Xyris vs Lotho vs Yuriko vs Niv-Mizzet | CEDH Gameplay

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Комментарии • 108

  • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
    @PlayingWithPowerMTG  7 месяцев назад +3

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  • @adams333
    @adams333 7 месяцев назад +29

    Casting Peer into the Abyss to give an opponent 26 ping creatures with goblin bombardment felt like king making.

  • @vanilleR028
    @vanilleR028 7 месяцев назад +34

    When Tia casted the march, Niv triggers to draw and deal 1 damage to the phantasmal image, everyone forgot the trigger i think, none the less, congrats to Tia

    • @deadbyenvy9588
      @deadbyenvy9588 3 месяца назад

      niv was phased out

    • @thedoctor1471
      @thedoctor1471 2 месяца назад

      Niv triggers on cast, so it wasn't phased out yet.

    • @thedoctor1471
      @thedoctor1471 2 месяца назад

      PhImage should have entered as a copy of gilded drake, yes

  • @Corveign
    @Corveign 7 месяцев назад +37

    The best part of counterbalance is the "may reveal" so you can choose what to counter and keep the card hidden

    • @DeathSpeach
      @DeathSpeach 7 месяцев назад +7

      You don't get to look first unless another card lets you, like top activation or a future sight effect.

    • @graog123
      @graog123 3 месяца назад

      No the best part of counterbalance is absolutely fucking the rest of the table for several turns for only 2 mana.

  • @EmeraldSmash
    @EmeraldSmash 7 месяцев назад +8

    This was super fun to play! It wasn't a perfect game for us but we all had fun. Took so long too. 😂😂 thwnks for letting me play with yall!

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy 7 месяцев назад +41

    Wow. Great play with the Peer into the Abyss lol. Yeah let's give them 26 snakes. Oops! GG ❤❤❤

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 7 месяцев назад +1

      Peer into Chains losing to 26 snakes..... I guess I will just lose now

  • @connarobertson3416
    @connarobertson3416 7 месяцев назад +127

    So long story short, niv spectated and made it a drag, and xyris can win if your opponent makes you win

    • @jakemaxwell3810
      @jakemaxwell3810 7 месяцев назад +14

      Niv got pretty unlucky with drawing no lands or mana for so long. Counterbalance pulled huge there to keep them in the game and the chains helped as well. It's fine if you don't like low resource games, but I enjoyed it and it showed a nice diversity of meta that we don't often see.

    • @crppledizzle9374
      @crppledizzle9374 7 месяцев назад +2

      yeah this shit was incredibly underwhelming

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 7 месяцев назад +7

      Niv did its job but got unlucky. I have no idea why Zeb went for Peer with Chains there.

    • @marioquezada4036
      @marioquezada4036 7 месяцев назад

      Truly one of the worst cedh games, got so bored I fell asleep

  • @koanos2448
    @koanos2448 7 месяцев назад +9

    14:00 How did it take 15 turns for Johnny to finally Ninjutsu in Yuriko? Was the early game Null Rod that good? I knew it was a mull to 5 but still...

  • @gazza4589
    @gazza4589 7 месяцев назад +25

    Counter balance doing WORK this game. That was nice to see!

  • @cjm8836
    @cjm8836 7 месяцев назад +15

    Feels like he threw the game with that peer? Would love to know the thought process behind it given what was on board?

    • @TRS-Aphelion
      @TRS-Aphelion 7 месяцев назад +2

      It felt like Zeb may have forgotten about Chains. There was a lot on board to remember and they were constantly trying to play around Counterbalance

    • @slymcfly123
      @slymcfly123 7 месяцев назад +2

      He could have lost his cool with how many times he was countered. 😂

    • @TripsAhoy
      @TripsAhoy 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah bad call. Oops.

    • @raymondsimpson8875
      @raymondsimpson8875 7 месяцев назад +2

      With his lifetotal, he was probably hail marying, knowing he wouldn't untap anyways

  • @chasesimmons3053
    @chasesimmons3053 7 месяцев назад +13

    This Lotho deck is always so threatening

  • @kaasham8871
    @kaasham8871 7 месяцев назад +5

    03:20 the bow master trigger should fissel? (i don't know how to typ it..)

  • @jasonappel1253
    @jasonappel1253 7 месяцев назад +12

    14:28 peer plus chains doesn’t allow 26 cards to be drawn. If a card has a player draw more than one card at a time they are considered separate draws. Therefore, zeb should discard then draw one at a time 26 times.

  • @jasoncook2715
    @jasoncook2715 7 месяцев назад +3

    At no point did I know how this game was going to end. Counterbalance definitely throws a wrench in the game, especially those who overlook it

  • @drboolin
    @drboolin 7 месяцев назад +6

    Zeb got so boned this game, I always find myself rooting for him as a fellow Lotho enjoyer

    • @leotamer5
      @leotamer5 2 месяца назад

      Half of his opponents didn't have lands for half of the game, he drew like 20 cards from necropotence and it was his card that ended up ending the game in a very predictable manner.

