There was some awesome you’ll find out in the lore videos and other things.. such as even small things like when Boromir blew his famous horn it actually caused the Balrog to draw back in semi fear and access the fellowship further with his gaze. There was also a sequence when gandalf was drawing tunes on gates and so forth to keep the Balrog out while they travelled elsewhere etc. heck even in the behind the scenes stuff gives an extended prologue by Galadriel(Cate Blanchet) which actually gives more about Sauron and his nature as a “fallen” Maia spirit etc. ❤
Funny thing is even in the books it shows that Boromir was the best of them all. And there was always the intention split if they had to and Boromir always intended to go back to Minas Tirith in Gondor. There are many awesome things to react to that only a few channels have done with the massive awesome lore and discussion videos that are seriously fun and immersive. (Middle Earth Is Midgard and Midgard is our world. Thanks to my Nordic ancestry and my drive to keep the culture alive I can tell you this. That Tolkien was keeping our true history and ancient knowledge and languages alive. Especially for that of old English and pre-England mythology and folklore/culture etc. ❤
@@AmariMorrisyeah. Also neat thing in the books is Boromir and Aragorn are more alike than one may imagine from the movies. Even just the way they process things and the practical wisdoms they have etc. ❤
I don’t know if I’m the theatrical version someone commented this but Man is mankind and it’s not about male or female. The greatest heros among many were FEMALE, Lúthien, Idril, Haleth, Andreth(for other reasons) and one other I won’t name for she is in the next movies. (Extended will give payoffs at the final movie)
There is some cool stuff I added to this older comment of mine from another video. I don’t always share it but this time I was brought back to it in my mind which had me thinking of several things to add to it. - The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript] C The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in ‘fear’(not cowardice) & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras. See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund(but he went out like a G so to speak. He was Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was the most important in the Legendarium & is the main reason the third age even exists) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down, but Saruman(Curumo) was the mostly already becoming weary due to what was called The along Defeat, magic bleeding out from the lands of middle earth and subsequently certain things become less and less possible and the elves begin to go west. Even the ones who never wished to leave middle earth and many of which were born here by the thousands. Saruman never wished to serve Sauron. He spent so much time studying the enemy and the minds of the enemy and so forth so he could masterfully counter them at every turn in all instances. He’s been stalwart against “evil” for thousands of years. And even for the few thousand he spent upon middle earth in the form of an old man. Equally as limited as Gandalf but perhaps with a slightly less tight cap on his power as a Maia. But you’ll be surprised with the second movie because I’ll share more stuff with you about Gandalf when that video is uploaded. (Extended. Otherwise certain character backstory will be missed and we don’t want that now so we?) haha 😂😅❤
Frodo is 53 now because Gandalf was doing all sorts of epic travelling and collecting as much lore as he could find on several things including about Isildur and the one ring for 17 years. Yes. 17 years. Frodo’s birthday is same as Bilbo too so it all adds up!
The birthday party at the start happens when BOTH Bilbo and Frodo have their birthday (they share the same birthday ... September 22nd) ... Bilbo at 111 and Frodo at 33 (coming of age).
I must illuminate my buddy Amari here about the passing of the elves sequence that Frodo and Sam beheld as the began their early journey! - The song you hear when the elves were spotted in the forest by Frodo and Sam is very important as regarding the elves history spanned over 40,000+ years. Because even one of the three high kings within Valinor was 30,000 years old well before the third age.(since time measured differently. The time before the sun & moons reckoning of time)Galadriel is his granddaughter just do you know. Yeah. She’s very important throughout the entire histories. They are passing away with what’s left of their kin to the undying lands. Many thousands had their home in middle earth just like the high kings ancestors that woke to the stars. Their birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. You’d love to react to the immersive and entertaining lore videos like moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done. It’s ever vast and rewarding to let touch your soul.❤❤❤❤ •Á Elbereth Gilthoniel “o Elbereth who lit the stars” •silivren penna míriel “from glittering crystal slanting falls with light like jewels” •Ò menel aglar elenath “from heaven on high the glory of the starry host” •na-chaered palan-díriel “to lands remote I have looked afar” •ò galadhremmin ennorath “from tree-tangled middle-lands” •Fanuilos, le linnathon “and now to thee, Fanuilos, bright spirit clothed in ever-white, I will ... sing” •nef aear, sí nef aearon “here ... beyond the Sea, beyond the wide and sundering Sea” •Ã Elbereth Gilthoniel² “o Elbereth who lit the stars” •Ò menel palan-diriel “from heaven gazing far” •le nallon sí di’nguruthos “here overwhelmed in dread of Death I cry” a tiro nin, Fanuilos “o guard me, Elbereth” The elvish name given to Varda is Elbereth Gilthoniel is one of the main Valar who are of the main group of entities known as the Ainur who sang the world into being & helped shaped it further from within after some entered into the young world. She is most loved & honoured by the elves for many reasons) It’s very important as regarding the elves history that spanned over 40,000+ years. Their ancestors birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. Varda is a Quenya name of Valarin origin meaning "Sublime", "Exalted" or "Lofty" Elbereth is name given to her by the elves meaning ‘Star Lady’ Gilthoniel essentially means Star Kindler An original title of Varda, meaning 'the Kindler', and deriving from her making of the first faint stars in ancient times which was to light the dark world which had no sun yet and they loomed over the original Dark Lord (Fallen Valar named Morgoth by the elves) who he feared most above all even as supposedly he was the mightiest and first of all Ainur to ever exist (Ainur is the ultimate race of both Maiar and Valar) When, long afterwards, she used the dews of Telperion(one of the two sacred trees that predated the Moon of which it birthed later on) to kindle brighter stars still, this honorific name seems to have fallen out of favour. After that time she was called instead Elentári, the Queen of the Stars. ((Originally they both spent time with these elves & you’ll learn about it when reacting to those lore or discussion QA special topic videos etc!))
