name black lotus to demonic consultation
Imagine if someone else just has a force of will in hand waiting. Lmao
You just described an average cEDH game
With the perfect 15 cards on top of your deck you can win on turn 0
Exactly!
Wouldn’t it be much easier to not have to rely on the ad nauseum, if opening hand was Leyline, mox opal, lotus Petal, Thassa’s Oracle, demonic consultation, mox Diamond, land
Yup, that would work even better.
Yeah that is actually an obtainable hand unlike this video tutorial.
that's a seven card hand, his combo is a 6 card initial hand so you have room for a pact of negation.
this is why i always play force of despair in my mono black decks. imagine someone being so lucky as to play out this sequence, then as they go to snoop my hand, you pitch a black card to play force before the card draw resolves.
I love how your passion for the game comes out. Great video!
another simple combo is to imprint dramatic reversal on a Isochron scepter.
mana crypt > sol ring > Mox opal, 1 floating from sol ring + 1 from mox opal > Scepter, tap sol ring to use and have infinite colored mana. you can then use Folio of Fancies to draw your entire deck but 1, play lab maniac, then scepter untaps the folio to draw more to win.
It does allow the opponent to draw their entire deck, but it also lets you draw and use any counter spells if they try to force of will or lightning bolt kill your plan. Plus, it can be mono blue now instead! Also takes the perfect 7 card hand though.
Mtg needs format for 1 turn win decks, so players who love those have their own "special place" In this format players can start with any cards of their choice in starting hands, since both players use 1 turn win combo everything would be decided by roll of a dice. Awesome!
wouldnt really be decided by a die roll because each player would have instant speed everything and so would be able to respond to the other player's combo, finding counterspells and so on.
There's actually no ruling that you need to name a card that's legal in the format, just that it's an actual magic card. Therefore, you can search for a Half-kitten, Half, for instance
I'm not sure. If it's this way, why can't you name Pot of Greed or your own credit card?
@@thenumberpie314 Because neither are actual magic cards
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Unless I missed it, you could feasibly win without casting Gitaxian Probe by simply moving to your un-taken draw step.
True, you could do that. If your opponent is on the play though then they might be able to do something if they get to take a turn. If you are on the play though, then it makes sense to just go to the draw step.
It also doesn’t count as winning on turn 0
@@8thPlaceDave Oh man, I think I misunderstood. You've got this combo setup to work no matter the turn order. Holy smokes. Outstanding work!
@@8thPlaceDave yup, all they need is a basic plains and a path, unless you play first it is still not a guaranteed win
@@themasterprocrastinator no, since you have leyline of anticipation you’re playing all of this at instant speed on your opponent’s turn, before you even draw, so nobody is going to be interacting lmao
Thank you for reading the card effects off makes it easier when I'm not paying attention to the screen to still follow along.
Imagine having this as your opening hand. Your opponent draws their 7. Mulligans draws again mulligans draws again and decides to just concede.
Another flavorful card to name with Consultation is the long-standing but now superceded first card in the MTGO library "Abandon Hope."
Play Phage as your commander. Play Swamp, Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crpyt, Sol Ring = Cast Phage = Lose game on first turn before opponent has turn. They win on turn 0.
This was great. I’ll be sure to replicate this soon in one of my own games.
next challenge:
how to win the next game without even play
There's a great video about One With Nothing being Magic's best worst card. I like to go back and watch it from time to time. It's got a hilarious combo for losing the game turn one that also includes naming a card not in your deck to exile everything.
Of all my time playing chrome mox I never knew it was non artifact really bad case of never reading the card wonder if I ever missplayed that
Me too, until I made this video haha.
12k subscribers!!! I was here at 1k, good videos man
"I'm not here to play Magic, I'm here to play Monopoly."
"Does this go through?"
You could just play angels grace and pick up your entire deck with ad nauseam. Instead of consultation.
You could also play lightning storm as a backup win con then.
lol, geezus, slow burn and well worth the wait. Dave got me again.
The joke is in the post post credits scene.
@@8thPlaceDave the credits are always the perfect denouement
Now all we have to do is to calculate what's more likely. This combo or winning the lottery and just paying your opponent to concede.
I can’t help but laugh at how insane this is haha
Nice video. I was thinking the other day.. I wonder how many people remember what Thassa's Oracle does if you don't win the game. lol
"We only need 6 specific cards for this combo" This is a premium joke right there.
I used to name Didn't Say Please, on Arena, when I played Sorcerer's Spyglass against decks with nothing relevant to name or in games where I had lethal on board and the opponent wasn't conceding.
How to win on turn 0: Have lots and lots of money
“That shot was one in a million kid”
"I name weakness. Weakness is not in my deck!"
My favorite cards to name with Consultation is the new one from Kamigawa:
You Are Already Dead
I would name "charging badger" the most powerful card in the whole game
Looks a pretty consistent strategy 😂.
10:22 I named "Alpha BGS 10 Black Lotus".
Thoracle is actually MUCH better than the other deck out win cards, because it checks as an etb trigger, and checks for >= devotion. This means that you can cast Thoracle, let priorities pass, and if it resolves, you can demonic consultation on the stack, on top of the Thoracle etb trigger.
