Same haha at least for a while or I don't pay much attention on WAN Show or random videos where they talk about a competitor of something I bought recently
@@Jrakula10that’s sadly not how it works, at someplace point it will no longer work for you due to that tech product not being supported or powerful enough to meet your needs.
Technology evolves so quickly these days, just as you think you have the latest model, a new one pops up! Props for Hisense pushing the boundaries and upping their game in the face of such strong competition.
At least CPUs and GPUs are starting to hit the edge of functioning transistor size, so a late gen product won't be significantly outclassed for quite a while. Monitors still have room for improvement, but even there, we'll start seeing diminishing returns in newer models.
Lol, his theater room is already bigger than the biggest room in my house, and he'd probably have to expand it to do that effectively. I'm excited for 2030 when Linus has to book a flight to low Earth orbit so he can show off his latest TV.
Wish i had rich people problems only 😂 not knowing the next expensive trip i'm gonna have, not knowing how long of a soothing bath i should take, cold or hot water for my hair!? Not knowing the next expensive tv i'm gonna get, man... Life kinda sucks with so many difficult concerns
@@Junakiba966 I am approximately on your level, but it's obvious that being that rich and having so much responsibility and liability is insanely stressful. Employee troubles, dealing with corporations, company performance, the stress is insane.
At least I hope they're actual 1080p and not the fake 1080p my TV as a monitor has. If it wasn't for some digital trickery and MS ClearType it would be unusable for productivity and web browsing.
i went from basically your setup to a qd oled and i thing the jump is so significant that it doesn’t even feel like an upgrade, they just feel like different products entirely lol
"This is what buyer's remorse feels like." Lol, it's like watching Linus being back in the 90s when you'd spend $2999 on a pc that would be eclipsed 2 months later.
The rule of thumb back in the 90's was you got about 1 year for every $1000 you spent. In 1995 I dropped $3000 on a Pentium 90Mhz which was the fastest cpu you could get. 3 years later I had to get a Pentium 2 at 233Mhz to run Ultima online. Today the system I built a system in 2016 was still perfectly fine for my needs that I only just replaced back in March because the motherboard was beginning to die.
I did the math on Linus' 8k TV. The 20 whatever it was thousand dimming zones were 10 by 10 pixels each. If that new TV has the same resolution and twice the zones, then the zones are 7 by 7 pixels.
well a 110 inch isnt for all day use, tho in my house we use a living room projector 130 inch and bascically screen tv and news daily. best option tho is to get a tv rolling stand and put on it a 55-65 inch and use that for daily news with the 100 inch and above screens for the movie experiences.
why people is so concerned with peak brightness? if i set the brigthness of my tv at 50% my eyes automatically burn, and this in a bright room! impossible to watch tv with more than 15% brightness in a dim enviromnet. if you want to see something in hdr you have to be in a very bright room, because your eyes will burn with the maximum brightness of the tv if watching in a low ligtht room! so no HDR in a "cinema-like" environment. i really don't see any sense in this brightness war!
you can adjust the room settings. Its actually true, more brightness = better. It's not just brightness, there's contrast and many other things as well. OLED stands out even in a dark room.
the problem is a dark room is much more immersive than a bright room, like in a cinema. how can i watch tv in HDR in a dark room if the brightness needs to be so high for hdr to work? my eyes will melt.@@DungxxHen
You know what should you guys do when labs gets things going? For each category find a point at which technical difference is near imperceptible to human. I.e. response time or how deep black colour is for displays. Because at some point, technical difference might not even mean much if lesser option is cheaper AND that difference is imperceptible to humans.
Exactly. Linus has spoken about how he feels conflicted about supporting mindless consumerism as part of his job when his heart lies with practicality and good value Focussing on what is actually subjectively valuable to human perception would be a great way to honour those values.
. 25mm thicker won't give you much but 10gms more heavier might. Best combo is no glass back but a plastic one and aluminum or a plastic side rail to reduce weight while still having great battery. @@zyeborm
It may be quite difficult to test that, but they kinda did that with FPS, when they tested with an e-sports professional whether more FPS improves your accuracy. That was prime LTT content. LTT is no stranger to double blind tests either, so I could see them do that once they have enough labs data to make sure the differences they are testing for are technically there to begin with.
@@LRM12o8Ehhhh I wouldn't call that empirical data, There wasn't a large enough sample size. You'd need a large enough sample size to scale the % across a wider scope. Argument sake, let's say they Wana use that data for a 1000 people, they'd need at least %10 to say anything with authority on such metrics. Ge 1 in 10 saw x difference in smoothness when at y frame rate.
"I can imagine a lot of dentists, doctors, or other professionals struggling to load one of these into their Cybertruck in the BestBuy parking lot" 😆 nailed it.
Man I really hope Dennis came up with that ad himself because it's probably the best ad LTT has ever done and It wouldn't be if it weren't him doing the ad
I wonder how TCL was able to avoid whatever the LG patent is (or if we will see "LG sues TCL for patent infringement" at some point in the near future)
From what I remember in that video, the LG patent was set to expire in the U.S. in 2024. I'm guessing that is why these aren't launching until Q3 or Q4. For sale the day the patent expires.
LMFAO!! Patience is a Virtue Linus. Hope you learned something. You NEVER jump on the very first model release of ANYTHING! You ALWAYS wait for the next Gen Models like the ones you are seeing here in this video. :)
Well said. Okay this is crazy. ME looking for REAL LIFE Hisense U8N!!!! EF that. I found it. In home turf they release the next year model usually the December of the previous year. I remember seeign that tv n didnt think much when I was looking for u8k , ux review. DAMNNNNN the U8N look NICE. N last week as I am looking for 2024 UX again..try to see “real consumer uploaded image”. I SAW that Hisense version the -WALL 200” -DAMN it’s HUGE. Their stuff so premium. Ppl actually treat them like Samsung. The U8N 65” is like $1400 (ON sale price, chinese new year new launch sale) ….ME in Canada, n others in UK,Germany, Aus all pay that price but more around $1500 for 65” . Only USA ppl pay like $999 still mad it’s “not perfect” lol.