Peter Jackson decided to have Saruman join forces with Sauron in order to keep the audience's focus fixed on Sauron. In the book, things go a little -- no, a LOT -- differently.
Here’s something not many people mention but I will in a bit - The reason the bugs & worms were coming out of the soil when the Ringwraith was near the hiding hobbits (and the reason the dog was afraid of the searching Ringwraith earlier) is because the Nazgul are so vile and terrible that nature itself abhors them. Even the trees were shuddering as they approached the hobbits on the road, which is why Frodo yelled, "Get off the road! Quick!" They are anti-life ("neither living nor dead" as Aragorn describes them). They are servants of Sauron, aka Gorthaur, aka "Abomination." Just touching one could injure or kill you. Thus the creepy crawlies in the earth wanted to move away from it as fast as possible.
Oh man! Frodo is 53. Not 15 haha! 40 or so is their reaching adulthood essentially. The current ages of the characters: Frodo Baggins is 53. Samwise Gamgee is 38. Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry) is 36. Peregrin Took (Pippin) is 28. Gandalf (Olòrin) - is 15,000 (in his current form. Aragorn is 87. Legolas is 2,931. Gimli is 139. Boromir son of Denethor II is 41! Elves aged differently than men and dwarves. They did not suffer from old age or disease, and their lives were not limited by a fixed number of years. Instead, they aged very slowly, remaining youthful and vigorous for much longer than mortals. Though they could voluntarily leave their bodies and the ultimate thing that can kill them is grief or Sorrow that’s palpable enough for them to just not wish to live anymore. Here are the ages of some of the main Elves of the Third Age, as of the War of the Ring: 1. Elrond Half-elven - about 6,586 while his daughter is 3,777 old! 2. Galadriel - around 20,000 3. Celeborn - 20,000; (he may have been alive before her birth or around the same time as his lineage that he lived amongst his forefathers and kin might suggest he is older but they are both very ancient.) 4. Glorfindel (replaced scenes with Arwen in the movies but it helped prop up Aragorn’s Film character progression. I still think they could have incorporated them both in the scenes somehow and included the other important stuff that went on in that forest meeting Glorfindel and his company of elves)- he’s over 2,000 (although he had been re-embodied after dying in the First Age which means his Fëa {spirit} is far older than 2000.) 5. Thranduil - over 8000, (as he was born in the First Age and lived in Doriath with his father Oropher; Thranduil is also the father of Legolas. (As Haldir mentioned him when speaking to Legolas in Lothlòrien during the first movie’s extended scene. He shares the same kindred elven clan as to Celeborn(Galadriel’s husband). It's worth noting that Elves could choose to die voluntarily, usually when they grew weary of life or when they had fulfilled their purpose in the world. However, their spirits would then depart to the Halls of Mandos and could eventually be re-embodied in a new body I meant to add that Frodo was 51 when he left due to the whole Gandalf coming back to the shire after many years. that explains why his youthful appearance didn’t change much throughout the entire film!
"Weren't' there two others? Galadriel and another wizard?" You're thinking of the White Council in The Hobbit. That was Galadriel and Elrond, but he wasn't a wizard. He was half-elf, in fact, his sobriquet was "Elrond Half-Elven."
Yes. Elrond Peredhel but he chose to become full elf. The half elf title is just a monicker of his lineage because the true half elf was Eärendil and his wife Elwing was also born as a full elf with partial Maiar blood from her grandmother Melian the Maia. Amazing stuff. Endless. Boundless. Bountifully beautiful. ❤️
Galadriel is actually Arwen's grandmother. And it actually says ALOT about Borimer that his first statement was one of concern for the Hobbits. He was truly sorry for his moment of weakness. ❤ And Aragorn took borimers bracers from his wrists and wears them throughout the rest of the movie.
Ahhhh ok ok that explains the resemblance I’m assuming lol. Yeah you could really tell he regretted his actions but that’s cool how Aragorn kinda like honored him through that. I must’ve missed him taking broker’s bracers unless they didn’t show that?
