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How to Shoot with a Red Dot Sight - Tips & Tricks
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2022
- Aaron and Sawyer revisit the topic of red dot sights on pistols and how to "find the dot" and keep it in the window through strings of fire. Check out our new practice target that we just came out with, designed specifically for practicing shooting with a red dot!
www.bit.ly/Dottracking
The top row of 2" circles can be used to practice the "80/20 rule" that we discussed. (Draw from the holster quickly and slow down for the last 20% as you acquire the dot and focus it on the target and send one round accurately in the circle. Repeat and gradually try to increase speed to a 90/10 ratio and even a 95/5.)
The second row of 2" circles can be used to practice tracking the dot through strings of fire. This will let you know if you need to work more on grip, recoil management, and cadence. Start slow and make sure you can keep all the shots inside the circle, then move to the next circle and pick up the cadence a little bit, keep tracking the dot and be accurate. Increase the speed and cadence until you notice you can't keep your rounds in the circle.
The bottom 2 rectangles (3"x5") can be used to "put it all together." From the draw, fire anywhere from 3-6 rounds accurately within the rectangle, keeping in mind all that we've worked on up to this point such as the "80/20 rule," seeing the dot drop in from 12 o'clock, cadence, etc. If successful, try to increase speed and cadence in the second rectangle.
Keep in mind these are just suggestions and things that we have found to help us, personally. None of this is new or original, simply just points that we have learned from instructors like Donovan Moore, Scott Jedlinski, Ernest Langdon, and others!
Thanks for watching and let us know what you thought in the comments section!!
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Something I greatly appreciate about your content: It’s clean. You guys aren’t swearing for swearing’s sake and I can enjoy watching the videos with my young son to help him understand what I do as a firearm instructor and to let him observe safe and effective gun handling.
You also aren’t afraid to show the misses and explain the learning that is happening. Humble is healthy.
Bravo, gents, always a pleasure!
Thanks so much, we appreciate it!
Man Tony, I couldn't agree more. I watched a different guys channel recently and it was F this F that, F'd that up blah blah blah...what an unprofessional idiot. And this was teaching an actual class!
Jesus titty fucking christ. Are you serious? You're out here for the holy, buddy? Cunt and fuck are amazing words. thanks for not cursing, mehhhh. Change your wanpon
These tier 1 guys are showing the reason that red dots suck for most apps. Get use to it playing around and then go to irons for fighting and you're gonna wish you never used em. They make little sense.
@@JackBurton7130 I regret not going to red dots years ago on my pistols I am much faster from target to target and my accuracy has improved exponentially.
For me the biggest thing is really Focus on the target, letting the dot come in to picture naturally. If I find myself looking for the dot I don’t find it as fast.
This is exactly what I do too
ACSS reticle. Love mine. Super quick
Exactly! Sometimes you just have to simplify things and not overthink it.
@@Quantiples amen to that
@@Tier1Concealed K.i.S.S. method. Keep it simple stupid 😅
What I think, you guys talk with a simple man's voice and instruction. Your teaching/instructions are easy to follow. What I think is I wanna be like you, rich and famous, good lookin and popular! Keep up the great work!🙏
hahaha we might be kind of popular, but I don't know about those other things! Thank you!!
I like the way you guys explain drills just like a normal person. I found out I was dipping my head.
That was an awesome, informative video! Thanks guys! Keep the fun/ teaching videos coming !
I think you guys may have the most beautiful, and scenic gun range in the US! That would make it hard to even care about the dot 😀
Good show guys!!
This is a great community we are in as fun toting Americans. Love how we all just want everyone to have the best tools and know how when it comes to firearms and EDCing… Awesome stuff guys, keep on keeping on 🤘🏽…
Great stuff! Thanks again for putting out not only great products on your website but great content on your channel! Keep up the great work; proud to support all of you there at T1C
I, too, appreciate the clean and simple lessons. Thanks for another.
Good stuff as always guys! Thanks for your efforts.
Amazing what you can learn from practicing techniques like this from you guys and some other instructors . Scott’s teaching videos on grip and again lots of presentation practice have been a game changer. Thanks guys!
Awesome video tons of very valuable information. Thanks guys keep up the great work.
This is a great video. After coming back to a red dot for the second time due to my aging eyes, the thing I found that helped me is when I figured out to stop ducking my head to the gun as it comes up. I have no issues finding the dot when I keep my head up and just bring the gun into my eyesight.
Thank you for the video and target. Much appreciated.
Thanks guys. Great video and information.
Being a red dot instructor, I gotta say you guys did a really good job on this video. I will use this in my training to further support the methods I teach.
Awesome! Thank you!
So you're instructor. What part did you gain from this that you weren't already teaching? In very curious.
@@JackBurton7130 I used the way you explain "consistent presentation" to give a different way to deliver the information on how I was taught presentation. I have learned they way I learned things don't always work for others. As an instructor I am always looking for different ways to explain the same fundamentals. I also incorporated shot timers to show students real data on progression.
Really great tips. Thank you. Subscribed.
