And this is why KiteTales & Flex deserves much better than MonaBohamad2. Because while MonaBohamad2 slammed the Disney Renaissance films (ex: called them “pointless” and “popular because of haters”) in favour of their remakes, KiteTales & Flex acknowledges that even though she was gonna be as kind to the remake as possible for what a total cash-grab it is, it doesn’t change that she at least has a very passionate take on the original and acknowledged that it’s unarguably superior.
Broadway Beast was even more adorable, if that's even possible. Unlike the live action movie, the stage play expanded on the characters instead of changing them.
Belle teaching that girl to read made no sense because girls in that social class (judging by the girl’s clothes) already knew how. They had books, pamphlets, and magazines for women and girls. Women reading in 1700s France wasn’t some revolutionary, empowered thing. They were expected to read and write for basic needs. Granted, not everyone in that time could read and write as well as Belle could, but they were taught the basics so they could function in life. Contrary to popular belief, that era wasn’t full of unenlightened people, like Hollywood wants us to believe.
To be fair we don't know the exact year Beauty and the Beast takes place in since Disney has never been 100% faithful to the original fairytale. (I think this one was written by Perrault?)
Papa Moomin I think that the Beauty and the Beast’s story was first written in a book by Jeanne Marie Leprince de Beaumont. She was a private French teacher to the family of rich British people (French was fancy at the time) and she used the story to teach the two little girls of the family the language
I recently worked in the regional archives of my town, and MY GOD, the level of schoolgoers in middle to lower income families during the end of the 18th and all of the 19th century was so surprisingly high!
Papa Moomin we actually KNOW the exact time period. If you watch the original movie there is a scene after the banquet song where the clock is taking her around and talk about the architecture of the castle. Based of the name of the style he say we can guess that they are in the renaissance. The movie is actually set in a different time period, as we can clearly guess from the attire of the guests at the ball in the beginning. That kind of puffy, over decorated dresses and the tall and eccentric hairstyles are from the rococò era. The era when Villeneuve write the book (or at least one of the more famous version).
Spot-on analysis. Maybe I've just grown even more cynical over time, but all of those downgraded changes scream "agenda" to me. Why do people seem to think that being kind and nurturing is akin to being weak? If anything, it's the opposite. Wish I had something else to contribute to the conversation, but I think you summed it up quite well.
Agreed. Belle always stood up for herself but never in a way that was mean-spirited towards Beast, even if some might say he deserved it. And while she never mistreated him, she didn't come around to actively liking him until AFTER he stopped being a colossal jerk.
I remember when Beast got hurt saving Belle from wolves and she did her best to patch him up. When she was dabbing him with hot water, he yelled in her face but Belle was having none of it. Even though she is kind and nurturing, she’s not afraid to stand up for herself or others that she loves.
@@khfan4life365 Also true. She was assertive when she needed to be. Feminists can't seem to tell the difference between that and acting like a jerk, however.
The changes and additions are probably just to try and show that Belle is a "strong independent woman" who don't need no man. Pointless and dumb. Especially since, like you said, she was already a perfect character.
SirPoofyPants your not really a strong powerful woman if you have to tell everyone every five minutes. A strong person just is strong and doesn’t have to do anything to prove it. Shoving these messages just feels like the creators were too insecure and had little faith in the audience to enjoy any of their films. That’s why we have only gotten moana and frozen as new Disney princesses most recently.. growing up there were so many new amazing films and unique ideas or retelling of other stories in addition to everything else.
Making the new Belle "strong" was such a slap in the face for those of us who identify with the original. The agenda just indirectly told us we're weak and worthless.
@@LadyDragonbane Bell was strong on her own. She literally sacrificed herself to save her dad. She was a very well done character, a lot of people identified with Belle, and Belle was such a feminist icon! But then Emma Watson came in with partly toxic feminism and ruined the image of Belle.
I liked the animated Belle for being naïve, romantic and feminine. Basically, she knew she was beautiful but she was also very kind and respectful to everyone, beast included. she never really felt abused like in the new movie- she couldn't relate to the beast, yet she loved him and adored him completely. in the live movie, they made it so that the beast and Belle can relate to each other, because both have this darkness in this lives, both lost their mothers, both feel hated and abused. I miss the old Belle who was so filled with wonder, who didnt have that dejection. she could give so much love because she was secure in herself. she was light and the beast had this brooding dark past. in the new movie, there is no such concept because Emma as Belle herself feels a bit like an odd beast in her town. so that whole concept of Belle saving the beast wasn't there. the movie aside, you have a most lovely princess like voice!
naive? NAIVE?? what an insult and utter oblivion you must have. she was literally the smartest girl in france. she read books all the time. she was innovative. she didnt fall for the "most handsome guy" in the town that every woman would die for, even when he was begging for her! she was anything but naive. dont ever say that again.
@@billievanderpol Lol, I think Mary Thomas meant the part of naive's definition that says "natural and unaffected, innocent," I think she's saying she was childlike, sincere, and sweet, I call that a compliment. You are right, Belle is very wise, and pairing that with her feminine sweetness described by MT as naivete makes for a great character.
Also, while Belle was kind and caring, she was also firm when she needed to be. She wasn’t afraid to stand up for herself and others. After the Belle number, Gaston and LeFou insult Maurice and Belle snaps at them for insulting her father. In the scene when she’s cleaning Beast’s wounds, she doesn’t let him walk all over her. When he roars and yells at her, she chides him for not controlling his temper. Later, we see that same strength when she yells at Gaston for insulting the Beast. Just because she’s not kicking ass and taking names doesn’t mean she’s not strong in her own way.
@@billievanderpol Smartest girl in France? You're ignorantly generalizing all bibliophiles. The animated version clearly shows that Belle loves reading fairytales or anything that sparks her imagination, fuels her desire for adventure, and enriches her inner world. She's an idealist and a daydreamer. It's time to stop this silly stereotype that every book lover is some scholarly "Hermione Granger" clone. And Mary Thomas is correct. Belle IS naive. She's a true innocent. This quality is extremely evident when she showed the townspeople the image of the Beast through the mirror. She's so gullible that she thinks that the crowd will be completely openminded about the whole thing. The last thing she imagined was for them freak out and to turn into a bloodthirsty mob. If that isn't a classic example naïveté, then I don't know what is.
They were trying to make Belle more assertive in the remake, instead of displaying that quiet strength she had in the original. In the end, they wrecked the character. I HATED the Live Action Remake of this movie.
I think the biggest (or at least most notable) issue was that Watson cannot do facial expressions. Every time a scene called for a certain expression, she had one that was completely off, if not the exact opposite. It's bad when a CG character called "Beast" looks more human than you do.
From the director of The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, folks. One thing the Twilight pentalogy is better-known for is its strong criticisms, but I’ll give the Twilight films this; when I go through them, it makes the movie ironically funny, meaning Twilight is actually so-bad-it’s-good (a Hilariocity, if you will). While with the B&tB remake, it’s very bad (not a massive step-up from Belle’s Magical World at all), and not in a good way. It’s just turning one of many’s favourite classics in cinema and bastardizing it so much that we may need Don Bluth to join forces with Disney (rather than make people think it is a Disney movie like with Thumbelina) be able to remake the film into its former glory.
Kieran Stark - i 100% agree with you except that i actually think Kristen suited the part as Bella because of the actual atmosphere of the movie being quite dull and not filled with intense emotions as B&TB had. just my opinion though, and you’re right about enjoying the twilight saga; it was actually entertaining
Kieran Stark - i 100% agree with you. with twilight, i just don’t see someone else playing Bella’s part other than Kristen, it just feels off. however with Belle, i could name so many underrated actors who would’ve slayed her part perfectly and taking the time to adapt her mannerisms and personality.
Kieran Stark - also i feel like Emma turned Belle into some tomboy that is independent and strong minded when Belle is a quite a quiet, polite and opinionated person. she had etiquette and grace when doing everything, she wasn’t like a feminist like the movie almost portrayed her to be.
Even though you actually like Twilight, it’s always perfectly understandable why not everyone is going to like (or even tolerate it). But hey, let’s all just be be lucky it’s... STILL A BETTER LOVE STORY (or in this case, pentalogy) THAN BAYFORMERS (except Transformers: Age of Extinction since while I do see why many people dislike it, I also see why some other people like Bobsheaux would even defend it. So, it is a guilty pleasure, while the rest of the Bayformers films, I proudly slammed the Mona Bohamad2 for defending from Bobsheaux, The Blockbuster Buster and AnIMat). With that said, my beef with Lindsay Ellis is that she made bashers of both pentalogies look more annoying, unsophisticated and cowardly than their praisers in essays like “Dear Stephanie Meyer” and “The Whole Play” series where she’s been telling people to stop praising the Fast and the Furious video so much because it would make them look like hypocrites since she acted like Michael Bay films and Twilight films are not much different from Fast & Furious yet they get all the hate yet people like the Fast & Furious series for SOME reasons (looks like she’s gonna have to watch The Cosmonaut Variety Hour, Bobsheaux and Cinematic Excrement before she continued insulting the series’ audience)! Heck, even Ice Age is a superior film pentalogy because at least it was strong in the 2000s even though it was a zombie franchise in the 2010s with A Mammothy Christmas, Continental Drift and especially Collision Course (mostly, if not completely, Ice Age is a franchise than got less and less better with every movie. Like, the original is great, The Meltdown is eh, Dawn of the Dinosaurs is the Age of Extinction of Blue Sky Studios, Continental Drift is very subpar and Collision Course is bleh!), whereas in the 2020s, if we really ask for more Ice Age, there could be a reboot that is more like the original; it pretends Continental Drift and Collision Course, my least fav Blue Sky films (as well as Rio 2 and Ferdinand, but if you don’t mind these movies, power to you.) has NEVER happened and only acts like Ice Age the stand-alone movie it could’ve been the whole time.
I hate how Watson thought that Belle not insisting on cleaning the wounds, her forcing the light on the beast, and her tricking her father and shoving him was “feminist” and not “douche bag” and, yes, I AM pinning this all on Watson. She got cast before a writer was even attached and the writer so happened to her her friend who wrote perks of being a wallflower. I remember an interview saying that she chose the writer and it boggles my mind why would Disney give Emma that much control. They’ve had Hollywood legends that weren’t as finicky or controlling and yet...they caved for Watson??
Watson comes off as a diva to me. I don't think she's a particularly great actress, and I wish they had cast someone more fitting for this role because she neither looks or acts like the character. It eludes me how she became this popular.
Knowing Emma Watson's political ideology, assuming she had any say into the matter, I would say that they were trying to remove aspects of Bell's personality that were deemed too delicate or not assertive enough.These days no female protagonists can show any frail traits, or any character flaws whatever.
The live action Beast and Belle has absolutely no chemistry ...it was painful to watch . The movie lacked romance and magic . When the feather duster became human was my favorite part because she was shunning.
I have almost always been a fan of 24 Frames of Nick except for when he made “Frozen 2 is Terrible, Stop Lying” with a “Hotel Transylvania films and Frozen 1 are the best, stop lying” beginning and said that Anna and Elsa has no chemistry with each other, but he never complained that Beauty and the Beast (late 2010s remake) characters like the titular “protagonists” Belle and Beast had much less chemistry. Granted, Frozen II does have its fair share of weaknesses, but compared to other movies of last year like Toy Story 4, Arctic Dogs, The Queen’s Corgi, Abominable, The Secret Life of Pets 2, Playmobil the Movie, Uglydolls, The Addams Family, The Lion King and Uglydolls, it looks like The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (which means that The Lego Movie 2 is my favourite animation of one of my least favourite years of animation up to the ranks of 2013, though Spies in Disguise and How to Train Your Dragon 3, even though it feels more underwhelming than its hard-to-top-in-terms-of-high-quality predecessors, come close and are the only other ones I found to be great).
It’s sad when the sleeping wardrobe and the piano with no teeth have more chemistry and love in their relationship then the main two characters of Belle and the Beast
The live end death scene had no emotion because it lacked the buildup of belle falling in love.... watson took out all the reasons why Belle fell in love and basically fell in love with him because he was the big bad jock who treated her poorly
For me the animated was a shorter film but said a lot more with its wonderful simplicity. That simplicity created an emotional complexity that you wanted more of but the live action had NONE of that. No chemistry no emotional buildup at all. I was so sad. Beast didn’t learn anything or earn his transformation in the live action. It was so devoid of heart and intention. BRING BACK THE MAGIC DISNEY PLEASE!! If you can’t do it right LEAVE MY CLASSICS ALONE! Cinderella was a wonderful reimagining because it wasn’t a senseless copy. This was
The Beast surprising Belle with his library is one of the sweetest, thoughtful, and romantic moments I've seen. His reaction to her surprise and joy was so endearingly vulnerable.