Two totally different products. "The Frame" is just a qled tv with a matte finish and some special wall mount options such that it can look more like an art work when it is in in screen saver mode. "The Wall" is a micro-led tv which is probably the best image quality you can get right now, but it is ridiculously expensive (80k to 220k). It is expensive because each sub-pixel is a separate LED; inorganic LED, so no burn in and much brighter than OLED.
As a owner of a 55 inch Hisense U8H I'd say buyers beware. In 5months of ownership it's failed several times where it had to be restarted to avoid flickering and black lines. 1 of the HDMI 4k 120hz ports appears to have failed and despite running same settings today vs 5months ago whites have turned more gray. Red still looks a bit off sometimes
DUDE my friend bought $4000 TV made in Japan, arrive already broken. 2nd panel arrive also broken. Took 3rd panel. This happens to all TVs. My 2 Hisense,,,flagship $2450 USD later running fine. Also my buddy’s 65” U7H fine. Yeah u got bad luck.
@@birdtj82 Yeah maybe bad luck and I did buy extra 3 year warranty through Amazon for cheap since Hisense TV's are known to ship out bad batches. My issue is that the panel is failing way sooner than my old Vizio 4k TV which only showed same symptons as my Hisense after 8 years vs a few months of Hisense. Vizio is a crap brand now but was decent value 9 years ago.
@@AwesomeDers i know i got u. It can be frustrating. I would too. Me on d opposit. My both Hisnse flagship I bought NO waranty. So i feel more like fool that i didnt pay extra service plan. I know for sure i would be in worse shoes than u if my fav tv just broke . Yeah on d country My frigin $330 SONY xm4 ear buds broke. So i am more mad at that they stlll haven’t shipped me replacement n taking 3 months, it’s unreal. Turn out SONY ill sending ppl software update to like fast sending those ear buds to early death. Butched it made them die so fast n obvious. They cover up is “honest mistake, we give u free repair(not even bran new)” its so skechy i am still shocked i dont know how many hundreds of thousands Sony xm4 ppl complaining. Others just turning blind eyes. So yeah i hear ya. Like it only annoying when it happens. Did u get it replaced tho?? It’s funny lately if u read reviews. It seems Amazon Hisense has high failure rate. Strange. I saw Amazon reviews so many “damaged upon delivery” n on Bestbuy is like not even 1%. Wonder if Amazon cut corners hire 3rd party shipping , n those contractors hire like despite migrants like low pay n just tossing tv around. Just saying tho. So many ppl are putting together the Amazon Tv has high damage rate during shipping.
@@AwesomeDers okay i hope u get yr tv addressed dude. U8H such great tv. I tried to buy the 75” like JUSt SOLD out for 3 months where i was at. So i got no U8H. U got a better panel than mine there.
@@birdtj82 Hisense has notorious quality control, as in they have almost zero QC on their products. Its a complete bet to what you will get. And their customer care and warranty is absolutely the worst.
I am going to try the sponsors product. I have Somy WH1000-XM5s. The right ear cup collects condensation on the mic diaphragm which leads to all kinds of awful sounds. It can be fixed by removing the ear pad, wringing out the foam inset under that and then carefully mopping up with qtips and them blowdrying on low for about 5 minutes. This is a PITA that no other headphones has made me live with. If Wicked Cushions can fix it so this doesn happen any more, I will post my experience on my redit thread about the problem.
Dude so random this is tv review . Did u have issue with SONY ear buds too? Their Xm3 falls out like heavy mushrooms. Their Xm4 broken by stupid Sony software update, that broke my ear buds permenantly , doing a repair under table for customers…..i still have NOT received it after 2 months. They literally made statement” ooops we sent a software update, some ear buds got destroyed, but we get urs repaired (not even give me new). How is xm5 . Do they fall out ears n heavy? I am so used to apple ear bud pros now, lol in my time of waiting. 😂
I'm trying to remember the size of the tv my brothers and parents were looking at when Neil walked on the moon. Whatever was 'huge' for the time, I am pretty sure we didn't have it.
I don't know about the cooling gel part. But I can tell you that I recently bought a set of wicked cushions for my corsair virtuoso headset and they're great. The so-called "premium" pads from corsair are absolute garbage and fell apart way too fast but I can tell these are definitely higher quality. Thank you to corsair for making them replaceable even if their "premium" pads were a huge letdown on a 200+ dollar headset.
Paused after 27 seconds, epic rant. Genuine, true and to the point. I imagine that was you with the "spy balloons" trying to smuggle the TV out of China. After 4 attempts and 9 months, you finally get it just to see the exact same tv a week later in Vegas.
Linus is about to "test" another tv at his home before accidentally keeping it cause it's "too cumbersome to move" then get his team to move it when he's cool spending the payroll to do it and I love it let's see this tv in his theatre :)
Yeah I went to buy Sound bar in Besrbuy tested so many . Sonos , BOSE , SONY . I had to get Sonos ARC level to get Slight “better “. Me n my family turned around went home .
That's the joy of buying the latest and greatest tech, Linus. There will always be something that tops it tomorrow! But seriously though, TV and Monitor tech is insane!
Plus you get to experience ALL of the growing pains of this new technology and sometimes as a bonus: the disappointment of most content not properly supporting it. 😂 But hey, somebody's gotta do it, else we'll never get these cool new technologies! Pour one out for the early adopters, they're really taking one (or many) for the team! O7
i opened my backdoor to see who was playing loud music but it turns out it's the very low level bass sound from the showfloor. Sounded like loud music from a far distance through a house. Lol
I love this, I figured there would be something bigger coming out at CES but slightly bigger than the screen for his projector would have been? That's pretty cool When do we get the de-install of the 115-in TV and the install of this bigger, better one?
