Blud dropped an ALMOST THREE HOUR VIDEO for character tech in a non-competitive, singleplayer game. Only in DMC you will find this bros. I love this community and this series
@@caveirainvocada9438 Funnily enough I was doing my master's thesis while making all those combos. The combos themselves took like 6 months to create (May-October 2022), but I started analyzing some of the combos as early as July 2022. I had to defend my thesis in December 2022, and I can confidently say that these combos and analyses were a bigger hassle LMFAO. I still have 6 more combos left to analyze but it's such a hassle and I'm procrastinating
2 minutes in, I just want to say thank you so much. This is going to be a fantastic well of resources to learning this character and getting better, which is what playing dmc5 past the campaign is all about.
I started replaying DMC5 recently and progressed onto BP after almost no-damaging Dante in SOS. After losing @ Lv80, I decided to just learn up and do DMD, realized the enemies kick my ass so hard so I need to get stronger. I spend this entire day basically just getting a grasp on certain things I had not yet like strafing, World of V, and (Perfect) Judgment Cuts. This guide is like the only one that really clicked with me on how Judgment Cutting works in terms of the two different releases, I'm still practicing but now I can chain 4 of them in the air more than half the time and if I'm really focused I just nail it. So thanks bro. My favorite iteration of Perfect Judgment Cut is performing Void Slash at the end of a combo, and waiting to release until the slash basically detonates, then chain the extra JC's
No problem man, glad the video helped! And yeah the void slash JC is very straightforward, I like that one too. Now that you can chain up to 4 JCs in a row in the air, everything will get easier trust me. The timing on the ground is slightly different but once you get it down that's also not an issue
I actually watched this entire video, even though I already know most of what u covered, lol. But I just love DMC that much! But I did learn quite a bit of new stuff in the Doppelganger section. So I'd like to say thank you for that. I'm leaving a like and subscribing, bc I like your style and I really like the combo analysis vids. I'm sure I'll learn a lot from those. So keep it up! You're doing awesome work.
Thanks a lot man! I'm gonna analyze all of the 23 combos I did, I've already finished most of them (17/23), but I have yet to upload some of them because I need to add finishing touches. Then I'll analyze the remaining 6 in time
As a new player to Devil May Cry 5, (Only ever played DmC, loved the Vergil dlc so I bought this one just because he was playable) thank you, thank you, thank you. Was having a hard time finding beginner friendly guides for Vergil and I can’t wait to check out those combo analyses
This video should have way more recognition and praise. You've put so much effort, detail, care and time into articulating a phenomenally put together guide which is well flushed out and easy to follow. Your explanations of the mechanics doesn't have any jargon; straight to the point. Thank you! The fact that I can now refer to this one video instead of multiple while I try to get better at Vergil is brilliant and very much appreciated!
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm incredibly glad so many people have found this video helpful. And yeah I tried to make it as clear cut as possible for that very reason.
Nah at this point you're gonna need to be disciplined to have this dedication to learn how to do advanced stuff with doppelganger, you can only do so much with motivation until you see that it ain't stable this guide is phenomal and made me appreciate vergil5 even more than ever
Thanks for the kind words! I'd say motivation and "dedication" go hand in hand tbh. For the longest time I had no idea how the doppelganger worked, so I didn't even bother to learn the mechanic. Then one day I just started analyzing what some doppelganger players were pressing during their combos and it all clicked and then all I had to do was apply that. However, ofc, it all sounds easy on paper, actually trying combos can be a hellish experience for 5000 reasons. So I guess if I hadn't gotten motivated to do learn the mechanic, I never would've been able to dedicate myself to it, if that makes any sense lol
@@donotcallmeyongbokiamchang3431 Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I was so mad and confused that there was NO GUIDE/TUTORIAL on the doppel anywhere. I had to figurd it out myself by studying advanced players' combos and carefully looking at their controls
One thing I'd like to add to the doppelganger section: If Vergil uses a Just Charge Beowulf attack, (meaning he performs an attack the instant Beowulf flashes), then the clone will do a Perfect Judgement Cut in sync with that Just Charge Beowulf attacks.
1:35:53 funny enough rising star and upperslash 2 are the only ones without a pjc window 1:41:32 it comes specifically when his animation pauses a bit also pjc is just vergil doing 3 jcs, look at the dmg, it's triple of the normal jc, his animation is basically normal jc's animation but there are 2 extras in that split second, it hits longer, almost as if there were 3 times more hits
Another thing about Just Frame(perfect) judgement cut, you can do it when using beowulf or mirage edge, you just need doppleganger for that. The timing is the same as when you are using yamato ... well that's what i think. Practice using beowulf first as the timing to release the button is when it gains a charge (which is also called "Just Charge" that deals more damage than normal). There is also another tech called DT cancel where you skip certain parts of a combo i.e. Yamato Combo A or Beowulf Combo B for faster SDT finishers. This only works for Vergil and Nero btw.
I haven't even watched the whole video, but your initial explanation seems good. I liked that you repeated it a lot, as I don't have English as my main language, so it's good for me to have this kind of in-depth explanation to understand correctly. You got a sub too. I started playing this game seriously with Vergil not long ago, and I was sad because I never found a perfect guide with basic mechanics and weapon switching situations. That was the first. Thank you very much!
Thank you so much. I've had a few people tell me how it's kind of annoying how I repeat myself a lot (and I completely understand them), but I did that for this exact reason (in case someone is not very familiar with Vergil or dmc's combat in general or if they don't speak English all that well or if they are simply slow to catch on) so I'm very thankful for your comment because it means the vid served its purpose. I hope you'll be able to understand everything. Also your English is great!
@@PECULIAR773 I'm happy about this, I decided to learn Vergil because I like the character all, since since DMC 3. Unfortunately, I'm used to using the keyboard to play. I don't know if I'll be able to do everything said in this guide or some different combos, but I'll try, until at least I can get a controller. And thanks for the compliment, I've been trying to improve my English and my skills in the language for a few years. It's good to know that I'm getting good results.
@@OtalTomBROh but I also play using the mouse and keyboard. I've never played this game on a controller. Idk if you only use the keyboard though. It shouldn't be a problem either way, because I have an entire section talking about my controls. So I'll say "right + attack button" because that should be universally comprehensible, so you just press the button you use for moving right + the button you use for attacking. And don't worry lol English isn't my first language either
@@PECULIAR773 I'm thinking about switching to a 60% keyboard. Do you think I'll still be able to play Devil May Cry smoothly? I don't want to use the mouse...
