If there were not whole video complications of him just sitting as other peoples videos play or walking away for long periods while other peoples videos play I might have some small bit of sympathy for him. However, he is just a pampered child who thinks he matters because the internet enabled him.
As a person who works in a warehouse as sanitation, the other workers 100% DO definitely look down on the sanitation crew. Not only do I have a first hand experience from my current job but I also worked as sanitation for Disney and Seaworld. You get treated differently and seen as lower not only by workers who aren’t sanitation but also the guests. ALSO it’s a common trope in movies and shows even to this day that janitorial or sanitation jobs are seen as lower. It doesn’t matter how much they make it’s about the respect aspects. You can make a ton of money but at the end of the day you are seen as lower (mostly subconsciously) by others.
Me personally, I wouldn’t care. If I’m making more money than you I can’t feel bad about myself because my position is “lower” than someone else’s. I always have the upper hand.
@@agentsbigassforeheadOh trust me I feel the same way. I don’t let it get to me at all but to my understanding, being in sanitation jobs is seen by others (usually) as lower. Whether that be subconsciously or not. I feel like it’s known between sanitation workers this mindset from others.
@@R34P3RGames Man, when I worked Amazon I was honestly envious of the janitors because they made $25 an hour and I made $16. Oh how I would’ve busted ASS if they paid me that well. Sad some people don’t have the same mindset.
Truth. I just recently left a job where I was cleaning a huge gym by myself for 10 an hour. It was three floors and on my shift I was responsible for cleaning every machine and room except for the women's locker room etc. My relationship with coworkers and most supervisors was fine because they were usually in the areas I worked on. The problem i had was doing all that work alone for 10 an hour and the few supervisors who would often complain about me missing certain things as I run around the building nonstop for hours.
The tax bracket thing is absolutely true. I've had to work overtime, which caused me to pay more in taxes and basically removed the time and a half overtime pay. You end barely making more than if you hadn't worked the overtime.
I don't believe that's how our tax system works. If I'm correct, you're only taxed at a higher rate on the portion that went over into the next tax bracket. I've heard this before though, so I'd love to hear your perspective/opinion!
@DiscoPvPMegaWalls maybe if you get paid weekly it doesn't, but bi-weekly it absolutely does. I've worked at the same company for 12 years and we have full time employees and Temps. Some of the full time and Temps make the same per hour, but the Temps get paid weekly and full time bi-weekly. The Temps actually make more after taxes than the full timers.
This very true, papa gut is wrong. The point is that when u earn more u end up in a different bracket. The percentage that they take is higher. Example 40 hours = $900 . If you work 60 hours = $1200 after deducting . He is saying that difference for 20 hour more of work is just $300 more because they took more in your taxes. So is not that u dint get more money its that is not worth it.
@@garyshaver1945disco is correct. on your stub the amount that gets taxed is based on an estimation of your tax bracket based on OT hour rates, but it is given back when you file your taxes to the rate that matches your tax bracket to match real income. when i did a lot of OT some years i would get 8k back due to them taking too much when it gets deducted per paystub.
What crazier is everyone making this arguement that streaming is harder could just retire. Asmongold, Hasan, and qtcinderalla all have enough money to retire and never work again. This aruguement make no sense cause they dont have to work. IF Hasan wanted he could just quit and go do charity for his causes behind the scenes but he won't cause he obsessed with being famous
Asmongold is so out of touch it’s insane. No one looks down on those difficult labor workers. They just personally don’t want to work those jobs because of their strenuous nature. If anything those workers get more respect for all they have to do.
not really if thats true u would have alot of guys in that field of profession. biggest problem is the education that we see now. i remember how my mother told me that i have to learn or i'll end up as an construction worker ... what happend i worked as an construction worker why because i like to work with my hands and build something. but these things are education that tells u all the time that u have to work in the office as an technician or engineer. and i see the problem with that now you have alot of this called educated people that are better left at the construction/machinig cause they are stupid af and do mistakes all the time because they are not made to think. respect maybe comes now after the world saw the we donmt have enough plumbers ;D
4:37 THANK YOU! I was thinking this throughout the whole Britney discussion and it was never brought up really. People aren’t mad that he’s just complaining (although it would still be stupid in most eyes because he literally watches like Master Chef and leaves for however long) they are mad at the fact he specifically said “Streaming is soul sucking unlike a normal job”. (His “context” he wants everyone to see) He’s comparing the two, proving he has absolutely no clue how to function a 9-5 “normal job”.