Another subtle difference that I noticed was the porridge/soup scene. In the original, Belle sees Beast gobbling down his food in a very primitive way. Belle is stunned, but thoughtfully tries to look the other way. Yet, Beast is able to discern Belle's surprise and tries to use a spoon without success. This failure made him very self-conscious and ashamed. So Belle, out of deep compassion and understanding, decides to tactfully find a middle ground by drinking from the bowl...but in a more refined way and the Beast successfully follows suit. In the remake, however, Belle watches Beast with this judgmental/condescending look on her face. She then raises her eyebrows at him, sighs disdainfully, picks up the bowl, and gives him this look that says, "Fine, I guess I'll have to sink to _your_ level and do it _your_ way because I'm _such_ a _good_ person." Animated Belle displayed profound emotional intelligence. She's aware how vulnerable Beast is at that moment and teaches him without humiliating him. She treats him with dignity and empathy. Also, the way they raised their bowls to acknowledge one another before eating was such a cute moment. Remake Belle, on the otherhand, was just so patronizing and sanctimonious. The whole scene lacks sincerity. That holier-than-thou expression on Emma Watson's face made me want to shove her face right into her tomato soup, to be brutally honest.
Isn't it weird that the animated characters in the original were so much better at non verbal acting than the live action? Total props to the animators of the original. Plus they wanted to actually tell a good story, not just please decades of silly nitpicking and make money.
It's the cult of Hermione/Emma Watson. The perfecting a character to the point that all others pale compared to her. (The hp movies ruin Ron's character to make Hermione better.)
They didn’t just ruined Ron. They also ruined Harry and Ginny. The films spent too much time giving Harry and Hermione the sexual tension (that dance scene that never happen in the books) while forgetting to develop romantic feelings between Harry and his WIFE and somehow Harry Potter, the protagonist and titular character, has lower leadership and fighting skills than Hermione.
@@nont18411 Yeah, I feel like Ron being downgraded in the movies is a topic that has been talked to death. There are so many videos highlighting it. But nobody seems to talk about how Harry was also downgraded. His wit, leadership abilities, resourcefulness wasn't shown enough. Like, the dragon escape idea was credited to Hermione, even though it was Harry in the books. Figuring out how to save Sirius was also Harry's achievement which was again given to Hermione in the movies. Emma Watson feels that Hermione is both the head and the heart of the trio. When really I would say that Hermione is the mind, Ron the heart, and Harry is the soul of the trio. They balance each other out.
well, I thought the film was perfect (hp). but in beauty and the beast, the director failed I guess or maybe I watched the classic animation all the time, and how lively and prompt it was compared to the live one
Exactly! Because a woman who had a unique personality in her village despite the fact that she had to pay the price of isolation by others, that she obviously rejected or talked back to men when she had to but also being polite when situation required and standing her ground against her entire village to talk about her loved ones was not "feminist enough" for her! It is so sad! Plus the lack of education! She rejected corsets because of her "feminism" without even bothering to see what a corset actually was! The movie was horrible in general but Belle's character was definitely one of the saddest changes for me!
@afootineachworld I think no one understands what feminism is nowadays. They use exactly the same phrases as women of early 20th century used, regardless of context! Right now their "feminism" is only about saying what a terrible world is when men "rule it" and by placing somen who fight in movies. Nowadays is not "feminist enough" unless the woman fights with a sword! There is no originality in movies anymore, not a variety of characters that might not be strong in body but strong in spirit etc. Also by picturing women always as victims even insults me and I am a woman. I believe I am capable for much more than...being a victim to men!
that statement is so stupid especially since Belle is definitely a good female role model and definitely a good feminist. You don't need to change her character to make her more "feminist"
2:08 I have the feeling that Emma felt like Belle having the beast reveal himself to her made Belle ToO pAsSiVe and her shoving the candle in his face made her more AcTivE and StRoNg
I Don't think the director's name is Emma...Oh right you thought just because Emma is a feminist she made every decision happen in this movie. Sorry but they have directors for a reason. You're forgetting that not every feminist makes things happen in a film whilst ACTING. Yes, Emma Watson is an actress. NOT the director
It’s sad that tenderness is seen as weakness. It’s okay to be gentle and kind toward those you love. Belle may have been peppy and gentle, but she was no pushover, she always stood up for herself. Belle was proof that a woman with feminine traits could be a badass and it’s a shame so many people overlook it.
The reading scene sounds cringey. Likely political inspiration aside, I don't remember the villagers being hostile to Belle in the animated film. Why would she live there if they openly sabotage her work?
The worst change is the absolutely wooden performance of Belle’s “I want Adventure in the Great Wide Somewhwre” in the live action. LIKE WHAT WAS THAT? That was the most epic, heartfelt cry for something more in the animation. That is my favorite scene from the original and it is completely BUTchered in the live action. No epic run across a golden field with dandelion fuzz, no moving of the arms and gesturing to the wide world, no breeze carrying the dandelion seeds away. Just Emma Watson standing on a hill with no expression, no feeling, staring off at a black sky rather than a sunset.
They owe Paige O’Hara an apology for that alone. God, it was so bad. They should have just gotten Anne Hathaway, who can sing, rather than Emma Watson, who can’t.
Emma Watson doesn't have the character complexity of Belle. Belle can be strong yet loving, daydreaming yet wise, independent yet still feminine. Emma is just... this masculine tomboyish girl who thinks feminism is all about being like a man. She has no rather paradoxical characteristics that make her interesting. And she CANNOT act.
She can act, but that confident feminist side of her is seen in her role as Hermione in Harry Potter series, she took some of Ron's most importaint lines and was shown as a perfect to be a rolemodel to younger girls, while Hermione in books was not that emotionaly inteligent, a little anoying and a lot of people would roll their eyes when they see her. That might be directors' fault but she probably thought that that is how you should portray independence and strong personality since she grew up acting like that in HP movies
The room scene too! In the animated film, the Beast specifically gives Belle a room, rather than making her stay in the tower. It's a glimmer of his kindness right after he feels guilty (and shows it) about sending her father away. In the live action film, Lumiere is the one who gives her a bedroom and kindness, but Lumiere isn't the one learning any lessons here. It's the first gesture of "kindness" the Beast shows to Belle and they completely took it out.
The funniest part about the patriarchy hating how Belle likes to teach little girls how to read is that the original freakin' novel was published in a magazine _for women._ They broke the historical timeline just to add a bad sjw moment X'D Freakin' Jane Austen was around during BnB's time period and you're telling me that the whole village is obsessed with how Belle is teaching kids to read?
also as someone whose country has and is still grappling with actual issues on education women in rural areas with heavy patriarchal influence, its infuriating to see First world movie productions making a mockery of the issue with their barely attempting to capture the nuance of women and education to begin with. In my country, we know if a girl wants to be educated in a rural society back in the day she won't be openly making engineering stuff and teaching servants to teach near community watering hole. The girls in such situation try to escape their community to cities or better villages and towns. Opposition against women education is far more pervasive and insidious than just bullying a woman by dirtying her laundry LMAO. Actual oppressed for education Belle wouldn't dare to read anything out in the open or show off her invention at all or try to pass it off via her dad . Her desire for seeing the world could have been turned into not just a dream but actual necessity to pursue her rights and passion. So when the Beast without any guile just gives her access to a Library she would see he is more than just a narrow minded provincial asshole which she has seen her whole life if not the most sweetest thing , i guess . There is noble qualities to him ( see there is a way to make fake sjw agenda into a sincere meta storyline if one thinks for 2 seconds which no one did i guess)
Also, judging by that girl’s clothes, she would have already known how to read. Contrary to what Hollywood wants you to believe, women reading in that time period wasn’t uncommon. Even the poorest girl learned how to read in some form to do daily functions, like cooking. Women were expected to read as much as men were because it prepared women for running a household and raising children.
From how you explained it, it feels like they wanted to put politics into the story. Instead of exploring the fantastical and emotional side of it. Belle as an inventor, that feels awfully like pushing the women can also be engineers line. So that makes me think, if they had explored that further, they could have made a more geeky Belle than the one we know from the cartoon. Knee deep in elbow grease. More quality of life inventions based on a first design this being the rolling barrel or something else, also her search for more knowledge through reading. I don't know, I think that can also be made cute and attractive, and would have given us an alternate character for Belle. Now, I haven't seen the movie yet. Just my 2 cents from your description. :)
I haven't seen the live action one either (nor do I particularly want to), but your description of a geekier Belle sounds far more interesting. Give her some eyeglasses to complete the ensemble and I'd be wholly on board.
Alice M. I think you've kind of hit on the problem her Alice. The changes to Belle aren't bad, they just don't work here because that's essentially all they've changed and they only made the changes at the surface level. They shoehorned a new Belle into the old story, and weren't able to really fully flesh out the changes because she has to fit into all of the existing plot points.
I’d love the idea for geeky belle. It kind of makes sense since her father is so geeky too! Her father is an inventor too! It’ll make lots of really cute scenes with beast and belle too.
An alternative steampunk-ish Beauty and the Beast (not like the lunar Chronicles, no shade) would be so neat and work with how the staff are almost mechanical and all.. Only to wish
Did anyone else look at her first "escape plan" and think she's going to try and climb down a icy tower with ribbons of fabric, not even checking if it would hold her weight, at night and this is suppose to make her seem smarter?
Also, instead of holding her ground ready for any defensive maneuver in a better lit patch of the dungeon to know what she's going up against, she recklessly decided to stride face first into the dark only knowing that there's an inhuman figure almost twice her size. She's more brash, aggressive and makes her look even cockier than Gaston. Also also, in such a tense scene, she decides to take the initiative without considering that Beast might not appreciate someone that by attitude can come off as a threat of getting a potential burn with her torch and he could end her right then and there.
@@bassyboi581 The original Beast would've accidentally thrown her off the edge because of instinct and/or rage because she shoved fire in his face, but this is the "My condition is more of an inconvenience than something slowly destroying my humanity." Beast so he was more annoyed than threatening.
@@CoolG97 Truly, no justice on this world. But seriously though, they also could have done a lil scarier angle even though he's annoyed. He looks like me when my parents start telling embarrassing stories about me
@@bassyboi581 Well that would've made him intimidating and we can't have that because it might make him unlikable, so instead he's an even bigger douche than Gaston but not half as charming. (He and Watson!Belle deserve each-other.)
Omg I didn't know you could see into the future? That's so cool, tell me more all about the movie where LILY COLLINS definitely did a much better job 🤦♀️
For me, casting a Belle would have been so goddamn difficult. She is on another level. She walks, looks and talks with such grace and kindness, it’s unreal. Casting someone who could be so tender yet bold when needed would have been so hard but Emma Watson just wasn’t it. At all. She seems to cold to me, she doesn’t have any life or sweetness in her eyes.
I think a dancer or a Broadway comedian would have been better for the role to express grace in a human way. By the way, Lily James and Amy Adams were good when they played a Disney princess.
The biggest issue is I had was that Emma Watson's voice wasn't nearly as strong as the original. The softer ballads sound pleasant but Watson can't pull off those powerful moments that the music calls for. Though I will say I enjoyed Dan Stevens portrayal of the beast. I agree that the library scene was a bit of a thud but overall think Stevens brought a level of sarcastic charm to the beast that was similar original. Not to mention the beasts solo was my favorite song from the new movie. It was full of so much emotion and it make me cry. Also, dan Stevens is way hotter in human form than Adam from the animated movie...
It should be the director you hate, Emma is the actor and you have the director. Think of it like a dollhouse, Emma does what she's told to do based by the script. Emma doesn't decide I think I should teach this girl how to read. Or, I think I need to walk like I own the place.
I think there's a fine line between performance and a script. Let's admit it, even if Emma was to do the same things in the script profoundly she’d still get hate just because everyone assumes she's ever too much of a feminist, too much of a Hermione Granger, too popular they could've gave it to anyone
@@aurorthia8199 Nah, Emma had control over her expressions, poise, and portrayal of belle. I've read she even had control over the writer and the dress designer as well. People including me were elated at hearing that she'll be playing Belle since we expected she suits her, but after watching the movie, we were devastated and disappointed. Emma was just playing Emma in Belle's dress, she wasn't really Belle. So no, more people would've appreciated Belle if Emma portrayed her better.
You can blame Emma Watson for most of the jarring changes. She explained in interviews she told the producers how to "improve" upon Bell. Ultimately it was just a crappy attempt to mold her into a feminist ideal to further her SJW agenda. It's sad. First Ghost Busters, and now classic Disney films
Political ideology aside, it's insulting that someone can take the source material and assume they can do a better job. Like Kitetales ends with, how can you improve a perfect character?
I'm not at all fan of Emma Watson or her kind if feminism or her portrayal of Belle but like when you use the term 'sjw' in a derogatory way like, why is it bad to care about social justice?
Social justice tends to be about the identity of the group someone is in, rather than the individual themselves. "You" are not important. Your race/gender/sexual orientation/religion/ethnicity/etc. is what's important.
This just reinforces the fact that Emma Watson was a horrible choice for this role. She obviously didn't care for the original at all, and I guarantee you they only picked her because her role in Harry Potter made her well known. That's literally all she's really known for in any significant way.
Her ego is just way too big for her own good. Putting feminist propaganda in a beloved classic like Beauty and the beast to push her political stances is a real insult to many fans of this wonderful movie.
