Who Was The Real King Herod? | Biblical Tyrant | Timeline
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- King Herod is regarded as the most fascinating and appalling figure of the biblical world. Shrouded in legend, the evil King is portrayed in every Christmas Nativity play as a monster who killed hundreds of babies and tried to slaughter the baby Jesus in order to retain his title - King of the Jews. But who was the real Herod? Was he real at all, or just a figure of myth?
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Wow this is awesome!
What new things has your holy spirit thought you in the last 2000y? Precisely nothing!!!!!. (Jon 3 16 is a fabrication) not found in modern RSV Bible.
@@Nunquam Non Paratus .poiness talking to mindless idiots!
@Nunquam Non Paratus ❤️ sorry.
You really should fact check before you try to make "historical" references (or upload this junk)
I'm astounded by the amount of information that is available about a person who lived 2000 years ago, but yet, I have barely idea what my grandpa had been up to, a mere 60 years ago.
I suppose your grandpa was not a king.
@@EwaldDieser 😆
Cause it must have been horrendous to be so remarked in history.
That may just be because your grandpa wasn't famous. Herod was a king, he knew Mark Antony...
You can change all of that.. From now onwards record your own history so your descendants would know what you got up to
I’ve looked up Herod’s life in my own copy of Josephus. Herod was a man with no respect for the Jewish God. When Herod set out to kill the baby Jesus, he was worried about losing his throne and authority. So much so that he took the lives of a couple of his sons to prevent them from taking the throne from him. Herod was fearful to the point of paranoia. Cruel to the point of heartlessness. Herod meant everything to himself. He loved no other.
He was a puppet king of his time
Herod was filled with Satan I believe and of course Satan made every attempt to kill of Jesus. Killing 100's of babies to reach Jesus would be of no concern to achieve the desired act. Thank God it failed as Jesus lived to accomplish His mission.
Herod never sent people to kill jesus - that is nothing but christian fiction. Odd that for having no respect for the "jewish god" that Herod built the 2nd Temple for that god...and Josephus never mentioned Jesus either - that has been proven to be a 4th century fraudulent addition to Josephus' original writings
You're right and Josephus was/is the go to historian for this era. Herod was also Idumean (descendant of Esau) and not of the tribe of Judah or Benjamin. A evil man indeed.
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Satan? Is that you?
The Disciple Mathew had no reason to lie about Herod murdering babies......nor did Mathew have anything to gain from a lie like that. Plus Herod was exactly the kind of guy to carry out a horrific act like that!
sure he did ...to make Jesus fulfill Old Testament prophecy of things the Messiah would have happen
This documentary is made by Jesus haters. They hate Jesus and say bad things about Him. They demanded Jesus, an innocent man, to be murdered. The Jews repeatedly cried out to Pontius Pilate, “Crucify Him, Crucify Him!” Pilate wanted to let Jesus go free, but the Jews kept saying, “Crucify Him, Crucify Him!” To prevent a Jewish riot, Pilate allowed the Jews to take Jesus away and had the Roman soldiers commit the act of murdering the Son of God. The Jews passed by Jesus and mocked Him, as He was dying on the cross.
@@thomaspick4123 _Jesus was a Jew. Jesus was crucified under the authority of Pontius Pilate, whose authority was under Casear the Pontifus Maximus._
*_Ultimately Jesus was crucified under the authority of the Pontifus Maximus._*
Matthew 7:16 KJV ... Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Two questions: Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah? Which prophecy do you believe was fulfilled when Herod was said to have murdered babies?
The Disciple Mathew is not the author of Mathew's bible. The Author of Mathew's Bible is Unknown so therefor lies and contradictions can be found there.
I bet you 2k years ago herod didn't think people would know him and his actions and were listening and watching it on a device they had no idea about...its crazy to hear stories from so long ago in the modern era like these people did not realize theyvwould go down in history
Imagine back than and how it plays into history moving forward
@SAMMY JONES and as the only FELLOW black people where the only person another black person has to fear is another black person, or per head of capita......most unborn babies have to fear is being aborted by their own mothers & if born unfortunately abandoned by their fathers ( baby daddies ).
But, yeah......Abrahamic faiths were / are especially in all era's ( concerning Mohammedians ) so bloodthirsty, but so were the the kin/ fellow blacks of the trans atlantic slave trade,.bloodthirsty & their love of money notorious.
Dont be a hypocritical, race card carrying, victimhood slay to yourself.
ALL people of all nations have been enslaved ( the word comes from the enslaved Slavics ) but it has been going on since year dot.
Only blacks love calling themselves out as the most oppressed people & it is just absurd that more blacks die at the hands/ knives/ guns than all the American slaves put togeether
Im Irish & under the english have endured much, but we are silent( mostly)& we dont murder eachother at astonishing rates & we don't have any disingenuous race baiter making millions & pumping it ALL into properly right next door to those savage white people & as of yet refuse to show how much bang you got for all those bucks they made.
Good luck with the ignorant plight & stop being a racist that lectures on racism.
We cant change the past, but we have good odds on changing all our futures if we drop the ' woe is me & EVERYONE owes me attitudes'then you can take some responsibility for yourself.
Like Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
I wanna see this Sammy Jones comment.. lol
Some have been lost to history. It is luck. Josephus was working from hearsay from this period.
"Herod acted decisively. He fled." Hahaha!
The first Philippines president did that too haha
what a shame that the actually engineers - architects - builders names are forgotten - the men who actually had to bring herod's dreams to life
Yes and what is worst their masterfull skilled technique is also lost.
its not lost...you just dont know how to access it...still wouldn't be easy...but it could be done...
@@gothboschincarnate3931 good point bro. Kashicrecords
@@paulneilson6117 My idea of finding the names would be rather unconventional. If the names are lost to history. You could have a channeler try to locate the names of those individuals, find out who they are in this lifetime and some do regressive hypnotherapy. lol ...wouldn't be the easiest thing. but i might just work.
@@paulneilson6117 if someone could access the akashic records...that would work too...now your thinking!
I love this documentary on king Herod. I've read that it was safer to be one of his dogs than one of his sons in line for the throne.
Octavian said that it was safer to be one of his pigs than one of his sons because Herod, being a Jew, wouldn’t kill a pig but showed he was fine murdering his sons
Ok ok I must now believe that in one way or the Other Krishna is Jesus
Because in both cases there was a tyrant king who wanted to kill all male babues
This happens so often when a great child is to be born going back to mose and the Pharaoh in Egypt.
@@Chungus581 Herod was not of Jewish decent.
