I feel very happy to find your channel. I started learning piano with NP-12. It is a reasonable investment for piano beginners. Not expensive, but I enjoy enough to continue learning... from Japan.
Hello sir, I am considering of buying a piano as a complete beginner to start learning something about music and have some fun. Since I need something that is not super big and I can carry on with me and move around, and since I only need to connect my keyboard to a computer, use the midi port or connect it to my iPad and use it with apps like Flawkeys, would you recommend the Piaggero-12? It was told me that weighted keys are fundamental to learn how to play the piano. Is that true of a mid-solution like this one would fit for me?
Terrific review! One critique, however: while I'm quite cognizant of how fumbly and finicky a smartphone's Auto-Focus can be (if that is indeed how you're recording your videos), I found this review a bit hard to watch, as the AF kept struggling throughout the video, seeming to "bounce" and swell intermittently. I don't know what to suggest, as I don't know what your setup is (or what phone you're using, if you're using one at all). Granted, these types of videos are primarily audio anyway, so it's not a _huge_ deal overall, however the AF bounce does cause a bit of...not motion sickness or nausea, but it's definitely uncomfortable. On the plus side, I'm being gifted an NP-32, and your video here is one of a couple I've seen that has me pretty excited about what I'm getting. I had a Roland SK-50 for almost 30 years before its speakers and power connectors finally died, so this will be a significant step up, I think. Thanks for posting this video review!
Thank You for the review! Regarding diapasons. As the sound on video at 2:46, the lowest note of Np-12 (61 key version) is С by Helmholtz or C2 by Scientific notation, i.e. Do of Great octave, the same as lowest note of violoncello, and Np-32 has lowest note the same as 4-string bass guitar lowest note, isn't it?
Hi everyone. I had a NP-32. A total disappointing choice. What Yamaha needs to fix in this product and launch a possible NP-33/13: 1) Put the PSR-EW410 main piano sound on it. 2) Fix the speakers distortion above 80% (!). 3) Improve the keys action, that could be plastic, but not like a little toy. 4) Make the keys size like in a standard piano. Just that, because i liked the design and other sounds like the amazing onboard DX Piano. Now I changed it for a PSR-EW410 and is a very decent instrument. Though the NP series as it is, unfortunately no.
This is understandable - The speakers on the NP series are very small (they're more powerful and larger on EW-410) but it's designed primarily to be super lightweight, small and portable, so a compromise had to be made somewhere. The key mechanisms in fully, or semi-weighted keyboards add even more weight. For the size and weight they are the NP series are very good, but don't expect sound deep and rich, for this you'll need bigger speakers and amplifiers. We supply a lot of the NP series to people who use caravans, narrow boats or like to go busking. For this type of purpose they're great. But if you have space go for something like the P-45 or P125 which have fully weighted keys and better speakers/amplifiers. Hope that helps!
Very well done and helpful, thank you! NP-32 for me. With any "real" sustain pedal, but cheaper than the Yamaha, which seems overpriced, unlike the keyboards themselves. :)
-sorry for my bad english- Hello, do you enjoy playing with the np-32 ? I wanna order one for me. Is it necessary to buy a pedal ? Because it seems really cheap.
@@aeshi6986 I bought one but sent it back because I didn't like the action of the keys at all. To me, it feels very much like pushing on springs (with a fast return/rebound). I knew it didn't feel like a "real" piano but I expected something a bit closer. Plus, I missed the lower keys very much. A piano with 88 keys and no speakers on the sides is not much wider -- 2 inches more, or so --. Unless price is an issue and portability is important to you, I would suggest buying another DP, perhaps a P125? Importantly, I think it's not the right piano for a beginner who plans to study "seriously". The action of the keys might lead to bad habits, IMHO.
Le Yamaha np 12 je m'en sert comme second piano quand je joue chez des amis ou pour le porter en vacances en le branchant sur des enceintes de monitoring il est très bien sinon j'ai le Yamaha p125 pour la maison
what is a key’s width? most of the time the keys width on compact keyboards have smaller keys compared to a piano or digital piano and that messes up with my fingers
Thanks - I read the manual - but cannot shift octaves down on the NP-12 and need to - cold you post a video on Octave shifting - not transposing but Octave shifting please!