@@OtalTomBR Absolutely, I've seen quite a few advanced players use the keyboard (no mouse). In fact, most keyboard players only use the keyboard and using the mouse doesn't seem to be very common. And if they can make insanely stylish combos with Dante and Vergil, I'm sure you can too
For the even quicker perfect jc u just want to do it as soon as the attack animation ends. Right when he pauses and before he begins the recovery animation/ sheathing his sword. I never even knew there was 2 different perfect jcs i only knew about this one
@@PECULIAR773 for some reason the one before he sheaths his sword feels 10x easier. Ever since I seen this video I've been trying to practice the other one and I suck ass at it.
@@mannmann314 Some are actually impossible to do, at least for me, like yamato combo A in base. I try to time it and release the attack button the millisecond he sheathes his sword after flipping it and nothing
Thanks for the feedback! I say left/right/up/down because some people struggle to understand even the most basic aspects of the game, so the reason I oversimplify things is in case someone who has 0 understanding of the mechanics is watching the video and wants to try their luck eventually, even though saying "backwards" and "towards" would more than suffice
Its funny and annoying to me that there are more video tutorials about vergil than dante. Anyways thanks for the guide. Its very well made. I just wish there were more dante set up guides
Thanks man, glad you liked it! As for Dante, I spent all my time in this game mastering Dante before Vergil came out and I even managed to do 6 semi advanced combos with him. I can play Dante and Vergil on the same level but Dante is definitely 5000 times more time consuming when it comes to combos, simply because of the amount of things you have to do. I would have NO PROBLEM making a guide on Dante, but this guide wouldn't delve into any complex mechanics, it would just be a very basic guide going over his moves and attacks and their properties. I mean this Vergil guide is also fairly basic, the only thing I touch upon more is the doppelganger and there are still some other advanced mechanics out there for Vergil that I haven't covered in this video. I would highly recommend Conqvist Guides. He made so many useful guides on Dante and his weapons and different enemies, I think you would definitely find that helpful.
Sometimes autism can be weaponized and we get things like this. A 2.50 hour long video just to explain the 26516 other videos churned out in an obsessive frenzied craze!
Thanks for the suggestion, I might actually do that in the future, though I can't make any promises because for some reason every time I attempt to use the doppel weapon switcher my game crashes lol
Yo thanks! I wish I could say yes but I'm really bad with Nero lol. I'm good with Dante and Vergil but for some reason I've never been able to do stylish Nero combos. Hell, for some reason I can't even seem to get exceed down, even tho perfect royal guards and judgment cuts aren't a problem. On top of that I'm kinda "retired", I still have to analyze the 5 remaining Vergil combos and that's that. As for Nero combos, there are A LOT of advanced/professional DMC players who are still active (mostly on twitter, but also on youtube). Romanov, Michellegun201, Soli, Fumituki, Vanguard, etc. If you go to my combo video where I compiled all my combos, I credited the original creators in the description and you can check their channels out. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, trying to find DMC combos and professional players is insanely difficult. I tried typing in some of the names I've just mentioned and I wasn't able to find anything, it's kinda crazy how the algorithm works
Hey man just got recommanded this, and all i have to say just wow! Im def subbed I do have 1 question tho, how you "pro players" make camera work Sometimes camera and lock on randomly locks on another enemy from across the room even tho im still holding on to lock on button, it deives me crazy And since almost all the moves need directional input, camera randomly switching viewing angle screws me really hard I just need the camera angle and the lock on the way i setup it in the first place and stay that way If its mods, please tell me which mods u combo players are using, i really wanna dabble with them myself too
Thanks a lot for the sub man, appreciate it! I wouldn't call myself a "pro player" since I only copied and replicated the work of actual professional DMC players. They were the ones who actually CAME UP with all this crazy stuff. As for the camera, oh boi. I play on the mouse and keyboard as you can see, and in certain combos the camera is your biggest enemy. I'd wager 60% of the most common mistakes I make during combos are a direct result of the camera malfunctioning. Sometimes I will press forward + trick + attack button, but instead of judgment cut end or hell on earth, Vergil does AIR TRICK and teleports to the enemy. In my moist combo analysis, I dedicated an entire section of the video to one sequence that makes the combo nigh impossible. ruclips.net/video/VxYxYB_oQrE/видео.html (I timestamped it) The doppelganger is behind the enemy and is supposed to use void slash. Since he's behind the enemy, pressing forward + back + attack button (W+S+LMB) should cause the doppel to use void slash. HOWEVER, HE DOES RAPID SLASH OR UPPER SLASH INSTEAD, which is only UP+ ATTACK BUTTON or DOWN + ATTACK BUTTON. The game somehow registers the doppelganger as being on the LEFT side, despite him clearly being BEHIND the enemy. And sometimes even if I press LEFT+RIGHT+ATTACK BUTTON (A+D+LMB) it STILL doesn't work. It's clear that the camera has some massive issues in this game. The doppelganger itself is not the most difficult part, it's always the camera or some other inexplicable issue that causes you to fail over and over and over again. The moist combo should in theory be a pretty easy combo to do. YET THIS ONE SEGMENT makes it one of the hardest combos on the list simply because of the camera. And I can think of so many other combos with similar issues. But during gameplay I haven't experienced any major issues with the camera. I lock on to an enemy by holding shift and if I wanna lock onto another enemy I press CTRL to switch targets. However once I'm locked onto the enemy, I will continue to be locked on until I release the lock on button (shift) myself. It can sometimes be annoying to get the camera to lock onto the enemy you want, and instead it will lock onto some random enemy, but ONCE I'm locked on, I've never had this issue where the game would randomly lock onto another enemy.
Thanks! Yeah unfortunately he sometimes ignores inputs. I have no idea what this depends on, but I'm inclined to say it has sth to do with the camera angle. This game has a very weird issue with camera angles and sometimes the doppelganger doesn't register your inputs. This is something that I bring up A LOT during my combo analyses. Like either he ignores your inputs or he does something entirely different
Great guide but I can’t help but say I feel like this guide could be half as long lol You repeat yourself a lot. This is one of the few videos I’ve watched that I had to watch on 2X speed. And I expected more advanced stuff but I was a bit disappointed, the doppelgänger stuff was extremely helpful tho as there aren’t any guides on doppelgänger so thank you for that.
