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On his return home, one German soldier noted that "we were spat at by whores and deserters and had our shoulder boards torn off, by those who had never even seen a battle".
@@grontelp77 If you wanna do politics, do something more than attack someone's intellect. Otherwise be quite, adults are talking. I think liberals seek imperialism more than conservatives. The democrats here in the US want to bring America into all these global things where as the conservatives want to keep American interests in America. The old imperialist ways of conquest don't work in the nuclear age, This is modern imperialism.
My Great Grandfather signed up and was sent to the front in 1916. He and all the lads on his street signed up together. He became a grenadier guard and fought at the Somme and I am not sure where else until 1917 where he inhaled gas before his sergeant managed to pull a gas mask over his face. He was given 6 months to live but lived to a grand age of 95. He was a machine gunner so avoided the risk of having to go 'over the top' but I know he suffered too. His gun was hit twice on the opening day of the Somme offensive and the story goes that at the end of the day, he was joking around his mate and an officer walking past remarked that he must be the only man in the British Army laughing , I guess word hadn't come down of the absolute catastrophe that that day had been. I know that had also been a part of a group of men that snuck out into no mans land to retrieve a wounded soldier, for which his NCO was awarded a medal. He experienced joblessness after the war and the indignity of being made to queue outside the labour exchange in all weathers, he caused such a ruckus there that the veterans were allowed to wait inside the building and were referred to as Mr. A small victory. He was so disgusted with the treatment that they received that he emigrated to Canada where he made a decent income in construction and returned to England a decade later, married and with a son. Henry James Betts - Grenadier Guard. My hero. Thanks for reading.
Yeah my grandfather fought in ww1 (he was 50 when my dad was born and my dad was 40 when I was born) and had to work into his mid 70s before he could get any kind of pension because they messed up his records, never got a chance to meet him.
My great grandfather lied about his age to join the British Army to fight in WWI. He was sent to the battlefields of Europe, where, during a gas attack, he was unfortunate enough to inhale some of the gas. He returned home after the war and grew his family. He died in 1949 due to lung disease. We never knew whether the gas he inhaled had to do with it or not. Thank you for making this video, and shedding light on these brave and under appreciated men.
My greatgrandfather served in the german army in ww1 as he came home he had a Bullet in his lung that couldnt be removed. He had difficulties with breathing for the rest of bis live. God bless the Veterans all over the World!
Hey now, at least we get a free meal on Veteran's Day in the US! (Sarcasm) Many people in the US think that our Veterans Administration takes care of everything for us, that couldn't be farther from the truth. The VA can be a nightmare worse than combat.
It seems to go in highs and lows with the conflict level around the world... when I was in around 9/11 I felt like a rockstar all the way till I finished my tour... nowadays there’s almost an active disdain for us (almost like what the video is portraying with WWI vets) honestly think the only reason companies hire vets is because the tax credit (and not because they’re “being here for the heroes”)
@@Uhaneole In all honesty, Britain during the mid 19th century had the same problem were soldiers were shat on by the population...until the Crimean war. That's were people first heard stories of what soldiers and sailors endured(the charge of the light brigade) and the introduction of Victoria cross for valour in the face of the enemy.
That’s the problem in today’s society, men are seen as tough and fearless people but men can have mental Illness such as PTSD and Depression. Society cares more about Women’s mental health than Men.
One of the last surviving veterans of WWI came to my secondary school in 2008 to answer questions for my classmates, who were doing their GCSEs in history. He told my headteacher something I will never forget: "I am so grateful to have fought for a generation that is so confident and inspiring today." Bless you and RIP Henry Allingham (6 June 1896 - 18 July 2009) 😢
Huh.. Look at his birthday. I wonder how he feel at his birthday in 1944 when the Allied start to liberate France from Germany. Seeing his son's generation take a fight to the enemy he fought decades ago. RIP.
@@johncarter4956 Germans in WW2 were different. In WW1, some, if not most, British soldiers would have rathered to fight the French with the Germans than the Germans with the French.
The christmas truce of 1914 is proof of this quote. It really warms my heart to read about enemies having fun and sharing gifts among each other. If it weren't for the war, all of those men would most likely have been friends
@@alexthibodeau979 when they knew that they were all just people and didnt have much differences. Sadly the higher ups made sure they started killing each other again and because of all the stupid people who were the leaders at the time their kids could do it all again about 20 years later
@@KandiKlover Yeah man. Exactly. Like we usually get so appealed with video games having a war themed background, all because of the intense excitement due to the sounds and being able to use a diverse array of weapons and vehicles which will not usually occur for ordinary people. But in reality though, if you ever encounter a bloody conflict just beside your house, you'll regret such experience. It's a visual nightmare. It takes balls of steel to witness and even face your enemy who, just like your side, has so many things which are deadly enough to decimate a large amount of people. As a result, for example I'm telling, we shouldn't judge our soldiers immediately for their failings in defending our country. We shouldn't be such people who don't even had a glimpse about the brutal reality of a war.
Feminists fought only for themselves, leaving men to and preventing men from fighting for their own rights, while calling that ‘their version of’ "equality”. Feminists also are the ones benefiting from the safety of not getting conscripted while blaming men for all the destruction of war. All the same time, because men fought not for themselves when they had the weapons, they continued to be seen as dispensables. Those thinking for themselves are labeled as diserters and were shot. This massive inbalance of rights need to be addressed. Men should not have to live in fear of conscription, and should not have to live in a lower caste system becoming a dispensable in a nation they spend blood building.
I know a person who was hit by an IED in Afghanistan, though he did get a pension nobody bothered to give him support which ended up in him owing about over 15k in taxes. The government collector, said to him “you owe it to your country to pay taxes” (the issue he had was with short term memory so he wouldn’t know what was needed to do. That was the moment my last piece of respect for my government was lost.
@@morrisl7 it’s ppl like you, that is the reason for both Canada and America there’s so many homeless veterans, jobless and all, u have 0 respect or acknowledgement in the fact he had no choice he fought for his country and had 0 choice i in where he went, was subsequently injured and when the time came for even ppl to support him ppl like u said well it’s not my problem, that is greed leaving it for someone else, if it was your family member you’d beg but won’t give help that is the way of the universe what goes around comes around and for poor ppl that deserve the best u need at the very least to respect them.... because it’s you at the end of the day that’ll wind up begging for those ppl
@@clorygaming something is I've never been Frontline combat most because I've only been on this earth for 9 years but through video games have kind of gutters and blues of what it was like when I play Battlefield 1 my expectations when I first played to survive and push through and Capture the Flag with my team is but what I got was completely and rated artillery from enemy was firing a test thanks for there bullet raining everywhere debris was falling down and then things got intent so the I could hear the soldiers screaming I could hear the squad Lita blowing his whistle to get us to the sector it was Madness and the apocalypse DLC was even worse I was playing or with no had and and and no brightness so it was terrifying synfire round gas being thrown artillery mortars everywhere no thank support no plain support nothing just bear with a bolt action rifles or SMG light machine guns just pushing through dysentery scared with the most because it seems overpowered morning as down and we're trying to take the objective I know it sounds over exaggerating but that's what I felt like I expected something else just us pushing to the sector like Call of Duty holding it but no I got something totally different
"I'm cast aside now that I've played my part I lie in the street, I beg not to starve I'm crippled, disfigured, you just look away The war you forgot, the price I have paid"
And the band plays Waltzing Matilda And the old men still answer the call But year after year Their numbers get fewer Someday no one will march there at all
Whenever you join a military, you need to always understand what you’re fighting for. In the end, it’s always for the politicians and rich people anyways.
Could you imagine the absolute brass pair this government would have to have when WW2 comes around and they tell their countrymen "Could you do it again?"
First of all the problem is you phrased that question as if asking for a request, it wasn't a request nor did they asked. Second of all war is for the youth, not the old. 20 years is enough time to get a new generation thrown in. In the military 30 is old and 40 is elderly, anything after that is a jerryatric.
@@Marinealver Regardless, the British had shown that they care little for the survivors of the wars that the Government started. Why would you willingly sign up to fight the second World War when you've grown up seeing how veterans of the first were treated upon their return from the trenches?
Same thing in Germany, with the Freikorps and all. People gave up four years of their lives and even parts of their body and minds, and got nothing in return. But the Freikorps took it into a whole new level.
@@_____Z_____ Biden proudly put in a law which gave the police the power they have today, and hes a a pretty strong advocate for continuing foreign US intervention. Hes just trump but less isolationist.
Any British civilians who were blind to their servicemen’s pleas for help got a rude awakening 20 years later. They had little to no clue of a fraction of what horrors they truly faced, but that all changed when the Nazis began bombing their cities. The treatment of soldiers here reminds me a lot of how American veterans were treated after Vietnam
Growing up in the 1970's, I often overheard Vietnam veterans say they identified (and felt like they had more in common) with their grandfathers who had fought in WWI as opposed to their fathers who had fought in WWII.
One of the most overly propagandized wars in history, all fought on false pretenses and glory, truly one of the most bittersweet ironies recorded in history.
@Maintenance Renegade We've been fighting wars in the mid-East because of some abomination of a treaty over a 100yrs ago!!!! This is why the U.S joining The Great War was a mistake.
@Maintenance Renegade Well, the sinking of the British passenger ship the Lusitania (1915) and the deaths of 189 Americans on the ship, is what drove the American people to favor the allies. However, the final tipping point was the Zimmerman note sent to Mexico from Germany (1917) asking if Mexico would join the Central Powers and invade the U.S, in of which Mexico declined. But yeah the Lusitania was technically a justified military target. Even with all this, the U.S shouldn't have joined the War because their wasn't anything to gain, and all we got was a Great Depression because France and Great Britain couldn't pay their debts in the late 1920's; to the U.S, which they were getting their debt payments from Germany, also contributing to the crash of the U.S stock market and the banks going into debt because of their heavy investments and heavy reliance on the stock market.
