Hassan and Hussain are like twins. If Hussein were in Hassan's place he would make a similar treaty with Muawiyah.. and this is why Hussein respected the peace treaty even after Hassan's death. If Hassan were in Hussein's place, he would similarly oppose the forced allegiance to Yazid.. and this is why Hassan's children accompanied hussein to karbala.. Study the change in circumstances to understand the actions of the twins. They were both applying the prophet's teachings perfectly. The same prophet who made a peace treaty at Hudaibiyah came back with an army when the treaty was broken by his enemies. If you wish to know why the courageous Hassan declared peace and why the wise Hussein declared rebellion against the tyrant.. just study the circumstances! The prophet s.a.w said in a well known saying.. "Hassan and hussein are leaders of the youth of paradise" (sahih)
Very well put. You can oppose actively or passively a tyrant. You can practise patience if circumstances arise. Both Imam Hassan AS and Imam Hussain AS showed us the way.
Purely for the fact that people who claimed to be Muslim massacred the prophets saw family as. No matter sunni or Shia that’s enough to change perspective on Yazid and Muawiyah. Mufti’s anthropological analysis of Karbala shows the importance and reality of mourning. In my opinion all Muslims should take part in this even if it is romanticised as it provides perspective on the oppression Muslims have faced.
@@noumanqureshi8489 no circumstance justifies the murder of the ahl al bayat. These are excuses shaitan whispers in your ears to misguide you. you throw stones at shaitan on hajj don't you? I don't think they should curse Sahaba but they should do something symbolically to remember that they are traitors and represent attributes traitors have. Beating the chest is a great remembrance. Nothing wrong with it. Drawing blood from yourself and all that violent stuff on the other hand is wrong.
@@gravewalker_0125 u don't know what you're talking about. He was good guy & friends with hazrat prophet & hazrat ali. All the sahabas & ahl bayt were good friends amongst themselves & loved & looked after each other
rather you are an idiot or does not know about the truth or real history,,, everything this guy spitting,, 90% of those are self fabricated,, like they all did in the past,, when they owned everything even forced the historians to write fouls hadiths and discribe them as good as posible..!! you need to learn more and read...
Instead of praising muaviya, you should have tell people what mess and atrocities he brought about in his era. Who murdered famous sahabi Hujar bin addi RA by the way??? Shame on you mufti for glorifying the satanic people who tried their best to cut roots of Islam.
very rational, logical and balance view of Karbala. No doubt it was the biggest tragedy of Islam which was an ultimate outcome of a series of events happent earlier. Thats why I'm hold a strong view "Keep religion seperate from politics". You see there was no conflict/difference of opinion in the matter of Deen. All differences were political but ended up creating an ocean of difference in Deen.
I heard Our beloved Qazi Sahab’s view on Karbala. He thinks Hussein wanted the seat of power . But Hussein himself said that Wa innama kharajtu li talabi-l islahi fi ummaati jaddi” (Indeed, I am leaving Madinah to reform the ummah of my grandfather). He didn’t do it for power as our Qazi sahab has said. Hussein is not a foolish teenager.
@Wazza dan agree, im from Sunni family. But after research I'm Muslim. I take good thing from both school of thought as long as it is inline with Quran. Definitely you will find the love and respect for ahlul bayat with shia school of thought.
@Zaid actually i see a lot of discussion about what Ibn Abbas, Muhammad Al-Hanfiyyah, etc said to him. Hussein did have a response. But I feel that his response has been completely sidelined. And people's opinion about him wanting to be king is just an opinion by people,, IMHO. Hussein said himself he didn't come out to seek power, he came out to reform the ummah of his grandfather.
@Zaid Hussein and ibn Abbas had a lengthy discussion.. Don't jus listen to the begining of their discussion where ibn Abbas feels Hussein is facing danger.. Try instead to read the whole discussion.. Hussein's understanding of the situation was deep and wise.. Read about it in detail and find out how many sahaba supported Hussein's mission (including ibn Abbas and Umm Salamah the mother of the believers) The tyrant had to be faced before he corrupts the whole story of Islam.. Hussein saw this earlier than his contemporaries.. If Hassan were in Hussein's place, he would do the same as Hussein did.. just the way hussein respected the treaty of Hassan with muawiyah before muawiyah broke it. Try reading more about hussein from people who understand both the spiritual and the political part of his movement. The prophet s.a.w says,, the best of jihad is saying the truth against a tyrant افضل جهاد كلمة حق عند سلطان جاءر The prophet s a.w also says, Hassan and Hussein are the leaders of the youth of paradise
@Dani Mendoza loool his a full on wobbler ignore him brother wahabis are all taught Islam with no love that’s where’re they fail to understand the martyrdom of imam Hussein to even say he was wrong for going shows the level love they have for him
All those tons of books in the background are nothing if you don't understand Hussain. The blood of Hussain saved Islam during its most difficult time.
@@theibbe Ummayads had sieged Mecca twice under their caliphate. They demolished the Kaaba. They killed innocent people, looted money and oppressed people. There was no barakath(blessing) during the time of the Ummayads. Hussain was following merely what his Grandfather the prophet had taught him. To say Hussain made mistake his misunderstanding his cause.
@@theibbeunder ummayad rulership it was illegal to name your son Ali. The ummayads were tyrants other than Uthmaan may Allah be pleased with him and the actual sahaba that did not change after the prophets death.
In history there is only one man that gave Zakat whilst in the state of rukooh And that is Imam Ali Ibn Talib His status is so elevated that he has enraged the enemies His wisdom was beyond comprehension When he says “salooni. Salooni, Kabla ant’afkadoonee” “ask me, ask me before you miss me!” Why did he say that? Because he has already been endowed with this wisdom He has been endowed with this knowledge for you and I to follow But he is not just a man of wisdom… He is a man of action You and I brothers and sisters should be muslims of action The name of Ali Ibn Abu Talib is ‘Sha’er Allah’ It is Dhikr!Dhikr of Allah. To mention the name of Imam Ali is dhikr of Allah Because when you look at him, he does nothing but take you to Allah He never takes you to himself He never says worship me He never says how great I am He never does any of that He keeps taking us to the prophet and Allah So why should he not be remembered? Why should we not remember him? Why should we not mention him? Why should we not live like him?
Live like the prophet. Stop making other peoples prophets. The prophet PBUH sons didn't live because he was the last prophet. Stop idlolising his family.
Destiny was determined, prophet Mohammad AS was informed of this incident in his life in advance and shown the place where his beloved grandson will be martyred and he cried.. Remembrance is in different ways, silent and tearful from victims and sympathizers , emotional and loud from the guilty and remorseful ..the guilt carries on eating the conscious for generations.
Suggest you stick to the fiqh bro, don't get into history that you can not coraborate, you use reason to explain the hadith, but the reason seems to have been set aside when you try to explain the history, you definitely seem to be explaining it not standing on hazrat Imam Hussain's side. May Allah give you insight into the historic events, and open your heart to the love of ahl ul bait.
Mufti i respect you a lot but do you think that Abu Safyan battle with the Prophet pbuh Muwaiya battle with Ali, and martyrdom of Hasan in his time and many other companions like Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr, Hujar ibn Adi, cursing of Ali on mimbar, bloodsheds And Martyrdom of Hussain at time of Yazid, Harra in which Madina was looted, shooting kaaba is just a co incidence????
u missed a lot of key points. Imam Hussain said to Ibn Abbas "if I stay in Makkah, they will kill me here, for I do not want to cause bloodshed in the holy sanctity of the Kaabah"
@Shaun Shaikh the prophet preaching Islam itself was considered a rebellion. Ur wrong there. The Makkans heads all condemned the prophet for preaching. The only reason he left was because Abu Talib RA passed away and his protection was gone. He then went to Madina formed an army and went to war with the very same Makkans... Rebellions are permitted when the ruler is corrupt and unfit to lead.
So now what then? What should we do? If thr prophet knew it, why have you a problem with it happening? According to you kind of people we should talk more about ahle Bayt than the Quran and the prophet
the things that stands apart is there was no shura after Abu Bakr, just direct appointment of Umar, same thing for Uthman, a group of seven is selected to elect and then Ali appoints no one? How can the last religion of God come without clear guidance and instruction for leadership? Especially when that leadership announces decrees such as banning Hadith writing, preservation of the Quran and other critical edicts that will have an enormous effect on Islam. Even the way we wash our arms in Wudhi is consistent and OCD yet leadership is open to the whims of whoever is in power? As far as Uthman's nepotism, it is what it is, not appointing competent governors just relatives. If you're going to represent the final religion of God on earth I would at least expect some sort of Justice with such decisions.
Nothing wrong with nepotism if they people appointed are qualified. Even Ali RA appointed his relatives as governors. In hectic time, sometimes it is best to have trustable blood relations in positions of power
Its the fact that the majority of sunnis have been told lies and deceived into it being a shura or some sort of ‘fair’ democratic voting system when thats far from the truth. Also it would make sense if the Prophet pbuh appointed Abu bakr himself to be be his successor and then Abu bakr appoints the next person after him- like you said about nepotism. Because then that would be an order from Allah with no mistakes, and then we would not have corrupt rulers like yazid. But this was not the case. Therefore Islamically such thing does not work. It is not logical to keep Islams fallible successors up to the people. Allah has always left previous prophets with divinely chosen successors, it is the sunnah of Allah to choose who would succeed. It was never just up to people.
Thoroughly enjoyed the clarity of discussion and the objection maintained. From my research into this topic, I have found that you have absolutely accurately captured the events of Karbala. And Almighty knows best. Warm regards
Ubay the Govenor of Kufa was a tyrant and he would not allow any Kufans to help Hadrath Hussain R. A. and his party. Killing Muslim bin Akheel and the person who helped him was Tortured is a proof that Ubay would not allow the Kufans or ( Shia to Ali) to help Hadrath Hussain’s party. The Kufans or Shia to Ali were threathened and forced not to help Hussain, So how can you miss this fact and simply accuse the Kufans for not standing up for Hadrat Hussain. If only Sunni Scholars admit this fact and stop accusing the Kufans then the whole narration will be so balanced and factual. Why do Sunni Scholars just use the accusation and make the oppressed Kufans or Shia to Ali look so mean and treacherous. I am Sunni and will protest this point of narration in Karbala’s sad Event. If Kufans were not threatened and Ubay had not killed Muslim bin Akheel ( Hussain’s cousin and the person who gave shelter to him was not tortured ) My 100% assessment is that they would have helped Hadrat Hussain. So Sunni Scholars please stop and look into Ubay’s Brutal behaviour towards Kufans and mention this point rather than blaming the Kufans.
I don´t think the Kufans or any of those in the surroundings who were sympathetic to Ali and supported Husseins cause were treated unjustly. The sources already from back then clearly show that people had even before Hussein left warned or discouraged him from seeking help from the Kufans and instead asking him to turn to the Yemenis. I don´t see this as something conspiratorial or controversial to find it like this. If one wishes to think of "what ifs" it would be better to ask oneself why Hussein didn´t stay with Abdullah ibn Zubair and support him against Yazid. Imagine the combination of the grandson of Abu Bakr with the grandson of the Prophet. Given that there was discontent with Yazid and his clear inability to govern wisely, they could have been a formidable challenge to the Banu Umayya. Both militarily and politically.
