Here’s an update. I had a look at the powder in the bottle, some of it is kind of clumpy and it’s sticking to anything plastic pretty hard. Looks like it’s drawn moisture somehow, and seems to have static built up. I’m positive I caused this somehow. How? Not a clue. I’m not that worried about it. We have plenty of other powders that will do the same job.
Its been so humid here that I don't even think about reloading until the weather changes.But I think it might be bad from the factory.Did it sit in a Powder measure for any length of time?
Humidity is a powder killer. I disassembled a pile of old 30-06 cartridges(Ball ammo). Saved Bullets for plinking and dry powder. The powder(Preserved in a glass jar) reacted and rusted everything the gases touched. Better just get rid of it.Always nice to lite a pile outdoors.
My guess is you aren't getting a tight gas seal with those hard cards. Second guess is the burn rate of the powder is too slow for that light slug (I have no experience with THAT powder though)
Wst is a fast powder similar to red dot. The AA hulls had a plastic wad over the powder then nitro cards under the slug. I looked at the powder in the bottle and it’s definitely drawn moisture somehow. I don’t know I I could have caused that though.
@@theshotgunscientists If you get the same results loading a 1 oz birdshot load with a regular field wad, yeah definitely the powder. If the powder has an acidic smell, that is a sign it is bad too.
Great video guys! Im soo glad to see you post up the bad results instead of never showing it like most youtubers would do.. shyt happens and thats how we all learn. I like the ideas already posted of using silica packets. Maybe try several small amounts , like 4 or 5 batches? Just to see if it can be reclaimed/saved. And check em with burn test, one a week Maybe.. if the burn rates get better Maybe try loading up some more? If not toss it. I Really enjoyed this one Tyler.. keep on keeping em real man..
Hey boys, that sucks that you gotta a bad bottle of powder. I have a vidio request for you though, could you please do a range and reloading of some 2-1/2 inch black powder magnum 000 buckshot loadings using Cbc(Magtech) brass hulls? Thanks.
Thats actually very helpful for that to happen on video where you can analize it and share the info.That could worry a new reloader or cause someone to stop loading for awhile. Nice👍 The newbie I had in mind.........Me
@Willyk51 he got it right humidity is a killer of powder! I save all those little moisture packets you get with certain shipments. Whenever I open a can of powder I leave one inside it, I keep the humidity as low as I possibly can in my reloading room, and my gun safe. I also keep 90% of my rounds and steal military cans with five or six of those packets and I’ve shot rounds loaded eight years ago with no issues. I had a clumpy batch like yours one time put a couple of those packets in it, used it for just, cheap target ammo for a 223, after I let the packets dry it out a bit the performance came up! But it did leave a mess in the firing chamber and barrel not unburnt Powder, but a ton of carbon
it definitely helps for storage and definitely keeps your powder fresher longer. If you keep one of those little packets inside the can. I only have to do that with a few rounds that I load usually, I go through anywhere from 4 to 8 pounds when I sit down to load. I always try to load a minimum of 1000 at a time, I figure if I’m going to spend a day at the press I might as well get as much done as possible. That’s why I use the ammo cans and rotate them according to date. You also might want to look into what my buddy is doing here in Ohio, he has a patent on 1 inch - 1.5 inch shot and slugs! It requires a piece from a 3-D printer to be fed by pump Action or semi automatic, it keeps the shell level.
@@theshotgunscientists turns your eight shell pump/semi auto into 16 or 17 shots if you can ghost load your gun you get one extra round, sat on the ramp! Extremely clever idea took him a year and a half to figure out
Wrong powder??? Made the mistake of loading a slow burning powder Imr 7828 in my 44 mag. Thank God, it wasn’t in reverse and I loaded too fast of a powder. Did the same as what yours did super slow velocities, kicking out un burnt powder all over, and not burning. I learned to keep only one powder on top of my bench after that fiasco.
Hello fellers!! i wouldn't be so sure that it's your fault Tyler... If you just cracked that bottle open then I would suspect that it arrived that way. You may hear from some other loaders that had the same problem with that batch of powder. If we ever get some sun again this summer I would try drying it out and retest. just for poops and laughter!
A tried to message, you and rumble couldn't figure it out. So you know, 57 years old? I had a connection anyway, live in 640 square feet. What was the minimum or maximum size? Pick up that she used for home defense for not over to penetrating.
My unburnt powder that sprinkled out on the bench “of the wrong powder “ was yellowish brown too that kicked out. I would assume they either put the wrong powder in yout jug or its defective.
@@theshotgunscientists I called the manufacturer and see if they’ll replace the jug. I’m sure you’re probably not the only one that had an issue with that batch.
