Correction: even in 96mp interval photo mode, qoocam 3 ultra has GPS metadata. Here are sample videos with and without the fan noise. These were uploaded via mobile ruclips.net/p/PLtGqGHDrZeFhHQOS_W_6eBr1XCSKMjxFh&si=0wSOxcFgF8ww-8BL
You can choose to have it never break, or break into 10, 20, or 30 min intervals. If you choose intervals, the desktop app will offer to combine them seamlessly.
thanks for clarifying. This is a potential key advantage over the X4 since it still creates a number of lost frames. Insta360 could fix that with a firmware update.
@@AlteroThai OK just tested it. It still breaks files up into 29:59 segments but if you import them both as a project it does seem to do a good job of connecting the files. At 8K 25fps it recorded for 41 minutes continuously before the battery gave up.
Thanks dalandan. Hugh Hou also has a comparison but he uses a static scene and shot them with a tripod. If you shoot that way, you can check out his test too.
@@THEDJM_ x4 has a log profile that is more like a flat color. Qoocam also has a flat color profile although x4 log looks more flat. Both can connect external mic. For x4 you need an insta360 mic adapter for around $10. Qoocam ultra can connect to an external usb microphone. Both can also connect to Bluetooth mic.
When you did your overheating test and filmed 7 hours on qoocam was that continous shooting? I want to film long * up to 5 hour music rehersal and performance videos off a tripod nonstop.
@@NusantaraArts sorry, that’s a unique feature of insta360 cameras. BUT qoocam showed their roadmap and for September, they plan to implement in-camera stitching (no need to stitch on a pc!). That’s pretty wild. If true then you would be able to import the footage directly into premiere.
Thanks Mic. Simply question. My workflow on the X4 is to reframe in the Insta360 Desktop Studio App for Mac and then export the footage for post production in FCPX. I'm not finding a QooCam Desktop App for Mac. So, how do I reframe these videos for post in FCPX?
In the video quality section you mention the x4 generally being worse due to the levels of compression and associated artefacts, but I think you also say you’ve seen it actually be better on the x4 in some scenarios too. This is something someone made a comment about on Hugh’s comparison video too. Do you have any insights into when the X4 up’s it’s game (or vice versa)? and/or what this happens?
@@GareyCooperdude yes. You use qoocam studio 2.0 to “reframe” the footage meaning convert the 360 video into a non-360 video that you keyframe the way you want. For example it could be pointing ahead then the view changes to point to you. After you export the reframed version, you can import that video into Final Cut just like any other video.
Nobody is showing the Qoocam framing software in use... which would be my biggest reservation about buying it. I know the Insta360 software is probably pretty robust by now... but I haven't heard of Qoocam until yesterday.
Hi choppergirl. The Qoocam Studio software is similar to Insta360 Studio: 1. load the photos and videos. 2. If you want to reframe a video, click on the dropdown box and choose reframe. 3. In the reframe screen, you can click on AI Track to track any subject or... 4. Keyframe: drag the screen, scroll to zoom, and click the keyframe button to add a keyframe. 5. Just like Insta360 Studio, you'll find options on the right side for changing the stitching mode, or the stabilization mode. 6. When you're done adding keyframes, click export button on the bottom right. Choose your preferred export options and either add to queue or export directly.
@@360vroomers Someone needs to cover it, because all the Qoocam review videos seem to entirely leave the workflow in the Qoocam software... suspiciously... out. Maybe it's expected you do this in your own video editor program, but my old video editor can't do that... so it'd have to be done in the camera software first. Also, I don't have an up to date modern smart phone... so... it's a big mystery to me... how am I going to register either of these cameras. I tried to download the Insta360 android app to my phone the other day and it said... nope... not compatible.. Android 7 and 11 is too old, or your phones hardware specs... not up to our requirements. So these things kind of need to be covered in a video right off the bat before a buyer... is going to buy because... the big question is always going to be for a buyer... can I even get this thing to work for me? With what I have for hardware.. and software.
Very similar to insta360. Just connect usb c to your pc. The qoocam will ask if you want to use u-disk transfer mode. Then the qoocam will act like a usb thumb drive. Copy all files to your hard drive. Then open the files in qoocam studio 2.0. In Studio you can auto track or keyframe movements, etc. then you export directly or to a queue. If you do a queue then you can render all on your queue automatically while you have lunch or dinner or something.
Since it just has that soft bag without lense caps: How do you avoid damaginh the lens when laying it on a desk or so? And do you have any scratches on it so far?
I have a small camera bag that also works as a lens cap. Never ever put the camera lens on any hard surface. If I don’t have a camera bag, I stand it on its side. The camera bag I use is lowepro portland 30. I can’t find it anymore but this one is kind of similar amzn.to/3yrAluo
Hi Peter. Yes it has a fan. The fan can be set to quiet or max performance. In max performance, it can be heard if you are close to it. Outdoors, I can't hear it unless I put it close to my ear.
@360vroomers after 2yr they really didn't update x4 from x3. Atleast they could have given a bigger sensor. I want qoocam to give very tough competition to insta. Monopoly is really bad
Could you please provide a seld shot sample video, preferrably one outdoor walking in a rather quiet environment and one indoor (since nobody showed indoor videos) in 8k360 pls? :)
As the qoocam 3 it looks like the ultra overexposes by at least 1 stop blowing out the highlights. One thing I really hate is that they have a maximum 150mbps data rate. They're pushing 25% more data on bitrate with 10-bit, but they have 25% less bitrate than the x4 8bit. They really need to create an optional software unlock for those of us with high quality memory cards to really be able to create better captures. And a triple woof on the rendering times. Qoocam studio processing footage from the 3 even a month ago would bring my PC to a halt on any other work because it would max out the threads without any way to tell it to only use say only 90% of system resources so I could at least browse the web while rendering without stuttering on my 32 thread 128GB ram rendering desktop.
@@360vroomers I don't think it's you. I ran into the same issue on the qoocam 3. To be fair though I have to lower the x3/x4 by 0.7 stops and gopro 11/12's by at least 0.5 stops in most situations. In fact with the x3/x4 in some situations like recording a show in a theater with bright stage and dark audience I have to lower the x3/x4 by 3 to 4 stops or just set it manual because it seems like 360 cameras tend to either average exposure across the full 360 or tries to expose based off of of any large dark areas leaving bright areas completely unusable due to extreme blow out. I've suggested to insta360 to allow selecting an exposure point in software, but it's so far fallen on deaf ears. The problems with the averaged auto exposure on 360 outside of theaters is that during times like sunset you end up getting tons of color banding in recovery or have your sky blown out. It could also be fixed with allowing custom log curves like gopro has through labs, but alas that is another request that has fallen on deaf ears. Hopefully more people will request it because I can't tell you how many times labs bitrate and log curves has helped save footage that would be bad/worse without the manually unlocked features. As a side note I really appreciate your work and please keep it up!