Those are a people who have passed away; theirs is that which they earned and yours that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do. 2:141 Quran
After Dr Israr's explanation of Karbala, I think Mufti's give a good overview of the historical context. I've also seen Dr TUQ's version, but he doesn't explain the background, but rather just talks about it from an emotive point of view about the death. Must take a lot of research to give the background of the event, rather than play on emotions of the awaam.
lol calm down they are just regular people. The way the shia describe Islam and characters in it. it sounds like you are talking about divine beings from greek mythology. idiots
*"PEACE BE UPON YOU,* O Abu l-Qasim; Peace be with you O al-Abbas b. Ali!" *"O FLAGBEARER OF KARBALA,* O fulfiller of our prayer, *"PEACE BE UPON YOU!"* Allah's Messenger: *"FATIMA* is a part of *ME,* and *WHOEVER* makes her *ANGRY,* makes me *ANGRY."* -Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)* - Bukhari 3729 (62,114) or (v5,57,11) . *"FATIMA,* the daughter of Allah's Messenger got *ANGRY* and *STOPPED* speaking to Abu Bakr, and CONTINUED assuming that attitude till *SHE DIED"* -Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)* -Bukhari 3092, 3093 (57,2) or (v4,53,325) . Allah's Messenger: *"NO DOUBT,* FATIMA is a part of *ME,* I hate to see her being troubled. *BY ALLAH,* the daughter of Allah's Messenger and the *DAUGHTER of ALLAH'S ENEMY* cannot be the wives of one man." -Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)* -Bukhari 3729 (62,77) or (v5,57,76) - *"BY ALLAH,* the DAUGHTER of Allah's Messenger [Fatima] *CANNOT BE COMBINED* with the DAUGHTER of *GOD'S ENEMY* [WHO IS SHE?]" -(EVERYONE KNOWS - there's only *ONE WOMAN* he could be talking about) -Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)* -Muslim 2449d (44,140) or (v6,31,6002) . *"FATIMAH bint Muhammad* is a part of *ME,* and I hate to see her faced with troubles. **BY ALLAH,** the DAUGHTER of *THE MESSENGER of Allah* (saw) and the DAUGHTER of *THE ENEMY of ALLAH* will **NEVER** *BE JOINED TOGETHER"* - WOW!!! -Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)* -Sunan Ibn Majah 1999 (v3,9,1999) or (9,2007) or (11,1999) . Allah's Messenger: *"FATIMA* is a part of *ME,* and I hate what she hates to *SEE,* and *WHAT HURTS HER, HURTS ME."* -Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)* -Bukhari 5230 (67,163) or (v7,62,157) . the 'Messenger of Allah said: *"'ALI IS FROM ME* and *I AM FROM 'ALI.* And *NONE* should represent me *EXCEPT MYSELF OR 'ALI* -Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3719 (v1,46,3719) or (49,4085) . *"ABU BAKR* was a *RICH businessman,* who later became one of the *FIRST CONVERTS* to Islam and *EXTENSIVELY* contributed **HIS WEALTH** in support of Muhammad's work. He then became Muhammad's *FATHER-in-law* through his *DAUGHTER AISHA,* and would soon become the world's *FIRST CALIPH* (Head Ruler of Islamic State in ALL matters)" -wikipedia -'Abu Bakr' summary
Shame on you rafidi. The woman mentioned negativly in those hadith are about the daughter of a disbeliever that ali wanted to marry alongside Fatimah. The noble prophet disapproved of the marriage. So you are taking them out of context, shame on you and you will get no goodness out of it. Allah bless Muhamed, his family and the companions. Those who Part from these 3 are disconnected. Shame on you.
"The Children of Umayad shall ascend to my pulpit. I have seen them in my dreams jumping on my pulpit like monkeys." Then the Prophet said that the following verse was revealed about the Umayad: And We made that dream, which We have shown you, only as a test to the people and the cursed tree in the Qur’an. And We warn them but it only increases their extreme transgression! (17:60)
A lot of historical issues in Mufti's presentation here ... for example al-Harra and the uprising of Madina came after Hussayn's martyrdom, it was one of the less talked about things which led to it. And of course that "the Shia" were the ones responsible is nonsense. There were many factions and tribes in Kufa ... it was a very complicated situation. But could you ever imagine Umar ibn alKhattab agreeing with Mufti that Yazid, the ruler at the time, was _not_ the most responsible? ... Never. Could almost hear Umar frown
@Dhuku 10 Do you know who these "Kufans" are? Do you know which tribes lived there? Who their leaders were? What links they had? Who were their influencers? What was their history up to that point? Who were they allied with? What were the family connections? What messages they sent out? etc ... There were over 20'000 people minimum living in Kufa, and they weren't all the same. Generally there were 3 groups 1- sincere supporters who wanted to and would have supported but we're prevented. Ibn Ziyad had blocked the city and had soldiers on all the roads leafing out and declared a curfew. They also never thought, like most, th st Hussain would actually be killed. They saw the current situation as lost and hoped there would be another and a chance and opportunity. These later rose up in rebellion and vengeance in the movement of am-mukhtar and his "army of the repentant" because they saw that they should have tried to reach Hussain even if they had been killed. We know which tribal leaders and influencers and which people belonged to this group 2 - weak supporters who wanted to but made excuses for themselves and were cowardly. They never rose up later nor were they ever truly fully committed supporters, they lacked the determination and were those who wanted to and would support, but only so long as others did first. Again, we know who these were. 3 - those who wanted/invited Hussain to come so they could and did betray him and in order to gain favour with Banu Ummaya. More often these were the leaders of the tribes who were worldly and wanted power wealth and position, and because the mentality was still incredibly tribal at the time, their tribes obeyed them. And yes we know the names of these hypocrities too. And of course dividing them into just 3 groups is to keep it simplistic. In reality every tribal group was different in some way. Some even wanted to support Hussain fully but in the hopes of receiving positions of honor in his Caliphate once established. These were few because it was known that Hussain, like his brother and father before him could not be induced to favouritism, so most of this ambition wanted to ingrain themselves with Mu'awiya's son. So it isn't that simple as just throwing out "in general the Kufans never intended" to support Hussain. There were factions who did, factions who didn't, and various degrees in between.. And for a time Muslim bin 'Aqeel had a lot of power and had established a base, and took bay'ah from thousands ... but the afore mentioned group 3 betrayed him and them to seek favour with the Ummayads, group 2 then became fearful and weakened and group 1 were prevented, held hostage directly or by proxy of their families or killed. Take a lesson from the Sahaba who fought at Badr, Uhud and Khandaq ... they weren't all of one level or mind in support of the Prophet against Quraysh. The Qur'an gives us the full picture rather than the rosy one of Hadiths and Seera; some were cowardly, some turned their backs and ran, some didn't want to fight, some were in kahoots with Quraysh, some left the battlefield, some listened to the hypocrities, some were closer to kufr than emaan, even the true believers became split into two groups because of them, some disobeyed when they saw "what they loved", some wanted the dunya while others the aakhira, some kept running not caring about anything even while the Messenger was calling them back, etc etc To paint all the kufans with the same brush just means one thing; you haven't truly studied the situation and don't know the most relevant players nor their histories, backgrounds and motives.
@Dhuku 10 No, on the whole "they" weren't. Some of the leaders were. And it only takes a few inside traitors to destroy a movement. Information is power and just a few betrayers to an enemy can cause great loss Your "oh what a surprise" remark about the Kufans and Kufa just shows that you've swallowed the Ummayad propaganda against that city and which seeped into the mentality of the scholars in the same way extreme "anti-Shia" views did, whereas Nasibis were ignored. Kufa and the Kufans had in fact the most vestiges and remains of true Islam, and they never all rolled over and gave up to the tyrants like the rest of the Ummah, including Madina, did. They fought on for Islam both physically and intellectually. True fiqh started in Kufa, three (really more) of the seven Qur'an recitations came from Kufa, the founder of true Hadith studies via jarh and ta'deel, Shu'ba's school, was in Kufa ... that and more. All because Kufa was the last seat of the Khilafa al-Rashida, Ali gave over 500 khutbas there, and before him they had been taught and learnt from another of the great sahaba, Abdulla bin Mas'oud. So don't be so naive and realise that history is written by the victors who vilify those who stood against them. The victors were the Ummayads. There is no "putting simply" such a complicated history, and definitely not with propaganda.
@Zaid you obv never heard of saqiffah and how they chose the leadership while imam Ali was doing gussal over the prophets body seriously open a page in Bukhari you may learn something about your own beliefs
@Zaid no u can't love his oppressors, nor can u love him equally to the other sahabis, there's no command from god to have mawada in abu bakr so i don't get where you got your "we love them all the same" ideas from, it amazes me that sunnis still think we're living the era of the rashidun and u must "love" him else you're executed...
I am new listener to you , extremely disappointed with your analysis, the fact you are giving benefit of doubt to Yazid LA, who slaughtered the prophet’s family, a very irrational analysis from a rational Alim , not sure why our Sunni brothers continue to defend people who systematically slaughtered prophet’s family. I pray that one day you will do some further research and change your mind, may Allah bless you , I still love you !
You want us to abandon rational and truth and start cursing everyone you curse? All the sahaba and pray to Allah with curses? Doesn't make sense. Why are shia brothers worshipping humans and cursing all the time,? Still love you
@@noumanqureshi8489 , From your writing I understand you are a sectarian sunni. There's no a single letter of the brother that says someone should be cursed or to be insulted. Mufti says r.t.a. after the names of those who "islamised" for personal gains. And the brother said L.A. after the same names. Hold your decision.
So did I understand correctly Mufti Abu Layth? You praise and admire the son of Abu Sufyan, who was one of the biggest enemies of Islam and the prophet (pbuh)? Let us not forget who his mother was. Hind ate the liver of the prophets uncle. Yazid was insane and made a massacre on the Ahlulbait (a.s). So, just looking on the people who gave birth to Muawiyah and the guy who is his son, you can clearly see that this guy is definitively someone who should not be considerd a sahaba or a just person. Mufti, I respect you. As a shia I do not only respect you but the whole sunni community. But you should definitely do more research. If we Muslims do not accept our black and bloody history, we are doomed to repeat this bloody history. And thats what I see today. I find it horrible that some sunni people doesn't care about the early beginning of islamic history. Whatever went wrong at that time, people are rejecting it and saying everything went fine and it was paradise. And if there are undeniable facts like kerbala, some sunnis just don't want to be confronted with that. It's sad.
The individuals that follow Shiasm doctrine are the killers of Hadhrat Hussain radi allahu anhu, please stop 'white-washing' your malicious Jewish history... Abdullah bin Sabah is your lord and savior. You have misused ahl e bait.. majority of proclaimed sayed Shia were slaves of Hadhrat Hasan and Hussain after they passed away. You are essentially our run away slaves that were the property of Ahl e bayt, like the African slaves took the names of their slave masters, you misuse our bloodline for your own benefit. Sharam karo. Maafi aur taubah karo.. look at the faces of majority Shia ahl e bayt, you look like yajuj majuj. You are the progeny of our run away slaves, astighfirullah
The fact your on a battlefield against Hussein or Ali is the part I will never understand ? Yazeed makes ibn ziyaad a governor doesn’t that give a clue on his intentions ? Mufti I like ya but you don’t half talk cack at times 😂
@@braveheart8318 why was Ali in battle ? Who started the war? When the enemies come banging on your door and disrupt peace in Islam for no other reason than power you wouod sit down and let them ? And how dare you even raise a sword at imam Ali do you not know of what he has done for Islam more than any other man in Islam andddd the prophet confirmed his status at ghadeer and you question why he went to battle ? Wow you really are a Sunni
@@braveheart8318 you need two to tango lol? So when the prophet went to battle with Abu sufian that makes him wrong to ? The crap that comes out your gobs Just to defend people like yazeed and muawiyah just to defend Sunnism is so wrong and pathetic ! And what is Aisha doing on the battles field against Ali in the first place ???? Does she not know of the virtues of Ali ? Your narrations tell you his the most narrated sahabi in your books which were narrated by Aisha ???!
@@braveheart8318 mufti just told you yazeed attacked medina the house of the prophet ??? And your questioning why Ali went to battle ??? And when Hassan made peace with muawiyah part of that peace treat was not to give his caliphate to yazeed well Look how that turned out !
@@braveheart8318 the prophet said about Ali in your books Ali is from me and I am from Ali.” “Ali is the first person to believe in my Prophet hood and will be the first person to meet me on the Day of Judgment.” “I am the city of knowledge and Ali is its door. He who wants to gain knowledge should come through the door.”
@@braveheart8318 your right your the whole of the sunnism is a farce and we don’t need much to dismantle it all you need to do is get You guys to read your own books and stop being sheep you’ll leave sunnism I. A second
Caliph and Imam are different. Truth is Ali is the first Imam and rightful first Caliph but Abu Bakr was literally the first Caliph. And then the other 3 Caliphs after him were the Caliphs. It cannot be denied. So yes you can believe in both and you can't hate either. Ingeneral you have to hate those that are enemies and undermine the status of Imams and the responsibility of a Caliph. Meaning yazeed was caliph but he did not do justice to his given and appointed responsibility. He killed the Imam. The other 3 Caliphs were not in warfare with Imam Ali (AS) and that should speak volumes.
