THANK YOU for actually being good at damage testing. Ehroar made a video calling the new shotgun garbage because he cant damage test properly and used a kinetic slug as a comparison while forgetting the fact that karl is a major, NOT a boss.
Was is an unprofessional mistake? Yes it was but with that being said the 15% more damage from kinetic does not cancel the other points made in his video. You still need to stay still and make sure you hit both shots of the burst in order to do just a little bit more damage than a normal slug and also if you are doing only one weapon damage+manual reload on a damage phase you're gonna lack in damage. Nessa's Oblation was never used as a standalone weapon and it was only used in Slug swapping. It's like compairing Prospector which is a mag dump+manual reload to Anarchy which is used in swapping loadouts. Hence why, Llama's video is also flawed.
the main thing I'm thinking it could be neat for is proccing cascade point very very fast. not sure if that makes it worthwhile in a rotation though, especially when you could just use fourth horseman to do that instead
So its essentially the same as the rewind rounds + fourth times the charm roll on supremacy. Good total damage if you have a 5 minute damage phase, and not worth using compared to other weapons. Trench barrel is a bug and wont stick around, so i wouldnt even look at that. If you're using a slug for dps, double slugs will easily outdo this.
The thing is tho - with slugs, you practically never ever want to go for "shoot all 36 + fttc ammo at once", but rather "tractor slug/slug", which makes for Nessa's for much better option, since you don't need to maintain stacks on precision instrument and this one shoots slower than nessa's even if you got vorpal for it. Might be some "total very long precision close" good scenario but that's like 1 in a thousand. NOT worth IMHO. Nice review tho .-.
I expected a more realistic aproach from Llama and not the general fake "hype" movement of yt creators. Comparing this shotgun with Nessa's Oblation is quite wrong. It's like comparing Prospector with Anarchy. One is a mag dump+reload and the other is used ONLY in swapping loadouts. EDIT: Well at least the ending reactions were realistic
It might just be me but I find landing both shots of the burst on the crit spot on enemies with normal sized crit areas inconsistent. I'd rather use a recombination heritage or trench Barrel aggressive if I'm trying to burst a major. 4ttc with this thing in a dps scenario is cool though.
im so glad im not the only person here with this same issue. ive noticed this tbh with a lot of slug shotguns in the energy slot namely the RON shotgun "nessa's oblation" seems to have some utter garbage hit reg for crits yet sojourners tale (the new solar one) seems significantly more consistent and on the same level as heritage.
Is fotl still a buggy piece of shit? Been holding off on playing so my time isn't wasted on all the issues this event seems to be having. Wrong quests, wrong perk pools, invalid perks ...
He tested damage with Heritage on Carl whos not a boss so he still takes the extra 15% damage from being a Kinetic weapon. Compared to other elemental slugs it actually a fair bit more.
The 15% damage bonus does not save it, even if it does more dmg than a standalone normal slug you still lack damage in a proper rotation. Also good luck trying to stay still under a boss that blasts you into in the nerfed Well while also trying to hit both shots of the burst.
@@greekgodcomplex5449 You know, for him to say this that means he's already watched it. Also, he's not exactly wrong. The title is misleading, DPS wise it's not the new king of shotguns, its the jester of shotguns. The numbers shown here aren't exactly correct telling the whole story. He skipped over the reload issue. You see, the new shotgun takes twice as long to reload than a normal slug and 140 shotguns. This means it actually puts out less damage. You can fix this issue a bit with Dual loader perk but that would require you to remove FTC perk which hurts the DPS as well.
THANK YOU for actually being good at damage testing. Ehroar made a video calling the new shotgun garbage because he cant damage test properly and used a kinetic slug as a comparison while forgetting the fact that karl is a major, NOT a boss.
Lmfao so lazy
Doesn't change the fact its still kinda buns
Was is an unprofessional mistake? Yes it was but with that being said the 15% more damage from kinetic does not cancel the other points made in his video. You still need to stay still and make sure you hit both shots of the burst in order to do just a little bit more damage than a normal slug and also if you are doing only one weapon damage+manual reload on a damage phase you're gonna lack in damage. Nessa's Oblation was never used as a standalone weapon and it was only used in Slug swapping. It's like compairing Prospector which is a mag dump+manual reload to Anarchy which is used in swapping loadouts. Hence why, Llama's video is also flawed.