@@360vroomers any chance you have a caliper to measure the exact dimensions on millimeters of the 3 Ultra. Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere and they don't list it on the website
Hey there :) thought you wanted to upload a fan noise sample especially videos with fan indoor, but also fan captured by external mic etc 🙈 will they come anytime soon? :)
Yes it is possible but there would be very little benefit. You would need to use qoocam studio to stitch the ultra video into a 360 video then import that 360 video into insta360 studio for keyframing or Al tracking. But qoocam studio 2.8’s ai tracking is already quite good. And its keyframing options are also pretty good.
@@360vroomers Thanks for the reply... I think I was thinking of the insta app that has the cool AI effects vs the qoo studio... amazing how the gopro max 2 sure looks like the Qoocam..
@@herrlehmann6855 thanks! I used mega, which is somewhat like dewarp but is wider. It is like ultra wide but with less distortion. So it has the advantages of both.
@@360vroomers thank you for quick response! so your comparison is absolutely fair as the mode determines the image quality of the Insta360 X4 drastically. Dewarp delivers lower sharpness and significantly more noise, Ultra is slightly better but Mega delivers the best image quality, more sharpnes & details and less noise.
@@360vroomers this might be a dumb question, but is there a way to take 2 mirrorless DSLR cameras (probably attached base to base to minimize lens spacing) to capture 3D images & video? Thanks and subscribed!
@@RetiredEE thanks! It’s not a dumb question and there are some camera rigs similar to that. But it’s challenging to use for several reasons. First, the cameras have to be synchronized exactly. Second, the workflow for editing is not easy either.
You've had 3 ultra for a while now, how do you feel the video quality is compared to x4? Would you switch from x4 or is it barely noticeable during day?
Yes I think it’s because insta360 studio can use CUDA (for Nvidia GPUs). But I’m not sure. But yes definitely much faster to render on insta360 studio.
@@360vroomers Thank you for the response. I'm very happy with my X4. It should be good for a few years before I upgrade again. I think the X5 is going to be amazing.
Even though the Ultra is more detailed and has less noise in low light (probably bec of the larger sensor and wider aperture), the X4 can hold its own in low light.
@@Splexon763 for a casual user, they probably won’t care about the difference. I think the difference will be more noticeable to enthusiasts and people who do a lot of video editing.
Thank you for the brilliant review, I had a question about the lens protection,Is it scratch resistant like the one in the x4 accessories, or is it just like the normal lens cover included with insta360 x4? Because of the price tag , I wondered to find out more about it before preorder the camera
I don’t have the lens protector so I’m not sure. I will try to find out from them. Fwiw I have both glass and plastic protectors for x4 and the glass one is no better than the plastic one in terms of glare resistance
Thanks Mike for this comparison. Finally, the X4 is not completely dethroned. It is certain, the Ultra has advantages but I think I will wait for the release of the Max 2 before making a decision. 👍
@@PP3D Thats what Im thinking also. I already got X4. Its low light capability keeps bugging me. May be I should wait to see max2. Hopefully it will come out this year but I havent heard a clue about release date.
@@360vroomers Uhh great! Could you please do a test running with the camera (handheld) to check it they fixed the jitter issues e.g. reviewer @hughhou found in his drone video?
After the 7 hours of running how was the focus on the 3 Ultra? The big problem about the 8k was that it would heat.up and loose focus and I'm hoping that this doesn't do that.
@@geekinthegarden3927 It has lower temperature due to its fan than the Insta360 X4 so I guess this is solved now. How do you see that it is loosing focus? Blurred image? Will receive my Qoocam 3 Ultra soon :)
hello, I just bought x4 recently, do you know if any different in the 360 recording when thermo grip cover is attached / not? as I can see on the x4 setting if thermo is attached or not, I'm wondering if any different like the stiching bit worse when it is attached due less point of view (blocked a bit by thermo cover), etc? I never see the comparison on any youtube channel. thanks
Hi I don’t have thermo grip but my understanding is that the thermo grip shows up a bit in normal stitching so a different stitching setting is needed.
Mick, love the comparison, as always impartial and clear, just a quick question, as the 8k is sitting in a drawer somewhere, never been used to potential, do you think Qoocam have learnt lessons and can they be trusted to launch a non beta product this time? Hope you are well mate, keep smiling👍
@@MrMaryhinge thanks! The ultra is far more polished than the qoocam 8k. Moreover, they have been improving the ultra at a rapid pace. For example, the 2.8 version was made just a week after the 2.7 release. Having said that, kandao is a much smaller company than insta360. Although ultra is the most polished kandao camera I’ve tried, it still has minor bugs like the camera crashing (rarely). I still brought it with me to a trip to Japan and so far it has been my primary camera. But if you want 99.9999% no bugs (as opposed to 99.0% for example), I would wait maybe 6 months or a year.
do you have a download link where we can download two 8k test stitched video you shot in real world conditions, one from qoocam3 ultra and the second from insta360 x4 so we can put them in a quest 2 to check image quality ? do you have a free video playback app for quest 2 to recommend that can replay in 8K vr 360 ( the youtube app is limited to 4k playback on quest2) ?
Hey there :) Do you happen to know a quick mount for the Qoocam 3 Ultra? I had one for the Insta360 X4, but the camera wobbles a bit. With all the other quick mounts I've tried, you can see it because it's outside the stitch line due to its size. :/
@360vroomers Hm not even a bit? Since even slight clatter would also destroy the audio :/. I already ordered one some time ago. Furthermore I am not sure if it can hold so much more weight over its spec...
@@360vroomers Twice the weight is probably the biggest flaw, especially for motovlog, extreme sport and 3m selfie stick. Even with bigger and havier body, it can pack only a little better capability than an X4. I seriously doubt a max2 now. Hopefully it has at least 1/1.5 sensor.
On insta360 extended selfie stick v2, I recommend not using the last / thinnest segment. I also would not wave it with a lot of force such as bouncing while mounted on a car exterior.
Another solid review! I saw the comment about purple fringing. Would you be willing to share some of your DNG files so I could check them out and manipulate them on my own computer? I want to see how significant the issue really is.
Did I read somewhere that the Qoocam is twice the weight of the X4? LOL, what kind of mount can handle that extra weight with vibrations from cycling and other sports. Not to mention trying to hold something like that with a selfie stick 🥹.
The exact weight w battery is 336 grams. If you notice, my wrist was bent from the weight of carrying both the x4 and ultra. But by itself, it’s not bad even on a 5ft long selfie stick.
Thank you again for another detailed, objective and impartial video. Qoocam's product is physically much thicker. Won't this always make stitching imperfect and noticeable?
Thanks! The thickness isn’t a major factor. For example, one RS 1-inch 360 is thicker than the ultra. The more tricky issue is that the lenses are offset, which is harder to stitch. But with the new software, the stitching has looked pretty good. Just need to be more mindful of the stitch line and don’t put anything important close to the camera along the stitch line.
I was lucky. Just bought a new regular qoocam 3 for 200 euros from amazon. Planning to use it or vacation and nature walks. The quality is good enough and in the future if necessary I can use AI upscaling in it, but it seems to work just fine. Only problem with it is the stitching is not the best but I can live with it.
