I freaking love Groose. He may seem like a lot of talk at first, but he’s got skills to back it up (granted it appears later). He was able to analyze how Link’s fight with the Imprisoned went, and how he might be able to help in an area Link was lacking in. This shows he is tactically adept. He also built the solution himself, showing he is great at planning and construction. I’d like to also mention that the Groosinator (fantastic name by the way) moves along the tracks with the pull of a lever. Groose straight up made a makeshift engine for his catapult. The closest thing I can see to having an engine is Beedle’s Shop Ship, and his is pedal powered. Groose just had to pull a lever to move. Man’s a mechanical genius. He managed to cultivate massive Bomb Flowers, and safely nonetheless. This shows that Groose can be careful when he needs to, seeing as he isn’t a splatter of limbs across the sacred ground. On top of all this, though the most obvious, the man is *built*. From what we can see in the game, he is very large, has training equipment in his room (as well as a punching bag with Link’s face on it), and hurls large bird eggs at Link during the race with impressive accuracy considering the speed at which they are flying. He also catches Zelda as she falls right before the final fight, getting there in the knick of time, and ensures she lands somewhat safely. Something we don’t see but can justly assume is that he built his tracks by hand himself, no outside help. Those large planks of wood for supports? That was him. The rails for the tracks? Forged by him. Getting the Groosinator restocked for another round quickly? Groose again. TLDR: Groose is a machine in his own right, may not have some of the skills Link does, but he has a plethora of his own that he executes well.
Gotta love the power he has on his own, even if his general intelligence can be easily underestimated due to how dumb he comes across as. You know what this says? We must see their power!
not to mention, he's only ever picking on link simply because he works hard and link doesn't. once link "proves himself" to groose, he only ever helps and supports link.
@@SandevistanSacrament Only because Mido didn’t recognize adult Link. In the manga Link believes they’ll only be friends as long as he doesn’t tell Mido that he’s the same boy he used to bully.
one of the things i liked about groose was how he wasnt just some steriotypical, one dimensional bully character who existed soley to get the opoening tutorial started and then disappear for the rest of the game. he actually had his own impact on the story and character arc where he learned that the world doesnt revolve around him, but that doesnt mean he cant still do good
Personally I believe that Groose does return to the surface after the game and gets very busy, starting a line that one day develops into the Gerudo, a people bearing his signature yellow eyes and red hair. The Groose does indeed get loose.
It was super fun to watch PointCrow play this game for the first time. First being like "who the heck is this jerk? People love him? Why?" But then ending up LOVING HIM like we all do :3
Great video! Loved how you called out Groose's reaction to Impa's passing. I've been wondering about Impa's cloak while replaying the game, and while watching this video it suddenly clicked: when Groose goes back in time, right after Impa thanks him, he starts talking about the old lady they left behind. You can see emotion flicker across Impa's face for a moment. She must have been moved by his concern for her older self-ages later, she's wearing that red cloak as a tribute to his hair!
Ongoing throughout the entire game in fact any time “the old one” is mentioned we see young Impa look contemplative or turning away. It’s such a great detail.
Wonder how many other people noticed that Groose looks similar to the Gerudo and likely founded their Tribe. He shares their Red Hair and Ganondorf's Yellow Eyes. And the Country he wanted to Found "Grooseland" could easily morph into Gerudo over enough time, as Groose could evolve into Geruso, and then Gerudo. It's also worth noting that he and his friends head in the direction of the Lanryu desert which could be the foundations of the Gerudo desert. Would be awfully ironic that Demise's Curse extended to Groose's descendants to be the host for his reincarnation Ganondorf.
I think that's the case (I agree on everything but I'm talking more particularly about the curse) because the trait befitting Groose the most is strenth, not only physical but also how hard he works and persevere, so sadly since Demise couldn't reach Zelda or Link directly with his curse I think it fell upon Groose and his descendants.
Groose certainly knocked me for a loop on my first playthrough. First I rolled my eyes, "Really, we have a Gaston archetype?" Then he follows to the surface and I remember being a little angry at this dolt who's gonna fet himself killed. Then the Groosinator happened and all I could do was grin. To quote Goku to the gag character during the final battle of DBZ, "Way to go champ! You really are a hero!"