High Five. Same here. It took NO convencing. My family walk to Bestbuy looking at SONY , n they got Angry walk out lol. Cuz u go back to store started to see funny pestle colors out of sudden that we did not notice on Sony before. Their demo is turned up tho. But as soon as as playing somethign like RUclips n etc real stuff. Just doesnt look as vibrant.
1:09 Idk if this was what you were talking about, but you should defo not worry about their competetiveness. I wanted a TV for my room practically just for watching netflix before sleeping, and my budget was pretty low. Ended up with a 4k, 60 hz 55'' TV from Hisense, for 400 dollars, don't know about other places but here in northern Europe where I live that's practically unheard of and undercutting literally the entire market.
One thing that doesn't get talked about that much is the *reflective surface of TVs?* I personally don't like TVs that reflect the room lighting (or your projections) while turned on tbh.
I stopped buying cameras when they stopped making the DSLR mirrored type. I can’t imagine the remorse I’d have if I went down the mirrorless road. I’m glad I can’t feel your pain!!!!😅😅😅😅😊
transparent test, you could test the brightness of an object with nothing between the sensor, and then see how much of that brightness you lose when you put the transparent display in between the light source/sensor. so if you calibrate your lightsourse to about 1000 nits, and you get a reading of 890 nits with the display in between, your display has 89% transparency (or 11% translucency).
@@penfold-55 They're really dumb for TVs, but I think they serve as a stepping point for other more logical applications like AR (or in all likelyhood, digital signage)
The only thing is CES & new TV announcement has happened in every January for decades, then you have to wait till at least April for them to be released, so if you want the newest TV never buy after November.
Do you take apprentices? You've inspired me for years to get into PCs and the ever evolving world of tech and im always looking for new opportunities to learn. Honestly any computer company that anyone could recommend that has good apprenticeships or entry level positions that would be so sick
❤❤❤ love the video. So many ppl have NOT own Hisense Flagship just mocking it. ME coming from $2500 n $4000 Japanese TVS…..d ONLY tv measured up were Hisense n Samsung flagship both. But HIsense was google tv n has dobey vision Atmos, BEST speakers , and amazing price. It was NO brainer. Never looking back. 🎉
Linus is the best at what he does. The energy, the density of information while being objective. And I don't think it was scripted. On the floor, on demand.
its all buissness expense that gets reducted from his taxes, basically free. he just makes a video on it and justify for the IRS. ahahahah perfect scheme it seems. if multi milioneres do it with private jets why cant linus
@@MrDragonorp He explicitely said that now the tv is officially in his basement or wherever, he cannot make a tax deduction anymore because it is a private expense!
I am even more happy with my decision to go home theater projector. TVs may be a lot brighter, but they cost 10 times as much and you have to pay to have anything over a 75" set up in your house because you can't do it by yourself. I have a 150 inch screen and it is amazing. My Optoma HD142X home theater projector from 2016 is still amazing and the bulbs are now only $70 to replace every 3 years approximately. I got 5000 hours out of the last 2 bulbs I got from Amazon. If it ever breaks I will get a 4K Optoma projector but the 1080P looks great to me.
Or have a smaller screen with much better picture quality? I can never be okay with the picture quality of projectors, even if "they're so much larger"
So basically what I'm getting from this, is that Linus bought a Chinese giga-TV and was blown away by it, and then all the other manufacturers went "Oh people want giant fancy TVs? Ok" and whipped up a product to beat the Chinese model xD
Most of these are Chinese. All the manufacturers were waiting to launch their new US ranges at CES but Linus couldn't wait and imported one (complete with Chinese menus).
Linus bought a Chinese TCL giga TV. He had to buy the Chinese version because it wasn't available globally. Then shortly after, TCL announces a global version and Hicense, another Chinese company, announces an even better version
@@davidk.d.7591 I mean he's gonna have a 115" half a year before any normal consumers can. Unless the new ones cost like half and twice better it isn't a bad thing after all.
I wish i had your problems.. we have a hisense tv too, but its 50 inch, and 1080p resolution, no hdr, no dimming zones.. 😄 thats what working people have 😜
The race for brightness is really odd to me. I watch in my living room and from my bed. I have both 65" 4k TV's (from like 5 years ago) set to lowest brightness because it hurts my fricking eyes when there is something bright on the screen. Am I the only one that prefers to not get physicaly hurt, even though image quality might not be the best of the best? :O
Same with PC monitors for me, when I'm using mine at night in my room with just a lamp on I have to have the screen brightness at almost the lowest possible setting or else it feels like the thing is burning my retinas out.
@@rtmclean484 Yeah, i do the same. But on PC i use a handy little software called "Monitorian". It adjustes screenbrightness for all my 4 PC monitors with just one software slider for all of them. It's a very neat little program and i hated having to go to monitor settings to do that. At daytime i use them pretty bright.
1:29 I'm sorry but you can literally see the light bleed from the hisense logo. I get it, it's competitive with an oled because of price and size, but the contrast sounds pretty talked up just from what we can see in the video.
I had a 55. Got a 65 a few months back when it got glitchy. Want my 55 back. Its the same brand and price point, but I have never had such exhaustion in my eyes than I do now. I don't sit right in front of this thing by any means, but overall, I don't need a theater experience for YT, which is the majority of content I watch these days. Ive learned size isn't everything.
They better get the heat under control, i just bought the 100u8k and even on smaller sets the heat is fr lol, 40k mini leds in a tight chamber will definitely cause some heat
Only time I get buyers remorse is when a short time later something better for the same price is available. I'm talking within the month. An exception is, you needed it right then. In that case it doesn't matter what comes out later, you didn't have access to it when you needed it. The other exception is, is the better product really better enough to matter in the first place. I'll give an example of both. I bought my steam deck 64GB 1 month prior to the oled being announced. I was a bit miffed but, the model I got does the job I paid for and I already replaced the 64GB SSD with a 2TB SSD and bought a D Brand case for it which again, isn't available for the OLED, yet.
