NOS Powered Chainsaw!!! John's Custom Saws INSANE 460N Shooting Fire AND Ice in Minnesota!
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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In this video I travel to the state of Minnesota to see John's Custom Saws' epic NOS powered chainsaw.
This is all super dangerous stuff I don't recommend anybody try all this out.
Sorry about the high pitch machinery in the background while in the shop. I didn’t notice the sound in real life and I couldn’t remove the sound while editing without deleting relevant material.
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I love the freedom you’re getting from not being held back by a company that just wanted to cash in on your work. I’ll bet they wish they listened to you when you wanted to do it your way. Keep up the good work my man 🤘🏽
What a good time that was... learning on the fly lol... haven't watched the whole video but I love it already... thanks my friend and you are welcome back any time.... if I didn't scare ya off 😁
Just subscribed to your channel, I can’t wait to see the progress on this saw. Seems like you need to slow the nos down, could you put a smaller opening on the pipe it’s ejected from or attach another tap along the pipe somewhere?
Just to mention the bottle doesn't have 1800psi. The emergency pop off is usually 1400/1500psi. The solenoid is only there to transfer the nitrous when needed. Down side to gravity filling is you need to heat the bottle back up to around 900-975psi in the sun or with a bottle heater for optimal/consistent performance. If the psi in the tank is to high like 1200+ depending on the solenoid brand it actually will not open. Nitrous is definitely fun for sure..
Solider the fitting closed. Then start with a .010 pin drill , drill thru solider to size your nozzle. I've installed nos on all sorts of things from lawnmower to airboat, outboard boats , and automotive engines.
19:45 fun fact the have jets so you can dial back the amount of nos
i love how, in the intro, when the Chainsaw dies, it gives out one last fart of fire lol.
Jake, the whining noise in the shop was probably from cordless battery chargers doing their thing. Something to look out for whenever you are visiting someone. If you can unplug them for the duration of your filming you shouldn’t have to worry about them messing up your videos again. Loved the video. This is exactly the kind of monkeying around and backyard engineering I love to see. Keep it up man👍
yeah that sound messes with my head. i've got perfect pitch, so that kinda sound just hurts my ears! same with vacuum cleaners! xD
I hit the Thumbs Up before even watching...
ANYTHING powered with NOS .. REQUIRES a Thumbs Up
Such an epic day meeting Jacob and hanging out with John and his NOS MS460N. great video Jacob!
Thanks Nick it was nice to meet you!
Some outstanding guys right there. Awesome video.
I really like this guy. Humble man.
Great sharing
This would make a huge difference when it comes to chainsaw milling. No more 30 minute passes on a big slab!
As someone who works on a lot of old saw, when I saw the title I was confused by NOS. A lot of the parts I get are NOS( New Old Stock).
Great video sir.
wow i just got a blast from the past, i also learned the periodic table in 9th grade myself back in 1989 and its the only thing that i do remember off hand just always stuck with me
Funny thing about names. NOS was called POP for some time in the racing scene.
@Guilty of Treeson that's badass!!! Definitely slomo material right there!
Great video! Love the guys you are hanging with.....pretty cool!! Crazy....but cool!!
I made friends with a chemist and he introduced me to tannerite, years before you could buy the stuff at stores. Chemists are cool like that
Good job teaching him to get the gullet
In the whole scheme of things I thought I'd never see, this wasn't on the list - solely due to never imagining that anyone would try it. If there's a couple of things I have to give you Yanks credit for, it's your ingenuity and having the stones to send it.
Separately, enjoying the content on your new channel. Hope this grows into exactly what you want it to be :)
Nice video, I had the volume down so I could just hear you and didn't notice the crickets in the back ground. Went back with volume up to see what everyone was complaining about. Wish I'd have known you were so close I could have taken you out to lunch. Keep up the great work.
I drag race and we use to use ntirous. If it was me i would deign me a piece of tubing to bolt onto the crab that has a 90 degree turn away from the operator and then drill a hole in the tubing to inject the nitrous. But for every amount of nitrous you put thru it you have to have twice the amount of fuel. So you have to double your fuel for the amount of nitrous. If you dont have enough fuel for the amount of nitrous your injecting its gonna backfire thru the carb
“Got to live a little, throw some NOS on that saw!” 😂
You guys have way too much fun, lol. Unreal how it cuts with NOS
This was so unexpected! That was incredibly awesome 👌
I love your new channel. I want to see you do well
just grand how you super charging the 2 stroke motor! the american dream of making things better, faster,
and unique ! great job! maybe you should use a spraying nozzle like for water to help limit the amount flowing.
along with directing it right into the carb.