It still looks like the X4 edges out the Qoocam because of design and editing workflow. Its great to see some competition though. My prediction is that gopro will put out the Max2 that will be just as crisp as the qoocam 3 ultra, 10 bit, but it will be $499-$550. We shall see.
Thanks Eric. Yes it’s a question of image quality vs usability. Both are excellent cameras with no glaring weaknesses. As for max 2, I’m looking forward to it as well. I hope gopro spent their research money wisely.
Hi, great comparison thank you for your work. I heard that all 5.7k modes on qoocam 3 ultra utilise downsampling from 8k. Even the 60 fps mode. It would be really interesting to compare quality of this two cameras at 5.7k 60 fps.
Yes you are right @~4:45 must have glanced over it. Unfortunately does not help me. Way to much action for me. My use case is as VR camera so stationary and pixel peeping. Thanks anyway 👍
Very good video, does anyone know if at some point Qoocam will release a mobile app like Insta360? Can the PC program be put in Spanish? Thank you very much in advance.
@@SuT4G4Racing qoocam 3 app is similar to insta360 but there are fewer special effects. I can’t change the app language. It’s in English. The desktop app is in English too.
@@amanieux salut mon ami. I haven’t done a side by side comparison but I believe the gopro Omni will produce better image quality because it has a higher ratio of sensor size vs resolution. However, the ultra has far better stitching. If the stitching is at all a consideration, then I think ultra is overall a better camera.
The colors on the ultra look pretty off. Perhaps can be corrected but that seems like a lot of work. Also purple fringing is pretty bad. Perhaps the lens just isn't that great. Oh well I will see when mine arrives because I did order one in a lack of impulse control haha.
@@SpaklesDr congrats getting ultra. re ultra’s colors, i disagree. Imho they are more similar to the actual colors. For example, my skin tone with x4 might be more flattering but in real life my skin tone is more similar to ultra. Ditto re colors of grass and trees etc. And if you don’t like ultra’s colors, i have found them easier to adjust bec the video is 10bit (pls note i am not a colorist). Re fringing, qoocam studio has a defringing checkbox, which reduces it.
Why doesn't anyone say that the Qoocam Ultra are essentially without the HDR mode? It is there, but it only works with 10-bit color, and Quest 2, for example, does not support 10-bit, only 8-bit, and not only Quest 2. So for 360 video Qoocam Ultra there is no hdr mode
Actually that’s not true. The hdr video mode of X4 works through quad bayer sensor using subpixels with a darker exposure. The qoocam ultra also has this HDR mode. In addition, qoocam can shoot in 10bit HLG.
@@360vroomers I'm sorry, I didn't see the HDR in Qoocam Ultra settings, there is only Dynamic Range and it doesn't work if you don't switch to 10-bit color.
Right now the ultra 3 has significant stitching errors especially with photos. Not so noticeable in videos but the photos are unusable in VR because the stitching errors stick out like a sore thumb! Nobody is talking about it but Kandao has no immediate fix for the problem.
@@Dvm2003 whether they are significant or not is up to each user. That’s why I’ve uploaded samples. I think in your case, if you want perfect or near perfect stitching with very high quality, I think a dslr pano would be best for you.
@@360vroomers I agree and I am heading that direction. Insta360 products and Xphase have much better stitching so I was hoping the ultra 3 would be the best of both worlds. The images are really good except for the stitching issues.
I’m traveling right now so I can’t test them but my impression is that in low light, one RS has less noise while ultra has more detail. That’s just my impression from memory so I could be wrong.
I've been watching 8K 360 videos in the Quest 3 shot with the X4 and 3 Ultra and what I have noticed that distant faces look completely distorted in the X4 videos. Also other distant objects like trees look over sharpened.
Feedback, I desperately want 10 bit Video, I have the X4, will buy another 360 camera but two things that have put me off, battery life, and the stitching still doesn’t look good enough. A secondary issue is the software, so close, but it’s just not quite, good enough to take my easily given money.
@@Coatsey007 I can understand. I think it really depends on how important image quality is for you. If it is very important, then you might overlook these foibles. Also, fyi ultra will be selling extra batteries, and a very slim charger case.
The stitching is way better than past qoocam cameras but it’s like gopro max that keeps changing if something is close to the camera along the stitch line.
Thanks a lot for your review! :) I am a bit disappointed that you did not say a word (and did not tested it) about the internal fan, the spatial audio that is also stabilized etc.
In ordinary usage I couldn’t hear the fan. I only hear it on long recordings in quiet indoor environments. The Spatial Audio is very nice for 360 video but I don’t usually do 360 videos (I care more about reframed video). Even in reframed video, the sound will change depending on how you keyframe it.
@@360vroomers Thank you! :) So you don't hear it indor for short recordings, doing images etc? I have the Pro 2 and it always runs at max speed even when not filming as loud as a cheap notebook on max power tasks. So even using an external ambisonic mic will capture the fan noise pretty loud making any video recordings with audio while fan is running unsuable. 😅 Even if the Ultra is just 1/2 as loud it would still annoy everyone around 🙈
@@360vroomers I think that the minimal interval for timelapse video is 0.5 secs - which will make the speed of the video unacceptable. I am looking for 2 to 5 times speed up.
For photo, I would choose ultra unless you want zero editing. For video, I’m not sure yet. I’m traveling now and brought both. At the end of the trip I will probably have a better idea. My guess is ultra for the video quality.
@@Splexon763 hi this is the side by side at full 4k resolution. 8k resolution is available only for 360 videos. It is not possible to do side by side for 360 videos.
Great test and comparison! Insta360 X4 is certainly behind and not the number 1 in todays 360 camera's . Hopefully that next year they will release the X5 with huge improvements
Got my Qoocam 3 Ultra finally... footage unusable for VR when walking (normally, not "gimbal sneaking") while filming, especially when camera is not in direct sunlight. All larger, non vibration like movements are stabilized but all bumps and minor shakes (e.g. walking down a stair outdoory walking a bit faster, and so on) cause the video to disturb/blur for the bump durstion. No camera from Insta360 I had before (1-RS 1 Inch, Pro 2) had this issue. So for me this feels like a joke... why is my Insta360 Pro 2 that is not made for beeing walked around in a backpack so much better in stabilizing shocks from walking than a camera advertised for action sport. I am so sad...I was so hyped for this cam, the support promised to fix this before arrival, they released Stitching Software V2.8 but still the same issue it seems. PS: Your app doesn't work too... I am connected as described with the cam but no live feed even though I can watch the thumbnails of saved videos (but I can't play them) - Galaxy S21 Ultra. What a pity. ---- Besides that I can confirm that the fan is running for 13-16min without audible fan noise (fan always on but inaudible at lowest setting if more then 50cm away). After that it kicks in quite loud so all ambisonic recordings ruines but lavalier with noise cancelling should still work. Hope the recording time with silent fan can be increased some day (not by changing the temp limit, this us already crazy hot). But yeah...the thing I was scared most was no real issue. But not beeing able to record handheld while moving the camera converts it to a photo camera or stationary video camera only. And for that the quality is not good enough (even with your 0,5gb large dng files or AEB). --- For Reframing the disturbed image is annoying but not thaaat much of an deal I guess (?)... but for VR you get motion sick instantly.
