Masters Karting Paris Bercy 1993 EuroSport broadcast
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The EuroSport TV channel broadcast from the first edition of the Elf Masters Karting Race at the Palais Omnisport in Paris-Bercy on 18-19 December 1993.
01:01 Drivers Elf Qualification Race
16:47 F1 Grand Prix drivers Qualification Session
25:07 Johnny Herbert's crash
27:00 F1 Grand Prix drivers Qualification Session summary (Olivier Panis on 2 wheels etc.)
28:18 Young Kart Drivers Race
36:33 Young Kart Drivers Race Incident
42:30 Young Kart Drivers Race summary
43:30 Relay Grand Prix F1 Race (60 laps race with a driver change every 15 minutes)
44:48 Teams presentation (3 drivers each)
47:36 Ayrton Senna interview
49:58 Alain Prost interview
53:19 Relay Race start
1:01:05 Driver changes
1:09:09 Alain Prost ready to go
1:09:50 Ayrton Senna ready to go
1:11:55 Alain Prost starts
1:12:28 Andrea de Cesaris starts
1:11:55 Alain Prost starts
1:15:00 15 laps to go
1:15:54 Ayrton Senna retires
1:17:20 Alain Prost chasing Andrea de Cesaris for the lead
1:17:55 Alain Prost takes the lead after Andrea de Cesaris retire
1:21:19 Final laps, Alain Prost Team wins the Relay Race
1:22:43 Relay Race results
That was the final competitive head-to-head between Formula 1 giants Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna. Predictably, the pair took it very seriously: four-time world champion Prost having tested extensively before the event; Senna, a three-time title holder, having a kart shipped to Brazil so that he could practise.
The format for the two-day event organised by French racer Philippe Streiff, wheelchair-bound since a pre-season F1 testing accident in Brazil in 1989, pitted over 60 drivers - more than a dozen of them contemporary grand prix racers - against each other around a 600-metre indoor circuit.
Young karting stars, including Danilo Rossi, Nicola Gianniberti, Miku Santavirta and Sebastien Enjolras, strutted their stuff on the first day, with Rossi coming out on top in their final.
Following two qualifying sessions, teams were made up of three drivers (one F1 star from each of the two sessions and one karting youngster).
Senna and Prost joined by Philippe Alliot, Paul Belmondo, Eric Bernard, Andrea de Cesaris, Yannick Dalmas, Betrand Gachot, Jean-Marc Gounon, Olivier Grouillard, Damon Hill, Johnny Herbert, Pierluigi Martini and Olivier Panis.
In the first relay, the Prost and Senna squads both hit trouble with their 100cc karts, leaving the team led by Minardi ace Martini to win.
The final promised one last hurrah for Prost and Senna. Sadly for fans, Ayrton’s kart broke as he was reeling in erstwhile leader de Cesaris. The Italian soon fell behind Prost, leaving the world champion to uphold local honour.
Senna, who twice finished runner-up in the world karting championship, later gave a group of journalists a few tips on how to master karting:
“You have to drive sideways because go-karts are small, short-wheelbased and very quick to react. You are always sideways at some stage of the corner so that you can position yourself better to get a feel for the grip. In that respect it’s very different from a racing car."
“In a racing car, if you try to lean on it you just slide and go off. In a kart you have to be hard and aggressive, but also precise. You use your body a little bit and normally your back suffers from the seat, especially if you haven’t been in one for some time.”
© EuroSport TV channel
This so needs to happen today. It'd be a hell of an off season treat.
plus it would finallly give us all that close racing we want
Nah, the tree huggers wouldn’t like the smoke. 🏎
princess Lewis wouldn't be interested in this.
sHE's busy dressing like a clown and hash tagging being blessed
Another issue is, there’s hardly any off-season these days…
I've been saying this for a while. The sprint race needs to be in a spec car allowing us to see individual driver talent.