Not being funny but why would a normal person really need to know about that. Most people just pay their taxes and don’t think about exactly how it works, because it doesn’t affect their lives at all
Because too many people think that earning too much money will actually lose them more money to taxes than if they worked less. Hitting the next tax bracket will not result in less money earned @@mikeds22
I mean, everyone has a tax preparer of some kind. It's like being scared about people not knowing how to fix their washing machine. Oh sure, you should probably know, but you can and do hire a person to do that anyways.
As someone who was mainly doing RUclips between 2020 - 2022, I was forced to get a regular job so that I could take care of my wife after suffering a debilitating illness. I have now been working at UPS for a year and a half and I enjoy working. I think more content creators should normalize getting a regular job and treating RUclips as supplemental income. A normal 9-5 is clearly more soul draining, challenging and stressful than streaming by a long shot, for majority of people. I think if you go high enough in attention, the mental stress of being constantly criticized is much more difficult than a regular job but if you have mental toughness, this barrier is almost non-existent. What you will never be able to do is make as much money as these streamers, no matter how hard you work at that job and that alone is soul crushing and suicide inducing.
I wish I could ban or time out jerk customers at the grocery store. Working in the deli dealing with the food/ food safety side and also dealing with the rude customers is 100% more social battery draining than any stream.
When you work overtime you can be placed into a higher tax bracket (it said this at the bottom of what you searched) and I believe this is what preach meant by OT mathematics. The amount of money you worked for is withheld from you and you wont see it until refund time. (Apparently some don’t see their money from what I’ve heard) Effectively making it pointless if you live and or expect money on a monthly basis. The most important thing is being placed into the lowest part of the next tax bracket. Aba mentions that streamers don’t have that issue and get paid in an actual way that’s beneficial because they won’t just change tax brackets on a whim and having the luxury of choosing their own schedule (Aba mentions this) kinda supports his subsequent statements. TLDR: OT can push them into the lowest part of the next bracket and that money being held off sucks when you aren’t expecting it. Some people also just get fucked and can’t get the OT with circumventions from the employer or whatever.
I'm really concerned about Asmongold's state of mind. Not about siding with Hasan, I don't understand that, but I'm more taken by how he can live in filth like he does. Like that is usually the sign of depression when you can tune out stuff like that.
The only way I can see a worker trying to work overtime getting less money is if the boss is punishing them and not letting them work. I dealt with this from bosses who didn't want to pay overtime.
AAA studios also have it very hard because unless your the owner or ceo of the studio, or even a lead developer, you not gonna be paid super well. They still work very hard at the games they make whether good or bad.
