Even though I won't ever get an Odyssey, the reality of that head-on collision is that they hit another "moving," vehicle, most likely going either at the same speed or faster. This test only measured the impact of vans simply hitting a wall, or barrier. It's really unfortunate that that collision caused the deaths of those in it. If anything, these tests NEED to be revamped to test against other cars, vans, and SUV's, at faster speeds going against them while statically going at 55 - 65 mph. That would be much more realistic.
Right these tests are bs, real life crashes are above 40 mph. IIHS and other test organizations deceiving people none of these cars are safe in real speeds. These tests created to give society fake sense of safety.
The head rest coming off is also dangerous for the person sitting in that seat. Head rest are necessary to prevent a person's head from snapping back too far, which could lead to traumatic brain injury or even a broken neck.
Quite disturbing, you pay 50k dollars for a family vehicle and these greedy automakers don't take safety seriously. They only take safety seriously, when the government puts a rating on them, and it effects their reputation, and sales numbers!
IIHS is NOT a government body, its a private non profit standards organization like UL or ISO. The car companies are literally paying for these guys to test them so the tests are impartial.
the drives head hits the pillar a lot and it’s never talked about, i hit my head by mistake getting in a car and it hurts BAD so at those speeds there’s gonna be head injuries or death
Not sure how to fix that other than putting a airbag in from of the rear seat occupants or a 5 points harness for kids which would be a pain to buckle up but way safer for the kids
Essentially... or the seats would have to have force-limiting dampers to allow the seat to travel forward (which would place the child's head into the back of the front seat (unless it was to move forward as well... possibly in tandem)
The test has changed. It's entirely possible a "good" then is only a marginal or even poor now. Overalls vehicles are safer than ever and the tests get tougher and tougher.
Kia Sedona 2018-2021 to my knowledge was the safest newer model minivan tested. Only issue was headlight glare. Crazy how the new sleek updated carnival went backwards on safety, I guess we see where the sacrifice was made to look cooler.
As a mechanics wife and a mother obsessed safety the only vehicles we will transport our children in are, Volvo xc90, subaru Forester, Acura MDX after 2019. If you think these are bad, take a look at the Honda Pilot and Infinity qx90, shocking! Family vehicle's should be the safest on the road, unfortunately they are some of the deadliest.
I'd consider the Model Y or Model X. Out performed all safety scores...mainly because they don't have a giant engine block in the front and the weight differential with the battery pack will have the vehicle always land up right in a rollover.
The Odyssey rear end jumped back further in the air, probably triggering its side impact bags, whereas the Chrysler was closer to the ground, so not enough side movement or roll to initiate a deploy. Frankly, doesn't look like it needed it either.
Out of all the vans, the Sienna did the best. In the rear the head rest did not detach nor the dummy didn't go flying our of the seat or go bouncing up like in the other vans. The rear on the outside the baselines and modules for the undercarriage didn't come apart neither.
Even like the Sienna way back in 98 was very good profromer and now it’s just need its automakers who made it just keep up with the safety those rear seat passengers safety belts need some more improvements and updates to the sienna to me is a good profromer just need some more updates to it though
A wise man use to say, "bricks don't hit back". Hope are these test realistic, 90% or more of the time you're involved in a car on car. They need to rest this car vs car to simulate real world . They expect people to hit super hard objects all the time? Such BS test
1. It’s impossible to test every possible crash, you would need too many vehicles, too expensive. 2. The barrier they are hitting is tougher than a car so if the vehicle can survive this it should better manage hitting a car in the same area. Would you rather have a weaker car made to pass an easier test? 3. These tests are conducted at something like 35-37mph. At higher speeds the results would be worse but you need to start somewhere!
@alphaomega750 If they do testing like slamming cars together at 70mph every single car would rate poorly. This is the best anyone can do short of 5 point seat belts, neck braces, helmets, roll cages and so on.
what about 3rd row, especially with rear end collisions?
Yeah no one talks about those
I have never seen rear collision crash test
@@allwheeldrivesn it would be great to see especially because most people are probably going to carry kids there (in the trunk in fact).