@@Chungus581 herod wasn't a jew though... he was Arab
Herod was, indeed, a visionary builder. That much of his work remains to this day attests to that. He was also an intriguer, a conniver, a tyrant, a manipulator and a man who did not hesitate to wield absolute power ruthlessly and precipitately. These traits, combined with the obsessive paranoia of a king who imagined his crown constantly in peril, prompted the horrific acts Josephus presents in such graphic detail and which form a chronicle of madness. Josephus relates that, after he took the throne, Herod killed over 13,000 individuals in retribution for their opposition. He then murdered all but one of the Sanhedrin. He had no regard for the thousands of slaves whose lives were lost in his grand building schemes. He killed wives, sons, relatives, and anyone he perceived as a threat. Why, then, I wonder, does this documentary, serve as apologist for him relative to the slaughter of the innocents, which seems perfectly consistent with his character? Several facts attest to its likelihood, not least of which is that Herod, who was always sensitive to threats to his power would have been doubly so regarding the King that Scripture prophesied. His murder of those under two years old wasn't arbitrary, it was carefully considered: if alive, and living in or near Bethlehem, the child would be under two years old; therefore the politically expedient thing to do is eliminate all male children under that age. Bloody, yes, but politically expedient. (By the way, your documentary mentions 'thousands' of children were killed in this pogrom. Very unlikely, given that the population of Bethlehem was about 300 at the time. Also, the narration says there were 'three wise men'. There is no such mention in the Bible.) As for neither Josephus or Luke mentioning the event, Josephus may have been prolific, but I doubt he'd have had the time to provide a comprehensive catalog of Herod's atrocities. As for Luke, given that the story had been related in Matthew just a year or two before he wrote his account, why would he feel compelled to reiterate it? He spent much of his time researching Mark and providing greater detail to that particular account. In all, while the documentary is entertaining, it doesn't reflect sound scholarship, or even sound logic, but it does suggest an animus toward the Biblical account and, again, I wonder why?
Matthew 2:16 slew all the children, that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof. From the Mediterranean to the Dead Sea. That would comprise slot of children and much mourning.
Very well said, Mr. Crossman!
@@carlbodene8150
The "coasts thereof" in that verse just means the "borders" of Bethlehem, the adjacent villages around that small town.
@David Crossman Quite simple: those "woke" rewriters of history nourish the inner desire that Herod had succeeded in eliminating Jesus of Nazareth. With the same respect for logic and scholarship, Arafat and his heirs claim(ed) that a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem never existed.
I wish I could share what you said on my blog. I will direct the ones who may read it to your comment. Thank you.
I find it odd that a king who killed his own wife and three children because of his paranoia and perceived threats to his power and authority would not kill all the children 2 years of age and under after being told the next king of Israel had been born in Jerusalem.
Facts
What about Joe who was NOT elected but installed by the CCP who pretends to be Christian but has no problem killing Americans adults & children to bring about NWO. Its biblical
There may not have been 100s of babies killed, perhaps only 20 or so under the age of 2 in Berhlehem at that time. Perhaps that is why Josephus did not think it significant, or didn't know about it?
@@lovelydianna5930 are you a none player character or something
Bethlehem was not a large city. It is certainly likely that there were not large numbers of boys age two and under in the town. When documenting a king who went on major killing sprees, to Josephus the killing of a relatively small number of children may have seemed not worth mentioning. It was just another thing, and his murderous acts were better illustrated by other instances.
Herod didn't have a psychotic break ... he had DEMONS!
Because he rejected the Jewish God....Jesus Christ
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Wasn't that Solomon, and the temple of Babylon? 😂
Herod was a democrat. Probably a ped0, too.
He had a STD and a magical third nipple named Galko!!
Perhaps Herod could have avoided most of this, if he would have just kept his first wife(Queen), and son(Prince)and true heir. 🤔 when he banished them to take a second wife, who didn't even want him..it all went south. 🙄 I wonder how history would be different.
Wouldn't matter.
History and future will follow the bible exactly.
Just like ww1 led to ww2 then ISRAEL came about.
God is not lacking in His promises.
It’s interesting how Josephus account is taken as gospel yet when Mathew mentions something about him that is seen as subjective and should not be taken seriously.
Matthew didn't actually write the book of Matthew. Only John wrote his own gospel. The book of Matthew was cobbled together by his followers who tried to recreate his stories. They were also influenced by the other disciples accounts. Matthew also makes a lot of claims that aren't corroborated by anyone outside of his religion. If the sky darkened at 3pm at Jesus crucifixion, why isn't it recorded by any academic scribes in the whole region??? Also, the book of Matthew has a clear agenda whereas Josephus has none
@@jakestroll6518 Matthew being a Lewyte did indeed write his own book , originally in "Hebrew" as witnessed by Justinian 2 who hated the "Hebrew" Language and had Matthew's witness burned. I have a copy of it; got it before the London Museum censored access to it.
@@jakestroll6518 The prophet Jeremiah talks about Rachel crying for her kids because it was over for them. Which was a clear prophecy to this massacre.
No, Josephus' account of Jesus and his followers is known interpolation, or fake.
@@jakestroll6518Josephus also had an agenda in his writings, from the way he wrote about himself, to remaining in Roman favor, defining was is a Jew when he wrote about Samaritans, and how he believed the Jews should be ruled
we read about these kings and things they did but we forget they were actual people with everyday lives ... the adventures they lived and the deadly game of power they played
yes, nothing changed!!
@@bernadettevanderploeg9551 individual does not exidt
Just another guy.
...and the monuments they ordered in their name while thousands of slaves built it and dozens of engineers made their mad dreams reality, while they sat and ate grapes and drank wine...
If Herod can kill his own children.......... why would Matthew lie?
In the same way people exaggerate the things they hear. Herod was a capable administrator, but the Jews hate him because of their racial prejudices mandated by their holy book.
Yup! He's more than likely guilty! Evil to the core.
You do understand that the disciple named Matthew was not the writer of the Gospel named Matthew? Later writers would often attribute writings to historical characters to give them more weight. Seriously,read a book.
Maybe it wasn't a conscious lie.
He wrote it almost 100 years after the alleged death of Jesus, so everything he wrote was anecdotal
Matithyahu is not the one who lied. Justinian 2 hated his witness because it was written in "Hebrew". They need to discredit our witnesses. They do so by relabeling us by their 200 year old self-identification; but we are and have always been Yahudah/Ysrael.
Every single student of history knows that the Hasmoneans were descendants of the Maccabees who descended from the priest line of Aharon. If this doc can so blatantly say they came from the Davidic line then I wonder what other misinformation they pass on. Just because they say it with a confident British accent doesn't change facts.
Infidelity was easy back then.
Unless there is actual DNA 🧬 links.
@@Guillan80 and there ISNT
You are right! The Maccabees were Cohanim.
@@tamarromano431 they weren’t. They were LEVITES. You are unlearned. Stop making up words that don’t pertain to what the SCRIPTURES Say! The SCRIPTURES OVERRULE ANY HISTORICAL ACCOUNT AS IT IS ALREADY A HISTORICAL ACCOUNT.
Excellent documentary, I had no idea what I've learned today 🌿❣️
The casting...
Young Herod: GORGEOUS
Old Herod: HORRIFYING
Young gorgeous men do age hideously. Throughout time
@@ALSILVERU2 same goes for women
Masada is even more impressive than it is described as, it is not merely on the edge of a cliff but on top of a deserted high plateau. To build the fortress, equipment, materials, food, and water had to be carried up, and they also dug deep into the mountain to create water cisterns. I’m not sure how true it is, but I remember the guide saying that when Erod visited Masada it would day 3 days for his party just to climb up the narrow ramp carved along the cliff side.
Herod had a mandate to keep "peace" in any manner he wanted. He is considered a monster...a murderer. He occupied a time in history when the rulership culture was murderous and brutal. That in part made him who he was.
Excellent documentry vedeo giving historical events highlighting his cruelty of his nature to retain in power.