With the overtime tax thing its true, i remember working a week where if i didnt work overtime i would have gotten around 1k give or take 100, after i worked overtime i was back down to 879 because i was taxed more compared to my other checks were I didn't work overtime, once you go over a certain amount they tax you more
i wasn't listening super closely to the tax yelling part, but a good comparison is a salaried worker that ends up working overtime. If i am salaried (exempt from overtime pay) making $52,000 a year, my hourly rate is $25/hr. but every single hour I work beyond the expected 40 hr workweek effectively reduces my pay rate. Now, working 50 hours per week, but still not eligible for overtime because i'm salaried, my hourly rate is now effectively $20/hr for the exact same work. but that's not about taxes n shizzz
The difference is no matter how hard I work no matter how many hours I put in my 9-5 will not buy me a 3mil house or a Porsche like get fuckin real man
You can bro but you got to loan the money and pay it back, while obviously having a stable job and maybe a wife too, for help with income for a mortgage ect. Most people don’t want a Sports car and a mansion when you become an adult you think more logical and less ‘pipe dreams’. Having a Porsche is cool and they not super expensive, but outside of the whole ‘oh look and my sick car what’s the point
"In sales" is what I'd call a job stocking shells at the local grocery store if I wanted to play it up, lol maybe I'm just a hasan hater, but I get those kinda vibes from his statement
"I had to delete twitter from my phone" womp womp hasan such a big sad risk of your work place. It's not like cashiers at shops have to fear getting robbed every day
Overtime is also never when you want it in my experience... I fucking hate overtime, it's always at the worst fucking days it feels like. If hummus or baldinggold stream more, it's their choise. It was and will never be imposed onto them. They have the turn off switch. So comparing streaming more to overtime is just a stunningly out of touch connection to make imo... But I guess that's the entire issue with whole situation
Hasans social battery does seem to drain very quickly and resorts to constant reaction content while at the same leave from his chair with the video playing to recharge. Hasans lack of an attention span seems to be his issue. By the time he reaches 40, his intellect would go down much farther down.
42:50 I think when we were really young we were told _You don't want to end up as a construction worker, etc._ , but I think it was more about having you not want to do manual labor than it being shameful to have those jobs.
Idc about Hasan's personal life. I hate the fact that this is what people are talking about instead of actually making the country a better place. Hasan endlessly talks about that. I disagree with him politically sometimes, but overall, he has his head in the correct place. Even if you disagree with his political takes, at least he actually is advocating for change.
Mr. Guttington said it best. He doesn’t want to engage in topics like that all the time cuz it burns him out. So lesser topics like this is more entertaining. Plus, you can advocate for change while playing around in petty drama. People can be multi-faceted.
Hasan's personal life contradict his political values. He should be creating mechanisms to benefit the poor, but instead he spends it on the most expensive outfits and cars money can buy. He complains to the working class that his job of sitting in a chair and watching videos is some of the hardest work you can do. Not only that, but he tells people they don't do research on a subject when his intel is Twitter posts. He complains about how violent republicans are, while supporting terrorist groups and advocating for the murder of people who don't share his political values. He's a trans ally that will shout and berate trans people if they disagree with him and supports Palestine, a 100% homophobic and transphobic country with misogynistic values to boot. Likewise, he's not advocating for change, he's feeding you emotional pornography and then cashing that in for a fancy suit he'll wear for a photo op while he travels abroad. You need to wake up. Actions speak louder than words. The wealth Hasan has is more than enough to be Left Wing Mr Beast, and his family carries so much wealth that he doesn't have a shortage of loans he could borrow if he really needed it. He chooses to only be a mouthpiece because he doesn't actually care about anything he talks about.
If there were not whole video complications of him just sitting as other peoples videos play or walking away for long periods while other peoples videos play I might have some small bit of sympathy for him. However, he is just a pampered child who thinks he matters because the internet enabled him.
As a person who works in a warehouse as sanitation, the other workers 100% DO definitely look down on the sanitation crew. Not only do I have a first hand experience from my current job but I also worked as sanitation for Disney and Seaworld. You get treated differently and seen as lower not only by workers who aren’t sanitation but also the guests. ALSO it’s a common trope in movies and shows even to this day that janitorial or sanitation jobs are seen as lower. It doesn’t matter how much they make it’s about the respect aspects. You can make a ton of money but at the end of the day you are seen as lower (mostly subconsciously) by others.
Me personally, I wouldn’t care. If I’m making more money than you I can’t feel bad about myself because my position is “lower” than someone else’s. I always have the upper hand.
@@agentsbigassforeheadOh trust me I feel the same way. I don’t let it get to me at all but to my understanding, being in sanitation jobs is seen by others (usually) as lower. Whether that be subconsciously or not. I feel like it’s known between sanitation workers this mindset from others.