My pleasure!
the main thing I'm thinking it could be neat for is proccing cascade point very very fast. not sure if that makes it worthwhile in a rotation though, especially when you could just use fourth horseman to do that instead
It does open up for a top slot primary exotic so there is that.
I could definitey see it being used for cascade activation
Yeah instead if Nessa@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
I like this idea
So its essentially the same as the rewind rounds + fourth times the charm roll on supremacy.
Good total damage if you have a 5 minute damage phase, and not worth using compared to other weapons.
Trench barrel is a bug and wont stick around, so i wouldnt even look at that.
If you're using a slug for dps, double slugs will easily outdo this.
I can't aim, so I just use the trench roll.
Prepare for sadness when they fix it
@@tcritty2812 yeah, but I've got some good rolls on other arc shottys that I'm ok with like cascade, volt, vorpal etc.
not being able to hit Destiny 2 massive crit hitboxes is crazy
@@basedcringe9000I would say valorant has bigger hitboxes. Hitting shots in Val is easier than in d2
It's gonna get fixed goof 😂
The thing is tho - with slugs, you practically never ever want to go for "shoot all 36 + fttc ammo at once", but rather "tractor slug/slug", which makes for Nessa's for much better option, since you don't need to maintain stacks on precision instrument and this one shoots slower than nessa's even if you got vorpal for it. Might be some "total very long precision close" good scenario but that's like 1 in a thousand.
NOT worth IMHO.
Nice review tho .-.
The screams of sped up Templar are really on point with the Halloween theme.
true lmao
Can we consider this new double slug meta, if you know what I mean?
I expected a more realistic aproach from Llama and not the general fake "hype" movement of yt creators. Comparing this shotgun with Nessa's Oblation is quite wrong. It's like comparing Prospector with Anarchy. One is a mag dump+reload and the other is used ONLY in swapping loadouts.
EDIT: Well at least the ending reactions were realistic
I don't think I overhype it in any way, I chose Nessa's purely because it was the only other normal slug I had with FTTC + damage perk
There's no way they don't hit this thing with the doom practitioner nerf and make you shoot 6 burst
It's really fun to use on champs and mini bosses.
It might just be me but I find landing both shots of the burst on the crit spot on enemies with normal sized crit areas inconsistent. I'd rather use a recombination heritage or trench Barrel aggressive if I'm trying to burst a major. 4ttc with this thing in a dps scenario is cool though.
im so glad im not the only person here with this same issue. ive noticed this tbh with a lot of slug shotguns in the energy slot namely the RON shotgun "nessa's oblation" seems to have some utter garbage hit reg for crits yet sojourners tale (the new solar one) seems significantly more consistent and on the same level as heritage.
Unfortunately, Bungie keeps making bosses that don't let you get close enough.
It would be top-tier if it just wasn't so gosh dang dangerous to use.
Is fotl still a buggy piece of shit? Been holding off on playing so my time isn't wasted on all the issues this event seems to be having. Wrong quests, wrong perk pools, invalid perks ...
The perk pools are fine now as well as drops (focusing horror story gives you werewolf).
Youll still get the bugged curated trench barrel roll though.
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 awesome, ty for the reply!
its been 84 years since i started reloading
why is ehroar shitting on this weapon type?
He tested damage with Heritage on Carl whos not a boss so he still takes the extra 15% damage from being a Kinetic weapon.
Compared to other elemental slugs it actually a fair bit more.
Cuz Ehroar is stupid and doesn’t know how to damage test properly
The 15% damage bonus does not save it, even if it does more dmg than a standalone normal slug you still lack damage in a proper rotation. Also good luck trying to stay still under a boss that blasts you into in the nerfed Well while also trying to hit both shots of the burst.
If you ignore every other slug shotgun in the game, maybe
It's actually trash. Don't believe the hype.
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Classic clickbait, along with being a terrible vid 😂😂😂😂😢😮😅😢😮🎉😂😂🎉😂😂❤😂🎉😢
lol then don't watch
People who communicate with emojis are psychos
@@greekgodcomplex5449 You know, for him to say this that means he's already watched it. Also, he's not exactly wrong. The title is misleading, DPS wise it's not the new king of shotguns, its the jester of shotguns. The numbers shown here aren't exactly correct telling the whole story. He skipped over the reload issue. You see, the new shotgun takes twice as long to reload than a normal slug and 140 shotguns. This means it actually puts out less damage. You can fix this issue a bit with Dual loader perk but that would require you to remove FTC perk which hurts the DPS as well.