Those The Wall things from Samsung look amazing. I love stuff like Samsung's The Frame, which basically a The Wall in a size that fits in my living room. Having an almost completely borderless screen is just aesthetically pleasing to me. Don't go and make my TV pretty (except the screen when it is on), make it so that I don't even notice that it is there when it's switched off (I basically never use the picture gallery stuff anyway). They also calibrate nicely and easily, which is something I haven't seen HiSense panels do. Those things are a battle to get set up with some colour accuracy. Also, those Frames and Walls have wonderful cable management. Not having to plug everything into the back of the TV, but into a little box that I can stash into the cabinet is just nice. Why don't all TVs do that?
What are some valid use cases for transparent screens, other than AR in a mobile device? The only thing I can think of is literal high tech house window replacement that can visually transport you to exotic locations. But I imagine direct sunlight might either damage it or prevent it from displaying a useful image.
I work at Best Buy and no longer trust hi sense with how much people return those things. Most of the tvs, even the most expensive ones, have the lifespan of a fruit fly with progeria
"this is what buyer's remorse feels like" That's why every time I buy something tech related I stop informing myself of that niche lol
Same haha at least for a while or I don't pay much attention on WAN Show or random videos where they talk about a competitor of something I bought recently
ignorance is bliss. buy it when its top of the line and ignore everyone for the rest of time. you now have top of the line forever :)
And yet Google doesn't get the memo and you still get AdSense ads for that product segment for months afterward.
Same!!
@@Jrakula10that’s sadly not how it works, at someplace point it will no longer work for you due to that tech product not being supported or powerful enough to meet your needs.
Technology evolves so quickly these days, just as you think you have the latest model, a new one pops up! Props for Hisense pushing the boundaries and upping their game in the face of such strong competition.
It's not even a recent trend. It's been that way for decades.
@@_IHateHandles_ to be fair, it doesn't happen every year
A.I is only going to get better. It is mind boggling the stuff they make now a days
At least CPUs and GPUs are starting to hit the edge of functioning transistor size, so a late gen product won't be significantly outclassed for quite a while. Monitors still have room for improvement, but even there, we'll start seeing diminishing returns in newer models.
Buy this one, and keep the other one to. The ultimate double monitor setup
Now that’s innovation
That's how you look 180 without a curved monitor.
Imagine the monitor arms...
The old one in portrait.
Lol, his theater room is already bigger than the biggest room in my house, and he'd probably have to expand it to do that effectively. I'm excited for 2030 when Linus has to book a flight to low Earth orbit so he can show off his latest TV.
This goes beyond “1st world problems” and goes straight into “ceo of successful media company problems”
Rich people provlems
🤓Uhm achtually he is the Chief Vision Officer not the CEO of LMG
Logan Roy problem
Wish i had rich people problems only 😂 not knowing the next expensive trip i'm gonna have, not knowing how long of a soothing bath i should take, cold or hot water for my hair!? Not knowing the next expensive tv i'm gonna get, man... Life kinda sucks with so many difficult concerns
@@Junakiba966 I am approximately on your level, but it's obvious that being that rich and having so much responsibility and liability is insanely stressful. Employee troubles, dealing with corporations, company performance, the stress is insane.
That didn’t take long
The story of TV industry
Did he dropped it again?
Yup…
That's what all the girls say to me.
Never does 😂
Me: still watching Netflix in 480p
I'm over here with two 10 year old, 24" monitors at 1080p, 75hz, living the "I truly don't know what I'm missing" lifestyle
I'm still rocking Packard Bell. Lol
75 Hz! You man are living in the future! Mine only has 60 Hz...
At least I hope they're actual 1080p and not the fake 1080p my TV as a monitor has. If it wasn't for some digital trickery and MS ClearType it would be unusable for productivity and web browsing.
I'm on an 18 inch iiyama CRT. :P
i went from basically your setup to a qd oled and i thing the jump is so significant that it doesn’t even feel like an upgrade, they just feel like different products entirely lol
Dennis is the only reason I don't skip sponsor plugs.
Same - actually viewed the sponsor ad because of how silly dennis makes them, love it!
I LooOove ReFriGeraTors
Huh. I never knew Dennis did sponsor spots. Is there one on this video? Has he been in others?
I like how no one in that venue is even slightly phased by Linus ranting to a camera right there on the floor.
there is the guy just recording Linus with his phone at 5:46
Fazed
"phased" is what happens to Geordi and Ensign Ro in S05E24 of TNG
I think it's expected at this point.
This is a hardware event. It is filled with tech reviewers. Of course no one is going crazy over this.
If Linus buys the latest and greatest tv five minutes after his old one just became obsolete, we’ll have the perfect TV in 2-3 weeks!
give him another week of doing it so we more normal folk also get to reap the benefits at a more reasonable cost
@@samtherat6 his new tv sucks now
"This is what buyer's remorse feels like." Lol, it's like watching Linus being back in the 90s when you'd spend $2999 on a pc that would be eclipsed 2 months later.
3k 90s dollars is kinda on par with what these tv's cost too
You say you've had your desktop for over a week? Throw that junk away, man, it's an antique!
When I bought a new car, I purposely will not take a look at new car launches for the next 6 months. Ignorance is a bliss.
dont forget that pc couldnt even run crysis
The rule of thumb back in the 90's was you got about 1 year for every $1000 you spent. In 1995 I dropped $3000 on a Pentium 90Mhz which was the fastest cpu you could get. 3 years later I had to get a Pentium 2 at 233Mhz to run Ultima online. Today the system I built a system in 2016 was still perfectly fine for my needs that I only just replaced back in March because the motherboard was beginning to die.
I did the math on Linus' 8k TV. The 20 whatever it was thousand dimming zones were 10 by 10 pixels each.
If that new TV has the same resolution and twice the zones, then the zones are 7 by 7 pixels.
You have no idea how hard it was to convince the wife to move up to 65". 110" is crazy!
