@Robin Todd was still Todd when he was with Bojack. Living with Bojack didn’t stop him from starting businesses with Mr. Peanutbutter, impressing Quentin Tarantulino or coming out as asexual. Todd never cut Bojack out of his life either. They were still friends when he did everything else. While Bojack wasn’t good for Todd’s growth I don’t agree with your assessment
@@kevinmccabe3984 Yes, but they weren't as close after Bojack sabotaged Todds opera. When Todd discovered it, he distanced himself and moved to Carolyn, he didn't cut off Bojack, but lessened his friend's presence in his life. He is definitely better off without Bojack around him 24/7. Bojack was very toxic, if you put the comedy away, he was neglecting and insulting Todd, sabotaged his almost successful projects or made fun of them so Todd could never be successful, got happy and moved away, because if he did, Bojack would be alone with his thoughts and couldn't vent his anger on someone who is dependent on him. Todd matured without Bojack, because Bojack was the enabler of his carelessness, laziness and infantility
They somewhat became friends again, or natural at least. In the final episode he basically tells Bojack "we won't ever be what we were, but I want you part of my life again"
I didn’t realize how badly I needed to hear that - “your labels are meant to describe you. not define you.” That really made an impact on me. Great video.
@@Steven9567Potential sexual partners, which is currently thought of as the "default" romantic relationship in America. Having a quick word to communicate your disinterest is definitely helpful for pairing expectations.
Todd is without a shadow of a doubt the best, kindest and purest person in the show. Nobody is talking about how in "Hooray! Todd episode", we can actually see all the things he's doing for others, all the little ways in which he's looking after them and helping them. And with no recognition, nobody even notices. He gets shot down more than anything else. Yet he still does it, because he's not doing it for gratitute or because he has some ulterior motives. He's just... kind, and cares about people. He does it automatically, without thought. And he asks for so little to be happy. Todd is a blessing to us all.
6:44 "Whoever you are, and whatever label you may hold. Know that it is only meant to describe you, not define you." Couldn't have said it better. True words, my friend, true words
I am an aspie, but I feel like an insult when people think I have no feelings or lack of respect for other prople's feelings and that phrase caused a big impact for me, I am actually crying of happiness
Is this the time where you said you will be coming to the skating rink but instead you went to the strip club and skate there? Bojack: no Todd: then hurray!
I love how Todd just tipped his millions away and... He's not sad! He is happy with his life. ... Or at least neither money nor sex really matter to him. Something that complicates life for a lot of the other characters
Honestly, he's a pretty cool person and a really interesting secondary character to explore in this show, for pretty much the reasons you mention. In many ways he's the opposite of Bojack, money, fame, and sex do not interest him at all, yet he's driven to do all sorts of ambitious projects in the Hollywoo setting known for being all about those things. Those motivations are all pursuits of short term comfort Bojack frequently did awful things to indulge in, and maybe he's drawn to Todd due to trying to see what keeps him from making those same mistakes.
Todd is, undoubtedly, the most enjoyable, charming and surprisingly realistic character in the show, and literally every second of screen time he has improves whatever episode he’s in. In my opinion
I felt like the story of Todd coming out was really done in the best possible way because, as you’ve said, it’s not about sexuality, it’s about labels. Or rather, it’s about identity. Todd doesn’t want to give a name to this aspect of himself that he’s only just discovered and he especially doesn’t want that name to come from someone other than himself, but he comes to realize that it’s not a title, just a trait. More importantly, he doesn’t accept the title until HE feels comfortable with it, so he comes out to himself just as much as anyone else. This was the best way to do something this (and I rarely use this word) groundbreaking. Really one of the best episodes imo. I just wish that they didn’t also completely shit on sex positivity in other episodes.
Gabriel Schleifer I do agree with you for the most part, but, assuming we’re thinking of the same episodes, idk if they necessarily shat on sex positivity. Maybe it’s that I myself am ace, but I felt it more showed how scary it can be to not fit into the societal norm. It was hyperbolic, as the show usually is, but society does often focus on sex, and given how little asexual representation there is in general, it really made myself and fellow ace people feel less alone.
@@leelubell9080 I'm at the other end of the spectrum entirely re:Sexual energy, that being said, I'm not one of those who advocates the level of sexual expression that is found in our greater society. Part of why you see it so strongly however is we have an extreme urge to repress it. "But it's EVERYWHERE" I hear you say, exactly. Because we're not allowed to enjoy it, talk about it, or share it openly with each other. That's the real draw of the Sex in Marketing approach. It's the fact that it's a big open secret. Porn is one of if not the biggest growth industry in the media sphere and yet 'no one watches it' if you ask them. We know it's a vice but we don't know how to honestly and earnestly express ourselves. We're all trapped in a miasma, where honest expressions of our desires are met with attacks. It's obvious to you, because it's an energy you're not super interested in, it's like if you didn't like Onions and someone served you Mashed Potatoes with Onions in it, you'd be annoyed and your mind would notice all the onions more than the potatoes or any of the other ingredients. However it's also like this guy tossed in 9 onions worth of Onions because it truly is incredibly saturated. The issue many have is they think Sex is purely procreative, they don't acknowledge that sexuality is an expression of your identity and that your identity is a fluid thing, it changes. That's partly why I find these kinds of character reviews so interesting, we like growth but then we get mad at them over petty things. Like, the whole point of Character Growth is acknowledging that part of yourself that wants to change. And if it's in _you_, why wouldn't it be in others? Our whole society has a deeply rooted Victimhood complex, where someone HAS to be the Bad Guy and someone else HAS to be the Good Guy and unfortunately since we think of our lives like a story, who we are and what we want is often boiled down to such simplistic terminology, which serves no one. Back to my original point though, one of the major causes of Mental Illness is a lack of sexual intimacy and genuine love and affection. In some human cultures, it's considered more intimate to Hug someone than it is to have sex with them. In no way am I advocating such a change, just explaining how puritanical our society is whilst simultaneously being immensely hypocritical. Most of our species loves porn but hates Sex Workers. We love Sexuality but shame each other for our interests(or at times, like yourself, lack therein). We have a biological imperative to partake in it and express it, but society makes it ok to shame each other over it. It's a serious mess. I think the real reason you're not going to 'feel represented' is because it's very much a minority case as well, Sex is a Passionate, Fiery energy that underlies most of our motivations, whether we consciously acknowledge them or not. At the same time, as I said in the beginning, I'm on the other end of the spectrum, I'm an intensely sexual person. I see and feel it in the air around me. It's an eternal dance and like all dances, sometimes you have people who just want to watch or partake in other things, who just don't care for dancing. Nothing wrong with that, just happens to be that most people Love the Dance, they just don't get to express it properly. That being said, I do agree, there's far too much of it in the Media, but as I said, simultaneously, it shames us for feeling the way we do. It's a strange dual edged blade.
Todd's also the only character on tv that I know of that is in-show defined to be asexual- House included two characters, but both were fakeouts and meant to be commentaries on how you know. Asexual people are fake. So Bojack Horseman including not one but MULTIPLE examples of asexual people was really amazing to see, and I hope we see more like that.
There is an ace character on sirens and its an ok representation but is also used as a joke a lot which kinda sucks. The characters name is voodoo and some people don't like her because she is creepy and weird and people think that the writers are trying to say she is that way because she is ace but I see them as unrelated character traits :)
It's so rare that people don't even think they're real, even people who fit the label. Even Todd isn't a perfect example though. He's a good guy, and one of the most purely "kind" characters on the show, but he is repeatedly depicted as irresponsible and childish. He is still overall a "positive" depiction of an asexual person, but he definitely still leans into negative traits that are tied to the label, like being undeveloped as an adult, and really oblivious to relationship cues.
