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Terence McKenna on Carl Jung
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2018
- Terence McKenna talks to the Jung Society about the importance and his appreciation of Carl Jung.
From his talk entitled "Sacred Plants as Guides - New Dimensions of the Soul." Given at the Jung Society in Los Angeles.
I wonder if McKenna knew that actually Jung's first career option was archeology, but his family did not have the money to finance it. I find it truly beautiful that he became an archeologist of the mind.
He definitely knew as he mentioned Aion was a part of his studies. Jung explicitly said in Aion that his psychology is paralleled to excavating the collective unconscious like what an archeologist does to ancient relics.
Reminds me of the dream Jung spoke about in « Memories, Dreams, Reflections » where he finds another level below the basement filled with ancient artifacts.
McKenna speaks like an old classical philosopher who is caught halfway between the mystical beliefs of old and the sentiments of modern science.
That’s what psychedelics in the modern age will do to a person.
Just like Jung, as he got older of course towards the mystical beliefs, but he has the scientific background and was always very sure not to be absolutely sure of almost anything
I would say that tug of war is philosopher's hallmark.
I’ve been in to McKenna for a long time and that is the most elegant summation to his thoughts I’ve ever heard.
Beautiful writing
I had no idea what Mckenna was talking about in this lecture until I read Jung, McKenna becomes insanely more intelligent as I get older.
Noticed this myself. He's also getting more human which is more fascinating!
where and whatdo i read?
Which book by Jung should I read first?
@@pugsly4523 Aion is a good one. "When man stops looking for gods in the sky they will go inside", Jung goes in to detail in the Archetypes with that one. The red book books good also, mind you he was going threw a schizophrenic episode when he wrote that one, so it's a bit harder to read, but people still love it, it's a bit pricey but I'm hoping to read it cover to cover someday.
@@kchannel5317 Thanks!
Thank you technology.
Thank the people who made technology
Thanks for your hard work Jungians :)
Thank yourself and your mom and dad
@@lifewasgiventous1614 not exactly. McKenna was distributing TimeWave software before the World Wide Web, making this videos long before RUclips. It's fact that technology caught up to McKenna, when he had no idea how to code, or anything CompSci. Unless by 'tech' you mean Hoffman, or the synthetic DMT that got McKenna started. And how much of that was "discovered", rather than developed. There are great forces driving "technology", and while we salute the inventors, there's more to it than that, especially wisdom like McKenna's, which gives content worth making tech like RUclips on the internet worthwhile.
Cuvtixo D
Huh?
McKenna's ability to speak in beautiful metaphors, in the moment, is a rare gift.
Let me tell you as a scholarly psychologist and a neuroscientist: McKenna will be remembered one day as a central psychologist, without him even trying to pursue it officially. He was way beyond his time.
Truly fascinating. Terence McKenna is an intellectual force in his own right. Carl Jung is deeper than deep. If you don't know, get ready for that.
You and many say "deeper than deep",
but I'm not really sure if "depth" makes sense when talking about psychology. Somehow we like it that Jung is so deep and we want to have a deep understanding of our psyche and nature, but when you talk about leaving ordinary states of consciousness and rational thought, "depth" makes no sense to me
@@mb_2174
Interesting point. Depth is commonly defined when describing the profound complexity of consciousness and its relationship with human behavior. We have a subconscience being and a conscience mind which branches off into compartmentalized behavioral issues. Every person is connected as one to a degree, and yet individually different at the same time. It's a dichotomy existence. Think of our physical beings as an avatar. Our minds brain function (much like downloaded information in a computer) runs a program to help us navigate through this 3rd dimensional frequency. Our core being is what's connected to all the universe through electromagnetism.
@@mb_2174 Yes the conscious mind (and the rational mechanism it uses) is not all there is to the human psyche. It's a hard one to get one's head around if one only thinks in rational terms - understandably - but emotions, intuitions, the rapping of ones fingers against a desk for no apparent reason, etc. etc. are also part of the human experience and rationality alone is unable to pierce through and fully understand this phenomena as it is. Such phenomena can lead to neurosis or even psychosis and here rationality can even become part of the problem (if one beats oneself up for not being rational towards one's anxiety, for example, this can lead to a negative feedback loop). The Jungian method is to not only cure mental illness, however, but to achieve a state of complete integration of these separate parts of the psyche so that they no longer influence our behaviours - as they do when they remain unconscious. A person who fully achieves this, in Jung's view, has achieved individuation - complete freedom to genuinely be themselves, no matter the circumstance.
