Yes, I'm four years late but... This is absolutely one of the best most informative videos/reviews I've seen in my RUclips life! Thank You so much for it!!
Ok - I am 63 and have used my 12' for or five times- I was out in a cove fishing and I put a rod in the back holder, then leaned over to get two more rods out and turned over. 1. I lost three rods- be very careful to keep rods not in your hand locked down. 2. I had opened the front hatch and did not latch it back down. So when I turned over, a lot of water got in the boat- be sure to lock down the hatch 3. My life jacket auto inflated, so I had to deflate it to get back in the boat. 4. Now I am across the lake, no real life jacket,with a lot of water in the boat ( making it unstable) . I had for the first time shortened my paddle to a half-paddle so my only real propulsion was the peddles. 5. As I started back across the lake, the wind came up so I was peddling with a strong side wind, the water in the boat made it unstable, and I turned over again. I was tired from recovering from the first turn over, so it was imposable for me to get back in the boat. I waved down a fellow fisherman and asked him to tow me in. It all worked out, but just be sure to be prepared to turn over at ANY time. This could have been a disaster, but I took my time and did not panic. Love the boat, but I have a healthy respect of what could happen. Maybe this will help some of you from making the same mistakes.
R. Michael Brown Your life jacket does no good in a storage hatch. Had you been wearing it you wouldn't have had the inflation problems. I spent 4 years in Marine Law Enforcement and was certified in water rescue. I have heard all the excuses about life jackets being for sissies or that people are good swimmers, etc. Well I have pulled more drowning victims out of the water than I care to. Most people underestimate their abilities in the water especially when you factor in stress and water temperature. I don't mean to lecture but take it from me, do yourself and your family a favor and wear your life jackets. They do save lives. Drowning is very preventable.
R. Michael Brown Thank you for your review. I am now convinced to purchase the side stabilizers, They run around $175-$200 and well worth it! I wear a $6,000 insulin pump. I would place it in a water proof container, but need to access it about once per hour. I am too old and weak to deal with turning over. I don't care what it looks like. I want to get out on the lake on my own without having to wait for someone else to want to go. This will give me the independence I need and help me build strength and stamina. I'm currently in year two of my cancer survivorship. Happy boating!
I love all the features on this kayak . The only thing that bothers me is the one of the white knobs (plastic?) on each side of the Mirage Drive broke in a utube video when kayak dealer did a comparative test on 3 different makes of peddle kayak. Pretty worrisome. Can something be done about this to reinforce the knobs?
EL SUEÑO DE MI VIDA HERMOSO POR DONDE SE LO MIRE LASTIMA QUE EN ARGENTINA TODO SALE MUY CARO ALGO IMPOSIBLE PARA UN OBRERO , FELICITACIONES , ES HERMOSO SU DISEÑO Y ACCESORIOS
Mike L - I had my life jacket on, but when I fell in the water it inflated. So, I had to deflate it to get back in the boat. I would never go out without a life jacket.
Nice review. Looks like a wide flat platform, I may have missed it but is it possible to stand and fish in this? I've got a bad back and can't sit for hours. Need to stand.
Great review... I used to have a 14" hobie mirage adventure and I loved it! I've being on many of the fishing spots in your videos, one thing that I never did was taking mine Adventure was taking it to the everglades (too many gators), I am always want to ask about how dangerous an alligator may be for a kayak??? Thanks Ruben
great video! Been wanting to get one but don't have the space to store and have a sedan so can't really carry it. Was looking to get an inflatable hobie though. What kind of kayak or boat did you upgrade to?
Can you use that kayak in salt water of shore! I don't know anything about kayaks I know about boats and fishing seems like you know a lot just looking for a little advice? I don't know how much yours was but I'm looking for something sturdy at a kind of cheap budget with Mirage Drive! Any idea I would really appreciate it also I love the video you made it tells a lot about the whole kayak! If you can help me thank you anyway and best of luck!
If you're on a budget I would find one of the less expensive hobie models. I would say most of their kayaks are very stable, but the pro angler is much stable than most of the other ones.
It's kind of ridiculous to spend $3,250.00 - $3,600.00-USD for this fishing solution for me personally. I can buy a welded 14' Jon-boat with trailer/spare tire, 15 - 20hp gas motor, tank/s trolling motor, battery/s paddles, lights, anchors, etc. in very good shape (75-80+ % new) for that price.
