Without looking at any camera scripts (so far and if they exist for this story), this small section feels very authentic to how they would have shown his entrance, even the movement feels like it: 0:19
It's amazing how good this tech has gotten, I think full recreations are not too far off. This is probably the best way of presenting them as originally intended (sort of actually finding them, of course.)
To paraphrase Eldrad: "I congratulate you. Your achievements are indeed as impressive as I have heard." You definitely should see about crowdfunding this. I suggested something similar about five years ago and all I got back was insults and dismissals, (my idea was a little more complicated -- I figured that with university drama departments and fan donations, sets could be constructed by use of the telesnaps as blueprints. Then, body doubles could act out the necessary movement and in a few years, when the deep fake tech was sufficient, the actual actors' original faces could be overlaid and synced with the voice recordings.) Your idea is much more elegant a solution. I had no idea the tech had advanced this far. Definitely keep at it.
Fantastic! Absolutely fantastic. Now that we can properly animate many of the tele-snaps, I feel like a good next step might be to fix the images using the BBC animations as a reference. If you map the telesnaps to those animations it might look really good.
Still really hoping you'll do one about the Dalek mutants: the wild continuity (they seem to be described as being like The Mekon in the first book, but tentacled / clawed blobs in other filmed stories), the way the props were designed, made and animated, behind the scanes images... and so on. Even the basic question of just how much of the inner cavity they occupy is fascinating. How do they see out of the casing? How to they operate it?
The fact fans are making the episodes now just says it all I dream of the day when all you wonderful people get brought together and get the funding to recreate all these episodes amazing work ❤
Give it 10 years for the technology to improve and this may actually be the way to 'recover' these episodes. I'd love to see what you could do with The Celestial Toymaker.
I'd show a few finished episodes to the BBC--I'm guessing the reason the professional BBC Patrick Troughton restorations are progressing so slowly is the animation work, and they've barely even gotten to the William Hartnells.
I’m assuming that even the best AI movement/animation tools will require a lot of human intervention given the paucity of the source material, which itself is pretty low res. In the meantime, the techniques that created these sample sequences would [I assume] be good at repairing film or video tape, especially where frames are damaged/missing or off-locks have caused video to roll. As ever, I doubt there’s a single approach - no magic bullet - and whatever methods work, they will include a lot of fiddle-faddle and swearing en route to the final production.
The video title reads This is NOT A.I. Most of the cast I imagine are dead and this is a great nod to their work whilst bringing the story back to life. Royalties are another matter that would need to be resolved if this became common practice, but I'm in favour.
I agree. I can't see royalties being an issue though, anymore than animating an episode. These are "just" telesnaps with movement. (Sorry Gav, but I'm sure you know what I mean, really beautiful work btw) If it were new stories using their images with voice artists or AI doing the voices, that'd be different.
IANAL, but I think the copyrights and other proprietary rights associated with a faithful reproduction of a copyrighted work would be the same as those of the original work. So the royalties would likely be the same as for a rerun of the original filming. Not sure that answers much, though, sorry.
Great stuff looks amazing! id love to see episodes 2, and 3, of The ice warriors, completed and done like this, be better than the BBC animation, we got of that, and would fully complete that story then too in its natural form.
I'd like to say these are better than the cartoons, I hated how some of the cartoons were cut or changed instead of being 1:1 as close as it was originally broadcast.
NO dr who at the film is faboulous event, just 1 basil brush. unless something gets announced in the next 3 weeks DR WHO recoveries look non existant from now on
I think the photos were taken every five seconds or so. For a short scene, the motion will probably be quite limited to begin with. For a longer scene, perhaps you do something as "primitive" as moving the actor images and then having the computer extrapolate the gaps, sort of like traditional animation. If the actor starts at 0,0 (origin point) and you want them to move five feet to the right (0,5), you cut-and-paste them and start with those two frames (A and Z). Then the computer cuts the distance into 24 segments and "guesses" what the actor would look like at B, C, D, ...
Marco Polo is only celebrated because it is missing. Anyone who saw it at the time would tell you that it went on and on and on like a bloody headache. What a disappointment when you eagerly rushed in for Doctor Who, thrilled at the familiar mysterious music, and then realised "Oh no! It's still THAT".
Blown away simply no words. Much more than an AI recreation. Maybe there was AI help, but this, Gav, is a work of art! Edit: I notice the thumbnails says it is not AI, which I realise now. Explains why you can feel the effort and love put into it, by a human being, rather than a machine
yes nothing missing has turned up for the 60th not even a clip. those clowns who kept saying eps are coming back should not show their face in public again-no one is going to believe them
@@derianimpNope. The only off-screen photos for TDMP are from the seventh episode, which is the one episode that is definitely the least likely to ever be found, but they are not telesnaps as they were not captured by John Cura.
