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I have a TA-22 and love it, but I wish it looked like the TA-20 Plus with the tube-jail, VU meter and volume display. I'd consider swapping but I have the 22 mostly for it's DAC+Tube combo which then drives my Stax L-700Mk2s through an SRM-717 I restored. The TA-32 looks very interesting, I'm eagerly awaiting your video on it when it finally comes out ♥
I purchased my TA-22 about 2 weeks ago, when it was on sale. Wish I had seen this review sooner. I’m using the Stax SR-2170, Frado SR325i and Fiio FH-7 I think the tubes are now starting to open up. Have you tried any other tubes? I’m thinking of the Genelex Gold Lion, but will consider other tubes that have been tried and tested
@@Cons2911I can’t remember, as it was a year ago. Probably the looks I have the gold lions installed now. Oddly one of the tubes was humming and the retailer wouldn’t take it back, as they claimed the tubes were tested. Luckily the humming disappeared when the tubes burnt in. It is my first tube amp, so I’m very inexperienced with tube amps
@shahidyt was supposed to order my ta 26s yesterday (small discount, less than 20 bucks) I have hd650 which people say is a good match to tubes. I held off.. I just bought a 300+ iem lol. Maybe I'll enjoy this one first before taking a 2nd look. Always wanted a tube amp
Dear Z, You are the only reviewer who openly says "This is how I pay my Mortgage". That is #1 why I'm done with everyone else. Still not over being angered, allowing another review to insinuate my system is sub-par. Best, D.
I have a TA-22, does not come with a remote, love it, absolutely, tube swapping did not seem to make a sound difference oddly enough, but idc, will experiment more eventually
@@stephengorka1161 So far I have a pair of gold pin JJ’s that I had in a TA-20, solid bass and everything sounds good, then another pair of some old random cheap GE 5964’s? Had a few other decent pairs that I sold a while ago but yea I am completely happy with the JJ’s, may try the stock tubes just for a comparison, i didn’t put them in originally
Can't you use a 4.4mm pentacon to two xlr out from the headphone jack to your speakers or amp instead of using the rca's in the back? The mt604's were able to be used as a preamp with the 4.4mm pentacon from the front headphone jack.
How about a ta-20 plus sound comparison to the ta-20 you have on the rack. I currently have a ta-20 and 30 different brands and years of matched 12au7 and 12bh7 tubes or equivalents. Just hadn't seen any review comparisons between the ta-20 and plus to say its even worth buying a ta-20 plus.
Hoihoi Zeos, is a review for the new Shanking EH-3 in the works or has it been planned? Many thanks for your work!;)) My bank account does not like your content, though...
@@ZReviews No rush, 'cause I've spent the allocated money for the EH3 type of a gear on a motorbike upgrade, new TV and the Meze Elites + a cheeky nephew, so have to wait a bit till I can buy one anyway.;)) Looking forward to your review!;)) Enjoy the Sunday!;))
Zeos, I remember the xDuoo XQ-100 was fail because you weren't able to make it work, so you weren't able to give it proper review. The original XQ-50 Pro Bluetooth receiver is a keeper for me but I was looking forward to your impressions of the XQ-100.
Been using the Topping A90D you recommended as one amp to rule them all since last year... Maybe one day I will get a tube amp. I only have so much desk space!
@@justinbeard4733 It's nice amp, tons of features and Z recommended. It's in competition with their new A70Pro! I think we win all the way around, so its good for we consumers.
Hey Zeos, do you hear a slight hum from the TA-20 Plus. No noise or hum coming from the headphones, but a slight mechanical hum coming from the unit itself. Did you replace the rectifier tube as well?
@@chungang7037 My ta-20 plus definitely has a slight audible hum emanating from the device itself. I wonder if Zeos is paying the ultimate price for listening to sounds and music all day for the reviews. I wonder at what db he's listening to music. I would be very surprised if his hearing hasn't degraded at all.
@@johenkay1129 I think I also saw some people saying swapping the tubes improved things. To be honest I am fed up with the guessing game, the tube rolling sounds like a minefield and I don't live in the US so getting a hold of them is hard. I think I am going to go back to IFI's offering for a warmer sound signature instead.
How are the included tubes? In reading comments I see folks saying noise, vibrations, and not so great. How is it stock? How does it compare to your roll?