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Does not take much to dethrone the trash that instacrap put out. It was never good and tbh no one was on top as subpar products are just that. I have been thrashing on insta360 before it was cool and all the clowns were getting resell links and pushing instas x4. It was never good, it still sucks after the update, and the Qoocam was my anticipated camera. Sadly, like the X4 no one has provided pure raw 360 files which is what I use it for. I don't reframe, pointless for what I need it for. However, if the noise is removed and they fix their color science and that purple hue in the sky... And the jello effect in timelapse.. then it could be on top.
it is too obvious you have been paid by qoocam.....so next time you make some comparison video like this...try hard not to be shown you are sold...ok???
@@360vroomersGoPro would need to put a metric shittonne into their editing software in order to come close to Insta360. I'm mean insta360 has its faults, bit their free software is pretty fucking good.
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Correction: even in 96mp interval photo mode, qoocam 3 ultra has GPS metadata.
Here are sample videos with and without the fan noise. These were uploaded via mobile ruclips.net/p/PLtGqGHDrZeFhHQOS_W_6eBr1XCSKMjxFh&si=0wSOxcFgF8ww-8BL
@@360vroomersPjuh glad to hear that, please pin this comment, already was about to ask their support about that. :)
@@360vroomers And thanks for always keeping us updated!
@@captteemo9133 added another video to the playlist, with indoor footage
@@360vroomers My man 😍 thanks a lot
@360vroomers on your analysis which one you suggest to buy
5:51 are you sure, that Insta360 doest have any flat\log color profile?
hmmm that realy dont have log mode on x4 camera. Say please what same color profile you've used on video: flat, standart or vivid?
Hi x4 has a flat profile although it is not that flat. In this video I used standard profile for both x4 and ultra.
5:36 no any bitrate settings on camera or when you rendering it the Insta360 app? Looks not cool
@@BurkoDnipro I used the highest bitrate setting for both cameras for this test.
Did you answer if the Ultra has continuous video recording or does it break video files down into the old 29:59 length?
You can choose to have it never break, or break into 10, 20, or 30 min intervals. If you choose intervals, the desktop app will offer to combine them seamlessly.
thanks for clarifying.
This is a potential key advantage over the X4 since it still creates a number of lost frames. Insta360 could fix that with a firmware update.
@@VirtualTourPhotographer Are you sure about that? I thought this issue was resolved in X4. Some reviewers said so.
@@AlteroThaiI may have missed that.
I’ll run a test on it today
@@AlteroThai OK just tested it. It still breaks files up into 29:59 segments but if you import them both as a project it does seem to do a good job of connecting the files. At 8K 25fps it recorded for 41 minutes continuously before the battery gave up.
thank you for being the first to do the comparison.
Thanks dalandan. Hugh Hou also has a comparison but he uses a static scene and shot them with a tripod. If you shoot that way, you can check out his test too.
*Does the 100fps, instantly put it into slow motion or can it be normal speed at this rate?*
Log footage??
How about connecting mic to it??
@@THEDJM_ x4 has a log profile that is more like a flat color. Qoocam also has a flat color profile although x4 log looks more flat. Both can connect external mic. For x4 you need an insta360 mic adapter for around $10. Qoocam ultra can connect to an external usb microphone. Both can also connect to Bluetooth mic.
@@360vroomers :- thanks a lot...
@@THEDJM_ hi sorry I just remembered - qoocam does have log. In fact it can shoot rec2020 HLG.
When you did your overheating test and filmed 7 hours on qoocam was that continous shooting? I want to film long * up to 5 hour music rehersal and performance videos off a tripod nonstop.
Yes it was continuous. The qoocam was connected to a usb power source.
@@360vroomersAlso wondering, can you edit directly in premiere instead of stitching video on the qoocam app first?
@@NusantaraArts sorry, that’s a unique feature of insta360 cameras. BUT qoocam showed their roadmap and for September, they plan to implement in-camera stitching (no need to stitch on a pc!). That’s pretty wild. If true then you would be able to import the footage directly into premiere.
@4:45 audio switched to stereo? Caught me off guard on my tablet
Sorry yes my rode wireless mic was misbehaving and I was forced to use the in-camera mic.
Thanks Mic. Simply question. My workflow on the X4 is to reframe in the Insta360 Desktop Studio App for Mac and then export the footage for post production in FCPX. I'm not finding a QooCam Desktop App for Mac. So, how do I reframe these videos for post in FCPX?
Ok they said the Mac app will be released this week.
In the video quality section you mention the x4 generally being worse due to the levels of compression and associated artefacts, but I think you also say you’ve seen it actually be better on the x4 in some scenarios too. This is something someone made a comment about on Hugh’s comparison video too. Do you have any insights into when the X4 up’s it’s game (or vice versa)? and/or what this happens?
Hi Dom. I believe when you have small details, they are more likely to get blurred away due to compression.
Will the X4 ever get AEB?
Insta360 said they will fix the HDR mode to allow individual exposures to be downloaded. But hasnt happened yet.
Can you use Final Cut Pro with this camera?
@@GareyCooperdude yes. You use qoocam studio 2.0 to “reframe” the footage meaning convert the 360 video into a non-360 video that you keyframe the way you want. For example it could be pointing ahead then the view changes to point to you. After you export the reframed version, you can import that video into Final Cut just like any other video.
Thanks for this. You helped me make up my mind. Surprised more people aren't talking about the Qoocam. Not as agressive marketing maybe?
Awesome quality content as always Mic!
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Thanks Tiago! I’ll check out the icon Air.
Nobody is showing the Qoocam framing software in use... which would be my biggest reservation about buying it.
I know the Insta360 software is probably pretty robust by now... but I haven't heard of Qoocam until yesterday.
Hi choppergirl. The Qoocam Studio software is similar to Insta360 Studio:
1. load the photos and videos.
2. If you want to reframe a video, click on the dropdown box and choose reframe.
3. In the reframe screen, you can click on AI Track to track any subject or...
4. Keyframe: drag the screen, scroll to zoom, and click the keyframe button to add a keyframe.
5. Just like Insta360 Studio, you'll find options on the right side for changing the stitching mode, or the stabilization mode.
6. When you're done adding keyframes, click export button on the bottom right. Choose your preferred export options and either add to queue or export directly.
@@360vroomers Someone needs to cover it, because all the Qoocam review videos seem to entirely leave the workflow in the Qoocam software... suspiciously... out.
Maybe it's expected you do this in your own video editor program, but my old video editor can't do that... so it'd have to be done in the camera software first.
Also, I don't have an up to date modern smart phone... so... it's a big mystery to me... how am I going to register either of these cameras. I tried to download the Insta360 android app to my phone the other day and it said... nope... not compatible.. Android 7 and 11 is too old, or your phones hardware specs... not up to our requirements.