Just in case you didn’t read it from the previous upload of this movie’s theatrical release that they were forced to release this way I’ll share something - Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves (300-500years world of infiltration & deception down to the drain) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." The One Ring’s power over people explained here:As for the rings given to these groups:They were all meant to go to the elves but Mairon of the Maiar disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements and questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ Aside from the three Elven Rings Made In Secret Without Saurons presence or touch upon them through Celebrimbor!
Important addendum here: the AMAZON series "Rings of Power" is PRETENDING to be about exactly this time ... but it is an absolute ABOMINATION and changes EVERYTHING for "modern day political ideology reasons". For this reason, Amari / everyone, NEVER WATCH that awful series!
Regarding not remembering Gandalf throwing the Ring into Frodo's fireplace the first time around, I've found that most good movies -- and all great ones -- are worth watching again if only to see things you didn't or to re-see things you did see but didn't understand the first time. I predict that will happen to you during the rest of the movie.
It’s beyond the 100th time for me and I always see new things. Both humorous things and or reminds me of several long discussions from the many groups and communities I’ve been a part of for years connecting to the Silmarillion or his other 25 books. The lofty themes only get clearer with each dive. ❤
Rest of the movie yes. One movie split into three parts. Also was filmed all at the same time as well! One thing shown in the behind the scenes playlist is that they filmed it all like that because everything in the book is sort of happening simultaneously. They even showed clips of which scenes were happening at the same time in different locations via a side by side of all the scenes. Which was interesting. ❤
@@Makkaru112 And I suspect that another reason for simultaneous filming might have been the fact that for many scenes where a tall character is conversing with a short one, only one of them and a size-double for the other was needed for filming, while the other main actor could be off someplace filming something else. Didn't even have to be for the same film!
@@Makkaru112 "Rest of the movie yes. One movie split into three parts." True, but I don't think Amari has seen the other two. At least, I couldn't find them in his channel.
Frodo, at least in the book, was fifty years old -- the exact same age Bilbo was when he started out on his adventure. (It's good to be the author.) In fact Bilbo and Frodo shared a birthday, and Frodo was 33 when Bilbo turned 111. Their total, 144, was also the number of guests invited to the feast under the Party Tree, although most of the Shire attended at other places. Some invitees grumbled at the thought that they might have been invited solely to make up that number. "One gross! How vulgar!" But Peter Jackson played very loose with elapsed time through out the movie. In the book, Gandalf was gone for seventeen years looking into the Ring's history. Convenient that 33 and 17 makes 50, isn't it? Again, it's good to be the author. But the pacing of the movie couldn't possibly stand a seventeen-year gap, just like Frodo and Sam couldn't take the unhurried preparation for leaving The Shire they did in the book.
About the Sackville-Bagginses: They only appear in the extended version of the movie, but they play a significant role in the book. Otho and his wife Lobelia Sackville-Baggins are Bilbo's closest living relatives (Otho is Bilbo's first cousin), so they would have inherited Bag End on Bilbo's death. This is why Bilbo says, "They've never forgiven me for living this long." They had originally started to move in at the end of The Hobbit story, so they had been put off for 60 years. Their hopes were finally dashed when Bilbo adopted Frodo 12 years before the story begins. In the book, the Sackville-Bagginses play an important part at the end of the story; Peter Jackson & Co. decided not to include this in the movie.
This makes me more eager to read the books lol but ahhh ok ok no one has explained that to me so it makes sense why they were mad at bilbo😂 preciate your comments!
One other thing: I can't find your watchings of the other two movies, so I suspect you didn't do them. I encourage you to watch all three this time. It will be worth it.
At 39:20 you say, "I remember mistaking these mines for the same area Bilbo and the other Dwarves were in when they were fighting Smaug--that was the Misty Mountains, right?" Yes, the same mountains but a different pass. Bilbo and the Dwarves crossed the Misty Mountains north of the Mines of Moria, where Bilbo encountered Gollum in his cave. In the intervening years, Gollum had left his cave and started trying to find Bilbo and recover his "Precious." He had been drawn south to Mordor and there captured and tortured by Sauron's forces. After being released from the Barad-dur, Gollum had returned to the north and had tried to go through the mines in the opposite direction to the Fellowship; that is, east to west. He couldn't get out of the West Door because of the Watcher in the Water, and he was still there when the Fellowship came through, going west to east.
Ohhhh ok ok so I wasn’t too far off lol I knew I wasn’t trippin and that’s pretty cool so gollum wasn’t necessarily following the fellowship but just came across them?
At 19:40 you ask, "Weren't there like four [wizards]?" There were five Istari, or Wizards, who came to Middle-earth about 2000 years before our story. The first and chief of the five was Curunir, or Saruman the White. Next was Mithrandir, or Gandalf the Grey. Of the other three, Radagast the Brown is briefly mentioned in the book; Peter Jackson & Co. give him an expanded role in the Hobbit movies. The other two are not named in the book; in his commentaries, Tolkien calls them the Blue Wizards. They went to the East of Middle-earth and may have been corrupted by Sauron--at any rate they play no part in the story.