@@lilpetz500 Well, he's just one character. People need to start understanding that representation can't possibly represent every single individual of said demographic because well, we're all individuals! A character who happens to be asexual is just that, a character who happens to be asexual. All his or her other traits aren't really tied to their sexuality and shouldn't be, because sexual orientation isn't a personality trait. And even if Todd is seen as childish, he is emotionally very mature and the series sides with him most of the time. If you're so concerned about this childishness of his, feature which is portrayed in a positive light as something that makes him the kind-hearted and creative mind that he is, then what about Yolanda? She had her spotlight and was a pretty standard, accommodated adult who also mostly behaved very maturely, especially when the two broke up in good terms. Her most "childish" attitude was her unwillingness to discuss her sexuality with her family, which is actually not unfounded as we have all been in the position of not wanting to disappoint our family or people who we want to feel proud of us. And in the end, she did disclose it and everything went fine.
It's very similar to jugheads asexual story in the original Archie comics. There's a show of it now but the creators straight up said "we dont know how to write an asexual character so we will make him straight" 🙃 the show is garbage anyways so not a loss
I agree with everything said here! I felt the same way Todd did went I realized that I was asexual-I didn’t really like the label and it made me feel kind of scared to tell people because I didn’t know what they’d think of me. However, watching this show and with other people’s encouragement, I’m learning to accept myself for what I am. Thanks for the video :)
I thought Todd was a slacker and the irony is that he does all kind of things real life slackers won't do (start businesses, being professional, etc). So yeah, the sweater, the slow speech pattern and the tuque are clearly there to frame him with a label: slacker.
He is a slacker don't knowing about his potential. He is like Diane just without self discipline and healthy boundaries for himself. He is just selfless.
@@vsatonthebeat4101 but is Diane really a slacker. Think about Diane is a very successful Ghost writer and journalist. she's sold millions of best selling books that are critically acclaimed. She's written multiple hard hitting articles that became the main topic of public discourse for weeks. Somtimes even starting entire political movements. She been a guest on multiple cable news channels. Her problem on why she doesn't feel or seem happy with her career is because her name isn't on any of her books and the news publications she's worked for have all been low brow bullshit like that knock off feminist BuzzFeed. It's not success that Diane doesn't have it's recognition. Despite everything she's done Diane at the end of her career when she's no longer in the spotlight not a single person is going to remember who the heck Diane Nguyen is. _She's a nobody_
@@qazwsxedc562 I don’t think she cares about recognition like BoJack. Her problem is that she doesn’t feel like she’s making a real, good, meaningful impact on the damaged world with her life. It’s the main thing she worries about. No matter how many columns she writes, it doesn’t seem to change anything. When she couldn’t handle being in the middle of a war zone, she gave up on making the world a better place because she felt like nothing was good enough. She began to recover fully by the end of the series by ending up okay for now making a small-scale change with her book series.
Having an asexual character in media OPENLY SAYING that they're asexual and GOING IN DEPTH on how that doesn't define them is so relieving to me, a fellow Asexual. Props to Bojack Horseman :)
Todd's representation of the community really is huge. Like a main character of a popular show not only has buildup/exploration of their identity before coming out in a really vulnerable but accurate scene, but then the series follows up with wonderful development on that exploring further than just the initial acceptance. And makes the asexual character one of the people in the show with an established personality and very likeable presence, that does not fade out behind this label, he very much keeps being the same person after coming out, just more comfortable.
tod's sucsses and happiness, i think, is a contrast to bojack and his endless desire to be liked by everybody, and all of the shitty things he's willing to do to try and make that happen. tod doesnt care about how others think of him, he doesn't second guess himself and if he has a problem, he actually handles it like an adult despite his more childish characteristics. his emotional maturity, which was shown through his relationship with yolanda and his ongoing relationship with emily, not to mention his undying faith in bojack, is such a stark contrast to bojack its almost too funny. but what makes tod so great is that he's made out to be this annoying, dumb character when really he is the smartest and most sucssesful out of many of them. again, proving that labels are only meant to describe us, not define us ;)
Correct me if I am wrong, but in one episode it is implied that Todd’s success is due to him being white and getting everything easily in contrast to his hispanic father
@@virensdd Stepfather. Yes, this was implied, but that doesn't mean that Cabracadabra was a bad idea. Yes, he accidentally gave it all away, but he was still in a good emotional place.
Todd being revealed as asexual honestly hit me so fucking hard. Him saying how good it felt to say that he was an asexual person out loud is how I felt when I said that I was a trans man out loud to someone else. I can't help but imagine a lot of the lgbt+ audience who had struggled with accepting themselves whether it be for being gay, bi, trans, nonbinary, or like Todd asexual felt the exact same way. "You're labels are meant to describe you, not define you" is a perfect way to describe his arc of coming to terms with his asexuality.
Todd helped me realize that i am asexual, it's not something you can work on, you cant just 'get in the habit of it' i just have no desire for sex, i talked it over with my partner and we choose to still be in a sexually active relationship together but it has opened up a conversation. I don't really like Todd, he's too carefree for my liking, but he is great representation
I always saw Todd’s success as a large part of Bojack’s themes. All the other main characters think they need fame and success to be happy, but end up more alone and depressed when they get what they want. Todd, however, never truly seeks fame and fortune and just wants to find a purpose in life. As such, he is shown to be incredibly happy and optimistic and gains success because he doesn’t actively seek fame to find happiness. He’s just happy to be alive. Also, this was a great video and I loved the analysis of Todd’s character arc, especially when you discussed Todd’s exploration of his sexuality!
I think that Todd is a perfect example of what I think of when I think entrepreneur. He is his own person, he has made himself. Independent and with his own volition, and excessively creative, always making new connections between ideas and then testing them.
This is kinda off topic but I kinda want to see one of these on Rutabaga Rabbitowitz. I think there's enough there. As a person who understands that his career is dog-eat-dog (or in this case cat-eat-rabbit), he does what he can to get ahead. The movie star speech states his way of thinking. Princess Carolyn, even though we are kinda put in a position to think of her as a protagonist DID screw him over. I especially loved the line "we're gonna come out on top, because we're the good guys". Because he firmly believes this to be true. From his perspective he gave PC the opportunity to advance in her career and she did take everything from him. And he was hurt, sure. But he probably gave himself the movie star speech and bounced back from this betrayal. Later In the show, you can see he holds no personal grudge with PC and works just as well with her as he did before she took his company. It's not about her. He's the main character in his story. He understands that everyone is the main character in their own story, and when PC took the company from him, he understood that it was just business. It was the part of the story where he gets his heart broken and people treated him like shit, but it had to happen that way, otherwise in the end when he gets everything he's ever wanted, it won't feel as rewarding. Is he a good person though? Of course not, but that's kinda the theme of this show.
That as well as how Venessa Gecko never actually hated PC, I think PC's personal feelings about both her "competitors" is something to be explored for sure
I don't exactly hate labels. But when I think the ones that fit me cause more harm than good because there's so many, and tend to require more to fully explain. I could be referred to as simply trans. Or because that implies binary, non binary. More specifically I could say genderfluid. But people have a specific between the binary genders view of that. So I'd need to go further with being between demigirl, androgyne, agender, and maverique. At which point everyone not close enough to bring the exact same as me writes me off as a "snowflake" or "made up" or "needing a label for everything". So then I'm back to just leaving it as trans or non binary and not really correcting when people assume wrongly. Then you add in orientation, which gets complicated when you aren't guilt binary. I mean I'm a lesbian. Except I'm not always even feminine aligned and many lesbians do not like trans or non binary period using the term. And I'm not exclusively attracted to women, I'm just not attracted to masculinity. So I'm bi. But that tends to imply binary genders. If you're non binary or aren't a bigot you aren't bisexual, you're pan. (Obviously not my view but a confrontation I have far too often). And why would you even call yourself bi if you aren't attracted to women? Fine let's get some tumblr terms. That'll work out great. (The most accurate one being neptunic which always needs to be defined when it's used). Oh and also I can't really tell from aesthetic appreciation alone if I'll take eve the slightest interest in courting someone and I don't feel -sexually aroused- by people that I'm not bonded with. Which means asexual fits. Or more specifically grey aroace. And more specific than that, sapiosexual. As I do not form attraction to anyone without bonding over special interests and sharing opinions, views, debating, etc back and forth. As peers from art least a similar stand point. (This is in contrast to demisexual which is similar but based more on friendship and developing platonic attachments. As emotional attachments don't really predict whether I'll develop attraction or not). And let me tell you how fun it is to call yourself sapiosexual with -that- baggage. Add in Neptunic. Add in 4-6 non binary genders (depends on if you count gender fluid and genderqueer). And yeah I need an essay every single time I even touch on my gender and orientation. And just for fun I'm a relationship anarchist which is a subset of solo poly which is a subset of polyamory which is itself a subset of non monogamy. All of which tend to itself be defined as well due to misconceptions and vitriol. It's complicated. And sometimes I just want to stick with "queer" and avoid any specific, strictly defined, strictly divided, labels. Because using labels us exhausting and I don't anyways want to do that.
