I’m told, “We decided to move on with other candidates. We will consider you for future positions.” Then when I try to figure out why they won’t hire me. It’s because lack of experience that THEY WILL NOT GIVE ME. Nobody will TRAIN me neither. They want me already educated on the trade, yet I have to pay for that education. How can I do that without the job I’m trying to get hired by so I can get paid by that job to pay for the education and experience they’re requiring me to have? I wish I could get told “Learn on the go” and “Figure it out.” Because that would imply that I actually have the job I want.
Its nice to see the kids get skilling. Nothing is more nicer than to see them become confident and have the skills to manage on the job site. Hopefully they see a know also good work safe practices including protection of their joints and hearing.
Our main apprenticeship school is located in Kansas City, Missouri, but we also have programs in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, and Bentonville, Arkansas.
LoL. I have 35 plus years in the electrical trade. This conversation comes up a lot !!! It would seem that every state has a different name for one piece of equipment or another that an electrician would use every day. We call it a four square, they call it a 1900 box... The funny part is... That's just one example, and there are millions of parts available to do the job. It would also appear that the name of the equipment tends to change or alter depending on the field... Meaning... residential, commercial, and industrial. Just food for thought.
Reality is, 99% of electrical companies out there today will hire you as an apprentice and pay you to learn on the job. Imagine making money instead of paying another to do the same work. Electrical school is a waste of time and money because you pay for it, and it takes 1-2 years to complete. This could be 2 years invested into a journeyman license, but it's essentially thrown away. Just a waste on so many levels. Learn how to bend pipe (and everything else) on the job.
First and foremost, and Barts Electric, there is no cost. You "earn to learn" and we are paying the new folks from day one. Secondly, being "thrown into the fire" on a jobsite is not everyone's cup of tea when it comes to learning. In addition, a lot of the experienced journeyman aren't super thrilled with having to train someone who knows absolutely nothing about the trade. It slows them down and the training tends to be rushed and incomplete. In the program at Barts Electric, our students spend 4-5 weeks in our in-house training center getting paid to learn all of the basics with patient instructors before they ever get to a jobsite, so they can be a lot more productive when they show up. It's a win-win for both the new apprentice and the crew they join at the project.
On the job "learning" is entirely reliant on who you're learning from. The journeyman you end up with might be a knowledgeable person who is eager to teach, or he might be an overworked jerk that'll have you cleaning and carrying things all day. School will guarantee hands on time with the things you'll need to know for the job.
@@Philitron128 100% correct. The instructors at our in-house school are knowledgeable, patient, and caring, which we believe is a much better environment for young apprentices to learn in. After completing this initial training, which takes anywhere from 4-6 weeks, the Red Hats are assigned an experienced mentor at a real world job site where they will continue learning. The best part is, the apprentices are getting paid from day one.
wish i had training like this i get told "learn on the go" and "figure it out"
Maybe you need to change your employer. Find a bigger union shop.
I’m told,
“We decided to move on with other candidates. We will consider you for future positions.”
Then when I try to figure out why they won’t hire me. It’s because lack of experience that THEY WILL NOT GIVE ME. Nobody will TRAIN me neither. They want me already educated on the trade, yet I have to pay for that education. How can I do that without the job I’m trying to get hired by so I can get paid by that job to pay for the education and experience they’re requiring me to have?
I wish I could get told “Learn on the go” and “Figure it out.” Because that would imply that I actually have the job I want.
Its nice to see the kids get skilling. Nothing is more nicer than to see them become confident and have the skills to manage on the job site. Hopefully they see a know also good work safe practices including protection of their joints and hearing.
I have a question were are these classes at?
Our main apprenticeship school is located in Kansas City, Missouri, but we also have programs in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, and Bentonville, Arkansas.
My best freind works for this company
You mean a 4s box? I’ve never heard it called a 1900 box before. I wouldn’t have known what the foreman was talking about either lol.
Never heard of 4s. Always called it a 1900. Shallow, deep, bracket. Maybe it's a location thing?
@@beeps7from Cali
LoL. I have 35 plus years in the electrical trade. This conversation comes up a lot !!! It would seem that every state has a different name for one piece of equipment or another that an electrician would use every day.
We call it a four square, they call it a 1900 box... The funny part is... That's just one example, and there are millions of parts available to do the job.
It would also appear that the name of the equipment tends to change or alter depending on the field... Meaning... residential, commercial, and industrial.
Just food for thought.
Why didn’t he tell that young guy to turn that bender around?
the trade is awful. This isnt the 1980's anymore. No money in it. If you consider it money then your standards are low
Reality is, 99% of electrical companies out there today will hire you as an apprentice and pay you to learn on the job. Imagine making money instead of paying another to do the same work.
Electrical school is a waste of time and money because you pay for it, and it takes 1-2 years to complete. This could be 2 years invested into a journeyman license, but it's essentially thrown away.
Just a waste on so many levels. Learn how to bend pipe (and everything else) on the job.
First and foremost, and Barts Electric, there is no cost. You "earn to learn" and we are paying the new folks from day one. Secondly, being "thrown into the fire" on a jobsite is not everyone's cup of tea when it comes to learning. In addition, a lot of the experienced journeyman aren't super thrilled with having to train someone who knows absolutely nothing about the trade. It slows them down and the training tends to be rushed and incomplete. In the program at Barts Electric, our students spend 4-5 weeks in our in-house training center getting paid to learn all of the basics with patient instructors before they ever get to a jobsite, so they can be a lot more productive when they show up. It's a win-win for both the new apprentice and the crew they join at the project.
@@bartselectricsounds like a good deal
On the job "learning" is entirely reliant on who you're learning from. The journeyman you end up with might be a knowledgeable person who is eager to teach, or he might be an overworked jerk that'll have you cleaning and carrying things all day. School will guarantee hands on time with the things you'll need to know for the job.
@@Philitron128 100% correct. The instructors at our in-house school are knowledgeable, patient, and caring, which we believe is a much better environment for young apprentices to learn in. After completing this initial training, which takes anywhere from 4-6 weeks, the Red Hats are assigned an experienced mentor at a real world job site where they will continue learning. The best part is, the apprentices are getting paid from day one.
I am not familiar with Barts Electric, but I 100% believe in training and this would appear to be training the RIGHT way.