This saw needs a metering valve on the NOx output side... so funny...
NOS - is just a Brand - "Nitrous Oxide Systems"
lol..
A dividing head to machine a nut, but easier to buy hex shaft, then make the thread you prefer by drilling and tapping or turning the thread
A heating blanket will warm the tank up nicely, or you could get the actual nitrous tank heater but we just use a large heating blanket 😂😂 The backfire issue of nitro building up. Can be fixed by injecting the nitrous after the carb, you dont want the nitrous going through the carb, it will get rid of the cold hand and it will better mix the shot with the fuel air mix❤
If you put nos on the 500i with fuel injection I bet that thing would be a monster!
It can most likely not adjust for that much fuel
Only if you could remap the chip to run ridiculously rich. Which you may be able to do if you had access to Stihl's software :)
@@asimplierlife3104 you cant change fuel trims. Stihls software is for diagnosis only.
Source: i work for a Stihl dealer
@@alexstromberg7696 Yeah, what they use at a dealer would never cut it. You would need to be a top engineer w/ Stihl b4 you'd have access to software that let you change the map.
@@asimplierlife3104 even if you could the injector is most likely not made to flow enough fuel for nos
Better metering and a wet shot system would help. Perhaps machine a Velocity stack with interchangeable jets for fuel and nitrous.
Great set up. You might be able to run a heavier paraffinic fuel (maybe 10% in gas) when using NOS, and add 2-EHN (2 Ethyl Hexyl Nitrate), to enhance combustion.
Screw a end cap and drill a tiny hole in it and u can slowly make the hole bigger
I’m no mechanic or machinist but I would say acorn nuts with really small holes in them of various sizes to regulate the flow.
STOP !!...now I have to get one. That is a fun toy!
What a blast !!!! You guys are on the CUTTING edge. Just say'n !!!!
That was bitchin, badazz and cool. Lol, that's all I got. Loved it .🤣🤣
should have a reduction regulator, which is set to the pressure you want, after the big NOS bottle. same on the bottle on the chain saw.
pressure reducers are e.g. also used in bars where big high pressure co2 bottles are used to pressurize beerbarrels
That was amazing, insane...but, Effing amazing
What a real buzz, use NOS on your draught beer keg. NOS is also laughing gas.
That is so sick dude.
Hey Jacob....I love your new channel. We need a video of the mods you do to your personal saws!!!
Steam powered chainsaw using saw dust as a fuel would be dope. But I guess that's next level mad scientist. And would probably weigh a ton.
I'm waiting for somone to make a Chain saw attachment for my chainsaw
Speaking as no expert in nitrous, but i am in pressured gases, you could use a flow restriction or, better still, wind down the interstage pressure on the regulator (if that is a regulator on the top and it is adjustable). If not get a regulator for it so you can control the amount of flow and it's pressure as it is coming out real fast.
30 seconds in the video and it sounded like that saw hit 20k rpms lol sounded like the old ninja 250 4cylinders almost lol should ziptie a fire exstingisher next to he nitrous bottle incase of inspections haha xD
Once you get it 100% dialed in, I really want to put this on my chainsaw DYNO!
Very cool stuff!
I'd love to see Destin from Smarter Every Day use his high speed vid equipment on your cuts!
Awesome work .
Just so you guys know… people in the south don’t call every soft drink a coke. Sprite is sprite. Mountain Dew is Mountain Dew. Coke is coke. We don’t say soda or pop though.
I’m in Savannah Georgia. Coke is Coke Sprite is Sprite Mountain Dew is Mountain Dew 😂😂 some people say soda but we mainly just call it by name
They make different size jets for the nitrous.
😳🤭😳😃got to get some for my 880. You should sell kits for saws.
Epic build ! Just wait till Reon Rounds sees this; "Dude, I gotta have one" !
Boys and their toys.