Get ur boat in the shallows 🤔..... Just being a jerk... Hahahaha, it's a dick measuring contest. Who can spend the most, to make someone who can't jealous. It's working btw. Shore fishing, Pier fishing, boat fishing, kayak, dynamite.... Just catch the damn things and post pics of hogs! Enjoy and be safe/smart
It's nice but I don't see $3k of kayak. I bought a seaghost 130 that has pretty much everything this one does and cost just under $1k. The biggest difference is the pedal drive and I'm not spending $2k for that.
I have a problem with my right turn. It does not respond fast compare to the left turn. I have adjusted the tension on the ruddle boa but it does not solve the problem. Do you or anyone have any clue? Thanks
Hello there. Looks like a really practical boat. Quick question: when you go to the bow (before the Mirage drive is fitted) what stops the water coming in that large hole? Sorry if this is a silly question, but I could see that hole is almost at the lowest part of the hull. TIA, KL
What do one of these cost I want one so bad but on Craigslist people are asking 4,000 plus I haven't done research but I'm almost sure that's what they cost new
Do you have any issues with the Hobie kayak taking on water inside the body or hull of the kayak? Every kayak I have ever owned took on water and I had to dump it out through the drain hole.
that's so sick.. i was paddling against the current and wind today. one of the most physical demanding thing ive done in a while. how does this do against current and wind?
Soflofishing Damn. I just checked out that Gheenoe Classic...nice. You're set now. I'm between a Pro Angler 12 and a KC K12. I need maximum storage space and will be fishing/crabbing in some shallow tidal saltwater bays. Would you avoid the Pro Angler b/c the mirage drive in the shallows? I also like the deck space in the K12 for crab traps, baskets, coolers, etc. It's almost like a mini boat that you have to paddle. Then again, when you take off flying at 6:58 in the Pro Angler...and hands free fishing. Anyway, let me know what you think since you owned a Pro Angler.
+bbcasting If by shallow you mean 1 F.O.W. or less, the mirage drive will be useless, but don't forget you can move them till they're almost flat tucked up to the bottom of the boat,. From there you can barely move the pedals to keep them fluttering but away from the bottom. Worst case, you always have a paddle on board as well so if it's that bad, you can pull it out. But if it's 2 or 3 feet deep, you're good to go.
One of the most akward ways to paddle I have ever seen when I tested it at the sports store I asked the guy there why didnt they used a circular motion to pedal? And Shallow water will kill the flaps on the sand and rocks of you forget to put them up. Your legs will hurt like hell after using this thing for a half hour and not even continuous. This system is great but they need to redesign the pedaling system as the non circulation way of peddaling is very akward to pedal and my idea for my inflatable kayak was my own home made system of a hand pedaller that has handles that sit on a circular track with bearings , these handles are attached to external paddles that go on each side of the kayak, thus allows me to turn while paddling with my arms nonstop and the rudder is foot controlled with a rod running on the kayak with a cable. You have to think of this as simple as possible. My idea is a small setup that collapses into a small bag which you take unto the kayak an deploy on the water all you do is open it and set it on the kayak and then extend the hinged flaps that go on the sides of the kayak . I got this idea from Tom Sawyer and the Mississippi Paddle steamer, a little different though. The best way to paddle is like it has been for thousands of years TO THE SIDES, just like all fish and all sea animals swim. Like I said the paddle system for me is easier, it sits on top of the water so does not break or get damaged underneath. Total cost of my simple system was $50 for parts and some old bike parts.
If anyone is still in these comments lol and knows and can tell me, I am thinking about buying a hobie cat and I was wondering he said u could use it as just a like hand paddle kayak and no marage drive what would u do with the huge hole in the floor? Does it come with a like plug in cause u don't want to use it?
Ty Larimer the hole won't do anything. All kayaks have holes in them anyways to let the water that comes in out. With this specific kayak, it's hard to paddle anyways. So unless you're planning on getting a smaller one, paddling in this kayak is very difficult.
Soflofishing thanks for replying I am really thinking about getting this exact kayak once I save enough money, I really like it I would use the mirage paddles always, but the only reason I was thinking about not using them is in like shallow water. Should I just like lay the mirage paddle between my legs and manually paddle till get in deeper water?