I like how you were able to state the things that were bothering you, and to do it without attacking anyone. It sounds like a lot of your concerns are the same reasons that I haven't seen any of Disney's live-action remakes since they started the whole trend. I feel like the people at Disney (and most movie studios, for that matter) don't understand what made their classic movies so powerful and memorable in the first place. So instead of trying to recreate that feeling of wonder and light-hearted fantasy that the originals had, they try to ground these fairy tales in pessimistic realism. Among other things, this apparently means that characters have to be low-energy and nonchalant so that audiences don't see them as naive, serious and heartfelt moments need jokes to keep them from being awkward, and a woman has to be a tad bit aggressive and emotionally detached before she can be considered a strong female protagonist. You know, kind of like how some people think of reality. I want to say that I commend Disney for trying, but the truth is... I wish they hadn't. I wish they would let the classics stand on their own, leave them be, and try telling more new stories. Oh well.
LamanKnight you could just as easily have said that to Disney when they made the original film. Leave it alone and how dare you change anything. I don't think they've changed enough here, and that's the actual failing.
These classic movies don’t need remakes. To me, this is Disney running out of ideas and rehashing the movies we love but taking out everything we loved about them.
spemka Yeah, Mona Bohamad2 is absolutely unlikeable because she is a hypocritical (she calls people haters for not liking Hollywood remakes, but I’m sure that would make HER the hater) cyberbully that thinks everything about her should be criticized.
I despise this movie with all my heart 😔. The biggest disappointment out of the whole film to me was the dance sequence. In the cartoon it is set up to be a romantic date between belle and the beast and the build up to it was for the beast to confess his feelings. They had dinner, an intimate dance together, and relaxed afterwards under the stars. It was so romantic and just makes you feel all fuzzy inside. 💛 The live action however, it just includes the dance scene and that's it. There's no build up or anything that can lead to it naturally. It's just the through process, "well it was in the cartoon so it has to be in the live action too." It felt robotic and awkward between them and it even ended weirdly with them just stopping then walk outside stiffly to just stand and talk. Overall, such a let down 🙄.
Mona Bohamad2 *YOU* ARE ABOUT AS HORRIBLE AND NEGATIVE AS GINGER ROBERTS, 72.224.115.118 FROM LOVE INTEREST WIKI (WHICH HE GOT BANNED FOR FOR BEING A DISRESPECTER) AND MORE OF THE MODERN SONIC FANBASE!!!!!!!!!! EVERYBODY HATES YOU!!!!!!!!
And don't forget when Belle ask the Beast to dance and all his reactions, being so shy and nervous at her and then showing a smile when Belle hugs him♥️♥️. I really wanted to fall in love with this CGI Beast, but I couldn't, it has no feelings at all
Mona Bohamad2 By reputation, I mean it in two ways, “How the majority of people views you” and “the way you are”. And you can fee free to express opinions, you just have to take consideration why people like certain movies over others. You may like at least some live-action remakes, but that doesn’t mean they’re (objectively) underrated.
And belle has a face that looks like very sweet and calming, but Emma have this sharp face like her feature pop a lot more (not saying its ugly) but its just doesnt fit the character. She looks aggressive while belle looks soft calm sweet you know?
I love your review and i honestly have tears forming in my eyes towards the end...you pointed out everything that is wrong with the "belle" in the remake. Belle is the most kind hearted princess and one of the strongest too, she is modest and compassionate and she knows how to handle people, the new "belle" is just condescending, they tried to improve her but failed miserably, the new " belle" is not charming at all. She lacks the softness and the kindness of the real belle.
There was no way a movie like this starring Emma Watson wasn't going to have feminist BS shoved into it. Not only is Emma a very wooden actress, she would demand or they would adjust the script on their own to modernize it as well as demonize the time in which the story is set. Nothing people with that ideology touches will be spared from it. It's better to stick with the classics, we'll never get movies like that again.
I agreed with you on the ‘adjust the script to modernize it’ however Emma cant direct a film, that's not her career. I think the directors are taking advantage of the fact she's a feminist in real life and putting it in their film, or my other view was that they were afraid to make belle seem quiet or weak so they adjusted the script and made Emma perform their version of ‘independent’ I honestly feel bad for Emma, all the backlash from the movie is falling on her. People are forgetting who is in control, she acts what she is given. But yeah I agree with you
I prefer live action movies that change the story instead of trying to make them "better" such as Maleficent and Alice in wonderland because its not the same story being told in a worse way its a different movie that can expand on the law from the original
i love emma and i think she's an amazing actress, but yesssss i really want to see lily collins as belle cuz i always imagined her (lily) as belle in my mind
At first i thought you said Lily James and i was like NAWW! then when i realized you said lily collins i looked at an image of her and i was like YASSS! too bad shes not french tho :(
One of my biggest issues with the movie was that they explain the Beast's backstory pretty well in the beginning, but when it came time to explain how he got that way, they blamed everything on his dad...What?? they blamed the Pre-Beast attitude on his dad, (a character with no lines and little reference, but we know is bad because his portrait was ripped up and he took his son out of the room with his wife's corpse in it.) it couldn't have been that he got orphaned at a young age and the staff more or less spoiled him into his adult years so he never had to really mature. Wouldn't that make more sense with the line about how members of the staff felt that they shared blame for the curse. Other issues- 1.Emma Waston getting the role, Belle felt too much like Herimoine. 2.Timeline, it's always winter at the castle now, this whole story could happen over a the course of a week for all we know. 3.Gaston being more likable than Belle and that completely new character serving as his lackey that is like the original in name only (I also felt said character was missed cast.) 4.Implying that Belle was odd because she could read and not because she DID nothing but read. 5.Towns people seemingly being more mad about a girl be taught to read and not that Belle brought a Donkey into an area for washing clothes that probably isn't suppose to have farm animals in it.
Great analysis. When I was a kid Belle was my most beloved princess because of her kindness, love for books and the fact that Beast’s appearance didn’t stopped her from falling in love with him. And this version...they did my girl dirty. That’s not Belle - that’s Emma Watson 🤦
No matter how I used to love Emma Watson, her performance in this movie made me realized she's not that good of an actress or artist. She clearly did not research the character or the time period. *sigh
For me, the most painful thing they took away from Belle was her breaking Beast’s curse. In the original, she says she loves him just before the last pedal falls. In the live action she doesn’t say it in time and the enchantress breaks the curse anyway... It takes away her main purpose and makes her love feel cheep or that it doesn’t matter. Sure, it was heartbreaking to watch the servants change into non-living objects but it takes away from the theme of the movie.
It seems like an attempt at giving Belle a bit more agency but it amounts to it not being the same character. This is a problem with most of the characters in the film really. I especially hate the changes to the Beast.
John Garza which was a welcome change from for me. I see no reason to ever hope she would be exactly the same. If I wanted the same, I'd stick with the original. I really liked that they gave her more agency, but was left disappointed overall because the rest of the film is so similar that I see no reason to ever revisit this one again. The changes to Belle aren't enough for me to justify watching this version over the animated version next time I'm in the mood for BatB.
Emma Watson doesn't have the warmth, tenderness and sweetness of animated Belle. Animated Belle is strong, independent, educated, knows what she wants, makes her own choices, and doesn't allow anyone to bully her. As a woman I'm tired of this trope that a feminine, gentle, nurturing woman cannot be strong and brave and her own person at the same time. It is also ridiculous to present the villagers as hostile to women who read, when the original story is written by an 18th century woman. Actually, two 18th century women, and the intended audience were 18th century girls, who were taught to read. Besides, the CGI Beast lacks the charm and charisma of the Beast in the animated version. CGI is nearly expressionless. Well, so is Emma Watson in this role.
When I first heard about the live action Beauty and The Beast I really wanted Emily Rossum to play Belle. She not only has the looks down pat but she also has a similar charm about her that just screams cartoon Belle.
people should finally understand that being feminine and empathic doesn't exclude being strong and brave. also you can be a feminist and wear a skirt and pink blouse.
The scene that always bothered me was when the beast asks belle if she is happy with him. In the animated movie she says that she is but she misses her father. In the 2017 she says “can anyone be happy unless they’re free?” I took that’s as belle didn’t love the beast.
Another moment I saw based on a clip I saw was the breakfast scene. 1991: The Beast slobbers away and Belle is put off by it. The Beast reconsiders and tries to eat with a spoon. After failing to do so - beast paws don’t allow for fine dexterity =] - Belle offers to drink from the bowl and the Beast follows in turn. That is a beautifully simple way to show the give and take between them and how their relationship deepened. (And there’s a nice payoff later where at the ballroom dinner … the Beast is indeed eating using silverware, showing how much effort *he* has made to improve himself.) 2017: Instead of that tender understanding, Emma reluctantly puts down her spoon and makes the gesture to drink from the bowl. Based on other clips, she comes off more like a school marm scolding a kid for not reciting his time tables correctly whilst interacting with the Beast. In fact, the Objects actually reveal the spell aside from what could end it. This comes off, to me, like she was doing what she was doing deliberately to help *them*, not the Beast. Really, it should be retitled: Emma Watson and the Enchanted Objects.
Beautifully said, and yes it’s incredible how that little scene in the original movie conveyed so much about their relationship and the importance of compromise and love. Your alternate movie title is spot on!
I think they wanted to create a strong and independent character. Belle is indeed strong but her main personality threats are a soft heart and intelligence. By the way, my top three disney princesses are 1.Mulan 2.Belle 3.Merida
Thank you!!! I can’t count the numerous arguments I’ve had with people who say Emma was the perfect Belle. To me, there was hardly any of Belle’s personality, kindness and gentleness at all. Another scene I always point out is the segway to the Belle (reprise). Gaston comes off as pretty understandable. He doesn’t push Belle. He’s concerned about her wellbeing once Maurice dies. She is so cold and rude and it literally comes out of nowhere, just so you think there’s a catalyst for Belle to start singing (if you can call it that) “Madame Gaston” etc. It upset me so much how badly Emma Watson was cast in the role. Beauty and the Beast is my favourite movie and musical theatre Dream role that I will finally be tackling once COVID ends. I wish they had kept to the musical libretto. It’s pretty much perfect, just like the original movie.
I started crying as you were describing the scene in the animated movie where the Beast gifts Belle the library and then I started crying even more when you described the death scene, especially because I started to imagine the score to the movie when you mentioned it. It's gotta be like my favorite score in any animated movie. Not only are the live action remake films bad, but they're worse, they're insulting to me as an animation enthusiast. They're insulting to generations of animators whose lives work were these original films. I know new content doesn't delete the original, but I can't help but feel like when Disney's cranking out all these remakes, they're brushing the originals under the rug, and also as well, proving to the majority that animation is only for kids when we should be highlighting how animation is a medium that can be used to create a masterpiece. Beauty and the Beast was groundbreaking when it came out. It was the first animated film to be nominated for best picture at the Oscars, showing that the ideals of animated movies being lesser movies for kids were changing. Now adays, Disney's just spitting out these remakes because people who grew up with them are adults now and they'll make money on the nostalgia factor. But this also promotes the idea to society that "oh this is the adult one because it's not a carton". It even has a longer running time, but for what? Several pointless filler moments just to make the movie longer for older audiences. But getting back to the point, it's just not fair that this is the character people see when they think Belle now, and don't even get me started on Lion King. Luckily, Walt Disney Animation Studios, the studio that started it all, is giving us hope. Because of nostalgia factor again, WDAS released Ralph Breaks the Internet and then Frozen 2, which aren't their best, but I personally enjoy watching them, however, it worried me that WDAS released two sequels in a row when their first and only sequel created before these two was The Rescuers Down Under in 1990. But my point was, WDAS is giving me hope because of their future releases, they have good intentions and know what they're doing and they're upcoming film looks amazing. They were also on a huge hot streak with their original films in the 2010's, Tangled, Wreck-it-Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and then Zootopia and Moana, both in THE SAME FREAKING YEAR! and with their new wave of original films coming soon, they're gonna show future generations what Beauty and the Beast showed us.
Unpopular opinion: Emma Watson can’t, and never could act. People adore her and see her through rose tinted glasses because she was in one of the most beloved franchises of all time, and she’s stunningly beautiful.
Great review Kite. The more I hear about the live action version, the happier I am that I decided to pass on it. It was bad enough that they had to auto-tune Emma Watson, but the fact that they also flubbed up her character so much is just heartbreaking. I'm a life long fan of the original as well as the stage version. I had high hopes for the live action version, and it's heartbreaking to hear they didn't even seem to understand their own characters.
yes...watched it ,totally agree with you kite... what is Disney doing with the live action versions of their animated classics???..why?? wasting these lovely IP
There's also the fact that she refused to wear a corset for the film even though it's just a historically accurate costume and had nothing to do with feminism
exactly. Corsets are just extended bras. They're not meant to be restrictive. In fact, it's supposed to help with a person's posture, as well as in assisting the person with the heaviness of the gown. I mean look at Emma, her posture was REALLY bad in the movie. I mean I would've respected Emma more if she just personally decided not to wear a corset, but the fact that she had to make a woke statement about it is just a reach.
Honestly I feel like Watson didn't portray Belle to act like Belle, but she portrayed Belle to act like her- she made Belle not as feminist, she made Belle more headstrong, etc.