39:05 Sebastien Enjolras with a blistering time of 28.865. He sadly lost his young life at Le Mans during practise just a few years later in 1997. Most people will have their sights on Senna and Prost, understandably, but seeing his name and picture pop up is a bittersweet moment for me as well.
i didnt know of him but its always sad when racers of the past lost their lives to events they likely would have survived in a modern car ..its the same as losing a loved one too soon , its not so much the death, as we all die some day .. rather its the feeling of never knowing what they could have offered the world, wether its a joke or a race win .. its just sad cuz we will never know ..
Indeed! A particularly nasty accident by all accounts. The last death at le mans until Allan Simonsen tragic accident a few years ago.
I remember watching this on Eurosport back then.... I will never forget how relaxed Ayrton looked in his kart. Absolutely amazing
Awesome event!
With 2 of the biggest legend of this sport!
I want to see this with Verstappen Alonso Hamilton etc…
they can ALL drive like this. They all started here and had to be the absolute best if they were to have a chance in F1
this won't begin begging . ah ha ah . blow me .
Classic Prost. Sit back and wait for errors or breakdowns while taking care of his own machinery. The Professor!
Prost made a mistake when trying to get past Senna and went backwards, he wasn't sitting back and biding his time. Our preconceptions can cloud what is actually happening.
@@jameswilson461 More impressive was de Cesaris holding off Senna. No preconceptions about de Cesaris there. Although we all know what the outcome would have been had Senna's kart not broken down. He would have rammed de Cesaris off the road or thrown it up the inside without any room. 1992 Australian GP was a joke. Senna unable to get past Mansell, so what does he do? Drives right into the back of Mansell and takes them both out. Typical Senna. Can't win so his solution ... complete carnage.
@@thepsychologist8159 Mansell done the same to Senna in 1989 Portuguese GP after he was black flagged. Went for an overtake and took him off the track.
@@jameswilson461 "Mansell done the same to Senna"
- Not even remotely the same.
"Went for an overtake and took him off the track"
- Let's read that again "went for an overtake".
- Unlike Senna at the Aus GP in 1992 when he deliberately ran up the back of Mansell without even attempting an overtake.
@@thepsychologist8159 Went for an overtake after ignoring a black flag for two laps. Also if you watch that incident again in 1992 Mansell braked unusually early (it seems) for that corner. Strange incident.
Le Professor Prost, smooth and patient using mechanical harmony for durability needed in such highly strung little machines.
To think that Ayrton only had a few more months to live.....
@@willywonka-nw2pz would be nice to have some sort of warning though ^^ Like a sms or e-mail. "You are now entering your last two weeks of existence. Enjoy!"
@@willywonka-nw2pz What a foolish way to answer...
@@willywonka-nw2pz At least I know what good manners mean and I don't make sarcasm in wrong occasions.
@@willywonka-nw2pz sempre um bostileiro, é incrível, o mundo todo tem um apreço incrível pelo Senna, mas no país dele, macac0landia é o único lugar onde tem animais como vc que não respeitam a história dele, com esse papo de viuva
@@willywonka-nw2pz mak4k0, terceiro mundista
I REALLY need to thank the uploader for this video. Seeing Senna, Prost and so many others running the vehicles where they got their start is a real treat all these years later! Growing up in the US, the only time we EVER saw any of these drivers race was once they got to F1. We couldn't follow their whole careers the same way most European and South American fans could so to get this content gives us a new fresh look at the origins of the greats of a bygone era. Thank you again!
Beautiful. How different style senna and prost. Prost is smooth and economical. Senna is aggressive and looks for the limit of grip in every corner. Herbert at maximum risk.
yes i think prost would have done welll in modern cars, but i think Sennas grip horny style is a "true" race driver style .. smooth like modern/ prost is just a by-product of tires/certain cars .. Sennas style that purely seeks grip is what all race drivers deeply wish for .. an ability/skill/talent to find the grip in every corner.. sure kills tires like i mentioned , but you learn the track faster you learn your car faster, your pure pace is higher.. i personally think if FIA did not mandate that tires degrade sooooooo fast they lose pace after 15 laps, then i think Sennas style would be the prominent one rather than "smooth"
@@THEREALTICKLEMYELMO Prost would be a master in today's cars, managing the car and the tires to extract maximum overall performance over the course of a race.
