Fallout 2 Marcus' character as shown in dialogue
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- A demonstration of Fallout 2's Marcus' character as shown within dialogue. In the context of Fallout 3, Marcus was 'dipped' with a strain of FEV that was peculiar to the west coast, NOT the one used in Washington, DC. Marcus is intelligent, articulate, speaks easily and fluidly (without the hesistation and shouting tone of the Fallout 3 DC super mutants) and has depth. My understanding is that the west coast type FEV did not cause a decrease of intelligence or an increase in body size as the mutant aged, which is different from the FEV type in Washington DC that is shown in Fallout 3. Marcus was voiced by Michael Dorn and I love the job he did.
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Amazing how developed his character went from 2 to new vegas. He became wise, a great leader trying to help other super mutants seek peace and came to realized while the master's intentions were noble it didn't end well. I bet Ulysses would see Marcus as a potential nation builder.
I would pay to see Ulysses and Marcus have a full conversation with each other.
@Ferbujosbe Don't forget: The Divide, The Divide, The Divide, The Divide, The Divide, The Divide, The Divide, The Divide, The Divide.
@Ferbujosbe *HISTORY, OLD WORLD*
@Ferbujosbe i swear I didn’t know what the fuck Ulysses was babbling about 90% of the time.
“The Bull took your Cheetos. The Bear has your Mountain Dew”
not really, he was pretty much all of those things in fallout 2
Marcus is so cool. I enjoyed Fallout 3, but I really hope we'll see more mutants like Marcus in Fallout: New Vegas.
Bryce M dude, u were right ;)
I can only imagine how happy you were when you saw Marcus when first playing New Vegas.
Oh man, i want to know your reaction when you saw Marcus in New Vegas
@@cosmicdude8282 damn old comment haha! I absolutely freaked out when I heard there was a super mutant town named Jacobstown and ran there straight away. When I saw him standing at the gates it felt like coming home :)
Bryce M So did you decide to come back to this vid after 10 years out of the ordinary or were you notified by RUclips of replies?
I've never heard that vault suit dialogue, the more you know.
Well today I just found out this dude also voiced Mareo from Saints Row 2
I agree. I'm not a big fan of those either (Although I do try to learn more from videos of Fallout 1 & 2.)
Makes me wish i was born in the 80's instead of the 90's so i could play this classic without cringing at the terrible cluttered controls.
this is why the fallout series is great. characters like Marcus
It would be cool to make a fallout movie called Marcus
So that's how Jacobstown got its name...
Howl Marcus talks about it in New Vegas
What a great mutant he would’ve made
Damn I love that line "if they weren't safe with a mutie and a Steel Knight, safe just wasn't going to happen". I have to admit, as a Wastelander, I'd have followed these two for safety too.
@Droxy 56
Super Mutants, as in proper SUPER mutants, don't eat people. Nor are they typically violent. You're mistaking supermutants with FO3 and FO4's orcs.
@@ThatZenoGuy
This is incorrect. Even the master lamented that the vast majority of Mutants are unstable and violent.
@@LightAndDarkMdness02
Notice the word you used, MUTANTS are unstable and violent. SUPER mutants aren't however, hence the name.
@@ThatZenoGuy
Rhonda: You're listening to another edition of Know Your Mutants, with Best Friend Tabitha! So, Best Friend Tabitha, who will we learn about today?
Tabitha: Uhh, I guess it's time we talked about the dumb-dumbs!
Rhonda: Oh, you mean the second-generation super mutants, WHO AREN'T SO BRIGHT?!
Tabitha: That's them! Dumb-dumbs! Uhh... that is, they...
Rhonda: They're very big! And strong!
Tabitha: Yes! They're just as big as other mutants, and as strong as they look. Beyond that, uhm...
Rhonda: And there's a lot of them!
Tabitha: Oh, yeah. Dumb-dumbs are the most common type of mutant that most travelers will encounter, and make up more than half the mutants here in Utobitha.
Rhonda: Best Friend Tabitha, some of our listeners may wonder how you can call them dumb-dumbs on the air like this!
Tabitha: That's a good question, Rhonda!
Rhonda: Thank you!
Tabitha: The truth is, they're so dumb they don't even know that I'm talking about them right now!
Rhonda: And that's another revealing look at mutant-kind. Second-generation super mutants: big, numerous... DUMB! More after this.