I have a 65" TV, honestly, it looks small to me now
I originally had a 32" TV that I thought was giant
you get used to it for sure
well a 110 inch isnt for all day use, tho in my house we use a living room projector 130 inch and bascically screen tv and news daily.
best option tho is to get a tv rolling stand and put on it a 55-65 inch and use that for daily news with the 100 inch and above screens for the movie experiences.
huh
Tell her that everyone enjoys another 15"
@lilyeet1980 you be a man and respect the opinions of the people you live with. Life will be a whole lot easier
why people is so concerned with peak brightness? if i set the brigthness of my tv at 50% my eyes automatically burn, and this in a bright room! impossible to watch tv with more than 15% brightness in a dim enviromnet. if you want to see something in hdr you have to be in a very bright room, because your eyes will burn with the maximum brightness of the tv if watching in a low ligtht room! so no HDR in a "cinema-like" environment. i really don't see any sense in this brightness war!
you can adjust the room settings. Its actually true, more brightness = better. It's not just brightness, there's contrast and many other things as well. OLED stands out even in a dark room.
the problem is a dark room is much more immersive than a bright room, like in a cinema. how can i watch tv in HDR in a dark room if the brightness needs to be so high for hdr to work? my eyes will melt.@@DungxxHen
Linus: “Gimme something bright”
TV: pure white right in Linus’s eyes
Be careful what you wish for.
Dennis keeps making the best sponsor spots on LMG. Damn near spit out my tea when I saw the fake ear😂
The first thing in my life that means anything
Can't wait to get a MicroLED monitor when it'll be the cheapest option on Amazon in 20 years. LOL
you are poor 😂
Except it may be a lesser quality MicroLED tv...
Even today, LCD tvs are't all good quality.
@@Poodleinacan Its ok. Poor people deserve tech too.
Sounds like rich people are going to have a great year! So psyched about this, hope they won't be dissapointed.
This is the funniest thing to happen to Linus this year
So far
And it's only week 2
@@kjcorderYes, that's the joke.
10.000 bucks funny...
in a month, no one reading this comment will get the joke.
Linus on the TCL tv: "This TV has no competition... except for my protector."
The competitors: And I took that personally.
As a home theater guy I'm still waiting for a 150" 2.35:1 TV to come out. Its really hard to buy a new projector when TVs are soo much better
Bring on the large format cinema widescreen TVs!
wait 5 minutes?
Sounds like you could buy the 110 inch and just sit closer lol.
Don't hold you breath for that aspect ratio. Possibly when micro LED modular panels become mainstream, so you can "build it" yourself.
@@budala1969 I know. I'll probably just wait and get the next gen Epson or JVC projectors
Imagine walking around an event, turning a corner and seeing Linus standing .2cm from a TV screen blasting his eyes with its peak brightness. 🤣
You know what should you guys do when labs gets things going? For each category find a point at which technical difference is near imperceptible to human. I.e. response time or how deep black colour is for displays. Because at some point, technical difference might not even mean much if lesser option is cheaper AND that difference is imperceptible to humans.
they really needed to do this for phones. I'll take a 10 gram heavier phone thats .25mm thicker for better battery life
Exactly. Linus has spoken about how he feels conflicted about supporting mindless consumerism as part of his job when his heart lies with practicality and good value
Focussing on what is actually subjectively valuable to human perception would be a great way to honour those values.
. 25mm thicker won't give you much but 10gms more heavier might. Best combo is no glass back but a plastic one and aluminum or a plastic side rail to reduce weight while still having great battery. @@zyeborm
It may be quite difficult to test that, but they kinda did that with FPS, when they tested with an e-sports professional whether more FPS improves your accuracy. That was prime LTT content.
LTT is no stranger to double blind tests either, so I could see them do that once they have enough labs data to make sure the differences they are testing for are technically there to begin with.
@@LRM12o8Ehhhh I wouldn't call that empirical data, There wasn't a large enough sample size. You'd need a large enough sample size to scale the % across a wider scope. Argument sake, let's say they Wana use that data for a 1000 people, they'd need at least %10 to say anything with authority on such metrics.
Ge 1 in 10 saw x difference in smoothness when at y frame rate.
"I can imagine a lot of dentists, doctors, or other professionals struggling to load one of these into their Cybertruck in the BestBuy parking lot" 😆 nailed it.
Man I really hope Dennis came up with that ad himself because it's probably the best ad LTT has ever done and It wouldn't be if it weren't him doing the ad
I legit lol'ed when the fake ear dropped in the broccoli 🤣🤣
Dennis is involved with making these ads, I'm pretty sure they talked about this on WAN show once.
Laughed twice. First when he spat out the ear juice, and second time when he was buying "crack" from the guy in the alley.
Legit first time in a while where I didn't immediately skip forward past the sponsor ads
4:38 when it’s kicks the hdr in is crazy
Looks like the LAN center just gained not only a $5K projector but also a 115” TV from China 😮
Sponsor videos being hilarious is always number one priority. 😆 🤣 😂 😹.
Gonna be an excellent Christmas party at LMG this year when the 115" TCL is up for grabs. 😂
That was a very good intro, the energy was top tier, good video team LMG
I wonder how TCL was able to avoid whatever the LG patent is (or if we will see "LG sues TCL for patent infringement" at some point in the near future)
From what I remember in that video, the LG patent was set to expire in the U.S. in 2024. I'm guessing that is why these aren't launching until Q3 or Q4. For sale the day the patent expires.
Which patent?
@@leviathan19 Some kind of a patent that prevented TCL to sell their TVs in the US
@@zdtvcometpatents are renewable. They probably made a deal.
this is a bigger qm8 TV which is a fantastic quality+value line in the states. probably will cost more than $12k if the 98 stays at $6k.
3:32 love the people just walking through your shoot like you're me talking pictures of your kids at harry potter land :D
This is a good time for linus to drop his TV and buy a new one
drop the tv on the pool. XD
LMFAO!! Patience is a Virtue Linus. Hope you learned something. You NEVER jump on the very first model release of ANYTHING! You ALWAYS wait for the next Gen Models like the ones you are seeing here in this video. :)
that hand at 2:10 looked real LMAO
5:23 Samsung-"The Wall?" I thought it was called-"The Frame." The 32 inch model is the only 1080p QLED in existence according to my knowledge.