So these things kind of need to be covered in a video right off the bat before a buyer... is going to buy because... the big question is always going to be for a buyer... can I even get this thing to work for me? With what I have for hardware.. and software.
Hello, what is the workflow to transfer the internal files from the Ultra3 to your computer using the usb c cable? thanks
Very similar to insta360. Just connect usb c to your pc. The qoocam will ask if you want to use u-disk transfer mode. Then the qoocam will act like a usb thumb drive. Copy all files to your hard drive. Then open the files in qoocam studio 2.0. In Studio you can auto track or keyframe movements, etc. then you export directly or to a queue. If you do a queue then you can render all on your queue automatically while you have lunch or dinner or something.
@@360vroomers Thanks
Since it just has that soft bag without lense caps: How do you avoid damaginh the lens when laying it on a desk or so? And do you have any scratches on it so far?
I have a small camera bag that also works as a lens cap. Never ever put the camera lens on any hard surface. If I don’t have a camera bag, I stand it on its side. The camera bag I use is lowepro portland 30. I can’t find it anymore but this one is kind of similar amzn.to/3yrAluo
@@360vroomers Thank you very much! :)
Is there an internal fan? If yes, how noisy is it?
Hi Peter. Yes it has a fan. The fan can be set to quiet or max performance. In max performance, it can be heard if you are close to it. Outdoors, I can't hear it unless I put it close to my ear.
@@360vroomers Does the internal mic pick up the fan noise?
Why insta dont give update for 10bit hdr in x4?
The hardware doesn't support it. It's not something you can just add through a firmware update if the hardware can't do it.
@360vroomers after 2yr they really didn't update x4 from x3. Atleast they could have given a bigger sensor.
I want qoocam to give very tough competition to insta. Monopoly is really bad
@@360vroomers ^
Could you please provide a seld shot sample video, preferrably one outdoor walking in a rather quiet environment and one indoor (since nobody showed indoor videos) in 8k360 pls? :)
Ok no problem I will take a shot and upload tomorrow.
@@360vroomers Great, thank you very much! :)
It's good to see new competition, I will keep my X4 and see what's next in 2 years 👍
Yes it should be interesting!
Looked on their website, couldn't find the camera weight. How heavy is it? Looks way heavier than x4 , which would be problematic in some instances.
Which side is which?
And what is the sharpness setting, codec h264/h265 and bitrate e.t.c?
Left side is x4, right side is ultra
How can we get Qoocam studio v2.8? Great review, I was waiting on this before I ordered. Have now ordered the Ultra
@@RodLittle congrats Rod! Re 2.8, just go to file… check for updates to make sure you have the newest version.
@@360vroomers I did that, no update and still on 2.7
@@Sturhm I’ll check w kandao but I think it will be rolled out very soon.
As the qoocam 3 it looks like the ultra overexposes by at least 1 stop blowing out the highlights. One thing I really hate is that they have a maximum 150mbps data rate. They're pushing 25% more data on bitrate with 10-bit, but they have 25% less bitrate than the x4 8bit. They really need to create an optional software unlock for those of us with high quality memory cards to really be able to create better captures. And a triple woof on the rendering times. Qoocam studio processing footage from the 3 even a month ago would bring my PC to a halt on any other work because it would max out the threads without any way to tell it to only use say only 90% of system resources so I could at least browse the web while rendering without stuttering on my 32 thread 128GB ram rendering desktop.
I think maybe I’m not converting the rec2020 HLG properly to rec709. I will upload unedited samples so you can see for yourself.
@@360vroomers I don't think it's you. I ran into the same issue on the qoocam 3. To be fair though I have to lower the x3/x4 by 0.7 stops and gopro 11/12's by at least 0.5 stops in most situations.
In fact with the x3/x4 in some situations like recording a show in a theater with bright stage and dark audience I have to lower the x3/x4 by 3 to 4 stops or just set it manual because it seems like 360 cameras tend to either average exposure across the full 360 or tries to expose based off of of any large dark areas leaving bright areas completely unusable due to extreme blow out. I've suggested to insta360 to allow selecting an exposure point in software, but it's so far fallen on deaf ears.
The problems with the averaged auto exposure on 360 outside of theaters is that during times like sunset you end up getting tons of color banding in recovery or have your sky blown out. It could also be fixed with allowing custom log curves like gopro has through labs, but alas that is another request that has fallen on deaf ears. Hopefully more people will request it because I can't tell you how many times labs bitrate and log curves has helped save footage that would be bad/worse without the manually unlocked features.
As a side note I really appreciate your work and please keep it up!
@@360vroomers any chance you have a caliper to measure the exact dimensions on millimeters of the 3 Ultra. Unfortunately I can't find it anywhere and they don't list it on the website
Hey there :) thought you wanted to upload a fan noise sample especially videos with fan indoor, but also fan captured by external mic etc 🙈 will they come anytime soon? :)
Here it is ruclips.net/p/PLtGqGHDrZeFhHQOS_W_6eBr1XCSKMjxFh&si=0wSOxcFgF8ww-8BL
@@360vroomers You are the king 😍 thanks a lot!
is there any way to use the qoocam footage on the insta360 software ???
Yes it is possible but there would be very little benefit. You would need to use qoocam studio to stitch the ultra video into a 360 video then import that 360 video into insta360 studio for keyframing or Al tracking. But qoocam studio 2.8’s ai tracking is already quite good. And its keyframing options are also pretty good.
@@360vroomers Thanks for the reply... I think I was thinking of the insta app that has the cool AI effects vs the qoo studio... amazing how the gopro max 2 sure looks like the Qoocam..
Hello, question please.
Does qoocam 3 ultra give access to the two circular raw photos before assembly ?
Yes it has unstitched photos in DNG mode.
Great review again, thank you! One Question: which mode did you use on the insta360 x4? dewarp, ultra or mega? looks like you used dewarp?
@@herrlehmann6855 thanks! I used mega, which is somewhat like dewarp but is wider. It is like ultra wide but with less distortion. So it has the advantages of both.
@@360vroomers thank you for quick response! so your comparison is absolutely fair as the mode determines the image quality of the Insta360 X4 drastically. Dewarp delivers lower sharpness and significantly more noise, Ultra is slightly better but Mega delivers the best image quality, more sharpnes & details and less noise.
Interesting review. Did I understand well? GPS only up to 24MP? No GPS if you shoot stills in 96MP?
Thanks. kandao corrected me and said that in interval photo mode, GPS will work at 96mp (but 96mp will not have DR boost).
@@360vroomers Thanks, Michael. So... single photo too, I guess. Do you know where I can find sample photos shot at 96mp?
@@360vroomers this might be a dumb question, but is there a way to take 2 mirrorless DSLR cameras (probably attached base to base to minimize lens spacing) to capture 3D images & video? Thanks and subscribed!
@@RetiredEE thanks! It’s not a dumb question and there are some camera rigs similar to that. But it’s challenging to use for several reasons. First, the cameras have to be synchronized exactly. Second, the workflow for editing is not easy either.