@Shaun Shaikh You need sources, but also look at the muslim population, especially in Sufism were both the Calpihs and the Imams are respected greatly, imo thats the best way to go as it avoids dispute. Qandeel is right imo
@Shaun Shaikh this is politics and spirituality have to be separated. All I know is that winners write history. Truth is always silenced. And we need to aim for what is the best for the community. And you asked for sources. And like there are 2 things that came to mind. One was the 3rd Caliph was being attacked by the people and Imam Hassan (AS) and Imam Hussain (AS) were sent to guard the door to his house. And the 3rd Caliph was later found murdered. So respect for the political authority is implied there. Another issue is that ever since the verses came down when lady Aisha was being slandered because she was left behind by accident and returned late at night. To silence the people because they were always agitators and those that followed the Prophet (PBUH) but only to at times test and trouble him. Imam Ali (AS) said to tell the people you will* divorce her but after the divine revelations. Lady Aisha and her father since then have been at odds with Iman Ali (AS) for even mentioning divorce. But truth be told that Lady Aisha and Umar's Daughter had upset the Prophet (PBUH) numerous times and almost ended up being close to getting divorced. These are personal sentiments that got twisted and politicised. And these things do not matter to muslims now because they are not political matters. The only thing to take from this event is the 4 witnesses to prove slander. And we can see in current times how it is used so disgustingly. That a rape victim has to bring forth 4 witnesses to prove her pain and yet she still gets punished. The 4 verses were not meant to be used like that at all ! It was to be used as if you are accusing a person if sin. Especially Zina then 4 witnesses should come forward and say so. Islam started out as a social reform and this is why the Caliphs literally have had more power and money and influence. Because it something that any man can manage. But Imamate is about knowing hidden knowledge. They were incharge of spirituality more so then political or social or economic control.
People can make mistakes and under pressures elect a wrong leader/Caliph. But Prophethood and Imamate have always been chosen by God alone. We need to then set our worldly and social affairs in order so we can then work on and improve our spirituality and then be able to recognize the true divine guidance from the real divinely chosen people. We cannot see truth when we are in turmoil within ourselves. And I believe there is no exact names to be said to call out the enemies of Islam. There is satan, abu lahab and there is yazid. So we need fight against people who fall under the umbrella of their treacherous ways and cruelty. We must be against evil and dispell it so we can know what the truth. But we need to humble ourselves and realize only God now can tell us what's evil and truth. I believe sense of right and wrong is the real Quran and it is in all our hearts. Issues with bad leaders is that they corrupt the souls of their followers. They make their followers act in ways that in normality they would have never. I am inclined towards Shia-ism now but literally I never seen anything were they curse the Sahabas. It makes no sense. They believe the hadiths on somethings are not accurate and that goes for their own books too. So they discard it. This is why they are also open to discuss and even encouraged to seek out about other religions and their teachings. Like in the past Prophets and imams and walis can be in any place and time and of any religion. We have much to learn from one another.
The comment section is quite something here, it's either these rafidi claiming muawiya a disbeliever, even if he did error in fighting with Ali, as the haq is with Ali. You get these nasibi types disrespectong imam Hussain, who is the leader of the youth of jannah. May Allah bless this ummah with love for the ahlul bayt and respect for the sahaba.
@Dani Mendoza thank you at last we have a brother whose on the right path exactly ! If you knew everything you needed to know about the prophets family and people raised their swords against them you would automatically go to the side of the truth
@Dani Mendoza 100 per cent brother I don’t agree with the hitting yourself with chains etc and most shiasnfeel the same but I could never be a Sunni to many sheep never read a page of Bukhari just been taught whatever their masters bark at them hence their love for the dog muawiyah
Overall an indepth analysis. One slight disagreement. Shias who invited him , the main Shia sahaba were martyred before the Karbala event by the cunning ibn e ziad .
@Dear Layth, Will u agree that it started the day Abu Sufyan converted under duress,he waited for the Right time, Right time came into third generation, I dont believe Mr Abu Sufyan was a Muslim with sincere heart but under no option.?
@Siraj Haq seriously brother do your research there’s only one question I ask if you were given the choice whose side would you battle for and I think that answers your question
@Zayed Haroon it’s ok sunis are actually starting to read their own books and coming over to us so cry all you want the days where your salafi teachers telling you what to do or say are coming to a end not even sure why you call yourself a Sunni if you haven’t even read 10 per cent of your own Hadiths blind following 😂
@Siraj Haq tell me where he made a Mistake in this situation didn’t the prophet say the haq is with Ali ? Your books again read it dummy ! And if Aisha and mAwiyah new the haq was with Ali why the hell wouod you raise a army to fight against Ali it’s all there in front of you - your just defending your school of thought over the truth simple as and what does Allah say about the wife’s and not to show or display themselves in public and you got Aisha on the battlefield we don’t need to curse sahaba or anyone Allah has already told you wha he will do to those who go against him your just to blind to see it
@Fahad Alam Bukhari talks about the prophet having wet dreams and prophet Moses running after a rock naked ???? Difference we dismiss silly Hadiths you guys hold Bukhari as some Kind of saint like all his narrations are gospel that’s the difference
Karbala is one of the many tragedies that followed from the fact that there is no clear instruction or frame work given by the Quran or the Prophet on how to attain political power, how to exercise it, power sharing, the structure of a state, what its goals are, how to hold it to account, how to transfer that power once the time comes and what the role is of the individual in relation to this political power (what we today refer to as civic identity, which is equality infront of the law in regards to both rights and obligations). Instead this seems to have been left to the people with only the guiding light of the princples of the Quran and the analysis of the various riwayaat of Hadith and Sira and Sunnah in general. Which of course is all a human exercise in interpretative analysis and deduction. Some might say this lack of clarity and structure as mentioned above is an oversight or even a mistake on the part of the Prophet and God, if one believes both to exist and have any such role to begin with. But another perspective on this is that it may have been not just a mercy but actually a very astute and wise decision to not fixate or exactly dilineate these processes and concepts making them the only option for the forseeable future of planet Earth if you are Muslim. Yes. The principles are there and can be derived from the Quran and if guided by these Quranic principles, the Sunnah/Hadith can support this process. But what exactly comes out of this process is very much guided and determined by the people, who they are and the times they live in. So in that sense, avoiding to chisel into stone as it were an exact process and structure of what an "islamic" society governed by political power with individual members/citizens should look like, with no leeway, no room for accomodation or flexibility in the light of realities such as differences in culture, ethnic/religious composition, in neighbours, in geography, in financial or material standing or in the light of natural disasters or other calamities and so on is actually a very important ability to have.
Study the life of the ahlulbayt imams if you wish to understand political Islam.. otherwise you will just get trapped in fabricated hadith designed to keep tyrants in power.. The prophet's teachings about politics are clear but the ruling class did alot of interference after him.. So whenever it gets cloudy, just study the lives of his true representatives to get a clear understanding
@@safinahighschool2179 It is not that clear cut, Safina High School. Not at all. If it were, we would not be having these kinds of discussions today. The matter is neither clarified nor resolved when consulting the Quran and the Prophets sayings and doings. Even now, among the Shia, the idea of political power is not universally agreed on. You have those who abide by the Velayet-e-Faqih and you have those who say that such rule is only reserved for the Imams. Given that the 12th went into occultation or hiding if you are from the twelvers, those who object to V-e-F say simply that there is no 13th Imam named Khomeini or 14th named Khamenei. So rest assured, the matter of political power and the relation it has to the subjects I listed is not clarified by God or the Prophet even when you involve the claimed Imams as a third party source or continuation of the Imamate of the Prophet. Have you come about this certainty about the matters you mention by your own careful scrutiny of the sources or have you been given this information? I would appreciate you sharing this. It would help create understanding.
@Shaun Shaikh it’s a RUclips channel with over 7k videos so literally every question answered and every topic addressed, sheikh Yassir Habib does most the lectures and its in Arabic tho there are a view of his lectures with Arabic subtitles on rafidha RUclips channel, hope u enjoy!
You missed out a few precursors Mufti Sahib. Notably the event of Ghadeer in which the Prophet appointed Ali as his successor, the event of Black Thursday in which Ibn Abbas narrates how Umar thwarted the Prophet from writing his will and of course how Saqifa commenced whilst the Prophet's body was having ghusl done on it by Ali and the Hashemites. I just have one question for you. Do you really think the Prophet would not have chosen a successor or left inheritance for his child? You're a rationalist and a logical man. Use it.
@@shaan1001 everything he said was true, all verified by salafi Ulama. A simply RUclips search will show you what he said was true with q and a with assim al Hakim. I'm not even shia but it upsets me that we Sunnis defend muawiyah and yazeed. Genuinely, how can we stand with people who went against the prophets family? Especially muawiyah against Ali, do you not know how Ali KW was martyred? About how he was supposed to meet muawiyah but muawiyah suddenly became I'll?
You brought in Bukhari, why not accept another Bukhari gem, When a kid is conceived,Angel asks Allah, Male or Female, What about his/her Provision. Age and above all, Blessed or Wretched,? every thing is Pre ordained,?I would love ur response on this hadith for sure, I only agree with you that politics is a dirty game across the board historically established, exceptions can not be rule.What is difference between Islam and other dynasties.?I think, by this yardstick,Muslims pogrom by our present PM Modi will have to be accepted as normal, he rose from governor to prime ministership.
You are describing the karbala incident from a story book . Why don't you rely on authentic hadith to describe the incidents. Stories or tarikh are written by people which has no chain of authority. Do you understand the difference between rightly guided caliph and a tyrant ruler. How easily you undermined the efforts of Hazrat Ali to bring things on right track? If Hussain had given the bayah to yazeed then his rule would have been legitimise. I am deeply disappointed by the lectures, you are just repeating the same old stories which comes from that damn story book. Not an intellectual analysis. Same as salafi wahabi ideology. You are accepting some theory from the historian and rejecting some. Why? Oh because I don't feel so. Total talk is rubbish and based on your feeling and assumptions.
This guy is pure fitna stop watching him..haven’t watched the video but already know this guy has an apologetic position towards yazid(im sunni)..I saw one of his videos where he was downplaying black magic like it didn’t really exist to suit his own western narrative that things like that don’t actually exist even though it’s mentioned clearly in the Quran.. secondly isn’t it frowned upon to wear things that would make u resemble a woman(earring)... I have no problem with people wearing earrings but a mufti really? Lol.. some mufti he is trust me he’s doing more bad than good
@Sam E I’ll need source of hazrat Hussein wearing earrings Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah cursed men who wear womens clothes and women who wear mens clothes. (Reported by Abu Dawood in al-Sunan, Kitaab al-Libaas, Baab fi libaas al-nisaa). On this basis, it is not permitted for men to wear earrings or nose-rings. The kinds of female adornment known among Quraysh and others includes earrings, bracelets, anklets and bangles worn on the upper arm. The point is that these are known as forms of womens adornment since ancient times. Also it mentions imam Malik wore earrings as a kid when he wanted to be a singer.. we don’t know if he took them off as an adult when he came towards Islam I want to know what it means when you say black magic occurs but not in a folkloric way?
Yes this is my point. Pkease read my comment. They were forced to not to help Hussain and the scholars don’t talk about this and simply blame the kufans for decievi ng Hussain. I don’t understand this explainination??? The whole religion is now practised on the scholars personal interpretations, agendas and biased views.. Corruptioon and filth everywhere. 🔥🔥🔥
@@mustikhan7512 mate, mufti is right though. It's history, the past events are done now. Pure absolute truth is probably impossible to find as history and scholarly input has change the narratives. So all that remains are interpretation of facts. Sunni and Shia will always exist, it is about accepting difference and co-exisiting as one ummah.
Shia means to follow if they weren’t on the side of imam Hussein in Karbala they clearly weren’t Shia ? It’s not hard to understand really and where were the 85 per cent so called Sunnis ????
many shias wanted to be there but thousands were massacred and imprisoned, and the mecans and medinians also wanted to kill him so it's not just the shias fault
Many of the Muslims of that era actually began to rally around Abdullah ibn Zubayr in Mecca. The reasoning presented here is that perhaps Hussein should have seen a brighter future in remaning with ibn Zubayr in Mecca. As Abu Layth states, there were several instances recorded that people close to Hussein told him not to go. There were many who were displeased with Yazid and his rule and given a figure from the household of Muhammad supported by the grandson of one of the most important Sahaba could have meant a very real political challenge. Instead, things unfolded very differently.