Had the same worry, but no such thing. The space between the keys is an industry standard, for example an octave will always have the same span. The only thing is that on Np12 the keys are a bit thinner so there is like 1mm more of extra space between them. But the important thing is the total width, which is constant.
Difficult to say without knowing all the details. I hope you manage to get it working, We wrote a blog about connecting a Yamaha P125 to an iPad - it might give a few tips for you here: www.epianos.co.uk/connecting-an-apple-device-to-your-p125-blog/
@@ePianoscouk many thanks for your reply, I purchase the USB (B to A) cable, and USB(A) to lighting converter, but the app (Simply Piano, or other piano Apps) doesn’t recognize the keyboard, although the GarageBand recoding function shows it’s connected, not sure it has requirement on iPad/iPhone device( which generation, or version of iOS) when it comes to use some of the Apps.
did someone know how to get the 10 demo songs of this piano ? the songs that plays when you press the "demo" buttun within the first organ. this sound is so good but i can't find any information about it, if someone knows please tell me, I can't breathe without it
Hi, I'm not the one in the video, the DGX660 is a digital piano with arranger functions, its keys are the most basic of Yamaha (GHS), and it has the sound of Yamaha's CFIIIS piano, that means it has many sounds and rhythms . On the other hand, the P515 is more of a stage piano, but with speakers, its keyboard is superior, because it is made of wood. It is basically a portable version of the Clavinva CLP series, because it has CFX binaural piano sounds and the sound of the Bosendorfer. They are somewhat different instruments, one is an arranger and the other is a stage piano.
Eight whole notes (hence "oct", the do-re-mi-fa sequence). All the white ones when you go from one C to another, which will be 12 keys including the black keys :)
Actually I am confused. The price increased so by 20-30€ in the past few months. Between the 11&12/31&32 there have been 5 years and this year it is 5 years since the 12&32if they launch every 5 yrs 😅
If you're learning piano, then go for Yamaha Piaggero NP12/32 - If you want to be super creative with backing music, different sounds, recording etc, then go for E series. You might find our blog/video helpful on choosing the right one: www.epianos.co.uk/how-to-pick-the-right-digital-piano-or-keyboard/
I feel very happy to find your channel.
I started learning piano with NP-12. It is a reasonable investment for piano beginners. Not expensive, but I enjoy enough to continue learning... from Japan.
A very informative and thorough review of both and comparisons. You hit on every detail, thank you. I have my NP-12 on order.
So your np-12 is okey? Bc I will buy it but I dk, because of 61 keys. Is it not too small?
@@_shafu_ It’s great! Not small at all.
I highly recommend, you will not be disappointed.
@@debhaax thank you very much
@@_shafu_ BTW, 61 keys equals 5 octaves more than enough for playing most pieces.
@@debhaax yea, youre right
You have a great channel 😊 Your followers from Iraq in the Middle East, we are grateful for your wonderful content
Very good video! Clear and helpful. Thank you! It helped me on my choice. I'm going with the np 32 even though I'm a beginner. It looks more complete.
Glad it was helpful!
The best direct comparison. Very much thank you! Good job!
Hello sir, I am considering of buying a piano as a complete beginner to start learning something about music and have some fun. Since I need something that is not super big and I can carry on with me and move around, and since I only need to connect my keyboard to a computer, use the midi port or connect it to my iPad and use it with apps like Flawkeys, would you recommend the Piaggero-12? It was told me that weighted keys are fundamental to learn how to play the piano. Is that true of a mid-solution like this one would fit for me?
Great view on both for size comparison. Thanks for this...
No problem 👍
Great video, thank you! Your explanation is very vivid and clear and you helped me with that. Kind regards from Germany.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the review. Very thorough
Super review video! Thank you!!
Terrific review! One critique, however: while I'm quite cognizant of how fumbly and finicky a smartphone's Auto-Focus can be (if that is indeed how you're recording your videos), I found this review a bit hard to watch, as the AF kept struggling throughout the video, seeming to "bounce" and swell intermittently. I don't know what to suggest, as I don't know what your setup is (or what phone you're using, if you're using one at all). Granted, these types of videos are primarily audio anyway, so it's not a _huge_ deal overall, however the AF bounce does cause a bit of...not motion sickness or nausea, but it's definitely uncomfortable.