At 32:05 you ask, "How old is Frodo?" Peter Jackson & Co. chose to speed up the time line of the movie greatly beyond Tolkien's book in order to make exciting movies that would better appeal to a younger movie-going audience. In the book, Frodo is 50 years old when he leaves Bag End. His three Hobbit companions are in their late 20s or early 30s, although since Frodo has owned the Ring for 17 years, he still appears to be about the same age as they. In the movie, every one is at least ten years younger; they all appear to be in their early to mid twenties (Elijah Wood was 19 when filming began). The action in the movie appears to take place over a period of several weeks to a couple of months from Bilbo's Birthday Party to the arrival at Rivendell. In the book 17 years elapse, most of which was taken up by Gandalf trying to discover the history of Bilbo's Ring. Two different versions of the same story.
Wow that’s pretty cool! It’s crazy how time and aging works in this series and to think Gandalf spent 17 years researching and in the movie it only seems like a couple hours😂
30:40 That's NOT Arwen commanding the water ... it was done by Elrond (and Gandalf) ... and "the rest of the group" was chasing the Nazgul into the flood by burning some bushes ...
You wanted us to do it again so here I am to set the record straight about Isildur who was done dirty as if he was some lowly normal human monarch. Númenoreans(especially from his lineage and that of his father and kin were superhuman with heavy elvish blood. I’ll explain more of that through story about Elrond and Aragorn etc in the comments of the second movie.) (No spoilers) The movies are masterpieces but they do Isildur some injustice. In the books, while he later ‘succumbs’, he spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave power away to the people instead of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails. In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy! * He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro. * He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse). Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good. * They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself. They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars ! Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those within the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am)
The Easteners are the representatives of the Turks-and-associates that were genoc*ding Mediterranean, Armenian and Assyrian Christians during and after WWI. Tolkien lived in those times so he put references in the books
@@AmariMorris do book clubs or public readings like KSO (reading aloud during live streams. Way better and easier in my opinion.) and LIPSMACKER (designated book club dates) have been doing
No matter how perfect they got Galadriel right and expertly cast they still dropped the ball a bit. She’s FULLY good and is what Sauron fears the most above all. Yes. He fears her greatly indeed. I’ll explain why by giving you a snippet from this chapter scene in the book. Sam was with Frodo when he was with Galadriel. Only the cartoon LOTR got it right. By Bakshi. Buuuut it still is the best set of films in the world that all took inspiration from - You’ll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel the great Peter Jackson & team didn’t seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & the”one who has seen the eye” thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like “so creepy lol” which diminishes how much farther that well done scene could have gone especially in the extended to do it properly as in the books that latex it out perfectly.: •[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. “I know what it was that you last saw”, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlórien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!' She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Eärendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood. 'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of Lórien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper. 'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and Lothlórien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.' Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last. 'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of Lothlórien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.' 'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.' Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest? 'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!' She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad. 'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.' They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.' 'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?' 'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam. 'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.' 'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!' When] at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it.... Meaning definitely by now it’s become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldn’t find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. That’s power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the Nazgûl run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head Nazgûl). Remember Númenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman & very tall. Between 6-8 feet.
In the books Frodo is actually 50 years old when he starts his journey. Hobbits age much slower than humans. in their 30s they are still considered teenages. At the age of 33 they come of age.
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Walking very long is tiring at first, but you get used to it. I walked 95 miles in 10 days on the PCT with my dad. You very much get used to it, and it stops being tiring.
There was some awesome you’ll find out in the lore videos and other things.. such as even small things like when Boromir blew his famous horn it actually caused the Balrog to draw back in semi fear and access the fellowship further with his gaze. There was also a sequence when gandalf was drawing tunes on gates and so forth to keep the Balrog out while they travelled elsewhere etc. heck even in the behind the scenes stuff gives an extended prologue by Galadriel(Cate Blanchet) which actually gives more about Sauron and his nature as a “fallen” Maia spirit etc. ❤
Funny thing is even in the books it shows that Boromir was the best of them all. And there was always the intention split if they had to and Boromir always intended to go back to Minas Tirith in Gondor. There are many awesome things to react to that only a few channels have done with the massive awesome lore and discussion videos that are seriously fun and immersive. (Middle Earth Is Midgard and Midgard is our world. Thanks to my Nordic ancestry and my drive to keep the culture alive I can tell you this. That Tolkien was keeping our true history and ancient knowledge and languages alive. Especially for that of old English and pre-England mythology and folklore/culture etc. ❤
Yo thats so cool that theres so much more than what most would catch/know about this series. It's for sure interesting to see and learn about🙏🏾
@@AmariMorrisyeah. Also neat thing in the books is Boromir and Aragorn are more alike than one may imagine from the movies. Even just the way they process things and the practical wisdoms they have etc. ❤
Sometimes i tend to forget how long the lord of the rings is 😭✋🏽
RESPECTS TO YOU MAN 🙏🏽✨️
Thank you for supporting Amari. He’s a truly great soul. I’m just one of his mods and friends haha ❤
lol yeah they’re so long😭 but it’s definitely worth it for sure🙏🏾
I don’t know if I’m the theatrical version someone commented this but Man is mankind and it’s not about male or female. The greatest heros among many were FEMALE, Lúthien, Idril, Haleth, Andreth(for other reasons) and one other I won’t name for she is in the next movies. (Extended will give payoffs at the final movie)
lol yeah I wasn’t serious when I said that
Yes. All in New Zealand. All 3 movies filmed at the same time. Then released in different times.