@@R34P3RGames Man, when I worked Amazon I was honestly envious of the janitors because they made $25 an hour and I made $16. Oh how I would’ve busted ASS if they paid me that well. Sad some people don’t have the same mindset.
Truth. I just recently left a job where I was cleaning a huge gym by myself for 10 an hour. It was three floors and on my shift I was responsible for cleaning every machine and room except for the women's locker room etc. My relationship with coworkers and most supervisors was fine because they were usually in the areas I worked on. The problem i had was doing all that work alone for 10 an hour and the few supervisors who would often complain about me missing certain things as I run around the building nonstop for hours.
The tax bracket thing is absolutely true. I've had to work overtime, which caused me to pay more in taxes and basically removed the time and a half overtime pay. You end barely making more than if you hadn't worked the overtime.
I don't believe that's how our tax system works. If I'm correct, you're only taxed at a higher rate on the portion that went over into the next tax bracket. I've heard this before though, so I'd love to hear your perspective/opinion!
@DiscoPvPMegaWalls maybe if you get paid weekly it doesn't, but bi-weekly it absolutely does. I've worked at the same company for 12 years and we have full time employees and Temps. Some of the full time and Temps make the same per hour, but the Temps get paid weekly and full time bi-weekly. The Temps actually make more after taxes than the full timers.
This very true, papa gut is wrong. The point is that when u earn more u end up in a different bracket. The percentage that they take is higher. Example 40 hours = $900 . If you work 60 hours = $1200 after deducting . He is saying that difference for 20 hour more of work is just $300 more because they took more in your taxes. So is not that u dint get more money its that is not worth it.
@@garyshaver1945disco is correct. on your stub the amount that gets taxed is based on an estimation of your tax bracket based on OT hour rates, but it is given back when you file your taxes to the rate that matches your tax bracket to match real income. when i did a lot of OT some years i would get 8k back due to them taking too much when it gets deducted per paystub.
Yeah papa is wrong on this one
This mf literally did the “my streaming is harder then ur 9-5” but not as a joke is fucking wild
What crazier is everyone making this arguement that streaming is harder could just retire. Asmongold, Hasan, and qtcinderalla all have enough money to retire and never work again. This aruguement make no sense cause they dont have to work. IF Hasan wanted he could just quit and go do charity for his causes behind the scenes but he won't cause he obsessed with being famous
Asmongold is so out of touch it’s insane. No one looks down on those difficult labor workers. They just personally don’t want to work those jobs because of their strenuous nature. If anything those workers get more respect for all they have to do.
not really if thats true u would have alot of guys in that field of profession. biggest problem is the education that we see now. i remember how my mother told me that i have to learn or i'll end up as an construction worker ... what happend i worked as an construction worker why because i like to work with my hands and build something. but these things are education that tells u all the time that u have to work in the office as an technician or engineer. and i see the problem with that now you have alot of this called educated people that are better left at the construction/machinig cause they are stupid af and do mistakes all the time because they are not made to think. respect maybe comes now after the world saw the we donmt have enough plumbers ;D
Moral of the story don't blow your back out and increase your holes
4:37 THANK YOU! I was thinking this throughout the whole Britney discussion and it was never brought up really. People aren’t mad that he’s just complaining (although it would still be stupid in most eyes because he literally watches like Master Chef and leaves for however long) they are mad at the fact he specifically said “Streaming is soul sucking unlike a normal job”. (His “context” he wants everyone to see) He’s comparing the two, proving he has absolutely no clue how to function a 9-5 “normal job”.
Shit I'm terrified at how many people doesn't understand marginal taxes
Not being funny but why would a normal person really need to know about that. Most people just pay their taxes and don’t think about exactly how it works, because it doesn’t affect their lives at all
Because too many people think that earning too much money will actually lose them more money to taxes than if they worked less. Hitting the next tax bracket will not result in less money earned @@mikeds22
No you’re not. You just want to appear smart in these comment sections for some reason🤷♂️
I mean, everyone has a tax preparer of some kind. It's like being scared about people not knowing how to fix their washing machine.