This is strangely spooky! It's like you've re-animated ghosts form the past! it has a strange but fascinating vibe to it all.
The bbc need to hire this guy, this is so much better than the animations
Without looking at any camera scripts (so far and if they exist for this story), this small section feels very authentic to how they would have shown his entrance, even the movement feels like it: 0:19
This looks like a youtube poop, and I say that in the most flattering way possible.
Props to Gav, may his work be famous.
It's amazing how good this tech has gotten, I think full recreations are not too far off. This is probably the best way of presenting them as originally intended (sort of actually finding them, of course.)
To paraphrase Eldrad: "I congratulate you. Your achievements are indeed as impressive as I have heard."
You definitely should see about crowdfunding this.
I suggested something similar about five years ago and all I got back was insults and dismissals, (my idea was a little more complicated -- I figured that with university drama departments and fan donations, sets could be constructed by use of the telesnaps as blueprints. Then, body doubles could act out the necessary movement and in a few years, when the deep fake tech was sufficient, the actual actors' original faces could be overlaid and synced with the voice recordings.)
Your idea is much more elegant a solution. I had no idea the tech had advanced this far. Definitely keep at it.
This is fantastic and a great way forward for reconstructions. Fantastic effort.
Why is Gav so talented? These are brilliant.
WOW - head and shoulders above the missing episodes that I "watched" a decade ago.
I had to watch this again. I can't wait to see full reconstructions with this technique!
I'd love a video showing how you did this incredible work.
What is this dark magic I see? I remember Telesnaps as just being special editions of Gary Levys' old Dream Watch Bulletin.
It looks really good! Definitely another great alternative for missing episodes if it can be made!
This is truly bloody amazing.
This is amazing! I'd love to see the process of how you created these. Well done!
Fantastic! Absolutely fantastic.
Now that we can properly animate many of the tele-snaps, I feel like a good next step might be to fix the images using the BBC animations as a reference. If you map the telesnaps to those animations it might look really good.
Can you make a full video about this. It looks amazing
I would love to see this with all the remaining missing episodes.
Very impressive
That is incredibly impressive.
Wow this is just brilliant! Well done! It's a great step towards filling in those missing episode gaps.
Stunning.
Still really hoping you'll do one about the Dalek mutants: the wild continuity (they seem to be described as being like The Mekon in the first book, but tentacled / clawed blobs in other filmed stories), the way the props were designed, made and animated, behind the scanes images... and so on.
Even the basic question of just how much of the inner cavity they occupy is fascinating. How do they see out of the casing? How to they operate it?
Wow ,this is amazing
The fact fans are making the episodes now just says it all I dream of the day when all you wonderful people get brought together and get the funding to recreate all these episodes amazing work ❤
These stories shall all live again !
New technology shows so much promise.
Incredible work 👏👏👏🫡
Wow this is cool! I think this certainly presents a more watchable viewing experience of missing episodes!
Amazing, and beyond my old mind's understanding! But keep at it 🙂
That's impressive this is a much better way to make reconstructions than stills and cartoon animation.
I knew we’d get there one day. Exciting times.
Very impressive.
By the end of the decade, I reckon most if not all the missing episodes will be available like this.
Incredible work! ❤
I'd love these to be maybe touched up a little bit, finished off, and released officially. They look great
This is better than the bbc 1000%
This needs real funding
looks amazing great job
Great work.
Bravo 👏
Thank you
This project is probably the only way that the permanently missing episode Feast of Steven can be reconstructed.
WOW!
Whoa! It's like you've recovered lost footage.
Please do a full story this is the best thing I've ever seen it's like having the original
with help of screenplay and any living member of the crew i think you can create something authentic
Give it 10 years for the technology to improve and this may actually be the way to 'recover' these episodes.
I'd love to see what you could do with The Celestial Toymaker.
Impressive.
I'd show a few finished episodes to the BBC--I'm guessing the reason the professional BBC Patrick Troughton restorations are progressing so slowly is the animation work, and they've barely even gotten to the William Hartnells.
Oh my word! 👏👏
Enjoyed this. Thank you. I sure hope the story is found or animated.
BBC hire this man!
Gosh! More please...
I love the creepy visuals.
they look like animated 3d models, I wonder how it's done?
This aged well. Look at what Ian Levine is doing with it.
I have just seen the future, and it is 'Gav' 😀
Very informative!
I’m assuming that even the best AI movement/animation tools will require a lot of human intervention given the paucity of the source material, which itself is pretty low res.
In the meantime, the techniques that created these sample sequences would [I assume] be good at repairing film or video tape, especially where frames are damaged/missing or off-locks have caused video to roll.