@@mchanna06 Groose would ending up becoming Hyrule's savior, taking Link's spot. I'm not downplaying Link or anything of the sort, but Groose is just THAT good!
With all the connections people have been trying make between Skyward Sword and TotK, I kind of wish we got to learn a bit more about the Gerudo’s history during Riju’s quest, possibly giving some hints at the theory of Groose being one of their earliest ancestors.
It’s interesting food for thought that there’s a theory where groose is the original ancestor of the gerudo people. The more you think about it, the more it fits perfectly
Good hypothesis, but I believe that by the time of OoT Gerudo are NOT Hylian, because of the rounded ears. By BotW, after thousands of years of race mixing they aquire the pointed ears.
Groose's character arc was also as much him learning about how difficult it is to have courage in face of the unknown and that Link's boundless bravery is what makes him a hero.
Okay, okay, i've never played Skyward Sword, but damn. Groose is already one of my favourite Zelda characters, after seeing all the cutscenes of him and this video. Excellent character writing.
So I just beat skyward sword today (late ik) and I guarantee nothing could have prepared me for groose’s character development in this game. And at the climax, when he saved Zelda, my jaw LITERALLY dropped. What an amazing character. Sometimes I do wish this was called the legend of groose tho.
i know how it feels to see someone who put little to no effort in what they do being way better than you it sucks so that is why even when i was playing as link I always related more to groose because admitting that you cannot do anything about it but to push yourself and do what you can actually do is hard
You missed something… Grimpa. Don’t tell me they don’t get it on while Link is away. It’s fact and canon becuase elderly Impa gives birth to the first Ganondorf. Nintendo told me. But seriously, good work. Loved this one, love the Groose.
Where do you think Gerudos get their dark skin and fabulous red hair? Grimpa is the most epic tale of start crossed (time crosse??) lovers in all of Hyrule's history.
Considering the game was a sort if origin story I thought they were going to have Demise turn him into Ganondorf in the game. I'm glad they didn't take that route.
absolutely wonderful video! loved every second of it! groose is one of my favorite characters of all time and this analysis was so well-written! and link's name being "Burger" gave me a couple of good chuckles
I love Groose 💚 He really does have such a good character arc!! Your analysis was well supported and spot-on 👍🏼 I agree that we can all learn something from his character ☺️ great video!!
If skyward sword ever got the manga treatment, I bet it would flesh out groose and link relationship, like it did for link's character in the twilight princess manga
@@CaptBurgerson A hopeful conjecture, but a conjecture nonetheless. It’s really based upon speculative implications. He’s the only character with yellow eyes and red hair, as well as he is seen flying off towards the lanaryu desert. It’s probably all just coincidence, but my head Groosenator likes to believe so.
@Puftendo I hear you. Headcanon is fine, but I must confess that it irks me when people present their theories or headcanons as if they were fact. (Not directing that at you specifically; just saying in general)
Thanks I think haha. I have streamed Prime 1 and yes I did read out all the log entries haha. Planning to stream Prime 2 and 3 after finishing up Dread on stream! Will read the logs, I promise.
Don't you just hate it when that happens? Having someone so good and hardworking, ironically, be the progenitor of pure evil? Ganondorf is just so evil. Trust me. In Tears Of The Kingdom, he murders Queen Sonia, and he literally laughs at Zelda's grief over the loss of her new mother figure. He is simply incapable of being a good person, whereas Groose, his alleged ancestor, certainly has good in him. It's a tragedy that such a good character like Groose would unintentionally give rise to such a horrible person like Ganondorf..
Yeah, definitely the ancestor to all gerudo. I don’t understand any of the comments saying groose is.. a version of ganondorf. That I don’t get. He’s far away from him on the family tree, he just seems to have very strong genes
@cradiculous , no, I did know that. I didn't know who Groose was, though, until I saw gamer Andrew Collette from The Andrew Collette Show's 100% Skyward Sword game. Heck, it's only thanks to Andrew and BanditGames that I know anything about the Zelda franchise, what with having never played a Nintendo game in my life. Trust me, I've been without a Nintendo my whole life, with only an Xbox. RUclips is the closest I've ever gotten to experiencing the games sadly enough. I might have to change that one day if I ever get a Nintendo..