Well a country which we gave a garantee too was being tresspassed by germany and civilians were being killed i would say that was a good reason/ another letting germany and austria become the largest powers would of also been terrible
@@afriendlycadian9857 Not really, I don't hear you or anyone accusing the British Empire and the French Empire for killing civilians when when they were busy colonizing other parts of the world. Tbh France, Great Britain, and Russia were much more of a threat to world domination than the German and Austria-Hungarian Empires which didn't have any colonies and didn't have any plans for world domination, only domination in Europe, unlike the French and the British Empires which were still actively trying to control as much of the world as possible.
"Death is light as a feather, duty as heavy as a mountain." That one? It's what Japanese soldiers in the 19th and 20th century were told to boost morale.
My grandfather used to live in a village in the mountain when he was a child. It was common to see beggars, passing through their village, such as wounded veterans. It was shortly after WW2. He remembers one man with both missing legs riding a donkey.
My dad was a spetsnaz sniper during the Afghan war, after he came back he was stunned at how nobody cared about how much he did, it effected him so much he immigrated to America and had me and my brother, my brother wanted to join the army a few years ago but my dad begged him and broke down about how the governments treat their soldiers, it was the first time we ever saw our dad cry
@tiernanwearen6624 rarely and only when drunk, he has funny stories of course since my uncle served with him and my uncle is hilarious, but the stories your probably looking for I've only heard a handful. He regrets not killing his own officers more than anything from what he's said, lots of corruption and no punishment for ranking men. My uncle has a lot more stories but he saw less action than my dad did
@crispycrimson6448 can you please explain how your dad an ex spetsnaz Soviet sniper Managed to immigrate to the United States ??My Dream is to Immigrate to the US and live and work there I'm tired of living in Algeria, I tried the Green Card lottery twice but haven't got lucky still I wish you a good night/Day it depends on when you read this
@cheriefsadeksadek2108 immigranted to Canada, snuck into the US and then broke about a dozen laws to fake an identity until he was able to study up and take the test to get a green card. My mom went back home to Ireland and easily immigrated using a work visa then got her card by marrying my dad.
It did happen in Indonesia aswell. My grandpa who is a marine soldier, had better life than most of ww2 soldier veterans. He served during Timor Insurgencies and Papua. I don't know if the government gave them veterans some money, but I hope they care too to the WWII veterans and not just post-WWII veteran soldiers. Also, 10 November is the Day of The Heroes in my country, as that day is to remember all soldiers that fought and died during the war. During school, it is something that made me cry, deep down in my heart, cause during WWII, they fought with only sharped bamboo and stolen weapons from enemy soldiers Edit: some WWII veterans are supported by their children/grandchildren/great grandchildren, but I don't know much about the others
@Felix Stottsumm... Americans didn't even close to reach 1 million casualties during the first war, but the part about you saying how the first world War was just pointless and meaningless to the American people unlike the second war is true
Imagine serving in one of the most brutal wars in human history at 18 years, losing lims and be scarred for life then going back home just to be treated like this
Well after ww1 the economy of the uk etc easnt doing well having had to buy lota of sruff from the us who acrually increased their prices for all countries
@@raypod5964 its literally an excuse just because you dont like it doesnt mean its not an excuse i agree its a terrible excuse but the government will use any excuse to save money sadly
As a Royal naval serviceman, it’s horrifying to know that at such a time vulnerable veterans were essentially left to fend for themselves after the Great War
The way sailors of the Royal Navy were treated after fending off the Spanish Armada was even worse. Deliberately left out at sea with no rations, so the government wouldn't have to pay them once they came ashore.
They couldn't handle it, and they would scoff at the very idea. Same goes for our politicians in America, if you forced them and their families to get medical care at the VA, the VA would have a chance at getting fixed, along with the rest of the health care industry here.
@@kennypowers2341, hopefully that will change some things, but I won't hold my breath. Sadly, there are plenty of solutions for the problems veteran's face, but the political will isn't there to do any of them. Probably because it gives politicians something to campaign on promising to fix, and they'll blame the other side as to why they get nothing done.
Old man: "Fight for your country coward!" Soldier: "Yes sir!" *After War* Soldier: "Please help. I sacrificed everything for our country." Old man: "You're pathetic! Man up!"
Depends on the person. Some veterans really need help. And some of them are just self pitying. So if the old men are really wise and knowledgeable, they are right. Otherwise they are stupid. But its quite sad this happens...
@@TheIndogamer and he knows a little more about war than you do pal because he invented it. And he perfected till no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
@@Joshua_N-A I can only speek about the German side. But a lot of German aristocrats died in ww1, because many of them were officers in the army. Not only the generals but also Lieutenants who lead the charges to inspire the troops. Many German aristrocratic ww2 generals fought at the front in ww1 when they did not have such a high rank. Well known examples are Erich von Manstein and Günther von Kluge, who both got seriously injured in combat action. I think that aristrocrats had a lot of pressure to participate in the war and earn medals, because they were expected to do so by their families.
He covers that at the end a bit. German veterans tended to be quite a bit angrier than the British and Frenchmen though. American veterans damn near coup'd the government when it refused to help initially.
@@fabovondestory Oh I don't know, maybe they were so angry, a certain angry mustached man by the name of "Adolf Hitler" overthrew the government and started another world war. Crazy right?
My grandfather fought in WW2 in the romanian army,he survived and the communists took his land and his agricultural machines,after that he was commited in a mental hospital
La mine străbunicii au luptat in Al Doilea Război Mondial și au supraviețuit comunismul dar și dictatura lui Zelea-Codreanu de dinaintea razboiului. Au murit cand aveam eu 2 ani.
I know the feeling neighbor. Im from Bulgaria.. My great great grandfather served in WW1 with the cavalry. He came home different according to great grandmother. He finally left for the United States to work for railroad company in midwest. He came with a lot of money and build a factory. It was his until January 1945. Soviets took everything from him. He resisted and was threatened that his whole family will be sent in Siberia if he continues.
I'm sorry for your grandfather. Aside from the mental hospital that was quite common occurence in the eastern block Europe. I really can't comprehend how can someone glorify these communist bastards.
My dad fought in Iraq in the Persian Gulf War and every year we visit the memorials in Washington DC. He frequently donates to veterans organizations and he always encourages the rest of our family to do the same
“Thinking about Vietnam once in a while, in a crazy kind of way, I wish that just for a while, I could be there. And then be transported back. Maybe just to be there so I’d wish I was back here again.” Anonymous U.S. Serviceman
This only shows how cruel our society and state of mind is. We cannot appreciate what these men have been trough, what sacrifices they made and how they were treated. At the end, as John Bairon wrote in his "Don Juan" the generals and commanders are the great victors with big pensions and praises but at the same time nobody even thinks of who are the actual heroes of this conflict. Every war leads only to death and destruction. It is a terrible thing no matter what anyone says. There aren't any winners nor heroes in destroying families and homes. May the brave men who gave/risked their lives for the fatherland rest in peace... They were just a tool for achieving somebody else's ideals and interests.
I'm an old British army veteran . I just got through life the best I could. Living alone and on borrowed time now. But, I have no regrets. It was my choice to serve. I don't think of myself as a hero or even brave. Just did what I thought was right. I hope my service helped to keep peace and protect the innocent. Bye Live in peace with each other.
"Young men don't die for their country, they die for the whims of the old men" My disillusioned great grandfather believed that when he was in service back in ww2 and in the korean war.
Nah. The civil war, the second world war and the korean war were different from the wars that followed. We fought those because of principle and to help people who genuinely wanted our help, the vietnam war failed because our motivation there was mostly about the fear of the spread of communism than there being a people who really wanted our help. If youre not convinced then try to look for the thank you commerial south korea aired for veterans a few days ago, its quite a tear jerker.
@@lespectator4962 You do know that the Korean war and the Vietnam war were fought for the exact same reason right, to stop the spread of communism. And the Korean people didn't really care about who won the war. both north and south Korea were incredibly authoritarian both sides committing frequent purges of political opponents and human rights violations. in fact before the collapse of the soviet union, north Korea had a better standard of living than south Korea due to soviet loans. The south only began to grow and democratize during the 80s that's also the start of the south Korean peoples appreciation of the sacrifices of the us and rok army but before the 80s they couldn't care less. And the reason America lost the Vietnam war was that us generals planned combat operations as if if they were conventional wars rather than insurgency's not to mention that every time the Viet Cong were beaten they would just flee to Cambodia or north Vietnam to rebuild.
@@darrelkh8774There was still more will among the korean people to resist communism that there was among the vietnamese. The fact that Seoul fell and they got pushed all the way back to the Pusan perimeter and still bitterly fought on states that, they even went as far as executing sympathizers on their own. When Saigon fell south vietnam just collapsed entirely. The south vietnamese government didnt even take measures to continue the struggle in spite such a forseeable event because they were so dependent on america to do everything that their president was caught in his office like he had no clue by NVA troops like it was just another day at work that he still thought he was still in a position to negotiate by stating that "he was ready to hand over power". He was so oblivious to it all. The main reason the west lost the vietnam war was because they never had any intention of invading the north, they even restricted bombing it for a time. The communists used this as leverage and won through sheer perseverance, not military might. The NVA could never face the US in open battle, but south vietnam simply didnt do much with the breathing room the US gave it. Not in any historical record would you find any effort of south vietnam to claim the whole country when both north and south korea state that intention to this day.
@@lespectator4962 The Pusan perimeter managed to hold due to un reinforcements but holding Pusan didn't drive back the north the Inchon landing's did, and during the battle for the Pusan perimeter the south suffered more than twice the amount of casualties than the un troops. And just like the arvn the rok army was heavily dependent on the us for practically everything and when north Vietnam invaded the south 1975 the arvn put up a better fight than south Korea did in 1950 but unfortunately for the south Vietnamese their was no un to save them and since all of their equipment came from the us and since the new us presidential administration cut of all aid it was only a matter of time before they fell. and if your wondering why the arvn didn't put up a fight in their version of the Pusan perimeter, well they did that was the fall of Saigon and the only un troops in Saigon were ones who were evacuating their respective citizens, They weren't their to save their republic. If you look on a map Saigon is located at the far south of Vietnam. The president of south Vietnam wasn't oblivious to the nva he just knew it was impossible to win if they had no outside help. The only reason south Korea still exists today was un intervention not the peoples "determination against communism." (and btw plz don't accuse me of being a "commie" for I am anything but as i believe in the free market.)