Fox, I feel the exact same way as you as an arospec asexual mspec person. I wish I had more people to discuss this with because wow... it sucks so bad having to pull out a PowerPoint presentation every time I want to come out to a friend or someone else. It's nice knowing I'm not alone in how I feel. Btw, your discussion on the subsets of polyamory made me realise that I'm also a relationship anarchist- I already knew I never valued 'crushes' over my friends but I finally have a word to encompass how I feel about the relationship 'hierarchy'. Thank you so much for the indirect help (':
"I'm not comfortable with dating someone who is asexual." Yikes, it hurts how much of that can be true, it's really sad. A lot of people look at sex as a big part of a relationship, when in reality a relationship can theoretically survive without it. Relationships are about connections, understanding, compromise, friendship and trust. Sex is just a plus in a relationship, it's not necessary for a healthy and loving relationship. I'm sorry, my younger twin sisters are ace, so it felt right bringing it up.
I will never really understand people who state that sex in a relationship is essential. I have a friend who is married, has a teenage son and would actually think about divorce if sex won't be a part of her marriage anymore. In my logic it shouldn't really matter because you marry for love and not for sex. Heck, she even complained to me that her son is 15 years old and still doesn't show interest in a relationship and eventually might come out as asexual. She doesn't care if he comes out as gay, bi or trans but asexuality would be her worst nightmare. Honestly, I really pity people who can't think outside the box and are so convinced that sex and relationships are as important as breathing. It just shows how society conditions people into thinking that finding a partner is the only thing that makes us whole
@@NoxAtlas Yikes, don't take this the wrong why, but I'm pretty sure your friend is just a huge b**ch! That's horrible, even if you are aphobic, you should learn to accept and learn more more about your child. Even if it is just an exception. And why the hell would she consider a divorce?! Even if the SO is super supportive and kind?!
Because the definition of love is different for different people.. In yours sex is absent, but in mine it is not. Unlike the lady in the other comment, I wont straight up divorce if sex isn't there..but I would try to find a compromise..and if it still does not work..then I will happily divorce for sex. Like..why not,? Why cant I be happy. Sex+connection+mental stimulation is important for me..if anyone is missing I am out. For you its just the above situation just minus sex. Good for you. That's why we are two different people with completely different charecterestics and name and culture and brains.
@@NoxAtlas ok I disagree with the initial comment. Yes it's not essential but you can't blame others for wanting sex. You can judge them though. jk (or am I) But for a parent TO NOT SUPPORT their child? I really fucking hope she isn't bad in all other categories. for the kid's sake
Thank you! My dad doesn't believe in labels but I believe your method of labels but I couldn't clearly discribe it. When I thought like my dad I thought I was gay. It didn't make me happy. But when I gave up letting labels define me and just be small description I realized I was asexual and trans. The topic of labels defining you or you defining them is very debatable due to the fact it's in our nature to see them first. We all think differently so this debate has no soild ground on either side. You just kinda have to live it your way.
Textured No exaggeration... When I first watched this show, I was so fascinated that I found myself watching it over and over again every time I sat down with my tablet. I lost count after 10 straight runs. Although, that was just the first 3 seasons.
Great video and analysis as always! Please never use the sound effect you used at the 2:48 mark again, it completely broke the calm and quiet tone of the video.
It is actually because of Todd that I realized that I was Asexual. I had friends who were Asexual, and thought that I was purely a straight girl, in love with a man. I was married for two years and not realizing I was ace. I always felt ashamed and weird that I wasn't sexually attracted to my husband, and I, more often than not, didn't want sex. When my husband would come on to me, I'd deflect awkwardly or change the subject. Watching Bojack Horseman, I saw the same behaviors in Todd. When they labeled Todd as Asexual, and when he accepted the lable, it was a total "ah-ha" moment in my head. I was Asexual, this is what an Asexual person could look like! I love my husband and we are still married, he just has a better understanding about me. I wouldn't have married him if I didn't love him, after all, and he finds me very attractive. We may not get up to doing it much, but from time to time, it happens. He totally accepts me for who I am, and never pushes me into doing anything I don't want to do. As compensation, I don't judge him for viewing porn or having hentai games on his laptop, and he sometimes tells me about these games, and his friends are quite confused as to how or why I'm okay with this. Well, he's not the Asexual one, and he's not having an affair, so I view it as being totally fair. I work for Starbucks, a job I absolutely love. As many people are aware, Starbucks is very pro-pride. We had a pride week in June, and I did some funky things with my makeup in my colors. It was horrendous :'D now, my husband is a good ol southern boy so he's not too versed on pride colors- so when he saw my makeup he was like "uh- so what's this?" I told them it was pride week, and these are my ace colors. I felt a little self conscious about my awful make up application and said that maybe I should do something different. Without skipping a beat he just grinned and says "nah, actually if you want, I'll join you!" I truly believe I couldn't have gotten a better guy!
THANK YOU! I’ve been doing a psychoanalysis on all the main characters and Todd’s was a bit tricky but while I’ve been trying to label him he actively counters the very notion of what I was doing. He’s less a character for the show and more a character for audience and creators. Todd truly is more capable than the rest by having who he is transcend the show itself. Fascinating
Now you say it, why don't Diane have more moeny? D: Sold a huge book, probably sold another huge book about Secretariet. She must get some of those percentages when she wrote them? Also work on a big internet website thingy, where she has done some high profile articles. Still can't afford a proper appartment.
Don't forget she probably got a lot of money in the divorce. I think the key to her character is she just doesn't want to take care of herself. Not only did she get a bad apartment but she never took the stuff out of her boxes.
As a writer myself, I can tell you that money is hard to come by in our industry. When you get a book deal, you get an advance (money before the book is released). You do not receive royalties until your book sales amount surpasses that which you received as your advance payment. Her book may have sold 100,000 copies, but that doesn't always mean big bucks. After the publisher, distributor, and bookstore all take a cut of the sale price, the author likely only gets a dollar or two off of each book sale, and that goes to pay back the advance (sort of like paying back a loan). Sorry for writersplaining lol
Todd and bojack is perfect example of narcissistic friendship. Bojack leeched on Todd and put him down in order to make himself feel better. The minute Todd tried to better himself, Bojack sabotaged the rock opera to stop him moving out as he needed him for his supply to validate himself. Bojack projected his insecurities on Todd and he believed that’s what he was. The minute he stopped the friendship he saw himself in the different light and started to thrive as he surrounded himself with people that supported him. People like Bojack need strong empathetic people that are gifted to leech on them and drain them for their supply so they can feel good about them self.
Ngl I wish I could be like Todd. He exists with the intention to just be kind, to do a little better and smile a little more each day, while still being himself.