@@mb_2174 Depth doesn't make sense because conscious is "there". It's very simple, not easy.
Oh we all know, we just arent aware of it
Great mind talking about a great mind.
I discovered Jung in high school. I was captivated by "Memories, Dreams, Reflections" and never looked back. Although a great deal of his books are vey difficult indeed. His Autobiography is the one that the beginner should read.
Agree.
I agree. Then you can spend many years on the rest of his works. Jung was such a monster intellect. The sheer volume and quality of his output is amazing.
This man is one of the few who I feel can sell me literally anything. Now he sold me Carl Jung, and I bought it.
Jung is really good and really hard, thats why you needed someone to sell you the greatest literature of the psychology, I hope you enjoy reading Jung it really can change your perspective and give you insane insights, cheers fron Spain.
You might want to rehearse with a few Jordan Peterson videos first. He will warn you of what lies ahead.
And he will be correct.
Have you played around with personality typing and the MBTI community? You can take free tests online
and there are some very good channels to learn a bit more.
@@wynstansmom829 Does Jordan Peterson think Jung is not totally correct or what? I want to study psychology but is there anything people agree doesn't have flaws/would be teaching me wrong stuff?
@@YesPlease1 I don't know your age, gender or interests so allow me to suggest you listen to my favorite professor and
humanist, Malcolm Gladwell.
Let him tell you what a wonderful world we have that is actually getting better.
Then maybe listen to Professor Steven Pinker talk about language and communication. They have a skill and there is
an Art to Delivering Information.
That leads me to my favorite TedTalks. Mike Johnston The Art of Delivering Information.
He teaches drums and now that I think about him, listen to his TedTalks first. I won't link it because
that might be perceived as a form of spam.
I joined the military (1C3) because I wanted to finish my degrees, travel and work somewhere interesting.
That worked for me and secured my future.
If I was going to begin again, I would study psychology and communication. And allow my career choice to evolve
organically after I had the bigger picture view of the world.
I would pursue degrees and study while surrounding myself with people who discuss ideas and are creative people.
I would also have a nice little job. It is important to learn to follow before you try to lead.
Studies show that we only really work for 2 to 3 hours a day at most 'jobs' (not factory, service or responders) so I would look around and see if I wanted to work on campus either at a hospital campus or corporate campus and I would look at the perks. Is there a cafeteria. Do they offer holidays off? Are there cute young people to
play with and date? That kind of thing. In my generation, young people started in the mailroom.
Now, I might be a barista because the shop was in the middle of the college campus and I could attend lectures for free. The food would be good and I would not have to tip. lol
Then I would find a nice little purpose that gives back to my small community. Something that pays it forward
and makes me feel good at the end of the night. A reason to get up perhaps and see people smile when I wave hello because they know who I am.
I would have animals (I have Ferrets) because they teach us an inherent kindness and social etiquette that
is wiser than most humans offer us. Nature versus Nurture. Nature, I can understand.
It is smart to plan your future but today, you have so many options. Consider where you are on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs and spend the most time there, not planning for your future. Trust me, despite our best intentions, we
stumble falter and fail. I have learned that there is joy in the journey despite the plethora of inspired holiday cards that
tell us so.
One last little lesson, humor is the key. Offer yourself and people more smiles than tears because people remember how you make them feel. Or as Joe Rogan said, Be the Hero in your own movie. Oof, watch Joe Rogan
on the INtellectual Dork Web. (and Fry and Laurie)
Humor, arrrrh arrrrh.
and that's what happens when an Oldish INTJ has an opinion and someone is interested in her reply.
Jung sucks
McKenna was a brilliant and fascinating mind , his ability to consider all things and articulate them is like no other. To listen to TM in '22 it's more relevant then when he spoke live in the 80's-'99 which makes him that so much more incredible . He was a 💎
Terence honored to be speaking to the jung society. And after he left, i'm sure the feelings were quite mutual. Finding someone as fluent in language and descriptions as Mckenna is near impossible.
This guy is a time bender. Very vivid mind with close presence.
U have to experience that alchemy yourself to fully understand what he’s saying. I’ll never forget my personal experience with it. Gives me chills just thinking about it
Priceless. Both Jung and McKenna. The beauty of understanding.