@@darrelkh8774 @Chargingpath387 The simple fact is, south vietnam enjoyed more benefits and longer periods of help than south korea did, but didnt make anything out of it. Stating that the UN helped south korea instead of the US alone isn't very relevant as the US contributed majority if not almost all of the aid they got. The Pusan perimeter held its own and did push back the communists, the landings at Inchon only provided a second front to divert north korean efforts to allow Pusan to break out. The only reinforcements south korea received to hold Pusan initially was task force smith, which wasnt very substantial. They had to hold out and fight bitterly to keep Pusan to buy time for the UN to send the real help. But the fact that the ROK held out long enough to still be able to be reinforced in spite their massive initial losses is a testament to the difference of their resolve compared to south vietnam, which fell apart as soon as they started to lose ground. South vietnam didnt even have to face the direct military intervention from the nations that sponsor north vietnam like the koreans did, just the NVA and communists from their own land. South Korea and the UN had to fight off both North Korea AND China, so what was their excuse? They couldn't beat north vietnam even with the help of the strongest super power in the world and the full commitment of its military, even though the only help other communists gave north vietnam were just in the form equipment, and never direct military intervention? Its doubtful south vietnam lost because of mere guerilla tactics.
"I want what they want. And every other guy who came over here and spilled his guts and gave everything he had wants. For our country to love us as much as we love it. That's what I want." -- Rambo.
The returning veteran always gets the shaft. When I returned from my service in the navy I felt like my military service was held against me. What these poor guys went thru was much worse than anything I went thru. I can't help but feel for them.
Being in the army and having made lots of friends in the army, this is quite touching to me, it’s hard to imagine that back then people were heartless, they look down on soldiers for getting injured and being sent home, but being a soldier is VERY hard, I bet about 99% of people wouldn’t even make it through initiation.
Look into the Bonus Army, when American veterans of WW1 had to march on Washington to get what was promised. It's sad that America has had such a terrible track record with taking care of our veterans, but hey, we can get a free appetizer on Veteran's Day. (Sarcasm)
@@bogeds9871, most people have a choice of the career they get into, too many people don't really research what those jobs entail. As well as being unwilling to make the changes to go to another job.
Not gona lie it was quite tough watching this. I come from a military family and when my dad came back from war and I saw how much he suffered from PTSD and stuff like that it hurt to see him in pain. I now serve and this effects me even more. All my brothers and sisters that I have made, they mean everything to me, and to see people who gave so much be treated like animals, hurts in a whole new level.
My great great Grandfather joined up when he was 19 yrs old. He was with the 42nd East Lancs in Gallipoli. His right foot was completely severed during the battle, the result of a Turkish grenade. He survived and was discharged from the army. Back home in England he wore his silver war badge to show others he was honourably discharged, not a coward for being sent home. My Father told me despite this, there was still resentment from those back home where he lived who had lost someone. Some of these were people he had known all his life.
The _first_ thing that came to mind upon seeing the title of this video: "Sixteen years old.. when i went to the War.. to fight for _a land.. fit for heroes...._ " It's from a song by Motorhead called "1916". ..the song never fails to make me tear up. Well worth listening to.
@BoS Sentinel I was actually talking about the BoS pfp, because 1950s ya know? I don't care if your a communist or socialist or whatever, as long as your happy
@BoS Sentinel sir if military not there you would not be here and communism and military are not related and sometimes militaries need to exist us is capitalist why does it have a military i know so the country don't break apart and to make sure there is no threat for the countries survival
"We came from all over the world, so many of us thinking this war would be our rite of passage, our great adventure. Let me tell you, it was no adventure" "New killing machines, like the tank, changed the shape of the war overnight. Luckily, they were mostly on our side, mostly." "Instead of adventure we found fear, and in war the only true equalizer is death." "They push-we push. Every once in a while, we push hard enough that the light breaks through clouds... so the world beyond the war glimmers... just out of reach. The war is the world and the world is the war. But behind every gunsight is a human being. We are those people. We are the jaded and we are the naive. We are the honorable and the criminal. We are the bound-for-legend and we are the lost-to-history. We are the knights of the sky, the ghost in the desert, and the rats in the mud. These are our stories." - BF1 narrator from Storm of steel
After watching these documentaries of soldiers both in WWI and WWII struggling to get back to civilization, it made me realize this is most likely what my grandfather went through after he fought in the Korean War.
The French Side of my family was heavily impacted by the wars. WW1 my great great grandfather fought at Verdun and Chemain de Dames, forgot to strap a bayonet to his rifle and was saved by a friend in hand to hand combat. Went over the top and was one of the only 2 remaining soldiers from his battalion. Came home and lived in poverty with little support on a small farm. My great grandparents in WW2 had it worse. 1 was killed, idk my grandad never told me how, but because of that my grandad ended up growing poor with an abusive stepdad. The other was captured early on in the war and sent to work on a farm until the Germans demanded that he work in a munitions factory, he refused and subsequently ended up in a labour camp. In 1944 he was returned home but looked like a skeleton, the only thing he ever told my mum about the war was that he "could see the fear in the Germans eyes".
“I detest war. But if war came I’d have to go, and my four boys would go, too, because we have ideals in this family.” Theodore Roosevelt LEST WE FORGET
@@shashwatsinha2704 WW1 didnt *only* happen because of the nobility. That's an absurdly reductive take on the contributing factors to WW1 which is, to this day, still a fairly contested historical issue. My immediate point was that it wasnt just the nobility who caused WW1 there were plenty of people in positions of state power that wanted war just as much, if not more, than the nobility.
It's unfortunate. But at least UK veterans have a good sense of maintaining proper order. in the US disgruntled Civil War Veteran Confederate Soldiers formed the KKK. Disgruntled US WWII veterans formed the Hell's Angels.
It was very similar here in Serbia after WWI. So proud that we were WWI allies, greetings from proud descendant of Serbian WWI sergeant. Lest we forget! 🇬🇧🇷🇸
Well the US wasn't exactly any better, see the Vietnam Vets. Basically, Vietnam War was a war where no one won, everyone lost and is the most apparent example to demonstrate that wars cause nothing but suffering.
knowing how these boys suffered so much for their countries only to be ignored by them disgusts me. I'm just glad these movements were successful. I'll gladly stand and salute tomorrow. Lest we forget.
What's extra sad is that I had to explain what remembrance/armistice/veterans day is to a bunch of peolpe because they didnt know what it was Lest we forget
Least we forget Many here in America just don't care, to them it is completely irrelevant, and considering how few of our young people are even eligible to serve it is a bit shocking.
@@robertharper3754 your point proven, I sent this onto a discord server and one of the members (majority of members are american) just sidelined this video I sent
@@sammybeaver9130, many have lost that connection to the military since so few serve, have family that serve or have friends that serve or have served. The closet most get to the military is watching hollywood's version of the military in tv shows and movies, they are seriously ill informed, if they knew how badly in shape our military is that might make some care.
Its a sad day for all sides. But this generation doesn't understand and forgot war and this fake peace. They reject history and don't understand. Which for me hurts deeply
Sadly the British didn't learn from this as evidenced by how they treated the heroic Polish pilots who fought to defend Britain during the Battle of Britain. Arguably the greatest pilots of all the allied forces, after the war was won, they were sent back to Poland where many met their end at the hands of the Soviets (who were also British allies).
One day in NY, i saw a bunch of people making protest saying that there should be a WW1 memorials across the USA I just so glad people still care about these men that risked their lives. Even if they are all dead by now ❤🇺🇸
Veterans are never treated right. They have seen and experienced horrors that we could never imagine, and we hardly think of them. This comment goes out to every veteran, alive or dead, from any time in history, from any country ever. I hope they find respect and peace.
No wonder there was no enthusiasm for the Second World War in the UK. Young men growing up seeing how badly their dad had been treated for being a soldier, seeing disabled vets starving on the streets, knowing they'd probably get the same treatment post-war. That's why Churchill was voted out.
The only two wars when the uk ever really used conscription before the army and navy was made of volunteers which is why the army was always so small. The ultimate reason why the uk had to use conscription was because it for the first time in nearly 100 years was fighting other major european powers and its small elite volunteer army wouldnt stand a chance
I messed up my back in 2009 in Iraq and with a bunch of medical evidence, the VA says its not service related🤬. It hasn't change much from those days.🤕
:( My god father was left sterile from the immunizations and experimental treatments he was given after his time out in those places, so he never had children and probably never will. I hope you can find peace of mind.
@@laredotech I'm sterile from my time in Iraq as well I was a M2 gunner and I stood on top of that Duke system for 16+ hours a day and the radiation from it got to me I guess. I hope they get your situation figured out. Have you tried talking to a VA Advocate. It helped one of my friends I was deployed with get the ratings he deserved.
Both my grandfathers fought in WWI, one in Flanders and the other in the Dardanelles. Luckily they both made it home and were a great influence on me growing up. My fathers, father was an invalid with one lung but still worked as a coal miner. He was a proud man who would not take charity from anyone.
My great grandpa loved to tell me a story about his life after the war. He went to one of those classes for learning new skills. His teacher himself was a battle hardened veteran who suffered a gas attack in flanders and had a wheezing cough in between every sentence. He seemed like such a cool guy from the stories, i wish I got to meet him.
Think the worst part about coming home, for me at least, is how much friends and family didn't even care that I went overseas, or that I came back. Even though nothing extraordinary happened over there, nothing was the same. I was struggling with trying to readapt to normal life, after months of being away. Gf was acting strange around me, which made everything worse, then left few months later.