Some say that Midna is the best side character of Zelda franchise. I disagree. Midna is one of the MAIN characters, not side characters. And therefore, Groose takes the cake of the best side character.
So basically, he was told you can't be the hero because of chosen one shenanigans. Sounds like a bad message to send to your people by saying "only the chosen one can really do anything". Why not just empower everyone? Sounds like the goddesses have a boner for Link, at the expense of everyone elses chance to shine much. It's why I never care much for stories in Zelda. Link being so "gifted" leaves me being "blegh".
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Later Groose would go on an epic quest of his own to bring light to the darkness. Whereby he would finally forge the Master Torch.
Well this is now my head-canon
@@LifeIsAHighwayIAmACarCrash *Head Groosinator
Your chicken majora pfp 😭😭
I freaking love Groose. He may seem like a lot of talk at first, but he’s got skills to back it up (granted it appears later). He was able to analyze how Link’s fight with the Imprisoned went, and how he might be able to help in an area Link was lacking in.
This shows he is tactically adept. He also built the solution himself, showing he is great at planning and construction. I’d like to also mention that the Groosinator (fantastic name by the way) moves along the tracks with the pull of a lever. Groose straight up made a makeshift engine for his catapult. The closest thing I can see to having an engine is Beedle’s Shop Ship, and his is pedal powered. Groose just had to pull a lever to move. Man’s a mechanical genius.
He managed to cultivate massive Bomb Flowers, and safely nonetheless. This shows that Groose can be careful when he needs to, seeing as he isn’t a splatter of limbs across the sacred ground.
On top of all this, though the most obvious, the man is *built*. From what we can see in the game, he is very large, has training equipment in his room (as well as a punching bag with Link’s face on it), and hurls large bird eggs at Link during the race with impressive accuracy considering the speed at which they are flying. He also catches Zelda as she falls right before the final fight, getting there in the knick of time, and ensures she lands somewhat safely.
Something we don’t see but can justly assume is that he built his tracks by hand himself, no outside help. Those large planks of wood for supports? That was him. The rails for the tracks? Forged by him. Getting the Groosinator restocked for another round quickly? Groose again.
TLDR: Groose is a machine in his own right, may not have some of the skills Link does, but he has a plethora of his own that he executes well.
Gotta love the power he has on his own, even if his general intelligence can be easily underestimated due to how dumb he comes across as. You know what this says? We must see their power!
not to mention, he's only ever picking on link simply because he works hard and link doesn't. once link "proves himself" to groose, he only ever helps and supports link.
If Ocarina of Time had been developped one decade later, I swear Mido would have gone through an evolution as remarkable as Groose's
If you read the manga he sorta does, in which he aids link in the fight against phantom ganon and becomes great friends with him
@@SandevistanSacrament to bad we don't see that development in the actual game ☹
@@SandevistanSacrament Only because Mido didn’t recognize adult Link. In the manga Link believes they’ll only be friends as long as he doesn’t tell Mido that he’s the same boy he used to bully.
@javeydones5163 Yes, but it is still Link all the same. Also, I'm glad to see someone who likes the manga as well!
one of the things i liked about groose was how he wasnt just some steriotypical, one dimensional bully character who existed soley to get the opoening tutorial started and then disappear for the rest of the game. he actually had his own impact on the story and character arc where he learned that the world doesnt revolve around him, but that doesnt mean he cant still do good
Personally I believe that Groose does return to the surface after the game and gets very busy, starting a line that one day develops into the Gerudo, a people bearing his signature yellow eyes and red hair. The Groose does indeed get loose.
So he also becomes the ancestor of Ganondorf in the future. What a great mess of a lineage he's got there..
@@dafilmqueen556 Well he can hardly be blamed if his offspring gets involved in a spat between Link and Demise.
@@2goodsharks, I know, that's what makes it sad that he has his lineage give rise to such an evil guy..