You've had 3 ultra for a while now, how do you feel the video quality is compared to x4? Would you switch from x4 or is it barely noticeable during day?
@@Splexon763 I’m traveling right now and I brought both x4 and ultra but I didn’t bring my laptop so I can’t really compare until I get home.
Thank you for the awesome comparison video. Exporting takes 3X longer... ouch!
Yes I think it’s because insta360 studio can use CUDA (for Nvidia GPUs). But I’m not sure. But yes definitely much faster to render on insta360 studio.
@@360vroomers Thank you for the response. I'm very happy with my X4. It should be good for a few years before I upgrade again. I think the X5 is going to be amazing.
Is a low light capability much different ? I already got x4 and I'm not sure whether I should upgrade.
Even though the Ultra is more detailed and has less noise in low light (probably bec of the larger sensor and wider aperture), the X4 can hold its own in low light.
Trying to decide as well, which way are you leaning? Is the day 8k that much better on the 3 ultra?
@@Splexon763 for a casual user, they probably won’t care about the difference. I think the difference will be more noticeable to enthusiasts and people who do a lot of video editing.
Thank you for the brilliant review, I had a question about the lens protection,Is it scratch resistant like the one in the x4 accessories, or is it just like the normal lens cover included with insta360 x4?
Because of the price tag , I wondered to find out more about it before preorder the camera
Good question It’s a lens protector like on x4 but it’s clip on instead of screw on.
Is the protector glass or plastic?
@@Splexon763I want to know that too
I don’t have the lens protector so I’m not sure. I will try to find out from them. Fwiw I have both glass and plastic protectors for x4 and the glass one is no better than the plastic one in terms of glare resistance
Thanks Mike for this comparison.
Finally, the X4 is not completely dethroned. It is certain, the Ultra has advantages but I think I will wait for the release of the Max 2 before making a decision. 👍
@@PP3D Thats what Im thinking also. I already got X4. Its low light capability keeps bugging me. May be I should wait to see max2. Hopefully it will come out this year but I havent heard a clue about release date.
@@INIKA-D : Similarly, I've seen 2 or 3 videos mentioning the Max2 but nothing definitive.
Max 2 is scheduled for release “late 2024”. I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets pushed to 2025.
@@360vroomers you're probably right.
@@INIKA-Dnot seen any good low light footage from a gopro........maybe the x5 will have the ace pro 2 low light mode......
When came 2.8 out?
I think it will be released in a few days. I got early access through kandao.
@@360vroomers Uhh great! Could you please do a test running with the camera (handheld) to check it they fixed the jitter issues e.g. reviewer @hughhou found in his drone video?
After the 7 hours of running how was the focus on the 3 Ultra? The big problem about the 8k was that it would heat.up and loose focus and I'm hoping that this doesn't do that.
@@geekinthegarden3927 It has lower temperature due to its fan than the Insta360 X4 so I guess this is solved now. How do you see that it is loosing focus? Blurred image? Will receive my Qoocam 3 Ultra soon :)
@@geekinthegarden3927 no lens problem detected after recording 7 hrs.
hello, I just bought x4 recently, do you know if any different in the 360 recording when thermo grip cover is attached / not? as I can see on the x4 setting if thermo is attached or not, I'm wondering if any different like the stiching bit worse when it is attached due less point of view (blocked a bit by thermo cover), etc? I never see the comparison on any youtube channel. thanks
Hi I don’t have thermo grip but my understanding is that the thermo grip shows up a bit in normal stitching so a different stitching setting is needed.
Are those photos has image processing e.g. HDR applied to it? Could we take a raw shot without artifical colours?
Mick, love the comparison, as always impartial and clear, just a quick question, as the 8k is sitting in a drawer somewhere, never been used to potential, do you think Qoocam have learnt lessons and can they be trusted to launch a non beta product this time? Hope you are well mate, keep smiling👍
@@MrMaryhinge thanks! The ultra is far more polished than the qoocam 8k. Moreover, they have been improving the ultra at a rapid pace. For example, the 2.8 version was made just a week after the 2.7 release.
Having said that, kandao is a much smaller company than insta360. Although ultra is the most polished kandao camera I’ve tried, it still has minor bugs like the camera crashing (rarely).
I still brought it with me to a trip to Japan and so far it has been my primary camera. But if you want 99.9999% no bugs (as opposed to 99.0% for example), I would wait maybe 6 months or a year.
@@360vroomers Thanks Buddy, although you answered my question, you emptied my pocket, ordered then. Hope you and the family are amazing, cheers👍
do you have a download link where we can download two 8k test stitched video you shot in real world conditions, one from qoocam3 ultra and the second from insta360 x4 so we can put them in a quest 2 to check image quality ? do you have a free video playback app for quest 2 to recommend that can replay in 8K vr 360 ( the youtube app is limited to 4k playback on quest2) ?
Hey there :) Do you happen to know a quick mount for the Qoocam 3 Ultra? I had one for the Insta360 X4, but the camera wobbles a bit. With all the other quick mounts I've tried, you can see it because it's outside the stitch line due to its size. :/
@@captteemo9133 hey cap! The insta360 one should work for ultra too. Mine does not wobble. amzn.to/3VXr2ec
@360vroomers Hm not even a bit? Since even slight clatter would also destroy the audio :/. I already ordered one some time ago. Furthermore I am not sure if it can hold so much more weight over its spec...
@ I’ll look for mine but I don’t recall it jiggling. Did you tighten the screw with a coin or something? If you buy from Amazon you can return it.
@360vroomers I already did 2x ... do you know any other alternative?
@ I saw this one that might be slim enough for a 360 camera amzn.to/40eChBx but haven’t tried it
Are these photo took without image processing or are there any HDR applied? If we could disable completely would be great!
Hi! Both X4 and qoocam ultra can turn off HDR when shooting video or photo. Please note that they use different HDR.
@@360vroomers Great! Does it look better without HDR?
Is it heavier than the Insta360 X4?
Yes much heavier. It is about twice the weight because its frame seems to be all metal.
@@360vroomers Twice the weight is probably the biggest flaw, especially for motovlog, extreme sport and 3m selfie stick. Even with bigger and havier body, it can pack only a little better capability than an X4. I seriously doubt a max2 now. Hopefully it has at least 1/1.5 sensor.
@@INIKA-Dnah, not a flaw at all. Most people wont be bothered by this
@UmImK exact weight is 336g w battery, while x4 is 203 grams so about 1.5x weight of x4
Can insta x4 run without battery simply connecting to powerbank?
yes it can :D
My biggest issue with Qoocam is it's weight which I can't install it on the extended 10 ft stick.
You think it's too heavy for the 10ft stick?
On insta360 extended selfie stick v2, I recommend not using the last / thinnest segment. I also would not wave it with a lot of force such as bouncing while mounted on a car exterior.
Another solid review! I saw the comment about purple fringing. Would you be willing to share some of your DNG files so I could check them out and manipulate them on my own computer? I want to see how significant the issue really is.