*Une époque magnifique où Senna et Prost avait le coeur en paix et était devenu très ami*
Good times when television was actually really cool!
What a treat to see this! Can't believe only 7k views!
Seven months later and it now has 207k views!
Thank you so much for uploading. I had always seen partial clips of this event since I was a kid.
The Clio Wiiams as pace car :) i LOVE IT !
21:28 Panis cornering on 2 wheels is pretty impressive.
I'm sure it's also quite slow.
Thanks for the upload :) it's nice quality, too.
Thanks for upload 🙏
I am German and yes Schumacher was my Favorit driver but Senna … are Senna
16:00 time for show
17:00 what a lineup!!
Watched this with my dad on eurosport back in the day
Current Formula 1 grid has three world champions, so it would be amazing to see such an event coming back. Seb, Jenson, Nigel, Alain, Kimi would bring amazing competition as well. Probably Jackie Stewart, Andretti, Nelson Piequet are too old to do it now but who knows.
but Seb would need to run his kart on sustainable fuel. :)
he competed in the ROC(race of champions) after retirement and he drove petrol/ethanol based vehicles there. I think he would make exception for Karting. @@TheColinChapman
Senna... such a genius... only the kart running problem othewise no ones can overtake Senna... Legend best driver all the time
j'y était , j"ai encore quelques photos de cette soirée ! notamment de A. Prost & A. Senna
Ça devait être quelque chose….
J’avais 11 ans et je me rappelle l’avoir vu devant ma TV.
The red vest that Prost was taking off was to stop his ribs from breaking. Karting is notorious for breaking ribs in the corners when i raced it was a mandatory piece of equipment.
Yes, when I raced pro-karts at my local outdoor circuit I used to come back with bruises on my ribs and inside of my knees. Learnt the hard way to brace my legs on the frame when going round corners.
will always be a prost fan....lovely to see him on the limit
What a great event, imagine how good that would be. Every top driver in equal karts should be compulsory end of season, they need to organise this.
Max and Hamilton, my bet would be Alonso. Just thinking about it I realise we are missing out.
Max was Karting world champion, Hamilton was 13th. What's amazing is drivers like Max and Kimi only had about a year in cars before F1
The smart money would be on Yuki
The weight of a driver matters more in Karts than anything else honestly
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 yes of course, but all would be equal on a weight just as f1
Tout ce temps pour que ces 2 champions retrouvent leur calme.
Schumacher qui poussait derrière a un peu aidé.
Cela dit , ici on voit que Prost , c'est un robot. Un mec fatigant.
Senna a fini par reconnaitre qu'il était beaucoup plus dur à battre qu'il l'imaginait.
J'avais un copain qui allait sur quelques grand prix (France , Belgique , parfois Monaco).
Je lui disais "Prost ?".
Il répondait "Tu le regardes et l'écoutes , t'as l'impression qu'il se traine. Tu regardes les chronos et là c'est pas pareil. Il m'énerve !"
Shocking reliability.
I used to race 2-strokes back then and whilst there were breakdowns, they were nowhere near as common as seen in this event.
That's with works IAME support in evidence at Bercy too.
Great racing. Karting is basically where the journey starts to start building those skills.
AMAZING💟REMEMBER 1993. TODAY NOVEMBER 2023!
プロストだけ動きが違う。全く無駄な動きがない。こりゃ凄い。
Panis deixa ele passar em 1:15:38 , além do que é muito mais leve que a maioria, se não tiver lastro em cada kart, é injusto, até na brincadeira ele tem suas vantagens.
バラストがあってもプロストが速いと思いますよ。的確適切なドライブで非の打ち所がありません。
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Я тоже это смотрел в живую. И если бы не подвел карт Сенны он их всех бы натянул. Великий и не повторимый. Волшебник и человек дождя. Помню тебя 😢😢 тебя.😢
For those who said that AP wasn’t as quick…
He was always very quick, but after be teammate with Senna, everyone just remember Senna 1.x sec faster than him in qualification.
Fantastic! Thank you for sharing
Senna.
Class act.
The exhaust fumes in that place, I can't imagine the headache after.