On the plus side, I'm being gifted an NP-32, and your video here is one of a couple I've seen that has me pretty excited about what I'm getting. I had a Roland SK-50 for almost 30 years before its speakers and power connectors finally died, so this will be a significant step up, I think. Thanks for posting this video review!
HI which stand would you recommend? thanks
Thank You for the review!
Regarding diapasons. As the sound on video at 2:46, the lowest note of Np-12 (61 key version) is С by Helmholtz or C2 by Scientific notation, i.e. Do of Great octave, the same as lowest note of violoncello, and Np-32 has lowest note the same as 4-string bass guitar lowest note, isn't it?
Great video
Thanks!
Hi everyone. I had a NP-32. A total disappointing choice. What Yamaha needs to fix in this product and launch a possible NP-33/13: 1) Put the PSR-EW410 main piano sound on it. 2) Fix the speakers distortion above 80% (!). 3) Improve the keys action, that could be plastic, but not like a little toy. 4) Make the keys size like in a standard piano. Just that, because i liked the design and other sounds like the amazing onboard DX Piano. Now I changed it for a PSR-EW410 and is a very decent instrument. Though the NP series as it is, unfortunately no.
This is understandable - The speakers on the NP series are very small (they're more powerful and larger on EW-410) but it's designed primarily to be super lightweight, small and portable, so a compromise had to be made somewhere. The key mechanisms in fully, or semi-weighted keyboards add even more weight. For the size and weight they are the NP series are very good, but don't expect sound deep and rich, for this you'll need bigger speakers and amplifiers. We supply a lot of the NP series to people who use caravans, narrow boats or like to go busking. For this type of purpose they're great. But if you have space go for something like the P-45 or P125 which have fully weighted keys and better speakers/amplifiers. Hope that helps!
J'ai le np 32 avec des enceintes de monitoring Yamaha il n'a aucune distorsion de son il est très bien
antonio PSR-EW410 is a party synt not a stage piano
@@aman-mn5kc And... ?
Does the demo songs have guides (i.e. lights)?
Very well done and helpful, thank you! NP-32 for me. With any "real" sustain pedal, but cheaper than the Yamaha, which seems overpriced, unlike the keyboards themselves. :)
-sorry for my bad english- Hello, do you enjoy playing with the np-32 ? I wanna order one for me. Is it necessary to buy a pedal ? Because it seems really cheap.
@@aeshi6986 I bought one but sent it back because I didn't like the action of the keys at all. To me, it feels very much like pushing on springs (with a fast return/rebound). I knew it didn't feel like a "real" piano but I expected something a bit closer. Plus, I missed the lower keys very much. A piano with 88 keys and no speakers on the sides is not much wider -- 2 inches more, or so --. Unless price is an issue and portability is important to you, I would suggest buying another DP, perhaps a P125? Importantly, I think it's not the right piano for a beginner who plans to study "seriously". The action of the keys might lead to bad habits, IMHO.
Le Yamaha np 12 je m'en sert comme second piano quand je joue chez des amis ou pour le porter en vacances en le branchant sur des enceintes de monitoring il est très bien sinon j'ai le Yamaha p125 pour la maison
In the electronic keyboard with 76 keys, where is the middle C?! (C3 or C4?)
what is a key’s width? most of the time the keys width on compact keyboards have smaller keys compared to a piano or digital piano and that messes up with my fingers
Great vid
What about the quality of piano sound is that the same in both or more quality in np32?
Thanks - I read the manual - but cannot shift octaves down on the NP-12 and need to - cold you post a video on Octave shifting - not transposing but Octave shifting please!
76 keys NP32 is only a bit longer than 61 keys NP12 ?!🤔
Hello, can I play Chopin nocturne op. 9 no. 2 in Yamaha NP-12 ?
Why do chords on the np13 sound so muffled
Are the keys the same sizes on both models? I heard the keys on the np12 are a little bit smaller than a regular size keyboard.
