Flexible Brake and Turn Signal LED - Revival Cycles Tech Talk
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Our head engineer Stefan goes through the Flexible Brake and Turn Signal LED for you guys.
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I just stumbled onto your channel. Led me to look at your site and I found lighting that fits exactly the customization vision I was aiming for.
Another super helpful video. Keep these up guys, awesome stuff!
The install what he was doing looks very professional specially with him using the heat gun
Love the heat gun tip!
Seems so chill with such a large beard, he can just hide the mic under there and have such a high quality voice.
Would you happen to know what the current draw is for the fully lit strip? I might just replace my dual LED bulbs and plastic LED bar with that. Bondo and paint over the tail light on my triple project.
I got mine last yeah has a short in the wire harnes coming out the end 😢 love the lights though
Sub'ed!
Great info as always .
Will you guys ship to Australia?
WHAT SIZE RESISTER IS THE ONE YOUR USING BETWEEN THE 2 WIRES?
That is one great beard
Nice
Also, just a quick question. I have this LED, the M-Unit and the M-Stop. Is the M-Stop the modulator you mention in the video that can handle those complicated set ups?
+Saturdays Wrench The m-Stop is a small inline brake light modulator that can be setup to flash the brake light in different ways when the brakes are applied. This functionality is already built into the m-Unit so there is no need for an m-Stop and an m-Unit.
We recommend the m-Stop if you just need a brake light modulator, but the m-Unit is better suited to complete re-wires and changing to push button handlebar controls.
Saturdays Wrench did you ever figure out how to have the turn signals assist with the taillight/break light function? I have this led and m-unit as well.
Be nice if this had a sequential feature too.
I got 4 of them i install one of them in luggage top box for my scooter.
So, when the brake is activated, does the entire strip light up red? I like that it's a "2/3" setup..where there is a left, right, and center (as my state requires x amount of inches between turn signals), but I want the entire strip to light up on brake.
In order to make any light operate as a Run + Brake + Turn signal you need an additional module that can prioritize braking over running and turn functionality. We do offer something for that on our site as well.
Hi there I just put one of these on my suzuki intruder, all the lights are working except the dim red running light, do you have any idea why? Also would I need the change the relay flasher? The indicators seem to be working great
The LED brake/turn/tail light is setup as a single filament style of light. If you are installing on a conventional motorcycle electrical system (i.e. not an m-Unit) then you need to use a dual element circuit to split the brake light into the dim tail light and bright brake light. If you've already installed the dual element circuit and that is not working email techsupport@revivalcycles.com
I have the m-unit blue and this led bar. How can I get the turn signals to assist in the tail light/break light functionality?
In order to achieve run/brake/turn functionality in one light you need an additional module which is available on our site.
shop.revivalcycles.com/run-turn-brake-signal-module/
These lights look super cool 😎 but I wonder are such lights waterproof ???? Being from the U.K. . Always need to consider the snow and rain this will be subjected to in a year .
They are sealed. Momentary submersion in water ought to be possible with them.
-Berry
Is there a good link and how to make your own dual filament adapter I feel as if mine isn't correctly working it tends not to get as bright as yours was shown
Odds are that you have a too small of a resistor and should go up in size. I don't know of an instructional video, it wouldn't be hard to make one but then again, if you just need to make one you're going to pay more for all of the materials than it would cost to just buy a replacement.
Could these be used as a fender eliminator kit on a 2011 victory Vegas jackpot? I have the 250 mm back tire.
Anything is possible, this LED light would be a good solution for the brake/turn/tail light, but you would still need to solve the mounting and other mechanical issues with eliminating the fender. Also with the newer bikes many have CAN BUS and that usually requires the addition of load balance resistors to trick the computers into thinking the LED is actually an standard bulb.
Could I stick this to the back of the seat on a motorcycle? I am getting an 1974 xl 350 passed down to me soon and would like to cut the back of the frame and would probably look better on the seat if that is an option?
It might work to mount it to the seat, but I'm not sure how well it would stick to the flexible material of the seat. It is much better if you are able to mount it to a metal surface that is attached to the frame. The other issue with seat mounting is that you'd have to disconnect the wires every time you removed the seat...not that big of a deal, but you'd want to use good connectors.