Ty Larimer yea, depending how shallow you're thinking of going. I had a push pole to push through the flats. Like I said paddling for me was always just to turn and stuff like that. Not to move much. I was able to peddle through some flats though, doing half peddles. But like I said it depends how shallow it was. You can take the mirage drive out or put them in position where the fins lay flat on the hull, so you wouldn't have to even take them out.
It's just like a car, you get what you pay for. Difference between getting a Toyota vs a Lexus. They will get you to the same place, just one has more bells and whistles than the other.
Yes, I'm four years late but... This is absolutely one of the best most informative videos/reviews I've seen in my RUclips life! Thank You so much for it!!
Ok - I am 63 and have used my 12' for or five times- I was out in a cove fishing and I put a rod in the back holder, then leaned over to get two more rods out and turned over. 1. I lost three rods- be very careful to keep rods not in your hand locked down. 2. I had opened the front hatch and did not latch it back down. So when I turned over, a lot of water got in the boat- be sure to lock down the hatch 3. My life jacket auto inflated, so I had to deflate it to get back in the boat. 4. Now I am across the lake, no real life jacket,with a lot of water in the boat ( making it unstable) . I had for the first time shortened my paddle to a half-paddle so my only real propulsion was the peddles. 5. As I started back across the lake, the wind came up so I was peddling with a strong side wind, the water in the boat made it unstable, and I turned over again. I was tired from recovering from the first turn over, so it was imposable for me to get back in the boat. I waved down a fellow fisherman and asked him to tow me in. It all worked out, but just be sure to be prepared to turn over at ANY time. This could have been a disaster, but I took my time and did not panic. Love the boat, but I have a healthy respect of what could happen. Maybe this will help some of you from making the same mistakes.
R. Michael Brown Your life jacket does no good in a storage hatch. Had you been wearing it you wouldn't have had the inflation problems. I spent 4 years in Marine Law Enforcement and was certified in water rescue. I have heard all the excuses about life jackets being for sissies or that people are good swimmers, etc. Well I have pulled more drowning victims out of the water than I care to. Most people underestimate their abilities in the water especially when you factor in stress and water temperature. I don't mean to lecture but take it from me, do yourself and your family a favor and wear your life jackets. They do save lives. Drowning is very preventable.
R. Michael Brown Thank you for your review. I am now convinced to purchase the side stabilizers, They run around $175-$200 and well worth it! I wear a $6,000 insulin pump. I would place it in a water proof container, but need to access it about once per hour. I am too old and weak to deal with turning over. I don't care what it looks like. I want to get out on the lake on my own without having to wait for someone else to want to go. This will give me the independence I need and help me build strength and stamina. I'm currently in year two of my cancer survivorship. Happy boating!
Mike L I lost a friend I the 1980's who didn't use a lifejacket, so I totally agree. You should go out fully equipped as kitted or not at all.
Jo Ann Gabriele dude the r the cheapest and easiest thing to make yourself :) I have them on mine, and I made the,
R. Michael Brown do you still use it and if you don't would you sell it? I have been wanting to buy a kayak for fishing but don't have the best budget
That was the best Hobie review I've seen so far. Very well done. You really show what this model is capable of.
Thank you very much.
Thanks for taking the time to do this demo.
It was more informative than anything out there from Hobie or anybody else!
thank you!
I'm amazed at how well the mirage drive works
Yeah! You can move at a pretty good pace.
Excellent video. Looking to buy my first kayak so I appreciate you demonstrating the different features and ease of transporting.
Even though you already sold it I enjoyed the video. Excellent review. One of the best.
easily the best demo video Ive seen thus far
thanks for the review. I just picked up a PA 14 and I'm taking it out for its maiden voyage
Nicely done. Do you know if the new 360 Mirage Drive fits ALL the Hobie kayaks?
That looks like fun. How is it long term? I am pondering getting one, but there are so many choices to choose from. Will in work in the ocean too?
Probably the best build quality kayaks for the money
I love all the features on this kayak . The only thing that bothers me is the one of the white knobs (plastic?) on each side of the Mirage Drive broke in a utube video when kayak dealer did a comparative test on 3 different makes of peddle kayak. Pretty worrisome. Can something be done about this to reinforce the knobs?