Ok. I’ll try to take a shot tomorrow and upload
@@360vroomers thank you!
Did I read somewhere that the Qoocam is twice the weight of the X4? LOL, what kind of mount can handle that extra weight with vibrations from cycling and other sports. Not to mention trying to hold something like that with a selfie stick 🥹.
The exact weight w battery is 336 grams. If you notice, my wrist was bent from the weight of carrying both the x4 and ultra. But by itself, it’s not bad even on a 5ft long selfie stick.
Thank you again for another detailed, objective and impartial video. Qoocam's product is physically much thicker. Won't this always make stitching imperfect and noticeable?
Thanks! The thickness isn’t a major factor. For example, one RS 1-inch 360 is thicker than the ultra. The more tricky issue is that the lenses are offset, which is harder to stitch. But with the new software, the stitching has looked pretty good. Just need to be more mindful of the stitch line and don’t put anything important close to the camera along the stitch line.
I was lucky. Just bought a new regular qoocam 3 for 200 euros from amazon. Planning to use it or vacation and nature walks. The quality is good enough and in the future if necessary I can use AI upscaling in it, but it seems to work just fine. Only problem with it is the stitching is not the best but I can live with it.
@@webinatic216 wow that’s an excellent value. Qoocam 3 is a pretty good camera especially at night.
It still looks like the X4 edges out the Qoocam because of design and editing workflow. Its great to see some competition though. My prediction is that gopro will put out the Max2 that will be just as crisp as the qoocam 3 ultra, 10 bit, but it will be $499-$550. We shall see.
Thanks Eric. Yes it’s a question of image quality vs usability. Both are excellent cameras with no glaring weaknesses. As for max 2, I’m looking forward to it as well. I hope gopro spent their research money wisely.
Btw in europe its 570€ so nearly 600$ WITH early bird...
Wow. Must be because of VAT.
@@360vroomers Oh yeah might make sense.
Hi, great comparison thank you for your work.
I heard that all 5.7k modes on qoocam 3 ultra utilise downsampling from 8k. Even the 60 fps mode. It would be really interesting to compare quality of this two cameras at 5.7k 60 fps.
@@PiotrBlogVideos thanks. That’s true. I did compare at 5.7k 60fos. See the second video test in this video.
Yes you are right @~4:45 must have glanced over it. Unfortunately does not help me. Way to much action for me. My use case is as VR camera so stationary and pixel peeping. Thanks anyway 👍
I see. If you use your camera mostly stationary or on a dolly, you might want to see Hugh Hou’s review if you haven’t yet @@PiotrBlogVideos
Very good video, does anyone know if at some point Qoocam will release a mobile app like Insta360?
Can the PC program be put in Spanish?
Thank you very much in advance.
@@SuT4G4Racing qoocam 3 app is similar to insta360 but there are fewer special effects. I can’t change the app language. It’s in English. The desktop app is in English too.
do you remember the 6 camera rigs for 360 such as gopro omni, do these older systems have better video image quality than qoocam 3 ultra ?
@@amanieux salut mon ami. I haven’t done a side by side comparison but I believe the gopro Omni will produce better image quality because it has a higher ratio of sensor size vs resolution. However, the ultra has far better stitching. If the stitching is at all a consideration, then I think ultra is overall a better camera.
The colors on the ultra look pretty off. Perhaps can be corrected but that seems like a lot of work. Also purple fringing is pretty bad. Perhaps the lens just isn't that great. Oh well I will see when mine arrives because I did order one in a lack of impulse control haha.
@@SpaklesDr congrats getting ultra. re ultra’s colors, i disagree. Imho they are more similar to the actual colors. For example, my skin tone with x4 might be more flattering but in real life my skin tone is more similar to ultra. Ditto re colors of grass and trees etc. And if you don’t like ultra’s colors, i have found them easier to adjust bec the video is 10bit (pls note i am not a colorist).
Re fringing, qoocam studio has a defringing checkbox, which reduces it.
@@360vroomers Good to hear that the colors are accurate to reality. That is what I prefer.
Why doesn't anyone say that the Qoocam Ultra are essentially without the HDR mode? It is there, but it only works with 10-bit color, and Quest 2, for example, does not support 10-bit, only 8-bit, and not only Quest 2. So for 360 video Qoocam Ultra there is no hdr mode
Actually that’s not true. The hdr video mode of X4 works through quad bayer sensor using subpixels with a darker exposure. The qoocam ultra also has this HDR mode. In addition, qoocam can shoot in 10bit HLG.
@@360vroomers if so, I would be very grateful if you could tell me where to find an 8-bit HDR in Qoocam Ultra.
@maksim5109 turn off the 10bit option and turn on the HDR option.
@@360vroomers I'm sorry, I didn't see the HDR in Qoocam Ultra settings, there is only Dynamic Range and it doesn't work if you don't switch to 10-bit color.
what's wrong with your stitching, never had problem like that with original sticks on x4,
If my priority is stability, which one wins? Either way, I’m still waiting for the 8K 60fps 360 camera.
It's fine but, just not there yet. I'm sticking to the X4 for now, I even made a review to back up my claims. X4 is still the king.
X4 is still a very good camera
Agreed
@@360vroomers Are you aware of any plans for an X5 soon?
Right now the ultra 3 has significant stitching errors especially with photos. Not so noticeable in videos but the photos are unusable in VR because the stitching errors stick out like a sore thumb! Nobody is talking about it but Kandao has no immediate fix for the problem.
@@Dvm2003 whether they are significant or not is up to each user. That’s why I’ve uploaded samples. I think in your case, if you want perfect or near perfect stitching with very high quality, I think a dslr pano would be best for you.
@@360vroomers I agree and I am heading that direction. Insta360 products and Xphase have much better stitching so I was hoping the ultra 3 would be the best of both worlds. The images are really good except for the stitching issues.
@@Dvm2003 here’s a complete guide if you want ruclips.net/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/видео.html
@@360vroomers thank you! I’ve already watched it several times! Very solid content!
Which one has better low light video quality (moving camera)? 1-RS 1Inch or the Qoocam 3 Ultra?
I’m traveling right now so I can’t test them but my impression is that in low light, one RS has less noise while ultra has more detail. That’s just my impression from memory so I could be wrong.
@@360vroomers Thanks! :)
Studio 2.8 was officially released today.. 8/9/24
@@dixter1652 thanks!
X4🎉
Woohoo!
I've been watching 8K 360 videos in the Quest 3 shot with the X4 and 3 Ultra and what I have noticed that distant faces look completely distorted in the X4 videos. Also other distant objects like trees look over sharpened.
X4 does look more sharpened than ultra.
Big difference in video quality of the 3 ultra?
Feedback, I desperately want 10 bit Video, I have the X4, will buy another 360 camera but two things that have put me off, battery life, and the stitching still doesn’t look good enough. A secondary issue is the software, so close, but it’s just not quite, good enough to take my easily given money.