“They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them.” Laurence Binyon
This makes me think of how my grandfather would say how horrible it was to be making the bombs for Oak Ridge . I always asked him if there were secrets or anything he regretted when I was younger . And he always said that the government will eventually reveal all the disgusting secrets we hid from the public. And that if he ever told us anything we’d about what happened there while he worked on the bombs we’d be in danger. I truly felt sorry for that man he said he had no regrets because he fought for his country that was his duty and for him to live with the horror of making killing machine messed with him . I honor that man he sacrificed not only his life but his mind and heart for his country.
My Grandfather told me years ago I had relatives in England who sheltered a WWI veteran they knew because he couldn't get a job who was always saying "The boys in the Second World War have no idea what we went through!" and the same with my Mothers Grandparents they gave WWI Australian vets jobs on their farm the blokes had lingering PTSD from the war! Many in my family always maintained the WWI was psychologically and physically worse than WWII but I maintain that all War Veterans deserve our respect and thanks!
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Governments: "You were expected to die for your country, but you survived so tough luck"
lol yeah
Thats kinda dark g
it is even worse if your side lost
Imperialistic Europe : *look different direction*
Ha! That sounds like the Soviets. Or the North Koreans, or the chinese.
Like my grandfather used to say: “Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gates”.
The same people who spitting the vets will kneel and beg to them for protection.
Max Luxton wise words
@@Joshua_N-A indeed
Tommy by Rudyard Kipling sums it up
@@Joshua_N-A fact right there
On his return home, one German soldier noted that "we were spat at by whores and deserters and had our shoulder boards torn off, by those who had never even seen a battle".
Those poor SoB’s
Liberals always seem to forget it’s the politicians, *their* politicians who created the war
@@adolfgaming1761 what a stupid thing to say. Like George V, Kaiser Wilhelm, Tsar Nicholas, and Emperor Franz Joseph were liberals? Moron
Maybe just...imperialistic politicians in general
@@grontelp77 If you wanna do politics, do something more than attack someone's intellect. Otherwise be quite, adults are talking.
I think liberals seek imperialism more than conservatives. The democrats here in the US want to bring America into all these global things where as the conservatives want to keep American interests in America. The old imperialist ways of conquest don't work in the nuclear age, This is modern imperialism.
My Great Grandfather signed up and was sent to the front in 1916. He and all the lads on his street signed up together. He became a grenadier guard and fought at the Somme and I am not sure where else until 1917 where he inhaled gas before his sergeant managed to pull a gas mask over his face. He was given 6 months to live but lived to a grand age of 95.
He was a machine gunner so avoided the risk of having to go 'over the top' but I know he suffered too. His gun was hit twice on the opening day of the Somme offensive and the story goes that at the end of the day, he was joking around his mate and an officer walking past remarked that he must be the only man in the British Army laughing , I guess word hadn't come down of the absolute catastrophe that that day had been. I know that had also been a part of a group of men that snuck out into no mans land to retrieve a wounded soldier, for which his NCO was awarded a medal.
He experienced joblessness after the war and the indignity of being made to queue outside the labour exchange in all weathers, he caused such a ruckus there that the veterans were allowed to wait inside the building and were referred to as Mr. A small victory. He was so disgusted with the treatment that they received that he emigrated to Canada where he made a decent income in construction and returned to England a decade later, married and with a son.
Henry James Betts - Grenadier Guard. My hero.
Thanks for reading.
Thanks For sharing your story
Fascinating read, thanks for sharing!
Great, I'm crying, the baby's crying, oh great now the dogs crying.....
Jokes aside this did get me :( atleast this story had a happy ending ✌️
Yeah my grandfather fought in ww1 (he was 50 when my dad was born and my dad was 40 when I was born) and had to work into his mid 70s before he could get any kind of pension because they messed up his records, never got a chance to meet him.
@@motionkabi are you 14 ?
My great grandfather lied about his age to join the British Army to fight in WWI. He was sent to the battlefields of Europe, where, during a gas attack, he was unfortunate enough to inhale some of the gas. He returned home after the war and grew his family. He died in 1949 due to lung disease. We never knew whether the gas he inhaled had to do with it or not. Thank you for making this video, and shedding light on these brave and under appreciated men.
No. Thank you for sharing this short story, rest in peace to your grandfather
I would like to thank your grandfather for fighting for our freedom and us and our future ❤️
May your grandfather forevermore be remembered as a hero. I thank him for his service.
My greatgrandfather served in the german army in ww1 as he came home he had a Bullet in his lung that couldnt be removed. He had difficulties with breathing for the rest of bis live.
God bless the Veterans all over the World!
@@marksman6004 fighting for one's country should never be looked down upon. Despite the differences in ideals your grandfather also deserves respect.
Being talked down to by people who wouldn’t last a day is pretty common for those getting out, it’s honestly quite sad.
Hey now, at least we get a free meal on Veteran's Day in the US! (Sarcasm) Many people in the US think that our Veterans Administration takes care of everything for us, that couldn't be farther from the truth. The VA can be a nightmare worse than combat.
It seems to go in highs and lows with the conflict level around the world... when I was in around 9/11 I felt like a rockstar all the way till I finished my tour... nowadays there’s almost an active disdain for us (almost like what the video is portraying with WWI vets) honestly think the only reason companies hire vets is because the tax credit (and not because they’re “being here for the heroes”)
@@robertharper3754 damn
@@Uhaneole In all honesty, Britain during the mid 19th century had the same problem were soldiers were shat on by the population...until the Crimean war. That's were people first heard stories of what soldiers and sailors endured(the charge of the light brigade) and the introduction of Victoria cross for valour in the face of the enemy.
That’s the problem in today’s society, men are seen as tough and fearless people but men can have mental Illness such as PTSD and Depression. Society cares more about Women’s mental health than Men.
One of the last surviving veterans of WWI came to my secondary school in 2008 to answer questions for my classmates, who were doing their GCSEs in history. He told my headteacher something I will never forget: "I am so grateful to have fought for a generation that is so confident and inspiring today."
Bless you and RIP Henry Allingham (6 June 1896 - 18 July 2009) 😢
Huh.. Look at his birthday. I wonder how he feel at his birthday in 1944 when the Allied start to liberate France from Germany. Seeing his son's generation take a fight to the enemy he fought decades ago. RIP.
@@johncarter4956 Germans in WW2 were different. In WW1, some, if not most, British soldiers would have rathered to fight the French with the Germans than the Germans with the French.
R.I.P
@sketchy scotsman Yes... one of the few WWI veterans who reached supercentenarian status (those who've lived at least 110 years).
What did he tell u
Those we fight, aren't necessarily our enemies. Those we fight for aren't necessarily our friends.
The christmas truce of 1914 is proof of this quote. It really warms my heart to read about enemies having fun and sharing gifts among each other. If it weren't for the war, all of those men would most likely have been friends
@@alexthibodeau979 when they knew that they were all just people and didnt have much differences. Sadly the higher ups made sure they started killing each other again and because of all the stupid people who were the leaders at the time their kids could do it all again about 20 years later
@@bpdbhp1632 In that situation, I can't help but think that if they had all just chosen to leave together or to defend one another, well who knows.
Is this your quote or someone else's?
Cos man it's actually pretty good
@@potatoesandducks958 Thanks, i wish could claim authorship. But it's something i picked up some years ago.
"Good luck, everyone."~Captain Blackadder before going over the top.
One of the best tv moments
"I'm scared, sir"
@@somerandomdude23764 And one of the saddest
@@MrOist Couldn't agree more
It's a cunning plan, actually.
“We were promised homes fit for heroes, they gave us heroes fit for homes” - ‘Grandad’ Trotter, Only Fools and Horses
“War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it.” Erasmus 1400s
That's what I thought of it's such a poignant scene. One of the reasons I love fools and horses is because of the serious scenes followed by humour
@@KandiKlover Yeah man. Exactly.
Like we usually get so appealed with video games having a war themed background, all because of the intense excitement due to the sounds and being able to use a diverse array of weapons and vehicles which will not usually occur for ordinary people.
But in reality though, if you ever encounter a bloody conflict just beside your house, you'll regret such experience. It's a visual nightmare.
It takes balls of steel to witness and even face your enemy who, just like your side, has so many things which are deadly enough to decimate a large amount of people.
As a result, for example I'm telling, we shouldn't judge our soldiers immediately for their failings in defending our country. We shouldn't be such people who don't even had a glimpse about the brutal reality of a war.
That was one of the deepest moments in the whole show.
Feminists fought only for themselves, leaving men to and preventing men from fighting for their own rights, while calling that ‘their version of’ "equality”. Feminists also are the ones benefiting from the safety of not getting conscripted while blaming men for all the destruction of war.
All the same time, because men fought not for themselves when they had the weapons, they continued to be seen as dispensables. Those thinking for themselves are labeled as diserters and were shot. This massive inbalance of rights need to be addressed. Men should not have to live in fear of conscription, and should not have to live in a lower caste system becoming a dispensable in a nation they spend blood building.
Isn't it weird that people who sacrifice their lives only get a few dollars while the people that has never seen the frontline get thousands.
Millions brother*
Bullshit youtubers being rich while people like this channel can't say some simple words. Our society got soft and stupid.
Well jobs like construction are also hard because construction workers have a chance of dying from falling from heights and stuff like that
Its not weird its people being clueless sheep. Mind fucked into believing they're fighting for their "country" and "ideals."
@@shreygera1281 in a memoir I read it says the retirement money was a few pounds for a average soldier and a few thousand for the higher ups.
I know a person who was hit by an IED in Afghanistan, though he did get a pension nobody bothered to give him support which ended up in him owing about over 15k in taxes. The government collector, said to him “you owe it to your country to pay taxes” (the issue he had was with short term memory so he wouldn’t know what was needed to do. That was the moment my last piece of respect for my government was lost.
He shouldnt have fought an overseas war for oil, provided by the military industrial complex on taxpayer dollars, enriching bankers.