I love you, Terrence McKenna, wherever you are. Wherever you may be in the Cosmos, you are certainly gaining an incredible groundswell of Consciousness here on Planet Earth as psychedelics are doing their best to reboot Consciousness in the world! Bless you, and Than you, dear, amazingly brilliant, Terrence.
He was the Messiah!" ☯️⚡🕉🍄☮
Reeboot consciousness!" You're a bit of a genius yourself!" Great words." 👍☯️⚡🕉🍄☮
Yess! And thank you for your kind words to Terrence 🙏🏼💛🌌
@Bunt Cakes And it takes one to know one, they say...
The Red Book was finally published in 2009, revealing the incredible states of consciousness that Jung had accessed through his own path of individuation. Visions after visions, Jung would access his deeper realms in plane daylight. Terence had a bright mind and recognized the flawed and rather arbitrary label of schizophrenia in the modern academia. This just proves that the we're light years away from a true understanding of ourselves, and that further prohibition of the natural substances that enable these states to the occur is equal to crashing down the Hubble telescope because we're confident enough to explore the universe with our eyes.
We are closer than you think, there will be MAJOR events that happen this year (other than the virus), 2025, 2030 and 144 years from now
I love that you used the word "plane" instead of "plain" daylight. Maybe a Freudian slip, but a nice touch to the dimensionality of your statement.
Marioca if you need to start learning about the future of psychology, look no further than the works of Sri Aurobindo. His work explains the mind and the workings and evolution of the human mind and its realtionship with the universe like no other human being ever has.
I wish Jung and McKenna had a podcast together.
Couldn't agree more about Jung's later work being the most interesting & earth shaking. The Undiscovered Self is a personal fav
What did Jung discover though?
@@mindhunter8772 what did Jung not discover is the appropriate question.
What were theories mired in Freud's own neuroticism, Jung stripped himself of Freud's ideology to basically lay the foundation for a comprehensive theory of everything the unconcious could be. Freud's unconcious was a basement. Jung's was a vast labyrinth full of deep meaning & sobering depth. Only know has the world begun to understand him in people like Jordan Peterson.
@@joshuastephenward5316 Jung stripped himself of his self.
@@mindhunter8772 archetypes. That alone shows his genius.
It’s hypnotizing to listen to this guy, he has a brilliant mind. But I do find myself finishing these videos and realizing it’s kind of tough to draw out a point. Often just seems like a ton of information jumbled together
In this video he mostly points out the relationship between Jung and the psychedelic community on the relationship between the unconscious mind and the exterior world. I get where you are coming from though, sometimes he explains things along his points and I lose track or he switches on to another topic with ease without me realizing how we got there lol.
That’s psychedelics for you.
That's the genius, they are scatter brained and appear nonsensical, but in reality most of us are the ones not tuned in to the cosmic energy flooding into our brains.
@@coltspiller4446 I don’t think they are either
What kind of point are you looking for? Hard to see the forest for the trees, no?
Terence McKenna was such an imposing, intellectual force. If there was anyone who could truly grasp the ideas of Jung, it was him! His true significance to the science of the mind has yet to be fully appreciated. At least as I view it.
Modern Science and spirituality is incompatible to each other.
Terence McKenna was a Shamanic teacher of fascinating subjects!
I have read Jung. Oddly enough, I have read the three books McKenna mentions, in the order in which he mentions them (Psychology and Alchemy, Mysterium Coniunctionis, and Aion). Jung was clearly extremely well-read. I have also read Eliade's books on yoga and shamanism.
But after all my engagement with Jung's works (and with eastern philosophies/methods of self-cultivation prior to that), I can't say for sure whether he was onto something profound or whether he was neurotic and self-deluded to a grandiose degree.
Many of Jung's ideas about the unconscious seem like attempts to reconcile his own inner turmoil, turmoil which stemmed from things like: being sexually abused at a young age by an uncle, rejecting Christianity even though (or perhaps because) his father and other male relatives were pastors, his break with Freud, his serial cheating on his wife, etc.
Still, I recommend reading Jung on the condition that you beware of solidifying and clinging to his ideas as if they were dogma set in stone. I can't tell you how many Jungians are out there looking to have conversations with their shadows or their animas, and it's futile imagination. What may have been a significant psychological process that took a particular form relevant to Jung's personal experiences has turned into a bunch of wannabes hung up on recreating the same experiences with the same forms that occurred to Jung, rather than giving their unconscious the chance to reveal itself in forms personally meaningful to themselves.