I think so yeah. I just posted a comment about the powder being kind of clumpy in the bottle. I don’t remember any way I could have caused that. My best theory is maybe I left the lid off when it was on my bar and it drew moisture because it was near the sink but I’m not that dumb lol.
Dump it all , it is possible to blow up a shotgun , it partially burns then a pressure spike with more burning with a slug or obstacle in the barrel and a kaboom. I have had powder stored for 25 years that is perfect but we have 12 to 38% humidity normally here.
Nah pressure for the AA’s was listed at almost 10,000 psi. I had the exact components for the load just swapped 7/8 ounces out for a slug of the same weight and ditched the filler.
Powder smells fine and these were primed with the same primers we had been using all day. The fiocchis were right out of the bag new primed. Check the pinned comment I left.
Here’s an update. I had a look at the powder in the bottle, some of it is kind of clumpy and it’s sticking to anything plastic pretty hard. Looks like it’s drawn moisture somehow, and seems to have static built up. I’m positive I caused this somehow. How? Not a clue. I’m not that worried about it. We have plenty of other powders that will do the same job.
Its been so humid here that I don't even think about reloading until the weather changes.But I think it might be bad from the factory.Did it sit in a Powder measure for any length of time?
@@marksarkaquariums9056Ive done that. 👍
Dry it out is worth a shot but no sunlight exposure
The only bottle I ever had go bad turned acidic and corroded the metal lid off.
@@Walter-wo5sz I had IMR metal ca
Humidity is a powder killer. I disassembled a pile of old 30-06 cartridges(Ball ammo). Saved Bullets for plinking and dry powder. The powder(Preserved in a glass jar) reacted and rusted everything the gases touched. Better just get rid of it.Always nice to lite a pile outdoors.
Oh for sure lol if you missed it watch the video we did called mixing and burning all of our powders it was impressive.
As a new reloader its good to see what may happen with a bad bottle of powder. Thanks guys
I’m sure I caused this somehow
Ha! I was thinking the exact same thing. This is a great lesson for us all. Better learned together than alone and trying to figure it out
lol, that was actually an interesting video! Thank you for posting that one to show there can be a bad batch of powder!
Glad you liked it
I only had one reload where it pooped instead of banged. It made it out the barrel luckily
That’s happened to us quite a few times
My guess is you aren't getting a tight gas seal with those hard cards. Second guess is the burn rate of the powder is too slow for that light slug (I have no experience with THAT powder though)
Wst is a fast powder similar to red dot. The AA hulls had a plastic wad over the powder then nitro cards under the slug. I looked at the powder in the bottle and it’s definitely drawn moisture somehow. I don’t know I I could have caused that though.
@@theshotgunscientists If you get the same results loading a 1 oz birdshot load with a regular field wad, yeah definitely the powder. If the powder has an acidic smell, that is a sign it is bad too.
@@taofledermaus smells fine just a little clumpy lol. I’m just gonna toss it to be honest. I’ll just keep using red dot for stuff like this.
@@theshotgunscientists Don't trash it until you test it on something else!
@@taofledermaus good idea
Great video guys! Im soo glad to see you post up the bad results instead of never showing it like most youtubers would do.. shyt happens and thats how we all learn. I like the ideas already posted of using silica packets. Maybe try several small amounts , like 4 or 5 batches? Just to see if it can be reclaimed/saved. And check em with burn test, one a week Maybe.. if the burn rates get better Maybe try loading up some more? If not toss it. I Really enjoyed this one Tyler.. keep on keeping em real man..
We’ll try it man can’t hurt
I had the same problems, found that most time, there is bits of plastic from shell obstructing primer flash hole. But you had some crappy powder.
Yep it’s drawn moisture somehow
You should see if sticking it in an air tight container with silica packets helps it at all.
I might do that but I wouldn’t expect it to help
Hey boys, that sucks that you gotta a bad bottle of powder. I have a vidio request for you though, could you please do a range and reloading of some 2-1/2 inch black powder magnum 000 buckshot loadings using Cbc(Magtech) brass hulls? Thanks.
That sounds like it could be fun
Thats actually very helpful for that to happen on video where you can analize it and share the info.That could worry a new reloader or cause someone to stop loading for awhile. Nice👍 The newbie I had in mind.........Me
Glad it was helpful
@Willyk51 he got it right humidity is a killer of powder! I save all those little moisture packets you get with certain shipments. Whenever I open a can of powder I leave one inside it, I keep the humidity as low as I possibly can in my reloading room, and my gun safe. I also keep 90% of my rounds and steal military cans with five or six of those packets and I’ve shot rounds loaded eight years ago with no issues. I had a clumpy batch like yours one time put a couple of those packets in it, used it for just, cheap target ammo for a 223, after I let the packets dry it out a bit the performance came up! But it did leave a mess in the firing chamber and barrel not unburnt Powder, but a ton of carbon
Thanks for the info man I might try that
it definitely helps for storage and definitely keeps your powder fresher longer. If you keep one of those little packets inside the can. I only have to do that with a few rounds that I load usually, I go through anywhere from 4 to 8 pounds when I sit down to load. I always try to load a minimum of 1000 at a time, I figure if I’m going to spend a day at the press I might as well get as much done as possible. That’s why I use the ammo cans and rotate them according to date. You also might want to look into what my buddy is doing here in Ohio, he has a patent on 1 inch - 1.5 inch shot and slugs! It requires a piece from a 3-D printer to be fed by pump Action or semi automatic, it keeps the shell level.