Revival Cycles Alright! thank you for the reply. I am getting a xl350 soon for free and was wanting to possibly convert it to cafe racer, my big issue is the frame and I just gotta hope I can find a frame loop that fits the end.
Can I get delivery in india
is posible use this ONLY for brake ligth or you have a different model??
thanks
You can wire these to operate as a single light, but there are over versions available as special order. Email websales@revivalcycles.com for any special order requests.
how would you use 1 turn signal wire to make it flash
The flashing is controlled by a flasher relay. But the question of one wire is simply that the LED uses a shared ground so the single black ground wire provides ground paths for both turns, and the brake lights. The details of how the flasher relay is setup will depend on the specific bike this is being installed on.
hai do u have that light in white and amber colour in one 2 in 1 plan wanna put on the front bike maybe near the axel and for rear the one that u show up red tail light plus amber turn signal lights and how much? it can be install anywhere on a bike right?
No we do not have a dual color with white and amber. These lights can be installed anywhere on the bike as long as there is a good surface to mount to and you are able to route the wires so they can be powered.
do yall remember what size length was used in this demonstration? are there just as much amber-colored LED in the 8inch as oppose to the 11 inch, or is the amber proportional to the number of LEDs?
The light shown in the video is the 8.2" length. The turn signal portion is proportionate to the length of the light, as the length increases so does the number of LEDs dedicated to the turn signals, for example the 8.2" has 2" of signal LEDs on each side. The 14" light has 3" signal LEDs.
thank you!
Can I use something like this on a 1980 cm200t Twinstar? I believe it's a 6V - they converted them to 12V in 1981. Thanks!
The LED strip is 12V only, and really will not work properly on a 6V system. Perhaps you can swap parts or make an upgrade to get the 12V charging system.
Good video! Do you have to change the flasher relay too?
That will depend on the exact bike you are working on, some are LED compatible from the factory, others will need to have a new flasher relay, and those that have the turn signal control integrated with the ECU or gauge are usually fixed by using load balance resistors.
Could these strips be mounted on the rear taillights of a truck?
Sure, these strips are 12 volt LED's, so they can be used with standard automotive systems. Keep in mind that if you need tail and brake functions you need to add a dual element circuit so the light has two brightness intensities.
I have a 98 honda aero vt1100 with the big ugly tail light and long fender I plan to cut the fender to give it a more hardtail look what would I need to hook the strip up? does it hook straight in to the other wires or do I gotta change a bunch of wiring... I'm new to all this so I'm sorry for the ?s just trying to get some knowledge
The LED strip comes with a dual element circuit and that makes it so you can connect it directly to factory tail light wiring and have the whole strip work like a tail light.
I’ve got an old Lambretta GP could I use this set up on that
Do it!
so does the circuit red/orange wire doo-dad just have a diode in it?
There is a resistor, you could fabricate this your sef pretty easily if you know you're doing.
So I bought the led strip, and when I wired it together and apply the brake all lights turn, how do I get it to work properly ,left turn right turn
The LED strip comes with 4 wires. The Black is ground, the red is for the center section of the strip, the Yellow and Blue wires are for the outer left and right sections. To get the brake / tail function you need to use a dual element adapter that connects to the red wire. The dual element has a red wire for the brake light and an orange wire for the tail light. To get this to function correctly, you need to connect these wires to the appropriate wires on the motorcycle.
Do you need a modulator too?
Would this be able to mount to a subcage?
I'm not sure what you mean by subcage, if you are referring to a subframe, then sure, these can be stuck to virtually any clean surface. The trick to getting a professional looking install is to have a dedicated place that has been purposefully fabricated so the install looks intentional.
big question... its have E certificate on led strip? E symbol?
This does not have an E-certificate.
There is a version without turn signals from a company called Highsider. It has E mark on it. Costs ~30€
Vladas Gaigalas what does the E mean why is it important?
@@TankToChest with E-certificate you can install it on your bike without having to let it be checked from your responsible Technical Inspection Agency
nice product thx for share the vid , i just have a question after intall the stripe , how long they will last ? water and cold weather resistant ?? thx
cheers
The LED's do not have published life expectancy specifications, but most SMD LED's are designed to last somewhere around 50,000 hours. So considering an average speed of 30 mph, they should last something like 1,500,000 miles, or ~2,400,000 kilometers. Unless they are physically damaged or subjected to excessive voltage these lights should easily out last the bike.