As ever, I doubt there’s a single approach - no magic bullet - and whatever methods work, they will include a lot of fiddle-faddle and swearing en route to the final production.
Brilliant
Ok I love this, do more
fucking brilliant
The body movements and the camera movements seem incredibly authentic, but the facial movements clearly have a long way to go.
Not sure if you already have them, but would the original camera scripts (in cases where they exist) be of any use here?
Wow!
Goodness!
The obvious choice for me would be The Feast Of Steven considering it's one of the most likely to never be recovered. IMO.
Man, imagine now if you used ai to add some inbetweens
How long does this take?? Incredible.
This is crazy
Which episode is the first image from? It's 0.03 to 0.05 secs. I can't see it on the BBC contact sheets.
Please do The Power of The Daleks! 🙏
It's a bit Clutch Cargo to my mind
The video title reads This is NOT A.I. Most of the cast I imagine are dead and this is a great nod to their work whilst bringing the story back to life. Royalties are another matter that would need to be resolved if this became common practice, but I'm in favour.
I agree. I can't see royalties being an issue though, anymore than animating an episode. These are "just" telesnaps with movement. (Sorry Gav, but I'm sure you know what I mean, really beautiful work btw)
If it were new stories using their images with voice artists or AI doing the voices, that'd be different.
Royalties aren't paid to the dead...
@@Grim2 The deceased estate gets royalties.
IANAL, but I think the copyrights and other proprietary rights associated with a faithful reproduction of a copyrighted work would be the same as those of the original work. So the royalties would likely be the same as for a rerun of the original filming. Not sure that answers much, though, sorry.
Great stuff looks amazing! id love to see episodes 2, and 3, of The ice warriors, completed and done like this, be better than the BBC animation, we got of that, and would fully complete that story then too in its natural form.
While I do think this is impressive and do support it for me it steps into to the uncanny valley
No, "The Uncanny Valley" was from Season 1, Story 4, Episode 2. 😄😄😄👍
Not for me. I think its very charming
Guys... we could actually see The Feast of Steven...
Finally, an AI daydream I would watch.
It’s time to own up…..you’ve been holding the original tapes all this time!
Very weird but effective. Motion a bit jerky but impressive all the same..
It looks good but the noise reduction seems unnecessary
I'd like to say these are better than the cartoons, I hated how some of the cartoons were cut or changed instead of being 1:1 as close as it was originally broadcast.
If it's not AI...
*_then how?_*
NO dr who at the film is faboulous event, just 1 basil brush. unless something gets announced in the next 3 weeks DR WHO recoveries look non existant from now on
disturbing
Definately a step in the right direction, however I wonder how long you can a whole scene going from just one photograph
I think the photos were taken every five seconds or so. For a short scene, the motion will probably be quite limited to begin with. For a longer scene, perhaps you do something as "primitive" as moving the actor images and then having the computer extrapolate the gaps, sort of like traditional animation. If the actor starts at 0,0 (origin point) and you want them to move five feet to the right (0,5), you cut-and-paste them and start with those two frames (A and Z). Then the computer cuts the distance into 24 segments and "guesses" what the actor would look like at B, C, D, ...
I'm excited to find out!
@@alexthebold think that's called keyframing
Can you do one for Marco polo
Marco Polo is only celebrated because it is missing.
Anyone who saw it at the time would tell you that it went on and on and on like a bloody headache.
What a disappointment when you eagerly rushed in for Doctor Who, thrilled at the familiar mysterious music, and then realised "Oh no! It's still THAT".
WITCHCRAFT !!
😲🤑😲🤑😲🤑😲
Blown away simply no words. Much more than an AI recreation. Maybe there was AI help, but this, Gav, is a work of art!
Edit: I notice the thumbnails says it is not AI, which I realise now. Explains why you can feel the effort and love put into it, by a human being, rather than a machine
I simply must support your patron. Its too incredible and exciting for me not to
yes nothing missing has turned up for the 60th not even a clip. those clowns who kept saying eps are coming back should not show their face in public again-no one is going to believe them
This is impressive for what you can do without AI.
Oh wow could we see a clip from dalek master plan??
Sadly there are no tele-snaps from Master Plan.
@@issigri9395technically there is for one episode but it’s an episode that survives
@@derianimpNope. The only off-screen photos for TDMP are from the seventh episode, which is the one episode that is definitely the least likely to ever be found, but they are not telesnaps as they were not captured by John Cura.
@@DrWhoFanJ I remember seeing them on the BBC website
@@derianimp They weren't telesnaps. They were just screengrabs taken from the existing episode.
Nah this isn’t really more authentic than a high budget animation, tho’
No, looks weird
It's alright.
I think it’s great for what it is
Mmmm, too uncanny in most cases. I'd rather just watch the animated recreations.
Deep fake!
Wow!