Carly Simon reveals inspiration in song "You're So Vain" ...sort of (19 Nov 15)
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2015
- You're so vain, Warren Beatty, you probably think this story's about you.
And you would be partially correct. (Read more below)
In anticipation of her upcoming memoir, "Boys in the Trees," singer Carly Simon talked to People about her iconic 1972 song "You're So Vain" and the fact that part of it is about actor Beatty, a former love of Simon's.
"I have confirmed that the second verse is Warren," Simon said.
The second verse includes the lines:
"You had me several years ago when I was still quite naive
Well you said that we made such a pretty pair
And that you would never leave
But you gave away the things you loved and one of them was me
I had some dreams, they were clouds in my coffee
Clouds in my coffee"
The 70-year-old singer has previously said that the song isn't about Beatty and then said it's a little about him. She and Beatty dated briefly in the early 1970s, and she told People that "Warren thinks the whole thing is about him!"
For more than four decades, fans have wondered about the inspiration for the tune, and she's even given clues before. Simon said some of the other verses refer to two other men whom she declined to name. 
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LOL! Who woulda' thunk both Pres. Donald J. Trump (or Chl created on 8 Nov 16) and Warren Beatty (who created his Chl on 21 Feb 20) would have responded to this video! See comments (some buried) below...
I family got my answer about your so vain
Looks like Warren Beatty DELETED his comments below...
Someone left this comment, but it disappeared: "HINT : K.K. Kris Kristophersen"
You don't suppose Carly Simon slept with Donald Trump. That's like watching Jabba the Hutt trying to lick Princess Leia.
Sounds more like JFK to be honest. 🤔
As always a really beautiful gifted voice for all time.. GLAD I grew up with her music around me !! have an album or two of hers and CD ! Even when she talks, you can hear each word as a song in her voice
*THIS SONG IS STILL GREAT !!! THANKS, CARLY ... AND YOUR MEN.*
I guessed long ago that it was Warren Beatty, so it is cool to have that hunch verified. He just literally personifies vanity. I always pictured him in my mind when I heard the song.
Kana, when I grow up I wanna be Warren Beatty. And I'm 65.😃
@@kennethrussell1158 weirdo...
The funny thing about Mick Jagger being considered as a subject is that he actually sang backup on the recording.
Mick Jagger is the person who convinced to sing it because she was hesitant. He sang background in the track as support.
If that's true, what a lovely morsel of information. Ty.
WHATEVER you will never know. Lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I thought it was the Bee Gees
🤔…..yup, Jagger can be heard easily on this recording. ✔️
finally. that puts my mind at ease. i have been up nights pacing the floor worrying about this for many years
Lol
It was 1972....i was 12 years old
The protagonist is......"dont listen to what people say"...advice by carly...
@@vembayanselvaraju8371 And I had just started high school. It's very strange to think back to those days without RUclips and other social sites when we'd get into semi-serious conversations about songs like Carly Simon's "You're So Vain" without any background on her in particular, but we did. I remember everyone in my clique having a different idea as to the person she's singing about. I mean I can remember it like it was just 50 years ago today!
My thoughts exactly... who gives a shit???
Carly your Timeless so Beautiful and what a lady!
Warren Beatty is the only guy that fits the Complete description of her song. Beatty did take his Live-in to see the total eclipse of the sun. Beatty was likely to be found with his best friends wife. Warren was very vain. No one else fits the description she sings about.
@@marijakrstin902 ask carly simon, it is her song lyrics, i have no idea.
For years Mick Jagger was one I thought of then I find he sang back up to it I was like WT 😳
@@crystalregan2481 Mick Jagger just happened to be in the same studio and sang back up. He was not paid or credited in any way with his voluntary singing., Great Song
only about every man she dated fits the description really. she had a habit of chasing famous and unkeepable men. the problem lies in both parties
Nobody "KNOWN".....that is.....🫤
She is a lovely lady and the song is my favourite of all time.
I seem to remember people knowing it was Warren Beatty years ago. Like the mid 90's. Obviously it was the guy with the Lear jet who went to Nova Scotia for the Eclipse and Warren has family there.
I remember hearing, in the 70’s, it was about Warren Beatty.
Whoever it was intended to ...I just luv the song
Abdul Latib Tokimin luv????