I had no problem with the original tubes, I only swapped to the apos ray to see if there would be a large enough improvement to warrant changing tubes. I did find there to be a slight difference but not a required step. No noise or sensitivity with my original set
Z, About DACs, is there a minimum spec. and price range to run a Flag Ship headphone. I have the DO200, [and Jotunheim 2]would it be detailed enough? Best, D. p.s. The HEDDV2 has me $aving.
@@ZReviews I could see that for your set up for mine I like to have my elbows on my desk bc I hate seeing set ups where it’s the edge of the table and it’s just enough for wrists Also I did 43 bc my monitor is -a 49 and my holo stack eats up a lot of depth
@@ZReviews thanks, my intention are to add that tubey sound to a couple of my high impedance cans (AX5000, T1, HD650, etc) im satisfied with the sound of my TA-Zh1ES so a completely different sounding amp while also having way more power is what I'm looking.
Do either of these come with a remote to use in s Stereo setup? That would be a nice Preamp to use with a power amp. What is the balance of Stereo videos compared to Desk setup videos? Wish there was more Stereo and HT stuff here. Desk/headphone stuff could move to your other fetish channel? just thinking.
@@ZReviews Don't get angry man. Just wanted to hear the usual audiophile description Soundstage, depth, separation et al :) (i have decent solid state amps with tube preamp but no pure tube amp. So the question lingering in my mind is will a pure tube amp provide more variance than a hybrid tube amp)
I had the TA-22, loved it and so did my custom Grado style headphones. Then the relays failed. I was heart broken. And now I need an amp and a little apprehensive to get back in bed with Xduoo. Just realized Xduoo is like a hot girlfriend.
DearZ, I was corresponding with another reviewer. This person basically said my HP system was $hit. I know you would not agree and that is good enough for me. Best, D.
Wut u mean, iem is another channels??.. Iem Do needs a system butter to make it alives.. Hmm.. Xduoo.. Still couplings with my Q5S TC.. as wut u said last time... Yup extander.. Yup cute MT604 2watts also.. Hmm dis new.. Of course better then oldies..buy it.. U dun Cuz u covered sponsores.. Ha3 bye2 butter Peace!
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I have a TA-22 and love it, but I wish it looked like the TA-20 Plus with the tube-jail, VU meter and volume display. I'd consider swapping but I have the 22 mostly for it's DAC+Tube combo which then drives my Stax L-700Mk2s through an SRM-717 I restored. The TA-32 looks very interesting, I'm eagerly awaiting your video on it when it finally comes out ♥
I purchased my TA-22 about 2 weeks ago, when it was on sale. Wish I had seen this review sooner.
I’m using the Stax SR-2170, Frado SR325i and Fiio FH-7
I think the tubes are now starting to open up.
Have you tried any other tubes? I’m thinking of the Genelex Gold Lion, but will consider other tubes that have been tried and tested
I tried the jj teslas and they sound like the stock tubes so far. Might notice a difference with a specific genre later
@@shahidytis ta22 not hybrid and ta 20 plus is hybrid? Why do you like the ta 20 plus more?
@@Cons2911I can’t remember, as it was a year ago. Probably the looks
I have the gold lions installed now. Oddly one of the tubes was humming and the retailer wouldn’t take it back, as they claimed the tubes were tested. Luckily the humming disappeared when the tubes burnt in. It is my first tube amp, so I’m very inexperienced with tube amps
@shahidyt was supposed to order my ta 26s yesterday (small discount, less than 20 bucks)
I have hd650 which people say is a good match to tubes.
I held off.. I just bought a 300+ iem lol. Maybe I'll enjoy this one first before taking a 2nd look. Always wanted a tube amp
Dear Z, You are the only reviewer who openly says "This is how I pay my Mortgage". That is #1 why I'm done with everyone else. Still not over being angered, allowing another review to insinuate my system is sub-par. Best, D.
“Doing it for the mortgage.” - Thank You For Smoking
I have a TA-22, does not come with a remote, love it, absolutely, tube swapping did not seem to make a sound difference oddly enough, but idc, will experiment more eventually
I tried the jj teslas and they sound like the stock tubes so far. Might notice a difference with a specific genre later. Which tubes did you try?