Yes, but in using language to express these ideas, we come to understand our minds better
I have experienced speaking to my unconscious through active imagination. It's deeper than people understand.
Jung just documented the language of the unconscious, knowing Jung does not remove the personal experience at all, if anything it makes it better understood
I agree. I think however that Jung provides a good set of instructions for how to do it, I think a part of it can be understood sort of as 'the dislodging of the mind', allowing for the free flow of libido to instigate meaningful experiences of the unconscious, however to recreate them seem a little too comical and counterintuitive to that
Jung himself did not believe in dogma. That is why he rejected the church and it is the reason he fell out with Freud.
Tripping or not and life is a trip for each of us all but if you trip while you're on your trip, we'll be there to talk you down or pick you up if you may have taken a fall ~
as I was going to remark upon Mr. McKenna's intelligence and my gratitude for the awareness he shares along with my continued agreeance with the positive effects of psychedelics, the poem above just.... happened!
Journalizing here upon this this Digital Diary is for the whole world man! Outtasite
The greatest trip is the one you choose to take for the benefit of those who matter.
As an outline, using Jung's ideas can help you navigate through the cultural end we are now in the midst of, very insightful.
Such a vast intellect. If alive today he would be filling stadiums.
and he would love to see all the psychedelic research being done right now
If if if...
OMG!!! Thank you! sooo much for posting this clip. 🌈✌🏾👍🏾❤️
McKenna and Jung is my favorite anime crossover ever, this video made my day
thanks for sharing the content! Terrence McKenna is a human treasure!
This is wonderful. Something in his sound/tone of his voice also sounds similar to Fred Rogers in the famous PBS funding video. A wonderful character can sometimes be found manifest in the the pace and tone of a voice. Ahh. nice.
ahh yes the timewave
Jung, I think represents the beginning of a true appreciation for the subjective level of perception, which after all this is what music, and the nature of 'counter culture' narratives were driven by. The rationalists scoff, of course! But one man who embodies this Jungian area is Arthur Young, the man who gave us the first practical form of the Helicopter, i think Arthur Young has been criminally neglected since his death in 1995.
I appreciate the recommendation, Arthur Young is a fascinating individual!
Thank you, Michael Gorman. I had not heard of Arthur Young until your comment. (shame on me, I read history)
and why is your user name so familiar? Interesting. (lol, I am a rational as our MBTI community might confirm.
Hmmm, how many so often ignore the millenia of teachings from the Eastern traditions, out of which sparked much of Jung's thinking. The basic point is this: Exogenous substances (ie drugs of all kinds) can indeed stir awakenings of consciousness. As can self administered endogenous techniques of self awareness (ie, meditation). Whereas drugs are quicker and stronger in the instant, their effects are NOT permanent. They are both physiologically and psychologically addictive and may have toxic impurities.. Whereas meditation is slower, safer, unpolluted, self controllable, and permanent because the internal structuring of the expanded consciousness is self induced. Perhaps Jung never stressed this -- but he certainly knew it and hence he never gave drugs the credence many expect or would like.
@@thedolphin5428 of Nature and Nurture...I agree. Balance is important in nature and nurture.
" If there is anything that we wish to change in a child, we should first examine it and see whether it is not something that could be better changed in ourselves."
@@thedolphin5428 wrong, firstly no classic psychedelic is physiologically addictive. Even Bill W. Of AA was excited about LSD as a treatment for alcoholics. McKenna himself said, you can sweep the temple steps for 20 years, slavishly following a guru, hoping maybe you might get enlightenment, or you can take a psychedelic and be assured of a transcendent experience. Meditation helps, but don't dismiss psychedelics as "temporary". That's just false.
Damn Steve Buscemi is spitting facts
bro fr
i wonder what insights Jung could have gleaned if he took DMT
He was taking it regularly. If I am not mistaken, DMT is responsible for producing our dreams. And with Jung dreams was at the centre of things.
@@meme3395 the shit u smoke tho
@John Peaches yea they do lol try it
@Twin Flame Telepath I don't doubt it.
@@user-is3yn7xr4c I'm talking about everybody in general. All mammals, in fact. There are studies confirming that very small amounts of DMT are produced in the pineal gland. CARL Jung just paid more attention to the effects than most of us :)
A shame he never got to read Carl Jung's Red Book
Yes I wonder if the 'unacademic' nature of the Red Book caused Jung's amazing insight of the existence of the Collective Unconscious connecting us all to be even now still largely ignored?