@@morrisl7 it’s ppl like you, that is the reason for both Canada and America there’s so many homeless veterans, jobless and all, u have 0 respect or acknowledgement in the fact he had no choice he fought for his country and had 0 choice i in where he went, was subsequently injured and when the time came for even ppl to support him ppl like u said well it’s not my problem, that is greed leaving it for someone else, if it was your family member you’d beg but won’t give help that is the way of the universe what goes around comes around and for poor ppl that deserve the best u need at the very least to respect them.... because it’s you at the end of the day that’ll wind up begging for those ppl
@@morrisl7 your just like the government collector in the comment
@@clorygaming something is I've never been Frontline combat most because I've only been on this earth for 9 years but through video games have kind of gutters and blues of what it was like when I play Battlefield 1 my expectations when I first played to survive and push through and Capture the Flag with my team is but what I got was completely and rated artillery from enemy was firing a test thanks for there bullet raining everywhere debris was falling down and then things got intent so the I could hear the soldiers screaming I could hear the squad Lita blowing his whistle to get us to the sector it was Madness and the apocalypse DLC was even worse I was playing or with no had and and and no brightness so it was terrifying synfire round gas being thrown artillery mortars everywhere no thank support no plain support nothing just bear with a bolt action rifles or SMG light machine guns just pushing through dysentery scared with the most because it seems overpowered morning as down and we're trying to take the objective I know it sounds over exaggerating but that's what I felt like I expected something else just us pushing to the sector like Call of Duty holding it but no I got something totally different
@@morrisl7 yeah, America invaded Afghanistan in 2001 because of oil. It definitely wasn't anything else
Imagine losing a leg from a war to protect your country, only to be ignored by the public and seen as a beggar
That happens in USA
Well, a lot of them WERE beggars.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me true true, but the public treated them like a homeless beggar
@@octaviakustiawan7471 yea but I think he means WERE
@@octaviakustiawan7471 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe just treating beggars in general better would have helped.
"I'm cast aside now that I've played my part
I lie in the street, I beg not to starve
I'm crippled, disfigured, you just look away
The war you forgot, the price I have paid"
Who’s that from ?
@@oldworldblu3s305 Warbringer - Shellfire from Woe to the Vanquished album
@@andrewkomlyev4877 thanks
"The elder starts wars, but it is the youth who fight for them."
-Herbert Hoover
Edit: Herbert Hoover
Literaly
If one of the most intelligent man say that, you know how messed up the world is
And the worst part is it's not just him who says how messed up the world is.
*King Leonidas would like to know your location*
He even regretted saying the possibility of an atomic bomb, because of how humans will abuse it overtime
"But nobody cheered,
They just stood there and stared,
Then turned all their faces away."
And the band played Waltzing Matilda
@@a-10thunderboltii24 And their ghosts may be heard as they march by that Billabong.
Who'll come a waltzing matilda with me?
*Straya*
And the band plays Waltzing Matilda
And the old men still answer the call
But year after year
Their numbers get fewer
Someday no one will march there at all
@@Tetsuza_3 I will. As a World War One living historian, I tell the story for those who no longer can.
This brought tears to my eyes, no shame in saying that.
Agreed.
Shame on their government even though it was a long time ago.
@@yano1934 Even today an SAS veteran is homeless from the famous iran embassy raid
I feel a measure of shame in NOT crying.
@@porsche-sandoesnotundersta8184 their government and their country doesn't deserve them.
I can just feel one of them thinking “So this is what I fought for?”
should have joined the germans, atleast they paid their soldier's when they didn't go bankrupt
Whenever you join a military, you need to always understand what you’re fighting for. In the end, it’s always for the politicians and rich people anyways.
@@krissianvictir1291 sometime people doesnt have the right due to the stupid conscription scheme. mister. so get off ur high horse and into the trench
@@krissianvictir1291 Conscription?
" The fucking government lie to us"
Could you imagine the absolute brass pair this government would have to have when WW2 comes around and they tell their countrymen "Could you do it again?"
😂😂
First of all the problem is you phrased that question as if asking for a request, it wasn't a request nor did they asked.
Second of all war is for the youth, not the old. 20 years is enough time to get a new generation thrown in.
In the military 30 is old and 40 is elderly, anything after that is a jerryatric.
You again
@@Marinealver Regardless, the British had shown that they care little for the survivors of the wars that the Government started. Why would you willingly sign up to fight the second World War when you've grown up seeing how veterans of the first were treated upon their return from the trenches?
@@Marinealver allot of ww1 vets fought in ww2
Lesson: Don't misstreat war veterans! Especially when they are great at speaking in public...
That'll happen when you have a soldier who was a rejected from an art school and deeply resentful.
Hitler reference :(
@@LTarts23 So?
@@LTarts23 No, bet it's Churchill
@@leehongjin6884 or just generally when they are a washout from society. 😂😂😂
Same thing in Germany, with the Freikorps and all.
People gave up four years of their lives and even parts of their body and minds, and got nothing in return.
But the Freikorps took it into a whole new level.
@@_____Z_____ how about no.
@@_____Z_____ bihiooooo
@@_____Z_____ *Biden
RH RAFID NFAC how about no you degenerate
@@_____Z_____ Biden proudly put in a law which gave the police the power they have today, and hes a a pretty strong advocate for continuing foreign US intervention. Hes just trump but less isolationist.
This brought a tear to my eye. As a disabled veteran thank you for all you do on this channel with the level of respect you show.
man im not a vet nor a soldier but I really cried....Its just a harsh reality.......
Thank you for your service sir. I wish i could invite you over dinner just to show how grateful I am.
Thank you for everything you done
Real veteran? K
The world salutes you for your service
Any British civilians who were blind to their servicemen’s pleas for help got a rude awakening 20 years later. They had little to no clue of a fraction of what horrors they truly faced, but that all changed when the Nazis began bombing their cities.
The treatment of soldiers here reminds me a lot of how American veterans were treated after Vietnam
Growing up in the 1970's, I often overheard Vietnam veterans say they identified (and felt like they had more in common) with their grandfathers who had fought in WWI as opposed to their fathers who had fought in WWII.
People didn't like the Vietnam war come the end so it would make some sorta sense they wouldn't be pleased with them who fought in it
Vietnam was nothing like WW1-2. America was being a power hungry aggressor attempting to crush a small nation.
@@sorincaladera936 geez don't open a book or anything
@@dragonhearted7761 your sure told me 👍 America has been an aggressor for over half a century now. Nobody needs books to know how obvious that is
"No ex-servicemen need apply" translates to "I deserve a bayonet to the balls"
Put the bayonet on a shotgun that would be better
@@Tismdylan and hold down the trigger and grab the pump and push it back and fourth so the the shotgun is slamfire
@@Tismdylan stab, then shoot
@@Tismdylan bayonet on a flamethrower for good measure
Sadly enough I’ve seen those exact words in job applications in the U.K. today.
"Don't expect the loyalty to be returned because it won't be." --- Captian Robert Laurance, Royal Scots Guards MC
Soldier: **survives through WW1**
Goverment: you weren't supposed to do that
Sad but tru
Dark but this is exactly what happens
They were meant to die on a battlefield somewhere... thats the worst part
Damn! Too funny!
Your duty has always been to die, soldier!
"Sgt kelly" from Doom
One of the most overly propagandized wars in history, all fought on false pretenses and glory, truly one of the most bittersweet ironies recorded in history.
@Maintenance Renegade We've been fighting wars in the mid-East because of some abomination of a treaty over a 100yrs ago!!!! This is why the U.S joining The Great War was a mistake.
@Maintenance Renegade Well, the sinking of the British passenger ship the Lusitania (1915) and the deaths of 189 Americans on the ship, is what drove the American people to favor the allies. However, the final tipping point was the Zimmerman note sent to Mexico from Germany (1917) asking if Mexico would join the Central Powers and invade the U.S, in of which Mexico declined. But yeah the Lusitania was technically a justified military target. Even with all this, the U.S shouldn't have joined the War because their wasn't anything to gain, and all we got was a Great Depression because France and Great Britain couldn't pay their debts in the late 1920's; to the U.S, which they were getting their debt payments from Germany, also contributing to the crash of the U.S stock market and the banks going into debt because of their heavy investments and heavy reliance on the stock market.
Well a country which we gave a garantee too was being tresspassed by germany and civilians were being killed i would say that was a good reason/ another letting germany and austria become the largest powers would of also been terrible
@@afriendlycadian9857 Not really, I don't hear you or anyone accusing the British Empire and the French Empire for killing civilians when when they were busy colonizing other parts of the world. Tbh France, Great Britain, and Russia were much more of a threat to world domination than the German and Austria-Hungarian Empires which didn't have any colonies and didn't have any plans for world domination, only domination in Europe, unlike the French and the British Empires which were still actively trying to control as much of the world as possible.
@Maintenance Renegade How is honoring a guarantee of independence for a neutral state a flimsy excuse to enter a war?
"War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing eachother" ---Nico bellic,2008
who says you can’t learn anything from video games
@@panzalinopanzultimate4796 my mom probably
Hey Nico wanna go bowling?
@@beeaggressive160 sorry Roman I'm middle of a bank heist
@@vandansonkar7819 Hey Niko! Wanna go play darts?
There once was an old saying but I do not remember who said it but goes, “Dying is easy, living is harder.”
Remember me to what washington said in hamilton the musical. Dying is easy young men, living is harder.
Rurouni Kenshin?
Death has got to be easy because life is hard
Outlaw Josey Wales?
"Death is light as a feather, duty as heavy as a mountain." That one? It's what Japanese soldiers in the 19th and 20th century were told to boost morale.
My grandfather used to live in a village in the mountain when he was a child. It was common to see beggars, passing through their village, such as wounded veterans. It was shortly after WW2. He remembers one man with both missing legs riding a donkey.