  • @taylorchamplin379
    @taylorchamplin379 7 месяцев назад +4

    march should have triggered niv mizzet ping phantasmal image triggering sacrifice. changes the game big time

  • @notimeleft1
    @notimeleft1 7 месяцев назад +6

    Tia made my dream come true with a good competitive Xyris build.

  • @SubSonicEctomorph
    @SubSonicEctomorph 7 месяцев назад +2

    Surprised how few snakes actually came out 😅

  • @chrisyourfriend59
    @chrisyourfriend59 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have a crazy strong Xyris list, but I don't know that I'd call her CEDH, I do love my Temur lists and I do love my Xyris list, plentiful high power.

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 7 месяцев назад +6

    Only slight issue ive seen so far is Johnny shouldn't have amassed. Since the birds of paradise was gone before the bowmasters ability resolved, the whole ability fizzles

    • @TheDaytun13
      @TheDaytun13 7 месяцев назад

      Nah. It still amasses. It doesn't say "if creature died" or "if damage is dealt this way".

    • @NotAWhaleAtAll
      @NotAWhaleAtAll 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@TheDaytun13 the abilities without legal targets don't resolve and are simply removed from the stack

    • @TheDaytun13
      @TheDaytun13 7 месяцев назад

      Ah, the separation of the abilities makes that confusing. 😅

    • @johnweinhandl8890
      @johnweinhandl8890 7 месяцев назад

      I came here to ask this EXACT question. Thank you

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  7 месяцев назад +1

      Correct. It doesn't amass. It's even in the rulings on Bowmasters. They just made a mistake.

  • @DeathSpeach
    @DeathSpeach 7 месяцев назад +1

    Johnny shouldnt have gotten the amass orc token when Tia sacrificed the Birds on Turn 4 (i think). Unless im wrong (which i might be) because i though the bow master had to deal damage first, then amass orcs 1...

  • @Flyboy245
    @Flyboy245 7 месяцев назад +1

    Man that necropotence just refused to stay down. Came back 3 times I think? And counterbalance did a ton of work

  • @seroni17
    @seroni17 2 месяца назад

    @8:56 why didn't tia just use the treasures to keep activating glinthorn buckaneer and win the game?
    Was chains of mephistopholese stopping the combo?

  • @DerpyLaron
    @DerpyLaron 7 месяцев назад +1

    what a drag. I am not sure what Zeb was hoping for of that Peer. I guess it was a hail Mary to find something to win. However it seems like he got knocked of his game plan and never managed to regain his footing. weird game

  • @thief_Entertainment
    @thief_Entertainment 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was kind of a goofy game. They get like that once in a while. Going for a win and not getting there is rough, especially when you give the win to someone else. The Niv pilot took 4 turns off as well, and neutralizing a control player make it a three player game. GG. I like seeing the more janky side of Cedh.

  • @NotAWhaleAtAll
    @NotAWhaleAtAll 7 месяцев назад +2

    Shouldn't Emma have drawn through Niv-Mizzet in response to the March?

  • @snotice12
    @snotice12 7 месяцев назад +1

    Emma effectively prevented Zeb from going off multiple times. In addition, Johnny's deck wasn't kind to him.
    Tia played the long game and didn't panick, which also why she won this game.

    • @EmeraldSmash
      @EmeraldSmash 7 месяцев назад +1

      I was tryna tell him about the peer 😂😂😭😭😭😭 colors were not kind to me but it was a fun game.

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 7 месяцев назад +1

      March should have triggered Niv Mizzit to ping the Image killing it. That Peer also felt like kingmaking with a Chains out. This game was very sloppy which happens but the title makes it feel pushed IMO

  • @betterpergl9664
    @betterpergl9664 7 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting Temporal Trespass alter, looks almost like Enter the Infinite

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  7 месяцев назад +1

      It was what he fetched first, until he realized that chains made it so he would have to discard his entire library. If only Zeb realized the same thing...

    • @Starkipraggy
      @Starkipraggy 7 месяцев назад

      ironic, he could save himself, but not others..@@PlayingWithPowerMTG

  • @brandonliming9612
    @brandonliming9612 7 месяцев назад +1

    This was a great game to watch. Much fun.

  • @ysendy7027
    @ysendy7027 7 месяцев назад

    Why not sac xyris to bombardment in response to gilded drake trigger?

  • @joshlin8002
    @joshlin8002 7 месяцев назад +8

    That Peer was really dumb.

  • @marcelolima70
    @marcelolima70 7 месяцев назад +1

    If i was Jhonny, i definily would burn this Homeward Path and put a Takenuma, Abandoned Mire in the place just to be a land that generate colored mana and enters untapped. XD

    • @EmeraldSmash
      @EmeraldSmash 7 месяцев назад +1

      I've been looking into it, homeward path feels super bad in yuriko cause you need the colors. I did add minamo recently. Got super bad luck with Mt lands this game though 😂

  • @ggangulo
    @ggangulo 7 месяцев назад +1

    grindfest. love it.