Great job on this video guys. I also am right handed and left eye dominate. Sucks but that is what I'm stuck with. Thank you for all the great tips!!
The easiest way for me to find the dot is ALWAYS target focus and ise that as your fr6int sight...and your rear sight is the dot as you bring it up level with your eyes both open.
It didnt take long doing it that way for me.
Thanks guys!
Nice. I will be using this for sure. Great job fellas
Well explained and great concept guys. Thanks for the content and thanks very much for new T1C Axis Elite that came in on Friday!! Fantastic holster!!
That's awesome! Thanks!
Quick, sure…quick, sure; grateful for this content and definitely going to try out this rds target
Great target set up guys, breaks down the building blocks of becoming more efficient with an RDS. I love your appendix holsters as well.
We appreciate it!
Great tips and chunking of drills to improve skills. Thank you!
Happy to help!
Love it guys keep it coming
I have the habit of bringing my head down to the site. Putting on a ball cap helps as a reminder. Great video.
This channel is so good....appreciate it fellas.
you're welcome!!
Starting out with the ACSS Vulcan reticle greatly reduces the learning curve 👍🏻
This video has been my lightbulb moment. Thank you guys so much for bringing all these tips and techniques into one video. I was dipping my head down to find the dot, bringing the gun and dot up to my eye level has fixed a lot of hunting for the dot. Also, having the muzzle aimed a little bit high and lowering the dot to the target has fixed SO MUCH! Thank you guys!!!
Thats awesome, glad it could be of some help!!
Aaron big dawg I’m also cross eye dominant with an astigmatism, it took a while but I practice the same moves with turning my head slightly to the right. Great video
My son sent me this video as soon as Aaron said right handed with left eye dominant. Most people have said CHANGE over to your right eye. I don't have the BUDGET to fix 50 plus years of eye coordination. I will be following your channel.
Thanks so much, man! We appreciate it!
Great information boys....
Finally found what I was looking for ! Left eye dominant and right handed shooting and wasn’t sure if I’m doing it right or wrong
Great video!👍
I’ve taken both the MSP and Sig Sauer instructor level classes, and been able to glean a ton of info from both to instruct my students. Your video reinforces what Scott teaches, upright posture, neutral head position.
On finding the dot, I find using the front sight very time consuming and confusing. What Justin Christopher suggested was, since we are mostly used to riding the front site until the rear comes up, treat the object you are aiming at, through the window, as your front site and as the pistol levels off, the red dot will appear. That resonated with me and helped, immensely.
That's a great tip! You gotta find what works best for you!
Thanks for your time!!
Great video guys. Headed to the range tomorrow with your target and your tips and tricks will be helpful.
Heck yeah! Have fun!
Thanks for sharing, really need to up my game and start running drills with a timer. Just ordered an Agis from you guys super excited!
Awesome! Thank you!
All of my holsters are from you guys, you guys are awesome. Thank you for the free vids and the targets
We appreciate you!!
Great Work! Really easy to follow an understand.
Thank you! Glad it was helpful!
New techniques or not you guys ALWAYS give 🔥🔥🔥 content & continue to practice what you preach! Definite plus that you're both damn good shooter's imo. Axis elite & Ziphos 2 are two favorites tier 1 makes. 🍻💯
Thanks so much!!
Great tips thank you. I'm new to red dots on pistols so any perspective helps
Good drill. Explained well.
This was great info.
Sending this out to shape the algorithm at RUclips
we appreciate it 🙏
Thanks, you gave me some things to work on.
Awesome!
I think for some people finding the right spot on their prescription lenses can cause the head dropping. Some shooters have a “reading” or “sight” line at the top of the lens rather than the bottom, so the tendency to drop the chin is something they trained to do. My close vision is at the bottom, so that actually encourages me to keep my head back. I realize that once you adapt to the red dot, your main vision is on the target and so you don’t need the close up prescription.
Some different approach to red dots. Nice presentation. I just purchased a Legion 226 and also bought a threaded sig barrel and a Delta Point Pro NV. Can't wait till I get my can, it's out of stock now. Good video.
That'll be awesome! Thank you!
Verry informative...
Good drill, thank you for the target.
Our pleasure!
thanks guys
Great video good info
Thank you!
Thanks for the targets. I'll incorporate them into our training along with the Dot Torture. I just got my first red dot for a pistol after having liking it on my rifle.
No problem! Hope they help!
Excellent instruction thx!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just installed my red dot last night. I wish I'd of watched this video first! I'm cross eye dominant myself, so between all the tips, and advice I'm really looking forward to getting back out there, and maybe even hitting the target.
Right on!
It really just comes down to practice, like anything. Do a thousand sliw draws to get your grip and presentation mechanics down, then start to increase speed.
Exactly!
I love your content. It’s really great. Thx u. Call me old school, but I prefer iron sights. Less gaff, less to worry about. I wonder if there have been studies on accuracy of red dot vs. iron sights?
Generally, using a red dot is faster getting off your shot. Another benefit is as the aging process comes into play and nearsightedness gets fuzzy, lining up sites quickly, becomes a challenge. The red dot excels here.