@Eric Konschuh the man lost legs
@Eric Konschuh unless its a joke that i missed from you
@Eric Konschuh Stop joking around. If you are not serious enough to have a respect to these war heroes, go to another comment section.
I respect and admire your grandfather’s experience but it’s sad that he’s not the only one who’d see veterans on the streets, which is downing
@@АнтониоМарлевски thank you 🙏🙏🙏
When you go home, tell them of us and say
For your tomorrow, we gave our today. Lest we forget.
Lest we forget
Lest we forget
Lest we forget.
Lest we forget
Lest we forget
My dad was a spetsnaz sniper during the Afghan war, after he came back he was stunned at how nobody cared about how much he did, it effected him so much he immigrated to America and had me and my brother, my brother wanted to join the army a few years ago but my dad begged him and broke down about how the governments treat their soldiers, it was the first time we ever saw our dad cry
He ever talk about the war?
@tiernanwearen6624 rarely and only when drunk, he has funny stories of course since my uncle served with him and my uncle is hilarious, but the stories your probably looking for I've only heard a handful. He regrets not killing his own officers more than anything from what he's said, lots of corruption and no punishment for ranking men. My uncle has a lot more stories but he saw less action than my dad did
@crispycrimson6448 can you please explain how your dad an ex spetsnaz Soviet sniper Managed to immigrate to the United States ??My Dream is to Immigrate to the US and live and work there I'm tired of living in Algeria, I tried the Green Card lottery twice but haven't got lucky still I wish you a good night/Day it depends on when you read this
@cheriefsadeksadek2108 immigranted to Canada, snuck into the US and then broke about a dozen laws to fake an identity until he was able to study up and take the test to get a green card. My mom went back home to Ireland and easily immigrated using a work visa then got her card by marrying my dad.
Broke my heart watching this... Not hard to imagine how veterans from poorer country even suffered more like Romania, Russia, Turkey
Actually in turkey veterans respected and honoured at least
@@mehmetkesci1041 how about other countries ?
Imagine the veterans of the of the Russian white army after they lost
It did happen in Indonesia aswell. My grandpa who is a marine soldier, had better life than most of ww2 soldier veterans. He served during Timor Insurgencies and Papua. I don't know if the government gave them veterans some money, but I hope they care too to the WWII veterans and not just post-WWII veteran soldiers.
Also, 10 November is the Day of The Heroes in my country, as that day is to remember all soldiers that fought and died during the war. During school, it is something that made me cry, deep down in my heart, cause during WWII, they fought with only sharped bamboo and stolen weapons from enemy soldiers
Edit: some WWII veterans are supported by their children/grandchildren/great grandchildren, but I don't know much about the others
@@weetme1613 kan veteran kemerdekaan masih diurusin sama anak anak nya
Im just disgusted in the people back home, and the government.
@@securityguard8641 2nd German Reich*
@Felix Stotts yeah i cant believe how entitled the world feels about american help
What about their colonies who made up most of their army?
@Felix Stottsumm... Americans didn't even close to reach 1 million casualties during the first war, but the part about you saying how the first world War was just pointless and meaningless to the American people unlike the second war is true
@@kyronmedina7623 thanks for the correction, forgot about that.
Imagine serving in one of the most brutal wars in human history at 18 years, losing lims and be scarred for life then going back home just to be treated like this
Well after ww1 the economy of the uk etc easnt doing well having had to buy lota of sruff from the us who acrually increased their prices for all countries
@@afriendlycadian9857 Thats not an excuse for their treatment
@@raypod5964 its literally an excuse just because you dont like it doesnt mean its not an excuse i agree its a terrible excuse but the government will use any excuse to save money sadly
Not everyone saw combat, and there weren't enough jobs for everyone coming back home at once unless you were an officer and had connections
@chinsaw2727 to save money hiring someone with ptsd could potentially be a huge harm on the business if they can’t work effectively or break things
My great grandfather survived the First World War and served in the British Home Guard in World War 2.
He was a true hero. May he rest in peace, for he was a brave and honorable man.
Damn, your great grandfather was One thought nut to crack. After everything shown in this video happened to him, he still did It all over again. RIP
@Jake Curtis is he fought in gallipoli
Or witch trench in ww1 *RESPECT*
Wow!!
you reminded me of dad's army.
As a Royal naval serviceman, it’s horrifying to know that at such a time vulnerable veterans were essentially left to fend for themselves after the Great War
The way sailors of the Royal Navy were treated after fending off the Spanish Armada was even worse. Deliberately left out at sea with no rations, so the government wouldn't have to pay them once they came ashore.
Its sad that the british goverment gives barely anything to veterans, yet give all kinds of things to immagrants who did nothing.
U.S. Vietnam Veterans
@@bigbrowntau I wish to know what you meant? I’m pretty sure some of those immigrants are in the military and working jobs
The worst thing is, during the First World War Churchill cleared out Dartmouth and sent them to war. They knew they were sending children to die
Imagine just surviving a war where you seen death around you and barely surviving and going home to be rejected, that would be extremely depressing...
Unfortunately, it still happens.
Life Sucks...
LIVE WITH IT!
@@Marinealver a bit harsh don’t cha think.
Yeah :/
@@Marinealver let’s see how you go fighting in a war champ
*"A great nation, is a nation that respects and honours the services of it's heroes"*
- Ir Soekarno, the First Presiden of Republic of Indonesia.
So none of them.
@@eco_k.o_o yeah sadly
@Limau Purut Well i think we can agree first and second leader of a country is not that good
@Labiche Indonesia their veterans properly like really good
My dad's a veteran, and he always said "if you want to see change in your government, pay the elected officials / MP the wages of a Military recruit."
They couldn't handle it, and they would scoff at the very idea. Same goes for our politicians in America, if you forced them and their families to get medical care at the VA, the VA would have a chance at getting fixed, along with the rest of the health care industry here.
Robert Harper a lot more vets are getting elected into office these days
@@kennypowers2341, hopefully that will change some things, but I won't hold my breath. Sadly, there are plenty of solutions for the problems veteran's face, but the political will isn't there to do any of them. Probably because it gives politicians something to campaign on promising to fix, and they'll blame the other side as to why they get nothing done.
Old man:
"Fight for your country coward!"
Soldier:
"Yes sir!"
*After War*
Soldier:
"Please help. I sacrificed everything for our country."
Old man:
"You're pathetic! Man up!"
I know right
Depends on the person. Some veterans really need help. And some of them are just self pitying.
So if the old men are really wise and knowledgeable, they are right. Otherwise they are stupid.
But its quite sad this happens...
A soldier, bringing a saw: you want me to cut your leg or your arm just like me?
this is sad but its true some veterans need help and the old men laugh at them
Patton, Is that you?
“The best move in war, is not to play”
Sun Tzu said that?
@@TheIndogamer and he knows a little more about war than you do pal because he invented it. And he perfected till no living man could best him in the ring of honor!
War is overrated!
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@@Crispy_pata Click here to sign a petition to ban war
As a french man once said:”you are lions led by donkeys.” The leaders truly didn’t know the trauma of these soldiers
WWI veterans after they returned to their countries:”I expect us to get respected.”
Government:”We expected you to die in those trenches.”
How many aristocrats from both sides died?
@@Joshua_N-A red baron is only one i can name
@@TheJarric And he's remembered as a Legend to this day
@@Joshua_N-A I can only speek about the German side.
But a lot of German aristocrats died in ww1,
because many of them were officers in the army.
Not only the generals but also Lieutenants who lead the charges to inspire the troops.
Many German aristrocratic ww2 generals fought at the front in ww1 when they did not have such a high rank.
Well known examples are Erich von Manstein and Günther von Kluge, who both got seriously injured in combat action.
I think that aristrocrats had a lot of pressure to participate in the war and earn medals, because they were expected
to do so by their families.
@@gerritgrauwinkel8665 the entire community probably would expect them to perform duties just like their forefathers before.
Most of the german veterans were also home and jobless after the war.
One of the big problems
He covers that at the end a bit. German veterans tended to be quite a bit angrier than the British and Frenchmen though. American veterans damn near coup'd the government when it refused to help initially.
@@alexporter7379 what exactly do you mean with 'tended to be angrier'?
@@fabovondestory they had all the same issues as British veterans, but with the added side effects of a crippled economy, and the shame of loss.
@@fabovondestory Oh I don't know, maybe they were so angry, a certain angry mustached man by the name of "Adolf Hitler" overthrew the government and started another world war.
Crazy right?
@@purpleteaisme you Name is... interessting
Cheered upon by the people
Lived in the horrors of the battlefield
Returned home with an emotionless/broken body
And the people who cheered, forgot about them
It's "Tommy this" and "Tommy that", and "chuck him out, the brute"
But it's "savior of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot
- Rudyard Kipling
Rudyard Kipling lost his son in the war.
My grandfather fought in WW2 in the romanian army,he survived and the communists took his land and his agricultural machines,after that he was commited in a mental hospital
La mine străbunicii au luptat in Al Doilea Război Mondial și au supraviețuit comunismul dar și dictatura lui Zelea-Codreanu de dinaintea razboiului. Au murit cand aveam eu 2 ani.
😞😞
I know the feeling neighbor. Im from Bulgaria.. My great great grandfather served in WW1 with the cavalry. He came home different according to great grandmother. He finally left for the United States to work for railroad company in midwest. He came with a lot of money and build a factory. It was his until January 1945. Soviets took everything from him. He resisted and was threatened that his whole family will be sent in Siberia if he continues.
Communist destroyed europe, my family have also agrocultural machines stolen by communists.
I'm sorry for your grandfather.
Aside from the mental hospital that was quite common occurence in the eastern block Europe.
I really can't comprehend how can someone glorify these communist bastards.