@@NikolaSat and some stuff too
Belt fit in the third row of some minivans is really poor. Crash test rear and front crashes.
6 people were just killed in head on collision in a Honda Odyssey not too long ago in Texas.
None of them on the passenger seats were wearing seat belts. Nonetheless, a very sad news.
Even though I won't ever get an Odyssey, the reality of that head-on collision is that they hit another "moving," vehicle, most likely going either at the same speed or faster. This test only measured the impact of vans simply hitting a wall, or barrier. It's really unfortunate that that collision caused the deaths of those in it. If anything, these tests NEED to be revamped to test against other cars, vans, and SUV's, at faster speeds going against them while statically going at 55 - 65 mph. That would be much more realistic.
Right these tests are bs, real life crashes are above 40 mph.
IIHS and other test organizations deceiving people none of these cars are safe in real speeds.
These tests created to give society fake sense of safety.
An indian family. Very sad😢
Most head on collisions are pretty gnarly no matter what you're driving. What do people expect?
1:28 Omg the headrest flew off??!!! So dangerous for last row passengers!
that seat is reserved for mother-in-law, so it is probably ok.
The head rest coming off is also dangerous for the person sitting in that seat. Head rest are necessary to prevent a person's head from snapping back too far, which could lead to traumatic brain injury or even a broken neck.
The Carnival's 2nd row headrest was almost flew off too.
The first time they tested the carnival after side.impact was introduced, the 2nd row seat came out and flew around😮
Not in the Sienna
Quite disturbing, you pay 50k dollars for a family vehicle and these greedy automakers don't take safety seriously. They only take safety seriously, when the government puts a rating on them, and it effects their reputation, and sales numbers!
depends probably werent trying to be greedy
IIHS is NOT a government body, its a private non profit standards organization like UL or ISO.
The car companies are literally paying for these guys to test them so the tests are impartial.
That doesn’t mean they didn’t prepare for it on purpose, it means the van needs a redesign or wasn’t designed right for the test.
That's why I always watch the crash test first
How did you come to this conclusion? Seriously lol they just showed impact footage.
Wait a minute. Shouldn't the side curtain airbags have deployed in the Pacifica? And the driver's head hit the door structure, no?
the drives head hits the pillar a lot and it’s never talked about, i hit my head by mistake getting in a car and it hurts BAD so at those speeds there’s gonna be head injuries or death
It’s a Chrysler… you had high expectations?
No because it's not considered a side collision
Chrysler design does not show that there will be airbags on the sides.
Had the same thought.
Why did the side airbags for the windows in the Chrysler secound row not deployed.
Not sure how to fix that other than putting a airbag in from of the rear seat occupants or a 5 points harness for kids which would be a pain to buckle up but way safer for the kids
Essentially... or the seats would have to have force-limiting dampers to allow the seat to travel forward (which would place the child's head into the back of the front seat (unless it was to move forward as well... possibly in tandem)
Tenho uma Kia Carnival no Brasil e acho um carro extremamente seguro. O que me assutou no vídeo foi o apoio de cabeça da Honda sair voando.
The Odyssey used to score good.. now it scores poorly!
The test has changed. It's entirely possible a "good" then is only a marginal or even poor now. Overalls vehicles are safer than ever and the tests get tougher and tougher.
EXACTLY!!!
Well they don’t make them like they used to
Kia Sedona 2018-2021 to my knowledge was the safest newer model minivan tested. Only issue was headlight glare. Crazy how the new sleek updated carnival went backwards on safety, I guess we see where the sacrifice was made to look cooler.
I would have expect that the Sienna with the non-removable 2nd row and seat belt on the seat instead of the c-pillar would fare better...
That such crap feel like the Pacifica got shit on seem to be the safest one in the bunch!
As a mechanics wife and a mother obsessed safety the only vehicles we will transport our children in are, Volvo xc90, subaru Forester, Acura MDX after 2019.
If you think these are bad, take a look at the Honda Pilot and Infinity qx90, shocking! Family vehicle's should be the safest on the road, unfortunately they are some of the deadliest.