I think sometimes people want think Todd is a lot more deeper than what he actually is. He's not though, he's just a good guy who cares for people and always has a positive outlook and will tell you the real truth when you need it. Nothing more nothing less and he represents the not everyone in the world is miserable.
Quick reminder that Todd did funded his own theme park... Only because he sued Disney for writing wrong his own name. It's just a running gag in a show.
Very good video, i can identify more personally with it , as i am bisexual, i don't like to say out loud or saying i am one, especially when i have to say it myself when meeting new people and the subject comes on, i really find myself atracted to women and i'm sure about it, and it's difucult when lesbians or LGBT people see you as someone hetero that is "triying" to be LGBT and really isn't arracted to same sex people, so just most of the time i end up saying "i am atracted to women" and nothing more, because i find myself kinda ashamed of the own label and how it could define me in front of others, but in the other hand i find myself totally included in the definition of the label itself... But in the end i kind of understand LGBT people and especially lesbians, since i have seen people just hold in to the bisexual label just to fit in the LGBT espectrum, like it is something related with experimentation or a fase of some kind, when bisexuality as the others, is a sexuality, not something you taste.
Woah thanks for making this vid dude, I’m sure a lot of people relate to Todd’s problem with his mom or other aspects of his life, but I just love the fact that you made this vid on him yea Aaron Paul is the voice and yea it’s a hilarious character but really examining his life and the way he could never just...be; either with his mom or with his friends just himself like fuck man, what else is there to say? Never gonna forget that either
I don’t feel like Todd “failing upwards” being played as a gag detract from it being a key part of the story. To me, the best comedies are ones where the jokes further the plot or inform the characters. One is rarely divorced from the other.
I forget, but Todd is about the only character that Bojack Horseman had in his circle that actually ended up better off than where he started with Bojack, while also being on friendly terms with Bojack at the end of the series, right? Everyone else's life was either made worse or only started getting better when they cut Bojack off?
Mr. Peanutbutter is still friends with Bojack at the end of the series, he gladly picks Bojack up from prison. Also his life ends in the show almost exactly in the same spot it began. The only difference is he ends off single, which had nothing to do with Bojack directly. While Hollyhock did cut herself off from Bojack, her life is not worse because of him and we don't know if she got better after leaving him. Bojack helped her reunite with her mother. She might technically be in a worse place since she has panic attacks dealing with her past overdose, but that wasn't Bojack's doing. Diane and PC do seem to be doing much better without Bojack, but as Diane puts it in the final episode, they became who they were because of him. Though PC didn't really "cut Bojack off" she just drew lines in the sand.
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Todd was my fave character to begin with but i ended up disliking him in later seasons because he had so much opportunity but jumped to the next thing essentially he's runnign around in circles going no where in life , which is frustrating
Todd lacks self discipline, I think he is a example of how much potential can be in a person but just nobody cares, sees or helps him. Just luck gave him success.
He's a bit of a frustrating character to watch sometimes, because his arc has a lot of interest, especially for his unique labels and potential. Yet he is sometimes a little too oblivious, and a little too unfocused. And there's the connotation of him being a bit of a childish couch potato while being one of the only serious representatives of asexuality in adult media.
Just watched all of your episodes on bojack horseman and I must admit I’ve been watching the show so much for pure entertainment that I failed to see the deeper meaning behind everything. Your video analysis are so good and really provide a new perspective to all the characters. Thanks!
I'm like todd in i Don't let some label define who i am. Especially with being on the Austism spectrum. While my family constantly tell me that I'm in denial or i should get help because.i have it. It pisses me off because even though i have autism it hasn't stopped me Making $5 million in the last 2.5 years. Makes me feel good because after all I'm 19 and i have a disability ☺️
So this is like the case where people assume a princes is some damsel in distress due to the stereotype but in reality are simply the daughter of a high ranking authority figure as well as their own person.
Interesting video. Never thought about Todd that way. Someone once asked me who do you think is stupider, Todd or Mr. Peanut Butter? Obviously Mr. Peanut Butter. I wouldn't say Todd is an idiot, he's just irresponsible. But he does have those moments when he's not irresponsible (i.e. chicken episode) and that's where the confidence/competence shines.
2:59 Literally everyone else: "Your brain can easily read this because of pattern recognition." Me, a contemporary genius wink wink nudge nudge: "Your barn can easily read this because of pattern recognition..?"
Todd started to be better the moment he got away from BoJack. A good example of how to break up a toxic relationship
@Robin Todd was still Todd when he was with Bojack. Living with Bojack didn’t stop him from starting businesses with Mr. Peanutbutter, impressing Quentin Tarantulino or coming out as asexual. Todd never cut Bojack out of his life either. They were still friends when he did everything else. While Bojack wasn’t good for Todd’s growth I don’t agree with your assessment
@@kevinmccabe3984 Yes, but they weren't as close after Bojack sabotaged Todds opera. When Todd discovered it, he distanced himself and moved to Carolyn, he didn't cut off Bojack, but lessened his friend's presence in his life. He is definitely better off without Bojack around him 24/7. Bojack was very toxic, if you put the comedy away, he was neglecting and insulting Todd, sabotaged his almost successful projects or made fun of them so Todd could never be successful, got happy and moved away, because if he did, Bojack would be alone with his thoughts and couldn't vent his anger on someone who is dependent on him. Todd matured without Bojack, because Bojack was the enabler of his carelessness, laziness and infantility
Everyone gets better when they get away from BoJack lol
Aaron paul seems to like playing inocent likeable characters with rough edges that has an unhealthy attachment to a self destructive anti hero
They somewhat became friends again, or natural at least. In the final episode he basically tells Bojack "we won't ever be what we were, but I want you part of my life again"
I didn’t realize how badly I needed to hear that - “your labels are meant to describe you. not define you.”
That really made an impact on me. Great video.
Same here, couldn't have heard it at a better time in my life
Labels are meant for other people to understand YOU
@@globisdead not really lables such asexual is pointless who cares if your not into it
@@Steven9567Potential sexual partners, which is currently thought of as the "default" romantic relationship in America. Having a quick word to communicate your disinterest is definitely helpful for pairing expectations.
@@globisdeadYes and no, they can be a learning experience that leads to self-discovery and deeper understanding.
Todd is without a shadow of a doubt the best, kindest and purest person in the show. Nobody is talking about how in "Hooray! Todd episode", we can actually see all the things he's doing for others, all the little ways in which he's looking after them and helping them. And with no recognition, nobody even notices. He gets shot down more than anything else. Yet he still does it, because he's not doing it for gratitute or because he has some ulterior motives. He's just... kind, and cares about people. He does it automatically, without thought. And he asks for so little to be happy. Todd is a blessing to us all.
He is my favorite character
@@bulldoggirl3008 but otherwise he has such a great potential and would become a Diane or even with Diane and could make a important difference.
@@vsatonthebeat4101 I agree. I hope they use him more in the next season
Charity is never for the sake of others.
We all need a Todd in our lives.
I love the running joke that all the directors in the show love Todd
6:44 "Whoever you are, and whatever label you may hold. Know that it is only meant to describe you, not define you."
Couldn't have said it better. True words, my friend, true words
Word.
Anyone ever tell you that you sound like Diane's ex boyfriend who's working for buzzfeed?
@@dameonspawn6218 That's Wyatt Cenac, he just used his regular voice for Wayne
Envious Green is it intelligence or sensivity? Or maybe both, are they linked?
I am an aspie, but I feel like an insult when people think I have no feelings or lack of respect for other prople's feelings and that phrase caused a big impact for me, I am actually crying of happiness
Hooray! Todd video!
I was very tempted to make this the title of the video.
Kirby Over Yonder I literally read it in his voice inside my head complete with dramatic echo wtf
@@lordtachanka903 .... How can you not read it in his voice?
@@ShadyDoorags you should’ve!!!