(I.e. Any Super mutant not created from what used to be a human vault dweller was the same as an East Coast super mutant. The vast majority of Super mutants in the Master's army were just like super mutants in Fallout 3 and 4.)
Edit: Correction this is referring to Super mutants created by the Enclave. Still, the master makes mention in Fallout 1 that super mutants often come out stupid due to the radiation levels. This is why he wants Vault 13, because there is enough Vault Dwellers there for a proper super mutant army. Every "Wasteland Mutant" enemy in Fallout 1 is a failed intelligent super mutant created from the master trying to FEV the average wastelander. Even without these generic "Wasteland Mutants", you still have Harry, who is so dumb the vast majority of Gen 2s are smarter than him.
@@LightAndDarkMdness02
Tabitha is a schitzoid Nightkin, SUPER mutants are by definition smart, like Marcus, Lou, etc. All other mutants are just that, mutants.
The Master only considered the future of mutants to be those which are superior to humans.
His smoothing voice, his small confident smile, his eyes of trust and the way he narrates his story...
Gosh, he's the perfect friend.
Fallout 2 had incredible voice acting...
The first 2 games @@bhavankarnani4740
He’s the gentle giant
Marcus has to be THE coolest Super Mutant in any Fallout game. I LOVE how he came back in New Vegas.
And even better, Michael Dorn (his voice actor) even reprised the role.
i like how marcus just accepts the fact that the master's plans were foiled, and he doesn't seem bitter about it. then again, 80 years is a long time to get over something.
That’s part of what makes him such a great character. No matter how twisted an ideology is, there will always be people who adhere to what was trying to be accomplished. There are real world examples of this (Stalinism, colonialism), and oftentimes these people are genuinely good people who help their communities. Gives it all complexity. Marcus still believes in the Master’s vision, and it’s interesting to hear his side of things. Gosh what a great game, new Vegas did him justice too.
"Muties and normals made peace a long time ago"
Bethesda apparently forgot about that
EDIT: And to all of you "bUt tHe lORe!" folks?... So what? You think lore just magically pops up out of nowhere and developers have no choice but to write around it lol? Lore is made to accommodate writing and game design decisions, not the other way around. Super Mutants in 3 and 4 are just another raider faction because Bethesda wanted a bunch of generic "scary green orcs" faction for you to shoot at rather than put in the work into creating an actually interesting and well written faction like what 1, 2 and New Vegas had already made
Wouldn't it have been cool im Fallout 4 if there was a super mutant settlement that wanted to trade with human settlements and you gotta bring the peace
I mean, bethesda's writing is a joke, but at least they tried to respect the original work by setting their games in the east coast, at least it's a good excuse for things to be so differently made
@@lvnhdmnn Too bad they retcon a lot of things from the West Coast.
They made peace but only on the west coast... bethesda has made lore on the east coast
Bethesda that Bethesda this smh. People just don't care about the lore and curse Bethesda for everything wrong with Fallout series.
Sure Bethesda did make some changes that you might consider 'retcon'. But those changes are probably the reason why people are still playing Fallout series to this day.
Isn't Marcus in fallout new Vegas?
Yeah he is, him and some other super mutants reside in a lodge-like settlement called Jacobstown. The location is up north west near the mountains.
Named after jacob
Je Javier Never forget ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Yep
Yeah, it's really cool to see some old faces from the older Fallouts. It brings me back.
his "pimples" popped in fallout new Vegas hes got literally craters in his face now
Too bad that he don't become a companion in Fallout New Vegas.
I wish he had more to do in New Vegas.
Maybe he would have more to do if Bethesda didn't set 18 months deadline to Obsidian.....
pirotess2 wouldn't make sense. In FNV Marcus needs to stay with his mutant kind as they need a leader
He done his time.
@@Stryker98 He did leave his town behind once to follow the Chosen One. I mean, he was Sheriff and Mayor of Broken Hills and left the town as the mine crisis was averted.
We will get to meet up with Marcus again in Fallout: New Vegas.
Oh, and still voiced by the same guy.
It's gonna be awesome! I wonder what kind of stories he'll have to tell...
TestECull im sure he would have had heaps of stories if bethesda gave obsidian longer than 18 months to make the game
Aw classic comment
Heh, I actually find this pretty sweet. I never played Fallout 2 but I loved him in Fallout New Vegas, he was pretty sweet and now I understand why it's called "Jacobs Town".