Why MDX after 2019? 🤨
I'd consider the Model Y or Model X. Out performed all safety scores...mainly because they don't have a giant engine block in the front and the weight differential with the battery pack will have the vehicle always land up right in a rollover.
@@redkulaT Model Y or Model X? Ew, no thanks, electric sucks.
The Pacifica doesn't have side curtain airbags?😳🤯
By the looks of things, the Pacifica didn't need to drop them down like the others
I think it failed to deploy.
Or the computer didn't sense they needed to deploy?
The computer didn’t activate them for a front impact.
The Odyssey rear end jumped back further in the air, probably triggering its side impact bags, whereas the Chrysler was closer to the ground, so not enough side movement or roll to initiate a deploy. Frankly, doesn't look like it needed it either.
I cant believe chrysler didnt put side curtain airbags in...............SHAME ON U CHRYSLER!!!!!!!!!!!
how was were the cars going when they crashed into the wall?
No rear ended test?
Third Row is Death Row ☠️☠️☠️
That's why Rear Collisions they don't Show or Rate.
Fatality applies to
All 3 Row Vehicles, not just minivans 😱
3:11 the lights are like:Alright bye
The reason we dumped our van and got a suv. Short front ends aren’t good
Good work.
Did it brake the siennas suspension
Out of all the vans, the Sienna did the best. In the rear the head rest did not detach nor the dummy didn't go flying our of the seat or go bouncing up like in the other vans. The rear on the outside the baselines and modules for the undercarriage didn't come apart neither.
No, the submarining is really dangerous. I wouldn’t call it the best.
@@RainbowMama143 One van that is actually safe is the Chevrolet Venture. They don't make vans now as safe as they did a long time ago.
No it didn't
Well, I was really leaning towards the Kia as I love the look of it, but now I'm not sure. I had been looking at an Odyssey, but thats a definite no!
wait for the refreshed kia carnival to start being sold and see what its safety rating is then make a decision.
Get the Sienna
Even like the Sienna way back in 98 was very good profromer and now it’s just need its automakers who made it just keep up with the safety those rear seat passengers safety belts need some more improvements and updates to the sienna to me is a good profromer just need some more updates to it though
They test these things on speeds much lower than anyone is driving on. Nevertheless the results are not good.
The kia carnival looks like an suv…
Must check windscreen
I heard there’s a minivan car crash that the vehicle lost its roof and flipped upside down and there was a tow truck
I bet your gonna walk out alive but without legs😂
Definitely need air bags coming out of the backs of the seats.
Who sold a person's hand in the back seat of the honda odyssey and the
ITS ME
The side airbag is not needed for a frontal crash.
우리는 언제나 바른 자세로 앉아있지 않습니다 사고가 발생하는 순간의 자세에 따라 측면 에어백은 승객의 목숨을 구할수도 있습니다
Ever heard of shrapnel?
They have changed the tests. These cars are very safe. Especially odyssey.
A wise man use to say, "bricks don't hit back". Hope are these test realistic, 90% or more of the time you're involved in a car on car. They need to rest this car vs car to simulate real world . They expect people to hit super hard objects all the time? Such BS test
1. It’s impossible to test every possible crash, you would need too many vehicles, too expensive.
2. The barrier they are hitting is tougher than a car so if the vehicle can survive this it should better manage hitting a car in the same area. Would you rather have a weaker car made to pass an easier test?
3. These tests are conducted at something like 35-37mph. At higher speeds the results would be worse but you need to start somewhere!
They are professionals with professional tools, let's trust them
@alphaomega750
If they do testing like slamming cars together at 70mph every single car would rate poorly. This is the best anyone can do short of 5 point seat belts, neck braces, helmets, roll cages and so on.
they help car makers improve for the best of consumers like you.
Yup bros rich with money 💀💀💀
the kid in the honda is dead
Newer cars are getting deadly every year I guess.
Child seats for child under age of 13? Nah make that ten 11. And 12 ur olds can’t sit in those
LMAO TEA
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Stop wasting cars❌❌❌please
Only 4 mini vans there're very popular & dangerous to drive your families in give me a GMC 9 or 7 seater conversion van with a 6.6 or 6.2 V8