There is some cool stuff I added to this older comment of mine from another video. I don’t always share it but this time I was brought back to it in my mind which had me thinking of several things to add to it. - The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript] C The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in ‘fear’(not cowardice) & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras.
See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund(but he went out like a G so to speak. He was Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was the most important in the Legendarium & is the main reason the third age even exists) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down, but Saruman(Curumo) was the mostly already becoming weary due to what was called The along Defeat, magic bleeding out from the lands of middle earth and subsequently certain things become less and less possible and the elves begin to go west. Even the ones who never wished to leave middle earth and many of which were born here by the thousands.
Saruman never wished to serve Sauron. He spent so much time studying the enemy and the minds of the enemy and so forth so he could masterfully counter them at every turn in all instances. He’s been stalwart against “evil” for thousands of years. And even for the few thousand he spent upon middle earth in the form of an old man. Equally as limited as Gandalf but perhaps with a slightly less tight cap on his power as a Maia. But you’ll be surprised with the second movie because I’ll share more stuff with you about Gandalf when that video is uploaded. (Extended. Otherwise certain character backstory will be missed and we don’t want that now so we?) haha 😂😅❤
Frodo is 53 now because Gandalf was doing all sorts of epic travelling and collecting as much lore as he could find on several things including about Isildur and the one ring for 17 years. Yes. 17 years. Frodo’s birthday is same as Bilbo too so it all adds up!
The birthday party at the start happens when BOTH Bilbo and Frodo have their birthday (they share the same birthday ... September 22nd) ... Bilbo at 111 and Frodo at 33 (coming of age).
I must illuminate my buddy Amari here about the passing of the elves sequence that Frodo and Sam beheld as the began their early journey! - The song you hear when the elves were spotted in the forest by Frodo and Sam is very important as regarding the elves history spanned over 40,000+ years. Because even one of the three high kings within Valinor was 30,000 years old well before the third age.(since time measured differently. The time before the sun & moons reckoning of time)Galadriel is his granddaughter just do you know. Yeah. She’s very important throughout the entire histories. They are passing away with what’s left of their kin to the undying lands. Many thousands had their home in middle earth just like the high kings ancestors that woke to the stars. Their birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. You’d love to react to the immersive and entertaining lore videos like moviejoob and OmarioRPG have done. It’s ever vast and rewarding to let touch your soul.❤❤❤❤
•Á Elbereth Gilthoniel
“o Elbereth who lit the stars”
•silivren penna míriel “from glittering crystal slanting falls with light like jewels”
•Ò menel aglar elenath “from heaven on high the glory of the starry host”
•na-chaered palan-díriel “to lands remote I have looked afar”
•ò galadhremmin ennorath “from tree-tangled middle-lands”
•Fanuilos, le linnathon “and now to thee, Fanuilos, bright spirit clothed in ever-white, I will ... sing”
•nef aear, sí nef aearon “here ... beyond the Sea, beyond the wide and sundering Sea”
•Ã Elbereth Gilthoniel²
“o Elbereth who lit the stars”
•Ò menel palan-diriel
“from heaven gazing far”
•le nallon sí di’nguruthos “here overwhelmed in dread of Death I cry”
a tiro nin, Fanuilos “o guard me, Elbereth”
The elvish name given to Varda is Elbereth Gilthoniel is one of the main Valar who are of the main group of entities known as the Ainur who sang the world into being & helped shaped it further from within after some entered into the young world. She is most loved & honoured by the elves for many reasons)
It’s very important as regarding the elves history that spanned over 40,000+ years. Their ancestors birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story.
Varda is a Quenya name of Valarin origin meaning "Sublime", "Exalted" or "Lofty"
Elbereth is name given to her by the elves meaning ‘Star Lady’
Gilthoniel essentially means Star Kindler
An original title of Varda, meaning 'the Kindler', and deriving from her making of the first faint stars in ancient times which was to light the dark world which had no sun yet and they loomed over the original Dark Lord (Fallen Valar named Morgoth by the elves) who he feared most above all even as supposedly he was the mightiest and first of all Ainur to ever exist (Ainur is the ultimate race of both Maiar and Valar)
When, long afterwards, she used the dews of Telperion(one of the two sacred trees that predated the Moon of which it birthed later on) to kindle brighter stars still, this honorific name seems to have fallen out of favour. After that time she was called instead Elentári, the Queen of the Stars.