While I heavily disagree with theory I’ll admit it’s an interesting idea, also it’s freaking hilarious
It was super fun to watch PointCrow play this game for the first time. First being like "who the heck is this jerk? People love him? Why?" But then ending up LOVING HIM like we all do :3
Great video! Loved how you called out Groose's reaction to Impa's passing. I've been wondering about Impa's cloak while replaying the game, and while watching this video it suddenly clicked: when Groose goes back in time, right after Impa thanks him, he starts talking about the old lady they left behind. You can see emotion flicker across Impa's face for a moment. She must have been moved by his concern for her older self-ages later, she's wearing that red cloak as a tribute to his hair!
Ongoing throughout the entire game in fact any time “the old one” is mentioned we see young Impa look contemplative or turning away. It’s such a great detail.
holy shit
@@CaptBurgerson truly ! I see it everytime now !
Wonder how many other people noticed that Groose looks similar to the Gerudo and likely founded their Tribe. He shares their Red Hair and Ganondorf's Yellow Eyes. And the Country he wanted to Found "Grooseland" could easily morph into Gerudo over enough time, as Groose could evolve into Geruso, and then Gerudo.
It's also worth noting that he and his friends head in the direction of the Lanryu desert which could be the foundations of the Gerudo desert.
Would be awfully ironic that Demise's Curse extended to Groose's descendants to be the host for his reincarnation Ganondorf.
I think that's the case (I agree on everything but I'm talking more particularly about the curse) because the trait befitting Groose the most is strenth, not only physical but also how hard he works and persevere, so sadly since Demise couldn't reach Zelda or Link directly with his curse I think it fell upon Groose and his descendants.
Even then, he still gained other potential descendants like Urbosa and Riju, who would follow in his footsteps to help their own incarnation of Link.
And like all gerudo men, he is a chad
Groose certainly knocked me for a loop on my first playthrough. First I rolled my eyes, "Really, we have a Gaston archetype?" Then he follows to the surface and I remember being a little angry at this dolt who's gonna fet himself killed. Then the Groosinator happened and all I could do was grin. To quote Goku to the gag character during the final battle of DBZ, "Way to go champ! You really are a hero!"
The fact that he wasn’t included in Hyrule warriors 1 will haunt me forever!
I was gonna ask how he would fight in a game like that but then I remembered that they included Agitha so anything goes really haha.
@@CaptBurgerson he could have use the groosenator !
@@CaptBurgersondude studied in a knight academy
They didn't include hem because he's so strong the game would be too easy.
@@mchanna06 Groose would ending up becoming Hyrule's savior, taking Link's spot. I'm not downplaying Link or anything of the sort, but Groose is just THAT good!
I hope they bring him back again the the future series. He was definitely my favorite side character in the game. He was too funny man.
Agreed. I hate how Nintendo will create great characters like Groose and Midna and basically never use them again in any meaningful way.
With all the connections people have been trying make between Skyward Sword and TotK, I kind of wish we got to learn a bit more about the Gerudo’s history during Riju’s quest, possibly giving some hints at the theory of Groose being one of their earliest ancestors.
At least a reincarnation of him.
Grooses’ theme goes with everything
Bruh whenever it said “Burger” instead of “Link” I’d just bust out laughing
It me
It’s interesting food for thought that there’s a theory where groose is the original ancestor of the gerudo people. The more you think about it, the more it fits perfectly
Good hypothesis, but I believe that by the time of OoT Gerudo are NOT Hylian, because of the rounded ears. By BotW, after thousands of years of race mixing they aquire the pointed ears.
We need The Legend of Groose!
Groose's character arc was also as much him learning about how difficult it is to have courage in face of the unknown and that Link's boundless bravery is what makes him a hero.
Groose is such a great character! I'm glad you chose to analyze him :)
Okay, okay, i've never played Skyward Sword, but damn. Groose is already one of my favourite Zelda characters, after seeing all the cutscenes of him and this video. Excellent character writing.
The forefather of the Gerudo... and the unwilling vessel of Demise's curse.
Oh god I hope he isn’t who Ganondorf is supposed to be that would be beyond f*cked up
I love the specialty of the implications
So I just beat skyward sword today (late ik) and I guarantee nothing could have prepared me for groose’s character development in this game. And at the climax, when he saved Zelda, my jaw LITERALLY dropped.