@@Coatsey007 I can understand. I think it really depends on how important image quality is for you. If it is very important, then you might overlook these foibles. Also, fyi ultra will be selling extra batteries, and a very slim charger case.
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*Stitch line is super important, especially action sports,* hope they fix it.
The stitching is way better than past qoocam cameras but it’s like gopro max that keeps changing if something is close to the camera along the stitch line.
@@360vroomers ps love the haircut bro, like benjamin button as each new video comes out, lookin younger and younger 🤙🏽🤙🏽
@@eBoard3R thanks buddy! My wife cut my hair. 😁
Thanks a lot for your review! :) I am a bit disappointed that you did not say a word (and did not tested it) about the internal fan, the spatial audio that is also stabilized etc.
In ordinary usage I couldn’t hear the fan. I only hear it on long recordings in quiet indoor environments. The Spatial Audio is very nice for 360 video but I don’t usually do 360 videos (I care more about reframed video). Even in reframed video, the sound will change depending on how you keyframe it.
@@360vroomers Thank you! :) So you don't hear it indor for short recordings, doing images etc? I have the Pro 2 and it always runs at max speed even when not filming as loud as a cheap notebook on max power tasks. So even using an external ambisonic mic will capture the fan noise pretty loud making any video recordings with audio while fan is running unsuable. 😅 Even if the Ultra is just 1/2 as loud it would still annoy everyone around 🙈
Insta360 hates 10bit for some reason. Qoocam definately dumped on Insta360 because they were reluctant with their video formats.
Idk why insta360 doesn’t seem to care to add 10bit. I’ve requested it since the days of qoocam 8k which did have 10bit as well.
another disadvantage if Qoocam 3 Ultra is luck of in-camera hyperlapse.
There is no hyperlapse mode per se but there a Timelapse video mode, which is stabilized (you can use while moving). So it can be used for hyperlapse.
@@360vroomers I think that the minimal interval for timelapse video is 0.5 secs - which will make the speed of the video unacceptable. I am looking for 2 to 5 times speed up.
If you could keep only one 360 camera, would you keep x4 or 3 Ultra for 360 videos?
For photo, I would choose ultra unless you want zero editing. For video, I’m not sure yet. I’m traveling now and brought both. At the end of the trip I will probably have a better idea. My guess is ultra for the video quality.
Thanks, if you could please upload a few side by side 8k video comparisons x4 vs 3 ultra?
@@Splexon763 hi this is the side by side at full 4k resolution. 8k resolution is available only for 360 videos. It is not possible to do side by side for 360 videos.
@@360vroomers srr 4k is what I meant if you could.
@Splexon763 this video is 4k 60fps. You just need to select the resolution on RUclips settings on the bottom right.
Great test and comparison! Insta360 X4 is certainly behind and not the number 1 in todays 360 camera's . Hopefully that next year they will release the X5 with huge improvements
X4 is still a great camera, and is more convenient to use imho. But yes, in terms of image quality, the Ultra edges it out.
@@360vroomers Convenient how?
@@BikeStuffPDX weight and form factor.
@@BikeStuffPDX mobile workflow lets you edit without downloading. Desktop workflow renders faster and can save keyframes in projects.
Got my Qoocam 3 Ultra finally... footage unusable for VR when walking (normally, not "gimbal sneaking") while filming, especially when camera is not in direct sunlight. All larger, non vibration like movements are stabilized but all bumps and minor shakes (e.g. walking down a stair outdoory walking a bit faster, and so on) cause the video to disturb/blur for the bump durstion. No camera from Insta360 I had before (1-RS 1 Inch, Pro 2) had this issue.
So for me this feels like a joke... why is my Insta360 Pro 2 that is not made for beeing walked around in a backpack so much better in stabilizing shocks from walking than a camera advertised for action sport.
I am so sad...I was so hyped for this cam, the support promised to fix this before arrival, they released Stitching Software V2.8 but still the same issue it seems.
PS: Your app doesn't work too... I am connected as described with the cam but no live feed even though I can watch the thumbnails of saved videos (but I can't play them) - Galaxy S21 Ultra. What a pity.
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Besides that I can confirm that the fan is running for 13-16min without audible fan noise (fan always on but inaudible at lowest setting if more then 50cm away). After that it kicks in quite loud so all ambisonic recordings ruines but lavalier with noise cancelling should still work. Hope the recording time with silent fan can be increased some day (not by changing the temp limit, this us already crazy hot). But yeah...the thing I was scared most was no real issue. But not beeing able to record handheld while moving the camera converts it to a photo camera or stationary video camera only. And for that the quality is not good enough (even with your 0,5gb large dng files or AEB).
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For Reframing the disturbed image is annoying but not thaaat much of an deal I guess (?)... but for VR you get motion sick instantly.
Qoocam purple fringing.
Yes there’s some fringing. There’s also a defringe option in the desktop app.
@@360vroomers good to know.
v Europe cena 669,- Euro + batéria 41,-euro... neviem , ak sa Kandao stránka správa , akoby všetko len skúšali - nie všetko funguje ako sa patrí... aj zľavový kód za "subscripe" NEFUNGUJE...
70% of the clip I was watching your face instead of camera bayot!!
I don’t understand what is camera bayot but thanks for watching!
very good video
X4 king
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Thanks Eugene!
Does not take much to dethrone the trash that instacrap put out. It was never good and tbh no one was on top as subpar products are just that. I have been thrashing on insta360 before it was cool and all the clowns were getting resell links and pushing instas x4. It was never good, it still sucks after the update, and the Qoocam was my anticipated camera. Sadly, like the X4 no one has provided pure raw 360 files which is what I use it for. I don't reframe, pointless for what I need it for. However, if the noise is removed and they fix their color science and that purple hue in the sky... And the jello effect in timelapse.. then it could be on top.
tekli videolarda çekim yapan cihazın adını belirtseydiniz keşke. boktan olmuş... bir şey anlamadım
if you know how to read, the names of the cameras were written on the bottom left and bottom right. 😂
@@360vroomers geri zekalı veya kör değilim. söylediğim videolar single video içindi. anlama özürlü çıktın... yinede cevap için teşekkür ederim 👍
@@360vroomers kör değilim. Aptal da değilim. Single video da yazmıyor dedim. Anlama özürlüsün. Ama yinede cevap için teşekkür ederim 👍
it is too obvious you have been paid by qoocam.....so next time you make some comparison video like this...try hard not to be shown you are sold...ok???
Lol i wasn't paid by either company. If you watch the video, you can see that i pointed out x4's advantages.
xnoeccbux is just an X4 fanboy and it hurts his feelings that his camera doesn't stack up anymore 😂 He'll be even more sad when the GoPro Max 2 drops.
@xnoeccbux sorry, but that's really stupid comment.
@@thomza I’m very curious about GoPro’s next 360 camera. I hope they did their homework. It’s do or die for GoPro imho.
@@360vroomersGoPro would need to put a metric shittonne into their editing software in order to come close to Insta360. I'm mean insta360 has its faults, bit their free software is pretty fucking good.