((Originally they both spent time with these elves & you’ll learn about it when reacting to those lore or discussion QA special topic videos etc!))
Peter Jackson decided to have Saruman join forces with Sauron in order to keep the audience's focus fixed on Sauron. In the book, things go a little -- no, a LOT -- differently.
Yeah. It wasn’t so simple. I explained a bit in one of my comments about the whole tower thing. ❤️
I plan on reading the books after I complete the series so I’m hype fr
Here’s something not many people mention but I will in a bit - The reason the bugs & worms were coming out of the soil when the Ringwraith was near the hiding hobbits (and the reason the dog was afraid of the searching Ringwraith earlier) is because the Nazgul are so vile and terrible that nature itself abhors them. Even the trees were shuddering as they approached the hobbits on the road, which is why Frodo yelled, "Get off the road! Quick!" They are anti-life ("neither living nor dead" as Aragorn describes them). They are servants of Sauron, aka Gorthaur, aka
"Abomination." Just touching one could injure or kill you. Thus the creepy crawlies in the earth wanted to move away from it as fast as possible.
Wow thats wild lol
Oh man! Frodo is 53. Not 15 haha! 40 or so is their reaching adulthood essentially.
The current ages of the characters: Frodo Baggins is 53. Samwise Gamgee is 38. Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry) is 36. Peregrin Took (Pippin) is 28. Gandalf (Olòrin) - is 15,000 (in his current form. Aragorn is 87. Legolas is 2,931. Gimli is 139. Boromir son of Denethor II is 41!
Elves aged differently than men and dwarves. They did not suffer from old age or disease, and their lives were not limited by a fixed number of years. Instead, they aged very slowly, remaining youthful and vigorous for much longer than mortals. Though they could voluntarily leave their bodies and the ultimate thing that can kill them is grief or Sorrow that’s palpable enough for them to just not wish to live anymore.
Here are the ages of some of the main Elves of the Third Age, as of the War of the Ring:
1. Elrond Half-elven - about 6,586 while his daughter is 3,777 old!
2. Galadriel - around 20,000
3. Celeborn - 20,000; (he may have been alive before her birth or around the same time as his lineage that he lived amongst his forefathers and kin might suggest he is older but they are both very ancient.)
4. Glorfindel (replaced scenes with Arwen in the movies but it helped prop up Aragorn’s Film character progression. I still think they could have incorporated them both in the scenes somehow and included the other important stuff that went on in that forest meeting Glorfindel and his company of elves)- he’s over 2,000 (although he had been re-embodied after dying in the First Age which means his Fëa {spirit} is far older than 2000.)
5. Thranduil - over 8000, (as he was born in the First Age and lived in Doriath with his father Oropher; Thranduil is also the father of Legolas. (As Haldir mentioned him when speaking to Legolas in Lothlòrien during the first movie’s extended scene. He shares the same kindred elven clan as to Celeborn(Galadriel’s husband).
It's worth noting that Elves could choose to die voluntarily, usually when they grew weary of life or when they had fulfilled their purpose in the world. However, their spirits would then depart to the Halls of Mandos and could eventually be re-embodied in a new
body
I meant to add that Frodo was 51 when he left due to the whole Gandalf coming back to the shire after many years. that explains why his youthful appearance didn’t change much throughout the entire film!
"Weren't' there two others? Galadriel and another wizard?" You're thinking of the White Council in The Hobbit. That was Galadriel and Elrond, but he wasn't a wizard. He was half-elf, in fact, his sobriquet was "Elrond Half-Elven."
Yes. Elrond Peredhel but he chose to become full elf. The half elf title is just a monicker of his lineage because the true half elf was Eärendil and his wife Elwing was also born as a full elf with partial Maiar blood from her grandmother Melian the Maia. Amazing stuff. Endless. Boundless. Bountifully beautiful. ❤️
Ohh yeah you’re right I do recall those names now that I see them lol🙏🏾
Galadriel is actually Arwen's grandmother. And it actually says ALOT about Borimer that his first statement was one of concern for the Hobbits. He was truly sorry for his moment of weakness. ❤ And Aragorn took borimers bracers from his wrists and wears them throughout the rest of the movie.
Ahhhh ok ok that explains the resemblance I’m assuming lol. Yeah you could really tell he regretted his actions but that’s cool how Aragorn kinda like honored him through that. I must’ve missed him taking broker’s bracers unless they didn’t show that?
They didn’t show him take them, but they showed him putting one of them on
*Boromir
The elves are "complicated" ... unless you know about the family connections and the age of them (and the "Galadriel & Feanor" bit).