Jung and McKenna would have been blown away by the works of Sri Aurobindo, and his genius work and theory of the evolution of the mind of the human being into the supermind and spiritual and divine mind
For some reason he seems to elude confidence.... It might be how calm and laid back he is in front of so many people.... Hes just chillen..... Talking ... Almoat like hes not even trying to teach.
exude?
Also: rudolf steiner and jean gebser also had their base in switzerland
Gebser! Most people have certainly not heard of him!
Wow he certainly understands Jung and Psychedelics and blends the two subjects very well
Had no idea Anthony Cumia was a closeted intellectual.
Fawk yeah brother man🤟🏻😂
Lmao!!
Opie sucks
The heating and air conditioning job if he continued that
funny seeing you here.......
He lives in a our phones
Goddamn, this dude looks and sounds exactly like I would imagine a person of name Terrence McKenna would look and sound like.
thanks for the share
How to steal like an artist: "I call Jung a noetic archeologist". Term taken from Jung himself in the Archetypes and the Collective unconsious, indebted indeed.
But of course Terence read all the cool shit, and turned his nose up at the "popular" texts.
Terrence is the King
"The combination of Jung and Eliade" reference to Mircea Eliade. The name Mircea is pronounced something like "meercha" into two syllabus while Eliade something like ealy-ade (4 syllabus)
Hi alexandru, i am italian: really? I thought It was pronounced italianistically "mircèa", instead Is something like "mírcia"? I can tell you are romanian so clearly you know what you are talking about! Cheers!
@@ozoshah Hello,
well, I'm Romanian and so was Mr. Eliade, who's works we have studied in school. As for Mr. McKenna, I just finished reading one of his books and besides the fact that he is one of the most cultivated authors I have come across, is also one of the few that I know to be quoting Eliade's work.
For the correct pronunciation of his first name you need to emphasize the vocal on the first syllabus - the "I", not on the second. It was the closest thing to phonetic transcription I could find to clear out this, for the others interested in this, not that I would correct Mr. McKenna, that's understood.
we're here to fart around don't let anyone tell you different Vonnegut
Young Jungians often indulge in eccentric eloquence resulting from alchemical experiments in search of archetypal topography. In other words, the scent of sense.
@@TheEleatic Quite.
Some fart more melodiously than others, but Wir fahren alle die Autobahn runter.
@goatstop I'm sorry for her hurting anyone's feelings, but if were going to have an honest discussion about McKenna's lecture, actually read the dam books he's talking about, the homophobic slurs were to catch your attention faggot
Or indeed, if I insulted your sexuality I'm sorry I'll just call you a thin slime worm, With no evolutionary ability to think. The work that he is taking about is of High importance to anyone who has suffered from schizophrenia, so ya shut the fuck up.
Did Alan Watts and Terence McKenna ever cross paths?
Watts died in 76. I doubt they ever met. Terence did have dialogue with ram dass.
I know that Terrence listened to and read Watts, based on an interview I saw of his brother.
Two of my favourite men and coming down of an epic acid trip, whoa the cosmix bartender sure knows how to mix
Whoa, halfway thru when it pulled back to reveal the room service trolley next to him hahah
concepts of consciousness that should be taught to all members of the human race.......
@Vagabond-Savant The Autodidact-Serviette
As we are taught to be. I do not mean this in a grand conspiratorial way - I think it is natural for humans to be fearful, after all we are ego driven animals and the ego allows us to survive. Fear of the unknown, I think, being the strongest.
The ability for us to conquer fear and face the unknown requires a lot of patience and learning, but those willing to persist discover the gift of "being".
We should all strive to lift each other and encourage one another to face "the fear", whatever that may be (could be the ego itself).
But, important to realize that at the end of the day, we are still contained in bodies that fuel off of ego.
Really interesting stuff though. I have learned to laugh!
Teaching the concept is not the important. Using the unconscious as your power is the most important
Love this!
This is awesome.
From the irritation of a fly buzzing in the ear, to the remorseless ever-nearness of death-consciousness, if only that spectrum can be soothed and moulded into creative joy.
Started with Dr. Jordan Peterson, who led me to research Jung, Nietschze, Dostoyervsky and Solzhienitzin (I've butchered those names) - and now I'm here watching Terence McKenna. I wonder who next???