@Shaun Shaikh Based on my reading of this part of early islamic history, it is clear the real opposition as in the most organised and motivated was found in Mecca. Medina too was seething at the Banu Umayya. That´s where the resistance should have formed and had the most likely chance to succeed. If the Kufans were serious about getting rid of the Umayya, the rise of Mecca followed by Medina under the leadership of Hussein, seconded by ibn Zubayr would have been the signal for their own uprising. One needn´t be a political genius to make this qualified guess. Typically this is exactly how such uprisings occurr. To leave your powerbase and safe haven like Hussein did and wander with a small contingent towards your enemies powerbase is not sound. Neither politically nor militarily. Kufa was in the firm hands of the Umayya led by that cruel and power hungry governor of theirs. He had already subdued Basra in the harshest and cleverest of ways. He was not an unknown. There was this aspect of underestimating your enemy too. The despair the Meccans felt at Hussein leaving is, in my opinion, the forgotten tragedy. He was their only realistic cause. I mean ibn Zubayr was the grandson of Abu Bakr but Abu Bakrs oldest son was still alive. His claim to the "Throne" would have been far stronger than the grandson, who also was the grandson on his mothers side which to the Arabs of the time was not as strong as being so on the fathers side. So I find claims, mentioned in some sources, that he was coveting the Caliphate for himself to be highly dubious. Even more so if Hussein was by his side in Mecca. It would make far more sense to bolster Husseins claim, as being the grandson of the Prophet who´s father also had been the Caliph weighs far more. There really is no comparing them. So ibn Zubayr would have been by Husseins side. But what did Hussein do? Well, AL Memon mentioned "naive". I think that would be a good start to describe what Hussein decided to do. End of the day, what does one learn from this history and what are the takeaways for todays situation? This is a far more important and pertinent question than discussing exactly who did what in the past.
@Shaun Shaikh "There are three sides to every story: your side, my side and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each differently.". /Robert Evans What is pivotal is not the two sides but rather what´s in the middle. Do we leave it empty to get filled by chaos since nature abhors a vacuum or do we transform it into the platform upon which all sides can meet as equals to build a better future that neither side could ever achieve on their own?
@Siraj Haq he said first thing that happened was even of harrah and then he said at end of his khilafah karbalah happened .. listen from where he was teling about yazis.. he made many mistakes other than this also..
Brother Mufti I think at times your contention become subjective and erroneous. For example the stereotype of Shia being killers finds space here too. Secondly, taking a reductionist approach on the issue of Syedna Hussain AS leaving Hijaz. Thirdly, your hypothesis that Yazid didn't want the gruesome murder to happen and discrediting his hateful comments on the martyrdom of Imam Hussain AS. I mean his couplets have been recorded by historians of both formative and classical periods. Also, brother Shias don't use Muharram to curse sahaba and so called sahabas(being the difference of opinion between two sects).
why did the army let the women go when some of the men in the governor's army were recognized by Hussein (AS)? The women could also have spoken about this to yazid (who in turn would have executed them for treason) or could have just spread the news
Neither. With all due respect to Mufti, his discourse on Karbala and the Sunni love and reverence for the Ahl e Bait AS is disappointing. If you understand Urdu then Dr. Tahir ul Qadri and Maulana Ishaq have great lectures on Karbala. I suspect Shaykh Ninowy does a great overview of Karbala from Al Bidayah Wan Nihayah but I have not watched his series myself yet, but he has expressed great love for Imam Hussain AS in the past.
@Shaun Shaikh Thank you for sharing this link. I have never heard of these people, I will definitely look into it. Glad to know more similar scholars are out there. It seems all their material is in Arabic which I unfortunately do not understand though. My impression of Farid and the SD team is that they're more interested in engaging in polemics against the Shia and they seem to have a wahhabi/nasibi trend. I could be wrong but that is my impression, and I personally don't find such an approach helpful or useful at all. The same can be said for the entire Hyde park speakers corner dawah/polemics/debate scene.
Shia e Ali. The followers of Ali a.s. , Because Ali was closest to the Sunnah of the Prophet. The others started to deviate from the Sunnah with innovations.
I find Shias doctrine too emotional and not based on reason. They act like Islam is all about revenge for ahlul bayt. They forget Islam is about Worshipping Allah alone. Our purpose is to spread that message
@Mufti Abu Layth. I strongly believe you are as well playing that politics of Muawiya, hence speaking this way. I can't tell the how many times I have watched this very video amongst your great educative videos. However, there's no way Muawiya and his immediate family attained the title of r.t.a. never. I strongly believe the message of Islam came to us after being destroyed by the Umayyas. With reasoning and rationality, Muawiya and his likes were never Muslims for the sake of faith.
This your take of Karbala isn't born out of reasoning and logic. I strongly believe you are playing Muawiya's "good cop and bad cop" tactics. How could someone who wants me dead wouldn't starve me? Those that attacked the city of the prophet are really capable of destroying everything He left behind without thinking of it at all.
35:20 no wonder once muawiya made someone speak bad about ali ra infront of people and then scolded that person and took him out for speaking bad against ali ra
So umar chooses caliphate not Allah and the prophet lol. Then we are told if you dont accept umar choice its kufer lol. Even though he himself says it's a mistake lol
When the uncle of the prophet pbuh got martyrdom, Hamza may Allah be pleased with him, how come the prophet pbuh didnt tell us to do Matham for him?????????? Nobody can aswer this because they know its made up thing about Matham
@@yawarabass3328 simple answer. Imam Jafar Sadiq R.A.... A.S (Alayhi Salaam) is for Angels and prophets. Not for the people. You don't even have a common sense
Shias loved this guy until this video was uploaded. 😬😂 Apart from that, I don't agree with Mufti in a lot of stuff, but to be fair, this might be the first time someone has explained the incident in such depth without actually going in details. You did really well. However, I do also think, even though Hussain (ra) got the political calculations wrong, it was a courageous and brave stand against tyranny. May Allah be pleased with him. ❤️
@Shaun Shaikh By political calculations, I meant trusting the Kufans who betrayed his father, Sayyiduna Ali (ra). I never said, because he got the calculations wrong it affects his status in any way. No! He's the leader of the Youth of Paradise along with Sayyiduna Hasan (ra), and nothing can change that. As mufti, if he would have joint Abdullah ibn Zubair (ra) they might have had created a big movement among the Muslims. But anyways, it happened, because Allah willed it. And to this day, his revolt remains as an act of Bravery, Courage and Truthfulness.
@@zinedineyzidane Do you have anything of worth to say as a comment? Do you wish to speak your mind and share with us what your opinions are the way the Mufti is sharing his? If not, I´m not sure why you say what you do because how are we to assess your comment if we don´t know what we are to use as a relative point.
1.when you know Family of Prophet (SAW) is on way the ruler being admin keeps in touch every second what’s goin on....& infact if in doubt of battalion surrounding them “another should have been sent ..rushed towards them so no evil takes place... 2.Khutba (khitab) of Prophet’ s Family in palace clears it...Mufti your lectures shows your clear heart & knowledge & its always admirable...but narrating specifically regarding “Karbala” ....dil dukha dya tumhary byan ny...you’re a logical person have some heart man to speak truth & so always called “”logic & context” ....Muslims do you know why man like Mufti too had to because when link your self with any firqa ...maliki bralivi ..bla bla only then it happens what Mufti did (gol mol jawab) ...so just “STAY & BE ONLY A MUSLIM” while doing JUSTICE & telling TRUTHS! ....stay blessed!
You mention that you discussed the history with Sunni schiloars but you did mention that you also discuss with Shia scholars... so having views from one side only is not doing justice as you know in case of hazarat Daood incident mention in Quran.... you are also taking islam as a political religion and not a dive religion.... so doing politics by Ameer Mavia is against theology of Islam... rather going back to Malookiat that is Kingship... plus the clver move done my Ameer Mavia to let down Hazarat Ali by his political negative moves to distrub him throughout his rule... So many negative mistakes by Ameer Mavia wont bother yoyu ??? Please read history of Yazid brought up... and his druken attitude and destrying islamic values... then why Ameer Mavia inspite of the agreement with hazarat Hassan tht he will not give rule to his son Yasid, but he did it??? I think its simple that decline of true islamic rule start ending with the rule of Ameer Mavia and so on Yasid... expanding rule or areas dosn't ... be fair to a level where it does not distrub thereality... I am bit disappointed by you on this very important topic actually where the downfall of islam started..... Open mind does not mean that you neglect the facts and saying of our Prophet.... do you believe teh Hadith that Hasan & Hussain are the sultan of Jannah ... and other hadith that are recognized by most of the factions in islam ??? I would suggest that you meeet other group as well and then make your judgement accordingly......
Hassan and Hussain are like twins.
If Hussein were in Hassan's place he would make a similar treaty with Muawiyah.. and this is why Hussein respected the peace treaty even after Hassan's death.
If Hassan were in Hussein's place, he would similarly oppose the forced allegiance to Yazid.. and this is why Hassan's children accompanied hussein to karbala..
Study the change in circumstances to understand the actions of the twins. They were both applying the prophet's teachings perfectly.
The same prophet who made a peace treaty at Hudaibiyah came back with an army when the treaty was broken by his enemies.
If you wish to know why the courageous Hassan declared peace and why the wise Hussein declared rebellion against the tyrant.. just study the circumstances!
The prophet s.a.w said in a well known saying..
"Hassan and hussein are leaders of the youth of paradise" (sahih)
Nicely said 👍
Very impressive
Very well put. You can oppose actively or passively a tyrant. You can practise patience if circumstances arise. Both Imam Hassan AS and Imam Hussain AS showed us the way.
Just your take off the same incidents that are a fact in history now
Purely for the fact that people who claimed to be Muslim massacred the prophets saw family as. No matter sunni or Shia that’s enough to change perspective on Yazid and Muawiyah. Mufti’s anthropological analysis of Karbala shows the importance and reality of mourning. In my opinion all Muslims should take part in this even if it is romanticised as it provides perspective on the oppression Muslims have faced.
What beautiful words. May Allah bless you.
@@mohsinasgarali thank you brother
Should we cry beat our selves and chant curses on sahaba? What about circumstances and wisdom? Or was that a sectarian rant?
@@noumanqureshi8489 no circumstance justifies the murder of the ahl al bayat. These are excuses shaitan whispers in your ears to misguide you. you throw stones at shaitan on hajj don't you? I don't think they should curse Sahaba but they should do something symbolically to remember that they are traitors and represent attributes traitors have. Beating the chest is a great remembrance. Nothing wrong with it. Drawing blood from yourself and all that violent stuff on the other hand is wrong.
Why didn't the prophet MOURN every year when his his uncle Hamza was martyred? Use your brain and logic and stop following people. Akkal not shakkal
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@@gravewalker_0125 u don't know what you're talking about. He was good guy & friends with hazrat prophet & hazrat ali. All the sahabas & ahl bayt were good friends amongst themselves & loved & looked after each other
@@scoobydo4528 friends are never family. today or in those days.
@@blackglitter1474 go to sleep. You need it
rather you are an idiot or does not know about the truth or real history,,, everything this guy spitting,, 90% of those are self fabricated,, like they all did in the past,, when they owned everything even forced the historians to write fouls hadiths and discribe them as good as posible..!! you need to learn more and read...
I am a Muslim but Sunnis are obsessed with Muawiyah, Yazid and Abu Sufiyan.
Instead of praising muaviya, you should have tell people what mess and atrocities he brought about in his era. Who murdered famous sahabi Hujar bin addi RA by the way??? Shame on you mufti for glorifying the satanic people who tried their best to cut roots of Islam.
@Dhuku 10 Ho you tart Nasibi. The Prophet SAWW cursed him and his jamaat is the inviter of hell.
Muawiya AS
very rational, logical and balance view of Karbala. No doubt it was the biggest tragedy of Islam which was an ultimate outcome of a series of events happent earlier.
Thats why I'm hold a strong view
"Keep religion seperate from politics". You see there was no
conflict/difference of opinion in the matter of Deen. All differences were political but ended up creating an ocean of difference in Deen.
I heard Our beloved Qazi Sahab’s view on Karbala. He thinks Hussein wanted the seat of power . But Hussein himself said that Wa innama kharajtu li talabi-l islahi fi ummaati jaddi” (Indeed, I am leaving Madinah to reform the ummah of my grandfather). He didn’t do it for power as our Qazi sahab has said. Hussein is not a foolish teenager.
Definitely.
@Wazza dan agree, im from Sunni family. But after research I'm Muslim. I take good thing from both school of thought as long as it is inline with Quran.
Definitely you will find the love and respect for ahlul bayat with shia school of thought.
@Zaid actually i see a lot of discussion about what Ibn Abbas, Muhammad Al-Hanfiyyah, etc said to him. Hussein did have a response. But I feel that his response has been completely sidelined. And people's opinion about him wanting to be king is just an opinion by people,, IMHO. Hussein said himself he didn't come out to seek power, he came out to reform the ummah of his grandfather.
@Zaid
Hussein and ibn Abbas had a lengthy discussion.. Don't jus listen to the begining of their discussion where ibn Abbas feels Hussein is facing danger..