The LED's are not sensitive to temperature, but the housing that holds them is plastic and like all plastic at cold temperatures it can become brittle, so if it is cold be careful not to hit the housing with something hard. Other than that cold temperatures should not cause any issues.
Also the lights are reasonably water resistant, they are not 100% sealed, but they can handle the usual water spray from rain and splashes from the road. Be somewhat careful if using high pressure water to wash the bike, and these lights should not be submerged in water.
Thx a lot!!!
How you make the turn light blink?
Ps. Great vid.
Blinking is a function of the turn signal relay, on older bikes this would be an independent module that should be upgraded to an LED compatible model capable of being triggered by the lower draw of LEDs. On newer bikes where the ECU manages the flashing function A load balance resistor that matches the approximate resistance of the OEM incandescent bulbs is required on each light so that the ECU doesn't not misinterpret the lower draw as a burnt out bulb. Using LED lights without one of these measures will usually result in hyper flashing LED lights and trigger warning codes on newer bikes.
Greetings from Romania! Can you please tell me where can i buy this model from? Thanks!
Here's a link to them on our site.
shop.revivalcycles.com/flexible-run-brake-or-turn-signal-led-light/
Can this work for a brand new bike, like a Thruxton R!
This will work on the new bikes, but depending on how sophisitcated the systems are it could trigger a dash "lamp" warning, or the turn signals could flash too quickly. If that is the case you will need to also install load balance resistors, or possibly replace the flasher relay. BUT I've heard that on the new triumphs the ECU can be re-programmed to accept LED lights, but I do not have experience with that. Check the forums.
How can I tie the blue and the yellow cables of turns to work also as running mode? Is necessary a Radiantz fleekz module? Thank youu
If you're looking to make the turn signals work as run position lights you can use two additional dual element circuits to give you two modes of brightness.
If you want them to operate as Run/Brake/Turn lights you'll need a module like the Fleekz to manage that operation. The same is true even if you're running an m.Unit.
@@RevivalCycles I have a full red run brake and turn, in the box I have 1 module and 1 dual circuit element. I don't know the reason, cause I can't use together on my cb400f
ruclips.net/video/LcyhsvqY8oY/видео.html I tied all in the correct way , following the wiring diagram of Fleekz module .
Greetings from Denmark! Are the flexible brake and turn signal LED E-approved?
+Søren Larsen Pedersen
Unfortunately they do not have E certification. We do sell many of them to people in the Eurozone but if you are confident that law enforcement in your region is strict in this regard you may run into issues, you'll have to decide if it's worth the trouble.
Søren de tjekker det aldrig medmindre du køre med rygmærke ;) heller ikke til syn.
Revival Cycles, escuse me , what is the resistance value?
Nice video. I have bought the same LED from your eshop and I would like to know how to connect the wires with my m-Unit from motogagdet. Do I need to plug the cable that comes with the LED light?
Thank you
+ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ ΚΑΡΑΓΙΑΝΝΙΔΗΣ The LED strip comes with a wire diagram in the packaging, and this will indicate what each of the wires does. The details of the wire colors will be dependent on which LED strip you purchase, some have turn indicators, some don't. The integration with the m-Unit is very simple, and the one wire tail light feature of the m-Unit makes setting up the tail / brake light very easy. Just connect the brake wire to the brake output and then configure the m-Unit for one wire LED tail light (menu 2, config B). Then the turn signal wires go to their respective output terminals, and that leaves just the ground connection, and that's it.
+Revival Cycles Ι have bought the LED brake with the turn indicators. The connection is the same?
+ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ ΚΑΡΑΓΙΑΝΝΙΔΗΣ Yes sir!
Does this support various hazard mode which now come as add-ons bikes??
If your bike has hazard modes, this light will work with them. However, this is just a basic light and it will not add hazard modes, or any other features. It is essentially 3 lights left turn, brake, right turn each light can be turned on or off individually but it is up to the way the electrics are setup on the bike that determines how the light functions.
Now a days, there are many aftermarket hazard modules that offers different hazard modes. So my query is whether this will work fine with such products or not!
are these things water proof? planning to tape this on my suspension as turn signals
They are sealed. I wouldn't count on them being submerged for any lengthy period of time but I've also never seen one fail on account of getting wet.