Because Thoracle wins on devotion = 0, if your deck has no cards, kill spells and removal don't work, unlike with lab man and Jace. This means that the only way to stop this combo is through a counterspell. However, even then it isn't always clear what to counter. If the Thoracle is countered for example, you never had to reveal that you had a forbidden tutor in the first place. If the forbidden tutor is countered, in the worst case Thoracle still gets small value, in the best case you had another one to play.
The truth is, if they can pull it off they deserve it.
Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation are pretty easy to play at any point in the game. Make sure you play this combo only in cEDH. If other players aren't ready to stop you or play equally efficient combos, you'll just pubstomp them.
@@denisdionigidelgrande7961 If you're playing with a group that is OK with the mana vault then this combo is probably OK. Just saying.
@@denisdionigidelgrande7961 to be fair if you have any skill in the game then you would pubstomp people with bad decks if all of the decks are near the same power level simply becasue you understand the game better than them
Lol I love the idea of naming "You Are Already Dead"
1:47 Mana Crypt does not cost 0. It costs a kidney. 😂
Good luck finding friends who want to play magic with you XD
I was waiting for the joke the whole video😂
Love this
The other perfect starting hand for this would be Leyline, mana crypt, sol ring, mox opal, dimir signet, oracle, and consultation. Getting this hand would be pretty dang lucky though lol
I don't think this has been pointed out, but you can't win turn 0 with Jace because it's not your turn so you can't activate his loyalty ability.
Jaces win condition is static. But no draw from him that turn
In the same vein as Humility, you could name Guilty Conscience - "Just to be clear, I don't feel bad about this at all"
Shenanigans. Always name Shenanigans.
Another way to win with the 6 mana is a bolas Citadel and have a pile of top deck tutors in your deck and get lucky.
When resolving Demonic Consultation I name banned cards, i.e. Black Lotus.
The spirit of edh is to play a deck where your commander is meaningless beyond it's color pips.
I recommend void wing hybrid in Lieu of strix as it’s the same cost, has toxic and can be returned from graveyard with proliferation. It’s a 2/1 with flying but doesn’t have death touch
Totally reasonable thing to pull of an a game of regular commander. You dont need to stack the deck to win. Have an opening hand of...
Leyline of anticipation
Mana crypt
Mox opal
Dark ritual
Lotus petal
Ad nausium
Angels grace
Have in deck
Crome mox
Mox diamond
Thassas oracle
Cast you hand and draw you whole deck, win on the spot.
At 2:24, there's another line of play that can win the game. If you tap sol ring to cast Dimir Signet, then use the (1) floating to tap it for (U)(B), then tap Opal for (U), you can cast Thoracle/Demonic Consultation and win.
But it takes the PERFECT opening hand...
10:10 NANI?! Also I always name Arcane Flight, look at that funny cat!
Brushwagg tho
The real winner is the player who slaughter pacts the lab maniac and loses on their turn.
One suggestion would be to edit in the full card art as they show up that way your explanation of the cards remains smooth for those familiar and those unfamiliar can pause and read
The correct card to name is Borborygmos, because you should always name Borborygmos.
10/10 joke
Name "You are already dead" lmao
I did this in my RogSi CEDH deck with leyline, mana crypt, simian spirit guide, jeska's will, twinflame, dualcaster and grapeshot
the best way to win on turn 0 is to bring stax to the table. you win (lose?) before an opening hand even gets drawn
My friend plays a Sidisi dack and has achieved this before, actually he's done it a few times... my friend might be cheating
AT least the game didn't last that long and you can start a new one?
Your friend is just pubstomping. Either bring any deck you can find on the cEDH Database or ask him to bring more casual decks.
of course you have to use the ancient magic to pull this off
And this combo only costs one entire home mortgage!
Using Jace instead of lab man isn't a turn 0 win anymore, though, because you would have to wait until the first main phase to activate his +1 so you would already win in your draw step instead.
I’d draw that nuts hand then get my probe countered and turn one swords my lab maniac
I love to either name Primal Empathy or just an opponent commander. Both I think are just funny.
I'd name a banned card just in case the opponents don't catch the subtle joke of card naming
People are sleeping on chancellors.
Leyline of anticipation, lotus pedal, mana crypt, show and tell, omniscience, enter the infinite, Thassa's Oracle. You wouldnt even have to search or do anything, you could just play those 7 in a row turn 0 and win.
Leylile of anticipation, Lotus Petal(artifact land), mox opal, some other mox(artifact land), thassas Oracle, discard/Exile/extra slot and demonic consultation for another T0 kill
what are the other cards in your deck just in case you don't draw these 6 cards at the beginning
Could you drop a deck list?
this deck is called "go home", because if you played this combo and won first turn like that, everyone at the table would tell you to go home. And the combo is so specific and so difficult to pull off in "competitive" commander that no one would bother as you'd almost never win due to how difficult the combo would be to pull off consistently enough to win most of the time.
So you name Borborygmos as a cadence to the ruling change on "naming a card"
Interesting content!
i'd name the winged dragon of ra, just to then actually reveal him and win the game with him
i like to name "didnt say please"
Naming brushwagg means the deck should be called brushwaggs revenge :D
Would this combo work with the effect of "Leveler" instead of "Demonic consultation"? All u ll need is 4 more colorless mana