Try instead to read the whole discussion..
Hussein's understanding of the situation was deep and wise.. Read about it in detail and find out how many sahaba supported Hussein's mission (including ibn Abbas and Umm Salamah the mother of the believers)
The tyrant had to be faced before he corrupts the whole story of Islam.. Hussein saw this earlier than his contemporaries..
If Hassan were in Hussein's place, he would do the same as Hussein did.. just the way hussein respected the treaty of Hassan with muawiyah before muawiyah broke it.
Try reading more about hussein from people who understand both the spiritual and the political part of his movement.
The prophet s.a.w says,, the best of jihad is saying the truth against a tyrant
افضل جهاد كلمة حق عند سلطان جاءر
The prophet s a.w also says, Hassan and Hussein are the leaders of the youth of paradise
@Dani Mendoza loool his a full on wobbler ignore him brother wahabis are all taught Islam with no love that’s where’re they fail to understand the martyrdom of imam Hussein to even say he was wrong for going shows the level love they have for him
What a FANTASTIC Talk. Mufti Well Done. Only if more people can listen to this. Allah's Blessings on you and your Family.
All those tons of books in the background are nothing if you don't understand Hussain. The blood of Hussain saved Islam during its most difficult time.
Bruh….stop over-lionising certain people, his death was a tragedy.
saved islam? lol ummayads ruled more than 60 years after yazid.
@@theibbe Ummayads had sieged Mecca twice under their caliphate. They demolished the Kaaba. They killed innocent people, looted money and oppressed people. There was no barakath(blessing) during the time of the Ummayads. Hussain was following merely what his Grandfather the prophet had taught him. To say Hussain made mistake his misunderstanding his cause.
@@theibbeunder ummayad rulership it was illegal to name your son Ali. The ummayads were tyrants other than Uthmaan may Allah be pleased with him and the actual sahaba that did not change after the prophets death.
@@mirrazashah8961 I’m glad Sunnis like us alive bro! Thanks for your comment here.
In history there is only one man that gave Zakat whilst in the state of rukooh
And that is Imam Ali Ibn Talib
His status is so elevated that he has enraged the enemies
His wisdom was beyond comprehension
When he says “salooni. Salooni, Kabla ant’afkadoonee”
“ask me, ask me before you miss me!”
Why did he say that?
Because he has already been endowed with this wisdom
He has been endowed with this knowledge for you and I to follow
But he is not just a man of wisdom…
He is a man of action
You and I brothers and sisters should be muslims of action
The name of Ali Ibn Abu Talib is ‘Sha’er Allah’
It is Dhikr!Dhikr of Allah.
To mention the name of Imam Ali is dhikr of Allah
Because when you look at him, he does nothing but take you to Allah
He never takes you to himself
He never says worship me
He never says how great I am
He never does any of that
He keeps taking us to the prophet and Allah
So why should he not be remembered?
Why should we not remember him?
Why should we not mention him?
Why should we not live like him?
Live like the prophet. Stop making other peoples prophets. The prophet PBUH sons didn't live because he was the last prophet. Stop idlolising his family.
Destiny was determined, prophet Mohammad AS was informed of this incident in his life in advance and shown the place where his beloved grandson will be martyred and he cried..
Remembrance is in different ways, silent and tearful from victims and sympathizers , emotional and loud from the guilty and remorseful ..the guilt carries on eating the conscious for generations.
Whats ur source?
Suggest you stick to the fiqh bro, don't get into history that you can not coraborate, you use reason to explain the hadith, but the reason seems to have been set aside when you try to explain the history, you definitely seem to be explaining it not standing on hazrat Imam Hussain's side. May Allah give you insight into the historic events, and open your heart to the love of ahl ul bait.
Mufti i respect you a lot but do you think that Abu Safyan battle with the Prophet pbuh
Muwaiya battle with Ali, and martyrdom of Hasan in his time and many other companions like Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr, Hujar ibn Adi, cursing of Ali on mimbar, bloodsheds
And Martyrdom of Hussain at time of Yazid, Harra in which Madina was looted, shooting kaaba is just a co incidence????
The world ain't perfect , these things happened because of politics of that time ............ Grow up and forget about the past and focus on today
u missed a lot of key points. Imam Hussain said to Ibn Abbas "if I stay in Makkah, they will kill me here, for I do not want to cause bloodshed in the holy sanctity of the Kaabah"
@Shaun Shaikh the prophet preaching Islam itself was considered a rebellion. Ur wrong there. The Makkans heads all condemned the prophet for preaching. The only reason he left was because Abu Talib RA passed away and his protection was gone. He then went to Madina formed an army and went to war with the very same Makkans... Rebellions are permitted when the ruler is corrupt and unfit to lead.
"I don't think yazid would want to kill him" but he did kill him do you not get it he killed the prophet's beloved grandson
So now what then? What should we do? If thr prophet knew it, why have you a problem with it happening? According to you kind of people we should talk more about ahle Bayt than the Quran and the prophet
No sources say they were a couple hundred. The minimum that has been mentioned is 4000 men including cavalry.
I think more than twenty thousand because the focus of 4000 is only on Omar bin Saad's convoy.
@Dhuku 10 Which sources. Please name some.
@Dhuku 10 Hey Nasai wasn't a historian. Secondly I am asking from which formative and classical sources you are quoting your delusions.
@Dhuku 10 Secondly Hastings is who? A historian like Abu Hanifa Dinawari, Tabari, Ibn Kathir?
@Dhuku 10 Give us historical references moron
the things that stands apart is there was no shura after Abu Bakr, just direct appointment of Umar, same thing for Uthman, a group of seven is selected to elect and then Ali appoints no one? How can the last religion of God come without clear guidance and instruction for leadership? Especially when that leadership announces decrees such as banning Hadith writing, preservation of the Quran and other critical edicts that will have an enormous effect on Islam. Even the way we wash our arms in Wudhi is consistent and OCD yet leadership is open to the whims of whoever is in power?
As far as Uthman's nepotism, it is what it is, not appointing competent governors just relatives. If you're going to represent the final religion of God on earth I would at least expect some sort of Justice with such decisions.
Nothing wrong with nepotism if they people appointed are qualified. Even Ali RA appointed his relatives as governors. In hectic time, sometimes it is best to have trustable blood relations in positions of power
Its the fact that the majority of sunnis have been told lies and deceived into it being a shura or some sort of ‘fair’ democratic voting system when thats far from the truth. Also it would make sense if the Prophet pbuh appointed Abu bakr himself to be be his successor and then Abu bakr appoints the next person after him- like you said about nepotism. Because then that would be an order from Allah with no mistakes, and then we would not have corrupt rulers like yazid. But this was not the case. Therefore Islamically such thing does not work. It is not logical to keep Islams fallible successors up to the people. Allah has always left previous prophets with divinely chosen successors, it is the sunnah of Allah to choose who would succeed. It was never just up to people.
@Sam E leadership isn't a religious issue? name one person that was made a prophet based on shura, or anything declared halal/haram based on shura
Thoroughly enjoyed the clarity of discussion and the objection maintained.
From my research into this topic, I have found that you have absolutely accurately captured the events of Karbala. And Almighty knows best.
Warm regards
Ubay the Govenor of Kufa was a tyrant and he would not allow any Kufans to help Hadrath Hussain R. A. and his party.
Killing Muslim bin Akheel and the person who helped him was Tortured is a proof that Ubay would not allow the Kufans or ( Shia to Ali) to help Hadrath Hussain’s party. The Kufans or Shia to Ali were threathened and forced not to help Hussain, So how can you miss this fact and simply accuse the Kufans for not standing up for Hadrat Hussain. If only Sunni Scholars admit this fact and stop accusing the Kufans then the whole narration will be so balanced and factual. Why do Sunni Scholars just use the accusation and make the oppressed Kufans or Shia to Ali look so mean and treacherous. I am Sunni and will protest this point of narration in Karbala’s sad Event. If Kufans were not threatened and Ubay had not killed Muslim bin Akheel ( Hussain’s cousin and the person who gave shelter to him was not tortured ) My 100% assessment is that they would have helped Hadrat Hussain. So Sunni Scholars please stop and look into Ubay’s Brutal behaviour towards Kufans and mention this point rather than blaming the Kufans.
I don´t think the Kufans or any of those in the surroundings who were sympathetic to Ali and supported Husseins cause were treated unjustly. The sources already from back then clearly show that people had even before Hussein left warned or discouraged him from seeking help from the Kufans and instead asking him to turn to the Yemenis. I don´t see this as something conspiratorial or controversial to find it like this. If one wishes to think of "what ifs" it would be better to ask oneself why Hussein didn´t stay with Abdullah ibn Zubair and support him against Yazid. Imagine the combination of the grandson of Abu Bakr with the grandson of the Prophet. Given that there was discontent with Yazid and his clear inability to govern wisely, they could have been a formidable challenge to the Banu Umayya. Both militarily and politically.
Those are a people who have passed away; theirs is that which they earned and yours that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do.
2:141 Quran
Mufti should do a video on ghadeer khumm next
He has
He has
After Dr Israr's explanation of Karbala, I think Mufti's give a good overview of the historical context. I've also seen Dr TUQ's version, but he doesn't explain the background, but rather just talks about it from an emotive point of view about the death. Must take a lot of research to give the background of the event, rather than play on emotions of the awaam.
Also Dr Asrar mentions this narrative of Islam became rejuvenated after Karbala is false. Islam was always there and it never died.
This is almost 100 % inline with ibn Taymiya's view or what benu umaya want us to belive. I don't think you did unbaised good research here ☹👎
I highly suggest , the following book:
After the Prophet, The Epic Story of the Shia-Sunni Split in Islam
by Lesley Hazleton
Mufti is a great guy, but he is a little "naughty naughty" when it comes to Muawiya.
@Zayed Haroon wala Ana mu shia, alhamdulillah ana Muslim.
Fatimah the lady of God’s paradise,
‘Ali the warrior, the leader, the wise.
Hassan, the heir of eternal lore,
Hussain, the martyr, the heaven’s door.
lol calm down they are just regular people. The way the shia describe Islam and characters in it. it sounds like you are talking about divine beings from greek mythology. idiots
*"PEACE BE UPON YOU,* O Abu l-Qasim; Peace be with you O al-Abbas b. Ali!"
*"O FLAGBEARER OF KARBALA,* O fulfiller of our prayer, *"PEACE BE UPON YOU!"*
Allah's Messenger: *"FATIMA* is a part of *ME,* and *WHOEVER* makes her *ANGRY,* makes me *ANGRY."*
-Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)*
- Bukhari 3729 (62,114) or (v5,57,11)
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*"FATIMA,* the daughter of Allah's Messenger got *ANGRY* and *STOPPED* speaking to Abu Bakr, and CONTINUED assuming that attitude till *SHE DIED"*
-Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)*
-Bukhari 3092, 3093 (57,2) or (v4,53,325)
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Allah's Messenger: *"NO DOUBT,* FATIMA is a part of *ME,* I hate to see her being troubled. *BY ALLAH,* the daughter of Allah's Messenger and the *DAUGHTER of ALLAH'S ENEMY* cannot be the wives of one man."
-Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)*
-Bukhari 3729 (62,77) or (v5,57,76)
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*"BY ALLAH,* the DAUGHTER of Allah's Messenger [Fatima] *CANNOT BE COMBINED* with the DAUGHTER of *GOD'S ENEMY* [WHO IS SHE?]" -(EVERYONE KNOWS - there's only *ONE WOMAN* he could be talking about)
-Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)*
-Muslim 2449d (44,140) or (v6,31,6002)
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*"FATIMAH bint Muhammad* is a part of *ME,* and I hate to see her faced with troubles. **BY ALLAH,** the DAUGHTER of *THE MESSENGER of Allah* (saw) and the DAUGHTER of *THE ENEMY of ALLAH* will **NEVER** *BE JOINED TOGETHER"* - WOW!!!
-Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)*
-Sunan Ibn Majah 1999 (v3,9,1999) or (9,2007) or (11,1999)
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Allah's Messenger: *"FATIMA* is a part of *ME,* and I hate what she hates to *SEE,* and *WHAT HURTS HER, HURTS ME."*
-Grade: Sahih *(Authentic)*
-Bukhari 5230 (67,163) or (v7,62,157)
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the 'Messenger of Allah said: *"'ALI IS FROM ME* and *I AM FROM 'ALI.* And *NONE* should represent me *EXCEPT MYSELF OR 'ALI*
-Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3719 (v1,46,3719) or (49,4085)
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*"ABU BAKR* was a *RICH businessman,* who later became one of the *FIRST CONVERTS* to Islam and *EXTENSIVELY* contributed **HIS WEALTH** in support of Muhammad's work. He then became Muhammad's *FATHER-in-law* through his *DAUGHTER AISHA,* and would soon become the world's *FIRST CALIPH* (Head Ruler of Islamic State in ALL matters)" -wikipedia -'Abu Bakr' summary
Shame on you rafidi.