Oh sure, you should probably know, but you can and do hire a person to do that anyways.
@@ChaosKnuxxxpeople, just look at the discourse any time tax legislation is going to be passed.
As someone who was mainly doing RUclips between 2020 - 2022, I was forced to get a regular job so that I could take care of my wife after suffering a debilitating illness. I have now been working at UPS for a year and a half and I enjoy working. I think more content creators should normalize getting a regular job and treating RUclips as supplemental income. A normal 9-5 is clearly more soul draining, challenging and stressful than streaming by a long shot, for majority of people. I think if you go high enough in attention, the mental stress of being constantly criticized is much more difficult than a regular job but if you have mental toughness, this barrier is almost non-existent. What you will never be able to do is make as much money as these streamers, no matter how hard you work at that job and that alone is soul crushing and suicide inducing.
how much does UPS pay you?
I wish I could ban or time out jerk customers at the grocery store. Working in the deli dealing with the food/ food safety side and also dealing with the rude customers is 100% more social battery draining than any stream.
great commentary as usual Papa!
When you work overtime you can be placed into a higher tax bracket (it said this at the bottom of what you searched) and I believe this is what preach meant by OT mathematics.
The amount of money you worked for is withheld from you and you wont see it until refund time. (Apparently some don’t see their money from what I’ve heard) Effectively making it pointless if you live and or expect money on a monthly basis. The most important thing is being placed into the lowest part of the next tax bracket. Aba mentions that streamers don’t have that issue and get paid in an actual way that’s beneficial because they won’t just change tax brackets on a whim and having the luxury of choosing their own schedule (Aba mentions this) kinda supports his subsequent statements.
TLDR: OT can push them into the lowest
part of the next bracket and that money being held off sucks when you aren’t expecting it.
Some people also just get fucked and can’t get the OT with circumventions from the employer or whatever.
I'm really concerned about Asmongold's state of mind. Not about siding with Hasan, I don't understand that, but I'm more taken by how he can live in filth like he does. Like that is usually the sign of depression when you can tune out stuff like that.
What is up Papa
Asmon used to work for the IRS, which is insane to think about
The only way I can see a worker trying to work overtime getting less money is if the boss is punishing them and not letting them work. I dealt with this from bosses who didn't want to pay overtime.
AAA studios also have it very hard because unless your the owner or ceo of the studio, or even a lead developer, you not gonna be paid super well. They still work very hard at the games they make whether good or bad.
Yeah and “Crunch time” practices that studios like BioWare are a big fan of are shit.
With the overtime tax thing its true, i remember working a week where if i didnt work overtime i would have gotten around 1k give or take 100, after i worked overtime i was back down to 879 because i was taxed more compared to my other checks were I didn't work overtime, once you go over a certain amount they tax you more
i wasn't listening super closely to the tax yelling part, but a good comparison is a salaried worker that ends up working overtime. If i am salaried (exempt from overtime pay) making $52,000 a year, my hourly rate is $25/hr. but every single hour I work beyond the expected 40 hr workweek effectively reduces my pay rate. Now, working 50 hours per week, but still not eligible for overtime because i'm salaried, my hourly rate is now effectively $20/hr for the exact same work. but that's not about taxes n shizzz
Why I refuse the salary position several times lol. You got us working 60 hrs lol
The difference is no matter how hard I work no matter how many hours I put in my 9-5 will not buy me a 3mil house or a Porsche like get fuckin real man
You can bro but you got to loan the money and pay it back, while obviously having a stable job and maybe a wife too, for help with income for a mortgage ect. Most people don’t want a Sports car and a mansion when you become an adult you think more logical and less ‘pipe dreams’. Having a Porsche is cool and they not super expensive, but outside of the whole ‘oh look and my sick car what’s the point
If Hasan didn’t complain CONSTANTLY maybe he would get a little sympathy. He just put out a video called Hasan debunking Destiny! I bet it’s hilarious
Correction it’s Noah debunking Destiny. I should have known he would never
"In sales" is what I'd call a job stocking shells at the local grocery store if I wanted to play it up, lol maybe I'm just a hasan hater, but I get those kinda vibes from his statement
In my experience it's mainly women from major cities that look down on sanitation and construction workers
I worked 84 hour work weeks for about a month straight and nothing seemed amiss for my taxes. Idk what Aba and Preach were on about
9:53 the bucket that broke the camel's back.