I honestly thought this was going to help me sleep. I was wrong.
😂
That’s the problem with listening to docs to sleep lol. At least it helps with ruminating!😉
interesting documentary that portrays Herod as capable of any outrage but the murder of the children. Odd conclusion to say the least.......i think i'll accept Matthew's account......
vertical logic, they are still killing babies in 2019!
@@terry4137 ...who are ??
I was JUST about to state the same...he was a senile paranoid lunatic toward his throne....but we doubt if he killed the children....but he kills his own children
@Zz Z .....it's true about abortion but has nothing to do with this documentary........ Your second thought is'nt logical. If the Almighty can create all things then He certainly has the ability to ensure that His word reaches us today accurately. His message is for us too and for it to be understood by us, it must be accurate. Have faith in Him to provide us with accurate knowledge......
@Zz Z .....there are no contradictions in God's word, just reader's misunderstanding.....
Herod rebuilt Jerusalem and built Caesarea ( his 'gift' to Rome ). His new architecture was surpassingly beautiful. The 'Temple Mount' is the foundations of the Roman Fort, the largest structure in Jerusalem. with the temple linked nearby. When the Roman army destroyed Jerusalem and its small temple, only the fort was left standing.
His staff did not him.
which leads to the awkward situation of Jews praying not to a surviving wall of the 2nd Temple but a wall of the fort where the roman legions lived who destroyed the 2nd Temple - I wonder if the Jews will ever admit it?
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 actually the wall is part of the base of the Temple Mount structure and is therefore part of the Temple complex.
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Many have already. The Hasidic Jews and some other extremely conservative sects won't be able to do this on ideological grounds, as it invalidates a strong tradition, which they use as a foundation of their religious belief. Most Muslims will never be able to accept this fact, either. The Truth is often harsh and inconvenient and most folks reject it automatically instead of re-examining their beliefs. This is simply human nature. Here's another zinger: Mecca is not the city of Mohammed. The City of Mohammed is almost certainly Petra in Northern Arabia. Dan Gibson conclusively demonstrated this during the past few years, but this is something that the authorities in Saudi Arabia will never be able to acknowledge.
@@sidmeyer2011 No it isn't. The Temple was completely destroyed and Israeli Archaeologists have discovered the remains of the altar of Solomon's ( destroyed ) Temple and some debris from the Second Temple. It was linked by causeway to the Roman Fort, but it was obliterated by Roman troops. Only the Roman Fort was left untouched in the City of Jerusalem. The Temple Mount is the foundations and the magazines of the Roman Fort. It was carefully built up to level to create a large platform for the Roman garrison. Jerusalem was a garrison city and the capital of the province of Judea, arguably the most valuable overseas possession of the People and the Senate of Rome. Herod also built Caesarea as a resort for the Romans and a port city for Jerusalem. Rome was terribly concerned about a Jewish uprising and history proved them right, even though their own actions helped bring it about. The 'Temple Mount' is the remains of the Roman Fort.
I’m impressed by the actor portraying Herod. No spoken lines that were aired, just the visuals. He certainly had the right look, and carried out the portrayal very believably.
So thrilling and informative to watch, listen and understand..thx
Great story and fantastic speaker
voice. Thanks ♥️
These rewriting of history to absolve the tyranny and wrongdoings of their own to another is really astounding!
"Their own"?
@@opinionsvary Ok... But my question was who are "they"?
Can you suggest a reference for an accurate history?
@@velvetunderpants44 The Elites and Rulers of this wicked world.
@@ChristineAllen_yeni The Bible.
It wasn’t king Herod and his “madness” that was desperate to eradicate Jesus, it was “who” was heavily influencing and pushing him inwardly, just as Judas iscariot was influenced internally by a supernatural power. The unseen realm will always be intertwined with the physical realm
AMEN That is why we must always pray for wisdom. Thank you for your comment.
Wasn't, no unseen forces... But sheckles of silver
He the same sellout today, but he smoke crack now
Why didn't they let Baby Jesus die for everyone's sins then? It would have been an opportune moment, but 🤬 no, had to let him grow up and show off.
@@SolutionsNotPrayers he lead a life that no one can duplicate . Lead by example on how to be a son, a brother, a friend, a teacher, a servant and most importantly a sacrifice. He had to be a willing sacrifice, as a baby there would be no wiling sacrifice. God loved you so much that Jesus willingly stayed on that cross until the death penalty was paid. Took the punishment for everyone including you. The fact that you have not succumb to Covid and died like so many is a opportunity that God still wants you change your thinking about him and his Son, remaining cold and indifferent will only seal your eternity.
It was very common for Kings to omit certain events in their reign simply to preserve a “positive” remembrance in history.
What Trump is doing now lol
@@nippermh you're siting the wrong current day politician
Or there simply wasn’t any account in actual history of the Jesus fairy tale..
@@clarkeokah1154 what an odd comment to make 🤔
@@rosesacks7430 what’s “odd” about it? Or did you just learn to use the word “odd”?
absolutely fasinating very well done on this programme
4:11 o hey this guy was my prof for a first year history course way back in 08-09 semester. He looks way younger here, totally forgot his name. I'll never forget that voice though. It's almost exactly how I imagined Professor Binns sounded like in Harry Potter.
This was really good. I always enjoy reading other pieces and gathering more info on something people are groomed to believe only happened one way.
Different angles always make things more interesting.
Had to stop and comment on the first most obvious error/lie. The narrator said that Herod was Arab, this is not true Herod was an Idumean, a descendant of Esau/Edom.
Actually apart from that bit the documentary is extremely good.
No he was an Arab.
@@danahsutton101 Pilate had Jesus killed.
@@samdowner1792 Actually, His own Religion's clergy had him killed and they used Pilot to do the deed to get around their own laws. Pilot didn't dare let him go once the Pharisees got him in front of him because he'd get in trouble with Herod. Pilot might have "pulled the trigger" so to speak but it was Jesus' own Religious leaders that "aimed the gun". Blame where it's due. As far as whether he was or was not Arab is up for debate among greater scholars than you or I so saying with certainty that he was an Arab or with certainty that he wasn't is based solely on personal preference as there are arguments for both. Having said that, there is more supporting evidence for him *not* being an Arab.
This documentary seems to have a preferred "slant". Just saying. I mean, the title alone tells you that it has a slant when they say "Biblical Tyrant Documentary".
@@RachelStormborn LOL Firstly moron it is spelled Pilate, a pilot is someone who flies a plane. The rest of your rant is idiotic moronity. Herod came for the tribe fo Esau. Esau was the half son of a Jew and an Arab slave woman, hagar, and that makes him not a Jew. Sorry but I know my history. Thinking you are even within my league is silly on your part. So you got that right, greater scholars know more han you. How many degrees do you possess? I have two.
11:15 Aaaand that’s a painting of Constantine at the battle of the Milvian bridge.
Thanks🍊
Wish there was a part 2 with more personal info. Well done.
Part 2 in the holy Bible
Very interesting and informative.
A man of his times and surroundings.
I wonder who were his building engineers? They deserve as much credit as Harod surely. Is that on the Mediterranean?
That IS NOT the temple mount. That was the base of the Roman fort built after the destruction of the temple. Even Josephus said, "Not one stone was left atop another."