Well said. Okay this is crazy. ME looking for REAL LIFE Hisense U8N!!!! EF that. I found it. In home turf they release the next year model usually the December of the previous year. I remember seeign that tv n didnt think much when I was looking for u8k , ux review.
DAMNNNNN the U8N look NICE.
N last week as I am looking for 2024 UX again..try to see “real consumer uploaded image”. I SAW that Hisense version the -WALL
200” -DAMN it’s HUGE. Their stuff so premium. Ppl actually treat them like Samsung. The U8N 65” is like $1400 (ON sale price, chinese new year new launch sale) ….ME in Canada, n others in UK,Germany, Aus all pay that price but more around $1500 for 65” . Only USA ppl pay like $999 still mad it’s “not perfect” lol.
Two totally different products. "The Frame" is just a qled tv with a matte finish and some special wall mount options such that it can look more like an art work when it is in in screen saver mode. "The Wall" is a micro-led tv which is probably the best image quality you can get right now, but it is ridiculously expensive (80k to 220k). It is expensive because each sub-pixel is a separate LED; inorganic LED, so no burn in and much brighter than OLED.
I like the TCL reflection at 1:25
As a owner of a 55 inch Hisense U8H I'd say buyers beware. In 5months of ownership it's failed several times where it had to be restarted to avoid flickering and black lines. 1 of the HDMI 4k 120hz ports appears to have failed and despite running same settings today vs 5months ago whites have turned more gray. Red still looks a bit off sometimes
DUDE my friend bought $4000 TV made in Japan, arrive already broken. 2nd panel arrive also broken. Took 3rd panel. This happens to all TVs. My 2 Hisense,,,flagship $2450 USD later running fine. Also my buddy’s 65” U7H fine. Yeah u got bad luck.
@@birdtj82 Yeah maybe bad luck and I did buy extra 3 year warranty through Amazon for cheap since Hisense TV's are known to ship out bad batches. My issue is that the panel is failing way sooner than my old Vizio 4k TV which only showed same symptons as my Hisense after 8 years vs a few months of Hisense. Vizio is a crap brand now but was decent value 9 years ago.
@@AwesomeDers i know i got u. It can be frustrating. I would too. Me on d opposit. My both Hisnse flagship I bought NO waranty. So i feel more like fool that i didnt pay extra service plan. I know for sure i would be in worse shoes than u if my fav tv just broke . Yeah on d country My frigin $330 SONY xm4 ear buds broke. So i am more mad at that they stlll haven’t shipped me replacement n taking 3 months, it’s unreal. Turn out SONY ill sending ppl software update to like fast sending those ear buds to early death. Butched it made them die so fast n obvious. They cover up is “honest mistake, we give u free repair(not even bran new)” its so skechy i am still shocked i dont know how many hundreds of thousands Sony xm4 ppl complaining. Others just turning blind eyes. So yeah i hear ya. Like it only annoying when it happens.
Did u get it replaced tho?? It’s funny lately if u read reviews. It seems Amazon Hisense has high failure rate. Strange. I saw Amazon reviews so many “damaged upon delivery” n on Bestbuy is like not even 1%. Wonder if Amazon cut corners hire 3rd party shipping , n those contractors hire like despite migrants like low pay n just tossing tv around. Just saying tho. So many ppl are putting together the Amazon Tv has high damage rate during shipping.
@@AwesomeDers okay i hope u get yr tv addressed dude. U8H such great tv. I tried to buy the 75” like JUSt SOLD out for 3 months where i was at. So i got no U8H. U got a better panel than mine there.
@@birdtj82 Hisense has notorious quality control, as in they have almost zero QC on their products. Its a complete bet to what you will get. And their customer care and warranty is absolutely the worst.
every ces every year hurts my brain even more
“Each year CES hurts my brain even more.” 😉🤓
AND your wallet?
@@AC3handle yes
@@jerseylife8701this is SO much better to read
I am going to try the sponsors product. I have Somy WH1000-XM5s. The right ear cup collects condensation on the mic diaphragm which leads to all kinds of awful sounds. It can be fixed by removing the ear pad, wringing out the foam inset under that and then carefully mopping up with qtips and them blowdrying on low for about 5 minutes. This is a PITA that no other headphones has made me live with. If Wicked Cushions can fix it so this doesn happen any more, I will post my experience on my redit thread about the problem.
Dude so random this is tv review .
Did u have issue with SONY ear buds too?
Their Xm3 falls out like heavy mushrooms.
Their Xm4 broken by stupid Sony software update, that broke my ear buds permenantly , doing a repair under table for customers…..i still have NOT received it after 2 months. They literally made statement” ooops we sent a software update, some ear buds got destroyed, but we get urs repaired (not even give me new).
How is xm5 . Do they fall out ears n heavy?
I am so used to apple ear bud pros now, lol in my time of waiting. 😂
Ps……u haven’t made comment about HISNESE TV@@@!!!!! 🎉 do it
I used to think 32" TVs were massive growing up. It's crazy how far we've come.
I'm trying to remember the size of the tv my brothers and parents were looking at when Neil walked on the moon. Whatever was 'huge' for the time, I am pretty sure we didn't have it.
Probably 15" 😂
Have you tried moving a 32" CRT TV ?
Because it WAS huge, just not the screen size lol. That’s crt tv’s for you
lol i am still using a 20" crt tv
1:55 Cooling gel headphone cushions? Surely that won't work for more than 10 minutes seeing as the heat has no particularly good way to dissapate?
Linus is just such a good presenter, gotta give it to the man
I hate when his voice gets all high pitched or squeaky and when he tucks his elbows in...
I don't know about the cooling gel part. But I can tell you that I recently bought a set of wicked cushions for my corsair virtuoso headset and they're great. The so-called "premium" pads from corsair are absolute garbage and fell apart way too fast but I can tell these are definitely higher quality. Thank you to corsair for making them replaceable even if their "premium" pads were a huge letdown on a 200+ dollar headset.