I ended up still really liking the live action beauty and the beast but what I really did miss was the library scene, the beast was so cute when he wanted to show it to her and it’s kinda the moment you start to love his character. His facial expressions are so adorable. The scene in the live action was fine but it just didn’t have the same charm. Also, I like Emma Watson as an actress (even tho I don’t like her politics) but when you watch the movie you are very aware you are watching emma Watson and not just Belle. That’s why it’s nice to use lesser know actresses like Lily James in Cinderella.
The main way that their relationship developed in the live action movie was through exposition. The servants telling her how great the Beast is. They are desperate to break the spell before it’s permanent so it seems insincere. Not to mention Belle and Beast are both are fighting the original story, not grasping what drew these characters together. In the animated version, it is very organic and emotional.
To be fair, Gaston in the original had a line where he was saying “when a woman starts to read she starts getting ideas and thinking” as if it was horrific.
Belle in the animated movie was already strength and beauty herself. Sadly, the live action version tried to over emphasize it in the wrong sense,in my opinion.
isabella I understand the concern, but a lot of it was just an optical illusion. Big sleeves and a HUGE skirt make the already naturally small waist look smaller than it is. And as far as I know the actress wore the corset of her own free will.
“Little town...Full of little people” “To this poor provincial town” “There must be more than this provincial life!” Belle never thought highly of her town and constantly made snide remarks when she was singing
SAME!!!!😍😍🙏🏼 thank you! I feel just the same, you put it so perfectly. I also have issues with the way they handled Gaston. The library & death scenes are my big points too... I prefer the OG sooooo much more and always will. The animated movie is my all-time favorite movie 🎥♥️
Oh my god I love you! I can't believe I just now discovered your videos! THANK YOU!! I tried twice to watch the live action! The first time I couldn't make it after ten minutes and I pushed myself to watch all of it because I couldn't fully hate it without having see it. You just took my feelings for these movies and vocalised them! THANK YOU! EXACTLY!
You have such a beautiful and gentle soul. It completely shows in the way that you speak about it❤️. You completely understand my viewpoint about the film. Belle was so full of love and grace. She’s one of my biggest role models
Emma Watson always has this arrogant look in her face, like she's better than everyone, smarter. Belle was geeky girl, she was so into books she's reading, she was losing her connections with society and reality, like a dreamer. Never she was bratty and pride with her knowledge.The same problem with Hermione, Type A who needs to put everyone down or nurture them like a mom, always be bored and angry. Book Hermione was socially awkward kid, who doesn't like injustice, she was doing things and charity work for house elves rights, she was stubborn to the point not believing in Harry when he was right, because she was afraid of irrational things, Luna actually put Hermione in her place and was shown as more mature and wiser character than her but movie was biasing over Emma to the point where Harry and Ron lost their book identities, speech, words and intelligence.
I Dont even know where to start here, let's start with the basics. Emma is an actress if you didn't know and she acts in movies, Hermione Granger is a character in the Harry Potter franchise, Emma Watson plays this character and, oo remember when I said she ‘plays’ this character... That must be interesting for you... Anyway moving on to the movie, did you know there's a thing called directors who make scripts for films, yeah it's cool, but the actors/actresses don't write the scripts! Next did you know Emma looks at the script and performs what she is told... Must be a shocker who would've thought an actor had to act the script and doesn't make their own decisions, bummer. Next, did you know facial expressions can be scripted too... For example (belle smirks whilst walking slowly away) so cool isn't it. Oh and one last thing, Emma watson hasn't stole Hermione Granger's soul, so you can stop pretending beauty and the beast is harry potter and that Hermione Granger is a fictional character who Emma portrays in the HP franchise, goodbye hope u feel educated
@@aurorthia8199 you must be sophisticated one in parties, are you. I don't need to be reminded of those utterly shallow and predictable words to describe what actress is and what she can do. Of course a lot of work went to directors, but are you sure now that she's that good of an actress if she only does what director says. Ironically she had balls to get whiny and bratty because she's such a feminist to the point of not doing what costume designers and directors says to her during filming of Beauty and the Beast. My point is actress is corrupted by her fame of being most pretty and one of the richest child actors in Britain. She wishes she would be as talented and hard working as Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliffe but she's not, she's playing same characters,she puts same mimics on her face and satisfied by it. But keep deny that because actress has super cute face you like so you're allowing yourself to have bias toward her, hope you feel E D U C A T E D.
@@thomaszloi9444 also quick add on bec of the bs you started adding, if Emma Watson thinks such costume as a corset makes her feel uncomfortable and you have a problem with that..,then you can also start hating on Jennifer Lawrence as she refused to stop being painted to look like Raven in X-men as it made her feel uncomfortable.
@@aurorthia8199 I don't care about Lawrence in first place why would you bring her to this topic. Life is uncomfortable maybe you shouldn't be actress if you can't do such thing or just don't participate in such role
The original belle was still kind and just loved to read. The townspeople thought she was a bit odd but that was it. Emma Watson goes around practically shouting in people's faces "I'm better than you", and they turn her into a strong feminist disdainful character. It wasn't a good portrayal of belle nor feminism, I really hated her in the live action movie.
I get what you mean, but Disney controls what Emma says, acts, does.. In this position think of yourself as Emma. You are aware this is a boost for your career, you know the story of beauty and the beast but realise Disney is making everything seem as if it needs independence. She gets all the backlash it saddens me.
Other scenes that were changed from the original version that I didn’t like: • Gaston asking belle to dinner (to which she declines) and when she asks if she is busy she says “No…” before walking off with a disgusted look on her face. Belle was always polite to Gaston in the beginning even though she didn’t like him. • Belle pulling Phillipee’s reins roughly and demanding him to “take me to him” instead of calming him down and saying worriedly “you have to take me to him.” • Belle saying she’d “starve before I ever ate with you” instead of her polite but firm response of “no thank you.” Again like the first interaction with Gaston she is never rude in the original animation version and that shows strength! • Belle storming out MAD after the beast yelled at her for going into the West Wing. Girl this is his home and he told you not to go into there, he has every right to be mad! (I also don’t like here line of “getting out of here!” but it makes sense because they cut the whole “you have my word” scene in the Dungeon). • Belle reluctantly setting down her spoon and sipping her soup all with out showing she is doing it as a way to show kindness to The Beast • Belle saying “can anyone be happy if they aren’t free?” instead of the “yes” followed up by a sad smile that The Beast immediately picks up on and asks her about. Having Belle tell The Beast she was happy in the animated film was very powerful because The Beast didn’t NEED to do anything else to make her happy but he SAW and CHOSE to do something that would make her happier. • The Beast not getting to say “because…i love her.” The whole reason The Beast was cursed in the first place was so that he could learn to love and having him verbalize that he has indeed learned that lesson was so powerful.
Bravo! Interesting that they changed a things that were not that subtle to begin with. Belle tending to Beast wounds and the ending are not small scenes. Seems like this movie was made with the focus group mentality instead of having an authentic feel. Which is probably my biggest complain about remakes.
As a kid I connected with Ariel the most, because she disobeyed her parents to get what she wanted and I hated my parents. BUT I always loved Belle. To me she seemed older, like in her later 20's and possibly in her time seen as almost a spinster. But she was fine with that. She wasn't looking for a husband, she was looking for someone as smart as she was to talk to, to spend time with. To me she felt taller than most girls, on the less beautiful side (for a Disney girl) -- almost plain. But she had such a sweet and kind disposition that people couldn't help but be drawn to her. Emma Watson is a fine actress, but she's not Belle. She's too short, too skinny, and her face is too sharp. Belle never struck me as "skinny" she seemed to have full curves and a rounder face. She seemed almost motherly, or like a big sister. As for Emma's voice, they should have just dubbed her over if she was really so bad they had to use THAT MUCH autotune. I bet her voice wasn't even that bad but Disney had to over do it.
The animated movie was a touching story about how an immature and selfish man learned to be kind and to love, and an intelligent, kind, and strong minded woman learned to love him in return. The live-action movie was Stockholm syndrome.
2:11 Oh, I love this shot. They agree and she immediately collapses to her knees. The way her cloak and the beast’s cloak move in this single shot is so dramatic.
Your passion and love for the animated film shows so much, while still being polite in your criticism of the live action version.
And this is why KiteTales & Flex deserves much better than MonaBohamad2.
Because while MonaBohamad2 slammed the Disney Renaissance films (ex: called them “pointless” and “popular because of haters”) in favour of their remakes, KiteTales & Flex acknowledges that even though she was gonna be as kind to the remake as possible for what a total cash-grab it is, it doesn’t change that she at least has a very passionate take on the original and acknowledged that it’s unarguably superior.
Emerald Oracle I can’t do it the live action is so bad 😂
@@dandycandy5813 come on, it will just make you love the original that much more 🤣
Agree
Honestly beast in the original one is so adorable like a big puppy.. the second one is like a pompous arrogant cat man creature
Yeah I agree with you
Broadway Beast was even more adorable, if that's even possible. Unlike the live action movie, the stage play expanded on the characters instead of changing them.
The original beast looks like a human male lion but very sad and kind looking when you look into his eyes
Anyway he is very handsome i would say
A wolf-bear monster. IN A CAPE
@@atlascalliopecharon A fellow Starkid fan, I see 😂
Belle teaching that girl to read made no sense because girls in that social class (judging by the girl’s clothes) already knew how. They had books, pamphlets, and magazines for women and girls. Women reading in 1700s France wasn’t some revolutionary, empowered thing. They were expected to read and write for basic needs. Granted, not everyone in that time could read and write as well as Belle could, but they were taught the basics so they could function in life. Contrary to popular belief, that era wasn’t full of unenlightened people, like Hollywood wants us to believe.
Yup. After all, the author was a woman in that era writing for women in the era. You'd think they'd realise *that* if nothing else. 🤷♀️
To be fair we don't know the exact year Beauty and the Beast takes place in since Disney has never been 100% faithful to the original fairytale. (I think this one was written by Perrault?)
Papa Moomin I think that the Beauty and the Beast’s story was first written in a book by Jeanne Marie Leprince de Beaumont. She was a private French teacher to the family of rich British people (French was fancy at the time) and she used the story to teach the two little girls of the family the language
I recently worked in the regional archives of my town, and MY GOD, the level of schoolgoers in middle to lower income families during the end of the 18th and all of the 19th century was so surprisingly high!
Papa Moomin we actually KNOW the exact time period. If you watch the original movie there is a scene after the banquet song where the clock is taking her around and talk about the architecture of the castle. Based of the name of the style he say we can guess that they are in the renaissance. The movie is actually set in a different time period, as we can clearly guess from the attire of the guests at the ball in the beginning. That kind of puffy, over decorated dresses and the tall and eccentric hairstyles are from the rococò era. The era when Villeneuve write the book (or at least one of the more famous version).
Spot-on analysis. Maybe I've just grown even more cynical over time, but all of those downgraded changes scream "agenda" to me. Why do people seem to think that being kind and nurturing is akin to being weak? If anything, it's the opposite. Wish I had something else to contribute to the conversation, but I think you summed it up quite well.
I completely agree. If anything, I'd say we need more of a focus on kind and gentle characters in this jaded, cynical world of ours.
Agreed. Belle always stood up for herself but never in a way that was mean-spirited towards Beast, even if some might say he deserved it. And while she never mistreated him, she didn't come around to actively liking him until AFTER he stopped being a colossal jerk.
I don't Like Emma Watson feminism much it seems she only cares about certain kinds of women.
I remember when Beast got hurt saving Belle from wolves and she did her best to patch him up. When she was dabbing him with hot water, he yelled in her face but Belle was having none of it. Even though she is kind and nurturing, she’s not afraid to stand up for herself or others that she loves.
@@khfan4life365 Also true. She was assertive when she needed to be. Feminists can't seem to tell the difference between that and acting like a jerk, however.
The changes and additions are probably just to try and show that Belle is a "strong independent woman" who don't need no man.
Pointless and dumb. Especially since, like you said, she was already a perfect character.
The common person with a equilibrate mind alway needs some soulmate. SJWs and Little Snowflakes look to be Hollywood shareholders, may I think.
SirPoofyPants your not really a strong powerful woman if you have to tell everyone every five minutes. A strong person just is strong and doesn’t have to do anything to prove it. Shoving these messages just feels like the creators were too insecure and had little faith in the audience to enjoy any of their films. That’s why we have only gotten moana and frozen as new Disney princesses most recently.. growing up there were so many new amazing films and unique ideas or retelling of other stories in addition to everything else.
Making the new Belle "strong" was such a slap in the face for those of us who identify with the original. The agenda just indirectly told us we're weak and worthless.
@@LadyDragonbane Bell was strong on her own. She literally sacrificed herself to save her dad. She was a very well done character, a lot of people identified with Belle, and Belle was such a feminist icon! But then Emma Watson came in with partly toxic feminism and ruined the image of Belle.
@@isabellaa8773 Yes, exactly!