Just in case you didn’t read it from the previous upload of this movie’s theatrical release that they were forced to release this way I’ll share something - Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves (300-500years world of infiltration & deception down to the drain) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
The One Ring’s power over people explained here:As for the rings given to these groups:They were all meant to go to the elves but Mairon of the Maiar disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements and questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ Aside from the three Elven Rings Made In Secret Without Saurons presence or touch upon them through Celebrimbor!
Important addendum here: the AMAZON series "Rings of Power" is PRETENDING to be about exactly this time ... but it is an absolute ABOMINATION and changes EVERYTHING for "modern day political ideology reasons". For this reason, Amari / everyone, NEVER WATCH that awful series!
Regarding not remembering Gandalf throwing the Ring into Frodo's fireplace the first time around, I've found that most good movies -- and all great ones -- are worth watching again if only to see things you didn't or to re-see things you did see but didn't understand the first time. I predict that will happen to you during the rest of the movie.
It’s beyond the 100th time for me and I always see new things. Both humorous things and or reminds me of several long discussions from the many groups and communities I’ve been a part of for years connecting to the Silmarillion or his other 25 books. The lofty themes only get clearer with each dive. ❤
Rest of the movie yes. One movie split into three parts. Also was filmed all at the same time as well! One thing shown in the behind the scenes playlist is that they filmed it all like that because everything in the book is sort of happening simultaneously. They even showed clips of which scenes were happening at the same time in different locations via a side by side of all the scenes. Which was interesting. ❤
@@Makkaru112 Me, too, my friend. Not as deeply into Middle-Earth lore as you are, but I still see new things, or at least things new for me.
@@Makkaru112 And I suspect that another reason for simultaneous filming might have been the fact that for many scenes where a tall character is conversing with a short one, only one of them and a size-double for the other was needed for filming, while the other main actor could be off someplace filming something else. Didn't even have to be for the same film!
@@Makkaru112 "Rest of the movie yes. One movie split into three parts." True, but I don't think Amari has seen the other two. At least, I couldn't find them in his channel.
Frodo, at least in the book, was fifty years old -- the exact same age Bilbo was when he started out on his adventure. (It's good to be the author.) In fact Bilbo and Frodo shared a birthday, and Frodo was 33 when Bilbo turned 111. Their total, 144, was also the number of guests invited to the feast under the Party Tree, although most of the Shire attended at other places. Some invitees grumbled at the thought that they might have been invited solely to make up that number. "One gross! How vulgar!"
But Peter Jackson played very loose with elapsed time through out the movie. In the book, Gandalf was gone for seventeen years looking into the Ring's history. Convenient that 33 and 17 makes 50, isn't it? Again, it's good to be the author. But the pacing of the movie couldn't possibly stand a seventeen-year gap, just like Frodo and Sam couldn't take the unhurried preparation for leaving The Shire they did in the book.
About the Sackville-Bagginses: They only appear in the extended version of the movie, but they play a significant role in the book. Otho and his wife Lobelia Sackville-Baggins are Bilbo's closest living relatives (Otho is Bilbo's first cousin), so they would have inherited Bag End on Bilbo's death. This is why Bilbo says, "They've never forgiven me for living this long." They had originally started to move in at the end of The Hobbit story, so they had been put off for 60 years. Their hopes were finally dashed when Bilbo adopted Frodo 12 years before the story begins. In the book, the Sackville-Bagginses play an important part at the end of the story; Peter Jackson & Co. decided not to include this in the movie.
This makes me more eager to read the books lol but ahhh ok ok no one has explained that to me so it makes sense why they were mad at bilbo😂 preciate your comments!
After the filming of all three the fellowship got tattoos that read "9 companions" written in Elvish.
Yoo that’s cool! I know the experience of working on this movie was amazing for sure🔥
One other thing: I can't find your watchings of the other two movies, so I suspect you didn't do them. I encourage you to watch all three this time. It will be worth it.
Second one on the way!🙏🏾
At 39:20 you say, "I remember mistaking these mines for the same area Bilbo and the other Dwarves were in when they were fighting Smaug--that was the Misty Mountains, right?" Yes, the same mountains but a different pass. Bilbo and the Dwarves crossed the Misty Mountains north of the Mines of Moria, where Bilbo encountered Gollum in his cave. In the intervening years, Gollum had left his cave and started trying to find Bilbo and recover his "Precious." He had been drawn south to Mordor and there captured and tortured by Sauron's forces. After being released from the Barad-dur, Gollum had returned to the north and had tried to go through the mines in the opposite direction to the Fellowship; that is, east to west. He couldn't get out of the West Door because of the Watcher in the Water, and he was still there when the Fellowship came through, going west to east.
Ohhhh ok ok so I wasn’t too far off lol I knew I wasn’t trippin and that’s pretty cool so gollum wasn’t necessarily following the fellowship but just came across them?