Is this the time where you said you will be coming to the skating rink but instead you went to the strip club and skate there?
Bojack: no
Todd: then hurray!
I love how Todd just tipped his millions away and... He's not sad! He is happy with his life. ... Or at least neither money nor sex really matter to him. Something that complicates life for a lot of the other characters
There’s a theory that he did it deliberately, after seeing how wealth and fame fucked up Bojack and Sarah Lynne. I like that theory a lot.
@@neutrallynonsensical3477 that's a really good one!
Makes you really think about how you dig yourself a hole of misery
Honestly, he's a pretty cool person and a really interesting secondary character to explore in this show, for pretty much the reasons you mention.
In many ways he's the opposite of Bojack, money, fame, and sex do not interest him at all, yet he's driven to do all sorts of ambitious projects in the Hollywoo setting known for being all about those things. Those motivations are all pursuits of short term comfort Bojack frequently did awful things to indulge in, and maybe he's drawn to Todd due to trying to see what keeps him from making those same mistakes.
I cried when he felt welcomed in the Asexual meet up
All the asexual moments make me wanna bawl of happiness
Todd is Todd and thats good
Also big lol on 3:20
Todd is, undoubtedly, the most enjoyable, charming and surprisingly realistic character in the show, and literally every second of screen time he has improves whatever episode he’s in. In my opinion
I felt like the story of Todd coming out was really done in the best possible way because, as you’ve said, it’s not about sexuality, it’s about labels. Or rather, it’s about identity. Todd doesn’t want to give a name to this aspect of himself that he’s only just discovered and he especially doesn’t want that name to come from someone other than himself, but he comes to realize that it’s not a title, just a trait. More importantly, he doesn’t accept the title until HE feels comfortable with it, so he comes out to himself just as much as anyone else. This was the best way to do something this (and I rarely use this word) groundbreaking. Really one of the best episodes imo.
I just wish that they didn’t also completely shit on sex positivity in other episodes.
Gabriel Schleifer I do agree with you for the most part, but, assuming we’re thinking of the same episodes, idk if they necessarily shat on sex positivity. Maybe it’s that I myself am ace, but I felt it more showed how scary it can be to not fit into the societal norm. It was hyperbolic, as the show usually is, but society does often focus on sex, and given how little asexual representation there is in general, it really made myself and fellow ace people feel less alone.
well, one year latter, in 2020, here I am, proud to say that they DEFINITELY DID NOT shit on sex positivity
@@leelubell9080 I'm at the other end of the spectrum entirely re:Sexual energy, that being said, I'm not one of those who advocates the level of sexual expression that is found in our greater society. Part of why you see it so strongly however is we have an extreme urge to repress it. "But it's EVERYWHERE" I hear you say, exactly. Because we're not allowed to enjoy it, talk about it, or share it openly with each other. That's the real draw of the Sex in Marketing approach. It's the fact that it's a big open secret.
Porn is one of if not the biggest growth industry in the media sphere and yet 'no one watches it' if you ask them. We know it's a vice but we don't know how to honestly and earnestly express ourselves. We're all trapped in a miasma, where honest expressions of our desires are met with attacks.
It's obvious to you, because it's an energy you're not super interested in, it's like if you didn't like Onions and someone served you Mashed Potatoes with Onions in it, you'd be annoyed and your mind would notice all the onions more than the potatoes or any of the other ingredients. However it's also like this guy tossed in 9 onions worth of Onions because it truly is incredibly saturated.
The issue many have is they think Sex is purely procreative, they don't acknowledge that sexuality is an expression of your identity and that your identity is a fluid thing, it changes. That's partly why I find these kinds of character reviews so interesting, we like growth but then we get mad at them over petty things. Like, the whole point of Character Growth is acknowledging that part of yourself that wants to change. And if it's in _you_, why wouldn't it be in others? Our whole society has a deeply rooted Victimhood complex, where someone HAS to be the Bad Guy and someone else HAS to be the Good Guy and unfortunately since we think of our lives like a story, who we are and what we want is often boiled down to such simplistic terminology, which serves no one.
Back to my original point though, one of the major causes of Mental Illness is a lack of sexual intimacy and genuine love and affection. In some human cultures, it's considered more intimate to Hug someone than it is to have sex with them. In no way am I advocating such a change, just explaining how puritanical our society is whilst simultaneously being immensely hypocritical.
Most of our species loves porn but hates Sex Workers. We love Sexuality but shame each other for our interests(or at times, like yourself, lack therein). We have a biological imperative to partake in it and express it, but society makes it ok to shame each other over it. It's a serious mess.
I think the real reason you're not going to 'feel represented' is because it's very much a minority case as well, Sex is a Passionate, Fiery energy that underlies most of our motivations, whether we consciously acknowledge them or not. At the same time, as I said in the beginning, I'm on the other end of the spectrum, I'm an intensely sexual person. I see and feel it in the air around me. It's an eternal dance and like all dances, sometimes you have people who just want to watch or partake in other things, who just don't care for dancing. Nothing wrong with that, just happens to be that most people Love the Dance, they just don't get to express it properly.
That being said, I do agree, there's far too much of it in the Media, but as I said, simultaneously, it shames us for feeling the way we do. It's a strange dual edged blade.
2:40 never use that sound effect again
agreed. Sound was too tech high pitch. Too loud
hahahahha
Oh boy. Who’s going to tell him about 2:46?
Todd's also the only character on tv that I know of that is in-show defined to be asexual- House included two characters, but both were fakeouts and meant to be commentaries on how you know. Asexual people are fake.
So Bojack Horseman including not one but MULTIPLE examples of asexual people was really amazing to see, and I hope we see more like that.
There is an ace character on sirens and its an ok representation but is also used as a joke a lot which kinda sucks. The characters name is voodoo and some people don't like her because she is creepy and weird and people think that the writers are trying to say she is that way because she is ace but I see them as unrelated character traits :)
It's so rare that people don't even think they're real, even people who fit the label. Even Todd isn't a perfect example though. He's a good guy, and one of the most purely "kind" characters on the show, but he is repeatedly depicted as irresponsible and childish. He is still overall a "positive" depiction of an asexual person, but he definitely still leans into negative traits that are tied to the label, like being undeveloped as an adult, and really oblivious to relationship cues.
@@lilpetz500 Well, he's just one character. People need to start understanding that representation can't possibly represent every single individual of said demographic because well, we're all individuals! A character who happens to be asexual is just that, a character who happens to be asexual. All his or her other traits aren't really tied to their sexuality and shouldn't be, because sexual orientation isn't a personality trait. And even if Todd is seen as childish, he is emotionally very mature and the series sides with him most of the time. If you're so concerned about this childishness of his, feature which is portrayed in a positive light as something that makes him the kind-hearted and creative mind that he is, then what about Yolanda? She had her spotlight and was a pretty standard, accommodated adult who also mostly behaved very maturely, especially when the two broke up in good terms. Her most "childish" attitude was her unwillingness to discuss her sexuality with her family, which is actually not unfounded as we have all been in the position of not wanting to disappoint our family or people who we want to feel proud of us. And in the end, she did disclose it and everything went fine.
It's very similar to jugheads asexual story in the original Archie comics. There's a show of it now but the creators straight up said "we dont know how to write an asexual character so we will make him straight" 🙃 the show is garbage anyways so not a loss
Faking It has an asexual guy but he is not really important
I agree with everything said here! I felt the same way Todd did went I realized that I was asexual-I didn’t really like the label and it made me feel kind of scared to tell people because I didn’t know what they’d think of me. However, watching this show and with other people’s encouragement, I’m learning to accept myself for what I am. Thanks for the video :)
nothing special greetings fellow ace ✌️
John Romero hi there ^ ^
Welcome to our club! :D
QueenCloveroftheice aw thank you
Hello my ace brethren
- MK
I thought Todd was a slacker and the irony is that he does all kind of things real life slackers won't do (start businesses, being professional, etc). So yeah, the sweater, the slow speech pattern and the tuque are clearly there to frame him with a label: slacker.