EL SUEÑO DE MI VIDA HERMOSO POR DONDE SE LO MIRE LASTIMA QUE EN ARGENTINA TODO SALE MUY CARO ALGO IMPOSIBLE PARA UN OBRERO , FELICITACIONES , ES HERMOSO SU DISEÑO Y ACCESORIOS
I want it ,just wish they would make more affordable.Thats why people are choosing the Native Propel over the Hobie.
"Hey, hey, hey...there's a wake zone here!"
"Slow down!!"
Mike L - I had my life jacket on, but when I fell in the water it inflated. So, I had to deflate it to get back in the boat. I would never go out without a life jacket.
Looks good, I just can't get over the fact he reminds me of dale from step brothers trying to sell us on his band.
Nice kayak, I'm 65, first time buying a kayak, how much you asking? How old is it?
I need this in my life!
Very nice demo. I am looking at getting one now.
Nice review. Looks like a wide flat platform, I may have missed it but is it possible to stand and fish in this? I've got a bad back and can't sit for hours. Need to stand.
Yes you can stand and fish this. That's basically all I did unless I was moving from place to place.
Great review... I used to have a 14" hobie mirage adventure and I loved it! I've being on many of the fishing spots in your videos, one thing that I never did was taking mine Adventure was taking it to the everglades (too many gators), I am always want to ask about how dangerous an alligator may be for a kayak??? Thanks Ruben
As long as you keep your distance you'll be ok.
great video! Been wanting to get one but don't have the space to store and have a sedan so can't really carry it. Was looking to get an inflatable hobie though. What kind of kayak or boat did you upgrade to?
I got a gheenoe with a 25hp Yamaha on it
Can you use that kayak in salt water of shore! I don't know anything about kayaks I know about boats and fishing seems like you know a lot just looking for a little advice? I don't know how much yours was but I'm looking for something sturdy at a kind of cheap budget with Mirage Drive! Any idea I would really appreciate it also I love the video you made it tells a lot about the whole kayak! If you can help me thank you anyway and best of luck!
If you're on a budget I would find one of the less expensive hobie models. I would say most of their kayaks are very stable, but the pro angler is much stable than most of the other ones.
What year is this?
This IS THE BEST REVIEW I HAVE SEEN. Nice Job
Especially after just watching over a dozen reviews.
A really good demo video. Thanks.
Thanks
SOLD
+Soflofishing how much?
+JAmes Gumb 3000$ us
Muito legal este novo motor elétrico e pedais show
That is the perfect kayak! Wow!
Nice video, really useful if you are looking into getting a fishing kayak
Great demo buddy, thanks a bunch!
6:11 if u kayak spin in water, do u lose that wheels? Or is there any protection to do not? Magnets or something
It's kind of ridiculous to spend $3,250.00 - $3,600.00-USD for this fishing solution for me personally. I can buy a welded 14' Jon-boat with trailer/spare tire, 15 - 20hp gas motor, tank/s trolling motor, battery/s paddles, lights, anchors, etc. in very good shape (75-80+ % new) for that price.
Con U$$3,600 en Argentina te compras una lancha de 4 metros con motor fuera de borda 😂
Okay but you're talking about a boat, this video is about a kayak.
Get ur boat in the shallows 🤔..... Just being a jerk... Hahahaha, it's a dick measuring contest. Who can spend the most, to make someone who can't jealous. It's working btw. Shore fishing, Pier fishing, boat fishing, kayak, dynamite.... Just catch the damn things and post pics of hogs! Enjoy and be safe/smart
U should make demo for kayak companys i been watching videos and urs is the best. Thanks for the inf.
Ha thank you
Very Cool my friend definitely got me wanting one im a fisherman myself
excellent demonstration thank you
Thank you
Excellent demo!
Thanks!
Thanks jerk, now I want to buy one. Great review!!
Do it!
macdud85 yeah it’s only 3800
It's nice but I don't see $3k of kayak. I bought a seaghost 130 that has pretty much everything this one does and cost just under $1k. The biggest difference is the pedal drive and I'm not spending $2k for that.
It is much faster though.
