I played an older model for about ten years. The Hayden system is very intuitive. You should learn it very quickly. I sold my old stagi to my sister, as I had purchased a peacock from concertina connection. I'm 68 years old. My fingers have some numbness issues. The peacock has those little metal pins. Very uncomfortable. I had liberty bellows sell it for me and I bought a new stagi duet. The action does seem faster than the older one, and those big fat plastic buttons are so much more comfortable. The only thing I changed was the leather hand straps. They're made of good leather, but very stiff. Hurt my hand immediately. Get some "latigo" leather, Very tough but much more flexible. The duet system is the only way to go. The peacock is , (In my Opinion), great for session, but it's loud and out of balance. The chord side buries the melody. The stagi is also much sweeter. People will say. The peacock has hand made concertina reeds, much better. Well they don't sound better, they sound harsh. sorry for the long explanation, but it's hard to find detailed info about this stuff. Hopefully this info, from someone who has played a concertina for a while will help. John Xavier Poetic License
I've had mine for 8 months now. I play the instruments in three different bands. It's easy to play for me. I love the sound and except for one slightly stiff button, the action is very good.
You are quite right, in my opinion, that the "Peacock" buttons are too narrow (3/16" or mm equiv.) I played a Concertina Connection "Elise" once (CC, as you know, makes the "Peacock") - for about 5 minutes - when I had to stop. The skinny buttons were impossible. My go-to Hayden now is a Morris "Beaumont" with 1/4" buttons, just right in my opinion. The Stagi and (I presume) the Italia have 5/16" dia. buttons which are easy on the finger pads, but a bit "cumbersome" compared to the Beaumont's !/4" buttons - in my opinion. The Concertina Connection is an excellent maker of Haydens I think, but with a few unfortunate flaws I cannot get around (e.g. button diameters, number of buttons, price, etc). I've been playing the Hayden for about 12 years. What a great instrument! God bless Brian Hayden! All the best.
@@frankevich Hi, did you ever try the troubadour. I'm thinking about trying one, but I'll probably stick with the Stagi. It is a bit cumbersome though. Take care my friend, J. X.
@@johnxavier8732 Hi John. Never tried the Troubadour, only the Elise. Buttons look the same, i.e. painfully skinny. Also, only 36 buttons is problem for me. Absolute minimum would be 46 in my opinion. My Morris Beaumont is 52 and could use 4-5 more. All the best.
Nope - it came with a chart showing which button was which note. There are several tutors for the Hayden out there. One of them is the Hayden Harum Scarum Tutorial by Judy Hawkins. With Judy's permission, I cleaned up her manuscript and make it available through google docs - docs.google.com/document/d/1F-eW266aXm9tEDhdmfaVRdZYRmVCVflu1V06l9rpGew/edit?usp=sharing
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I played an older model for about ten years. The Hayden system is very intuitive. You should learn it very quickly. I sold my old stagi to my sister, as I had purchased a peacock from concertina connection. I'm 68 years old. My fingers have some numbness issues. The peacock has those little metal pins. Very uncomfortable. I had liberty bellows sell it for me and I bought a new stagi duet. The action does seem faster than the older one, and those big fat plastic buttons are so much more comfortable. The only thing I changed was the leather hand straps. They're made of good leather, but very stiff. Hurt my hand immediately. Get some "latigo" leather, Very tough but much more flexible. The duet system is the only way to go. The peacock is , (In my Opinion), great for session, but it's loud and out of balance. The chord side buries the melody. The stagi is also much sweeter. People will say. The peacock has hand made concertina reeds, much better. Well they don't sound better, they sound harsh. sorry for the long explanation, but it's hard to find detailed info about this stuff. Hopefully this info, from someone who has played a concertina for a while will help. John Xavier Poetic License
I've had mine for 8 months now. I play the instruments in three different bands. It's easy to play for me. I love the sound and except for one slightly stiff button, the action is very good.
You are quite right, in my opinion, that the "Peacock" buttons are too narrow (3/16" or mm equiv.) I played a Concertina Connection "Elise" once (CC, as you know, makes the "Peacock") - for about 5 minutes - when I had to stop. The skinny buttons were impossible. My go-to Hayden now is a Morris "Beaumont" with 1/4" buttons, just right in my opinion. The Stagi and (I presume) the Italia have 5/16" dia. buttons which are easy on the finger pads, but a bit "cumbersome" compared to the Beaumont's !/4" buttons - in my opinion. The Concertina Connection is an excellent maker of Haydens I think, but with a few unfortunate flaws I cannot get around (e.g. button diameters, number of buttons, price, etc). I've been playing the Hayden for about 12 years. What a great instrument! God bless Brian Hayden! All the best.
@@frankevich Hi, did you ever try the troubadour. I'm thinking about trying one, but I'll probably stick with the Stagi. It is a bit cumbersome though. Take care my friend, J. X.
@@johnxavier8732 Hi John. Never tried the Troubadour, only the Elise. Buttons look the same, i.e. painfully skinny. Also, only 36 buttons is problem for me. Absolute minimum would be 46 in my opinion. My Morris Beaumont is 52 and could use
4-5 more. All the best.
Does it come with a manual?
Nope - it came with a chart showing which button was which note. There are several tutors for the Hayden out there. One of them is the Hayden Harum Scarum Tutorial by Judy Hawkins.
With Judy's permission, I cleaned up her manuscript and make it available through google docs
- docs.google.com/document/d/1F-eW266aXm9tEDhdmfaVRdZYRmVCVflu1V06l9rpGew/edit?usp=sharing
I made a video in the Concertine Italia factory last year - ruclips.net/video/2ypFYSbA678/видео.html