False
@@MitzvosGolem1 hey, Shalom!!! Glad to see you on YT outside Tanakh talk !! 😁😁 the pagans went crazy on this one, did you notice they lied regarding Herod's decent? He was Esau kin, but Esau wouldn't want to report truth...
Hank Rogers - Yeah, the temple was located in The City of David.
@@@SoulScribe43 .hay Salam to you too. Just a correction. HEROD THE GREAT WAS AN ARAB. You know from the line of Abraham. Historic fact just so you know. But why would you care, you people were the chosen people. The blessed. Apple of gods eye.. I wonder where God was when throughout history countries after centuries murder you. Raped and robbed u, enslaved you. Countless times destroyed your city's.....just wondering..
The Fortress... Antonia
Leasing Jericho from Cleopatra cost over 1/2 the nation’s income. Government costs were also high. Where did he get the money for all these expensive building projects?
Tax
years ago, someone did a calculation from the population at the time and estimated Herod would have had about 20 boys killed, which is quite believable.
and how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, with both being supernatural events, or the last thing anyone should ever entertain as actually happening when weighing likelihoods.
literally last Saturday at my synagogue I was having historical and theological discussions with my friends before services ended. And one topic that came up was king herad that a lot of his architectural work especially the renovations on the temple was his way of making amends after the killings. I just find it ironic a few days later I stumble upon this documentary never looked for it but it found me.
Algorithms...
@@LiliWhyte he never said he looked it up tho
Synchronicity. God. Happens to me all the tine, and it isn’t because I’m looking something up. Pay attention to the nuances in your life.
Your phone is always listening. Mark Zuckerberg and Google Have Eyes everywhere
@@n0v-3l exactly! Go ahead & have a convo with a friend about dog food & soon enough, you'll start seeing ads for dog food.
If Timeline did not have so much ads on their documentaries I would watch them all the time.
The ads suck
free ad block helps
One that knew Herod said: "It is better to be Herod's dog than one of his children"
actually, the quote is "it is better to be Herod's pig"
@@shaydowsith348 From what source are you quoting? After googling, I find both, and both attributed to Augustus.
What a bloody statement.
Fantastic, a nice video. I like this historic channel, especially with the details.💕
Are we supposed to feel badly for poor Herod now? Has revisionist history indeed reeducated us to believe that actually he was an archetypal hero from antiquity?
Excellent thank you, but old age and possible paranoia or madness
does not imo exonerate King Herod from any crimes against the Jews.
History is history, they’re not revising anything lol
It was already a christian revisionist history to begin with . And a "history" written by christians who did many fraudulent historical add ons to the story...to (1) make the Jesus story fit the Old Testament prophecies of the Messiah and (2) to try to create a contemporary verification of Jesus existing as a real historical figure because there were none - thats why you had 4th century christian leaders in Constantine's court adding on paragraphs to Josephus to creating fake letters from Pilate to Rome talking about his interview of Jesus and nonsense like that. All have been now proven to be fake. Scholars dont even know who wrote the Gospels!
The fact remains is that there is no document contemporary of when Jesus was alleged to have lived that mentions him at all. Odd that considering when he died there was suppose to be a solar eclipse and earthquakes around the world and what not!
Its good that we we not talk about christian fraud and revisionist history....i hope christian fanaticism and revisionism will not destroy America one day.
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 you are crazy. Non of that is true and most scholars disagree with you. Site all you're sources and make sure what they say what you claim and that they are the majority and not a few radical revisionists
Serious Inaccuracy: Hasmoneans were not “of the davidic line” This is actually quite well known.
Josephus, disagrees with you.
@@AlexSmith-mp4eg Can you quote this?
Sure, I'll have a look for it and post the quote here.
@@vonroretz3307 I actually read your reply wrong 😂 I read the line of Aaron, my bad.
@@AlexSmith-mp4eg so they’re Aaronic then ? at least its easy to remember !
At the 37:51 mark, this video states inaccurately that the Bible says that there were three wise men. The Bible is completely silent about how many of these Magi there were.
I find it remarkable that the Herod of history is EXACTLY the sort of person who would kill all the babies of a certain age in a small town in order to prevent a threat to his throne. It would be more farfetched if Herod was actually a good king or decent man. But the fact that he routinely killed who he considered were threats to his rule is pretty telling. Now, I don't know if the Bethlehem massacre was real or a literary throwback to the Goshen massacre. (aka Moses in Exodus) But if it was, you have to remember, Bethlehem was a small town. They had just (within 3 years or so) had a census and knew where people generally were. The soldiers were working from the census and the local records concerning dedications and so forth. So they kinda knew where to go. But if I'm wrong about that and I could be, how many babies were killed? How big was Bethlehem at this point? While graphic and brutal, if it wasn't a sizable number, it would blend into the horrible things that Herod and the Romans have done. We looking back on it would think it's horrendous and it is, but if a historian didn't think it was newsworthy, it didn't go into the record. I wonder what Josephus thought of Bethlehem. And who his sources were. No newspapers back then. Guys like Josephus worked for kings and other rich, powerful people. Anyway, whether it did or didn't happen is a matter of Faith, but given what we know of the man, it's completely possible. Or is it probable?
👑👑👑HAPPY 3 Kings Day !🎂...or
THE pathetic PREJUDICE of postmoderne' history laid bare...
"Oh yes... in general King Herod had no qualms ordering mass killings, and for the mildest threats to his power and reign...
but, oh no, ...when something very consistent about Herod, said in the Bible?...we'll have to doubts about that..."
Why??? well..ah...er...the single source for the account is Matthew..."
(actually not true at all... but for now....OK, just for the sake of argument)
1. Are there additional ancient historical sources, other than the one from Josephus, for Herod's individual mass atrocities?....not in general...rather the specific one's, that Josephus does detail and, which apparently historians have no doubts?
...nope
2. Are the any later, critical and ancient, but adversarial historical sources, either denying or suggesting that "the Slaughter of the Innocents", was an invented Christian slur?
...not a one
3. Are there ancient historical sources which, fully accept "the Slaughter of the Innocents" on its face?
...they are legion
...and I have at the ready, references for those interested in the real Herod history, minus anti-Bible bigotry...
Yes, it’s almost as if he’s Palestinian, huh
They always try to hide the truth of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Yahweh, The ONLY King of Kings. Mighty in All ways. Truth will always be told, always be seen. We are in the Tribulation, the final chapter of the book we call, the Bible, it has already been written, the ending told. If the soul is sick, the body will be sick as well. It is given it is written
The bible doesn't reconcile to the rest of recorded history.
If you are really prepared to research your beliefs you will find too many discrepancies to continue to believe in christianity as a theistic belief.
The GoSPELS !!!