No destruyas el inglés
So do I
I was a toddler when that song came out. In mid 70s they play it again which I heard it on 📻. This song came on my mind couple of days ago because I was in love a guy.
Well there a line in there about going to Saratoga and the race track well it was a well known fact that David Cassidy liked to go there so it could be about him. I think she wrote that song about many men she dated over the years as her trib to them. It makes the song much more interesting to speculate who she is singing about when she keeps quiet about that and keeps her fans guessing.
Its All About Warren Beatty,,, He Was in Nova Scotia for the Total Eclipse of the Sun in 1970,,,, His Mother is From Nova Scotia and
it really was
First, I love the song. Next, I didn't know Carly dated Warren Beatty. In the seventies I was only worried about the vain men in my life. They are everywhere!
honestly they are the only ones that get attention. nice guys finish last. they get a shot when those tired women are post 40. which isn't the worst thing in life, but it's hardly the best.
if women stopped paying attention to vain men, they'd have nothing to complain about and those men would be significantly less vain would they?
We were all driving somewhere and my then 10-year-old daughter Kelsey was in the front seat, when this song came on. As the verse was playing, I told her Ms. Simon was singing about ME. Kelsey reacted the way a daughter typically might, "Aw come on Dad!!" to which I persisted, "No REALLY!" Her reaction was priceless when the chorus came up.
I always thought this song was about me
.
You're so vain.
hahahahahahah @Paule G...you are cute!
@@patmc2916 lol thank you 😊
TOM - DID U BUMP YER HEAD GETTIN' OUTTA BED THIS AM?
Yes I always thought Warren Beatty, l was standing outside of Rainbow bar an grill...it's next to the trubidoor, I heard all this screaming an it was Warren Beatty. He was loving the attention.
You know I never thought this was about a specific person. I thought she just made it up. But
now we know and the second verse is the most personal and hurtful. I heard that she said that the very first line she heard someone say it and she put it in a song. But the third verse, Warren Beatty's mother lives in Nova Scotia. And he did go to the eclipse there in in 1972. And he at one time own horses. I wouldn't be surprised if he did think this song was about him.
Didn’t we all know it was about Warren Beatty?
Well, Carly has said numerous times the song is not JUST about Warren, but an amalgam of different guys.
I guess it would've been more interesting if she just said the song is about Beatty.
But then she doesn't want him to get a big head about it.
I think secretly any concert goer of Carly's just wants to hear this one song bc it's so closely identified with her and her BIG SECRET !
Carly has left the answer to this puzzle with a friend who will do the Big Reveal once she's gone.
No, seriously !
Kathlyn MacLean was a teacher from Nova Scotia. Maclean was Warren Beatty's mother.
[Lyrics: You're So Vain]
You walked into the party like you were walking onto a yacht
Your hat strategically dipped below one eye
Your scarf it was apricot
You had one eye in the mirror as you watched yourself gavotte
And all the girls dreamed that they'd be your partner
They'd be your partner, and...
You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? don't you?
You had me several years ago when I was still quite naive
Well you said that we made such a pretty pair
And that you would never leave
But you gave away the things you loved and one of them was me
I had some dreams, they were clouds in my coffee
Clouds in my coffee, and...
You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? don't you? don't you?
I had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee
Clouds in my coffee, and...
You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? don't you?
Well I hear you went up to Saratoga and your horse naturally won
Then you flew your Lear Jet up to Nova Scotia
To see the total eclipse of the sun
Well you're where you should be all the time
And when you're not you're with
Some underworld spy or the wife of a close friend
Wife of a close friend, and...
You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? don't you? don't you?
And my scarf it was Apricot!!!
Amoooooooo!!!
The song is about several of her loves, not just one
Probably...including the back-up singer lol
That's an open mystery since I heard it probably in the 70s that it was about WB. She just confirmed what some of us knew (no, I'm not in the in crowd and I don't know where I heard it).
I had heard, back in the 70’s, it was about Beatty, too. I was just a kid, so it couldn’t have been too much of a mystery. However, I just found out it’s about some others, as well.
I was in a pop band for a long time. Somehow, I knew this fact 40 YEARS AGO. Until I happened across this news article, I thought it was common knowledge! Silly me. I haven't thought of this for, ...40 years.
