Thats why scrubs and casuals opinion are nonsense and unreliant. They don't have much credibility and not fit as a criteria for nerf. Now pro in the other hand practice a character to there atmost limit. learn match up and how to deal with a move in the best way. Add all that in a stressful environment just shows how strong a certain move on how they are used and how they get countered. That should be there bases not from scrubs who play casually at the comforts of there homes. They should only take scrubs opinion as a "must watch" move to be as a candidate to be nerf rather than "that need to be nerf". Sad state devil jin is in because of it lmao
SS4 has no real value because it's too slow. I think that Lili F3 needs plus frames, something like Bryant B1. Actually F3 is very slow and risky so there is no reason to use it.
With how frequently I am utilizing sidesteps as Lili player, ss4 was already something I did. This just makes it more rewarding, she is still nerfed overall but ss4 is pretty good utility considering how much Lili can generate from ss compared to just f4
@@joeyshouse6405 My point is: if you use SS and the enemy use a no traking move, you could launch him anyway using a hopkick or d,3+4, so Lili already had plenty of luncher options. The only way SS4 is 'usable' is as a counter move, but it is significantly slower than the majority of the enemy traking moves, so if the enemy is smart he will catch you in the middle of the side step (you can't cancel the move) and you will end up in backside position eating his full combo. The risk is extremely high. If you ony use SS is more safe, you got a small window to block the enemy and if he eats the bait you launch him. I think that is the safest and correct strategy.
The only balance change for devil jin was reduced distance to opponent on block using ff2. And people say dj is the biggest loser of this patch??? The downplay is on the level hwo mains at this point.
I don't know if this is jokes, but it's definitely more about the fact that after his heat smash got nerfed, it was pretty clear that he was a worse Mishima than Kazuya, Reina, or normal Jin. Even after that, they decided to nerf him again instead of buffing him or even just leaving him the same. He's still a character that can work, but like Criterion said, he's very demanding to play compared to other characters that get a better reward with a less complex gameplay and execution.
You only say this because you ain’t never played devil Jin, even if you do try taking him to tekken emperor. You’ll know exactly what everyone is talking about
No lmfao. His damage output (strongest character trait) got heavily nerfed due to heat burst changes. Furthermore acting as a major nerf to his ONLY mid is small is delusional
People should call out for nerfs for characters not buff at this stage of this game so many broken characters there.People doesnt understand this and talking selfishly for buffs.
King 1.05 : lose any kind of tracking for command throws, lose his best okizeme, can get punished for landing a qcb1+2 throw Get a wavedash that doesn't even highcrush anymore, and an unusable +frame Peoples be like : DEFINITLY BUFFED !!!! How the fuck can everyone be so wrong about king
shaheen got nerfs and people placing him in top 5 is laughable. AK single tournament win made everyone salty. Shaheens while standing 3 loops are borderline impossible, stand a higher chance of dropping it or accidentally missing the cancel and getting stealth step into 3 which is his kick flip move which means you put yourself up against the wall. Shaheen lacks high combo damage unless you master those loops. You are in the 65 to 70 range at best without heat or a wall. People can mash their face on buttons and get that damage. He’s solid for sure but to put him in top five before or after the nerfs is just wild. That’s just AK piloting him at a high level
When I use any character after a rank session with devil jin tekken 8 feel so easy
*In conclusion*
*Devil Jin SUCKS now* 😈🥺
Super Akouma is right about Eddy but Devil Jin is even worse than Eddy. Also he still down play his main like bruh
Justice for Devil Jin 😭
Shoutout to Super Akouma for realizing how much of a bad spot Eddy is right now.
Fr eddy is so unsafe the ff3 being -14 is so dumb
Hope he stays there forever
Free Devil Jin
"devil jin is still very strong" LMAO
BIG BIG BIG LMAO
Thats why scrubs and casuals opinion are nonsense and unreliant. They don't have much credibility and not fit as a criteria for nerf. Now pro in the other hand practice a character to there atmost limit. learn match up and how to deal with a move in the best way. Add all that in a stressful environment just shows how strong a certain move on how they are used and how they get countered. That should be there bases not from scrubs who play casually at the comforts of there homes. They should only take scrubs opinion as a "must watch" move to be as a candidate to be nerf rather than "that need to be nerf". Sad state devil jin is in because of it lmao
Reina while crouching moves can be jabbed 😭
Lili SS4 does the same thing as her f4, with a little less range. Buff yes, but a little over hyped.
SS4 has no real value because it's too slow. I think that Lili F3 needs plus frames, something like Bryant B1. Actually F3 is very slow and risky so there is no reason to use it.
With how frequently I am utilizing sidesteps as Lili player, ss4 was already something I did. This just makes it more rewarding, she is still nerfed overall but ss4 is pretty good utility considering how much Lili can generate from ss compared to just f4
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@@joeyshouse6405 My point is: if you use SS and the enemy use a no traking move, you could launch him anyway using a hopkick or d,3+4, so Lili already had plenty of luncher options. The only way SS4 is 'usable' is as a counter move, but it is significantly slower than the majority of the enemy traking moves, so if the enemy is smart he will catch you in the middle of the side step (you can't cancel the move) and you will end up in backside position eating his full combo. The risk is extremely high. If you ony use SS is more safe, you got a small window to block the enemy and if he eats the bait you launch him. I think that is the safest and correct strategy.
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The only balance change for devil jin was reduced distance to opponent on block using ff2. And people say dj is the biggest loser of this patch??? The downplay is on the level hwo mains at this point.
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I don't know if this is jokes, but it's definitely more about the fact that after his heat smash got nerfed, it was pretty clear that he was a worse Mishima than Kazuya, Reina, or normal Jin. Even after that, they decided to nerf him again instead of buffing him or even just leaving him the same. He's still a character that can work, but like Criterion said, he's very demanding to play compared to other characters that get a better reward with a less complex gameplay and execution.
Imma touch you
You only say this because you ain’t never played devil Jin, even if you do try taking him to tekken emperor. You’ll know exactly what everyone is talking about
No lmfao. His damage output (strongest character trait) got heavily nerfed due to heat burst changes. Furthermore acting as a major nerf to his ONLY mid is small is delusional
Qudans can’t catch a break lmao
People should call out for nerfs for characters not buff at this stage of this game so many broken characters there.People doesnt understand this and talking selfishly for buffs.
King 1.05 : lose any kind of tracking for command throws, lose his best okizeme, can get punished for landing a qcb1+2 throw
Get a wavedash that doesn't even highcrush anymore, and an unusable +frame
Peoples be like : DEFINITLY BUFFED !!!!
How the fuck can everyone be so wrong about king
shaheen got nerfs and people placing him in top 5 is laughable. AK single tournament win made everyone salty. Shaheens while standing 3 loops are borderline impossible, stand a higher chance of dropping it or accidentally missing the cancel and getting stealth step into 3 which is his kick flip move which means you put yourself up against the wall. Shaheen lacks high combo damage unless you master those loops. You are in the 65 to 70 range at best without heat or a wall. People can mash their face on buttons and get that damage.
He’s solid for sure but to put him in top five before or after the nerfs is just wild. That’s just AK piloting him at a high level
@@RichiePajooh-r8i i would still place him inside *TOP 10*
Top 5