I liked the animated Belle for being naïve, romantic and feminine. Basically, she knew she was beautiful but she was also very kind and respectful to everyone, beast included. she never really felt abused like in the new movie- she couldn't relate to the beast, yet she loved him and adored him completely.
in the live movie, they made it so that the beast and Belle can relate to each other, because both have this darkness in this lives, both lost their mothers, both feel hated and abused. I miss the old Belle who was so filled with wonder, who didnt have that dejection. she could give so much love because she was secure in herself. she was light and the beast had this brooding dark past. in the new movie, there is no such concept because Emma as Belle herself feels a bit like an odd beast in her town. so that whole concept of Belle saving the beast wasn't there.
the movie aside, you have a most lovely princess like voice!
naive? NAIVE?? what an insult and utter oblivion you must have. she was literally the smartest girl in france. she read books all the time. she was innovative. she didnt fall for the "most handsome guy" in the town that every woman would die for, even when he was begging for her! she was anything but naive. dont ever say that again.
@@billievanderpol Lol, I think Mary Thomas meant the part of naive's definition that says "natural and unaffected, innocent," I think she's saying she was childlike, sincere, and sweet, I call that a compliment. You are right, Belle is very wise, and pairing that with her feminine sweetness described by MT as naivete makes for a great character.
@@billievanderpol she wasn’t the smartest women in france, that’s a reach. She read but mostly romance/adventure because those were what she wanted.
Also, while Belle was kind and caring, she was also firm when she needed to be. She wasn’t afraid to stand up for herself and others. After the Belle number, Gaston and LeFou insult Maurice and Belle snaps at them for insulting her father. In the scene when she’s cleaning Beast’s wounds, she doesn’t let him walk all over her. When he roars and yells at her, she chides him for not controlling his temper. Later, we see that same strength when she yells at Gaston for insulting the Beast. Just because she’s not kicking ass and taking names doesn’t mean she’s not strong in her own way.
@@billievanderpol Smartest girl in France? You're ignorantly generalizing all bibliophiles. The animated version clearly shows that Belle loves reading fairytales or anything that sparks her imagination, fuels her desire for adventure, and enriches her inner world. She's an idealist and a daydreamer. It's time to stop this silly stereotype that every book lover is some scholarly "Hermione Granger" clone.
And Mary Thomas is correct. Belle IS naive. She's a true innocent. This quality is extremely evident when she showed the townspeople the image of the Beast through the mirror. She's so gullible that she thinks that the crowd will be completely openminded about the whole thing. The last thing she imagined was for them freak out and to turn into a bloodthirsty mob. If that isn't a classic example naïveté, then I don't know what is.
They were trying to make Belle more assertive in the remake, instead of displaying that quiet strength she had in the original. In the end, they wrecked the character. I HATED the Live Action Remake of this movie.
I think the biggest (or at least most notable) issue was that Watson cannot do facial expressions. Every time a scene called for a certain expression, she had one that was completely off, if not the exact opposite. It's bad when a CG character called "Beast" looks more human than you do.
In other words compare to the facial expressions of Mass Effect Andromeda's female Ryder.
Mathmachine she does a good richard dawkins impersonation though
she's a bad actress point blank
The ballroom one she barley smiled and mostly was like :/ or mostly like she was uncomfortable to even be there
Yess.
Emma's sad face: 🙁
Emma's happy face:🙂
Emma's scared face:😦
Emma's in love face: 🙂
Emma's curious face: 🙃
Emma's angry face: 😑
emma had no grace when walking like belle did, she practically stomped or just simply walked
From the director of The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, folks.
One thing the Twilight pentalogy is better-known for is its strong criticisms, but I’ll give the Twilight films this; when I go through them, it makes the movie ironically funny, meaning Twilight is actually so-bad-it’s-good (a Hilariocity, if you will).
While with the B&tB remake, it’s very bad (not a massive step-up from Belle’s Magical World at all), and not in a good way. It’s just turning one of many’s favourite classics in cinema and bastardizing it so much that we may need Don Bluth to join forces with Disney (rather than make people think it is a Disney movie like with Thumbelina) be able to remake the film into its former glory.
Kieran Stark - i 100% agree with you except that i actually think Kristen suited the part as Bella because of the actual atmosphere of the movie being quite dull and not filled with intense emotions as B&TB had. just my opinion though, and you’re right about enjoying the twilight saga; it was actually entertaining
Kieran Stark - i 100% agree with you. with twilight, i just don’t see someone else playing Bella’s part other than Kristen, it just feels off. however with Belle, i could name so many underrated actors who would’ve slayed her part perfectly and taking the time to adapt her mannerisms and personality.
Kieran Stark - also i feel like Emma turned Belle into some tomboy that is independent and strong minded when Belle is a quite a quiet, polite and opinionated person. she had etiquette and grace when doing everything, she wasn’t like a feminist like the movie almost portrayed her to be.
Even though you actually like Twilight, it’s always perfectly understandable why not everyone is going to like (or even tolerate it).
But hey, let’s all just be be lucky it’s...
STILL A BETTER LOVE STORY (or in this case, pentalogy) THAN BAYFORMERS (except Transformers: Age of Extinction since while I do see why many people dislike it, I also see why some other people like Bobsheaux would even defend it. So, it is a guilty pleasure, while the rest of the Bayformers films, I proudly slammed the Mona Bohamad2 for defending from Bobsheaux, The Blockbuster Buster and AnIMat).
With that said, my beef with Lindsay Ellis is that she made bashers of both pentalogies look more annoying, unsophisticated and cowardly than their praisers in essays like “Dear Stephanie Meyer” and “The Whole Play” series where she’s been telling people to stop praising the Fast and the Furious video so much because it would make them look like hypocrites since she acted like Michael Bay films and Twilight films are not much different from Fast & Furious yet they get all the hate yet people like the Fast & Furious series for SOME reasons (looks like she’s gonna have to watch The Cosmonaut Variety Hour, Bobsheaux and Cinematic Excrement before she continued insulting the series’ audience)!
Heck, even Ice Age is a superior film pentalogy because at least it was strong in the 2000s even though it was a zombie franchise in the 2010s with A Mammothy Christmas, Continental Drift and especially Collision Course (mostly, if not completely, Ice Age is a franchise than got less and less better with every movie. Like, the original is great, The Meltdown is eh, Dawn of the Dinosaurs is the Age of Extinction of Blue Sky Studios, Continental Drift is very subpar and Collision Course is bleh!), whereas in the 2020s, if we really ask for more Ice Age, there could be a reboot that is more like the original; it pretends Continental Drift and Collision Course, my least fav Blue Sky films (as well as Rio 2 and Ferdinand, but if you don’t mind these movies, power to you.) has NEVER happened and only acts like Ice Age the stand-alone movie it could’ve been the whole time.
I hate how Watson thought that Belle not insisting on cleaning the wounds, her forcing the light on the beast, and her tricking her father and shoving him was “feminist” and not “douche bag” and, yes, I AM pinning this all on Watson. She got cast before a writer was even attached and the writer so happened to her her friend who wrote perks of being a wallflower. I remember an interview saying that she chose the writer and it boggles my mind why would Disney give Emma that much control. They’ve had Hollywood legends that weren’t as finicky or controlling and yet...they caved for Watson??
JAKE Bantilan And she was the one who wondered why she was called bossy as a kid
Watson comes off as a diva to me. I don't think she's a particularly great actress, and I wish they had cast someone more fitting for this role because she neither looks or acts like the character. It eludes me how she became this popular.
ADT116 She only got casted because she was popular in Harry Potter, and she’s gives people nostalgia.
Even if your comment is legit, I would not be unhappy that a woman have some control on the movie she is playing in. This is such a rare thing.
Rebecca Aliberti exactly she’s amazing
Knowing Emma Watson's political ideology, assuming she had any say into the matter, I would say that they were trying to remove aspects of Bell's personality that were deemed too delicate or not assertive enough.These days no female protagonists can show any frail traits, or any character flaws whatever.
I know! If anything THATS misogynistic 🙄
Flaws? I don't think frail traits are flaws
Cyanvaya yep cause being gentle and kind is somehow a flaw nowadays
@@kellyc7902 that's sad. 😞
I also hate it when people consider cinderella as useless
The live action Beast and Belle has absolutely no chemistry ...it was painful to watch . The movie lacked romance and magic . When the feather duster became human was my favorite part because she was shunning.
I have almost always been a fan of 24 Frames of Nick except for when he made “Frozen 2 is Terrible, Stop Lying” with a “Hotel Transylvania films and Frozen 1 are the best, stop lying” beginning and said that Anna and Elsa has no chemistry with each other, but he never complained that Beauty and the Beast (late 2010s remake) characters like the titular “protagonists” Belle and Beast had much less chemistry.
Granted, Frozen II does have its fair share of weaknesses, but compared to other movies of last year like Toy Story 4, Arctic Dogs, The Queen’s Corgi, Abominable, The Secret Life of Pets 2, Playmobil the Movie, Uglydolls, The Addams Family, The Lion King and Uglydolls, it looks like The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (which means that The Lego Movie 2 is my favourite animation of one of my least favourite years of animation up to the ranks of 2013, though Spies in Disguise and How to Train Your Dragon 3, even though it feels more underwhelming than its hard-to-top-in-terms-of-high-quality predecessors, come close and are the only other ones I found to be great).
It’s sad when the sleeping wardrobe and the piano with no teeth have more chemistry and love in their relationship then the main two characters of Belle and the Beast
The live end death scene had no emotion because it lacked the buildup of belle falling in love.... watson took out all the reasons why Belle fell in love and basically fell in love with him because he was the big bad jock who treated her poorly
For me the animated was a shorter film but said a lot more with its wonderful simplicity. That simplicity created an emotional complexity that you wanted more of but the live action had NONE of that. No chemistry no emotional buildup at all. I was so sad. Beast didn’t learn anything or earn his transformation in the live action. It was so devoid of heart and intention. BRING BACK THE MAGIC DISNEY PLEASE!! If you can’t do it right LEAVE MY CLASSICS ALONE! Cinderella was a wonderful reimagining because it wasn’t a senseless copy. This was
Honestly it was just Emma Watson playing Emma Watson dressed up as Belle
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To me, she was playing Hermione Granger cosplaying as Belle
No matter what anyone says, Watson is never escaping the Hermione Granger label
The Beast surprising Belle with his library is one of the sweetest, thoughtful, and romantic moments I've seen. His reaction to her surprise and joy was so endearingly vulnerable.
So beautiful!
And in the live action instead of a thoughtful gift it was an excuse for the beast to show off and insult her
Another subtle difference that I noticed was the porridge/soup scene. In the original, Belle sees Beast gobbling down his food in a very primitive way. Belle is stunned, but thoughtfully tries to look the other way. Yet, Beast is able to discern Belle's surprise and tries to use a spoon without success. This failure made him very self-conscious and ashamed. So Belle, out of deep compassion and understanding, decides to tactfully find a middle ground by drinking from the bowl...but in a more refined way and the Beast successfully follows suit. In the remake, however, Belle watches Beast with this judgmental/condescending look on her face. She then raises her eyebrows at him, sighs disdainfully, picks up the bowl, and gives him this look that says, "Fine, I guess I'll have to sink to _your_ level and do it _your_ way because I'm _such_ a _good_ person."
Animated Belle displayed profound emotional intelligence. She's aware how vulnerable Beast is at that moment and teaches him without humiliating him. She treats him with dignity and empathy. Also, the way they raised their bowls to acknowledge one another before eating was such a cute moment. Remake Belle, on the otherhand, was just so patronizing and sanctimonious. The whole scene lacks sincerity. That holier-than-thou expression on Emma Watson's face made me want to shove her face right into her tomato soup, to be brutally honest.
Isn't it weird that the animated characters in the original were so much better at non verbal acting than the live action? Total props to the animators of the original. Plus they wanted to actually tell a good story, not just please decades of silly nitpicking and make money.
It's the cult of Hermione/Emma Watson. The perfecting a character to the point that all others pale compared to her. (The hp movies ruin Ron's character to make Hermione better.)
And ever since that she is a one trick pony trying to recapture what made Hermione popular...
They didn’t just ruined Ron. They also ruined Harry and Ginny. The films spent too much time giving Harry and Hermione the sexual tension (that dance scene that never happen in the books) while forgetting to develop romantic feelings between Harry and his WIFE and somehow Harry Potter, the protagonist and titular character, has lower leadership and fighting skills than Hermione.
@@nont18411 Yeah, I feel like Ron being downgraded in the movies is a topic that has been talked to death. There are so many videos highlighting it. But nobody seems to talk about how Harry was also downgraded. His wit, leadership abilities, resourcefulness wasn't shown enough. Like, the dragon escape idea was credited to Hermione, even though it was Harry in the books. Figuring out how to save Sirius was also Harry's achievement which was again given to Hermione in the movies. Emma Watson feels that Hermione is both the head and the heart of the trio. When really I would say that Hermione is the mind, Ron the heart, and Harry is the soul of the trio. They balance each other out.
agreed
well, I thought the film was perfect (hp). but in beauty and the beast, the director failed I guess or maybe I watched the classic animation all the time, and how lively and prompt it was compared to the live one
From what Ive heard Emma Watson even said that she wanted to alter the character because she is a "feminist", so I kinda was expecting this.