He had no stories lmao they had no time for the game development
@@lifeisbutamoment lel 11 years on
Masters plan is pretty much a failure since some mutants do fight each, especially the nightkins, if the player character in new Vegas ask that shouldn't they listen to each other since they're both mutants, Marcus response was "its like saying Caesar would actually listen to kimbell "
The Master was psychic and controlled the mutants with his telepathy,the supermutants bent to his will as a collective.
It was a failure because super mutants are sterile without exception.
master was a dick,we Got A In Scary Radioactive Creature And then The Human have to Face Another New Tough Hybrid Creature(Deathclaw,Supermutant, other his creation)
He Just make the wasteland even worse
@@jokester3076
Yep. Really the only reason his plan wouldn't have worked is because super mutants can't reproduce without transforming humans, meaning super mutants have an immovable population cap.
@@ob2kenobi388 unless they let some humans stay and use them for generation of new humans to dip
better sheriff than lucas simms XD
WELL I’LL BE DAMNED! ANOTHER NEW COMER!
Lol 6 years later.
Why do you knuckle draggers always insist on doing things the hard way?
Why the hell did bethesda make a fallout game if they are just going to retcon all the lore?
Because their writer is a fucking joke who contradicts his own stuff because he "wanted some fun"
+Luke Mills and that's todd howard
Yeah, fun. Remember that thing that games are meant to be?
Except fallout 3 and 4 are fucking neither.
wait they retconed 1 and 2? your kidding me right?
Play fallout 1 and it helps you understand better. The FEV virus has a number of possible outcomes for the people dipped. Some mutants come out with their prior knowledge intact, some come out with memories erased, some get dumb - and some don't survive at all and die a horrible death.
Well his role in New Vegas makes a bit more sense now.
What an incredible voice he has
It’s Michael Dorn. No one realizes it for some reason
@@jaredvincent3323 He is a Klingon after all
Guys I have a Theory on who Marcus was before being a Mutant.
"My memories of being a human aren't as clear as they once were, but I remember pettiness, hatred, jealousy... I prefer being a mutant."
Richie Marcus: a "mentioned only" character from the New Vegas add-on Old World Blues.
Marcus may remember, those negative emotions, but maybe they weren't his. Maybe they belonged to Doctor Bourous. Who was bullied by Richie Marcus.
***** Im more concered with the fact the super mutant Marcus and Ricky Marcus were made from 2 diffrent dev teams the IP of fallon was sold to Bethesda when the guys who started fallout went bankrupt how ever biological life span wise its possible Harold the Ghoul who knew the master a 8ish when the bombs fell so maby Marcus was an old man when he got dipped a possible theory but dont put stock in it
***** good point and you may be right but dont gamble on that idea all the same
when i heard " richie marcus " marcus came into my mind right away
@@An_Ian Well, not exactly. While 7 years have passed and I imagine by now you figured this out already, I feel the need to respond. Fallout New Vegas was published by Bethesda, but *developed* by Obsidian, which, at the time, still had *many* of the old Fallout 1 and 2 devs in it.
That "if all humans" line has really stuck with me for the longest time.
True. The worst armies in the world couldn't have mustered a single troop if the soldiers could have exercised their free will-fought for what THEY believed in instead of on someone else's behalf. I definitely wish I could actually sit down and discuss that with Marcus, and see how he would feel about specific aspects of his belief system. Does he believe in pure individuality of everyone doing what they want free from outside influence, or does he simply believe that people would innately be drawn to peace were they not so keen on their own greed?
When your video game makes someone wish they could talk politics with one of your characters, you know you've got some great writing on your hands.
@@ob2kenobi388 The issue is how a person forms their beliefs and how it relates to them and the people around them. There are so many different groups and types of people that it is unfair to expect everyone to merge into one, especially when it puts their identity, culture or beliefs in almost inevitable danger of destruction, especially if theirs is much less prominent or is the one that's being pushed out or their core values are not being met by the new collective.
Lieutenant Worf!
I was gonna sayyyy
Funny how every fictional revolutionary tends to have the name Marcus
Example?