Do you still see double object when using red dot , im new to them i still see double wit both eye open .
Nice red dot site picture you guys. 😎🤘🍻
Thanks 👍
I found that I was hesitating on the front sight when waiting for the red dot to drop in from 12 o'clock so I removed the front sight and for me this works much better. I just could not not see the front sight.
Nice job! Which guns are you all using?
Definitely guilty of sacrificing good grip and vision for speed, which results in poor groups. Seems like a great template to work on this!
I have the MECANIK Optic on my Canik TP9 SA. The rear sight had to be removed. Dot does not co witness. Kinda of difficult finding that dot.
Bros I just realized..... y’all are practically DJ & Cole Doppelgängers 😁
ARE THEY CLONING DEVGRU NOW?!?
shhhhhhh lower your voice ;)
I use a Zen technique, where I practice drawing and shooting with my eyes closed. Start at 2 yards, then 3, 4, 5 etc. In pursuit of safety, I avoid doing this at public ranges…
Dry fire ,dry fire ,dry fire. You can practice everything but recoil management.
WOW.... is this good...
Thank you!
HFB hat.........nice!
Any tips on training out the micro movements when presenting the pistol?
Practice. Lots of reps focusing on efficiency. You'll never be able to hold the gun or dot perfectly still but you can learn to predict its movement very well.
I unfortunately do not live anywhere near Scott & would love to learn his grip method. Is there a closeup video of it?? I guess I missed at what distance are you shooting this target?
Scott runs classes all over the country, he probably will teach one somewhere close to you. Check out his schedule on his website.
Have you guys done a video comparing the SRO to the RMR? Thoughts?
No specifically, most of us prefer the SRO for the bigger window and clearer glass. RMR is still a great option though
I'm about to buy my first pistol. If it makes any difference, I'm looking at the M&P 2.0 9mm compact that is optics ready with suppressor hight iron sights. I don't want to be one of those "tactical geeks" but I am thinking I should equip the pistol as I will shoot it. I'm also an older dude in my middle 60s that wears glasses for near vision. Does it make sense to go straight to red dots?
I don't think it would hurt! It's up to you though.
Great video again!!! What distance you using?
5 yards 👍🏼👍🏼
@@aaronsizzle1 Awesome, thanks and stay safe.
Do you think you will have products incoporating the TLR-7 soon?
depends on the gun model... we already make a ton of TLR-7 holsters
Good info, which one of you do I need to yell at for you to come out with a modlite compatible holster that isn't just for glock? 😉
Have you seen the Tier 1 msp (modern samurai project) holster? The retention is based off the light and will fit multiple handguns. They have one for modlite.
@@frostoutdoors6249 thanks i always bought the agis holsters in the past I didn't think to check the MSP holster hopefully it fits my gun
Everytime I shoot I work on not moving my head around
What coats that big guy wearing?
Arc’teryx LEAF Atom LT hoodie 👍🏼
@@aaronsizzle1 thank you 🙏
What size dots are you guys using and what do you guys recommend?
Depends on your eyesight and preferences really. A lot of us like the 1moa or 2.5moa dots
Great vid. Do you guys use more a target focus or sight focus when practicing these technics? TY
Red dot: target focus
Irons: front sight-post focus
@@NextScamdemic TY
@@johannwiese8899 I believe that’s a main advantage of using a dot. I’m just getting into it myself
were do u hold the dot in sight
center of window
whats should the distance from the target be?
It's up to you! 5-7 yards is usually a good range to start with
I tried to go to your website to print some of the practice targets and was not able to find it
Sorry about that! Check this link www.tier1concealed.com/pages/three-sevens-drill
@@Tier1Concealed Got the m Thanks!
At 2:10 what is your heart rate?
Where can I find those bad ass military color sunglasses you have?
the ones with the FDE frames are the Heatwave Visual Future Techs
@@Tier1Concealed and they have a bad ass name too!!? Shit lol. Thank you
in the window were is the dot center
typically in the center
How do you keep the red dot from jumping around like a bee? In other words, how do you steady the red dot once it’s on target?
there will always be movement there, nobody can hold it perfectly still. its about predictability and eliminating MOST of the movement
@@Tier1Concealed thank you!
We call it " wobble area" took me years to accept the " wobble area" . As the gentleman said above it will never be totally still. Your trigger control plays the major role in reducing " wobble area"
Dry Firing has always helped me master my trigger.
Great question!
💯👌💪👏👏
What kind of holster you are using?
Was this taken in Utah?
possibly!
@@Tier1Concealed I see now you are out of Ogden. Love to support local businesses - especially when you have a great product.
I think this is a good drill over all, red dot or not....
thank you!!
Aaron and his love child Sawyer
hahaha shhh don't tell anyone
I noticed you had a failure. You never explained what happened.
I think it was just a failure to feed all the way into the chamber
No DOT $$$ Green Laser :)
Dry fire Dry fire Dry Dry fire fire Dry fire fire fire Dry fire Dry fire Dry fire and then do that with irons and make a decision.