Interesting and exceedingly entertaining documentary. I really enjoyed it. Nevertheless, I was surprised it had some basic inaccuracies. E.g The narration said "In 31 BC simmering ill feeling between Mark Antony and the Emperor Octavian erupted into civil war." Octavian wasn't an Emperor then. He was actually a private citizen when the civil war began. It wasn't until 27 BC, long after the civil war had ended, was he renamed Augustus and bestowed some Emperor like powers. Even then it was gradual as the years passed, opposed to suddenly given absolute King like powers. Furthermore it showed Octavian wearing Emperor like Crown/Wreath (Corona Radiata) when Herod visited him to plead his defence in supporting Mark Antony. Again this would be highly inaccurate. Romans up to that point detested anything king like and Octavian-even when renamed Augustus was more of a first amongst equals politician 'Princeps' (First Citizen within the Republic not Roman Emperor and Empire) who ensured he appeared humble and far from being a ruler because the senate and Roman people would not have accepted this. It wasn't until after he passed that later generation Emperor's like Caligula began wearing crowns and displaying absolute like powers.
Exactly.
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This is an excellent documentary, and even a student of the histories of the Old and New Testaments might be provided with new information. However, statements made from the 1.29 mark should be clarified. The narrator states that "only a descendant of King David could be King of the Jews". For clarity and understanding, it should be explained that as Solomon's son inherited the throne of Judea, the people of ten tribes of Israel rebelled against the House of David and formed a separate kingdom which was called the "Kingdom of Israel". The tribe of Judah (David's tribe) and the tribe of Benjamin, remained loyal to the descendants of David. Their Kings were all descendants of David. The newly formed "Kingdom of Israel" maintained its own dynasty, with no king descended from the House of David. Understanding of the Narrator's statement depends on understanding of the words "King of the Jews" . By the time of the events described in this documentary, the ten tribes which belonged to the Kingdom of Israel had been exiled and scattered. The people of Judah and Benjamin were returned,from exile, to their homeland, where they had Jerusalem as their capital. The other (ten) tribes were never sent back to the lands which they had inherited. So by this specific time it would have been correct to say "only a descendant of David can be King of the Jews". If the listener is thinking in terms of the overall history of the Hebrews/the people of Israel/ the Jewish people, this is a phrase which requires clarification.
Very interesting!
KING DAVID WAS NOT A JEW! HE IS A ISRAELITE FROM THE TRIBE JUDAH!! JEWS ARE WHITE PEOPLE! AND ARE NOT OF THE BLOOD LINE OF ABRAHAM,ISAAC, AND JACOB(ISRAEL) THE ISRAELITES ARE BLACK PEOPLE!!!
@@elijahjudah4100 Oh give it a break . So the Nazis who thoroughly examined every Holocaust victim , mostly white for Jewish traits . Got it wrong ? They should have been murdering black people in your way of thinking . Stop the Racism now. It leads to death Camps.
@@spmoran4703 he's a black Hebrew Israelite believer he won't listen. They have a racially specific belief system not agreed upon by any real scholar.
@@elijahjudah4100 In fact, the people in this vid claiming to be experts know they are Herod/Roman descendants thanks to genetic scientists Ariella Oppenheimer and Eran ElHaik
I'm addicted to Timeline's videos.
Absolutely fascinating. I thought particularly interesting was the description of Caesarea, a place I visited (and filmed) but without understanding the full extent of what actually was built there.
Caesarea is a port town. Built for the Greeks living in herods lands apparently. Caesarea, used to be called Stratos tower. The citadel in Jerusalem (the temple) was also called stratos tower but also got a name change, to the tower of Antonia.
A great source of information 👍
Thankyou .a very interesting documentary about a historical figure rarely spoken about
I totally love your last statement in this episode.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that there were 3 wise men. There had to have been an entire company of magi, and a large caravan in order to ensure safe travel.
The Bible story of the Three Wise Men, from the gospel of Matthew, is also known as the biblical Magi or the Three Kings. This Bible story regards a group of scholarly foreigners who traveled to visit Jesus after his birth, bearing gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
After Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, during the time of King Herod, Wise Men from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, 'Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him.' When King Herod learned this he was troubled, and all of Jerusalem with him. He called together all the leading clerics and scholars of the law, he questioned them where the Christ was to be born. 'In Bethlehem in Judea,' they answered, 'for this is what the prophet has written: "' But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, are by no means least among the rulers of Judah; for out of you will come a ruler who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.'" Then Herod summoned the Wise Men secretly and found out from them the precise time the star had emerged. He sent them to Bethlehem and said, 'Go and make a careful search for the child. As soon as you find him, report to me, so that I too may go and worship him.'
As directed by King Herod, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the East went before them until it stopped over the area where the child laid. Upon arriving at the house, they observed the child with his mother Mary, and they kneeled down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, incense, and myrrh. They were then miraculously warned in a dream not to go back to Herod, as he planned to kill Jesus in preserving his authority, and returned to their home by an alternative route.
@@dolphfren The BlBLE does Not SAY there were 3 wise men. ..or Magi or the Three Kings. N0 3 at all. L00K lT up.
@Steven Hickman Chapter and verse? The Bible doesn't give the number. lt is very unlikely that there were 3.
The gold and frankincense paid the way for them to flee into Egypt. However , they didn't show at the birth in the manger scene as they were already in a house at their arrival. I truly believe that they understood Daniel's writings on the seventy weeks, which told the year of His baptism and beginning of His ministry (as well as His death and the stoning of Stephen when the gospel was given over to the gentiles). They were from the same area, they knew a priest had to be thirty years old and with the aid of the Holy Spirit, did some math and went in search. They understood prophecy then, much better than most today. It's rather a good thing they did because without the gifts, travel would've been hinderd. God's always in charge.
@@richardpotter6313 Exactly. But it never said there were 3.
This was interesting. Thank you.
Another great, great video, thankyou so much for this....
Fascinating!
Thank you.
"killing of the children never took place...", really?
I saw in a magazine an article about bethlehem some 30 years ago, a cavern full of children skulls and the narration that they were the children that herod slew right after the wise men went back to their country without returning to him as he requested.
So even today, there are still some jews trying to discredit Jesus and the gospel in any way possible.
Yep. Yet another attempt by the mainstream to justify their false doctrine of a godless world and perpetuate chaos rather than order. They keep denying a creator because they fear what that implies; that their actions DO matter, that karma exists and is inescapable, that we are eternal, spiritual beings having a physical experience. More than anything else though, their main agenda is to disempower as many humans as they can, that way they can continue to control them and feed off of their creative energy.
azhaddad64 mane the magazine or book before you say “I read it in a magazine”. Or before you end up saying that you heard it from a friend of a second cousin.
Yeah unfortunately I could not find any evidence of a cavern full of children skulls found in Bethlehem. But either way, an argument from silence is the weakest form of argument. Given that the details in the Bible are so far spot on, it's unlikely to presume that this was made up or a legendary addition. We cannot know for sure whether it happened or not, but given that the Bible accounts are generally very reliable and it was during the time Herod was at the peak of his madness, its not unreasonable to believe it happened. Not mention there surely wasn't a lot of infants in Bethlehem at the time, Bethlehem has always been a small village, probably around 300 people, as estimated by Archeologist Dr. William Albright (The Anchor Bible, 1971). So the death of less than a dozen babies wouldn't have made headlines at the time, and could have easily been shadowed by the death of 300 Jewish leaders that came before or after it.
Daniel Meeks how about they stop relying on Josephus which has lots. On nonsensical Jewish myths in it. Relying on one not to accurate source to assail another source does not good history make
trailtrs1 so what I hear you saying, is, you still haven’t found your source.... Got it.
what Josephus wrote about Herod can be found in his works
"Wars of the Jews"
Book One
Chapters IX through XXXII
( lots of interesting detailed information )
Thanks I was going to look it up appreciate the information.
