'French Randori' in Judo is extremely useful. This is where you cooperatively randori throw for throw. It teaches the 'optimal' loose state that is required to achieve good technique. Beginners should cooperatively randori often in the early years/grades
"The reason why they can do this [BJJ can flow roll] a lot better...is that the risks are lower." Excellent observation! Also, from Peter "So this even goes beyond just training, it's about community too." So true.
Learning how to loosen up and relax in judo was one of the biggest "aha" moments I had. I was either ikkyu or shodan when it finally happened. Up until that point I always assumed I was relaxed, which compared to my early days I was. Turns out that wasn't the case because there is that catch-22 of being loose and getting thrown. Though once I got good enough it allowed me to react better to their attacks as well as hide my movements as well. I tell my students that they need to relax, but I know they won't really do it for a while and that they should get used to us telling them so. It's definitely what happened to me. And when you get to that judo "flow" style randori with another black belt, that's where the fun is at. Take your falls and get your throws.
Karate guy here! You pretty much answered your own question about why there's bouncing during a match. It's to keep loose, basically. Keeping loose to strike, kick, side step, dodge, etc. So it sets up a cadence for movement you have to make during the match. Like any martial art, you need explosive power to perform those movements, the bouncing will definitely help!
I also feel like I'm going to get launched either way as a newb but I've noticed the physics and kinesthetics are a lot more punishing when I'm stiff, if that makes sense; they have to work harder for it but when I finally break, my whole stiff body levers over them (ouch). With being loose, I can either potentially attack better OR fall better OR quickly flow into and btwn offensive and defensive positions that may change things
I completely agree with what youre saying about white belts stiffening up. There’s a white belt i’ve sparred and trained with a little (japanese jujutsu) and he’s really stiff but as much as it frustrates me it is good as jujutsu is designed for the self defense and not competition so as much as it makes my blood boil it is more realistic for streets as that is naturally what an untrained person would do.
Lol I opened this up at the part where you said "you get told loosen up then you get launched." Freaking relatable!! The issue run into is being the smaller guy in a dojo full of large muscular guys. So it seems like their "loose" grips are more like stiff gorilla grips on me. You try to move and find an angle to off balance them to turn down the fire on their offensive, only to be forced back into place.
I've been trying to stay relaxed and the last time I relaxed I've got thrown by a heavier white belt, and stiffed right away. It is definitely not easy! I couldn't find many videos showing how to defend while still staying relaxed, or how not to loose grip while keeping arms and shoulders relaxed.
Can a grappling dummy be good for drilling throws ? Also, can you make a video breaking down to how drill properly because many of us focus on the number of reps rather than the mechanics of a technique. Please ! Do you have any drilling programs/videos for sell or on YT
Shaking the gi is only relevant in high level fights if you know what you’re doing it for, I’d say it’s like a preparation/yourself getting comfortable. Perhaps it can be the start of some sort of movement leading towards an attack
What do you mean.. Do you ever find yourself....! Its what 90% of all Judoka and Grapplers suffer from. To stay loose is to be free from your EGO.. and that is a hard hard lesson to learn.
Babe wake up new Shintaro video
I believe this was posted on spotify ages ago lol
So true, loosen up, against someone who is trying to bounce you off the mat.
@4:50 Shintaro on that tricep flex. Man knew what he was doing
'French Randori' in Judo is extremely useful. This is where you cooperatively randori throw for throw. It teaches the 'optimal' loose state that is required to achieve good technique. Beginners should cooperatively randori often in the early years/grades
You mean nagekomi? Or moving repetitions.
I have some randori partners that practice in a similar way. Switch from offense to defense, very useful
"The reason why they can do this [BJJ can flow roll] a lot better...is that the risks are lower." Excellent observation!
Also, from Peter "So this even goes beyond just training, it's about community too." So true.
Learning how to loosen up and relax in judo was one of the biggest "aha" moments I had. I was either ikkyu or shodan when it finally happened. Up until that point I always assumed I was relaxed, which compared to my early days I was. Turns out that wasn't the case because there is that catch-22 of being loose and getting thrown. Though once I got good enough it allowed me to react better to their attacks as well as hide my movements as well. I tell my students that they need to relax, but I know they won't really do it for a while and that they should get used to us telling them so. It's definitely what happened to me. And when you get to that judo "flow" style randori with another black belt, that's where the fun is at. Take your falls and get your throws.
Karate guy here! You pretty much answered your own question about why there's bouncing during a match. It's to keep loose, basically. Keeping loose to strike, kick, side step, dodge, etc. So it sets up a cadence for movement you have to make during the match. Like any martial art, you need explosive power to perform those movements, the bouncing will definitely help!
I would like a karate episode. Karate was my first martial art before I transitioned into judo. I think they complement each other pretty well
I also feel like I'm going to get launched either way as a newb but I've noticed the physics and kinesthetics are a lot more punishing when I'm stiff, if that makes sense; they have to work harder for it but when I finally break, my whole stiff body levers over them (ouch). With being loose, I can either potentially attack better OR fall better OR quickly flow into and btwn offensive and defensive positions that may change things
Excellent one Sir, thank you!
Love the show!, I would love to see a "Judo vs " series where you discuss Judo strategy when combating wrestling and other martial arts.
I completely agree with what youre saying about white belts stiffening up. There’s a white belt i’ve sparred and trained with a little (japanese jujutsu) and he’s really stiff but as much as it frustrates me it is good as jujutsu is designed for the self defense and not competition so as much as it makes my blood boil it is more realistic for streets as that is naturally what an untrained person would do.
Ah, here is my favourite Judoka in the internet! Have a nice day man!
I would be interested to see a karate episode
If you guys do a Karate episode, it would be cool seeing Sensei Seth and/or Jessie Enkamp as a guest or a cameo! I love the crossovers.
I needed to hear this.
Lol I opened this up at the part where you said "you get told loosen up then you get launched." Freaking relatable!!
The issue run into is being the smaller guy in a dojo full of large muscular guys. So it seems like their "loose" grips are more like stiff gorilla grips on me. You try to move and find an angle to off balance them to turn down the fire on their offensive, only to be forced back into place.
Great topic! Can confirm..
- tense white belt
- been injured as a result lol
- protect yourself and your team
I've been trying to stay relaxed and the last time I relaxed I've got thrown by a heavier white belt, and stiffed right away. It is definitely not easy! I couldn't find many videos showing how to defend while still staying relaxed, or how not to loose grip while keeping arms and shoulders relaxed.
Can a grappling dummy be good for drilling throws ? Also, can you make a video breaking down to how drill properly because many of us focus on the number of reps rather than the mechanics of a technique. Please ! Do you have any drilling programs/videos for sell or on YT
this is acctually very cool
Great episode!
One of my largest gains was to loosen up, take the fall. Feel the, Kuzushi, then remember that feeling.
Micro Judo, awesome video!
Shaking the gi is only relevant in high level fights if you know what you’re doing it for, I’d say it’s like a preparation/yourself getting comfortable. Perhaps it can be the start of some sort of movement leading towards an attack
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What do you mean.. Do you ever find yourself....! Its what 90% of all Judoka and Grapplers suffer from. To stay loose is to be free from your EGO.. and that is a hard hard lesson to learn.
I assume bouncing hides kicks
I think the other dude needs to loosen up
Poppers make me loose
fantastic and very educational 🙏