The woman mentioned negativly in those hadith are about the daughter of a disbeliever that ali wanted to marry alongside Fatimah. The noble prophet disapproved of the marriage.
So you are taking them out of context, shame on you and you will get no goodness out of it.
Allah bless Muhamed, his family and the companions. Those who Part from these 3 are disconnected.
Shame on you.
"The Children of Umayad shall ascend to my pulpit. I have seen them in my dreams jumping on my pulpit like monkeys."
Then the Prophet said that the following verse was revealed about the Umayad:
And We made that dream, which We have shown you, only as a test to the people and the cursed tree in the Qur’an. And We warn them but it only increases their extreme transgression! (17:60)
true and today Karbala and Kufa are Shia majority locations. Amazing
@@blackglitter1474 because you come from the same people who martyred imam Hussain RA
A lot of historical issues in Mufti's presentation here ... for example al-Harra and the uprising of Madina came after Hussayn's martyrdom, it was one of the less talked about things which led to it. And of course that "the Shia" were the ones responsible is nonsense. There were many factions and tribes in Kufa ... it was a very complicated situation.
But could you ever imagine Umar ibn alKhattab agreeing with Mufti that Yazid, the ruler at the time, was _not_ the most responsible? ... Never. Could almost hear Umar frown
@Dhuku 10
Do you know who these "Kufans" are? Do you know which tribes lived there? Who their leaders were? What links they had? Who were their influencers? What was their history up to that point? Who were they allied with? What were the family connections? What messages they sent out? etc ... There were over 20'000 people minimum living in Kufa, and they weren't all the same. Generally there were 3 groups
1- sincere supporters who wanted to and would have supported but we're prevented. Ibn Ziyad had blocked the city and had soldiers on all the roads leafing out and declared a curfew. They also never thought, like most, th st Hussain would actually be killed. They saw the current situation as lost and hoped there would be another and a chance and opportunity. These later rose up in rebellion and vengeance in the movement of am-mukhtar and his "army of the repentant" because they saw that they should have tried to reach Hussain even if they had been killed. We know which tribal leaders and influencers and which people belonged to this group
2 - weak supporters who wanted to but made excuses for themselves and were cowardly. They never rose up later nor were they ever truly fully committed supporters, they lacked the determination and were those who wanted to and would support, but only so long as others did first. Again, we know who these were.
3 - those who wanted/invited Hussain to come so they could and did betray him and in order to gain favour with Banu Ummaya. More often these were the leaders of the tribes who were worldly and wanted power wealth and position, and because the mentality was still incredibly tribal at the time, their tribes obeyed them. And yes we know the names of these hypocrities too.
And of course dividing them into just 3 groups is to keep it simplistic. In reality every tribal group was different in some way. Some even wanted to support Hussain fully but in the hopes of receiving positions of honor in his Caliphate once established. These were few because it was known that Hussain, like his brother and father before him could not be induced to favouritism, so most of this ambition wanted to ingrain themselves with Mu'awiya's son.
So it isn't that simple as just throwing out "in general the Kufans never intended" to support Hussain. There were factions who did, factions who didn't, and various degrees in between.. And for a time Muslim bin 'Aqeel had a lot of power and had established a base, and took bay'ah from thousands ... but the afore mentioned group 3 betrayed him and them to seek favour with the Ummayads, group 2 then became fearful and weakened and group 1 were prevented, held hostage directly or by proxy of their families or killed.
Take a lesson from the Sahaba who fought at Badr, Uhud and Khandaq ... they weren't all of one level or mind in support of the Prophet against Quraysh. The Qur'an gives us the full picture rather than the rosy one of Hadiths and Seera; some were cowardly, some turned their backs and ran, some didn't want to fight, some were in kahoots with Quraysh, some left the battlefield, some listened to the hypocrities, some were closer to kufr than emaan, even the true believers became split into two groups because of them, some disobeyed when they saw "what they loved", some wanted the dunya while others the aakhira, some kept running not caring about anything even while the Messenger was calling them back, etc etc
To paint all the kufans with the same brush just means one thing; you haven't truly studied the situation and don't know the most relevant players nor their histories, backgrounds and motives.
@Dhuku 10
No, on the whole "they" weren't. Some of the leaders were. And it only takes a few inside traitors to destroy a movement. Information is power and just a few betrayers to an enemy can cause great loss
Your "oh what a surprise" remark about the Kufans and Kufa just shows that you've swallowed the Ummayad propaganda against that city and which seeped into the mentality of the scholars in the same way extreme "anti-Shia" views did, whereas Nasibis were ignored.
Kufa and the Kufans had in fact the most vestiges and remains of true Islam, and they never all rolled over and gave up to the tyrants like the rest of the Ummah, including Madina, did. They fought on for Islam both physically and intellectually. True fiqh started in Kufa, three (really more) of the seven Qur'an recitations came from Kufa, the founder of true Hadith studies via jarh and ta'deel, Shu'ba's school, was in Kufa ... that and more.
All because Kufa was the last seat of the Khilafa al-Rashida, Ali gave over 500 khutbas there, and before him they had been taught and learnt from another of the great sahaba, Abdulla bin Mas'oud.
So don't be so naive and realise that history is written by the victors who vilify those who stood against them. The victors were the Ummayads.
There is no "putting simply" such a complicated history, and definitely not with propaganda.
@Dhuku 10
As you like.
I see now that all you have is sectarian bigotry.
They put Ali 4th on their list and they say they have love for the ahulbayt don’t make me laugh
That is some idiotic logic
@Zaid you obv never heard of saqiffah and how they chose the leadership while imam Ali was doing gussal over the prophets body seriously open a page in Bukhari you may learn something about your own beliefs
@Shaun Shaikh it isnt when you look at the fact there was no mention of a caliphate yet you guys promote that crap
@Zaid no u can't love his oppressors, nor can u love him equally to the other sahabis, there's no command from god to have mawada in abu bakr so i don't get where you got your "we love them all the same" ideas from, it amazes me that sunnis still think we're living the era of the rashidun and u must "love" him else you're executed...
No we don’t put Ali on 4th we put him on first. You have wrong concept about Sunni Islam ☪️ we explore political aspects.
I am new listener to you , extremely disappointed with your analysis, the fact you are giving benefit of doubt to Yazid LA, who slaughtered the prophet’s family, a very irrational analysis from a rational Alim , not sure why our Sunni brothers continue to defend people who systematically slaughtered prophet’s family. I pray that one day you will do some further research and change your mind, may Allah bless you , I still love you !
You want us to abandon rational and truth and start cursing everyone you curse? All the sahaba and pray to Allah with curses? Doesn't make sense.
Why are shia brothers worshipping humans and cursing all the time,?
Still love you
@@noumanqureshi8489 ,
From your writing I understand you are a sectarian sunni.
There's no a single letter of the brother that says someone should be cursed or to be insulted. Mufti says r.t.a. after the names of those who "islamised" for personal gains. And the brother said L.A. after the same names.
Hold your decision.
So did I understand correctly Mufti Abu Layth? You praise and admire the son of Abu Sufyan, who was one of the biggest enemies of Islam and the prophet (pbuh)? Let us not forget who his mother was. Hind ate the liver of the prophets uncle. Yazid was insane and made a massacre on the Ahlulbait (a.s).
So, just looking on the people who gave birth to Muawiyah and the guy who is his son, you can clearly see that this guy is definitively someone who should not be considerd a sahaba or a just person.
Mufti, I respect you. As a shia I do not only respect you but the whole sunni community. But you should definitely do more research. If we Muslims do not accept our black and bloody history, we are doomed to repeat this bloody history. And thats what I see today. I find it horrible that some sunni people doesn't care about the early beginning of islamic history. Whatever went wrong at that time, people are rejecting it and saying everything went fine and it was paradise. And if there are undeniable facts like kerbala, some sunnis just don't want to be confronted with that. It's sad.
The individuals that follow Shiasm doctrine are the killers of Hadhrat Hussain radi allahu anhu, please stop 'white-washing' your malicious Jewish history... Abdullah bin Sabah is your lord and savior. You have misused ahl e bait.. majority of proclaimed sayed Shia were slaves of Hadhrat Hasan and Hussain after they passed away. You are essentially our run away slaves that were the property of Ahl e bayt, like the African slaves took the names of their slave masters, you misuse our bloodline for your own benefit. Sharam karo. Maafi aur taubah karo.. look at the faces of majority Shia ahl e bayt, you look like yajuj majuj. You are the progeny of our run away slaves, astighfirullah
The fact your on a battlefield against Hussein or Ali is the part I will never understand ? Yazeed makes ibn ziyaad a governor doesn’t that give a clue on his intentions ? Mufti I like ya but you don’t half talk cack at times 😂
@@braveheart8318 why was Ali in battle ? Who started the war? When the enemies come banging on your door and disrupt peace in Islam for no other reason than power you wouod sit down and let them ? And how dare you even raise a sword at imam Ali do you not know of what he has done for Islam more than any other man in Islam andddd the prophet confirmed his status at ghadeer and you question why he went to battle ? Wow you really are a Sunni
@@braveheart8318 you need two to tango lol? So when the prophet went to battle with Abu sufian that makes him wrong to ? The crap that comes out your gobs
Just to defend people like yazeed and muawiyah just to defend Sunnism is so wrong and pathetic ! And what is Aisha doing on the battles field against Ali in the first place ???? Does she not know of the virtues of Ali ? Your narrations tell you his the most narrated sahabi in your books which were narrated by Aisha ???!
@@braveheart8318 mufti just told you yazeed attacked medina the house of the prophet ??? And your questioning why Ali went to battle ??? And when Hassan made peace with muawiyah part of that peace treat was not to give his caliphate to yazeed well Look how that turned out !
@@braveheart8318 the prophet said about Ali in your books
Ali is from me and I am from Ali.”
“Ali is the first person to believe in my Prophet hood and will be the first person to meet me on the Day of Judgment.”
“I am the city of knowledge and Ali is its door. He who wants to gain knowledge should come through the door.”
@@braveheart8318 your right your the whole of the sunnism is a farce and we don’t need much to dismantle it all you need to do is get
You guys to read your own books and stop being sheep you’ll leave sunnism I. A second
Also bit off topic but is it possible to believe in the significance of the 4 caliphate Rashidun and Imamah or do these conflict with each other
very conflicting, imamah is divine appointment by god, 4 caliphate is shura appointment by people
Caliph and Imam are different.
Truth is Ali is the first Imam and rightful first Caliph but Abu Bakr was literally the first Caliph. And then the other 3 Caliphs after him were the Caliphs. It cannot be denied.
So yes you can believe in both and you can't hate either. Ingeneral you have to hate those that are enemies and undermine the status of Imams and the responsibility of a Caliph.
Meaning yazeed was caliph but he did not do justice to his given and appointed responsibility.
He killed the Imam.
The other 3 Caliphs were not in warfare with Imam Ali (AS) and that should speak volumes.
@Shaun Shaikh You need sources, but also look at the muslim population, especially in Sufism were both the Calpihs and the Imams are respected greatly, imo thats the best way to go as it avoids dispute. Qandeel is right imo
@Shaun Shaikh this is politics and spirituality have to be separated.
All I know is that winners write history. Truth is always silenced. And we need to aim for what is the best for the community.
And you asked for sources. And like there are 2 things that came to mind. One was the 3rd Caliph was being attacked by the people and Imam Hassan (AS) and Imam Hussain (AS) were sent to guard the door to his house. And the 3rd Caliph was later found murdered. So respect for the political authority is implied there.
Another issue is that ever since the verses came down when lady Aisha was being slandered because she was left behind by accident and returned late at night.
To silence the people because they were always agitators and those that followed the Prophet (PBUH) but only to at times test and trouble him. Imam Ali (AS) said to tell the people you will* divorce her but after the divine revelations.
Lady Aisha and her father since then have been at odds with Iman Ali (AS) for even mentioning divorce. But truth be told that Lady Aisha and Umar's Daughter had upset the Prophet (PBUH) numerous times and almost ended up being close to getting divorced.