My dad fought in Iraq in the Persian Gulf War and every year we visit the memorials in Washington DC. He frequently donates to veterans organizations and he always encourages the rest of our family to do the same
you should of lied about a different war informed ppl wont support the iraq war
Could care less about the cannon fodder who died in Iraq they died for nothing
@@tylerdunn9683 imagine disrespecting the dead
This isn't about america this is ww1
@@tylerdunn9683 trust me man I was an edgy 14 yr old once too ur gonna remember typing these and visibly cringe some day down the line 😂
“When we needed them the most they were there, when they needed us the most we were nowhere to be seen”
“Thinking about Vietnam once in a while, in a crazy kind of way, I wish that just for a while, I could be there. And then be transported back. Maybe just to be there so I’d wish I was back here again.” Anonymous U.S. Serviceman
This only shows how cruel our society and state of mind is. We cannot appreciate what these men have been trough, what sacrifices they made and how they were treated. At the end, as John Bairon wrote in his "Don Juan" the generals and commanders are the great victors with big pensions and praises but at the same time nobody even thinks of who are the actual heroes of this conflict. Every war leads only to death and destruction. It is a terrible thing no matter what anyone says. There aren't any winners nor heroes in destroying families and homes. May the brave men who gave/risked their lives for the fatherland rest in peace... They were just a tool for achieving somebody else's ideals and interests.
for the first time in almost ever I respect a jojo pfp and agree with them
I'm an old British army veteran . I just got through life the best I could. Living alone and on borrowed time now. But, I have no regrets. It was my choice to serve. I don't think of myself as a hero or even brave. Just did what I thought was right. I hope my service helped to keep peace and protect the innocent.
Bye
Live in peace with each other.
Thanks for your service man, your work will not be forgotten.
Ur service protected the ppl who couldn't fight and had. the whole world is proud of Y'all
Thank you for service, I don't mean this in a spoiled way, but you've given more than I've ever had.
@@meero3110 what do you mean what war?
@@meero3110 ?
"Young men don't die for their country, they die for the whims of the old men"
My disillusioned great grandfather believed that when he was in service back in ww2 and in the korean war.
Nah. The civil war, the second world war and the korean war were different from the wars that followed. We fought those because of principle and to help people who genuinely wanted our help, the vietnam war failed because our motivation there was mostly about the fear of the spread of communism than there being a people who really wanted our help. If youre not convinced then try to look for the thank you commerial south korea aired for veterans a few days ago, its quite a tear jerker.
@@lespectator4962 You do know that the Korean war and the Vietnam war were fought for the exact same reason right, to stop the spread of communism. And the Korean people didn't really care about who won the war. both north and south Korea were incredibly authoritarian both sides committing frequent purges of political opponents and human rights violations. in fact before the collapse of the soviet union, north Korea had a better standard of living than south Korea due to soviet loans. The south only began to grow and democratize during the 80s that's also the start of the south Korean peoples appreciation of the sacrifices of the us and rok army but before the 80s they couldn't care less. And the reason America lost the Vietnam war was that us generals planned combat operations as if if they were conventional wars rather than insurgency's not to mention that every time the Viet Cong were beaten they would just flee to Cambodia or north Vietnam to rebuild.
@@darrelkh8774There was still more will among the korean people to resist communism that there was among the vietnamese. The fact that Seoul fell and they got pushed all the way back to the Pusan perimeter and still bitterly fought on states that, they even went as far as executing sympathizers on their own. When Saigon fell south vietnam just collapsed entirely. The south vietnamese government didnt even take measures to continue the struggle in spite such a forseeable event because they were so dependent on america to do everything that their president was caught in his office like he had no clue by NVA troops like it was just another day at work that he still thought he was still in a position to negotiate by stating that "he was ready to hand over power". He was so oblivious to it all.
The main reason the west lost the vietnam war was because they never had any intention of invading the north, they even restricted bombing it for a time. The communists used this as leverage and won through sheer perseverance, not military might. The NVA could never face the US in open battle, but south vietnam simply didnt do much with the breathing room the US gave it. Not in any historical record would you find any effort of south vietnam to claim the whole country when both north and south korea state that intention to this day.
@@lespectator4962 The Pusan perimeter managed to hold due to un reinforcements but holding Pusan didn't drive back the north the Inchon landing's did, and during the battle for the Pusan perimeter the south suffered more than twice the amount of casualties than the un troops. And just like the arvn the rok army was heavily dependent on the us for practically everything and when north Vietnam invaded
the south 1975 the arvn put up a better fight
than south Korea did in 1950 but unfortunately for the south Vietnamese their was no un to save them and since all of their equipment came from the us and since the new us presidential administration cut of all aid it was only a matter of time before they fell. and if your wondering why the arvn didn't put up a fight in their version of the Pusan perimeter, well they did that was the fall of Saigon and the only un troops in Saigon were ones who were evacuating their respective citizens, They weren't their to save their republic. If you look on a map Saigon is located at the far south of Vietnam. The president of south Vietnam wasn't oblivious to the nva he just knew it was impossible to win if they had no outside help. The only reason south Korea still exists today was un intervention not the peoples "determination against communism."
(and btw plz don't accuse me of being a "commie"
for I am anything but as i believe in the free market.)
@@darrelkh8774 @Chargingpath387 The simple fact is, south vietnam enjoyed more benefits and longer periods of help than south korea did, but didnt make anything out of it. Stating that the UN helped south korea instead of the US alone isn't very relevant as the US contributed majority if not almost all of the aid they got.
The Pusan perimeter held its own and did push back the communists, the landings at Inchon only provided a second front to divert north korean efforts to allow Pusan to break out. The only reinforcements south korea received to hold Pusan initially was task force smith, which wasnt very substantial. They had to hold out and fight bitterly to keep Pusan to buy time for the UN to send the real help. But the fact that the ROK held out long enough to still be able to be reinforced in spite their massive initial losses is a testament to the difference of their resolve compared to south vietnam, which fell apart as soon as they started to lose ground.
South vietnam didnt even have to face the direct military intervention from the nations that sponsor north vietnam like the koreans did, just the NVA and communists from their own land. South Korea and the UN had to fight off both North Korea AND China, so what was their excuse? They couldn't beat north vietnam even with the help of the strongest super power in the world and the full commitment of its military, even though the only help other communists gave north vietnam were just in the form equipment, and never direct military intervention? Its doubtful south vietnam lost because of mere guerilla tactics.
"I want what they want. And every other guy who came over here and spilled his guts and gave everything he had wants. For our country to love us as much as we love it. That's what I want." -- Rambo.
The returning veteran always gets the shaft. When I returned from my service in the navy I felt like my military service was held against me. What these poor guys went thru was much worse than anything I went thru. I can't help but feel for them.
Being in the army and having made lots of friends in the army, this is quite touching to me, it’s hard to imagine that back then people were heartless, they look down on soldiers for getting injured and being sent home, but being a soldier is VERY hard, I bet about 99% of people wouldn’t even make it through initiation.
Look into the Bonus Army, when American veterans of WW1 had to march on Washington to get what was promised. It's sad that America has had such a terrible track record with taking care of our veterans, but hey, we can get a free appetizer on Veteran's Day. (Sarcasm)
The same thing happened decades later with vietnam,korea,ww2, desert storm etc.
@Matt allen, Why are you in a job you hate?
Most people dont always have the luxury of choosing jobs
@@bogeds9871, most people have a choice of the career they get into, too many people don't really research what those jobs entail. As well as being unwilling to make the changes to go to another job.
Not gona lie it was quite tough watching this. I come from a military family and when my dad came back from war and I saw how much he suffered from PTSD and stuff like that it hurt to see him in pain. I now serve and this effects me even more. All my brothers and sisters that I have made, they mean everything to me, and to see people who gave so much be treated like animals, hurts in a whole new level.
Like it said in Battlefield 1
“They thought it would be our great adventure, let me tell you. It was no adventure.”
“In Flanders field the poppy grow.”
The poem that i hear everytime i think about ww1
They were promised homes fit for heroes, more like heroes fit for homes 🙁
Ahhh I just watched that episode earlier today, very true words
Classic speech from grandad in OFAH.
@qwertyafrojkthataintme nah its my custom fifa character circa 2017 😂
Motto of the US Veterans Administration:
Giving Service Members a second chance to die for their country.
I dread going to my yearly physical. I hate the VA with a passion.
@@johnarnold7984 i hate going to that physical too, especially when I have to get a blood test or vaccine.
The VA; making the war the second worst experience in your life.
If you didn’t die for your country, the VA will make damn sure you wish you had
Cringe
My great great Grandfather joined up when he was 19 yrs old. He was with the 42nd East Lancs in Gallipoli. His right foot was completely severed during the battle, the result of a Turkish grenade. He survived and was discharged from the army. Back home in England he wore his silver war badge to show others he was honourably discharged, not a coward for being sent home. My Father told me despite this, there was still resentment from those back home where he lived who had lost someone. Some of these were people he had known all his life.
The _first_ thing that came to mind upon seeing the title of this video:
"Sixteen years old.. when i went to the War.. to fight for _a land.. fit for heroes...._ "
It's from a song by Motorhead called "1916".
..the song never fails to make me tear up. Well worth listening to.
Citizens during war: *Plz don't go!*
Citizens after the war: *Why are u here?*
Soldiers: Just to suffer
@BoS Sentinel that's ironic on so many levels
@BoS Sentinel I was actually talking about the BoS pfp, because 1950s ya know? I don't care if your a communist or socialist or whatever, as long as your happy
@BoS Sentinel sir if military not there you would not be here and communism and military are not related and sometimes militaries need to exist us is capitalist why does it have a military i know so the country don't break apart and to make sure there is no threat for the countries survival
@Comrade Karim The communist system sucks lmao
"We came from all over the world, so many of us thinking this war would be our rite of passage, our great adventure. Let me tell you, it was no adventure"
"New killing machines, like the tank, changed the shape of the war overnight. Luckily, they were mostly on our side, mostly."
"Instead of adventure we found fear, and in war the only true equalizer is death."