I'm listening to it again for the 3rd time. It's a game of thrones, an interesting listen. It does help to know the geography and politics of the day.
@@LowInformation listen? Why don't you read it lol iv been reading Josephus for the last 10 years and I can tell you, that you're missing out on valuable information. Next time, listen to how secretive Josephus is about herods wife, he calls he the "high priests daughter" and you lot say its mariamne the 2nd and the high priest is Simon Ben Boethus 😂 I say the high priest is Alexander and the daughter is Mariamne the 1st.
and in his book “ antiquity of the jews”, Herod is found in books 14-16 i believe. And I just wrote a brief chapter summary from my notes , and posted lt on the wikipedia page for “antiquity of the jews”
Thanks for data.
I have a different focus on this issue. Hyrcanus ii was influenced by Herod, Herod married Mariamne the daughter of Alexandra and Aristobulus the brother of Alexander. These two brothers were in opposition. Aristobulus was against Rome and Pharisaism but his brother Hyrcanus was a weak ruler who did himself no favours nor his family by promoting the marriage of princess Mariamne to Herod. There are a number of Alexanders and Alexandras in the story of the Hasmonans. Flavius Josephus himself was a descendant of Jonathan the son of Mattathias the father of the Maccabee dynasty.
Thanks. I am learning some historical facts about Herod (king) for the first time like his Arabic heritage
He killed his wife and kept her in a vat of honey and visited her every night! Exactly when did he go insane?! Long before his death.
Herod and Nero sound like they would have made a real pair of insane college buddies. Both were completely mad and also killed their wives. For reference: Nero kicked his second wife to death while she was heavily pregnant, killing both her and the baby.
likely a slur about him coined by his detractors.
He was probably a paranoid schizophrenic (undiagnosed,).
@@mish375 how many rulers can you think of in just our lifetime have used fear and cruelty to stay in power. The more unpopular they become because of their actions the more paranoid they are and rightly so. Take Putin for example.
In 73 BC Rome was still a republic, not yet empire (27 BC), and did not yet possess Judea which was still independent under the Maccabees until 64 BC.
it was under nominal ''roman protection''
The Republic had an empire. Just like the french republic of last century had an empire
@Manley Nelson yes I know that. Your your point being.....?
@Manley Nelson what I said was the Republic had an empire. Meaning before it had an emperor. Just like France or even America. A republic can have an empire.
@Manley Nelson no problem. Cheers
Be careful when you call God a liar. The Bible is His spoken word through the prophets. All of it is true!
What’s even more interesting is that he got his “illness” directly after killing those children. And nobody can seem to put 2 and 2 together that maybe this was his punishment from God for killing all of those children. He didn’t need to be recorded by Josephus. It’s pretty obvious that this is what happened.
The documentary mentioned a Roman fort next to the Temple. I also remember reading, or seeing, that the Roman fort was taller than the actual Jewish temple. This was done unpurpose as to show the Temple Priests "We're watching you! Play by the rules we set out and all is good. Otherwise, we'll dispose of you." That seems to be in keeping with Roman principles of occupation or dealing with peoples not wholly under their rule. Similar situation I read about the Romans, there was a big river, lake that seperated the Roman border from one of the Germanic tribes to the north. The Romans built a bridge to the Germanic side and camped out on the Germanic side and did military drills. The next day, they left. As they did, they took apart the bridge. The moral of the story, we can get to you anytime we wish. The question you want to ask is can you do the same? Thus, impressing upon the Germans who's the real power. enough of my pretentious rant. I'm hoping someone can confirm if that's a true story.
But Josephus stated that it was extremely dangerous in Judea at the time. Indeed the Roman soldier got danger money for posting there.
Like Combat Pay today.
Many of those "Romans" had never been to the City of Rome, and many were born there.
If you screwed up in britain you got posted to palestine if you screwed up there you got posted to Britain to be Scotti food
What does it profit to gain the whole world but loose your soul, sick man Herod was
True.
Breathe Herod was in fact a horrible man who, according to historians of his time, killed his own three sons who plotted against him. But that doesn’t mean he ordered the massacre of thousands of infant males. There is no record of this by those writing in the time of Christ. Matthew’s story is not supported by anyone else, including by Josephus, a reliable source of information.
Or so it is said.
It's what they all do. The rulers of the world
I don't want the world..
I got no where to put it
My take away is that to be a ruler who can unite different people one has to be such a murderous tyrant and praise be given to him because he built things….. no wonder man is in such a horrible state.
That’s just human nature. It’s sad but that’s how reality is
In all I love History especially learning about the biblical stories till now. My bucket list it to go there or travel one day.Jerusalem, Israel. On Gods timing 🙏🏽❤️
Palestine*
Don't stop believing just because some upstart academics decide they don't like the Bible. There are plenty of archeological finds that back up what the Bible says, whereas time and again I've seen these anti God academics lie and/or cover up evidence that doesn't agree with their world view.
I hope you make it to Jerusalem, the city of the Great King.
@@Mister_Hassan *Israel, as Jesus was a jew
@@christophealexander3262 there never was a "israel" and no he wasn't not even in the Bible
@@Mister_Hassan ISRAEL!
Herod killed ALL the children under two years of age not just the males;
*Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.*
Matt 2:16
I never realised it was all children! Thanks
@Ferdinand Vardas Yes, there would have been a lot of angry parents. There's much to unravel here...I'll give you the little help I can;
First, is knowing where to put your trust.
*Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.* (John 17:17)
*He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.* (John 3:33)
*God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.*
(Romans 3:4)
The simplicity in being; believe the word of God or not.
Secondly, Judaea and Galilee were under military occupation. Any that rose up in dissent were killed and dispersed. Here's evidence from the words of Gamaliel, a pharisee;
*For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.*
*After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.*
(Acts 5:36-37)
Do we disbelieve Gamaliel simply because these accounts aren't mentioned in other books of the bible? No, of course not; it's simply about where we choose to put our faith, in the words of God (bible) or the words of men. And if dissenters were slain, then the fear of writing against the powers that be would be great.
God makes sure that believers have his truth - one verse on this matter is sufficient.
Thirdly, the true Levitical priesthood have been usurped and destroyed by the time of the coming of Christ. It's more difficult to explain this in comment form but I've covered it in videos in my John the Baptist playlist; look for a video called 'The Shadow Order' it's the long version you'd want to watch, also a video 'Usurping the Levitical Order'.
Basically, there was no realistic organized opposition to Herod. Zacharias, John's father, was the last Levite with genealogy to the 24 families of the sons of Aaron to serve in the temple...and his son John the Baptist, technically and legally was the last High Priest of Levi. (The book of Malachi and Luke 1 are good scriptures to study for help with the understanding of these matters)
Also there's a great number of indicators in the gospel accounts that the priesthood had been interfered with and corrupted;
*There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.*
(Luke 13:1)
*Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,*
(Matt 26:3)
*But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.*
(John 19:15)
There's a few quick examples of what's going on. Romans interfering with the temple sacrifices, high priests living in palaces and the chief priests worshiping Caesar...if you look at the gospel accounts with clarity, you'll see what's really happening and why angry parents weren't rising up or writing about such things. Maybe there were other accounts and the Romans or priests simply destroyed them.