He is a slacker don't knowing about his potential. He is like Diane just without self discipline and healthy boundaries for himself. He is just selfless.
@@vsatonthebeat4101 but is Diane really a slacker. Think about Diane is a very successful Ghost writer and journalist. she's sold millions of best selling books that are critically acclaimed. She's written multiple hard hitting articles that became the main topic of public discourse for weeks. Somtimes even starting entire political movements. She been a guest on multiple cable news channels. Her problem on why she doesn't feel or seem happy with her career is because her name isn't on any of her books and the news publications she's worked for have all been low brow bullshit like that knock off feminist BuzzFeed.
It's not success that Diane doesn't have it's recognition. Despite everything she's done Diane at the end of her career when she's no longer in the spotlight not a single person is going to remember who the heck Diane Nguyen is.
_She's a nobody_
@@qazwsxedc562 Well, by the end, she has written a successful YA novel (or even a series), so she is hardly a nobody.
@@qazwsxedc562 I don’t think she cares about recognition like BoJack. Her problem is that she doesn’t feel like she’s making a real, good, meaningful impact on the damaged world with her life. It’s the main thing she worries about. No matter how many columns she writes, it doesn’t seem to change anything. When she couldn’t handle being in the middle of a war zone, she gave up on making the world a better place because she felt like nothing was good enough. She began to recover fully by the end of the series by ending up okay for now making a small-scale change with her book series.
Having an asexual character in media OPENLY SAYING that they're asexual and GOING IN DEPTH on how that doesn't define them is so relieving to me, a fellow Asexual. Props to Bojack Horseman :)
Todd's representation of the community really is huge. Like a main character of a popular show not only has buildup/exploration of their identity before coming out in a really vulnerable but accurate scene, but then the series follows up with wonderful development on that exploring further than just the initial acceptance. And makes the asexual character one of the people in the show with an established personality and very likeable presence, that does not fade out behind this label, he very much keeps being the same person after coming out, just more comfortable.
tod's sucsses and happiness, i think, is a contrast to bojack and his endless desire to be liked by everybody, and all of the shitty things he's willing to do to try and make that happen. tod doesnt care about how others think of him, he doesn't second guess himself and if he has a problem, he actually handles it like an adult despite his more childish characteristics. his emotional maturity, which was shown through his relationship with yolanda and his ongoing relationship with emily, not to mention his undying faith in bojack, is such a stark contrast to bojack its almost too funny. but what makes tod so great is that he's made out to be this annoying, dumb character when really he is the smartest and most sucssesful out of many of them. again, proving that labels are only meant to describe us, not define us ;)
Todd is the best person on the show.
@@shannamartinez9494 Indeed. The show wants you to think it's Diane at the start, but Todd clearly deserves that title.
Correct me if I am wrong, but in one episode it is implied that Todd’s success is due to him being white and getting everything easily in contrast to his hispanic father
@@virensdd Stepfather. Yes, this was implied, but that doesn't mean that Cabracadabra was a bad idea. Yes, he accidentally gave it all away, but he was still in a good emotional place.
Todd being revealed as asexual honestly hit me so fucking hard. Him saying how good it felt to say that he was an asexual person out loud is how I felt when I said that I was a trans man out loud to someone else. I can't help but imagine a lot of the lgbt+ audience who had struggled with accepting themselves whether it be for being gay, bi, trans, nonbinary, or like Todd asexual felt the exact same way.
"You're labels are meant to describe you, not define you" is a perfect way to describe his arc of coming to terms with his asexuality.
Todd helped me realize that i am asexual, it's not something you can work on, you cant just 'get in the habit of it' i just have no desire for sex, i talked it over with my partner and we choose to still be in a sexually active relationship together but it has opened up a conversation.
I don't really like Todd, he's too carefree for my liking, but he is great representation
Iris Welten another fellow ace!
How are you in a sexually active relationship if you're asexual? Those two contradict each other, me thinks (Not tryina be rude, just curious)
so your partner is okay with having sex with someone who has no desire to actually do that? Sounds pretty tough for them!
What up my fellow asexual?
Boko Some asexuals are indifferent towards or even enjoy sex, they just don’t feel sexual attraction.
How is this channel not bigger???
I always saw Todd’s success as a large part of Bojack’s themes. All the other main characters think they need fame and success to be happy, but end up more alone and depressed when they get what they want. Todd, however, never truly seeks fame and fortune and just wants to find a purpose in life. As such, he is shown to be incredibly happy and optimistic and gains success because he doesn’t actively seek fame to find happiness. He’s just happy to be alive.
Also, this was a great video and I loved the analysis of Todd’s character arc, especially when you discussed Todd’s exploration of his sexuality!
I think that Todd is a perfect example of what I think of when I think entrepreneur. He is his own person, he has made himself. Independent and with his own volition, and excessively creative, always making new connections between ideas and then testing them.
“Labels are tools” is the best way I’ve ever heard them described. Thank you so much for that perspective!
Todd is just simply the best character in the series
You explain thing so nicely and wrap it up into an eloquent,understandable package.
Keep it up,you're doing great!
Labels are meant to describe not define, well said, sir!!
This is kinda off topic but I kinda want to see one of these on Rutabaga Rabbitowitz. I think there's enough there.
As a person who understands that his career is dog-eat-dog (or in this case cat-eat-rabbit), he does what he can to get ahead. The movie star speech states his way of thinking. Princess Carolyn, even though we are kinda put in a position to think of her as a protagonist DID screw him over. I especially loved the line "we're gonna come out on top, because we're the good guys". Because he firmly believes this to be true. From his perspective he gave PC the opportunity to advance in her career and she did take everything from him. And he was hurt, sure. But he probably gave himself the movie star speech and bounced back from this betrayal. Later In the show, you can see he holds no personal grudge with PC and works just as well with her as he did before she took his company. It's not about her. He's the main character in his story. He understands that everyone is the main character in their own story, and when PC took the company from him, he understood that it was just business. It was the part of the story where he gets his heart broken and people treated him like shit, but it had to happen that way, otherwise in the end when he gets everything he's ever wanted, it won't feel as rewarding.
Is he a good person though? Of course not, but that's kinda the theme of this show.
God what an excellent analysis! This is outstanding and really could become a video I would watch.
Todd is actually a good person! Such a great potential but he lacks self discipline.
Ruttabega cheated on his wife! Don't forget that.
That as well as how Venessa Gecko never actually hated PC, I think PC's personal feelings about both her "competitors" is something to be explored for sure
“Your labels are meant to describe you not define you”. 🙌🏿
I don't exactly hate labels. But when I think the ones that fit me cause more harm than good because there's so many, and tend to require more to fully explain.
I could be referred to as simply trans. Or because that implies binary, non binary. More specifically I could say genderfluid. But people have a specific between the binary genders view of that. So I'd need to go further with being between demigirl, androgyne, agender, and maverique.
At which point everyone not close enough to bring the exact same as me writes me off as a "snowflake" or "made up" or "needing a label for everything".
So then I'm back to just leaving it as trans or non binary and not really correcting when people assume wrongly.
Then you add in orientation, which gets complicated when you aren't guilt binary. I mean I'm a lesbian. Except I'm not always even feminine aligned and many lesbians do not like trans or non binary period using the term. And I'm not exclusively attracted to women, I'm just not attracted to masculinity.
So I'm bi. But that tends to imply binary genders. If you're non binary or aren't a bigot you aren't bisexual, you're pan. (Obviously not my view but a confrontation I have far too often). And why would you even call yourself bi if you aren't attracted to women?
Fine let's get some tumblr terms. That'll work out great.