Yo I went from alan watts to jordan peterson to jung then to the others its high thinking people mentioning eachothers names to keep the knowledge going and us remembering it keeps it alive im way to high for this
Next up Alan Watts and Joseph Campbell
And no one that's into Terence caught that his thirst and jungs passing was in the same. Year
I used to not be able to listen to McKenna because his voice sounded like a Munchkin to me. Now I'm in love with the cadence and poetry of his words and hang on every nuance.
Slightly like my initial dislike of jazz, which eventually transformed into enjoying be-bop
The uninhibited mind; never seeks conflict.
The intellectual giant is recognized when one comprehends ..... until that point, a non-threatening oddity.☺️
jung wrote to a friend who provided him with lsd that he wouldn't want to try the substance again cause dreams provided enough unaswered problems already. what do you guys think about this?
He knew how to be responsible with his non-physical data intake. Most people write off dreaming with the cliche 'oh I never remember my dreams.' for these untrained dreamers lsd becomes necessary to have any non-physical data at all. Jung was pointing out the danger of taking in more information than your conscious mind can organize.
Great question. Coming right from Einzelgänger's introduction video, I want to highlight what Alex Light wrote: "taking in more information than your conscious mind can organize" is tempting, and easier than ever...but may backfire.
source?
@@tor678 what video?
Nice to have boundaries like solid walls of eyelids that let internalize. Do you people have enough empathy, civility, capacity to digest and cope with information?
Or r you overwhelmed? What do you like more, intake, spiritual fooling regenerative consciousness or r you internally self-abundant enough?
There's so easy agitations in the comments here, it can be used to come down been just treated quite badly whilst living in post-fashist superficial modernism.
Something I miss from this utterly great psychedelic mind is he did not prevent or do enough to avoid conflict it seems here, yet it is also quite soothing now like a Spa-shortrefuge.
Met 'The.McKenna', his Archetype nowadays alive, similair look, lived as a friend next door 1/2 year, lots similair mind directions, quite precious to have met these many of those beings. Thank consciousness. Gratitude and some uninfluenced love here.
I wish Ant would show more of this intellectual side of his on his radio show.
I herd they bumped into each other on one of the bridges that cross the water
Yes, but Jung also famously warned against gaining knowledge you did not earn. He followed his own advice: his own visions were produced on his own will and terms, the Red Book is all his own active fantasies, nothing brought about by external tinkering with our neurochemical structures to induce the visionary state.
Eliade would highlight several ways of attaining such a state when talking about shamans, and not all of them involve entheogens. The other major pathways are dreaming (conditioned or not) and ritualistic dancing. Nowadays we understand those "peak experiences" in a broader sense, and many other forms of reality-altering states are readily identified.
Now, I'm not saying Jung is right, he was rather neurotic in his categorical opposition to all neurosis, but McKenna left out an important part of the man's thinking here.
Yuri that's a very interesting take there.
Don't dabble in knowledge you haven't earned.
I'm really scared to take Psychedelics as I had a terrible and horrific incident with THC.
You're right , you can enter deep fantasy and trance states without drugs....
What's your experience with Psychedelics Yuri and how old are you?
@@zaynumar0 I'm 21, experience with psychedelics is zero aside from having friends that do them. I wanted to for the longest time, just to see what it is all about, but Jung's warning made me postpone it, and the reason why ties to another part of your comment, the alternative deep trance states.
I'm hesitant to take in psychedelics because I already seem to have very vivid visionary states without them, and I've had straight-out hallucinations before. Any drug messing with my structures, especially before I'm 25, has a chance of making me develop schizophrenia, for which I'm already in the risk group.
As such I'll continue to enter those states through the normal means, which for me are my particular peak experiences (everyone has theirs), dreaming, orgasm and so on.
@@yurijedi49 same here Yuri , I haven't touched psychedelics yet. Very unfortunately I have found out after my terrible schizophrenic weed experience , that my dad's side of the family has a history of mental health problems.
Have you ever smoked weed ?
That's amazing that you've learned how to enter mild states of lucid unconscioussness without drugs. What methods do you use ?
What country are you from?
Do you go to college ?
And now for a much more lowbrow comment: how similar McKenna's voice is to Paul Lynde?!
thats it👍💯
Correct me if I'm wrong but
Neitzsche was professor of Philology at
....Basel.
At age 24.
The back Alley tunisian knife fighter.