You are absolutely right LMAO. The intro, controls and outro are like 37 minutes long, and the doppel guide itself is like 35 minutes long. I was debating whether or not I should ONLY make this about the doppelganger but then I had this idea to cover all of Vergil's basic mechanics before talking about the doppel and then leave the rest for my individual combo analyses (I still have 6 more combos left to analyze). As for the repetition, believe me, I'm fully aware of that and it's completely intentional. Throughout my life I've been in a position where I would have to explain something but people wouldn't understand it and they'd complain about me being too fast. Recently I got a comment on one of my videos (my most viewed Prototype video), asking me how to trigger a certain animation, something which I have had to explain at least 50 times since 2014, and I even pinned my own comment on the video giving step by step instructions, but it wasn't enough for some people. This one dude recently asked me how to trigger that animation, I literally told him "just make sure you have no weapons equipped and press and hold the button you use to equip a weapon", but he kept saying it was confusing. I got so frustrated I had to make a private video JUST FOR HIM so he could see me do it. I even put it in slow motion and added subtitles and repeated the same thing like 20 times. And even then it was difficult for him to grasp. ruclips.net/video/GGtNhio4rEY/видео.html This is the video, in case you're wondering, you can give it a watch and tell me if you find any of this confusing LMAO So my past experiences have made me very "cautious", and that's why I decided to take this approach where I explain the same thing 5000 times so there's ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM FOR CONFUSION. But yeah I imagine how frustrating it must be for someone who actually has an in-depth understanding of the game. Sorry about that.
@@PECULIAR773 LMAO alright that’s understandable then. I actually got a bit pissed off at how much you repeated the same thing but now I just think it’s funny 😭 I get the frustration of explaining stuff to people who have no clue what they’re doing, I had to teach my bro how to do three consecutive judgment cuts and it was hell 💀 that guy had no reason to be so confused 💀💀💀 Niceeee I’m excited to see the combos you have left to analyze, I need to get back to playing Vergil a bit I’ve been playing a lil too much Dante recently so with these guides it should be quite fun and refreshing to learn new things with Verg. Also I like that you covered dmc’s new popularity and how it positively and negatively affected it. On one hand it’s extremely cool how popular it has become but it’s also kind of annoying how filled the game’s community has become to the point where anything that just looks slightly cool gets praised as the best ever when it isn’t even slightly impressive and gets way more attention than it should when you have extremely skilled people not even reaching 1K views on their combos. I don’t wanna throw any shade or say names but I was a part of the console doom eternal community and it pissed me off so much at how MSVR’s videos got millions of views and got called repeatedly the best console player when the guy is not bad at best meanwhile I and many other people were actually pushing the limit on what’s possible on that game with a controller, we reached a point to where we were actually better than pc players and started to come up with our own advanced techs. I know this sounds VERY elitist to most people but anyone who’s actually good at games would understand this feeling and I loved that you brought it up despite the back flash you could potentially receive but I think everyone should be able to say how they feel and I appreciate real ones like you.
@@the_mse Yeah LOOOOL explaining judgment cuts is literal hell, which is why even in this video I just say "YEAH BRO IT'S JUST MUSCLE MEMORY IDK WHAT TO TELL YA". As for DMC combos, I swear to god man I never cared about views, but seeing how many people tried to recreate "THE VERGIL COMBO" and how they failed at the most basic steps, yet got over 800k views and comments praising them as the best made me dizzy. Like BRO I LITERALLY RECREATED THAT COMBO PERFECTLY WITH NO ERRORS AND IT DIDN'T EVEN GET 500 VIEWS. Not to mention the amount of work I put into these combos and analyses, but I was like whatever. The DMC community is very chill and all, but they are very easily amazed by everything they see on the screen, even though they can't even differentiate between actual skill and using enemy step 800 times in the air. You mentioned being a part of the Doom Eternal console community and how you would get triggered at MSVR's videos getting tons of views and receiving an insane amount of praise. I loved Doom Eternal and I kinda wish I had sunk more hours into it since it was amazing, but I was familiar with how insane the console community can be in terms of skill. I'm kinda in the same boat for Naruto Storm 4. It's one of my favorite games, but people label it as a mashing game that requires zero skill because it's not a 2D fighter. But the advanced players in this game have discovered tech that literally makes the game rival DMC in terms of mechanical depth and complexity, it's absolutely insane. Unfortunately, the company doesn't care about their community enough to actually patch broken things in the game. But that aside, the most popular youtubers who make videos about Storm suck at the game. And I mean SUCK SUCK, like I was better than them when I first started playing agains the CPU. Yet their audience, which is full of people who are also impressionable noobs or have never actually played the game, praise these guys to oblivion and call their playstyle the PINNACLE of gameplay. And these youtubers speak so matter of factly that they come off as experts despite not having any idea what they're saying. I'm not an advanced player tho, but I understand the tech and have a friend who is one of the top players in the world and we both die of cringe whenever these people start talking like they're experts, and it hurts even more seeing so many people praising them without even knowing what the game is actually capable of and that advanced players exist, since they get like 500 subs tops. It's the same with DMC. You keep hearing about Donguri, but that's about it, and he doesn't even play the game, he mostly played DMC 4.