@@ob2kenobi388gears of war
@@branstone
Never played it (I was born in 2001 lol), but sure
@@ob2kenobi388 so was I, and the game was around our early 2000s gaming era
@@branstone
I was also a Nintendo child lol-I've never played any of the Xboxes.
one of the most beloved character in the lore, acted so perfect. wonder if there is any detailed information about their relationship. ''if they weren't safe with a mutie and a Steel Knight, safe just wasn't going to happen" Id follow em too probably
The meanest, roughest, toughest bastards in the Wasteland for sure.
I loved these talking heads. They were so effective. I get nervous that I might make them mad.
True. Except for decker. Fuck that guy in particular
Such a simple yet effective dialogue, why they can't do it today..
Because good writing doesn't sell as well as fun gameplay. Sad truth is, most players probably care less about why they're shooting someone and more about whether it's satisfying to do so. HBomberguy talked about it in his Fallout 3 video-how all of the reviews for the game when it came out had pictures of the player shooting someone in VATS, and the devs may have spent more time and effort modeling the 3d chunks of someone's head getting blown apart than they spent on whether some of the _main characters_ of their story were properly written or had motivations that made sense or whether that head was filled with actual interesting thoughts before you put a bullet in it. It's a good vid, you should watch it.
Am I the only one here who actually likes every *single* Fallout Game produced despite the differences?
Jacob Sailer your wrong
Not to be a dick, but it's you're, not your. You are wrong, not your like yours. People will respect you more, and your opinions, if you present them in a correct manner.
As long as you're excluding BoS...
meh to each their own although does that include fallout brotherhood of steel inhaven't played it but i heard it proper crap
Marcus is one of my favorite characters in all of Fallout, because he’s such an interesting creature.
He's my favorite too, also Fawkes and Uncle Leo.
I really hate how all of the mutants in fallout 4 were screaming simpletons
Kinda wish Marcus had his own unique in-game sprite. He looks awesome when you're talking to him.
Fun fact some important characters are voiced by Star Trek actors, the two famous ones are Mr. House Odo from Star trek DS9 and Marcus of course Worf from Star trek TNG and DS9.
Marcus' demeanor easily makes him feel like the type of guy you wanna invite to the bar to have a drink and share stories with.
Fawkes and Marcus are like the smartest super mutants I've seen in Fallout. :D
what about neil?
@@urbanmyths95 Yeah he's alright.
I think Marcus is the only mutant that dosent have a rope on his lips his teeth aren't showing like other mutants
Marcus: *YOU MEAN THE ONE WHO KILLED THE MASTER AND DESTROYED THE VATS!?*
Chosen One: "...Yes?"
Marcus: "Aye no biggie."
notice he goes on about his good friend jacob, and in new vegas marcus pretty much runs jacobstown? just me or do you all reckon marcus named jacobstown after his friend after he left black mountain?
In New Vegas, Marcus mentioned that he named the place Jacobstown after a friend of his. That'd be Jacob. Lol I'm replying on a 10 years old comment btw
kinda strange that this type of Audio reminds me of the 70's but at the same time feels that his voice is a bit croaky honestly due to his mutation, the later Fallout NV seemed that he sounded more clearly younger. Im just saying.
@Alieneater1239 You do realize these games came out in 1997-1998 right? Obviously you don't know how expensive it was to do fully animated, digital figures heck only important characters were given a 'talking head' and technology hadn't advanced far enough for that stuff to be done in the game engine.
Maybe you should learn to research before spouting nonsense?
Hey Worf. How you doin? Kinda strange to see you here instead of on Enterprise.
Lt. Worf
هولي شت إذا هذا صوته وهو سوبر ميوتن كيف شكله وهو بشري
Marcus and Lily the only good super mutants. And maybe Fawkes.
F¤ck Strong.
What about the guy from far harbor that had a lot of dogs?
+Oscar Gonzalez Erickson is a good super mutante too.
What about good ol' uncle Lee? He's a gem.
Ivan Florêncio what about Neil?
Love Marcus. He's my fav NPC
I have a stupid question. What's the difference between the two FEV viruses?
After Five years, this old comment received a reply.
Shadow Reaper priceless
Shadow Reaper nice
@@shadowreaper5413 True
@@55super55 no false
Worf became Super Mutant!! Holy Shit!
Marcus is the best Fallout character. Change my mind.
harold
His voice sounds different compared to in New Vegas.
Marcus isn't a merry man
*Qapla',* Marcus! And may you have *honour!*
I love how Marcus despise still having the same mindset and still agreeing with the Master he is a kind person who doesn't impose his ideas, and doesn't look back at history with hate.