(The most accurate one being neptunic which always needs to be defined when it's used).
Oh and also I can't really tell from aesthetic appreciation alone if I'll take eve the slightest interest in courting someone and I don't feel -sexually aroused- by people that I'm not bonded with. Which means asexual fits. Or more specifically grey aroace. And more specific than that, sapiosexual. As I do not form attraction to anyone without bonding over special interests and sharing opinions, views, debating, etc back and forth. As peers from art least a similar stand point. (This is in contrast to demisexual which is similar but based more on friendship and developing platonic attachments. As emotional attachments don't really predict whether I'll develop attraction or not).
And let me tell you how fun it is to call yourself sapiosexual with -that- baggage. Add in Neptunic. Add in 4-6 non binary genders (depends on if you count gender fluid and genderqueer).
And yeah I need an essay every single time I even touch on my gender and orientation.
And just for fun I'm a relationship anarchist which is a subset of solo poly which is a subset of polyamory which is itself a subset of non monogamy. All of which tend to itself be defined as well due to misconceptions and vitriol.
It's complicated. And sometimes I just want to stick with "queer" and avoid any specific, strictly defined, strictly divided, labels. Because using labels us exhausting and I don't anyways want to do that.
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@@jacobsoto7228 They were venting. Let them be.
Fox, I feel the exact same way as you as an arospec asexual mspec person. I wish I had more people to discuss this with because wow... it sucks so bad having to pull out a PowerPoint presentation every time I want to come out to a friend or someone else. It's nice knowing I'm not alone in how I feel. Btw, your discussion on the subsets of polyamory made me realise that I'm also a relationship anarchist- I already knew I never valued 'crushes' over my friends but I finally have a word to encompass how I feel about the relationship 'hierarchy'. Thank you so much for the indirect help (':
never stop making videos about bojack bro 👌
Hey man how sorry i am to hear such low activity on your channel. Hope you'll get back on the track real soon.
Whoever you are and whatever label/s you hold; know that it is only meant to describe you. Not define you. - Shady Doorags 2018
"I'm not comfortable with dating someone who is asexual." Yikes, it hurts how much of that can be true, it's really sad. A lot of people look at sex as a big part of a relationship, when in reality a relationship can theoretically survive without it. Relationships are about connections, understanding, compromise, friendship and trust. Sex is just a plus in a relationship, it's not necessary for a healthy and loving relationship. I'm sorry, my younger twin sisters are ace, so it felt right bringing it up.
I will never really understand people who state that sex in a relationship is essential. I have a friend who is married, has a teenage son and would actually think about divorce if sex won't be a part of her marriage anymore. In my logic it shouldn't really matter because you marry for love and not for sex. Heck, she even complained to me that her son is 15 years old and still doesn't show interest in a relationship and eventually might come out as asexual. She doesn't care if he comes out as gay, bi or trans but asexuality would be her worst nightmare.
Honestly, I really pity people who can't think outside the box and are so convinced that sex and relationships are as important as breathing. It just shows how society conditions people into thinking that finding a partner is the only thing that makes us whole
@@NoxAtlas Yikes, don't take this the wrong why, but I'm pretty sure your friend is just a huge b**ch! That's horrible, even if you are aphobic, you should learn to accept and learn more more about your child. Even if it is just an exception. And why the hell would she consider a divorce?! Even if the SO is super supportive and kind?!
Because the definition of love is different for different people.. In yours sex is absent, but in mine it is not. Unlike the lady in the other comment, I wont straight up divorce if sex isn't there..but I would try to find a compromise..and if it still does not work..then I will happily divorce for sex. Like..why not,? Why cant I be happy. Sex+connection+mental stimulation is important for me..if anyone is missing I am out. For you its just the above situation just minus sex. Good for you. That's why we are two different people with completely different charecterestics and name and culture and brains.
@@NoxAtlas ok I disagree with the initial comment. Yes it's not essential but you can't blame others for wanting sex. You can judge them though. jk (or am I) But for a parent TO NOT SUPPORT their child? I really fucking hope she isn't bad in all other categories. for the kid's sake
Hey, this is wrong. Sex is a very basic human urge for those who do experience sexual desire
I love how you end your videos with a quote that completely proves your point.
Todd is indeed my favorite character along with Sarah Lynn and Diane.
I'm so happy you did a video on Todd, he's my favorite character :3
When those beeping sounds came in I thought my phone was glitching lol
Thank you! My dad doesn't believe in labels but I believe your method of labels but I couldn't clearly discribe it. When I thought like my dad I thought I was gay. It didn't make me happy. But when I gave up letting labels define me and just be small description I realized I was asexual and trans. The topic of labels defining you or you defining them is very debatable due to the fact it's in our nature to see them first. We all think differently so this debate has no soild ground on either side. You just kinda have to live it your way.
ok but that ended with some genuinely helpful life advice
I'm sorry.
I've watched this show 4 times
I've watched it so many times I feel embarrassed to say it
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No exaggeration...
When I first watched this show, I was so fascinated that I found myself watching it over and over again every time I sat down with my tablet. I lost count after 10 straight runs. Although, that was just the first 3 seasons.
amateur /lh
Great video and analysis as always! Please never use the sound effect you used at the 2:48 mark again, it completely broke the calm and quiet tone of the video.
Adam Goodyer i could not hear what was being said when that noise was played, I’d get way too distracted every time
Yea it was unexpected I almost quit watching the vid
It is actually because of Todd that I realized that I was Asexual. I had friends who were Asexual, and thought that I was purely a straight girl, in love with a man. I was married for two years and not realizing I was ace. I always felt ashamed and weird that I wasn't sexually attracted to my husband, and I, more often than not, didn't want sex. When my husband would come on to me, I'd deflect awkwardly or change the subject. Watching Bojack Horseman, I saw the same behaviors in Todd. When they labeled Todd as Asexual, and when he accepted the lable, it was a total "ah-ha" moment in my head. I was Asexual, this is what an Asexual person could look like!
I love my husband and we are still married, he just has a better understanding about me. I wouldn't have married him if I didn't love him, after all, and he finds me very attractive. We may not get up to doing it much, but from time to time, it happens. He totally accepts me for who I am, and never pushes me into doing anything I don't want to do. As compensation, I don't judge him for viewing porn or having hentai games on his laptop, and he sometimes tells me about these games, and his friends are quite confused as to how or why I'm okay with this. Well, he's not the Asexual one, and he's not having an affair, so I view it as being totally fair.
I work for Starbucks, a job I absolutely love. As many people are aware, Starbucks is very pro-pride. We had a pride week in June, and I did some funky things with my makeup in my colors. It was horrendous :'D now, my husband is a good ol southern boy so he's not too versed on pride colors- so when he saw my makeup he was like "uh- so what's this?" I told them it was pride week, and these are my ace colors. I felt a little self conscious about my awful make up application and said that maybe I should do something different. Without skipping a beat he just grinned and says "nah, actually if you want, I'll join you!"
I truly believe I couldn't have gotten a better guy!
THANK YOU! I’ve been doing a psychoanalysis on all the main characters and Todd’s was a bit tricky but while I’ve been trying to label him he actively counters the very notion of what I was doing.
He’s less a character for the show and more a character for audience and creators. Todd truly is more capable than the rest by having who he is transcend the show itself.
Fascinating
Now you say it, why don't Diane have more moeny? D: Sold a huge book, probably sold another huge book about Secretariet. She must get some of those percentages when she wrote them? Also work on a big internet website thingy, where she has done some high profile articles. Still can't afford a proper appartment.
She lives in la though
Yeah was also my thought... But still. :D
Don't forget she probably got a lot of money in the divorce. I think the key to her character is she just doesn't want to take care of herself. Not only did she get a bad apartment but she never took the stuff out of her boxes.