@@stephengorka1161 So far I have a pair of gold pin JJ’s that I had in a TA-20, solid bass and everything sounds good, then another pair of some old random cheap GE 5964’s? Had a few other decent pairs that I sold a while ago but yea I am completely happy with the JJ’s, may try the stock tubes just for a comparison, i didn’t put them in originally
Xduoo Ta20 Plus is nuetral and sounds the same as THX 789.
GM , time traveling through RUclips…I’m still rocking the 604 …and I’m good.
The new Drop + XDuoo amp looks super sexy and minimalist, like Drop does.
Can't you use a 4.4mm pentacon to two xlr out from the headphone jack to your speakers or amp instead of using the rca's in the back? The mt604's were able to be used as a preamp with the 4.4mm pentacon from the front headphone jack.
Technically, yes. Legally? questionable because you can over-volt the device
How about a ta-20 plus sound comparison to the ta-20 you have on the rack. I currently have a ta-20 and 30 different brands and years of matched 12au7 and 12bh7 tubes or equivalents. Just hadn't seen any review comparisons between the ta-20 and plus to say its even worth buying a ta-20 plus.
Hi bro, how you feel lyr 2 or lyr + vs t20 plus ? Tks bro!
Hoihoi Zeos, is a review for the new Shanking EH-3 in the works or has it been planned?
Many thanks for your work!;))
My bank account does not like your content, though...
I don't have one yet. Looks Cool
@@ZReviews No rush, 'cause I've spent the allocated money for the EH3 type of a gear on a motorbike upgrade, new TV and the Meze Elites + a cheeky nephew, so have to wait a bit till I can buy one anyway.;))
Looking forward to your review!;))
Enjoy the Sunday!;))
Zeos, I remember the xDuoo XQ-100 was fail because you weren't able to make it work, so you weren't able to give it proper review. The original XQ-50 Pro Bluetooth receiver is a keeper for me but I was looking forward to your impressions of the XQ-100.
Noob question, so are hybrids less tubey?
Say ta 26s vs ta 20 plus?
Been using the Topping A90D you recommended as one amp to rule them all since last year... Maybe one day I will get a tube amp. I only have so much desk space!
I love my ta-22 but wanna try the 90d
@@justinbeard4733 It's nice amp, tons of features and Z recommended. It's in competition with their new A70Pro! I think we win all the way around, so its good for we consumers.
The Topping sr22 aluminum rack solved this for me. I stacked my e70, l70, and ta 20 plus on this rack with the xduoo on the top.
hi there - what are these little speakers on your desktop - the look so nice, i was getting really curious about them - brand?
Hey Zeos, do you hear a slight hum from the TA-20 Plus. No noise or hum coming from the headphones, but a slight mechanical hum coming from the unit itself. Did you replace the rectifier tube as well?
I swapped to the Apos RAY tubes but no noise from the unit.
@@ZReviews You're the best Zeos! What did you think of the stock tubes? Worth keeping, or does the amp require upgrading the tubes?
@@johenkay1129 There was another review for the 22 that mentioned noise and a hum
@@chungang7037 My ta-20 plus definitely has a slight audible hum emanating from the device itself. I wonder if Zeos is paying the ultimate price for listening to sounds and music all day for the reviews. I wonder at what db he's listening to music. I would be very surprised if his hearing hasn't degraded at all.
@@johenkay1129 I think I also saw some people saying swapping the tubes improved things. To be honest I am fed up with the guessing game, the tube rolling sounds like a minefield and I don't live in the US so getting a hold of them is hard. I think I am going to go back to IFI's offering for a warmer sound signature instead.
Hi,Z! I wonder what would you recommend to get, this or Aune S17 Pro? Or both? Thanks in advance.
I have never thought that it is possible to not know what A$ paper is. It is taught in elementary school, it is size of printer paper.
How are the included tubes? In reading comments I see folks saying noise, vibrations, and not so great. How is it stock? How does it compare to your roll?
I had no problem with the original tubes, I only swapped to the apos ray to see if there would be a large enough improvement to warrant changing tubes. I did find there to be a slight difference but not a required step. No noise or sensitivity with my original set
Can we get a headphone wall update video?
Its like 96% the same but I guess I can squeeze one out
Would this still sound good and tuby with the 16 Ohm Arya Organic or would you consider the EF600 a better fit?
With the VU Meter, can you use the adjustment screw underneath to make it work for higher/lower sensitivity IEM/Headphones?