Exactly! Because a woman who had a unique personality in her village despite the fact that she had to pay the price of isolation by others, that she obviously rejected or talked back to men when she had to but also being polite when situation required and standing her ground against her entire village to talk about her loved ones was not "feminist enough" for her! It is so sad! Plus the lack of education! She rejected corsets because of her "feminism" without even bothering to see what a corset actually was! The movie was horrible in general but Belle's character was definitely one of the saddest changes for me!
@afootineachworld I think no one understands what feminism is nowadays. They use exactly the same phrases as women of early 20th century used, regardless of context! Right now their "feminism" is only about saying what a terrible world is when men "rule it" and by placing somen who fight in movies. Nowadays is not "feminist enough" unless the woman fights with a sword! There is no originality in movies anymore, not a variety of characters that might not be strong in body but strong in spirit etc. Also by picturing women always as victims even insults me and I am a woman. I believe I am capable for much more than...being a victim to men!
IKR! Like Belle is supposed to be a strong but also caring sweet character but Emma Watson wants to do a complete 180 with the character like NO
that statement is so stupid especially since Belle is definitely a good female role model and definitely a good feminist. You don't need to change her character to make her more "feminist"
She's not a director, that's not her job. If there's proof of this leave a link below.
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I have the feeling that Emma felt like Belle having the beast reveal himself to her made Belle ToO pAsSiVe and her shoving the candle in his face made her more AcTivE and StRoNg
I Don't think the director's name is Emma...Oh right you thought just because Emma is a feminist she made every decision happen in this movie. Sorry but they have directors for a reason. You're forgetting that not every feminist makes things happen in a film whilst ACTING. Yes, Emma Watson is an actress. NOT the director
@@aurorthia8199 it’s the person who played Belle, not the director
I didnt see Emma Watson as Belle at all in this film, she just made me feel like I was watching amateur hour at the local high school. +_0
I’ve seen better performances of Belle in high school theaters. Emma Watson was just terrible.
'belle shoves her father harder than the beast shoved her father' dead 😂
It’s sad that tenderness is seen as weakness. It’s okay to be gentle and kind toward those you love. Belle may have been peppy and gentle, but she was no pushover, she always stood up for herself. Belle was proof that a woman with feminine traits could be a badass and it’s a shame so many people overlook it.
The reading scene sounds cringey. Likely political inspiration aside, I don't remember the villagers being hostile to Belle in the animated film. Why would she live there if they openly sabotage her work?
The worst change is the absolutely wooden performance of Belle’s “I want Adventure in the Great Wide Somewhwre” in the live action. LIKE WHAT WAS THAT? That was the most epic, heartfelt cry for something more in the animation. That is my favorite scene from the original and it is completely BUTchered in the live action. No epic run across a golden field with dandelion fuzz, no moving of the arms and gesturing to the wide world, no breeze carrying the dandelion seeds away. Just Emma Watson standing on a hill with no expression, no feeling, staring off at a black sky rather than a sunset.
They owe Paige O’Hara an apology for that alone. God, it was so bad. They should have just gotten Anne Hathaway, who can sing, rather than Emma Watson, who can’t.
I agree, however, i Don't think this is emmas performance and it's the script given to her.
Emma Watson doesn't have the character complexity of Belle. Belle can be strong yet loving, daydreaming yet wise, independent yet still feminine. Emma is just... this masculine tomboyish girl who thinks feminism is all about being like a man. She has no rather paradoxical characteristics that make her interesting. And she CANNOT act.
She can act, but this movie was just NOT for her.
I think she acts as long as she doesn't have her word in the plot writing.
She can act, but that confident feminist side of her is seen in her role as Hermione in Harry Potter series, she took some of Ron's most importaint lines and was shown as a perfect to be a rolemodel to younger girls, while Hermione in books was not that emotionaly inteligent, a little anoying and a lot of people would roll their eyes when they see her. That might be directors' fault but she probably thought that that is how you should portray independence and strong personality since she grew up acting like that in HP movies
She CAN NOT sing either
yes! Emma's idea on feminism is literally being anti-femininity and forcing a feminine, strong, feminist to be a FREAKING TOMBOY
The room scene too! In the animated film, the Beast specifically gives Belle a room, rather than making her stay in the tower. It's a glimmer of his kindness right after he feels guilty (and shows it) about sending her father away. In the live action film, Lumiere is the one who gives her a bedroom and kindness, but Lumiere isn't the one learning any lessons here. It's the first gesture of "kindness" the Beast shows to Belle and they completely took it out.
Not to mention Belle slamming that shield down on Lumiere in the live action 🙄
I'm going to be honest:
I've never watch the live action movie of Beauty and the Beast...
I was too busy watching the animation version instead
I had to watch it in my field trip in the 4th grade😟
@@isimpformice9009 did you hated it
isacc Villa well I was little so no but I don’t like it now
@@isimpformice9009 yeah me to the animated version is way better more fun and exciting
@@isimpformice9009 Wow same!
The funniest part about the patriarchy hating how Belle likes to teach little girls how to read is that the original freakin' novel was published in a magazine _for women._
They broke the historical timeline just to add a bad sjw moment X'D
Freakin' Jane Austen was around during BnB's time period and you're telling me that the whole village is obsessed with how Belle is teaching kids to read?
also as someone whose country has and is still grappling with actual issues on education women in rural areas with heavy patriarchal influence, its infuriating to see First world movie productions making a mockery of the issue with their barely attempting to capture the nuance of women and education to begin with. In my country, we know if a girl wants to be educated in a rural society back in the day she won't be openly making engineering stuff and teaching servants to teach near community watering hole. The girls in such situation try to escape their community to cities or better villages and towns. Opposition against women education is far more pervasive and insidious than just bullying a woman by dirtying her laundry LMAO. Actual oppressed for education Belle wouldn't dare to read anything out in the open or show off her invention at all or try to pass it off via her dad . Her desire for seeing the world could have been turned into not just a dream but actual necessity to pursue her rights and passion. So when the Beast without any guile just gives her access to a Library she would see he is more than just a narrow minded provincial asshole which she has seen her whole life if not the most sweetest thing , i guess . There is noble qualities to him
( see there is a way to make fake sjw agenda into a sincere meta storyline if one thinks for 2 seconds which no one did i guess)
Also, judging by that girl’s clothes, she would have already known how to read. Contrary to what Hollywood wants you to believe, women reading in that time period wasn’t uncommon. Even the poorest girl learned how to read in some form to do daily functions, like cooking. Women were expected to read as much as men were because it prepared women for running a household and raising children.
that whole, "one girl reading is one too many" screens "MUH FEMINISM"
From how you explained it, it feels like they wanted to put politics into the story. Instead of exploring the fantastical and emotional side of it. Belle as an inventor, that feels awfully like pushing the women can also be engineers line. So that makes me think, if they had explored that further, they could have made a more geeky Belle than the one we know from the cartoon. Knee deep in elbow grease. More quality of life inventions based on a first design this being the rolling barrel or something else, also her search for more knowledge through reading. I don't know, I think that can also be made cute and attractive, and would have given us an alternate character for Belle. Now, I haven't seen the movie yet. Just my 2 cents from your description. :)
I haven't seen the live action one either (nor do I particularly want to), but your description of a geekier Belle sounds far more interesting. Give her some eyeglasses to complete the ensemble and I'd be wholly on board.
Alice M. I think you've kind of hit on the problem her Alice. The changes to Belle aren't bad, they just don't work here because that's essentially all they've changed and they only made the changes at the surface level. They shoehorned a new Belle into the old story, and weren't able to really fully flesh out the changes because she has to fit into all of the existing plot points.
I’d love the idea for geeky belle. It kind of makes sense since her father is so geeky too! Her father is an inventor too!
It’ll make lots of really cute scenes with beast and belle too.
Yes that would be so cute!
An alternative steampunk-ish Beauty and the Beast (not like the lunar Chronicles, no shade) would be so neat and work with how the staff are almost mechanical and all.. Only to wish
Did anyone else look at her first "escape plan" and think she's going to try and climb down a icy tower with ribbons of fabric, not even checking if it would hold her weight, at night and this is suppose to make her seem smarter?
Also, instead of holding her ground ready for any defensive maneuver in a better lit patch of the dungeon to know what she's going up against, she recklessly decided to stride face first into the dark only knowing that there's an inhuman figure almost twice her size. She's more brash, aggressive and makes her look even cockier than Gaston.
Also also, in such a tense scene, she decides to take the initiative without considering that Beast might not appreciate someone that by attitude can come off as a threat of getting a potential burn with her torch and he could end her right then and there.
@@bassyboi581 The original Beast would've accidentally thrown her off the edge because of instinct and/or rage because she shoved fire in his face, but this is the "My condition is more of an inconvenience than something slowly destroying my humanity." Beast so he was more annoyed than threatening.
@@CoolG97 Truly, no justice on this world. But seriously though, they also could have done a lil scarier angle even though he's annoyed. He looks like me when my parents start telling embarrassing stories about me
@@bassyboi581 Well that would've made him intimidating and we can't have that because it might make him unlikable, so instead he's an even bigger douche than Gaston but not half as charming. (He and Watson!Belle deserve each-other.)
they should’ve casted lily collins as belle, she would’ve been perfect
Yeah true but even Emilia Clarke could have been a good choice
Honestly legit everyone would have been better. Even if Luke Evans became Belle.
I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME
Omg I didn't know you could see into the future? That's so cool, tell me more all about the movie where LILY COLLINS definitely did a much better job 🤦♀️
If Audrey is still alive she's the perfect Belle she's smart, unique and very soft
For me, casting a Belle would have been so goddamn difficult. She is on another level. She walks, looks and talks with such grace and kindness, it’s unreal. Casting someone who could be so tender yet bold when needed would have been so hard but Emma Watson just wasn’t it. At all. She seems to cold to me, she doesn’t have any life or sweetness in her eyes.
Thank you! You completely understand!❤️
Agree!
Leighton Meester is a good choice. She can sing and is fluent in French.
I think a dancer or a Broadway comedian would have been better for the role to express grace in a human way. By the way, Lily James and Amy Adams were good when they played a Disney princess.
The biggest issue is I had was that Emma Watson's voice wasn't nearly as strong as the original. The softer ballads sound pleasant but Watson can't pull off those powerful moments that the music calls for. Though I will say I enjoyed Dan Stevens portrayal of the beast. I agree that the library scene was a bit of a thud but overall think Stevens brought a level of sarcastic charm to the beast that was similar original. Not to mention the beasts solo was my favorite song from the new movie. It was full of so much emotion and it make me cry. Also, dan Stevens is way hotter in human form than Adam from the animated movie...
ZombiiChixx i actually preferred the new library scene myself. I love the payoff after the setup with the "library" in the opening especially.
I agree, the original library scene cannot be topped but I love the song evermore, that was an amazing addition.
Dont worry, youre not the only sane person in the world. I noticed a lot of these differences too. I hated Watson's performance. Great analysis btw!
@@monabohamad2242 i hate how you hate his hate. HATRED!1
It should be the director you hate, Emma is the actor and you have the director. Think of it like a dollhouse, Emma does what she's told to do based by the script. Emma doesn't decide I think I should teach this girl how to read. Or, I think I need to walk like I own the place.
I think there's a fine line between performance and a script. Let's admit it, even if Emma was to do the same things in the script profoundly she’d still get hate just because everyone assumes she's ever too much of a feminist, too much of a Hermione Granger, too popular they could've gave it to anyone
@@aurorthia8199 didnt she talk about how she made belle more feminist or something?
@@aurorthia8199 Nah, Emma had control over her expressions, poise, and portrayal of belle. I've read she even had control over the writer and the dress designer as well.
People including me were elated at hearing that she'll be playing Belle since we expected she suits her, but after watching the movie, we were devastated and disappointed. Emma was just playing Emma in Belle's dress, she wasn't really Belle. So no, more people would've appreciated Belle if Emma portrayed her better.
You can blame Emma Watson for most of the jarring changes. She explained in interviews she told the producers how to "improve" upon Bell. Ultimately it was just a crappy attempt to mold her into a feminist ideal to further her SJW agenda. It's sad. First Ghost Busters, and now classic Disney films
Political ideology aside, it's insulting that someone can take the source material and assume they can do a better job. Like Kitetales ends with, how can you improve a perfect character?
I'm not at all fan of Emma Watson or her kind if feminism or her portrayal of Belle but like when you use the term 'sjw' in a derogatory way like, why is it bad to care about social justice?
Social justice tends to be about the identity of the group someone is in, rather than the individual themselves. "You" are not important. Your race/gender/sexual orientation/religion/ethnicity/etc. is what's important.
This just reinforces the fact that Emma Watson was a horrible choice for this role. She obviously didn't care for the original at all, and I guarantee you they only picked her because her role in Harry Potter made her well known. That's literally all she's really known for in any significant way.
Her ego is just way too big for her own good. Putting feminist propaganda in a beloved classic like Beauty and the beast to push her political stances is a real insult to many fans of this wonderful movie.