Dennis sponsored bits are the first I haven't skipped through in AGES. MOAR DENNIS!!!
Brightness and resolution do matter in colour volume and big highlights which is why I ditch my WOLED and QD-OLED for an 8K Mini LED
It’s so entertaining watching all the people around Linus reacting to him😂
Paused after 27 seconds, epic rant. Genuine, true and to the point. I imagine that was you with the "spy balloons" trying to smuggle the TV out of China. After 4 attempts and 9 months, you finally get it just to see the exact same tv a week later in Vegas.
Linus is about to "test" another tv at his home before accidentally keeping it cause it's "too cumbersome to move" then get his team to move it when he's cool spending the payroll to do it and I love it let's see this tv in his theatre :)
Pretty sure the one he imported from china will be heavier than any NA made one.
I bought the 65 inch Lg Oled B2 for 1600$, then recently seen the B3 For 1200$ . Boy was my heart crushed..
Linus ALWAYS have that great sense of timing 😂
Has*
The thing i like about hisense is that it not that expensive, it doesn't lag and has really good sound without a soundbar.
Yeah I went to buy Sound bar in Besrbuy tested so many . Sonos , BOSE , SONY . I had to get Sonos ARC level to get Slight “better “. Me n my family turned around went home .
That's the joy of buying the latest and greatest tech, Linus. There will always be something that tops it tomorrow!
But seriously though, TV and Monitor tech is insane!
Plus you get to experience ALL of the growing pains of this new technology and sometimes as a bonus: the disappointment of most content not properly supporting it. 😂
But hey, somebody's gotta do it, else we'll never get these cool new technologies! Pour one out for the early adopters, they're really taking one (or many) for the team! O7
i opened my backdoor to see who was playing loud music but it turns out it's the very low level bass sound from the showfloor. Sounded like loud music from a far distance through a house. Lol
I'm glad to see actual CES coverage
Oh hey Wicked Cushions! A sponsorship for something I've actually used is in a RUclips video lmao! They were actually nice lol
I love this, I figured there would be something bigger coming out at CES but slightly bigger than the screen for his projector would have been? That's pretty cool
When do we get the de-install of the 115-in TV and the install of this bigger, better one?
Probably in a few months
*smaller, better one. Linus' TV is 115 inches, this is 110.
I have a hisense flagship from a couple years ago, so far so good. At the time I heard they were working on new display technologies.
High Five. Same here. It took NO convencing. My family walk to Bestbuy looking at SONY , n they got Angry walk out lol. Cuz u go back to store started to see funny pestle colors out of sudden that we did not notice on Sony before.
Their demo is turned up tho. But as soon as as playing somethign like RUclips n etc real stuff. Just doesnt look as vibrant.
Well, that escalated quickly.
1:09 Idk if this was what you were talking about, but you should defo not worry about their competetiveness. I wanted a TV for my room practically just for watching netflix before sleeping, and my budget was pretty low. Ended up with a 4k, 60 hz 55'' TV from Hisense, for 400 dollars, don't know about other places but here in northern Europe where I live that's practically unheard of and undercutting literally the entire market.
kinda random but what song was that at 6:05?
It plays from about 5:45 to 6:15. I am wondering what it is also. It sounds familiar, but I cant tell what it is.
@@jamescox8429I came back to this video to see if anyone ever found the song in the last few months only to find more people asking about it. Darn.
One thing that doesn't get talked about that much is the *reflective surface of TVs?* I personally don't like TVs that reflect the room lighting (or your projections) while turned on tbh.
I’m happy with my 85” TV. Anything more is overkill
I'm still rocking a 65" LG B8 OLED I picked up years ago, I just really can't see me needing to change it for years yet (assuming it doesn't fail).
so did people with 50" tvs 10 years ago
@@SilverRoveri I have a 50'' right now and moving up to 55'' seems excessive even with a 20ft room.
I stopped buying cameras when they stopped making the DSLR mirrored type. I can’t imagine the remorse I’d have if I went down the mirrorless road. I’m glad I can’t feel your pain!!!!😅😅😅😅😊
transparent test, you could test the brightness of an object with nothing between the sensor, and then see how much of that brightness you lose when you put the transparent display in between the light source/sensor. so if you calibrate your lightsourse to about 1000 nits, and you get a reading of 890 nits with the display in between, your display has 89% transparency (or 11% translucency).
Who cares? Who needs a transparent screen?
@@penfold-55 They're really dumb for TVs, but I think they serve as a stepping point for other more logical applications like AR (or in all likelyhood, digital signage)
The only thing is CES & new TV announcement has happened in every January for decades, then you have to wait till at least April for them to be released, so if you want the newest TV never buy after November.
4:09 69% of the range of human vision is indeed pretty nice. 😏
Bro the asian guy advertisements might just be the best thing ever.
Linus roasted Ploufe for so long, but now the tables have turned 😂
Do you take apprentices? You've inspired me for years to get into PCs and the ever evolving world of tech and im always looking for new opportunities to learn. Honestly any computer company that anyone could recommend that has good apprenticeships or entry level positions that would be so sick
When did Linus start smoking 4 packs a day?
❤❤❤ love the video. So many ppl have NOT own Hisense Flagship just mocking it. ME coming from $2500 n $4000 Japanese TVS…..d ONLY tv measured up were Hisense n Samsung flagship both. But HIsense was google tv n has dobey vision Atmos, BEST speakers , and amazing price. It was NO brainer. Never looking back. 🎉
Linus is the best at what he does. The energy, the density of information while being objective. And I don't think it was scripted. On the floor, on demand.
I think the best pitch for this TV is just the moment where that old guy was so blown away and blinded he damn near walked into Linus. 🤣🤣
Financial decisions Linus, financial decisions.
