Love Tai Lung. Even though I prefer the second movie overall to the first and think that Lord Shen is also a fantastic and somewhat complex villain, I definitely related more to Tai Lung. I find it interesting that both Shen and Tai Lung had complicated relationships with their parents. We don't get to see much of Shen's parents, but the fact that he was surprised and betrayed that they reacted with horror to his panda slaughter makes me think they failed to give him any lessons in morality and simply spoiled him (He was essentially nobility after all).
I'm really annoyed at myself because I've forgotten the second movie somehow even though I remember the first and third. Tai Lung has always really stuck with me though, the franchise is surprisingly deep with great actors which you wouldn't expect at first glance.
V interesting to hear this put in words, would be interesting to hear how the juxtaposition with the fat panda's hero's journey affects a viewers perspective of him
Thanks, I definitely would be interested in doing more videos on the series, I think it's a bit underrated in terms of media discussion. If people like this video I'd probably look to do more on the topic.
I like Tai Lung specifically BECAUSE they don't go back to his story to see him redeemed in any way. I can appreciate the fact that when he had that small moment of swlf reflection against Shifu, he decided to continue fighting. I've met and talked and dealt with plenty of people who are wrong. They know in part that they are wrong, but rather than stop and chang, they double down and do even more terrible things because 1) It would mean actually reflecting on their own actions. 2) They would have to humble themselves and seek reconciliation with people the have wronged. This I think is a major problem with many villain redemptions nowadays. They aren't because a character actually thinks they're wrong. Its because they're actually a good guy, with good intentions, just on the wrong team. They often feel no need at all to reconcile with people they have wronged nor do any of them have second thoughts once they change. This is one of the highest praises of Zuko's redemption story, that it feels like an actual character struggling with an actual decision. So much that could be said about this topic
Very good point about redemption, I actually had part of a script written around something similar to this but ended up having to rework it. But yeah I find it frustrating to see their actions skimmed over or forgiven, usually because it happened to faceless "off screen" characters rather than the main cast.
Tai king isn’t just a great villain; he’s pretty much my favorite character in the whole franchise
Same! He's such a great character I love him. I wish he'd been able to come back and maybe even find some kind of redemption.
Love Tai Lung. Even though I prefer the second movie overall to the first and think that Lord Shen is also a fantastic and somewhat complex villain, I definitely related more to Tai Lung. I find it interesting that both Shen and Tai Lung had complicated relationships with their parents. We don't get to see much of Shen's parents, but the fact that he was surprised and betrayed that they reacted with horror to his panda slaughter makes me think they failed to give him any lessons in morality and simply spoiled him (He was essentially nobility after all).
I'm really annoyed at myself because I've forgotten the second movie somehow even though I remember the first and third. Tai Lung has always really stuck with me though, the franchise is surprisingly deep with great actors which you wouldn't expect at first glance.
V interesting to hear this put in words, would be interesting to hear how the juxtaposition with the fat panda's hero's journey affects a viewers perspective of him
Thanks, I definitely would be interested in doing more videos on the series, I think it's a bit underrated in terms of media discussion. If people like this video I'd probably look to do more on the topic.
I like Tai Lung specifically BECAUSE they don't go back to his story to see him redeemed in any way. I can appreciate the fact that when he had that small moment of swlf reflection against Shifu, he decided to continue fighting. I've met and talked and dealt with plenty of people who are wrong. They know in part that they are wrong, but rather than stop and chang, they double down and do even more terrible things because 1) It would mean actually reflecting on their own actions. 2) They would have to humble themselves and seek reconciliation with people the have wronged.
This I think is a major problem with many villain redemptions nowadays. They aren't because a character actually thinks they're wrong. Its because they're actually a good guy, with good intentions, just on the wrong team. They often feel no need at all to reconcile with people they have wronged nor do any of them have second thoughts once they change. This is one of the highest praises of Zuko's redemption story, that it feels like an actual character struggling with an actual decision. So much that could be said about this topic
Very good point about redemption, I actually had part of a script written around something similar to this but ended up having to rework it. But yeah I find it frustrating to see their actions skimmed over or forgiven, usually because it happened to faceless "off screen" characters rather than the main cast.