Everyone should be like Marcus
Ain't that Worf from ST:TNG?
10 years later but yes, yes it is
@@batman6621 Better late than never.
We all need a Marcus in our lives :)
I hope to become a Marcus
@Linguma new vegas was basically the sequel to fallout 2
GO WARF!
I never played fallout 2 cuz I'm 14 and cant find away to play it so I assumed he named it after the chosen one
My favorite follower from the Fallout series, with K-9 a close second.
@RougeTemplar Marcus my nigga!
new vegas gave a lot of people closure who waited so expectantly for Van Burgen
This is so bizarre and lunatic, marcus criticize the "mass" but theirs ultimate goal was to become a world encompassing mass of flesh, achieved through rape, so him complaining about "the mass destroying everyone" is kinda hypocritical. I guess it is your average kabbalist. Also to see how the player isnt offered any real rebuttal options make it seems very "my original character built around my religion of rape is right, nah! Not allowed to disagree".
WORF, SON OF MOGH
@noSW3AT1
three
the one in DC was a Prototype, which is why they were so different
FEV mk2 what the master used was design to make the next gun of humans, better in everyway, but variy based on a persons rad level,the lower the smarter. Marcus and Lou being how its suppost to work, whille Harry being how off it can. Gen 1's however then to be above ave to a human.
The one the Evlace use was disign to be shock troopers (as they didn't like mutants of any kind) so they were dumber
Micheal Dorn
Great actor
I wish there was an option to convince the master that even though mutants couldn't replace humanity they could still coexist. It's obviously useful to have them around in the wasteland.
ah, so dorn played Horrigan and marcus, coolness.
oh then he named the town after his friend.....man the fallout series is intresting and great
This small talk type of dialog is what is missing in Bethesda fallout. Among other things.
Michael Dorn voices Marcus, and Frank fucking Horrigan
Michael Dorn
Cool to know he’s in vegas
@KyleSaysWhat Seriously. When I saw him, I fell in love with him! I like him way more than Fawkes.
He also voices Frank Horrigan
Man i really Wish Goris made a comeback in New Vegas like Marcus did
Crazy how Marcus knew 3 of the main characters in the fallout series, I really hope he shows up in the show too
Wow, I've never seen the first two fallout games before.
he's in a place in jacobstown in new vegas
I wish I had his voice
I just realized it’s Worf wtf
it's WORF!
Heh, I started with FO3, but the difference is I'm going back and actually playing the old ones :) I like them quite a bit more then I expected (just beat FO1, moving on to 2)
i like how new vegas had him as the leader of jacobstown
god damn, I've never played fallout 2, but I got completely sucked in to this dialogue. Delivery is amazing too.
I wanna play the old fallouts so bad, no PC though :(
Stoned Shenanigans Same. They seem so badass.
Play 1 and 2 as soon as you get the chance they're both great.
If you have a laptop you can buy them on steam and play them.
@TestECull Depressingly little, as it turns out. Less dialog then a single conversation string from fallout 2.
didnt change abit in new vegas
Super mutants are literally klingons
According to Bethesda, they're orcs.
@nclanceman It may have had to do with radiation or it may have been exposure to a mutated airborne FEV that resulted from the Chinese bombing the research facility that created FEV. In either case, untouched, pure strain humans (like vault dwellers) would produce the desirable super strong, super intelligent Super Mutants.
I saw marcus in fallout new vegas
@Alieneater1239 No, lol. The advanced tech back then was mostly good for FPS games, and perhaps MMOs. They could have used a 3d engine but why would they back then? For machines to be able to handle it at the time it came out it would have ended up looking like crap. And if everyone "returned" the fallout games they purchased, Bethesda wouldn't have made fallout 3, and they certainly wouldn't have hired the old devs for new vegas.
@mattvitt117 The old King arthur one?
good writing
originally he doesnt sound like that ! i have offical registered Fallout 2 product and his voice is completely different...its very low pitched, slow talking a bit whispering...it sound somethin like that...i dont know whats version in this video...
oh God i wonder when people will start to understand questions better before making stupid answers...he's saying that his voice ingame originally differs from voicein this video, that put up on youtube...
@MasterJean72 fuck, I know right.
Back in NV!
yeah, isn't that the story in the terminal at black mountain?
@TestECull I hope he is a follower.