I'm sure the content he made about that huge TV already paid the TV.
its all buissness expense that gets reducted from his taxes, basically free. he just makes a video on it and justify for the IRS. ahahahah perfect scheme it seems. if multi milioneres do it with private jets why cant linus
@@MrDragonorp I somehow have doubts the IRS is keen on approving his expenses on a borderline smuggled chinese TV.
He needs to make a water decision.
@@MrDragonorp He explicitely said that now the tv is officially in his basement or wherever, he cannot make a tax deduction anymore because it is a private expense!
Hisense really has made some leaps in their TV's. I recently bought a new U8K 65in and the thing is gorgeous.
The 140" eclipses the 116 or whatever it is lol
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and cost 250k$
I am even more happy with my decision to go home theater projector. TVs may be a lot brighter, but they cost 10 times as much and you have to pay to have anything over a 75" set up in your house because you can't do it by yourself. I have a 150 inch screen and it is amazing. My Optoma HD142X home theater projector from 2016 is still amazing and the bulbs are now only $70 to replace every 3 years approximately. I got 5000 hours out of the last 2 bulbs I got from Amazon. If it ever breaks I will get a 4K Optoma projector but the 1080P looks great to me.
Or have a smaller screen with much better picture quality?
I can never be okay with the picture quality of projectors, even if "they're so much larger"
So basically what I'm getting from this, is that Linus bought a Chinese giga-TV and was blown away by it, and then all the other manufacturers went "Oh people want giant fancy TVs? Ok" and whipped up a product to beat the Chinese model xD
Most of these are Chinese. All the manufacturers were waiting to launch their new US ranges at CES but Linus couldn't wait and imported one (complete with Chinese menus).
Linus bought a Chinese TCL giga TV. He had to buy the Chinese version because it wasn't available globally. Then shortly after, TCL announces a global version and Hicense, another Chinese company, announces an even better version
@@davidk.d.7591 I mean he's gonna have a 115" half a year before any normal consumers can. Unless the new ones cost like half and twice better it isn't a bad thing after all.
I won't skip sponsors if they're all like that. Headphone sweat. I'm dead. 💀
0:59 Geez
I wish i had your problems.. we have a hisense tv too, but its 50 inch, and 1080p resolution, no hdr, no dimming zones.. 😄 thats what working people have 😜
I'm sure if you REALLY wanted that HiSense tv you'd figure out a way to make it fit in your budget provided the wife approves of course lol
LG should be ashamed of themselves for dropping the ATSC 3.0 tuner. I’m more likely to look into TVs that still include one
The race for brightness is really odd to me. I watch in my living room and from my bed. I have both 65" 4k TV's (from like 5 years ago) set to lowest brightness because it hurts my fricking eyes when there is something bright on the screen. Am I the only one that prefers to not get physicaly hurt, even though image quality might not be the best of the best? :O
Same with PC monitors for me, when I'm using mine at night in my room with just a lamp on I have to have the screen brightness at almost the lowest possible setting or else it feels like the thing is burning my retinas out.
@@rtmclean484 Yeah, i do the same. But on PC i use a handy little software called "Monitorian". It adjustes screenbrightness for all my 4 PC monitors with just one software slider for all of them. It's a very neat little program and i hated having to go to monitor settings to do that.
At daytime i use them pretty bright.
my LG C9 OLED can have a peak of 700nits and this is already blinding in some situations in a dark room I cant imagine what 10.000nits will look like.
Now if there was only something worth watching on TV…
I watched this on my tv?
Exactly 😂
That was propably the best sponsor spot I've ever seen on this channel.
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1:29 I'm sorry but you can literally see the light bleed from the hisense logo. I get it, it's competitive with an oled because of price and size, but the contrast sounds pretty talked up just from what we can see in the video.
I had a 55. Got a 65 a few months back when it got glitchy. Want my 55 back. Its the same brand and price point, but I have never had such exhaustion in my eyes than I do now. I don't sit right in front of this thing by any means, but overall, I don't need a theater experience for YT, which is the majority of content I watch these days. Ive learned size isn't everything.
They better get the heat under control, i just bought the 100u8k and even on smaller sets the heat is fr lol, 40k mini leds in a tight chamber will definitely cause some heat
Just send your new TV back and get the HiSense one instead! lol
My 85" HISense at only $849 felt like a bargain at the time! I suspect I will never upgrade it....
1:39 It's true. My eyes produce enough blooming on my OLED phone at night that those 40,000 dimming zones will be enough.
1:47 You should have waited for the Black Hole to "consume" the whole screen.
That would have been a PERFECT TRANSITION!
Only time I get buyers remorse is when a short time later something better for the same price is available. I'm talking within the month.
An exception is, you needed it right then. In that case it doesn't matter what comes out later, you didn't have access to it when you needed it.
The other exception is, is the better product really better enough to matter in the first place.
I'll give an example of both. I bought my steam deck 64GB 1 month prior to the oled being announced. I was a bit miffed but, the model I got does the job I paid for and I already replaced the 64GB SSD with a 2TB SSD and bought a D Brand case for it which again, isn't available for the OLED, yet.
Those The Wall things from Samsung look amazing. I love stuff like Samsung's The Frame, which basically a The Wall in a size that fits in my living room. Having an almost completely borderless screen is just aesthetically pleasing to me. Don't go and make my TV pretty (except the screen when it is on), make it so that I don't even notice that it is there when it's switched off (I basically never use the picture gallery stuff anyway). They also calibrate nicely and easily, which is something I haven't seen HiSense panels do. Those things are a battle to get set up with some colour accuracy.
Also, those Frames and Walls have wonderful cable management. Not having to plug everything into the back of the TV, but into a little box that I can stash into the cabinet is just nice. Why don't all TVs do that?
What are some valid use cases for transparent screens, other than AR in a mobile device? The only thing I can think of is literal high tech house window replacement that can visually transport you to exotic locations. But I imagine direct sunlight might either damage it or prevent it from displaying a useful image.
I work at Best Buy and no longer trust hi sense with how much people return those things. Most of the tvs, even the most expensive ones, have the lifespan of a fruit fly with progeria