Can I use this on a 6V set up?
+Luis Karlo Bailon These LED strips are setup for 12V systems, they will light up on a 6V system but they won't be as bright.
what would best for a 2007 Honda Shadow 750 spirit I would like the all in one kit ?
Can you elaborate on what you are looking for?
Revival Cycles I wanna clean up the back of The bike the stock crap is terrible...
The LED strip we sell comes with a dual element circuit so you can connect it directly to the existing brake light wires. The turn signals should work with the factory setup, but they might flash too fast or not flash at all. This can be fixed by replacing the flasher relay with an m-Flash or m-Wave, or other LED compatible flasher relay. It may also work to use load balance resistors. There are many choices and trade offs, not really a one size fits all kit.
What kind of resistance do you use?
Mario Bakker. Amsterdam
The resistance for the dual element circuit depends on what the draw or voltage drop of the LED's being used. In general we find resistors in the 75 -100 ohm range in the correct wattage for the application work well.
Thank you for your help
with this work with a 2006 ducati s2r without any parts.
The short answer would be no. At minimum you'd need connectors to integrate it into the OEM harness and you would need to replace the factory turn signal module with an LED compatible relay.
Slightly off topic but how long did it take to grow you beard 👍
It was about 5 years with the beard, after the first 3 there wasn't that noticeable of a change.
How well does that adhesive stick/last? Do you recommend any safety wire/zip ties to really secure it or does is that sticky backing really reliable? Very curious about the longevity of the tape and if it ends up coming up at any point.
Hey Dave - We installed this light a several bikes, and we happen to have the Morini in the shop for some repair work. That light was installed about 3-4 years ago, and I can't see any evidence of deterioration or delamination on the LED strip. The tap that they use is a 3M VHB type double tape, and you might be surprised to find out how many things are held in place with that stuff.
Awesome! Thank you very much. Looks like I'll be picking one up! Much appreciated.
Why can you not make a workable electric bike brake and turn signal.
I don't know what you mean. Why can't you?
can you really see this thing from a distance in broad daylight?
Yep, those are not ordinary LED's those are high output SMD's.
U guys have cool gadget and unfortunately its too pricey in malaysia.
can i buy 2 of these and wire them together?
Yes, these can be wired in parallel, and they will turn on / off together in a 12v system.
Revival Cycles how do you do that? Im not very good at this, please help me
How big of an angle can you bend the light? 90°?
Not even close to 90º. You might be able to push it a bit further but the angle that we present it in this video is about as far as I would feel comfortable.
@@RevivalCycles thanks!
The link you provided no longer works
shop.revivalcycles.com/flexible-turn-and-brake-led-tail-light/
escuse me, what is the resistance value?
Resistance value for what? The LED brake light or turn signal? Or are you wondering about the dual element circuit?
yes dual circuito, the wire whit one imput and 2 output
what is the resistance element value, ?
please could you help me?
The resistance value will be different depending on how many LED's are in the string, and depending on exactly which LED's you are using. But generally I find that 100 ohms is a good place to start.
Who is the manufacturer?
Made in the USA by Radiantz
Every Thing is good but u shoud zoom it camer
Plastic has "memory!" After time, won't it pull away?
Judicious heat application helps to avoid this. I'm certain that it's still possible, maybe even likely but in the 8 odd years that we've been using and selling these I haven't seen it happen when installed correctly.
That is super cool but I'm not going to lie I'm 50 years old I've been hit in the rear by two different cars on two different bikes and my philosophy anymore is but bigger the taillight and markers the better hahaha
Sucks man, my worst nightmare is getting nailed from behind at a light or in traffic.
How good is the tape ,how long will it stay on my bike ?
The tape is excellent! We have had some installed for years with no evidence of lifting. The tape is 3M VHB which is incredible stuff. Just make sure to help the light take the correct shape as shown in this video and you will have no problems.
LEDS don't like heat
True, but the plastic tubing will melt well before the LED's are damaged. The Junction temperature limit on most SMD LED's is around 135 C or 275 F and if you consider that I'm heating from the outside AND handling this assembly with bare hands the heat in this case is totally irrelevant, because that junction temperature is way below the limits.
Please don't wear black shirt, it makes it hard to see what you are doing.
Thanks Michael, noted.
Nice