NOS is the company name (Nitrous Oxide Systems) N2O is the gas. You were correct, 2 nitrogen, 1 oxygen. The gas disassociates (cracks) at ~570 degrees F. The cracking of the gas allows for more oxygen in the cylinder which requires more fuel to be added to keep the stochiometric balance correct. How are you adding the extra fuel to the engine when the N2O comes on? Without the extra fuel, you are just leaning out the fuel mix in the cylinder.
i have a LOT of extra fuel going to the saw and the cylinder ran 12lbs of NOS and its still in great shape which is surprising
Carbs are very forgiving. Jet them rich, and the extra rpm will pull extra fuel in with the higher vacuum.
Maybe trip a mig welder tip for the nozzle. Might give you more control.
WICKED!!!
Loving the video, is there anything that can be done with the screeching audio at the start (while you are talking with John in the shop)?
I noticed that while editing but unfortunately there wasn’t anything I could do to fix it without cutting out a bunch of relevant material. The weird thing is I didn’t notice that sound in real life but that’s just the way it goes sometimes I suppose 🤷🏻♂️
@@GuiltyofTreeson what software are you editing on? If you can tweak the EQ settings you could filter the high pitched noise out.
@@GuiltyofTreeson let me know if you need a hand sorting it out.
You have to keep the chainsaw horizontal. If you go up and down you are slower.
I’m hunting you down on all fronts, I have some work for you. You might have my email already:). I like those smoke jumper 461’s
what if you ran the line too the decmp port?..or maybe a pulse line port?.. idk how you would keep it from loosing compression/vaccum thou... but.direct port lol...
maybe make or find a jet from a motorcycle,too use as a nozzle too lower the flow-amount... smaller nozzle, shot.prob work great...
and if the line was in the intake,crank,or cylinder mite even prevent the backfire-fire threw intake.. but then again prob not because it's a 2stroke, no valves.
awesome show.
p s Redbeard makes awesome stacks!
Jake you need to let gordy at west coast saws see this . He could perfect that …..lol
Watch the video I really enjoyed it was fun I could get ahold of some of those Maple discs that you cut for some projects.
That is crazy !
Needs some jets to regulate the nitrous.
Happy Thanksgiving. I hope its a good one for you and the family.
What kind of dyno results were obtained? 😂
All I've got to say is: HOLY SHIT!
That things needs a small nitrous jet to keep the back firing down, like a 25 jet. Way to much nitrous not enough fuel
mabe a turbo would also be a nice experiment
That saws a beast without the nos
next episode: nuclear-powered chainsaw
Saw and the furious
liter uh cola aye
Who thumbs down a nitrous chain saw.???.??..
You need a smaller orifice on the nozzle, similar tot he nozzle in a carb; they wouldn't run a hole that big on a truck...
SQUARE FILE GULLET IN. NO DIFF
-BUCKIN
Will you use it during normal jobs?
Try restricting the NOS flow through the fitting , I've had to do same thing with hydraulic systems to run snowplow angels
Awesome
I wonder if you could set up the nozzle to take carburetor jets? Would make it easy to tune how much nos is flowing
You need to use jets on nitrous. Any nitrous kit will come with jets, and they have a ton of sizes available.
Use a nitrous kit for a small motor like the go kart ones
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SODA!? ITS PRONOUNCED POP
You need a actual nitrous jet on there not a 1/8 npt air fitting... put a cap on it with like a .040 hole in it
i just want to take a min silence and remembrance to that piston. i have a feeling after a couple more runs it will cross the yard as it takes flight when that saw goes kablouie. :}
Nice.😆 😆.💪 mate
Will this void your warranty ?
I live in GA and have never heard anyone call spite a coke sprite or any other combination.. Coke is called coke and sprite is sprite. I lived in SD and everyone said pop.
Bad ass!!!!!!!!!
need to put a jet in the nitrous outlet
already did... the saw has come a long way since this video actually
Build me one! Please lol
You do know you can have fun with NO2 in other ways yes?
I run saws daily I don't see any point in this. Just something else to break down and work on.
Little Sally is no more, for what she thought was H2O, was really H2SO4. My 10th grade biology class.
Everyone knows H2O is water, but H2SO4 is clear and is sulfuric acid. Couldn't help thinking of that
line when I heard you talking about NO2.
put a orfice in the out let of the valve
Thats when the public school system actually taught some real stuff that would be useful.
I wonder if nitrous would run better on a reed saw
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How many RPM's? 11,000? 12,000?
Nitrous doubles your oxygen levels
maples are a softwood, except for sugar maple which that is not