Yep I was thinking the same thing. I used to go karting at the Three Sisters outdoor circuit and the worst part was queuing up in the pit line breathing in all the fumes from the karts in front. Couldn't wait to get on track. God knows what it would be like in an enclosed building. Hopefully they had extraction fans.
No worries, all organic, locally sourced castor oil. Safe and smells good.
@@yanfik4257 Good to know!
17:04 and 26:16 ... So, on identical karts, who qualifies first? Prost... And in 1984 on the Mercedes 190E race, who qualified on pole in identical Mercedes cars, over Senna, Lauda, Rosberg, and many other F1 greats? Alain Prost again. So much for the myth of Prost being "slow", the guy had perfect driving technique, which happens to look "slow" and unimpressive.
Prost was fast and... Senna faster than Prost.
@@camino2457 Over one lap, certainly. Over a race distance, Prost often had the edge.
Oh my god it's been 30 fucking years can you let it go already?
Quem venceu a corrida de mercedes? E esses karts tinham lastro? Ou Prost com uns 20 kilos a menos levou vantagem, e o idiota do Panis deixa ele passar em 1:15:38, já na primeira corrida que Prost venceu na formula 1 foi fake no gp da França em 81, pois na relargada trocou os pneus e modificou a pressão do turbo, proibido na época, Prost sendo Prost.
Quem venceu a corrida de mercedes? E esses karts tinham lastro? Ou Prost com uns 20 kilos a menos levou vantagem, e o idiota do Panis deixa ele passar em 1:15:38, já na primeira corrida que Prost venceu na formula 1 foi fake no gp da França em 81, pois na relargada trocou os pneus e modificou a pressão do turbo, proibido na época, Prost sendo Prost.
Senna enters at 1:12:53
Prost the best of the lot
Only 6 months before Senna died. Was such a great driver.
WIthout breakdowns I think the order would have likely been Herbert, Senna, Prost judging by quali times and racing positions before breakdowns. Prost totally lucked into that result
This was a highlight of my childhood 😂
Max vs Lewis vs Alonso in Karting 2024. Make it happen.
懐かしいですね。
Some event like this once a year with the drivers driving in teams with the F2 and maybe the Indycar, FE or WEC guys would be a treat
Race of champions has this every year.
Senna the best driver.
Let's bring this back and ditch the ridiculous Formula E cars and all related EV crap.
So cool
This must have been the very early days of Ben Edwards commentating career.
The racing how it should always be : braking, steering, accelerating...
Do you ever need more than that?
No wonder Ayrton did it.
11:40 Funny, my name is Sébastien Philippe, like the mentioned driver, future star of Japan GT then.
I remember watching this live and many times since. I'm still so disappointed when Senna flips a chain!!
did ayrton run into prost? that' s what he liked to do..
For Senna only one competitor should NOT be beating him especially in France …
Pour Senna, un competiteur particulier ne doit PAS le depasser devant des spectateurs Français …
Formula One drivers should have this event at present
当時セナがリタイアする映像は見たな〜
全て見れる時代が来るなんて嬉しい限りです。
やっぱりプロストはプロストのままだったｗ
Before race of champions 😊
21:35 wow
1993
Que casualidad q el coche de Senna fuera el unico q gripa de los grandes
clio williams, what a classic
@48:41 SMOKING!! 😁
In a room full of 2-stroke smoke no less.
Amaing line up! Can't imagine it ever happening with the current mob....
Senna the best.
Out when was ahead of Prost.
Do we still have the race of champions?
They were also racing real karts. No electric karts!
פרוסט היה אז הגדול מכולם
47:47 la chemise!
Was this Prost's final race, of any kind?
1:12:40 , we can see for some minutes, Prost was faster than Senna, as in most of the races they competed together in F1... ( you can look at their best laps to check it, also you can see every race to check it, as I did...)
Nonsense. You can only really compare them in the 2 years they were teammates and during that period Senna obliterated Prost most of the time. A random event like this isn't much of a measure of anything, especially considering Senna had far less knowledge of the track and almost no practice, compared to Prost and others.