I like how you were able to state the things that were bothering you, and to do it without attacking anyone. It sounds like a lot of your concerns are the same reasons that I haven't seen any of Disney's live-action remakes since they started the whole trend.
I feel like the people at Disney (and most movie studios, for that matter) don't understand what made their classic movies so powerful and memorable in the first place. So instead of trying to recreate that feeling of wonder and light-hearted fantasy that the originals had, they try to ground these fairy tales in pessimistic realism. Among other things, this apparently means that characters have to be low-energy and nonchalant so that audiences don't see them as naive, serious and heartfelt moments need jokes to keep them from being awkward, and a woman has to be a tad bit aggressive and emotionally detached before she can be considered a strong female protagonist. You know, kind of like how some people think of reality.
I want to say that I commend Disney for trying, but the truth is... I wish they hadn't. I wish they would let the classics stand on their own, leave them be, and try telling more new stories. Oh well.
LamanKnight you could just as easily have said that to Disney when they made the original film. Leave it alone and how dare you change anything. I don't think they've changed enough here, and that's the actual failing.
These classic movies don’t need remakes. To me, this is Disney running out of ideas and rehashing the movies we love but taking out everything we loved about them.
Mona Bohamad2 WHOEVER LIKED YOUR COMMENT GOT HANGED, AND SO WILL YOU, BASTARD WHO WOULD MASTURBATE TO BRATZ!!!!!!!!!! *downvotes comment*
@@kieranstark7213 wot
spemka Yeah, Mona Bohamad2 is absolutely unlikeable because she is a hypocritical (she calls people haters for not liking Hollywood remakes, but I’m sure that would make HER the hater) cyberbully that thinks everything about her should be criticized.
I despise this movie with all my heart 😔. The biggest disappointment out of the whole film to me was the dance sequence. In the cartoon it is set up to be a romantic date between belle and the beast and the build up to it was for the beast to confess his feelings. They had dinner, an intimate dance together, and relaxed afterwards under the stars. It was so romantic and just makes you feel all fuzzy inside. 💛
The live action however, it just includes the dance scene and that's it. There's no build up or anything that can lead to it naturally. It's just the through process, "well it was in the cartoon so it has to be in the live action too." It felt robotic and awkward between them and it even ended weirdly with them just stopping then walk outside stiffly to just stand and talk. Overall, such a let down 🙄.
Mona Bohamad2 *YOU* ARE ABOUT AS HORRIBLE AND NEGATIVE AS GINGER ROBERTS, 72.224.115.118 FROM LOVE INTEREST WIKI (WHICH HE GOT BANNED FOR FOR BEING A DISRESPECTER) AND MORE OF THE MODERN SONIC FANBASE!!!!!!!!!! EVERYBODY HATES YOU!!!!!!!!
And don't forget when Belle ask the Beast to dance and all his reactions, being so shy and nervous at her and then showing a smile when Belle hugs him♥️♥️. I really wanted to fall in love with this CGI Beast, but I couldn't, it has no feelings at all
Mona Bohamad2 It means you could (at the very least) respect opinions and not treat your own as facts. That way your reputation can improve!
Mona Bohamad2 I shouldn’t even be spoken to like that (I deal with too much of it), I was just trying to help you.
Mona Bohamad2 By reputation, I mean it in two ways, “How the majority of people views you” and “the way you are”.
And you can fee free to express opinions, you just have to take consideration why people like certain movies over others.
You may like at least some live-action remakes, but that doesn’t mean they’re (objectively) underrated.
emma sucked so bad in the role
she should win a NO-BELLE PRIZE
@@lunartice4125 I feel like you lied about your age on RUclips; there's no way you're thirteen.
• L u n a t i c • I’m younger then 13 and even I know that she absolutely flipping sucked. Emma definitely deserves a No-Belle prize
Well it still sounded a bit rude, You guys have your point, No need to sound so unpolite and yes rude😊
@@alyssaduenas1543 it's just Disappointing to read these type of comments :/
jeez it was a bad pun. let it go already
And belle has a face that looks like very sweet and calming, but Emma have this sharp face like her feature pop a lot more (not saying its ugly) but its just doesnt fit the character. She looks aggressive while belle looks soft calm sweet you know?
I agree. She has a sneaky, shifty-eyed look. She's somewhat pretty but no belle look at all.
I love your review and i honestly have tears forming in my eyes towards the end...you pointed out everything that is wrong with the "belle" in the remake. Belle is the most kind hearted princess and one of the strongest too, she is modest and compassionate and she knows how to handle people, the new "belle" is just condescending, they tried to improve her but failed miserably, the new " belle" is not charming at all. She lacks the softness and the kindness of the real belle.
There was no way a movie like this starring Emma Watson wasn't going to have feminist BS shoved into it. Not only is Emma a very wooden actress, she would demand or they would adjust the script on their own to modernize it as well as demonize the time in which the story is set. Nothing people with that ideology touches will be spared from it.
It's better to stick with the classics, we'll never get movies like that again.
Mona Bohamad2 unless the movie has no redeeming qualities? If we don’t raise our voices nothing will change.
I agreed with you on the ‘adjust the script to modernize it’ however Emma cant direct a film, that's not her career. I think the directors are taking advantage of the fact she's a feminist in real life and putting it in their film, or my other view was that they were afraid to make belle seem quiet or weak so they adjusted the script and made Emma perform their version of ‘independent’ I honestly feel bad for Emma, all the backlash from the movie is falling on her. People are forgetting who is in control, she acts what she is given. But yeah I agree with you
Kite you ready for Live action Mulan without songs and removed Shang (because females shouldn't have romantic interests apparently)
All I can say is why.
The 43rd Firedemon Wait are you for real??
Starring Scarlett Johansson?
WHAT! No Shang?!
You're joking right?! o_0
Radicaldanny nope. apparently this is real. its really real. the replaced shang with some dude named honghui or something
I prefer live action movies that change the story instead of trying to make them "better" such as Maleficent and Alice in wonderland because its not the same story being told in a worse way its a different movie that can expand on the law from the original
Emma Watson is a bad actress. I’d rather see Lily Collins as Belle, she has similar qualities from the original character ❤️
I don’t think Emma’s a bad actress but I just think her portrayal of belle was horrible
@@kaam960 Totally agree with you
No you don’t have better shit to do true i couldn’t watch the movie without thinking of Hermione same when I watched little women
i love emma and i think she's an amazing actress, but yesssss i really want to see lily collins as belle cuz i always imagined her (lily) as belle in my mind
At first i thought you said Lily James and i was like NAWW! then when i realized you said lily collins i looked at an image of her and i was like YASSS! too bad shes not french tho :(
One of my biggest issues with the movie was that they explain the Beast's backstory pretty well in the beginning, but when it came time to explain how he got that way, they blamed everything on his dad...What?? they blamed the Pre-Beast attitude on his dad, (a character with no lines and little reference, but we know is bad because his portrait was ripped up and he took his son out of the room with his wife's corpse in it.) it couldn't have been that he got orphaned at a young age and the staff more or less spoiled him into his adult years so he never had to really mature. Wouldn't that make more sense with the line about how members of the staff felt that they shared blame for the curse.
Other issues-
1.Emma Waston getting the role, Belle felt too much like Herimoine.
2.Timeline, it's always winter at the castle now, this whole story could happen over a the course of a week for all we know.
3.Gaston being more likable than Belle and that completely new character serving as his lackey that is like the original in name only (I also felt said character was missed cast.)
4.Implying that Belle was odd because she could read and not because she DID nothing but read.
5.Towns people seemingly being more mad about a girl be taught to read and not that Belle brought a Donkey into an area for washing clothes that probably isn't suppose to have farm animals in it.
"It's like someone trying to replace the sun by a flashlight"
😂😂😂
Great analysis. When I was a kid Belle was my most beloved princess because of her kindness, love for books and the fact that Beast’s appearance didn’t stopped her from falling in love with him. And this version...they did my girl dirty. That’s not Belle - that’s Emma Watson 🤦
Same; Belle has always been my favorite and they just butchered everything I loved about her.
No matter how I used to love Emma Watson, her performance in this movie made me realized she's not that good of an actress or artist. She clearly did not research the character or the time period. *sigh
For me, the most painful thing they took away from Belle was her breaking Beast’s curse. In the original, she says she loves him just before the last pedal falls. In the live action she doesn’t say it in time and the enchantress breaks the curse anyway... It takes away her main purpose and makes her love feel cheep or that it doesn’t matter. Sure, it was heartbreaking to watch the servants change into non-living objects but it takes away from the theme of the movie.
It seems like an attempt at giving Belle a bit more agency but it amounts to it not being the same character. This is a problem with most of the characters in the film really. I especially hate the changes to the Beast.
John Garza which was a welcome change from for me. I see no reason to ever hope she would be exactly the same. If I wanted the same, I'd stick with the original. I really liked that they gave her more agency, but was left disappointed overall because the rest of the film is so similar that I see no reason to ever revisit this one again. The changes to Belle aren't enough for me to justify watching this version over the animated version next time I'm in the mood for BatB.
Emma Watson doesn't have the warmth, tenderness and sweetness of animated Belle. Animated Belle is strong, independent, educated, knows what she wants, makes her own choices, and doesn't allow anyone to bully her. As a woman I'm tired of this trope that a feminine, gentle, nurturing woman cannot be strong and brave and her own person at the same time. It is also ridiculous to present the villagers as hostile to women who read, when the original story is written by an 18th century woman. Actually, two 18th century women, and the intended audience were 18th century girls, who were taught to read. Besides, the CGI Beast lacks the charm and charisma of the Beast in the animated version. CGI is nearly expressionless. Well, so is Emma Watson in this role.
When I first heard about the live action Beauty and The Beast I really wanted Emily Rossum to play Belle. She not only has the looks down pat but she also has a similar charm about her that just screams cartoon Belle.
Thank you for making a detailed video about this!
people should finally understand that being feminine and empathic doesn't exclude being strong and brave. also you can be a feminist and wear a skirt and pink blouse.
The scene that always bothered me was when the beast asks belle if she is happy with him. In the animated movie she says that she is but she misses her father. In the 2017 she says “can anyone be happy unless they’re free?” I took that’s as belle didn’t love the beast.
Another moment I saw based on a clip I saw was the breakfast scene.
1991: The Beast slobbers away and Belle is put off by it. The Beast reconsiders and tries to eat with a spoon. After failing to do so - beast paws don’t allow for fine dexterity =] - Belle offers to drink from the bowl and the Beast follows in turn. That is a beautifully simple way to show the give and take between them and how their relationship deepened.
(And there’s a nice payoff later where at the ballroom dinner … the Beast is indeed eating using silverware, showing how much effort *he* has made to improve himself.)
2017: Instead of that tender understanding, Emma reluctantly puts down her spoon and makes the gesture to drink from the bowl.
Based on other clips, she comes off more like a school marm scolding a kid for not reciting his time tables correctly whilst interacting with the Beast. In fact, the Objects actually reveal the spell aside from what could end it. This comes off, to me, like she was doing what she was doing deliberately to help *them*, not the Beast.
Really, it should be retitled: Emma Watson and the Enchanted Objects.
Beautifully said, and yes it’s incredible how that little scene in the original movie conveyed so much about their relationship and the importance of compromise and love.
Your alternate movie title is spot on!
I literally cry like a loser, every time I watch the animated version of the library scene. It's just so sweet and cute and gahhhh 😭💖
Honestly her making the washing machine so she could read more is in character with the original. Teaching the girl to read was unnecessary though
I think they wanted to create a strong and independent character. Belle is indeed strong but her main personality threats are a soft heart and intelligence.
By the way, my top three disney princesses are
1.Mulan
2.Belle
3.Merida
Belle reads for the journeys and adventures she experiences with her imagination while Emma reads for reading and being equal to the men at the time.
Thank you!!! I can’t count the numerous arguments I’ve had with people who say Emma was the perfect Belle. To me, there was hardly any of Belle’s personality, kindness and gentleness at all. Another scene I always point out is the segway to the Belle (reprise). Gaston comes off as pretty understandable. He doesn’t push Belle. He’s concerned about her wellbeing once Maurice dies. She is so cold and rude and it literally comes out of nowhere, just so you think there’s a catalyst for Belle to start singing (if you can call it that) “Madame Gaston” etc.
It upset me so much how badly Emma Watson was cast in the role. Beauty and the Beast is my favourite movie and musical theatre Dream role that I will finally be tackling once COVID ends. I wish they had kept to the musical libretto. It’s pretty much perfect, just like the original movie.