"They push-we push. Every once in a while, we push hard enough that the light breaks through clouds... so the world beyond the war glimmers... just out of reach. The war is the world and the world is the war. But behind every gunsight is a human being. We are those people. We are the jaded and we are the naive. We are the honorable and the criminal. We are the bound-for-legend and we are the lost-to-history. We are the knights of the sky, the ghost in the desert, and the rats in the mud. These are our stories." - BF1 narrator from Storm of steel
Battledfield 1 theme starts to play
After watching these documentaries of soldiers both in WWI and WWII struggling to get back to civilization, it made me realize this is most likely what my grandfather went through after he fought in the Korean War.
The French Side of my family was heavily impacted by the wars. WW1 my great great grandfather fought at Verdun and Chemain de Dames, forgot to strap a bayonet to his rifle and was saved by a friend in hand to hand combat. Went over the top and was one of the only 2 remaining soldiers from his battalion. Came home and lived in poverty with little support on a small farm. My great grandparents in WW2 had it worse. 1 was killed, idk my grandad never told me how, but because of that my grandad ended up growing poor with an abusive stepdad. The other was captured early on in the war and sent to work on a farm until the Germans demanded that he work in a munitions factory, he refused and subsequently ended up in a labour camp. In 1944 he was returned home but looked like a skeleton, the only thing he ever told my mum about the war was that he "could see the fear in the Germans eyes".
“I detest war. But if war came I’d have to go, and my four boys would go, too, because we have ideals in this family.”
Theodore Roosevelt
LEST WE FORGET
Except ww1 happened only because of the nobility.
@@shashwatsinha2704 I wouldnt dismiss the efforts of statesmen in causing WW1 so casually.
@@anon4854 can you elaborate?
@@shashwatsinha2704 WW1 didnt *only* happen because of the nobility. That's an absurdly reductive take on the contributing factors to WW1 which is, to this day, still a fairly contested historical issue. My immediate point was that it wasnt just the nobility who caused WW1 there were plenty of people in positions of state power that wanted war just as much, if not more, than the nobility.
@@anon4854 True.
Sad thing is, this still happens today in our country. (UK)
Ohhhh shot really
The country that puts Foreigners First, thus spitting on our ancestors and what they fought to preserve.
It's unfortunate. But at least UK veterans have a good sense of maintaining proper order. in the US disgruntled Civil War Veteran Confederate Soldiers formed the KKK. Disgruntled US WWII veterans formed the Hell's Angels.
Ah, I see white nationalism is prevalent in your country as well.
@@SoloWaterCup Its a problem in the majority of the first world.
It was very similar here in Serbia after WWI. So proud that we were WWI allies, greetings from proud descendant of Serbian WWI sergeant. Lest we forget! 🇬🇧🇷🇸
Moj sine, nema tu nikakvog prijateljstva već samo politički interesi. Britanci nas nikad nisu smatrali dostojnim ljudima. Držimo se mi nas samih..
"some of you may die but it's a sacrifice i'm willing to make" - UK government to the enlisted soldiers probaly.
"What encouraged you to treat your soldiers so badly"
UK: *money*
@@hiimryan2388 true moneys moneys
Well the US wasn't exactly any better, see the Vietnam Vets. Basically, Vietnam War was a war where no one won, everyone lost and is the most apparent example to demonstrate that wars cause nothing but suffering.
@@artyom2801 shut up.
Why should he shut up? He's right
knowing how these boys suffered so much for their countries only to be ignored by them disgusts me. I'm just glad these movements were successful. I'll gladly stand and salute tomorrow.
Lest we forget.
*children
@@LuC-k777 oh shut up
It actually blows my mind that people would treat their veterans so horribly, and everyone thought it was ok
The problem with loyalty to a cause is that the cause will always betray you :(
I understand that feeling.
Lockdown 2014
Completely agree, thats a very profound and thoughtful comment, have experienced this in some speheares of life.
Isn't that a Doomsday(justice league) quote?
What's extra sad is that I had to explain what remembrance/armistice/veterans day is to a bunch of peolpe because they didnt know what it was
Lest we forget
Least we forget Many here in America just don't care, to them it is completely irrelevant, and considering how few of our young people are even eligible to serve it is a bit shocking.
@@robertharper3754 your point proven, I sent this onto a discord server and one of the members (majority of members are american) just sidelined this video I sent
@@sammybeaver9130, many have lost that connection to the military since so few serve, have family that serve or have friends that serve or have served. The closet most get to the military is watching hollywood's version of the military in tv shows and movies, they are seriously ill informed, if they knew how badly in shape our military is that might make some care.
@@robertharper3754 yeah
Its a sad day for all sides. But this generation doesn't understand and forgot war and this fake peace. They reject history and don't understand. Which for me hurts deeply
Sadly the British didn't learn from this as evidenced by how they treated the heroic Polish pilots who fought to defend Britain during the Battle of Britain. Arguably the greatest pilots of all the allied forces, after the war was won, they were sent back to Poland where many met their end at the hands of the Soviets (who were also British allies).
I agree
But weren't the Soviets and Brits only allies till after the war
@@lordferbus2970 The British Empire has no allies, only common interests.
@@leehongjin6884 same goes for the others
Because war crimes are OK when done by the allies
@@LTarts23 well
Done by the winners but ye
One day in NY, i saw a bunch of people making protest saying that there should be a WW1 memorials across the USA
I just so glad people still care about these men that risked their lives. Even if they are all dead by now ❤🇺🇸
We shouldn’t just thank them and forget. We must continue to support and respect veterans.
My great grand uncle served in ww1 in the American army. He got gased and his lungs were permanently damaged.
F. Im sorry for your loss
I don't know if I had any relatives that were around during that time that suffered injuries or other body damage
“Sixteen years old, when I went to the war
To fight for a land fit for heroes.
God on my side, and a gun in my hand, chasing the days down to zero.”
Veterans are never treated right. They have seen and experienced horrors that we could never imagine, and we hardly think of them. This comment goes out to every veteran, alive or dead, from any time in history, from any country ever. I hope they find respect and peace.
It was a huge stab in the back to those lads, I couldnt even imagine how hard life must have been for those soldiers. Thank you for your service.
No wonder there was no enthusiasm for the Second World War in the UK. Young men growing up seeing how badly their dad had been treated for being a soldier, seeing disabled vets starving on the streets, knowing they'd probably get the same treatment post-war. That's why Churchill was voted out.
Now we need a video about the Vietnam War Veterans and the challenges they faces after the war.
They had conscription from day one in WW2, after they'd seen their fathers betrayed few men volunteered again.
that explains why britain had a hard time gathering up men and raising morale...
The only two wars when the uk ever really used conscription before the army and navy was made of volunteers which is why the army was always so small. The ultimate reason why the uk had to use conscription was because it for the first time in nearly 100 years was fighting other major european powers and its small elite volunteer army wouldnt stand a chance
breaks your heart. Even today nothing has truly change either
I messed up my back in 2009 in Iraq and with a bunch of medical evidence, the VA says its not service related🤬. It hasn't change much from those days.🤕
:(
My god father was left sterile from the immunizations and experimental treatments he was given after his time out in those places, so he never had children and probably never will.
I hope you can find peace of mind.
@@gokibros4451 that sucks. I might be in the same boat. At 35 i haven't been able to have kids
@@laredotech I'm sterile from my time in Iraq as well I was a M2 gunner and I stood on top of that Duke system for 16+ hours a day and the radiation from it got to me I guess. I hope they get your situation figured out. Have you tried talking to a VA Advocate. It helped one of my friends I was deployed with get the ratings he deserved.
@@wutang80oc39 i red you can make embryo from blood sample these days so theres hope
@@TheJarric wouldn't that be kinda like cloning?
Both my grandfathers fought in WWI, one in Flanders and the other in the Dardanelles. Luckily they both made it home and were a great influence on me growing up. My fathers, father was an invalid with one lung but still worked as a coal miner. He was a proud man who would not take charity from anyone.
Funny how we say “thanks for serving” and yet we immediately don’t care about them
These guys deserved the best
I care about them actually.
They killed krauts like heroes and were disrespected sad
God bless these men for all they endured!
We should respect veterans. It's really sad to even know these things happened
My great grandpa loved to tell me a story about his life after the war. He went to one of those classes for learning new skills. His teacher himself was a battle hardened veteran who suffered a gas attack in flanders and had a wheezing cough in between every sentence. He seemed like such a cool guy from the stories, i wish I got to meet him.
They fought to protect and save their country yet they're treated so poorly. Shame
Says you. You don't allow your own citizens to leave
Kim Jong Un just said that.
😂😂
@@DuggzValentine he still has a point tho
@@DuggzValentine yes but they still “appreciate” their soldiers
Think the worst part about coming home, for me at least, is how much friends and family didn't even care that I went overseas, or that I came back. Even though nothing extraordinary happened over there, nothing was the same. I was struggling with trying to readapt to normal life, after months of being away. Gf was acting strange around me, which made everything worse, then left few months later.
“They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them.”
Laurence Binyon
This makes me think of how my grandfather would say how horrible it was to be making the bombs for Oak Ridge . I always asked him if there were secrets or anything he regretted when I was younger . And he always said that the government will eventually reveal all the disgusting secrets we hid from the public. And that if he ever told us anything we’d about what happened there while he worked on the bombs we’d be in danger. I truly felt sorry for that man he said he had no regrets because he fought for his country that was his duty and for him to live with the horror of making killing machine messed with him . I honor that man he sacrificed not only his life but his mind and heart for his country.
You captured the 1000 yard stare perfectly
My Grandfather told me years ago I had relatives in England who sheltered a WWI veteran they knew because he couldn't get a job who was always saying "The boys in the Second World War have no idea what we went through!" and the same with my Mothers Grandparents they gave WWI Australian vets jobs on their farm the blokes had lingering PTSD from the war!
Many in my family always maintained the WWI was psychologically and physically worse than WWII but I maintain that all War Veterans deserve our respect and thanks!
It reminds me of a poem called 'The Last of the Light Brigade' by Rudyard Kipling.
Read poem Tommy Atkins by kipling