These are personal sentiments that got twisted and politicised.
And these things do not matter to muslims now because they are not political matters. The only thing to take from this event is the 4 witnesses to prove slander.
And we can see in current times how it is used so disgustingly. That a rape victim has to bring forth 4 witnesses to prove her pain and yet she still gets punished.
The 4 verses were not meant to be used like that at all ! It was to be used as if you are accusing a person if sin. Especially Zina then 4 witnesses should come forward and say so.
Islam started out as a social reform and this is why the Caliphs literally have had more power and money and influence. Because it something that any man can manage.
But Imamate is about knowing hidden knowledge. They were incharge of spirituality more so then political or social or economic control.
People can make mistakes and under pressures elect a wrong leader/Caliph. But Prophethood and Imamate have always been chosen by God alone. We need to then set our worldly and social affairs in order so we can then work on and improve our spirituality and then be able to recognize the true divine guidance from the real divinely chosen people. We cannot see truth when we are in turmoil within ourselves. And I believe there is no exact names to be said to call out the enemies of Islam. There is satan, abu lahab and there is yazid.
So we need fight against people who fall under the umbrella of their treacherous ways and cruelty. We must be against evil and dispell it so we can know what the truth. But we need to humble ourselves and realize only God now can tell us what's evil and truth. I believe sense of right and wrong is the real Quran and it is in all our hearts.
Issues with bad leaders is that they corrupt the souls of their followers. They make their followers act in ways that in normality they would have never.
I am inclined towards Shia-ism now but literally I never seen anything were they curse the Sahabas. It makes no sense. They believe the hadiths on somethings are not accurate and that goes for their own books too. So they discard it. This is why they are also open to discuss and even encouraged to seek out about other religions and their teachings. Like in the past Prophets and imams and walis can be in any place and time and of any religion. We have much to learn from one another.
2.30 Absolutely untrue Mufti, Shia was not political but the followers of the Prophet (PBUH).
How come Makkah was not popular in those days. I thought people cane to Makkah from every place coz It always had Kaabah in Makkah. 😍
Exactly! If Makkah was not popular, why did ABRAHA attack it with elephants?
Totally agree! You could have also talked about the treaty that Hasan (RA) had.
The comment section is quite something here, it's either these rafidi claiming muawiya a disbeliever, even if he did error in fighting with Ali, as the haq is with Ali.
You get these nasibi types disrespectong imam Hussain, who is the leader of the youth of jannah.
May Allah bless this ummah with love for the ahlul bayt and respect for the sahaba.
Who put yazeed in power ? Your beloved muawiyah !
The people who put him there were the original Nasibi
@Dani Mendoza it’s in Sunni books that he cursed Ali they even praise him sunnism is just wrong
all emotional, as usual.
@Dani Mendoza thank you at last we have a brother whose on the right path exactly ! If you knew everything you needed to know about the prophets family and people raised their swords against them you would automatically go to the side of the truth
@Dani Mendoza 100 per cent brother I don’t agree with the hitting yourself with chains etc and most shiasnfeel the same but I could never be a Sunni to many sheep never read a page of Bukhari just been taught whatever their masters bark at them hence their love for the dog muawiyah
Overall an indepth analysis.
One slight disagreement. Shias who invited him , the main Shia sahaba were martyred before the Karbala event by the cunning ibn e ziad .
Great clip and very informative as usual but there seems to be too many ads than usual.
@Dear Layth, Will u agree that it started the day Abu Sufyan converted under duress,he waited for the Right time, Right time came into third generation, I dont believe Mr Abu Sufyan was a Muslim with sincere heart but under no option.?
And how is Hassan more wiser than imam Ali lol? Your own Hadiths day prophet is the city of knowledge and imam Ali is its gateway ?
Did
You just say how did mAwiyah start the war Lool oh god brother go with haq then look at the people not the other way around
@Siraj Haq seriously brother do your research there’s only one question I ask if you were given the choice whose side would you battle for and I think that answers your question
@Zayed Haroon it’s ok sunis are actually starting to read their own books and coming over to us so cry all you want the days where your salafi teachers telling you what to do or say are coming to a end not even sure why you call yourself a Sunni if you haven’t even read 10 per cent of your own Hadiths blind following 😂
@Siraj Haq tell me where he made a Mistake in this situation didn’t the prophet say the haq is with Ali ? Your books again read it dummy ! And if Aisha and mAwiyah new the haq was with Ali why the hell wouod you raise a army to fight against Ali it’s all there in front of you - your just defending your school of thought over the truth simple as and what does Allah say about the wife’s and not to show or display themselves in public and you got Aisha on the battlefield we don’t need to curse sahaba or anyone Allah has already told you wha he will do to those who go against him your just to blind to see it
@Fahad Alam Bukhari talks about the prophet having wet dreams and prophet Moses running after a rock naked ???? Difference we dismiss silly Hadiths you guys hold Bukhari as some
Kind of saint like all his narrations are gospel that’s the difference
Karbala is one of the many tragedies that followed from the fact that there is no clear instruction or frame work given by the Quran or the Prophet on how to attain political power, how to exercise it, power sharing, the structure of a state, what its goals are, how to hold it to account, how to transfer that power once the time comes and what the role is of the individual in relation to this political power (what we today refer to as civic identity, which is equality infront of the law in regards to both rights and obligations). Instead this seems to have been left to the people with only the guiding light of the princples of the Quran and the analysis of the various riwayaat of Hadith and Sira and Sunnah in general. Which of course is all a human exercise in interpretative analysis and deduction.
Some might say this lack of clarity and structure as mentioned above is an oversight or even a mistake on the part of the Prophet and God, if one believes both to exist and have any such role to begin with. But another perspective on this is that it may have been not just a mercy but actually a very astute and wise decision to not fixate or exactly dilineate these processes and concepts making them the only option for the forseeable future of planet Earth if you are Muslim. Yes. The principles are there and can be derived from the Quran and if guided by these Quranic principles, the Sunnah/Hadith can support this process. But what exactly comes out of this process is very much guided and determined by the people, who they are and the times they live in. So in that sense, avoiding to chisel into stone as it were an exact process and structure of what an "islamic" society governed by political power with individual members/citizens should look like, with no leeway, no room for accomodation or flexibility in the light of realities such as differences in culture, ethnic/religious composition, in neighbours, in geography, in financial or material standing or in the light of natural disasters or other calamities and so on is actually a very important ability to have.
Study the life of the ahlulbayt imams if you wish to understand political Islam.. otherwise you will just get trapped in fabricated hadith designed to keep tyrants in power..
The prophet's teachings about politics are clear but the ruling class did alot of interference after him..
So whenever it gets cloudy, just study the lives of his true representatives to get a clear understanding
@@safinahighschool2179
It is not that clear cut, Safina High School. Not at all. If it were, we would not be having these kinds of discussions today. The matter is neither clarified nor resolved when consulting the Quran and the Prophets sayings and doings.
Even now, among the Shia, the idea of political power is not universally agreed on. You have those who abide by the Velayet-e-Faqih and you have those who say that such rule is only reserved for the Imams. Given that the 12th went into occultation or hiding if you are from the twelvers, those who object to V-e-F say simply that there is no 13th Imam named Khomeini or 14th named Khamenei. So rest assured, the matter of political power and the relation it has to the subjects I listed is not clarified by God or the Prophet even when you involve the claimed Imams as a third party source or continuation of the Imamate of the Prophet.
Have you come about this certainty about the matters you mention by your own careful scrutiny of the sources or have you been given this information? I would appreciate you sharing this. It would help create understanding.
you sound like a free-thinker, watch fadak tv and i'll guarantee it will answer all your doubts
@Shaun Shaikh in nahj al balaga there is a letter from Imam Ali to the governor of Egypt on how to govern.
@Shaun Shaikh it’s a RUclips channel with over 7k videos so literally every question answered and every topic addressed, sheikh Yassir Habib does most the lectures and its in Arabic tho there are a view of his lectures with Arabic subtitles on rafidha RUclips channel, hope u enjoy!
I m a berber. And i love jou telling the treu
Seriously open to critique.
It’s not the worst I’ve heard though.
I noticed same when my dad passed away, everyone became a leader lol
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You missed out a few precursors Mufti Sahib. Notably the event of Ghadeer in which the Prophet appointed Ali as his successor, the event of Black Thursday in which Ibn Abbas narrates how Umar thwarted the Prophet from writing his will and of course how Saqifa commenced whilst the Prophet's body was having ghusl done on it by Ali and the Hashemites.
I just have one question for you. Do you really think the Prophet would not have chosen a successor or left inheritance for his child?
You're a rationalist and a logical man. Use it.
Please please.. check your sources.
@@shaan1001 everything he said was true, all verified by salafi Ulama. A simply RUclips search will show you what he said was true with q and a with assim al Hakim. I'm not even shia but it upsets me that we Sunnis defend muawiyah and yazeed. Genuinely, how can we stand with people who went against the prophets family? Especially muawiyah against Ali, do you not know how Ali KW was martyred? About how he was supposed to meet muawiyah but muawiyah suddenly became I'll?
I'm losing brain cells just watching this
You brought in Bukhari, why not accept another Bukhari gem, When a kid is conceived,Angel asks Allah, Male or Female, What about his/her Provision. Age and above all, Blessed or Wretched,? every thing is Pre ordained,?I would love ur response on this hadith for sure, I only agree with you that politics is a dirty game across the board historically established, exceptions can not be rule.What is difference between Islam and other dynasties.?I think, by this yardstick,Muslims pogrom by our present PM Modi will have to be accepted as normal, he rose from governor to prime ministership.
You are describing the karbala incident from a story book . Why don't you rely on authentic hadith to describe the incidents. Stories or tarikh are written by people which has no chain of authority.
Do you understand the difference between rightly guided caliph and a tyrant ruler. How easily you undermined the efforts of Hazrat Ali to bring things on right track? If Hussain had given the bayah to yazeed then his rule would have been legitimise. I am deeply disappointed by the lectures, you are just repeating the same old stories which comes from that damn story book.
Not an intellectual analysis.
Same as salafi wahabi ideology.
You are accepting some theory from the historian and rejecting some. Why? Oh because I don't feel so.
Total talk is rubbish and based on your feeling and assumptions.
Do muftis wear shirts like that ?
Ma Sha Allah, What a great way of explaining things.
This guy is pure fitna stop watching him..haven’t watched the video but already know this guy has an apologetic position towards yazid(im sunni)..I saw one of his videos where he was downplaying black magic like it didn’t really exist to suit his own western narrative that things like that don’t actually exist even though it’s mentioned clearly in the Quran.. secondly isn’t it frowned upon to wear things that would make u resemble a woman(earring)... I have no problem with people wearing earrings but a mufti really? Lol.. some mufti he is trust me he’s doing more bad than good
@Sam E I’ll need source of hazrat Hussein wearing earrings
Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah cursed men who wear womens clothes and women who wear mens clothes. (Reported by Abu Dawood in al-Sunan, Kitaab al-Libaas, Baab fi libaas al-nisaa). On this basis, it is not permitted for men to wear earrings or nose-rings.
The kinds of female adornment known among Quraysh and others includes earrings, bracelets, anklets and bangles worn on the upper arm. The point is that these are known as forms of womens adornment since ancient times.
Also it mentions imam Malik wore earrings as a kid when he wanted to be a singer.. we don’t know if he took them off as an adult when he came towards Islam
I want to know what it means when you say black magic occurs but not in a folkloric way?
What happen to your beard mufti sahab
Well they couldn’t really be Shia if they betrayed Hussain as they claimed to be Shia buy are not
Yes this is my point. Pkease read my comment. They were forced to not to help Hussain and the scholars don’t talk about this and simply blame the kufans for decievi ng Hussain. I don’t understand this explainination???
The whole religion is now practised on the scholars personal interpretations, agendas and biased views.. Corruptioon and filth everywhere. 🔥🔥🔥
@@mustikhan7512 mate, mufti is right though. It's history, the past events are done now. Pure absolute truth is probably impossible to find as history and scholarly input has change the narratives. So all that remains are interpretation of facts. Sunni and Shia will always exist, it is about accepting difference and co-exisiting as one ummah.
Shia means to follow if they weren’t on the side of imam Hussein in Karbala they clearly weren’t Shia ? It’s not hard to understand really and where were the 85 per cent so called Sunnis ????
many shias wanted to be there but thousands were massacred and imprisoned, and the mecans and medinians also wanted to kill him so it's not just the shias fault
And where were the “ 85 % sunis” when hussien was threatened in medina and Mecca ?? Oh they were Shia to right ?