@@hristoitchov yes, Prost scored more points than Senna in 88 and 89, so Prost was better. In adition, Prost was better in inferior car, since everybody knew how Senna had 20 engineers around him while Prost had just one engineer on many occasions or maximun 4 engineers in Mclaren. Senna had the best equipment, and Prost beated him. Unique occasion that prost had the Honda engine as he wanted, was France 88. And Prost destroyed Senna on that occasion. Prost, better than Senna, but well, Schumacher was better than Prost and of course than Senna.
@@maikcolinnait4641 Judging who's faster or better on points alone doesn't get you far. Both in qualifying and races Senna was quicker than Prost most of the time, often by huge margins. Prost rarely had inferior cars and most of his success is in the best car on the grid. Senna on the other hand only had the best car while he was teammate with Prost. He beat him in 88 and was the deserving champion in 89 if it wasn't for Balestre's interference.
I don't care for all that bs about the Honda engine, as there is exactly zero proof that Prost was ever sabotaged. They even started assigning random choice of engines for both drivers after Prost complained publicly and Senna still continued to be better than Prost in most of the remaining races.
@@hristoitchov I respect your opinion, opinions are welcome. Prost was better than Senna. Points are the tool to compare the best, and Prost of course was the best of both. Even in inferior car. Senna only was succesfull with the super Honda engine, without it , Senna would have been nothing. In the 70´s, Prost would have destroyed Senna, absolutely. Senna was destroyed also by Schumacher, with inferior engine in 92 and 94, and with the same engine half of the season 93, where Schumacher was a total nightmare for Senna. Senna was crazy about Schumacher, and in 1995, Schumacher would have hummilliated Senna in an absolutely brutal way, as Senna was humilliated by schumacher in Barcelona 92 in the rain, and in many other occasions.
@@maikcolinnait4641You keep calling him better without actually presenting any evidence whatsoever. If he was better, how come during their time together Senna was almost always in front of him in qualifying and had more poles, sometimes by huge margins, how come Senna was almost always ahead of him in most races and won more races than him, how come Senna led more laps than him, etc. etc.? The statistics don't lie. Prost was great, one of the greatest, but Senna was above him.
Saying Senna was only good because of Honda is ridiculous. He was brilliant regardless of what car he drove, before or during F1. He always had the upper hand on his teammates and he won races in the 2nd 3rd, even 4th fastest car on the grid.
Schumacher had the better Ford engine for most of 93 and the better car overall in 92. Senna would've easily disposed of him in 94 had he survived, considering even Hill was a title contender. His 3 poles before his death were miraculous, considering how problematic that car was. Just compare how far off Hill was in qualifying and races in those starts. Benetton was obviously better, not to mention they likely used illegal software and had illegal refueling system.
You can cherry pick episodic moments where Senna wasn't at his best or had issues all you want, but ignoring the rest 99% of his career proves how biased your judgment is.
No es casualidad que el coche de Senna rompa antes que el de Prost. Conducciones distintas.
Where is Schumacher ? Karts absolute master
They were afraid to invite Michael Schumacher to this event because they knew what was going to happen to Prost and Senna.
Too bad Lake Speed was not there.
It's not so long ago that Max was driving carts, so he'd probably obliterate the field.
Fortunately for everyone else Schumacher was not invited....
a pinch . . no family fought ? thought for goin on 9 years plus inside a non-cribe notes style pamplete ,, guestion & answer . go figure what brought me , mysel & i a look see , a tar baby , & the doctor , the postman [same (job] tattletale] . . . ? every picture tells O` king sole was a merry O` sole & a merry O` soul was He . something wrong here around bewitched by HIS WIFI ah ha ah .
Even there, in France, with french sponsor, Who is the winner after tecnicals falures of all the karts that were faster than him? Alain Prost of course, for The race, franch maFIA is always the Best.
Thank you, good old days
I don't watch the F1, since that era, i was 14 years old....So boring today....Pathetic....I watched Rallye, until 2013....now, i don't watch any motorsport anymore! Too BORING😢
45:11 Of course, Belmondo has to be last. He can't help it. ^^
There was this joke about him, that says that the first place on a grid is a...pole position. And the last place is called a Paul Belmondo. Hilarious -.-' ^^