I started crying as you were describing the scene in the animated movie where the Beast gifts Belle the library and then I started crying even more when you described the death scene, especially because I started to imagine the score to the movie when you mentioned it. It's gotta be like my favorite score in any animated movie. Not only are the live action remake films bad, but they're worse, they're insulting to me as an animation enthusiast. They're insulting to generations of animators whose lives work were these original films. I know new content doesn't delete the original, but I can't help but feel like when Disney's cranking out all these remakes, they're brushing the originals under the rug, and also as well, proving to the majority that animation is only for kids when we should be highlighting how animation is a medium that can be used to create a masterpiece. Beauty and the Beast was groundbreaking when it came out. It was the first animated film to be nominated for best picture at the Oscars, showing that the ideals of animated movies being lesser movies for kids were changing. Now adays, Disney's just spitting out these remakes because people who grew up with them are adults now and they'll make money on the nostalgia factor. But this also promotes the idea to society that "oh this is the adult one because it's not a carton". It even has a longer running time, but for what? Several pointless filler moments just to make the movie longer for older audiences. But getting back to the point, it's just not fair that this is the character people see when they think Belle now, and don't even get me started on Lion King. Luckily, Walt Disney Animation Studios, the studio that started it all, is giving us hope. Because of nostalgia factor again, WDAS released Ralph Breaks the Internet and then Frozen 2, which aren't their best, but I personally enjoy watching them, however, it worried me that WDAS released two sequels in a row when their first and only sequel created before these two was The Rescuers Down Under in 1990. But my point was, WDAS is giving me hope because of their future releases, they have good intentions and know what they're doing and they're upcoming film looks amazing. They were also on a huge hot streak with their original films in the 2010's, Tangled, Wreck-it-Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, and then Zootopia and Moana, both in THE SAME FREAKING YEAR! and with their new wave of original films coming soon, they're gonna show future generations what Beauty and the Beast showed us.
Unpopular opinion: Emma Watson can’t, and never could act. People adore her and see her through rose tinted glasses because she was in one of the most beloved franchises of all time, and she’s stunningly beautiful.
I think she's pretty at best. I don't get the fuss over her looks.
@@meenaksi1082 she is very naturally pretty with a symmetrical face and near perfect features. Objectively, she is very beautiful
Great review Kite. The more I hear about the live action version, the happier I am that I decided to pass on it. It was bad enough that they had to auto-tune Emma Watson, but the fact that they also flubbed up her character so much is just heartbreaking. I'm a life long fan of the original as well as the stage version. I had high hopes for the live action version, and it's heartbreaking to hear they didn't even seem to understand their own characters.
yes...watched it ,totally agree with you kite...
what is Disney doing with the live action versions of their animated classics???..why??
wasting these lovely IP
3:20 when you started saying the lines from the animation had more spirit and passion and emotion than the live action.
Seeing a lot about "feminist agenda" but I think the issue is really that it's not genuine feminism, it's capitalising on feminism
There's also the fact that she refused to wear a corset for the film even though it's just a historically accurate costume and had nothing to do with feminism
exactly. Corsets are just extended bras. They're not meant to be restrictive. In fact, it's supposed to help with a person's posture, as well as in assisting the person with the heaviness of the gown. I mean look at Emma, her posture was REALLY bad in the movie.
I mean I would've respected Emma more if she just personally decided not to wear a corset, but the fact that she had to make a woke statement about it is just a reach.
They wanted the live action Bell to be "strong" and "bold", but it just looks like she's selfish and careless.
Selfish?
Honestly I feel like Watson didn't portray Belle to act like Belle, but she portrayed Belle to act like her- she made Belle not as feminist, she made Belle more headstrong, etc.
I ended up still really liking the live action beauty and the beast but what I really did miss was the library scene, the beast was so cute when he wanted to show it to her and it’s kinda the moment you start to love his character. His facial expressions are so adorable. The scene in the live action was fine but it just didn’t have the same charm. Also, I like Emma Watson as an actress (even tho I don’t like her politics) but when you watch the movie you are very aware you are watching emma Watson and not just Belle. That’s why it’s nice to use lesser know actresses like Lily James in Cinderella.
The main way that their relationship developed in the live action movie was through exposition. The servants telling her how great the Beast is. They are desperate to break the spell before it’s permanent so it seems insincere. Not to mention Belle and Beast are both are fighting the original story, not grasping what drew these characters together.
In the animated version, it is very organic and emotional.
Belle has a vulnerability which is actually a strength, that live action belle lacks.
Tough people don't want to come across as vulnerable because they think that being soft and vulnerable makes them look weak.
To be fair, Gaston in the original had a line where he was saying “when a woman starts to read she starts getting ideas and thinking” as if it was horrific.
Belle in the animated movie was already strength and beauty herself. Sadly, the live action version tried to over emphasize it in the wrong sense,in my opinion.
is it just me or do you kind of sound like Belle from the animated version? 😂
The animated belle can sing.
Maybe one day they will make another remake that is more like Cinderella, and therefore 10x better than the Emma Watson version.
Madeline Vance i love the live acción cinderella except that they forced the actress to use a corset smaller than she needed
isabella I understand the concern, but a lot of it was just an optical illusion. Big sleeves and a HUGE skirt make the already naturally small waist look smaller than it is. And as far as I know the actress wore the corset of her own free will.
@@isabellac.8351 Lily who wore the corset loved her entire experience so maybe you should worry about other things.
Beast decides to give her books as a gift bc he likes her. In the movie, he just wants to show off.
Still not over Belles constant 'Eww, as if! Don't you know I read basic Shakespeare, you peasant?'-attitude.
“Little town...Full of little people”
“To this poor provincial town”
“There must be more than this provincial life!”
Belle never thought highly of her town and constantly made snide remarks when she was singing
@@Mb-eo6bg Good that they improved on that in the reboot with the 'Where is my avocado-toast'-face she does in every other scene...
SAME!!!!😍😍🙏🏼 thank you! I feel just the same, you put it so perfectly. I also have issues with the way they handled Gaston. The library & death scenes are my big points too... I prefer the OG sooooo much more and always will. The animated movie is my all-time favorite movie 🎥♥️
Beauty and the Beast 2017 was pretty much Emma Watson's ego stroking project
Oh my god I love you! I can't believe I just now discovered your videos! THANK YOU!! I tried twice to watch the live action! The first time I couldn't make it after ten minutes and I pushed myself to watch all of it because I couldn't fully hate it without having see it. You just took my feelings for these movies and vocalised them! THANK YOU! EXACTLY!
You have such a beautiful and gentle soul. It completely shows in the way that you speak about it❤️. You completely understand my viewpoint about the film. Belle was so full of love and grace. She’s one of my biggest role models
i love the part around 03:30, you are so into it you even emulate the voice of the beast and belle xD
Emma Watson always has this arrogant look in her face, like she's better than everyone, smarter. Belle was geeky girl, she was so into books she's reading, she was losing her connections with society and reality, like a dreamer. Never she was bratty and pride with her knowledge.The same problem with Hermione, Type A who needs to put everyone down or nurture them like a mom, always be bored and angry. Book Hermione was socially awkward kid, who doesn't like injustice, she was doing things and charity work for house elves rights, she was stubborn to the point not believing in Harry when he was right, because she was afraid of irrational things, Luna actually put Hermione in her place and was shown as more mature and wiser character than her but movie was biasing over Emma to the point where Harry and Ron lost their book identities, speech, words and intelligence.
I Dont even know where to start here, let's start with the basics. Emma is an actress if you didn't know and she acts in movies, Hermione Granger is a character in the Harry Potter franchise, Emma Watson plays this character and, oo remember when I said she ‘plays’ this character... That must be interesting for you... Anyway moving on to the movie, did you know there's a thing called directors who make scripts for films, yeah it's cool, but the actors/actresses don't write the scripts! Next did you know Emma looks at the script and performs what she is told... Must be a shocker who would've thought an actor had to act the script and doesn't make their own decisions, bummer. Next, did you know facial expressions can be scripted too... For example (belle smirks whilst walking slowly away) so cool isn't it. Oh and one last thing, Emma watson hasn't stole Hermione Granger's soul, so you can stop pretending beauty and the beast is harry potter and that Hermione Granger is a fictional character who Emma portrays in the HP franchise, goodbye hope u feel educated
@@aurorthia8199 you must be sophisticated one in parties, are you. I don't need to be reminded of those utterly shallow and predictable words to describe what actress is and what she can do. Of course a lot of work went to directors, but are you sure now that she's that good of an actress if she only does what director says. Ironically she had balls to get whiny and bratty because she's such a feminist to the point of not doing what costume designers and directors says to her during filming of Beauty and the Beast. My point is actress is corrupted by her fame of being most pretty and one of the richest child actors in Britain. She wishes she would be as talented and hard working as Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliffe but she's not, she's playing same characters,she puts same mimics on her face and satisfied by it. But keep deny that because actress has super cute face you like so you're allowing yourself to have bias toward her, hope you feel E D U C A T E D.
@@thomaszloi9444 also quick add on bec of the bs you started adding, if Emma Watson thinks such costume as a corset makes her feel uncomfortable and you have a problem with that..,then you can also start hating on Jennifer Lawrence as she refused to stop being painted to look like Raven in X-men as it made her feel uncomfortable.
@@aurorthia8199 I don't care about Lawrence in first place why would you bring her to this topic. Life is uncomfortable maybe you shouldn't be actress if you can't do such thing or just don't participate in such role
@@thomaszloi9444 you literally ignored everything else I said
The original belle was still kind and just loved to read. The townspeople thought she was a bit odd but that was it. Emma Watson goes around practically shouting in people's faces "I'm better than you", and they turn her into a strong feminist disdainful character. It wasn't a good portrayal of belle nor feminism, I really hated her in the live action movie.
I get what you mean, but Disney controls what Emma says, acts, does.. In this position think of yourself as Emma. You are aware this is a boost for your career, you know the story of beauty and the beast but realise Disney is making everything seem as if it needs independence. She gets all the backlash it saddens me.
@@aurorthia8199 but Emma is largely responsible for reimagining Belle
Other scenes that were changed from the original version that I didn’t like:
• Gaston asking belle to dinner (to which she declines) and when she asks if she is busy she says “No…” before walking off with a disgusted look on her face. Belle was always polite to Gaston in the beginning even though she didn’t like him.
• Belle pulling Phillipee’s reins roughly and demanding him to “take me to him” instead of calming him down and saying worriedly “you have to take me to him.”
• Belle saying she’d “starve before I ever ate with you” instead of her polite but firm response of “no thank you.” Again like the first interaction with Gaston she is never rude in the original animation version and that shows strength!
• Belle storming out MAD after the beast yelled at her for going into the West Wing. Girl this is his home and he told you not to go into there, he has every right to be mad! (I also don’t like here line of “getting out of here!” but it makes sense because they cut the whole “you have my word” scene in the Dungeon).
• Belle reluctantly setting down her spoon and sipping her soup all with out showing she is doing it as a way to show kindness to The Beast
• Belle saying “can anyone be happy if they aren’t free?” instead of the “yes” followed up by a sad smile that The Beast immediately picks up on and asks her about. Having Belle tell The Beast she was happy in the animated film was very powerful because The Beast didn’t NEED to do anything else to make her happy but he SAW and CHOSE to do something that would make her happier.
• The Beast not getting to say “because…i love her.” The whole reason The Beast was cursed in the first place was so that he could learn to love and having him verbalize that he has indeed learned that lesson was so powerful.
Bravo! Interesting that they changed a things that were not that subtle to begin with. Belle tending to Beast wounds and the ending are not small scenes. Seems like this movie was made with the focus group mentality instead of having an authentic feel. Which is probably my biggest complain about remakes.
To put it simply, belle and beast had much more chemistry in the original and their relationship and love felt organic.
As a kid I connected with Ariel the most, because she disobeyed her parents to get what she wanted and I hated my parents. BUT I always loved Belle. To me she seemed older, like in her later 20's and possibly in her time seen as almost a spinster. But she was fine with that. She wasn't looking for a husband, she was looking for someone as smart as she was to talk to, to spend time with. To me she felt taller than most girls, on the less beautiful side (for a Disney girl) -- almost plain. But she had such a sweet and kind disposition that people couldn't help but be drawn to her. Emma Watson is a fine actress, but she's not Belle. She's too short, too skinny, and her face is too sharp. Belle never struck me as "skinny" she seemed to have full curves and a rounder face. She seemed almost motherly, or like a big sister. As for Emma's voice, they should have just dubbed her over if she was really so bad they had to use THAT MUCH autotune. I bet her voice wasn't even that bad but Disney had to over do it.
It’s like women aren’t allowed to be gentle any more and are pressured to be a Hermione Granger type
Being Hermione for almost idk how many years just made her More Hermione.
Many of the changes made to Belle's character were made at Emma Watson's behest because Belle wasn't "feminist" enough for her.
The animated movie was a touching story about how an immature and selfish man learned to be kind and to love, and an intelligent, kind, and strong minded woman learned to love him in return.
The live-action movie was Stockholm syndrome.
2:11 Oh, I love this shot. They agree and she immediately collapses to her knees. The way her cloak and the beast’s cloak move in this single shot is so dramatic.
Nothing beats the original animated films, no matter how much Disney tries to replicate them.
@@kitetales Yes. I remembering seeing it in the theater as a kid. It cast a spell over the entire audience from the very first shot.
The only thing i like about the live action is the background decors and wardrobe of everyone BUT belle.
We were invited to get to know the animated Belle as a character 📚.
We were shoved from behind into knowing live-action Belle as a checkmark ✅.