6:30 It's sad to see Ludwig bow down to QTs other boy toy that she's totally not playing with on the side.
Nah he is verifiably gay
I think asmogold thinks that ppl still think how they thought when he went outside
"I had to delete twitter from my phone" womp womp hasan such a big sad risk of your work place. It's not like cashiers at shops have to fear getting robbed every day
Rich multimillionairs complaining about thire hard lifes whats new 💀💀💀
and about the tax thing and it depends where you are living as well other countries has different tax systems so yeah.
"you can only bully people that aren't my friends" lol good thing i've decided we're now friends
Day two of inviting them out to shadow me at my mechanic job
Overtime is also never when you want it in my experience... I fucking hate overtime, it's always at the worst fucking days it feels like. If hummus or baldinggold stream more, it's their choise. It was and will never be imposed onto them. They have the turn off switch.
So comparing streaming more to overtime is just a stunningly out of touch connection to make imo... But I guess that's the entire issue with whole situation
More money makes you happier for a year or two
Hasans social battery does seem to drain very quickly and resorts to constant reaction content while at the same leave from his chair with the video playing to recharge. Hasans lack of an attention span seems to be his issue. By the time he reaches 40, his intellect would go down much farther down.
42:50 I think when we were really young we were told _You don't want to end up as a construction worker, etc._ , but I think it was more about having you not want to do manual labor than it being shameful to have those jobs.
32:28 tax bracket
Its Lasan and Lmongold time 🍿🍿🍿
Lemongold which is a tasty beer or a bad prank.
Damn ride harder
Maybe in Canada the overtime tax thing is different
Papa Gut knows more than those dumb Canadians don't you know that.
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Idc about Hasan's personal life. I hate the fact that this is what people are talking about instead of actually making the country a better place. Hasan endlessly talks about that. I disagree with him politically sometimes, but overall, he has his head in the correct place. Even if you disagree with his political takes, at least he actually is advocating for change.
Mr. Guttington said it best. He doesn’t want to engage in topics like that all the time cuz it burns him out. So lesser topics like this is more entertaining. Plus, you can advocate for change while playing around in petty drama. People can be multi-faceted.
Hasan's personal life contradict his political values. He should be creating mechanisms to benefit the poor, but instead he spends it on the most expensive outfits and cars money can buy. He complains to the working class that his job of sitting in a chair and watching videos is some of the hardest work you can do.
Not only that, but he tells people they don't do research on a subject when his intel is Twitter posts.
He complains about how violent republicans are, while supporting terrorist groups and advocating for the murder of people who don't share his political values.
He's a trans ally that will shout and berate trans people if they disagree with him and supports Palestine, a 100% homophobic and transphobic country with misogynistic values to boot.
Likewise, he's not advocating for change, he's feeding you emotional pornography and then cashing that in for a fancy suit he'll wear for a photo op while he travels abroad.
You need to wake up. Actions speak louder than words. The wealth Hasan has is more than enough to be Left Wing Mr Beast, and his family carries so much wealth that he doesn't have a shortage of loans he could borrow if he really needed it. He chooses to only be a mouthpiece because he doesn't actually care about anything he talks about.
Bruh, what change? He pushes consumerism and the status quo basically at all times to fuel his lifestyle.