@@PECULIAR773 yeah that’s literally all judgment cutting is about muscle memory. You suck at it at first then you get good at it with time. That’s literally it. Yeah that just sucks. But you know what they say “it is what it is.” lol nothing we can do about it. Also yeah that’s 100% true I’ve seen so many people just use enemy step without actually thinking and it just looks spammy asf and without substance. Not to say it’s not skillful at all but it definitely doesn’t deserve 100K views lol like I’ve seen freestyle gameplay better than that. You should so give eternal another shot. My favorite game of all time tbh dmc 5 is a close second. I’ve got 3K hours on that game, the depth of it’s gameplay is crazy. Needless to say if you like killing demons with 8+ weapons you should definitely invest some time in eternal. Eternal’s main problem is how inconsistent it can sometimes be especially on console, once you get good enough the game simply cannot keep up with you and it gets very buggy and the inconsistent FPS doesn’t help. I’m so jealous of pc players because doom eternal on a pc would actually be a 10/10 game. And also another personal problem with eternal for me is it actually hurts to play for longer sessions, once you start constantly doing combos and techs on the move while managing every other mechanic your hands start to HURT HURT. At one point I started playing purposely worse for longer ultra nightmare runs lol TLDR: if you’ve got a pc don’t waste the chance to invest thousands of hours on eternal. I’m glad to hear some people heard the legends of console players on that game lol makes it feel like it was worth it. I did get a couple thousands of views on a couple actually skillful showcases of console doom eternal gameplay tho so that has helped me have faith lol I’m still pissed off that my most viewed video ever is a shitpost combo on a marauder, literally 0 skill and people were calling me lore accurate doom slayer and it lowkey pissed me off but on the other hand I got like 121K views so I couldn’t be so mad lol my second most viewed is actually a video I’m very proud of and it’s actually deserving of getting the attention it did. Around 50K views for an actual advanced combo made me pretty happy. Wait naruto storm 4 is actually good? I thought all anime games sucked lmao Is this the first anime game to not be a shitty cash grab? I’ve never heard about this
@@the_mse Oh yeah I knew Doom was gonna be my cup of tea the moment I laid eyes on it. I saw so many gameplay videos, some people doing crazy combos and I was like "ait I HAVE TO TRY THIS" and I did, and I loved it, but I started running out of space on my hard drive because of so many "projects" I'd been working on, so I had to uninstall it, but I still plan to eventually come back to it because I REALLY enjoyed it, it's definitely got that vibe where it makes you feel like a god on crack, and the depth of that game is insane. Eternal is such a labor of love, just like DMC. You literally FEEL like you're playing a game with insane quality and love put into it, and I'm a sucker for games that are mechanically complex yet easily accessible and make you feel like a complete badass. I've seen some mods that allow you to play some insane arenas so if and when I come back to the game, I'll most definitely try those out. As for Storm, yeah like 99% anime games suck, Storm 4 is great mechanically, but the game is plagued with issues. Horrible netcode, certain characters being incredibly overpowered to the point they're banned in "tournaments", inexplicable glitches happening from time to time. Playing online against randoms is pointless (at least on PC) because everyone has a red/yellow bar, which is a 2-3 second delay, if there is no delay, you get people who are complete noobs so you get 0 bp by beating them and you can't rank up. Either that or they're ragequitters. You can ragequit infinitely in this game and there's no penalty. In fact, if you're on a win streak and you need one more win to rank up, and your opponent rage quits, you streak resets and you gotta start from scratch. Also spammers who pick the most op characters that give them the edge over everyone, because the game is unbalanced. The company is lazy when it comes to making new characters and content, they keep recycling the same old stuff from 2008 and 2010 and they actually pride themselves on it. The company making that game doesn't give a damn about their players, and they recently openly said how they don't care about competitive players, even though they have been keeping their community afloat for 8 years now, releasing guides and doing tournaments and such. It'd be okay if they were greedy, at least they would release more content as DLC as a cashgrab, but no, they're too lazy for that, so they simply release a game and never support it and just let it die. I know I just shittalked this game to oblivion, but all that aside, the mechanical depth is insane and the pro players making use of this frequently play and those matches are insanely intense. Thing is, I'm sure the company who made the game didn't even intend for these mechanics to be in the game. They're essentially accidental glitches that elevated the game to this insane level, and they're not even aware of it. The modders do a better job than the company lol.
I'm kinda "retired" when it comes to DMC combos. I plan to analyze the 4 remaining Vergil combos I did and that will probably be that. On top of that I'm a Dante and Vergil main, I'm kinda bad with Nero and I don't play V at all. And additionally there are multiple Dante guides out there that go over his weapons and mechanics more in-depth than I ever could. Conqvist Guides, 2bepowerguide and ChaserTech are some of them. You should definitely check them out. HOWEVER, I did consider making a Dante guide, but that would only go over his weapons, moves and most basic mechanics, and I think you can find that anywhere. Still it's not out of the question, so I MIGHT make a Dante guide in the future, but for now I have more pressing matters to attend to and other videos that I gotta prioritize lol
Blud dropped an ALMOST THREE HOUR VIDEO for character tech in a non-competitive, singleplayer game.
Only in DMC you will find this bros. I love this community and this series
Imagine how long it'd have to be if it was a Dante guide LMFAO
@@PECULIAR773you'd get a master's thesis out of it 🤣
@@caveirainvocada9438 Funnily enough I was doing my master's thesis while making all those combos. The combos themselves took like 6 months to create (May-October 2022), but I started analyzing some of the combos as early as July 2022. I had to defend my thesis in December 2022, and I can confidently say that these combos and analyses were a bigger hassle LMFAO. I still have 6 more combos left to analyze but it's such a hassle and I'm procrastinating
The spiritual sequel to the 2bepowerguide finnaly dropped
2 minutes in, I just want to say thank you so much. This is going to be a fantastic well of resources to learning this character and getting better, which is what playing dmc5 past the campaign is all about.
Thanks bro, I srsly hope ppl find it helpful
This is absolutely underrated. You sir, deserve so many views. SSS
Thanks a lot! Glad you found it helpful.
Glad someone made a video on this dang
No problem, happy to help!
I started replaying DMC5 recently and progressed onto BP after almost no-damaging Dante in SOS. After losing @ Lv80, I decided to just learn up and do DMD, realized the enemies kick my ass so hard so I need to get stronger.
I spend this entire day basically just getting a grasp on certain things I had not yet like strafing, World of V, and (Perfect) Judgment Cuts. This guide is like the only one that really clicked with me on how Judgment Cutting works in terms of the two different releases, I'm still practicing but now I can chain 4 of them in the air more than half the time and if I'm really focused I just nail it. So thanks bro.
My favorite iteration of Perfect Judgment Cut is performing Void Slash at the end of a combo, and waiting to release until the slash basically detonates, then chain the extra JC's
No problem man, glad the video helped! And yeah the void slash JC is very straightforward, I like that one too. Now that you can chain up to 4 JCs in a row in the air, everything will get easier trust me. The timing on the ground is slightly different but once you get it down that's also not an issue
I actually watched this entire video, even though I already know most of what u covered, lol.
But I just love DMC that much!