Z, About DACs, is there a minimum spec. and price range to run a Flag Ship headphone. I have the DO200, [and Jotunheim 2]would it be detailed enough? Best, D. p.s. The HEDDV2 has me $aving.
No comparison with ta26s?
Z, Will IEM's work on this ok?
9:30 Z i Diy my desk so its 6ft long and 43in deep for this very reason
it all started with ragnarok 2( get a smaller amp) no build a bigger desk
I'd be happy with 52x30
@@ZReviews I could see that for your set up for mine I like to have my elbows on my desk bc I hate seeing set ups where it’s the edge of the table and it’s just enough for wrists
Also I did 43 bc my monitor is -a 49 and my holo stack eats up a lot of depth
Also bc I wanted a Wa5 le at some point
ta26 or 20+?
Same question. Currently use Sivga023 with TA-26 and it’s awesome.
Well since its a pure Tube the TA26 does more for Dynamics like the HD600. This is 70% as good as a true tube and works on every type of headphone.
@@ZReviews Thanks! I’ll stick with TA-26. But new TA-20 Plus is sure hot. I hope they will make separate preamp like this.
@@ZReviews thanks, my intention are to add that tubey sound to a couple of my high impedance cans (AX5000, T1, HD650, etc) im satisfied with the sound of my TA-Zh1ES so a completely different sounding amp while also having way more power is what I'm looking.
Just sold my Ta-22, lemme get that.
I want a ta26 with a built-in dac and Bluetooth. Is there anything like that even on the market?
An actual full tube would get too much interference from BT. The TA22 is hybrid like this with BT
Do either of these come with a remote to use in s Stereo setup? That would be a nice Preamp to use with a power amp.
What is the balance of Stereo videos compared to Desk setup videos? Wish there was more Stereo and HT stuff here. Desk/headphone stuff could move to your other fetish channel? just thinking.
Unfortunately not. I don't see why they wouldn't but just not an option.
Can it drive DT880 600 Ohm? These are crazy difficult to power so can it hadle it? Maybe only Emotiva Basx a-100 can power these?
Z, Looking forward to your HEDD V2 review. Because you won't $hit me. DMS's people have given them mixed reviews. Best, D.
No remote control on the 26
I see you are rocking original pads on your TYGR's. I got the Dakoni's you said to get on the Byr/Dakoni video. Perfection... Best, D.
But how does it sound?
What tubes did you drop in it? What headphones are you pushing? Are you running 93 octane or race fuel?
@@ZReviews Don't get angry man. Just wanted to hear the usual audiophile description Soundstage, depth, separation et al :)
(i have decent solid state amps with tube preamp but no pure tube amp. So the question lingering in my mind is will a pure tube amp provide more variance than a hybrid tube amp)
For the love of GOD, why is it so hard to make a 2 channel integrated Sub out amplifier, with tubes. I just do not understand why this is so hard????
because tubes and 2 channel and are like frick and frack
didn't the Ayima T9 have that?
How is this compared to the woo wa7?
This isn't a true tube. So more power, less tube? Its a hard call
I had the TA-22, loved it and so did my custom Grado style headphones. Then the relays failed. I was heart broken. And now I need an amp and a little apprehensive to get back in bed with Xduoo. Just realized Xduoo is like a hot girlfriend.
No remote for ta 22!!
Did you try the Tungstens on this?
I did, My V9.0 driver can't. I will hold off judgement until I get a 9.2
How dare you,my mom🤨😏
How is you cat
Rob.
Cats, Swede and The Drake are well. They eat food and go outside when the weather is nice. Chewbacca passed back in 2021.
To tube or not to tube...
Not even a question
I read: LUBE HARD DIE FAST
I have a straight one, A30pro, i have to try LGBQT+, this one or aune S17pro ? :D ZEOS we need you !
DearZ, I was corresponding with another reviewer. This person basically said my HP system was $hit. I know you would not agree and that is good enough for me. Best, D.
Figured you'd put the waifu inside the cage.
Only a bad one
Wut u mean, iem is another channels??.. Iem Do needs a system butter to make it alives.. Hmm.. Xduoo.. Still couplings with my Q5S TC.. as wut u said last time... Yup extander.. Yup cute MT604 2watts also.. Hmm dis new.. Of course better then oldies..buy it.. U dun Cuz u covered sponsores.. Ha3 bye2 butter Peace!
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