- if you know you know😂🥃
Sophisticated fella.
Regardless, I’d caption the thumbnail:
‘When your sister tells you your moustache tickles when you kiss’
What a MIND!
That's Steve Buscemi
It’s strange because I’ve discovered the unconscious without psychedelics. Just deep meditation. I will say it takes a lot to see it and it only last as long as my mind doesn’t get distracted, which is a few seconds. One time it was an eye in the center, with beautiful colors and patters changing within and around the eye, except for the iris, that was dark brown.
Abe Gill there’s more experiences, just too long to write. I still hope I only scratched the surface.
Abe Gill it might be a while till I try any psychedelics. I actually don’t know much about the quantity of it and the effects that come from the different doses
Abe Gill even in meditation, I get moments of “enlightenment” where there are answers that come from an unknown place, maybe deep within the psyche. Is this a form of the machine elves without hallucinating? And they are not words, it is strange to explain, but it changes my life and my perspective completely immediately after.
Abe Gill does marijuana count as an entheogen?
@@lordawesometony2764 Wouldnt everything be work of the machine elves though? I feel that marijuana can help get you near a point to where you can dimly experience things,, and that meditation would get you farther than marijuana. As someone who tries to meditate fairly regularly and has experience with psychedelics , I think psychedelics could get you to it much quicker but I've never had the visions and imagine them the same. Ram Dass has given experienced monks LSD several times and they all said, almost unequivocally, that it was not that much different than meditation, and hardly more intense. Which is a trippy concept.
Watch again.
Thanks. The signals directorates are noted.
Please where can one get the full video? Please
7:21 conscious projections into present reality. Basically can manifest visual idea to make happen in real life.
Jung revealed the distinguishing skill that catapulted Nietzsche into the league of Plato beyond perhaps even Schopenhauer, and Emerson. Nietzsche was highly trained as a classical philologist immersed in the original sources of Greek, Latin, and Hebrew. Hence, Nietzsche gained a profound knowledge of the greatest minds of antiquity and could read the source material in a direct first hand way and not rely on second hand accounts. Imagine being able to understand all the nuances of source material from the Bible in Hebrew or Plato in Greek to appreciate the nuances and meanings of texts directly rather than to accept second hand some other scholars interpretation of the passage.
Nietzsche's devastating critique of the intellectual edifice of the times originated because he knew how the professors of the time masked the truth to push an agenda, protect an intellectual moat, or just hide the truth from themselves or others for either lack of courage, intellectual depth, or other sinister reasons.
The German "professor/laughing lion" lived and breathed for the truth. Just as a world class poker player has to live, breathe and sleep poker to be a world champion, a philosopher on the Olympian level of Nietzsche has to breathe the mountain air of truth every day in a way not possible for a man involved in a daily business or practice such as Jung. Sure, the business can keep the man "grounded", but to reach Nietzsche's Olympian level and full spectrum dominance philosophical level you need the foundational basics of classical philology combined with a passion and instinct for truth based off actual reading of ancient wisdom in the original.
As German philosopher Schopenhauer observed, unless a man can read Latin and Greek in the original, there will always be a hole in the scholar's education that undermines the depth of his intellectual thought. This observation is a bitter pill for us all in a vapid age of mass media and hollow men. Nietzsche was just such an intellectual tour de force that we will probably never able to appreciate his greatness or sublime gifts to humanity. Greek and Latin are not emphasized in today's propaganda mills of liberal arts universities or even at the time of Jung when studying Latin and Greek required hard work most were not willing to endure.
The German "laughing lion" provacateur was a sublime gift to humanity, and in fact his Navy Seal like attack on the soft, descendent Western philosophers and clergy of the time came with devastating force and mountain lightning speed. Ultimately though, his attack came out of a deep love for man and his no limit potential. Once the blinders came off and courageous, disciplined men were made aware of what the actual classical and Biblical texts meant free of some political or mercenary agenda, Nietzsche allows us all to share in the love for the search for truth. In this sense, Nietzsche, in exposing the agendas of many "translations" and university moat protecting "degrees" brings us all back to ourselves and our higher man potential once we breathe the mountain air of truth, and discover how the satori clarity arising out of "will to power" makes us all free from the agendas and deception of the establishment.