This is like a Rolls Royce of kayaks ofc its ganna be expensive
Shane Haney its not the same, go try one, they are high, but worth every penny, great in awful conditions
I won't lie, this is definitely me when I'm showing a kayak
Thanks for the great review 👍
Great video very informative thanks a bunch
Holy crap that thing is fast!
Nice kayak awesome video 😁
I have a problem with my right turn. It does not respond fast compare to the left turn. I have adjusted the tension on the ruddle boa but it does not solve the problem. Do you or anyone have any clue? Thanks
Sorry brother. How I can buy it... Iam interesting about that..
You did a great review bro!
oie amigo q precio tiene ese kayak esta precioso vivo en méxico. gracias
Great video! Thanks!
High, it is a really quick boat. I am surprised about the speed. Kindly Fiete
great demo
thanks
Uma pena um produto dessa qualidade não está a venda no Brasil.
Year and asking price if your selling the PA12?
Rough location?
Great review thanks
If you put the wheels through the front scupper holes and move it around from the back it's a hell of a lot easier, Try it dude.
Too late, I sold it. I'm sure it would've been good though.
Man, I would love to have a hobie! We fish central florida in a tandem paddle yak
excellent review!
I don't fish,, but what a boat could be used for wildlife photography and snorkaling off :)
Yes it can. I was using it at Everglades national park. There are many canoe trails that this can be used in.
do you think that Freecamp allure is better than this?
I need one. My canoe is a nightmare to fish in
Hello there. Looks like a really practical boat. Quick question: when you go to the bow (before the Mirage drive is fitted) what stops the water coming in that large hole? Sorry if this is a silly question, but I could see that hole is almost at the lowest part of the hull. TIA, KL
It's a sit-on-top, so think of that hole as a really big scupper
Got it; thanks!
What do one of these cost I want one so bad but on Craigslist people are asking 4,000 plus I haven't done research but I'm almost sure that's what they cost new
Well on the hobie website they're around that
Do you have any issues with the Hobie kayak taking on water inside the body or hull of the kayak? Every kayak I have ever owned took on water and I had to dump it out through the drain hole.
I've never had that issue.
diet
How do you keep from damaging or dragging your transducer when porting/putting in/taking out?
There is a cover over the transducer that protects it. It doesn't interfere with the fish finder.
Are there gators in that canal?
Great illustration! Hobie is too expensive though. Still a great kayak.
That looks comfy
cool . is this kajak good for sea ?
Nice review!
Why not create an electric motor to turn the pedals?
awesome review! You should be a rep!
Haha thanks!
I'd buy a pedal Pescadore first. They're less expensive and work just as well.
Bela e pratica embarcação, beleza!
great for fishing, greetings success 👍
Water-tight storage ? (for photo lenses : $$$$)
that's so sick.. i was paddling against the current and wind today. one of the most physical demanding thing ive done in a while. how does this do against current and wind?
it does well. the peddling get a little tougher but definitely better than paddling.
Soflofishing paddling is actually alot easier on the body than the legs, research :)
+Tracey Scherer Paddling is to Mirage drive as horse/buggy is to 600 hp twin turbo V8
I'm hoping to get the loan from the bank then maybe I'll get one or maybe a BASS boat not sure Yet
Why did you want something bigger though? Different kayak or an actual boat?
Pro Angler 14?
I upgraded to a gheenoe classic with a 25hp motor.
Soflofishing Damn. I just checked out that Gheenoe Classic...nice. You're set now.
I'm between a Pro Angler 12 and a KC K12. I need maximum storage space and will be fishing/crabbing in some shallow tidal saltwater bays. Would you avoid the Pro Angler b/c the mirage drive in the shallows? I also like the deck space in the K12 for crab traps, baskets, coolers, etc. It's almost like a mini boat that you have to paddle.
Then again, when you take off flying at 6:58 in the Pro Angler...and hands free fishing. Anyway, let me know what you think since you owned a Pro Angler.
+bbcasting If by shallow you mean 1 F.O.W. or less, the mirage drive will be useless, but don't forget you can move them till they're almost flat tucked up to the bottom of the boat,. From there you can barely move the pedals to keep them fluttering but away from the bottom. Worst case, you always have a paddle on board as well so if it's that bad, you can pull it out.