Hope that helps,
God bless.
Ferdinand, Bethlehem probably had a population of no more than 500-600 people. Micah 5:2 it says, "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, too little to be among the clans of Judah, from you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. That means under twos wouldn’t have been a great number.
Herod was known for committing horrendous crimes against people and that’s probably why this event in an insignificant village in the Jewish area, would be ignored.
@Ferdinand VardasIf only one Gospel spoke of it.. That's enough for me.
@Pat MI believe the bible..
More false history- the Hasmoneans weren’t related to David they were related to Levi. They became king priests in defiance of Jewish law of Davidic lineage. Immudeans converted to Judaism under John Hyronanus
Idumeans should be written as DM, which can be reused to find more information on what Josephus is trying to tell you. Who was (H)asamoneus? You can't tell me can you, but I could tell you. John Hyrcanus, was related to David, you just don't know how to read Josephus, you just read the edited version of Josephus. If John, was related to Onias, then how can you say they don't come from the line of David? Truth is, you can't see that the asamonians, come from the family of Onias.
They ruled according to prophecy in 1Hanokh/Danyal; not in defiance; but stepping up.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction , King Herod had some great accomplices , unfortunately he also had some terrifying ones , also Josephus never wrote anything about king Herod’s killing of the babies , something as horrific as that would never be omitted .
👑👑👑HAPPY 3 Kings Day !🎂...or
THE pathetic PREJUDICE of postmoderne' history laid bare...
The opposite reaction... is the New Testament account...which was never denied in ancient times...Josephus isn't close to being exhaustive about anything...and historians know he makes big mistakes...
"Oh yes... in general King Herod had no qualms ordering mass killings, and for the mildest threats to his power and reign...
but, oh no, ...when something very consistent about Herod, said in the Bible?...we'll have to doubts about that..."
Why??? well..ah...er...the single source for the account is Matthew..."
(actually not true at all... but for now....OK, just for the sake of argument)
1. Are there additional ancient historical sources, other than the one from Josephus, for Herod's individual mass atrocities?....not in general...rather the specific one's, that Josephus does detail and, which apparently historians have no doubts?
...nope
2. Are the any later, critical and ancient, but adversarial historical sources, either denying or suggesting that "the Slaughter of the Innocents", was an invented Christian slur?
...not a one
3. Are there ancient historical sources which, fully accept "the Slaughter of the Innocents" on its face?
...they are legion
...and I have at the ready, references for those interested in the real Herod history, minus anti-Bible bigotry...
It was my understanding from other studies that Herod was an Idumaean and a descendant of Israel's twin brother, Esau. The name Idumea (from Edom, the other name of Esau) was given by the Greeks to the inhabitants of Mount Seir, which is Petra, Esau's land given by God. To call Herod an Arab he would have to be a descendant of Ishmael, Abraham's first son by adultery with his wife's maid, Hagar. But as we do not have Herod's full lineage, with both mothers and fathers, perhaps he had both lines in his blood. They were all related anyway. In any case, it was probably too technical for this history lesson, so they abbreviated the facts. I know that over the last 170 years or so of archaeological activities, hundreds of "learned" men have said that, "this, that, or the other" that was stated in the Bible wasn't true. As time and discovery went on, time and time again the skeptics have been proven wrong through the patient and persistent science of archaeology. I have no doubt that the killing of the infants attributed to Herod in the book of Matthew will some day be proven to be true as well.
I agree 100%. But until then, let's all just assume that Jesus isn't real and the Bible is mythology until we are proven wrong yet again, so that we can continue to "break their bands" and "casts away their cords" (Psalms 2). Nevertheless, " He who sits in the heavens laughs...".
Historic records show a Saul and Phasaelus in King Herod the Great's family tree
King Herod's wife Pallas (one of Herod's lesser wives) had a son named Phasaelus (means Saul and or Paul).
Summery: Phasaelus (Saul/Paul) is King Herod's own son.
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King Herod's with his wife Mariamne I, had a daughter named Cypros II.
King Herod's sister; Salome I with her second husband Costobar had a son named Antipater (Idumeens).
Thus King Herod's nephew Antipater (Idumeens) married King Herods daughter Cypros II, the two cousins had a son name Saul.
Summery: Saul is King Herod's grandson.
Per Historic records Saul/Paul could be either King Herod's own son or else King Herod's grandson.
Citing a lack of evidence elsewhere is NOT evidence. It is exactly, and only, a lack of evidence which proves nothing. Historians do not always record everything, or even get everything correct. Trying to use the silence of Josephus as evidence is rather disingenuous.
Christianity is the easiest religion, all you have to believe in Jesus as a God and the poor will inherit the land.
@@Shai-eg6ew _Paul fails to follow Jesus. Note: the phrase Christian is started with Paul and Barnabas and in turn their disciples where first called Christians in Antioch._
Acts 11:25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
_Jesus taught his disciples to begin Jerusalem, not Antioch._
Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, *beginning at Jerusalem.*
Luke 24:48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
In the Hollywood movie , " King of kings " with Jeffrey Hinter , it's depicted that Herod's son murdered him , to take over the throne..
no
There were several Herod's in succession. People often get them mixed up.
@@thematrix7584 Yes
I watch that movie every year! I thought their rendition was pretty good....
Herod the Great History Crash Course #31: Herod the Great
A madman who murdered his own family and many rabbis, Herod was also the greatest builder in Jewish history.
by Rabbi Ken Spiro
Herod, the Great (not to be confused with Herod Antipas who came later) is one of the most important characters in Jewish history. He was ambitious, cruel and paranoid to be sure, but, nevertheless, he remains a very significant person in the terms of understanding this period of Roman domination of the Jewish people.
The background to Herod's rise to power is the Roman civil war that will transform Rome from a republic into and empire ruled by the Caesars or emperors. In 44BCE Julius Caesar is murdered by Brutus and Cassius who are in turn defeated by Anthony and Octavian in 42 BCE. The Battle of Actium in 31 BCE, is the final showdown between Octaviun and Anthony. Octaviun emerged as the unrivaled victor, changing his name to Augustus and becoming the first Roman emperor.
Herod had originally sided with Anthony but switches allegiance at the last minute and backs Octavian. His last minute support for Octavian earns him Augustus's confirmation as King of Israel.
Herod will reigned as king of Judea from 37 BCE until his death in 4 BCE, a very long reign of 33 years, and in many ways a good period in terms of development of the country and social stability.
Part of the reason for the stability was that during this time, the Romans took a backseat role in the day-to-day life of the Jews.
I think it is more than a coincidence that Herod's story found you... Sometimes when I have questions about something in the bible even pertaining to my life... when the answer presents itself In a sublime simple but maraculous way as also many of my prayers are answered..I believe this is God's way to let is know he is listening to us and he is here in life to help us. We just have to speak to him.
U dont knW THAT...AT ALL...
@@barbsyorkies
AnD nEitHEr dO yOu !!!!