@@jimiandersonblackknight7554 interesting
@@theshotgunscientists turns your eight shell pump/semi auto into 16 or 17 shots if you can ghost load your gun you get one extra round, sat on the ramp! Extremely clever idea took him a year and a half to figure out
Never had powder go bad and I have surplus 4831 in a cylinder shaped cardboard container @1960’s and my basement is damp but humidifier helps.
I’m a believer in old stuff is just made better
That sucks man.
Sure does
I’d be calling Hodgdon
@@cameronlamb7274 eh I’m sure it was a fluke. Just not gonna use it anymore. Maybe pour it on our garden.
@@theshotgunscientists thats nearly $70 in the great white north
Man I’m sorry to hear that
@@theshotgunscientists yeah we been hurting hopefully soon we can get some steady shipments. Till prices go down .410 it is.
Wrong powder??? Made the mistake of loading a slow burning powder Imr 7828 in my 44 mag. Thank God, it wasn’t in reverse and I loaded too fast of a powder. Did the same as what yours did super slow velocities, kicking out un burnt powder all over, and not burning. I learned to keep only one powder on top of my bench after that fiasco.
Not the wrong powder. Wst is a green ball powder which is what was in those.
Hello fellers!! i wouldn't be so sure that it's your fault Tyler... If you just cracked that bottle open then I would suspect that it arrived that way. You may hear from some other loaders that had the same problem with that batch of powder. If we ever get some sun again this summer I would try drying it out and retest. just for poops and laughter!
Might have to give that a try
I had some powder go bad in a 300 mag. I was lucky and caught it before firing any rounds. It clumped and corroded everything it was touching
The primers from these were rusted on top. Definitely damp powder.
A tried to message, you and rumble couldn't figure it out. So you know, 57 years old? I had a connection anyway, live in 640 square feet. What was the minimum or maximum size? Pick up that she used for home defense for not over to penetrating.
@@irmuggle I’d just use lead BB’s or a #4 turkey load
My unburnt powder that sprinkled out on the bench “of the wrong powder “ was yellowish brown too that kicked out. I would assume they either put the wrong powder in yout jug or its defective.
Wst is green that was the correct powder
@@theshotgunscientists I called the manufacturer and see if they’ll replace the jug. I’m sure you’re probably not the only one that had an issue with that batch.
@tripplebeards3427 I might but I just don’t plan on using it anymore. Might become garden enhancement lol.
Interesting
Definitely lol
you just invented a 12ga air gun !
Sorta lol
Thats goofy, unfortunate but makes a good video!
True lol
Save it for cowboy loads...😅
Maybe lol
It ok
Thanks
awesome job
Thanks.
the powder was so wet it ruined the primers?
I think so yeah. I just posted a comment about the powder being kind of clumpy in the bottle. I don’t remember any way I could have caused that. My best theory is maybe I left the lid off when it was on my bar and it drew moisture because it was near the sink but I’m not that dumb lol.
Does anyone saw the animal running at left side of the target?
@@wildcatsurvival yeah we mentioned that in the video
Dump it all , it is possible to blow up a shotgun , it partially burns then a pressure spike with more burning with a slug or obstacle in the barrel and a kaboom. I have had powder stored for 25 years that is perfect but we have 12 to 38% humidity normally here.
That is a possibility
maybe not enough pressure
Nah pressure for the AA’s was listed at almost 10,000 psi. I had the exact components for the load just swapped 7/8 ounces out for a slug of the same weight and ditched the filler.
Chrck.your primers ( color) usually powder smells funny if bad
Powder smells fine and these were primed with the same primers we had been using all day. The fiocchis were right out of the bag new primed. Check the pinned comment I left.
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Seems like damp powder?
It’s definitely drawn moisture yeah I just looked.
How expensive is a bottle of powder?
About 40
Get a bulk pack of those dessicant packs and put one in every bottle of powder you own. Thank me later!
@@veteranironoutdoors8320 good idea man
Don't think that will help. Once the chemical alteration has happened, it can't be reversed.
bad primers.
Primers are fine we used the same pack for other shells that day