But if it's 2 or 3 feet deep, you're good to go.
dobry kayak ..ciekawa prezentacja :))
Anybody no the major differences between revo ,outback & angler ?
does it come with anti-shark turret?
When you purchased it...cost?
How much are you Asking for Your hobie
One of the most akward ways to paddle I have ever seen when I tested it at the sports store I asked the guy there why didnt they used a circular motion to pedal? And Shallow water will kill the flaps on the sand and rocks of you forget to put them up.
Your legs will hurt like hell after using this thing for a half hour and not even continuous. This system is great but they need to redesign the pedaling system as the non circulation way of peddaling is very akward to pedal and my idea for my inflatable kayak was my own home made system of a hand pedaller that has handles that sit on a circular track with bearings , these handles are attached to external paddles that go on each side of the kayak, thus allows me to turn while paddling with my arms nonstop and the rudder is foot controlled with a rod running on the kayak with a cable. You have to think of this as simple as possible. My idea is a small setup that collapses into a small bag which you take unto the kayak an deploy on the water all you do is open it and set it on the kayak and then extend the hinged flaps that go on the sides of the kayak . I got this idea from Tom Sawyer and the Mississippi Paddle steamer, a little different though. The best way to paddle is like it has been for thousands of years TO THE SIDES, just like all fish and all sea animals swim. Like I said the paddle system for me is easier, it sits on top of the water so does not break or get damaged underneath. Total cost of my simple system was $50 for parts and some old bike parts.
Danfuerth Gillis Your legs may hurt like hell at first yes but not after you have been doing it while and you legs get into condition.
Danfuerth Gillis make a video im now interested in what it looks like and how fast you use it? please
Danfuerth Gillis i have a small boat i would like to build one of your gizmos for; could you post a picture or diagram please?
How much does this kayak weigh?
Highly high center of gravity-it without waves is already inclined to overturn
Hey man I was wondering by where do you fish by. I live in miramar
pembroke pines. in the lakes by spring valley. i got to flamingo to fish saltwater.
we should fish together one of these days
Hi,how does it work on the sea?What s the price?
Works fine as long as you're not trying to go against the tide or wind.
No compartment for fish?
Did you buy another kayak? Whaja get?
I bought a Gheenoe classic. You can see my video when I tested it for the first time on my channel.
If anyone is still in these comments lol and knows and can tell me, I am thinking about buying a hobie cat and I was wondering he said u could use it as just a like hand paddle kayak and no marage drive what would u do with the huge hole in the floor? Does it come with a like plug in cause u don't want to use it?
Ty Larimer the hole won't do anything. All kayaks have holes in them anyways to let the water that comes in out. With this specific kayak, it's hard to paddle anyways. So unless you're planning on getting a smaller one, paddling in this kayak is very difficult.
Soflofishing thanks for replying I am really thinking about getting this exact kayak once I save enough money, I really like it I would use the mirage paddles always, but the only reason I was thinking about not using them is in like shallow water. Should I just like lay the mirage paddle between my legs and manually paddle till get in deeper water?
Ty Larimer yea, depending how shallow you're thinking of going. I had a push pole to push through the flats. Like I said paddling for me was always just to turn and stuff like that. Not to move much. I was able to peddle through some flats though, doing half peddles. But like I said it depends how shallow it was. You can take the mirage drive out or put them in position where the fins lay flat on the hull, so you wouldn't have to even take them out.
On this "boat" if you catch a big fish, I think will be the fish cathing us😁
Nice kayak.
These things are $4500 new in Australia, are they worth it?
thesteveus mate I just bought a used pro angler 12 from sunstate Hobie for 2500$ worth having a check and they are worth it
That is a good price, will keep them in mind.
Jeezus that thing is fast! Take off from the police! it takes 45 minutes to use a 4 person duck peddle boat thing to get in the middle of the lake!
Interesting and Creativ
Are you at Lehigh acres
hobies are nice if they weren't priced twice as much as they should be it might be worth buying one
It's just like a car, you get what you pay for. Difference between getting a Toyota vs a Lexus. They will get you to the same place, just one has more bells and whistles than the other.
Soflofishing I'm not trying to be a smart-ass but Lexus is made by Toyota
UUgh..one of these is for sale near me practically new for $3300 :/