Historians have recorded other similar acts of violence committed by Herod the Great. He murdered at least 45 supporters of one rival. Suspicion led him to cause the murder of his wife Mariamne (I), three sons, his wife’s brother, her grandfather (Hyrcanus), several who had been his best friends, and many others. To minimize the rejoicing that was sure to accompany his own death, he is said to have ordered that the principal men of the Jews be killed when he himself died. That edict was not carried out.
I just love how Rome's bashing of Cleopatra extends to Judea under Harod
you have blended three Herod's, Harod the great's grand son Herod Agripa 73 bc -4bc . Herod Antipas was Jesus's time.
Yes. I have seen this done before too
Markus Agrippa (Herod Agrippa) was 10bc to 44ad. I don't think it's to out of place for people to connect herod and Agrippa, specially if you've read Josephus correctly.
Yes im looking for king herod on jesus time
Can you recommend any Herod documentaries?
@@SecondTake123 urantia book
Absolutely fascinating
First of all you couldn’t be more dead wrong about Herod ordering the death of the baby boys in Bethlehem and surrounding areas to try to kill the young child Jesus for the Bible says “ All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16 and it was foretold long in advance that it would take place at Jeremiah 31:15 we read “ This is what Jehovah says: ‘A voice is heard in Ra’mah, lamentation and bitter weeping: Rachel is weeping for her sons. She has refused to to be comforted over her sons, Because they are no more and at Matthew we see the fulfillment of that prophecy Seeing that he ( Herod) had been outwitted by the astrologers, flew into a great rage, and set out and had all the boys in Bethlehem and in all its districts killed, from 2 years of age and under, according to the time that he had carefully ascertained from the astrologers . Matthew 2:16
The religious need to replace the truth with the lie. Anti-Mashyah does not only mean opposed but replacement in the Greek meaning. typical of Esau to attempt to replace his brother who was his divinely appointed replacement.
Jeremiah31:15, Rachel weeping for her children, doesn't say son's! Her children, from Joseph, the True Israelites! Not jews!
Remember that Josephus’s writings were tampered with long after his death. So not all assumptions are safe.
If Herold could kill his own blood to protect his throne why wouldn't he kill the babies to protect his throne?! I believe Matthew, because he was writing to the Jews at the time stating that Jesus was and is the King of the Jews.
a supernatural event as proof of another supernatural event?
Memory in the future constantly troubles persons who have done bad things in the past.
It's a nice thing to listen Timeline...just in case you miss some things, Bible is abundant too.
I guess Herod was fond of good food and lots of wine,he reached the age of seventy and his kidneys had long weakened due to heavy drinking.
As the kidneys fail,Herod's blood was becoming poisonous,his joints and muscles will ace terribelly,his brain is malfunctioning and make him delirious,hallusinating.
It is interesting to experience the so-called insights of modern scholarship and science ever questioning the wisdom and omniscience of God in giving us the scriptures and apostolic tradition.
I can accept that Herod had all the male children in Bethlehem under the age of two killed. If you think of the population of the area at the time, this would probably have amounted to no more than a dozen or so peasant children, not hundreds or thousands as the narrator quotes at the start of this episode. This is why it doesn't appear outside the Gospels (which don't state the number of children killed either). Since no noble, politically important or Roman children were slain, who cared? Those killed were the sons of peasants and herders, you know, the 'little people'. It's not like there was a CNN or modern media reporting on Herod's activities. Given the times and how brutal Herod was, no one would have noticed.
I think they were not saying the numbers because they are still children- and just because they were born into a lower rank doesn’t make their life insignificant.
@@aliyahplays No, I suspect the numbers were not reported because the Gospels were written several years after the event. Herod's historians would not have recorded it because it would reflect badly on Herod (it is not good propaganda), and it is unlikely the Romans or other high officials would have worried about it either. So, this event, which would have been remembered by the locals, would have remained in collective memory until the writers of the Gospels put pen to paper some 40-70 years later. After that much time, it is unlikely that people would have remembered exact numbers, just that all the children 2 years of age or younger in the area were killed. It is rather like getting exact body counts for massacres like the Holocaust, or Katyn, or the Armenia Genocide. We lack the records to get exact numbers, or even the identities of all the victims.
Also, I wasn't implying their lives were insignificant - that's just how the nobility and leaders of the age would have looked at it. That has pretty much always been the case throughout history until modern times. Do the Viking Sagas speak of how many defenseless peasants were killed? Do the heroic tales of Chivalry speak of the villages that were wiped out? No. Historians of those ages didn't care about the lower classes because weren't related to the "movers and shakers" of the world, therefore "they didn't matter". It is only because of modern media coverage and creation of a more caring society that all people in all levels of society do matter in the eyes of many people.
Seems like something Herods men could do by breakfast and be home for lunch. Done and Done. Guy was Uhhh,, PSYCH O
You sincerely think a king will care about some peasant taking his throne?
@@ogorhenry7154 When you are dealing with superstition, prophecy, and rampant paranoia. We're talking about someone who was murdered at least two of his sons, one of his wives, I believe, and many other relatives. He also spent time towards the end of his life sitting in a chair staring into the desert. So, yes, if he believed Jesus might pose even the remotest threat to his rule, he would kill him.
Great show!
Thank you for this very interesting documentary.
Excellent documentary . I thought his final illness may have been syphylis though chronic renal failure was quite possible . Peter the Great also had renal failure and was insane towards the end of his reign .
Both.
Possibly Fournier's gangrene caused by diabetes.
This documentary suggested he had relations with his dead wife. Think maybe he could’ve contracted a disease from that.
@@mrspeace2u907 😳 that's right. 💯
Richard ... Yeah, I guessed the same thing of syphilis. But, I guess it could be kidney disease also.
After the new science research about the story of Syphilis, found in skelettons of the ancient world: it is obvious: he had the Symptoms and Madness of Syphilis.
Is meaning of Jesus is " Jews God save Christian God" 😭😭😭💔💔💔
@@shubhamraj9986 you doing nowhere I it'shg
Will disagree if he has syphilis , that long, there would be disfigurement, nose , lips etc. history does not record that.
his scratching and heavy drinking might point to a failed liver.
Actually, the number of infants killed in the Massacre of the Holy Innocents was probably no more than 200. That was a week’s work for Herod.- He was notorious for his terrible slaughter of Judeans...
Here we go Timeline is now rewriting history. Making Herold out to be just misunderstood. He wasn't evil he just need a psychotherapist. That's the excuse for every murderer that ever lived.
Lol indeed🎯
King Herald, huh?
@@twistershift may as well be Haraldo
King Herod, what a monster. He even had his sons murdered just to keep kingship of his throne. Obsessed to keep power.
This man has gotten the wrong King Herod... And these Bible Verses below has the answer...
"But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life."
Matthew 2:19-20 KJV
It Matthew wrote about the murders of the innocence and Luke wrote that Jesus was born at that time in Herod's reign then it happened since Herod was paranoid and obsessed with being King of the Jews and a murderer, it happened. He murdered his own sons. So to these historians, Matthew was a liar, yet was preaching the truth of God's word and martyred in Ethiopia.
Nonsense as usual to discredit the Bible.
One thing is for sure: THERE WAS NO "MASSACKER OF INNOCENTS"! Such conduct was strictly forbidden under Roman Law. Such an event would sent shock waves all across the Roman Empire, and Herod would have been tried, and executed himself.