Alas, I was never too concerned with such stuff, and learned a long time ago to NEVER explain my song lyrics to the audience! This always backfires. I learned to allow the audience to take what they will from a song. To explain a song only limits audience perception. Usually, the audience finds things about my lyric that are far more poignant and universally relevant than I knew when I wrote the lyric! I.e., if I keep my big mouth shut, I will have wrote a far better lyric than I previously thought!
E.g., My favourite Dylan song was once, "Ballad Of A Thin Man" ,... until some jerk (who was, unfortunately, reliable) told me that it was about an oblivious, stoned/drunk, BRIAN JONES at a party that I had attended. This thoroughly ruined the song for me. I instantly knew that it was true. This knowledge severely limited the range I had applied to the song, -and, thus, my appreciation for the lyric. I rarely listened to the tune again. The former enjoyment was gone.
As a songwriter who greatly appreciates a good lyric this has always made me cross. I suppose "Highway 61" is now my favourite Dylan lyric. -Just like everyone else.
During this party, Brian was soused, stumbling, slurring his speech, -not full control of himself. I think this was after being sacked from his own band (Brian started The Rolling Stones and was supposedly the leader). He was being laughed at, -which I thought was cruel, vicious and catty. I found the people at this party to be shallow and the situation depressing. I did not stay long. Shallow people (non musicians) abound at the edges of the pop music world. Ugh.
As for Brian, Brian Jones was a consummate musician. He could play almost any unfamiliar instrument, and find the right part for the job; -all within 20 minutes. If you handed him a zither, he'd have it mastered and the part down in time to complete the session.
As for Ms. Simon's song, I have absolutely no recollection of who told me that it was about Mr. Beatty, but I have known this since the late 1970s, and have always accepted it as truth. I suspect it was at a party or something, but the source must have been unimpeachable as I never question it, and it fit the lyric so well. Still, I have NO recollection of the person who told me this tid-bit. Weird.
Of course, I knew it was NOT Mick! Mick is NOT the character in Sympathy For The Devil! Mick is one of my favourite writers and a nice guy. Stable, pleasant solicitous and responsible. -Not a bad harp player, as well. Mick can also imitate other singers so well, you cannot tell the difference. Joan Baez also has this talent.
Ms. Simon is a fine song writer and I always admired Richard Perry's productions.
PS: Ms. Simon can be heard to whisper, "Son of a gun" during the intro. I suspect that this reflects her satisfaction at Klaus Voormann's fender bass playing.
She confirmed it in the 80s
Lo.mas.grande
I heard this years ago.
The first part of the song is Mick Jagger and then the second part of the song is Warren Beatty and third part I have no idea those are just my opinions .. if you listen to it those versus the first and second it definitely outlines those two plus Mick Jagger actually sung on the second and third verse of the song in the background but didn't sing on the first one I wonder why??
I can't believe ppl didn't know who this song was about....WOW ppl...
WB OBVIOUSLY. Out of all the others he’s the one that’s so vain he actually say it’s about him. Duh. Lyricists are never so simple tho. it’s most likely a compilation of people and events that happened to rhyme better than others.
How could anyone not have know this? Warren Beatty was the most handsome of all of the known men in her life. 🙄
❤️💯👍🌍
After all these years I figured it out. The song is about her. :-)
No!
Get a grip people, why would she write a song putting down Jagger and then ask him to do backing vocals on it, which he did?
bramleyddraig HAHAHA 😂 SILLY PEOPLE! If she and Mick had a thing it was temporary.... logic will get u far !!!
How about a great sense of humor.
today is 9 - 27 - 23
Bramleybull, song ISN'T a putdown,
my interpretation of
this song ?
a big compliment
to him or her.
This song ISN'T about gender,
but, most of the comments, their
about
and
against
self-confident men.