Many of the Muslims of that era actually began to rally around Abdullah ibn Zubayr in Mecca. The reasoning presented here is that perhaps Hussein should have seen a brighter future in remaning with ibn Zubayr in Mecca. As Abu Layth states, there were several instances recorded that people close to Hussein told him not to go. There were many who were displeased with Yazid and his rule and given a figure from the household of Muhammad supported by the grandson of one of the most important Sahaba could have meant a very real political challenge. Instead, things unfolded very differently.
@@seletarroots3258 Are you on Drugs?? How can you be so naïve to suggest that Hussain Ibn Ali and Abdullah Ibn Zubair had equal merits?
@Shaun Shaikh
Based on my reading of this part of early islamic history, it is clear the real opposition as in the most organised and motivated was found in Mecca. Medina too was seething at the Banu Umayya. That´s where the resistance should have formed and had the most likely chance to succeed. If the Kufans were serious about getting rid of the Umayya, the rise of Mecca followed by Medina under the leadership of Hussein, seconded by ibn Zubayr would have been the signal for their own uprising. One needn´t be a political genius to make this qualified guess. Typically this is exactly how such uprisings occurr.
To leave your powerbase and safe haven like Hussein did and wander with a small contingent towards your enemies powerbase is not sound. Neither politically nor militarily. Kufa was in the firm hands of the Umayya led by that cruel and power hungry governor of theirs. He had already subdued Basra in the harshest and cleverest of ways. He was not an unknown. There was this aspect of underestimating your enemy too.
The despair the Meccans felt at Hussein leaving is, in my opinion, the forgotten tragedy. He was their only realistic cause. I mean ibn Zubayr was the grandson of Abu Bakr but Abu Bakrs oldest son was still alive. His claim to the "Throne" would have been far stronger than the grandson, who also was the grandson on his mothers side which to the Arabs of the time was not as strong as being so on the fathers side. So I find claims, mentioned in some sources, that he was coveting the Caliphate for himself to be highly dubious. Even more so if Hussein was by his side in Mecca. It would make far more sense to bolster Husseins claim, as being the grandson of the Prophet who´s father also had been the Caliph weighs far more. There really is no comparing them. So ibn Zubayr would have been by Husseins side. But what did Hussein do? Well, AL Memon mentioned "naive". I think that would be a good start to describe what Hussein decided to do.
End of the day, what does one learn from this history and what are the takeaways for todays situation? This is a far more important and pertinent question than discussing exactly who did what in the past.
@Shaun Shaikh
"There are three sides to every story: your side, my side and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each differently.". /Robert Evans
What is pivotal is not the two sides but rather what´s in the middle. Do we leave it empty to get filled by chaos since nature abhors a vacuum or do we transform it into the platform upon which all sides can meet as equals to build a better future that neither side could ever achieve on their own?
Mufit should do a video on ghadeer khumm next
If politics isn't about "piety", then what was the porpoise of the prophets? including prophet mohammed as.!?
Cant wait to listen to this later. Love u Mufti from Australia.
too many ads..annoying
They weren't twins. Hassan was almost a year older thats why Hussain was named so. Hussain means small Hassan. Just like umair means small Umar.
Mufti, why you never GO TO THE POINT?
you have very less knowledge of history incident of harra is after krbalah
Yes he doesn’t know much
@Siraj Haq stfu
@Siraj Haq according to him karbalah hapened after harrah it is a lie . a big blunder not mde by scholars
@Siraj Haq i know its hisham i am pakistani o my parents named me hasham... its common like mehmat for muhammad and lther names ..
@Siraj Haq he said first thing that happened was even of harrah and then he said at end of his khilafah karbalah happened .. listen from where he was teling about yazis.. he made many mistakes other than this also..
Brother Mufti I think at times your contention become subjective and erroneous. For example the stereotype of Shia being killers finds space here too. Secondly, taking a reductionist approach on the issue of Syedna Hussain AS leaving Hijaz. Thirdly, your hypothesis that Yazid didn't want the gruesome murder to happen and discrediting his hateful comments on the martyrdom of Imam Hussain AS. I mean his couplets have been recorded by historians of both formative and classical periods. Also, brother Shias don't use Muharram to curse sahaba and so called sahabas(being the difference of opinion between two sects).
@Shaun Shaikh Wasalam. Sure dear I will be sending you material related to Karbala. Are you comfortable with Urdu too? And please wait for some days.
@Shaun Shaikh Sure. Just give me some days as I am outta station. Allah bless you and curse on the enemies of Ahlul Bayt.
why did the army let the women go when some of the men in the governor's army were recognized by Hussein (AS)? The women could also have spoken about this to yazid (who in turn would have executed them for treason) or could have just spread the news
Still those who know ali was appointed
Which one is better to understand the "SUNNI" perspective of Karbala?
Farid Responds video from Sunni Defense
OR
This one from Abu Layth
Neither. With all due respect to Mufti, his discourse on Karbala and the Sunni love and reverence for the Ahl e Bait AS is disappointing. If you understand Urdu then Dr. Tahir ul Qadri and Maulana Ishaq have great lectures on Karbala. I suspect Shaykh Ninowy does a great overview of Karbala from Al Bidayah Wan Nihayah but I have not watched his series myself yet, but he has expressed great love for Imam Hussain AS in the past.
@Shaun Shaikh Thank you for sharing this link. I have never heard of these people, I will definitely look into it. Glad to know more similar scholars are out there. It seems all their material is in Arabic which I unfortunately do not understand though.
My impression of Farid and the SD team is that they're more interested in engaging in polemics against the Shia and they seem to have a wahhabi/nasibi trend. I could be wrong but that is my impression, and I personally don't find such an approach helpful or useful at all. The same can be said for the entire Hyde park speakers corner dawah/polemics/debate scene.
talk in urdu mufti 😒
Muawiya Ibn Abu Sufyan rebellious group seems to be a pretty simple cause. I'm a sunni but I know it was his politics
Very interesting insights! 💯
urdu main videos dala kro yr
Shia e Ali. The followers of Ali a.s. , Because Ali was closest to the Sunnah of the Prophet. The others started to deviate from the Sunnah with innovations.
Unfortunately,history is written by the victors.
Maybe the shias should stop reading Rumi, since he mentioned a story about Muawiya and the shaytan, in which he praised Muawiya's piety.
Who was hussain and hassan?
I find Shias doctrine too emotional and not based on reason. They act like Islam is all about revenge for ahlul bayt. They forget Islam is about Worshipping Allah alone. Our purpose is to spread that message
History is halal
You made me remember God father by Mario Puzo.?
@Mufti Abu Layth. I strongly believe you are as well playing that politics of Muawiya, hence speaking this way.
I can't tell the how many times I have watched this very video amongst your great educative videos.
However, there's no way Muawiya and his immediate family attained the title of r.t.a. never.
I strongly believe the message of Islam came to us after being destroyed by the Umayyas.
With reasoning and rationality, Muawiya and his likes were never Muslims for the sake of faith.
This your take of Karbala isn't born out of reasoning and logic. I strongly believe you are playing Muawiya's "good cop and bad cop" tactics.
How could someone who wants me dead wouldn't starve me?
Those that attacked the city of the prophet are really capable of destroying everything He left behind without thinking of it at all.
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Muavia was cunning like a fox ! He knew how to manipulate
Whole tale of Karbala is concocted by Shia
35:20 no wonder once muawiya made someone speak bad about ali ra infront of people and then scolded that person and took him out for speaking bad against ali ra
So umar chooses caliphate not Allah and the prophet lol. Then we are told if you dont accept umar choice its kufer lol. Even though he himself says it's a mistake lol
Agree koofan were the real killers of Imam Hussain...
you are not a mufti you are Mufta because you act like Zakir Nike
Tatbir is haram matam is allowed
When the uncle of the prophet pbuh got martyrdom, Hamza may Allah be pleased with him, how come the prophet pbuh didnt tell us to do Matham for him?????????? Nobody can aswer this because they know its made up thing about Matham
Simple Question, Who Is Imam Jafar Sadiq a.s
@@yawarabass3328 simple answer. Imam Jafar Sadiq R.A.... A.S (Alayhi Salaam) is for Angels and prophets. Not for the people. You don't even have a common sense
Shias loved this guy until this video was uploaded. 😬😂
Apart from that, I don't agree with Mufti in a lot of stuff, but to be fair, this might be the first time someone has explained the incident in such depth without actually going in details. You did really well. However, I do also think, even though Hussain (ra) got the political calculations wrong, it was a courageous and brave stand against tyranny.
May Allah be pleased with him. ❤️
@Shaun Shaikh By political calculations, I meant trusting the Kufans who betrayed his father, Sayyiduna Ali (ra). I never said, because he got the calculations wrong it affects his status in any way. No! He's the leader of the Youth of Paradise along with Sayyiduna Hasan (ra), and nothing can change that.
As mufti, if he would have joint Abdullah ibn Zubair (ra) they might have had created a big movement among the Muslims. But anyways, it happened, because Allah willed it. And to this day, his revolt remains as an act of Bravery, Courage and Truthfulness.
@Shaun Shaikh wars could be fought outside Makkah, just like when enemies arrived in Madinah, Rasulullah (saw) went outside the city to fight them.
politics doesn't have to be cut throat. that's judging politics by today's standards. there were noble spiritual governments in the past.
Why are people commenting/watching this joke’s videos?
@Shaun Shaikh lol touché, what I meant why are people commenting as if this guy is reputable/worth it?
@Sam E you just took a fat L
@@zinedineyzidane
Do you have anything of worth to say as a comment? Do you wish to speak your mind and share with us what your opinions are the way the Mufti is sharing his? If not, I´m not sure why you say what you do because how are we to assess your comment if we don´t know what we are to use as a relative point.
1.when you know Family of Prophet (SAW) is on way the ruler being admin keeps in touch every second what’s goin on....& infact if in doubt of battalion surrounding them “another should have been sent ..rushed towards them so no evil takes place...
2.Khutba (khitab) of Prophet’ s Family in palace clears it...Mufti your lectures shows your clear heart & knowledge & its always admirable...but narrating specifically regarding “Karbala” ....dil dukha dya tumhary byan ny...you’re a logical person have some heart man to speak truth & so always called “”logic & context” ....Muslims do you know why man like Mufti too had to because when link your self with any firqa ...maliki bralivi ..bla bla only then it happens what Mufti did (gol mol jawab) ...so just “STAY & BE ONLY A MUSLIM” while doing JUSTICE & telling TRUTHS! ....stay blessed!
What about all the nutjobs who say " hussain RA saved islam"..... as if Allahs religion is weak
He doesn't know the whole story bro read more books
Hes bani hachem quryash but they want to decieve for the caliphates they quryash to ignore bani hachem
Only follow quran ❤ 😂 not fabrication
Beating around the bush
You mention that you discussed the history with Sunni schiloars but you did mention that you also discuss with Shia scholars... so having views from one side only is not doing justice as you know in case of hazarat Daood incident mention in Quran.... you are also taking islam as a political religion and not a dive religion.... so doing politics by Ameer Mavia is against theology of Islam... rather going back to Malookiat that is Kingship... plus the clver move done my Ameer Mavia to let down Hazarat Ali by his political negative moves to distrub him throughout his rule... So many negative mistakes by Ameer Mavia wont bother yoyu ??? Please read history of Yazid brought up... and his druken attitude and destrying islamic values... then why Ameer Mavia inspite of the agreement with hazarat Hassan tht he will not give rule to his son Yasid, but he did it??? I think its simple that decline of true islamic rule start ending with the rule of Ameer Mavia and so on Yasid... expanding rule or areas dosn't ... be fair to a level where it does not distrub thereality... I am bit disappointed by you on this very important topic actually where the downfall of islam started..... Open mind does not mean that you neglect the facts and saying of our Prophet.... do you believe teh Hadith that Hasan & Hussain are the sultan of Jannah ... and other hadith that are recognized by most of the factions in islam ??? I would suggest that you meeet other group as well and then make your judgement accordingly......
Get to the point . We want facts . Not your opinion
#THE VERSES OF BANI UMAYAA 26.28 #BANI UMAYAA ARE THE ROOTS OF #ALL EVILS IN ISLAM
In nutshell Hussain was assassinated by his own political faction i.e. shias of Ali. very sad
your acting is poor. you are hilarious. you gonna do good in standup comedy dude. oh yes i am talking to agent
layth.
This guy is fitnah man
Fantastic contribution. Blistering reply. I can tell you are among the best of your nation.