Had the same worry, but no such thing. The space between the keys is an industry standard, for example an octave will always have the same span. The only thing is that on Np12 the keys are a bit thinner so there is like 1mm more of extra space between them. But the important thing is the total width, which is constant.
would the keybaord np12 be good for gigging?
I’m having issue to connect my Yamaha np-12 to Simply Piano app on iPhone/iPad, using cable. Any idea what could the issue
Difficult to say without knowing all the details. I hope you manage to get it working, We wrote a blog about connecting a Yamaha P125 to an iPad - it might give a few tips for you here: www.epianos.co.uk/connecting-an-apple-device-to-your-p125-blog/
@@ePianoscouk many thanks for your reply, I purchase the USB (B to A) cable, and USB(A) to lighting converter, but the app (Simply Piano, or other piano Apps) doesn’t recognize the keyboard, although the GarageBand recoding function shows it’s connected, not sure it has requirement on iPad/iPhone device( which generation, or version of iOS) when it comes to use some of the Apps.
@@ePianoscouk or possibly the Np-12 isn’t compatible with piano Apps/Simply piano
CAN we add a pedal to the np15?
i have the NP-12 what pedal do you recommend?
Hi, how would you make a video of the Roland Atelier AT-60 organ?
Can you just plug NP-12 into bigger speakers via cable or something and that way get better and sound?
Yes !
did someone know how to get the 10 demo songs of this piano ? the songs that plays when you press the "demo" buttun within the first organ. this sound is so good but i can't find any information about it, if someone knows please tell me, I can't breathe without it
In the user manuals for each piano. You can find the pdf on the internet.
ôxente!!!.....O piano tocou sozinho,alguém ouviu???....É de um desses que eu preciso. Pode me informar o valor do np 12, por favor???....Obgdo.
Hj em dia, 1700
Hi. I would like to see a comparison between Yamaha Dgx 660 vs 515 P. Which is the best. Thank you.
Hi, I'm not the one in the video, the DGX660 is a digital piano with arranger functions, its keys are the most basic of Yamaha (GHS), and it has the sound of Yamaha's CFIIIS piano, that means it has many sounds and rhythms .
On the other hand, the P515 is more of a stage piano, but with speakers, its keyboard is superior, because it is made of wood. It is basically a portable version of the Clavinva CLP series, because it has CFX binaural piano sounds and the sound of the Bosendorfer.
They are somewhat different instruments, one is an arranger and the other is a stage piano.
Is there an option with 61 keys and fully weighted keys? Ideally not super-heavy.
Hi gnostie. Not quite 61 note, but the Yamaha P-121 is 73 notes and fully weighted. You can see it on our website here: www.epianos.co.uk/yamaha-p121/
what song is he playing when he plays the duet song?
What are octaves? im new to learning about pianos
Eight whole notes (hence "oct", the do-re-mi-fa sequence). All the white ones when you go from one C to another, which will be 12 keys including the black keys :)
@@RutgerVos thanks 😊
Is it good to buy in Sept 2020? Is it discontinued by Yamaha?
Actually I am confused. The price increased so by 20-30€ in the past few months. Between the 11&12/31&32 there have been 5 years and this year it is 5 years since the 12&32if they launch every 5 yrs 😅
Is this better then a Casio s150? In sound
You should check for yourself by listening to videos of both according to your tastes
Wow top class
Less weighted than piano?.
Well yes, because its keys have no weight
Please help me. Am trying to make a choice on the Yamaha Piaggero and the E- Series
If you're learning piano, then go for Yamaha Piaggero NP12/32 - If you want to be super creative with backing music, different sounds, recording etc, then go for E series. You might find our blog/video helpful on choosing the right one: www.epianos.co.uk/how-to-pick-the-right-digital-piano-or-keyboard/
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How do u change octaves
I think you press the function button and one of the keys. There is a clear guide about the combinations in the manual.
@@ePianoscouk thank you I ended up finding the manual and found it in there
Why 2 church organ 1 organ church 1 jazz organ please Yamaha company
Let's be honest: "semi-weighted" = not weighted at all. And putting the speakers on the sides is a very idiotic design. Very very idiotic.
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