I knew she still wouldn't tell !!!! Never heard James Taylor though. Doubt she will ever tell...... 💘 that song !!!!! 🙏
Yeah she didn't worry about what those other men thought about her singing about them because she didn't care about them, but she didn't write songs about J.T. after their divorce. She said James Taylor will always be the love of her life.
james taylor was quite an ass too. other women have corraborated
She's was and still is a beautiful woman. One who was, and not surprisingly so, pursued by beautiful men. Apparently a few of those "peacocks" were able to catch her fancy for at least a brief while, those lucky bastards! Lol. I don't get the kinda' current intrigue about Warren Beatty being at the center of this song's inspiration for her, although I think it's apparent from the diversity of the verses that the song is about more than one former male suitor. It was widely accepted that the song was about Warren Beatty some 40 years ago because Carly and Beatty dated not that long ago prior to the song's release and Beatty was a huge star known for his womanizing and confidence/arrogance at the time. I remember it being discussed on the radio in the very early 80's, so there's no real surprise. Even after all of these years, with the invention of the internet, it's relatively easy to retrace Carly's early love life and make some very good educated guesses about all of her inspirations for the song.
I always felt like one of them could be Sean Connery or Rodger Moore because of the underworld spy reference in the song.
Time to come clean, and admit it, I am the guy, I have a yacht, the Lear Jet and and am so fucking vain,,,lol. Truth is I am just a fan,, and would give my all, just for a hug .....x
What Female Has Not Experienced a Man Who was/is "So Vain"?!! This song resonates through every women's life.
And a lot of men's too!
she's not taken anything to the grave, SHE'S MILKING IT! good for her! ♥
I have always thought it was about all her ex-lovers - especially Beatty and Jagger.
Carly gorgeous woman 😍
Yet, in another interview, she said she didn’t write the lyrics....
It’s is about nick Nolte, warren Beatty and mick jagger.
anybody know what year the Your So Vain video is from? Cant be 1971, looks like the 80s
Of course! 🤷♀️
I always thought Carly wrote "You're so vain" about herself!
David Geffen was one of the subjects also supposedly.
It has to be Warren Beatty. Women have always said the guy is tall, perfect and to damn good looking. I doubt one of her ordinary boyfriends could rent a lear jet to see an eclipse for the hell of it. Unless that guy was Bill Gates or a Rich Movie Starr. I am very surprised that beatty ever settled down. It has to be Warren. No one else fits the description at the time.
It's Warren no-doubt in my mind!
she mentioned different lovers
I think she is stoking controversy to help people listen to the song and it is a good song, but Beatty is the guy i bet.
Warren Beatty dated 13,000 girls... So it is obviously him. The second verse that is.
hoorahhhhh this has been bugging me for decades ...
James T., Warren Beatty, Cat Stevens..... ❤❤❤❤
I knew it! Does that make me vain?
Nah - we knew about Warren Beatty way back then. But whatever. . . .
Wait-- you mean we were to construe that each verse of the song was about a different man? I never ever supposed that! I thought all the verses were descriptions of one man... and yes, I supposed it was Warren Beatty.
She has said that Mick Jagger isn't in the song - in fact they are friends. She has also dismissed that James Taylor is there, although he unfortunately flew to Nova Scotia, but the plane wasn't a Lear jet.
Mick does the backing vocals, originally Nilsson was going to do them but he said it was better with just Carly n Mick
MetFan37 MIKE JAGGER...IS REFERENCE
You can fly into Novia Scotia, but you can't fly out.
YOU'VE GOTTA LOVE CARLY!!!!!!
The reason people think it's mick jagger is because Mick Jagger is singing backup vocals on the song
JIMBO - DID U BUMP YER HEAD GETTIN OUTTA BED THIS AM?
That and because he's pretty damned vain.
I always heard that it was James Caan...damn rumors
we all new. it was. him. w. b
Not such a surprise..i knew this years ago.....
Love these chicks....
Once again the news ruins everything
Is “clouds in my coffee “ an idiomatic expression?
It's family, inspired only.
Charlie still there like a granddad, seemed good, but i guess worse than vain, theres vain and theres venality, as for Carly she is brazen sexy and its a timeless song.
We’ve known it was Beatty for years. But we thought the whole song was about him.
Youre so vain , according to a recent interview, was about David Geffen
Tons of people guessed warren Beaty
It's the lead singer "Sting" of the Police lol.
you people are so under educated this song is a classic everyone who grew up in the 70's knew who this song was about. People have no idea what it was like we were hippies and you subscribed to peace, love, sexual revolution, womens rights, green peace. And then after that the next generations took it down hill what is left, hate, guns, racism, sexism, and the idea that a gun is more important then your next door neighbor
Exatamente!!