But I did learn quite a bit of new stuff in the Doppelganger section. So I'd like to say thank you for that.
I'm leaving a like and subscribing, bc I like your style and I really like the combo analysis vids. I'm sure I'll learn a lot from those.
So keep it up! You're doing awesome work.
Thanks a lot man! I'm gonna analyze all of the 23 combos I did, I've already finished most of them (17/23), but I have yet to upload some of them because I need to add finishing touches. Then I'll analyze the remaining 6 in time
As a new player to Devil May Cry 5, (Only ever played DmC, loved the Vergil dlc so I bought this one just because he was playable) thank you, thank you, thank you. Was having a hard time finding beginner friendly guides for Vergil and I can’t wait to check out those combo analyses
THANKS! I made this guide for that very reason (there seem to be no Vergil guides online), so I'm glad you found it helpful
Kind guide for vergil players. Great works.
Thanks man
Extremely underrated youtuber. Please keep it up. You definitely have "it". Whatever "it" is.
Thanks for the kind words bro!
This video should have way more recognition and praise. You've put so much effort, detail, care and time into articulating a phenomenally put together guide which is well flushed out and easy to follow. Your explanations of the mechanics doesn't have any jargon; straight to the point. Thank you! The fact that I can now refer to this one video instead of multiple while I try to get better at Vergil is brilliant and very much appreciated!
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm incredibly glad so many people have found this video helpful. And yeah I tried to make it as clear cut as possible for that very reason.
Nah at this point you're gonna need to be disciplined to have this dedication to learn how to do advanced stuff with doppelganger, you can only do so much with motivation until you see that it ain't stable
this guide is phenomal and made me appreciate vergil5 even more than ever
Thanks for the kind words! I'd say motivation and "dedication" go hand in hand tbh. For the longest time I had no idea how the doppelganger worked, so I didn't even bother to learn the mechanic. Then one day I just started analyzing what some doppelganger players were pressing during their combos and it all clicked and then all I had to do was apply that. However, ofc, it all sounds easy on paper, actually trying combos can be a hellish experience for 5000 reasons. So I guess if I hadn't gotten motivated to do learn the mechanic, I never would've been able to dedicate myself to it, if that makes any sense lol
The context you added to this game is forever valid my friend thank you🙏🏾
Thanks bro! Glad you found it helpful!
OMG THANKSSSSSS!!! you're the first who explained in a video how to do the doppelganger to lock on while attacking onwards nd him not following
@@donotcallmeyongbokiamchang3431 Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I was so mad and confused that there was NO GUIDE/TUTORIAL on the doppel anywhere. I had to figurd it out myself by studying advanced players' combos and carefully looking at their controls
SSS, and again I will thank you for making this, you are amazing. Subbbed
Thanks! And you're welcome!
Vergil is the master of the art of combos
Thank u so much thats so valuable u deserve milions of views i hope u get what u deserve
Thanks for the kind words! Really appreciate it!
Great video helped out a lot for using doppelgänger I have a better understanding to put to practice now
Happy to hear it!
If doppelganger could swap weapons it'd be half the video
There's a mod that makes that possible LMAO
A goodly doppleganger user is woori noori he made a guide but it is in the korean language so theres that
Yeah he's amazing, he commented on this video actually
Great video been trying to get doppel, i would love to see some more imputs for set ups and desyncs.
Thanks! I've uploaded some of my doppelganger combo analyses, I still have 6 more combos to analyze, you can check some of the doppel setups there
a detailed guide that also doesn't talk about nothing for 99% of the video, thanks dude!
Glad you liked it! Though honestly the guide could've been half as long because the intro and outro are 30 minutes combined hahaha
free liquid gold, thank you so much for this amazing guide
No problem bro, glad you liked it!
One thing I'd like to add to the doppelganger section: If Vergil uses a Just Charge Beowulf attack, (meaning he performs an attack the instant Beowulf flashes), then the clone will do a Perfect Judgement Cut in sync with that Just Charge Beowulf attacks.
Yeap, I was gonna include that in the vid but there was so much to keep track of that I ended up forgetting lol
1:35:53 funny enough rising star and upperslash 2 are the only ones without a pjc window
1:41:32 it comes specifically when his animation pauses a bit
also pjc is just vergil doing 3 jcs, look at the dmg, it's triple of the normal jc, his animation is basically normal jc's animation but there are 2 extras in that split second, it hits longer, almost as if there were 3 times more hits
this guide is amazing thank you for your dedication you earned a sub (:
No problem bro and thanks!
Another thing about Just Frame(perfect) judgement cut, you can do it when using beowulf or mirage edge, you just need doppleganger for that. The timing is the same as when you are using yamato ... well that's what i think. Practice using beowulf first as the timing to release the button is when it gains a charge (which is also called "Just Charge" that deals more damage than normal).
There is also another tech called DT cancel where you skip certain parts of a combo i.e. Yamato Combo A or Beowulf Combo B for faster SDT finishers. This only works for Vergil and Nero btw.
Yep, I remembered that about a week after uploading the video. Was considering reuploading the whole thing for that one missed segment but oh well
Best video of all time
@@Nearthecos THANKS!
I haven't even watched the whole video, but your initial explanation seems good. I liked that you repeated it a lot, as I don't have English as my main language, so it's good for me to have this kind of in-depth explanation to understand correctly. You got a sub too. I started playing this game seriously with Vergil not long ago, and I was sad because I never found a perfect guide with basic mechanics and weapon switching situations. That was the first. Thank you very much!
Thank you so much. I've had a few people tell me how it's kind of annoying how I repeat myself a lot (and I completely understand them), but I did that for this exact reason (in case someone is not very familiar with Vergil or dmc's combat in general or if they don't speak English all that well or if they are simply slow to catch on) so I'm very thankful for your comment because it means the vid served its purpose. I hope you'll be able to understand everything. Also your English is great!
@@PECULIAR773 I'm happy about this, I decided to learn Vergil because I like the character all, since since DMC 3. Unfortunately, I'm used to using the keyboard to play. I don't know if I'll be able to do everything said in this guide or some different combos, but I'll try, until at least I can get a controller. And thanks for the compliment, I've been trying to improve my English and my skills in the language for a few years. It's good to know that I'm getting good results.