Thank you so much for this comment 👍🏼
Anyone who studies Theology in Germany has to learn greek, latin and hebrew
@@d7ffab979 Perhaps, and thank you for the comment, but as a point of discussion, Nietzsche received a remarkable offer, in 1869, to become Professor of Classical Philology at the University of Basel in Switzerland. To become a Professor in Germany at the youthful age of 24 in those times, is the equivalent of Beethoven composing In 1782, before the age of 12, his first work, 9 Variations in C Minor for piano on a march by Earnst Christoph Dressler. Nietzsche was a seeming savant in classical philology. Mastering Latin, Greek, and Hebrew at Nietzsche's level compared to the "average student's" comprehension of the subject would also be equivalent to mma champion Bas Rutten in the "UFC octagon" fighting a local journeyman wrestler who took a wrestling and boxing class at the local high school. The outcome would be fast and certain, and the local wrestler "schooled" at the highest level.
The knowledge and wisdom Nietzsche gifted those of us who've read his works, came at ultimate personal cost
as do most essences of value.
He was intellectually brutal and honest unequalled in tenacity, possessed "The gift giving virtue", beknown to him or not. In my opinion,
one of the hardest men to have ever lived, yet.....
@@siyaindagulag. Spot on the mark, and thank you for sharing your astute insight on Nietzsche's life battles. As you say, it's hard to fathom the years of solitude and physical ailments he endured while producing such masterpieces. His battle maxim of life, about becoming stronger after adversity, was reflected in the intellectual force and full spectrum dominance of his writings. Ty for highlighting how much we owe to a man that suffered so greatly as he "followed his bliss" and warrior instincts up in the pure mountain air of the tallest peaks. Pacifico beer Cheers from a fellow Nietzsche afficianado.
«At one point in my life I wanted to become a union analyst»
Amazing
He reminds me of “Will” from stranger things grown up
i have only read nietsche dostroyievksy and froid but i feel like jung will blow my mind even more
I'm pretty sure it will! :)
Damn u didnt get one name right. Read again!
martin ström lol i was just about to say that ahaha
@timwins31 i already knew 90% of the things i learned from them in some way more fogged imagination but i think every human being must be at least informed about these incredible human species. i never read a book in school it bored me and never got my attention cause it was all useless stuff like one sentence from nietzsche is equal to 12 years of school lol
Jung studied nietzsche and worked with Freud, he is the craziest author I had ever read, being 23 yo and understanding Jung changed my entire life, he was really brilliant and hard work oriented. You won't regret reading Jung. The best book in my opinion (even tho I liked them all) is the archetype and the unconscious colective you can start with that one if you have a great knowledge about what he is talking about.
how lovely
There is a problem in modern academia, with segregation of knowledge
I’m curious about what he would say about Wilhelm Reich
Did he appear on the Boss Drum album by The Shamen...
Was this the whole talk? Does anyone have any idea where I can find the whole thing?
I was 15 too learned from tool 46 and 2
how do you feel about fear inoculum ?
@@norseca542 I love it it's orchestrated beautifully. Drums guitar Maynard melodic voice!
I started reading Jung after finding him through Tool lyrics too
@@robertdavis8357 hey look up eyedea-powderd water 2-its deep and skip 40 seconds in
who is mentioned at 5:40? cannot find the proper name anywhere
Mircea Eliade
always earns my rapt
attention each word
being tasty mind candy
So basically, if you read lots of Jung and do acid you're more likely to trip about Jungien concepts and create an embodiment of archetypes because you learned about them!
@Everything Person .. Heavy Man! acid rare here now. Es took over decades ago. Shrooms will be growing here soon though..
Noetic archeologist
Pure reverence!
'I'll have what *he'*s having!' :)
same
Terence seems to have a photographic memory.
I find it interesting that McKenna is highly influenced by Jung but at the same token, he hates Nietzsche.
Nietzsche is by far Jung's greatest influence when it comes to his studies of the individuation process.
4:11 can someone tell me what set hes referring to here?
REmemeber : *"The map isn't the territory !"* hehe .•°
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Good one, haha!
It's the *"territories"*
Where can i find this book abouy mercy liad?
McKenna looks crazy
I didn’t know Steve Buscemi was so well read
I think both Freud and Jung were valid.
Where should I start with reading Jung? I am very interested but don’t know where to start
What is most important to you about life or self? I grabbed a torrent of all his work and I'm choosing to start from the beginning myself.
Jeremy Holmes I just ordered Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious so I guess I’ll start there! Thanks for the help
What is the book he mentions about alchemy and minerals?