As a teen at the start of the 80's I have an idea because of my older siblings. They are older sisters all of whom are 10 years and older. Old enough to remember Helen Reddy's "I Am Woman," Billie Jean King, Gloria Steinhem and others importance in the Woman's Rights movement, Greenpeace as it was the precursor to today's conservation importance. Water, Wind, Solar and Geothermal energies were supposed to be the future, but politicians and lobbyists killed those in the US, just like they did with the Metric System. All of these ideals were crushed by my generation-the 80's Me decade. Music and 3 Channel television variety/music shows were the soundtrack and videos of my life before Cable television, MTV and now the internet. Carly Simon and James Taylor have always been special to me. They were responsible for my introduction to saxophonist David Sanborn as began to learn the horn. He played on their records and toured with them as well. Carly Simon has always been a favourite and I agree with many of your sentiments.
And one's wife/children, etc.are more important than virtual signaling how politically correct one is!
It would never have been James Taylor.....She has two kids with him that would have shunned her for saying that !
Yes, and she was married to him when she composed that song.
Shunned?….. Hardly.
More cowbell
Cowbell, Jagger, and guitar with strong reverb, added later by David Perry.
I literally used that phrase tonight at a bar in Italy and not one person had a clue what I was talking about! 😂
Come on everybody new is Warren Beatty
Does it really matter in the scheme of things. Just enjoy the music.
She absolutely denies that any part of it refers to Beatty and then in a later interview says that the second verse onward refers to Beatty.
Knowing Nicholson's penchant for grand entrances, twirling around, wearing fedora-like hats and looking for the closest mirror I'm leaning towards him
Then again, did she have any relationship with Robert Redford?
Wasn’t George Hamilton one of the men?
I heard her say on a well known talk show which I didn't like that the song was about the young oprah winfrey.
The song was way before Oprah.
I always thought is was about me
But then the song would be, "You're so delusional...."
People seriously giveashit about this? LOL! Warren Beatty is a given and we've known it for years, The rest? It's probably about Truman Capote! That Apricot scarf gives it away.
Wait, I thought this song was about David Geffen??
That could fit. I just watches a documentary on him. By that time, he had recently founded Elecktra/Asylum Record label which is distributed by Warner Brothers, Carly Simon and James Taylor's record label. After his work with Laura Nyro made him millions.
It should be I'm so vain and this song is about me.
Warren in his Prime was a Tall, Dark, Handsome Devil, the girls tell me. I wish I looked like him for One week just to see what that would be like....
You gotta vein
I was a kid when the song came out, it is ABOUT WARREN BEATTY. He just did Shampoo movie and was a Girls Dream. That guy should get a medal for all the Damage he did in the Love Wars.!
I think it’s about every man who thinks he is God’s gift to women. We have all met a mant who thinks he’s is the best and we are lucky he is allowing us the pleasure of his company. That’s why this song still resonates with people today,
She slept around a lot. Could be one of hundreds of famous people
Ohhh how fun! Lucky her!!!
@@glendagrant9042 🤭😁🤗
Envy maybe?
WRONG! I knew it was Warren Beaty in 1988
I am easily eliminated, form the list of suspects, but I might still be a little vain, especially when I wear my dress overalls!
I have it on very good authority ! That she had a brief fling with David Bowie circa 1970 she became freindly with Bowie via an English boyfriend she had in the late 1960s ! And she also had a extramarital fling with Donald Trump circa 1982
Eewwww
One doesn't have a fling with the trumpie ... only a STAIN.
I would imagine she was looking in the mirror and it just popped into her head.
Sounds like she’s been around
Kris Kristofferson was the Lear jet man.
Just ask who has a race horse then was it Warren Beatty Mick Jagger Jack Nicholson. or James Taylor..
James Taylor: she wrote a break up song about him before marrying him?
could the jet man be virgin airways?
No the song is older than that
HUGH HEFNER wasn,t mentioned
Why would he? He was an entire generation older than her.
Who cares? BTW I even bought the album.
The song is about me ...........no ,no, no ,it's true ...........Carly and I had an intense sexual encounter. ...........cosmically ...........but what troubled me is she kept insisting ..............I was so vain ...............it puzzled me UNTILL the song was released ..............but there you have it. .......oh yes .........and the subject was Africa ...........