@@OtalTomBROh but I also play using the mouse and keyboard. I've never played this game on a controller. Idk if you only use the keyboard though. It shouldn't be a problem either way, because I have an entire section talking about my controls. So I'll say "right + attack button" because that should be universally comprehensible, so you just press the button you use for moving right + the button you use for attacking. And don't worry lol English isn't my first language either
@@PECULIAR773 I'm thinking about switching to a 60% keyboard. Do you think I'll still be able to play Devil May Cry smoothly? I don't want to use the mouse...
@@OtalTomBR Absolutely, I've seen quite a few advanced players use the keyboard (no mouse). In fact, most keyboard players only use the keyboard and using the mouse doesn't seem to be very common. And if they can make insanely stylish combos with Dante and Vergil, I'm sure you can too
i feel motivated!
For the even quicker perfect jc u just want to do it as soon as the attack animation ends. Right when he pauses and before he begins the recovery animation/ sheathing his sword. I never even knew there was 2 different perfect jcs i only knew about this one
Yeah there are like two versions. The one where you wait to sheathe your sword and one where you do it intuitively
@@PECULIAR773 for some reason the one before he sheaths his sword feels 10x easier. Ever since I seen this video I've been trying to practice the other one and I suck ass at it.
@@mannmann314 Oh don't worry, the timing is simply more strict with the sword sheathing method, you'll get the hang of it easily
@@PECULIAR773 yeah. It's just messes me up the way he delays some of them longer than an elden ring boss attack lol
@@mannmann314 Some are actually impossible to do, at least for me, like yamato combo A in base. I try to time it and release the attack button the millisecond he sheathes his sword after flipping it and nothing
You helped me as well. Thank you
You're welcome! I'm glad you found the video helpful
Bro just a suggestion for any possible future guides when explaining the direction inputs for moves, just say "away and toward"
Thanks for the feedback! I say left/right/up/down because some people struggle to understand even the most basic aspects of the game, so the reason I oversimplify things is in case someone who has 0 understanding of the mechanics is watching the video and wants to try their luck eventually, even though saying "backwards" and "towards" would more than suffice
Its funny and annoying to me that there are more video tutorials about vergil than dante. Anyways thanks for the guide. Its very well made.
I just wish there were more dante set up guides
Thanks man, glad you liked it! As for Dante, I spent all my time in this game mastering Dante before Vergil came out and I even managed to do 6 semi advanced combos with him. I can play Dante and Vergil on the same level but Dante is definitely 5000 times more time consuming when it comes to combos, simply because of the amount of things you have to do.
I would have NO PROBLEM making a guide on Dante, but this guide wouldn't delve into any complex mechanics, it would just be a very basic guide going over his moves and attacks and their properties. I mean this Vergil guide is also fairly basic, the only thing I touch upon more is the doppelganger and there are still some other advanced mechanics out there for Vergil that I haven't covered in this video.
I would highly recommend Conqvist Guides. He made so many useful guides on Dante and his weapons and different enemies, I think you would definitely find that helpful.
Sometimes autism can be weaponized and we get things like this.
A 2.50 hour long video just to explain the 26516 other videos churned out in an obsessive frenzied craze!
HELL YEAH, LET'S SHOOT FOR 12 HOURS
@@PECULIAR773 Continue doing the lord's work, you have my upvote!
@@aziouss2863 And you have my gratitude LMAO
Doppelgänger is just simulatenous equations
Also with mirage edge spin combo u can also do pjc right after spin ends even tho u are still using mirage edge
Yup, I know. I was gonna add a section where I discuss how you can do perfect JCs while having beowulf or the mirage edge equipped but I forgot xD
@@PECULIAR773 its all good 😁
Would you be covering siyans table with doppleganger weapon switcher where the doppel gets to use all the weapons ... props for the video ❤
Thanks for the suggestion, I might actually do that in the future, though I can't make any promises because for some reason every time I attempt to use the doppel weapon switcher my game crashes lol
Amazing video… would you consider doing one for Nero? I typed “Nero” combo and it’s been years since someone used the main character
Yo thanks! I wish I could say yes but I'm really bad with Nero lol. I'm good with Dante and Vergil but for some reason I've never been able to do stylish Nero combos. Hell, for some reason I can't even seem to get exceed down, even tho perfect royal guards and judgment cuts aren't a problem. On top of that I'm kinda "retired", I still have to analyze the 5 remaining Vergil combos and that's that.
As for Nero combos, there are A LOT of advanced/professional DMC players who are still active (mostly on twitter, but also on youtube). Romanov, Michellegun201, Soli, Fumituki, Vanguard, etc. If you go to my combo video where I compiled all my combos, I credited the original creators in the description and you can check their channels out. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, trying to find DMC combos and professional players is insanely difficult. I tried typing in some of the names I've just mentioned and I wasn't able to find anything, it's kinda crazy how the algorithm works
Hey man just got recommanded this, and all i have to say just wow! Im def subbed
I do have 1 question tho, how you "pro players" make camera work
Sometimes camera and lock on randomly locks on another enemy from across the room even tho im still holding on to lock on button, it deives me crazy
And since almost all the moves need directional input, camera randomly switching viewing angle screws me really hard
I just need the camera angle and the lock on the way i setup it in the first place and stay that way
If its mods, please tell me which mods u combo players are using, i really wanna dabble with them myself too
Thanks a lot for the sub man, appreciate it!
I wouldn't call myself a "pro player" since I only copied and replicated the work of actual professional DMC players. They were the ones who actually CAME UP with all this crazy stuff. As for the camera, oh boi. I play on the mouse and keyboard as you can see, and in certain combos the camera is your biggest enemy. I'd wager 60% of the most common mistakes I make during combos are a direct result of the camera malfunctioning. Sometimes I will press forward + trick + attack button, but instead of judgment cut end or hell on earth, Vergil does AIR TRICK and teleports to the enemy.