At 19:40 you ask, "Weren't there like four [wizards]?" There were five Istari, or Wizards, who came to Middle-earth about 2000 years before our story. The first and chief of the five was Curunir, or Saruman the White. Next was Mithrandir, or Gandalf the Grey. Of the other three, Radagast the Brown is briefly mentioned in the book; Peter Jackson & Co. give him an expanded role in the Hobbit movies. The other two are not named in the book; in his commentaries, Tolkien calls them the Blue Wizards. They went to the East of Middle-earth and may have been corrupted by Sauron--at any rate they play no part in the story.
I remember Radagast from the hobbit🔥I wonder why they decided not to include them in the story but I guess their irrelevant but that’s cool
At 32:05 you ask, "How old is Frodo?" Peter Jackson & Co. chose to speed up the time line of the movie greatly beyond Tolkien's book in order to make exciting movies that would better appeal to a younger movie-going audience. In the book, Frodo is 50 years old when he leaves Bag End. His three Hobbit companions are in their late 20s or early 30s, although since Frodo has owned the Ring for 17 years, he still appears to be about the same age as they. In the movie, every one is at least ten years younger; they all appear to be in their early to mid twenties (Elijah Wood was 19 when filming began). The action in the movie appears to take place over a period of several weeks to a couple of months from Bilbo's Birthday Party to the arrival at Rivendell. In the book 17 years elapse, most of which was taken up by Gandalf trying to discover the history of Bilbo's Ring. Two different versions of the same story.
Wow that’s pretty cool! It’s crazy how time and aging works in this series and to think Gandalf spent 17 years researching and in the movie it only seems like a couple hours😂
30:40 That's NOT Arwen commanding the water ... it was done by Elrond (and Gandalf) ... and "the rest of the group" was chasing the Nazgul into the flood by burning some bushes ...
There were 5 Istari [wizards] Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast ''The Brown'' and the two blue wizards
Ohhh yeah I remember seeing Radagast in the first hobbit movie. Fireee
You wanted us to do it again so here I am to set the record straight about Isildur who was done dirty as if he was some lowly normal human monarch. Númenoreans(especially from his lineage and that of his father and kin were superhuman with heavy elvish blood. I’ll explain more of that through story about Elrond and Aragorn etc in the comments of the second movie.)
(No spoilers) The movies are masterpieces but they do Isildur some injustice. In the books, while he later ‘succumbs’, he spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave power away to the people instead of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails.
In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil
I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy!
* He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro.
* He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse).
Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good.
* They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself.
They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars !
Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those within the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am)
Awesome. I was hoping you’d return to this. ❤
The Easteners are the representatives of the Turks-and-associates that were genoc*ding Mediterranean, Armenian and Assyrian Christians during and after WWI. Tolkien lived in those times so he put references in the books
Oh wow that’s crazy would have never known that by just watching the films. I plan on getting the books once I watch the movies.
@@AmariMorris do book clubs or public readings like KSO (reading aloud during live streams. Way better and easier in my opinion.) and LIPSMACKER (designated book club dates) have been doing
No matter how perfect they got Galadriel right and expertly cast they still dropped the ball a bit. She’s FULLY good and is what Sauron fears the most above all. Yes. He fears her greatly indeed. I’ll explain why by giving you a snippet from this chapter scene in the book. Sam was with Frodo when he was with Galadriel. Only the cartoon LOTR got it right. By Bakshi. Buuuut it still is the best set of films in the world that all took inspiration from - You’ll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel the great Peter Jackson & team didn’t seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & the”one who has seen the eye” thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like “so creepy lol” which diminishes how much farther that well done scene could have gone especially in the extended to do it properly as in the books that latex it out perfectly.: •[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. “I know what it was that you last saw”, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlórien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!'
She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Eärendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood.
'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of Lórien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper.
'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and Lothlórien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.'
Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last.
'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of Lothlórien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.'
'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.'
Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest?
'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!'
She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad.
'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.'
They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.'
'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?'
'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam.
'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.'
'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!'
When] at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it....
Meaning definitely by now it’s become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldn’t find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. That’s power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the Nazgûl run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head Nazgûl). Remember Númenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman & very tall. Between 6-8 feet.
In the books Frodo is actually 50 years old when he starts his journey. Hobbits age much slower than humans. in their 30s they are still considered teenages. At the age of 33 they come of age.
The aging is crazy in this universe lol had me surprised when I found out Aragorn was in his 80s😂
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition:
(1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition
(2) The Two Tower Extended Edition
(3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition
Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
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39:30 GET ... YOURSELF ... A ... COPY ... OF ... THE ... MAP!
[Smaug is / was at the LONELY MOUNTAIN far far to the northeast, this is the "Misty Mountains".]
"Man" = short form of HUman ...
[WOman is short for "human with a womb".]
Walking very long is tiring at first, but you get used to it. I walked 95 miles in 10 days on the PCT with my dad. You very much get used to it, and it stops being tiring.
That makes sense lol but that’s crazy damn. How’d your legs feel the next day?😂