She clearly has money she dropped everything and went to Vietnam at a whim. That's not something anyone struggling financially can do
As a writer myself, I can tell you that money is hard to come by in our industry. When you get a book deal, you get an advance (money before the book is released). You do not receive royalties until your book sales amount surpasses that which you received as your advance payment. Her book may have sold 100,000 copies, but that doesn't always mean big bucks. After the publisher, distributor, and bookstore all take a cut of the sale price, the author likely only gets a dollar or two off of each book sale, and that goes to pay back the advance (sort of like paying back a loan).
Sorry for writersplaining lol
Also btw. You make the best videos regarding Bojack Horseman. Your videos are amazing. Keep it up!
I'm a gardener, that's my living that's my passion and it's my favorite subject
So excited you finally made a video about Todd!! thank you
Todd and bojack is perfect example of narcissistic friendship. Bojack leeched on Todd and put him down in order to make himself feel better. The minute Todd tried to better himself, Bojack sabotaged the rock opera to stop him moving out as he needed him for his supply to validate himself. Bojack projected his insecurities on Todd and he believed that’s what he was. The minute he stopped the friendship he saw himself in the different light and started to thrive as he surrounded himself with people that supported him. People like Bojack need strong empathetic people that are gifted to leech on them and drain them for their supply so they can feel good about them self.
Ngl I wish I could be like Todd. He exists with the intention to just be kind, to do a little better and smile a little more each day, while still being himself.
I think sometimes people want think Todd is a lot more deeper than what he actually is. He's not though, he's just a good guy who cares for people and always has a positive outlook and will tell you the real truth when you need it. Nothing more nothing less and he represents the not everyone in the world is miserable.
thank you for your words at the end 💕
Quick reminder that Todd did funded his own theme park... Only because he sued Disney for writing wrong his own name.
It's just a running gag in a show.
Disney sued Todd, but he won due to the typo. Defendants don't get paid unless they are countersuing.
I didn't expect a Bojack video essay to be so validating and meaningful but here I am.
i love these videos ive been binging them all day !
Very good video, i can identify more personally with it , as i am bisexual, i don't like to say out loud or saying i am one, especially when i have to say it myself when meeting new people and the subject comes on, i really find myself atracted to women and i'm sure about it, and it's difucult when lesbians or LGBT people see you as someone hetero that is "triying" to be LGBT and really isn't arracted to same sex people, so just most of the time i end up saying "i am atracted to women" and nothing more, because i find myself kinda ashamed of the own label and how it could define me in front of others, but in the other hand i find myself totally included in the definition of the label itself... But in the end i kind of understand LGBT people and especially lesbians, since i have seen people just hold in to the bisexual label just to fit in the LGBT espectrum, like it is something related with experimentation or a fase of some kind, when bisexuality as the others, is a sexuality, not something you taste.
The rock opera didint "not pan out", Bojack sabotaged it because he wants to be needed
Woah thanks for making this vid dude, I’m sure a lot of people relate to Todd’s problem with his mom or other aspects of his life, but I just love the fact that you made this vid on him yea Aaron Paul is the voice and yea it’s a hilarious character but really examining his life and the way he could never just...be; either with his mom or with his friends just himself like fuck man, what else is there to say? Never gonna forget that either
Fantastic analysis. I think this is my favourite video of yours so far
I love your videos about Bojack
I don’t feel like Todd “failing upwards” being played as a gag detract from it being a key part of the story. To me, the best comedies are ones where the jokes further the plot or inform the characters. One is rarely divorced from the other.
Every video you do is a masterpiece
Great videos! Love your commentary.
Dude, your videos are gold.
3:21 who's that handsome devil 💘
I forget, but Todd is about the only character that Bojack Horseman had in his circle that actually ended up better off than where he started with Bojack, while also being on friendly terms with Bojack at the end of the series, right? Everyone else's life was either made worse or only started getting better when they cut Bojack off?
Mr. Peanutbutter is still friends with Bojack at the end of the series, he gladly picks Bojack up from prison. Also his life ends in the show almost exactly in the same spot it began. The only difference is he ends off single, which had nothing to do with Bojack directly.
While Hollyhock did cut herself off from Bojack, her life is not worse because of him and we don't know if she got better after leaving him. Bojack helped her reunite with her mother. She might technically be in a worse place since she has panic attacks dealing with her past overdose, but that wasn't Bojack's doing.
Diane and PC do seem to be doing much better without Bojack, but as Diane puts it in the final episode, they became who they were because of him. Though PC didn't really "cut Bojack off" she just drew lines in the sand.
These are amazing, I've watched a ton of them over the past week. How did I not know about your channel?!
Great to have you back, Shady :)
Love your videos man!!!! I always looking forward to a new upload from you
Your videos are really insightful. I always look forward to hearing your analysis of bh characters
Give This Guy more Views and Likes!! He deserves more Subscribers! These Reviews are so Enjoyable and easy to understand and makes the series characters better!!
Thanks for the video, Todd is my favourite character on the show!
hey man! i love your bojack commentary videos. keep it up
Haha just realized I only just got this on my algorithm even though it was made two years ago 😂 that’s what I get for binging Johnny 2 cellos and your guys’ livestream 😂
I am an artist. That is what I am. Not entirely who I am. And that is ok. Thank you Shady.
I think this resonates well with Diane speech about bad guys and good guys at the end of season 5.
Another great video! Hurray for Todd!
Todd was my fave character to begin with but i ended up disliking him in later seasons because he had so much opportunity but jumped to the next thing
essentially he's runnign around in circles going no where in life , which is frustrating
Todd lacks self discipline, I think he is a example of how much potential can be in a person but just nobody cares, sees or helps him. Just luck gave him success.
He's a bit of a frustrating character to watch sometimes, because his arc has a lot of interest, especially for his unique labels and potential. Yet he is sometimes a little too oblivious, and a little too unfocused. And there's the connotation of him being a bit of a childish couch potato while being one of the only serious representatives of asexuality in adult media.
when i say todd is one of my favorite fictional characters i’m not exaggerating
Hadn't checked your channel in a while. So glad you're back it man. Really tho.
Just watched all of your episodes on bojack horseman and I must admit I’ve been watching the show so much for pure entertainment that I failed to see the deeper meaning behind everything. Your video analysis are so good and really provide a new perspective to all the characters. Thanks!
Todd is the true solution of BoJack Hosreman dilemma
Yay! You're back!
Love your content!
I'm like todd in i Don't let some label define who i am. Especially with being on the Austism spectrum. While my family constantly tell me that I'm in denial or i should get help because.i have it. It pisses me off because even though i have autism it hasn't stopped me Making $5 million in the last 2.5 years. Makes me feel good because after all I'm 19 and i have a disability ☺️
Hooray! A Todd episode!
A lovely sentiment. Subscribed buddy
So this is like the case where people assume a princes is some damsel in distress due to the stereotype but in reality are simply the daughter of a high ranking authority figure as well as their own person.
Great video!
I love your vids dude!
Interesting video. Never thought about Todd that way. Someone once asked me who do you think is stupider, Todd or Mr. Peanut Butter? Obviously Mr. Peanut Butter. I wouldn't say Todd is an idiot, he's just irresponsible. But he does have those moments when he's not irresponsible (i.e. chicken episode) and that's where the confidence/competence shines.
He just need to get his shit together
Ps love the channel please keep up the good work
Great content!
Another great video
dang dude I was wondering what happened to your channel. I saw the video explaining what happened. good to see you back man.
Your stuff is never not beautiful :3 I hope you blow right up (in the best way, don't like, literally explode)
2:59
Literally everyone else: "Your brain can easily read this because of pattern recognition."
Me, a contemporary genius wink wink nudge nudge: "Your barn can easily read this because of pattern recognition..?"
My Geordie ass initially read the jumbled up letters as "your bairn can easily read this..." instead of "your brain..."😅🤦♀️ great video Shady!
Thanks for the video
He has adhd