In my moist combo analysis, I dedicated an entire section of the video to one sequence that makes the combo nigh impossible.
ruclips.net/video/VxYxYB_oQrE/видео.html (I timestamped it)
The doppelganger is behind the enemy and is supposed to use void slash. Since he's behind the enemy, pressing forward + back + attack button (W+S+LMB) should cause the doppel to use void slash. HOWEVER, HE DOES RAPID SLASH OR UPPER SLASH INSTEAD, which is only UP+ ATTACK BUTTON or DOWN + ATTACK BUTTON. The game somehow registers the doppelganger as being on the LEFT side, despite him clearly being BEHIND the enemy. And sometimes even if I press LEFT+RIGHT+ATTACK BUTTON (A+D+LMB) it STILL doesn't work. It's clear that the camera has some massive issues in this game. The doppelganger itself is not the most difficult part, it's always the camera or some other inexplicable issue that causes you to fail over and over and over again. The moist combo should in theory be a pretty easy combo to do. YET THIS ONE SEGMENT makes it one of the hardest combos on the list simply because of the camera. And I can think of so many other combos with similar issues.
But during gameplay I haven't experienced any major issues with the camera. I lock on to an enemy by holding shift and if I wanna lock onto another enemy I press CTRL to switch targets. However once I'm locked onto the enemy, I will continue to be locked on until I release the lock on button (shift) myself. It can sometimes be annoying to get the camera to lock onto the enemy you want, and instead it will lock onto some random enemy, but ONCE I'm locked on, I've never had this issue where the game would randomly lock onto another enemy.
@@PECULIAR773 ty so much for the detailed answer!
At least its good to know that im not alone with the camera problems
@@bloodmoontalon No problem! It can be seriously annoying
Man, this video a gold, but I have question - doppelganger just ignoring some imputs, how fix this shit?
Thanks! Yeah unfortunately he sometimes ignores inputs. I have no idea what this depends on, but I'm inclined to say it has sth to do with the camera angle. This game has a very weird issue with camera angles and sometimes the doppelganger doesn't register your inputs. This is something that I bring up A LOT during my combo analyses. Like either he ignores your inputs or he does something entirely different
Big thanks!
@@RuinMokuJin No problem!
Great guide but I can’t help but say I feel like this guide could be half as long lol
You repeat yourself a lot. This is one of the few videos I’ve watched that I had to watch on 2X speed. And I expected more advanced stuff but I was a bit disappointed, the doppelgänger stuff was extremely helpful tho as there aren’t any guides on doppelgänger so thank you for that.
You are absolutely right LMAO. The intro, controls and outro are like 37 minutes long, and the doppel guide itself is like 35 minutes long. I was debating whether or not I should ONLY make this about the doppelganger but then I had this idea to cover all of Vergil's basic mechanics before talking about the doppel and then leave the rest for my individual combo analyses (I still have 6 more combos left to analyze).
As for the repetition, believe me, I'm fully aware of that and it's completely intentional. Throughout my life I've been in a position where I would have to explain something but people wouldn't understand it and they'd complain about me being too fast. Recently I got a comment on one of my videos (my most viewed Prototype video), asking me how to trigger a certain animation, something which I have had to explain at least 50 times since 2014, and I even pinned my own comment on the video giving step by step instructions, but it wasn't enough for some people. This one dude recently asked me how to trigger that animation, I literally told him "just make sure you have no weapons equipped and press and hold the button you use to equip a weapon", but he kept saying it was confusing. I got so frustrated I had to make a private video JUST FOR HIM so he could see me do it. I even put it in slow motion and added subtitles and repeated the same thing like 20 times. And even then it was difficult for him to grasp. ruclips.net/video/GGtNhio4rEY/видео.html This is the video, in case you're wondering, you can give it a watch and tell me if you find any of this confusing LMAO
So my past experiences have made me very "cautious", and that's why I decided to take this approach where I explain the same thing 5000 times so there's ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM FOR CONFUSION. But yeah I imagine how frustrating it must be for someone who actually has an in-depth understanding of the game. Sorry about that.
@@PECULIAR773 LMAO alright that’s understandable then.
I actually got a bit pissed off at how much you repeated the same thing but now I just think it’s funny 😭 I get the frustration of explaining stuff to people who have no clue what they’re doing, I had to teach my bro how to do three consecutive judgment cuts and it was hell 💀 that guy had no reason to be so confused 💀💀💀
Niceeee I’m excited to see the combos you have left to analyze, I need to get back to playing Vergil a bit I’ve been playing a lil too much Dante recently so with these guides it should be quite fun and refreshing to learn new things with Verg.
Also I like that you covered dmc’s new popularity and how it positively and negatively affected it. On one hand it’s extremely cool how popular it has become but it’s also kind of annoying how filled the game’s community has become to the point where anything that just looks slightly cool gets praised as the best ever when it isn’t even slightly impressive and gets way more attention than it should when you have extremely skilled people not even reaching 1K views on their combos.
I don’t wanna throw any shade or say names but I was a part of the console doom eternal community and it pissed me off so much at how MSVR’s videos got millions of views and got called repeatedly the best console player when the guy is not bad at best meanwhile I and many other people were actually pushing the limit on what’s possible on that game with a controller, we reached a point to where we were actually better than pc players and started to come up with our own advanced techs. I know this sounds VERY elitist to most people but anyone who’s actually good at games would understand this feeling and I loved that you brought it up despite the back flash you could potentially receive but I think everyone should be able to say how they feel and I appreciate real ones like you.
@@the_mse Yeah LOOOOL explaining judgment cuts is literal hell, which is why even in this video I just say "YEAH BRO IT'S JUST MUSCLE MEMORY IDK WHAT TO TELL YA". As for DMC combos, I swear to god man I never cared about views, but seeing how many people tried to recreate "THE VERGIL COMBO" and how they failed at the most basic steps, yet got over 800k views and comments praising them as the best made me dizzy. Like BRO I LITERALLY RECREATED THAT COMBO PERFECTLY WITH NO ERRORS AND IT DIDN'T EVEN GET 500 VIEWS. Not to mention the amount of work I put into these combos and analyses, but I was like whatever. The DMC community is very chill and all, but they are very easily amazed by everything they see on the screen, even though they can't even differentiate between actual skill and using enemy step 800 times in the air.
You mentioned being a part of the Doom Eternal console community and how you would get triggered at MSVR's videos getting tons of views and receiving an insane amount of praise. I loved Doom Eternal and I kinda wish I had sunk more hours into it since it was amazing, but I was familiar with how insane the console community can be in terms of skill.