What an amazing character.
Sometimes I do wish this was called the legend of groose tho.
I played this game, Groos redemption arc. my god. I don't care if people say this is the worst Zelda game ever made, this game was amazing.
I think it's one of the worst 3D zeldas but still a great game and after Midna Groose is the best Zelda char
i know how it feels to see someone who put little to no effort in what they do being way better than you it sucks so that is why even when i was playing as link I always related more to groose because admitting that you cannot do anything about it but to push yourself and do what you can actually do is hard
Im glad this game confirms Good Guy Ganon via Groose in this title!
How could you
@@CaptBurgerson LOOK AT THE HAIR! #confirmed 😂💇
You missed something… Grimpa. Don’t tell me they don’t get it on while Link is away. It’s fact and canon becuase elderly Impa gives birth to the first Ganondorf. Nintendo told me.
But seriously, good work. Loved this one, love the Groose.
GRIMPA
I can’t express the wide range of things I felt reading that.
Cheers to GRIMPA
Where do you think Gerudos get their dark skin and fabulous red hair?
Grimpa is the most epic tale of start crossed (time crosse??) lovers in all of Hyrule's history.
the greatest zelda theory of all time is that Groose is the ancestor of the Gerudo people
Considering the game was a sort if origin story I thought they were going to have Demise turn him into Ganondorf in the game. I'm glad they didn't take that route.
absolutely wonderful video! loved every second of it! groose is one of my favorite characters of all time and this analysis was so well-written! and link's name being "Burger" gave me a couple of good chuckles
"The Groose is loose." You cannot begin to fathom how inappropriate that sounds under a different context.
One day I want to see his descendant... Doose
And don’t forget about Moose
It's all up to you now Burger
I like to imagine that groose becomes gondo's apprentice and eventually surpasses him as an inventor, settles down and becomes complete in life
This channel is pitifully underrated. Can everyone please share it!???!!
His lackies remind me of the health inspectors from Bob's Burgers.
I love Groose 💚 He really does have such a good character arc!! Your analysis was well supported and spot-on 👍🏼 I agree that we can all learn something from his character ☺️ great video!!
I LOVE groose, such a wonderful character. Great video!!! I love seeing you upload!! :DD
If skyward sword ever got the manga treatment, I bet it would flesh out groose and link relationship, like it did for link's character in the twilight princess manga
If we ever get a Zelda movie, groose should be voiced by Patrick Warburton!
Ah, a video on The Legend of Groose: Skyward Sword.
Will always be one of my favorite games from my childhood!
There’s another reason Groose couldn’t be the hero. Man is built way too juicy to fit in those crawl spaces.
The man, the legend--GROOSE.
Excellent work here. I'm doing a video right now about Groose and mental health and I am going to cite you with some of your points. Great video!
Groose is the first Gerudo. At the end of the game he flies off towards the desert
Conjecture
@@CaptBurgerson A hopeful conjecture, but a conjecture nonetheless. It’s really based upon speculative implications. He’s the only character with yellow eyes and red hair, as well as he is seen flying off towards the lanaryu desert. It’s probably all just coincidence, but my head Groosenator likes to believe so.
@Puftendo I hear you. Headcanon is fine, but I must confess that it irks me when people present their theories or headcanons as if they were fact.
(Not directing that at you specifically; just saying in general)
The fact this guy never made a reappearance as either a reincarnation or even as much as a reference to his existence is borderline fucked
Well skyward sword is the third newest Zelda game, so we haven’t had many true opportunities
Man, this video needs more likes
Groose is such a great character! I just wish his eyes and lips weren’t a weird color 😳
You’re criticizing the great groose’s design, talk to me the next time you’ve seen the ears of Zelda
Goose theme is loosely based on the Giant Theme by Richard Wagner. I guess this was intentional.
Giant theme for the giant ego lol
*Groosely* based*
Groose is somthing to strive to be.
He is my favorite character
You need more subscribers man, this is some s-tier content!
I love Groose. And I love Ghirahim beating him up.
I love your stuff. A part of me wants Metroid videos now. You reading Prime 1 and 2 logs in that sexy voice is what the world needs
Thanks I think haha.