I'm kinda in the same boat for Naruto Storm 4. It's one of my favorite games, but people label it as a mashing game that requires zero skill because it's not a 2D fighter. But the advanced players in this game have discovered tech that literally makes the game rival DMC in terms of mechanical depth and complexity, it's absolutely insane. Unfortunately, the company doesn't care about their community enough to actually patch broken things in the game. But that aside, the most popular youtubers who make videos about Storm suck at the game. And I mean SUCK SUCK, like I was better than them when I first started playing agains the CPU. Yet their audience, which is full of people who are also impressionable noobs or have never actually played the game, praise these guys to oblivion and call their playstyle the PINNACLE of gameplay. And these youtubers speak so matter of factly that they come off as experts despite not having any idea what they're saying. I'm not an advanced player tho, but I understand the tech and have a friend who is one of the top players in the world and we both die of cringe whenever these people start talking like they're experts, and it hurts even more seeing so many people praising them without even knowing what the game is actually capable of and that advanced players exist, since they get like 500 subs tops.
It's the same with DMC. You keep hearing about Donguri, but that's about it, and he doesn't even play the game, he mostly played DMC 4.
@@PECULIAR773 yeah that’s literally all judgment cutting is about muscle memory. You suck at it at first then you get good at it with time. That’s literally it.
Yeah that just sucks. But you know what they say “it is what it is.” lol nothing we can do about it.
Also yeah that’s 100% true I’ve seen so many people just use enemy step without actually thinking and it just looks spammy asf and without substance. Not to say it’s not skillful at all but it definitely doesn’t deserve 100K views lol like I’ve seen freestyle gameplay better than that.
You should so give eternal another shot. My favorite game of all time tbh dmc 5 is a close second. I’ve got 3K hours on that game, the depth of it’s gameplay is crazy. Needless to say if you like killing demons with 8+ weapons you should definitely invest some time in eternal. Eternal’s main problem is how inconsistent it can sometimes be especially on console, once you get good enough the game simply cannot keep up with you and it gets very buggy and the inconsistent FPS doesn’t help. I’m so jealous of pc players because doom eternal on a pc would actually be a 10/10 game. And also another personal problem with eternal for me is it actually hurts to play for longer sessions, once you start constantly doing combos and techs on the move while managing every other mechanic your hands start to HURT HURT. At one point I started playing purposely worse for longer ultra nightmare runs lol
TLDR: if you’ve got a pc don’t waste the chance to invest thousands of hours on eternal.
I’m glad to hear some people heard the legends of console players on that game lol makes it feel like it was worth it. I did get a couple thousands of views on a couple actually skillful showcases of console doom eternal gameplay tho so that has helped me have faith lol I’m still pissed off that my most viewed video ever is a shitpost combo on a marauder, literally 0 skill and people were calling me lore accurate doom slayer and it lowkey pissed me off but on the other hand I got like 121K views so I couldn’t be so mad lol my second most viewed is actually a video I’m very proud of and it’s actually deserving of getting the attention it did. Around 50K views for an actual advanced combo made me pretty happy.
Wait naruto storm 4 is actually good? I thought all anime games sucked lmao Is this the first anime game to not be a shitty cash grab? I’ve never heard about this
@@the_mse Oh yeah I knew Doom was gonna be my cup of tea the moment I laid eyes on it. I saw so many gameplay videos, some people doing crazy combos and I was like "ait I HAVE TO TRY THIS" and I did, and I loved it, but I started running out of space on my hard drive because of so many "projects" I'd been working on, so I had to uninstall it, but I still plan to eventually come back to it because I REALLY enjoyed it, it's definitely got that vibe where it makes you feel like a god on crack, and the depth of that game is insane. Eternal is such a labor of love, just like DMC. You literally FEEL like you're playing a game with insane quality and love put into it, and I'm a sucker for games that are mechanically complex yet easily accessible and make you feel like a complete badass. I've seen some mods that allow you to play some insane arenas so if and when I come back to the game, I'll most definitely try those out.
As for Storm, yeah like 99% anime games suck, Storm 4 is great mechanically, but the game is plagued with issues. Horrible netcode, certain characters being incredibly overpowered to the point they're banned in "tournaments", inexplicable glitches happening from time to time. Playing online against randoms is pointless (at least on PC) because everyone has a red/yellow bar, which is a 2-3 second delay, if there is no delay, you get people who are complete noobs so you get 0 bp by beating them and you can't rank up. Either that or they're ragequitters. You can ragequit infinitely in this game and there's no penalty. In fact, if you're on a win streak and you need one more win to rank up, and your opponent rage quits, you streak resets and you gotta start from scratch. Also spammers who pick the most op characters that give them the edge over everyone, because the game is unbalanced. The company is lazy when it comes to making new characters and content, they keep recycling the same old stuff from 2008 and 2010 and they actually pride themselves on it. The company making that game doesn't give a damn about their players, and they recently openly said how they don't care about competitive players, even though they have been keeping their community afloat for 8 years now, releasing guides and doing tournaments and such. It'd be okay if they were greedy, at least they would release more content as DLC as a cashgrab, but no, they're too lazy for that, so they simply release a game and never support it and just let it die.
I know I just shittalked this game to oblivion, but all that aside, the mechanical depth is insane and the pro players making use of this frequently play and those matches are insanely intense. Thing is, I'm sure the company who made the game didn't even intend for these mechanics to be in the game. They're essentially accidental glitches that elevated the game to this insane level, and they're not even aware of it. The modders do a better job than the company lol.
can you do one on the other characters?
I'm kinda "retired" when it comes to DMC combos. I plan to analyze the 4 remaining Vergil combos I did and that will probably be that. On top of that I'm a Dante and Vergil main, I'm kinda bad with Nero and I don't play V at all. And additionally there are multiple Dante guides out there that go over his weapons and mechanics more in-depth than I ever could. Conqvist Guides, 2bepowerguide and ChaserTech are some of them. You should definitely check them out.
HOWEVER, I did consider making a Dante guide, but that would only go over his weapons, moves and most basic mechanics, and I think you can find that anywhere. Still it's not out of the question, so I MIGHT make a Dante guide in the future, but for now I have more pressing matters to attend to and other videos that I gotta prioritize lol
Actually I've changed my mind, I'll probably make a Dante guide down the line. I just don't know when exactly.
@@PECULIAR773 amazing
How did you get that bloody area at 9:23? is it a bloody palace or void mod or something?
Yeap it's called "bloodier palace", you can find it on nexus
@@PECULIAR773Thank you!
@@Togawa444 no problem!