I have streamed Prime 1 and yes I did read out all the log entries haha. Planning to stream Prime 2 and 3 after finishing up Dread on stream! Will read the logs, I promise.
@@CaptBurgerson
Yes!!!
He is the first gerudo so it works really well
Every time I hear ELO's "Don't Bring me Down," I imagine it's about Groose. Seriously, go listen to it 😂
The Legend of Groose, Father of the Gerudo.
Outstanding video, sir.
I bet if Demise didn’t curse Zelda and Link he would have gotten the tri force of power instead of Ganondorf
8:48 does it remind anyone else of cia and lana
Genuinely curious because I don’t see it… what is it that reminds you of them?
@@CaptBurgerson lana and cia are for link what groose is for zelda
I also love groose.
Amazing video! Never knew all of this since I haven't played skyward sword myself. Fuckin' love Groose lol
I see Groose and Ghirahim but no Fi????? I'd love to see one on her!!!
I thought there was a joke theory floating around that groose eventually made his way to the gerudo desert and became the father of the gerudo. 🤷♀️
I’ve heard said theory, but this video is about his actual character arc in the game, not a theory video.
It’s not a joke theory, it’s a normal theory
You named link, BURGER?
It me
@@CaptBurgerson oh
I think groose is the ancester of ganondorf they look a lot alike except ganondorf is green but idk it’s up to the fandom
Don't you just hate it when that happens? Having someone so good and hardworking, ironically, be the progenitor of pure evil? Ganondorf is just so evil. Trust me. In Tears Of The Kingdom, he murders Queen Sonia, and he literally laughs at Zelda's grief over the loss of her new mother figure. He is simply incapable of being a good person, whereas Groose, his alleged ancestor, certainly has good in him. It's a tragedy that such a good character like Groose would unintentionally give rise to such a horrible person like Ganondorf..
Yeah, definitely the ancestor to all gerudo. I don’t understand any of the comments saying groose is.. a version of ganondorf. That I don’t get. He’s far away from him on the family tree, he just seems to have very strong genes
@@dafilmqueen556 You only just now realized Ganondorf's evil? The guy's been bringing ruin everywhere he goes for decades
@cradiculous , no, I did know that. I didn't know who Groose was, though, until I saw gamer Andrew Collette from The Andrew Collette Show's 100% Skyward Sword game. Heck, it's only thanks to Andrew and BanditGames that I know anything about the Zelda franchise, what with having never played a Nintendo game in my life. Trust me, I've been without a Nintendo my whole life, with only an Xbox. RUclips is the closest I've ever gotten to experiencing the games sadly enough. I might have to change that one day if I ever get a Nintendo..
While i can see Groose is possibly the ancestor of the Gerudo idk about being a reincarnation of Ganondorf but maybe Demise cursed his bloodline
g r e a t e s t y o u t u b e c h a n n e l e v e r
He couldn't of done it without Shigeru Miyamoto's help.
@@Bobby-Dingers I know. Crazy how Daniel always has Miyamoto on speed dial
Some say that Midna is the best side character of Zelda franchise. I disagree. Midna is one of the MAIN characters, not side characters. And therefore, Groose takes the cake of the best side character.
Realistically link has the biggest character ark in this game.
Groove Groose Goose play On The Loose by Niall Horan 😂🤣🥰😍❤️
I wonder if Robbie is someone descended from Groose. I mean, they even have the hair.
Hahaha, love this
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@@CaptBurgersonthe auto-generated stuff in the Description lists the video as Breath of the Wild
For me the auto-generated title is the original NES Legend of Zelda. My favorite game with Groose.
It's good, but the best? Byrne the heretic!
So basically, he was told you can't be the hero because of chosen one shenanigans.
Sounds like a bad message to send to your people by saying "only the chosen one can really do anything". Why not just empower everyone? Sounds like the goddesses have a boner for Link, at the expense of everyone elses chance to shine much. It's why I never care much for stories in Zelda. Link being so "gifted" leaves me being "blegh".
I've said it time and time again, Groose has the best character arc in Skyward Sword, and possibly all of Zelda as a series.