  • @HelenoPaiva
    @HelenoPaiva 7 месяцев назад +1

    Turn 16…. Damn! They managed to drag stuff…

  • @leotamer5
    @leotamer5 2 месяца назад

    I think this the match the really convinced me that Lotho isn't good. Two of the players were mana screwed for half of the game, necropotence drew like 20 cards, and they had a dominate board most of the game, but they had nothing that let them push through interaction to actually win the game. While there was a lot of counter spells, the two blue players must have been bricking on something. If they had less, that probably just means they drew their proactive cards and then kill you before you set everything up.

  • @TaG_
    @TaG_ 7 месяцев назад

    Im yet to watch the episode but im so keen to see my sweet baby boy xyr on the show, its my only cedh deck and i cant wait to see this take on it

  • @user-zf6kr4mn3o
    @user-zf6kr4mn3o 7 месяцев назад

    what sleeves did Lotho use ?

  • @monpuffles2401
    @monpuffles2401 28 дней назад

    why use narset with xyris?

  • @benedictbienias394
    @benedictbienias394 7 месяцев назад

    shouldnt the cabal therapy be in exile due to be being discarded through necropotence?

  • @dreadgray78
    @dreadgray78 7 месяцев назад

    Does Drannith stop Commander Ninjutsu, or did Johnny just choose not to use Yuriko at several opportunities?

    • @EmeraldSmash
      @EmeraldSmash 7 месяцев назад +1

      If you're referring to the beginning, I didn't have colors for the longest time. I took the hand to slow down the game cause I knew I wasn't coming out with a lot early game abs did not want to try my luck at 3 cards

  • @hallucinogenicjello5847
    @hallucinogenicjello5847 7 месяцев назад

    Something interesting that I saw in the Xyris list is the Neoform + Tandem lookout, as well as room for Malcolm + Glint Horn, but no Niv Mizzet?
    When I was was looking at a competitive Xyris list, Niv being an easy commander -> neoform away stuck out to me, but maybe 9 mana compared to 6 mana for the combos is too steep?

  • @jacobschanck5991
    @jacobschanck5991 7 месяцев назад +2

    Crazy you don't t1 fish

  • @rainx381
    @rainx381 7 месяцев назад

  • @dreadgray78
    @dreadgray78 7 месяцев назад

    Didn't matter for the outcome but Peer should have taken 4 life from Zeb not 3 since it rounds up, no?

  • @charlesmaillho367
    @charlesmaillho367 7 месяцев назад +6

    I'm sorry but this was the most flaccid game on this channel with 2 players not doing anything for nearly 8 turns, a counterbalance that made the game a slog, and the peer into the "kingmaking" abyss. I'd say this is far from a cEDH game and more like a mid-to-high powered game.

  • @nubnub8202
    @nubnub8202 7 месяцев назад

    wTF is malcom and glint doing in a Xryis deck??

    • @tking5218
      @tking5218 7 месяцев назад

      Combo? But I agree seems really lackluster.

  • @Gamemaster99959
    @Gamemaster99959 4 месяца назад

    The amount of money on that table...

  • @il-jumpermt7577
    @il-jumpermt7577 7 месяцев назад +1

    No t2 yuriko Mulligan away

  • @FaustTheThird
    @FaustTheThird 7 месяцев назад

    Beautiful, i love seeing stax like this, makes a prison player happy!

  • @andyontaneda996
    @andyontaneda996 7 месяцев назад

    Crazy game

  • @WarmasterSidious
    @WarmasterSidious 7 месяцев назад

    counter balance with another card of the game .... that card is soooooo strong

  • @Renatoooooo1000
    @Renatoooooo1000 7 месяцев назад

    Try Zada!

  • @slymcfly123
    @slymcfly123 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great game. Great variety.

  • @kaasham8871
    @kaasham8871 7 месяцев назад +1

    worst yuriko player... keeps a hand with no 1 mana creature and 2 lands while one is collerless...

  • @oasisgaming7005
    @oasisgaming7005 7 месяцев назад +4

    Crap I forgot to use my patron powers and watch thus early. Now I'm watching it normally like some uncool person that doesn't support this channel :(

  • @codyh5802
    @codyh5802 7 месяцев назад

    Need more Rocco

  • @tosca_albi
    @tosca_albi 7 месяцев назад

    I’m so sorry for the fact Yuriko did not have time to shine in this game in my opinion 😔

    • @blakerobinson4198
      @blakerobinson4198 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, 16 turns. If only they had MORE time, lmao

    • @tosca_albi
      @tosca_albi 7 месяцев назад

      @@blakerobinson4198 i agree with you, i was not talking about time but i was wondering why didn’t enter in play earlier! I was just… sad to not see yuriko, just that 😂

  • @nicolasahumadaherrera3899
    @nicolasahumadaherrera3899 7 месяцев назад

    counterbalance mvp. i think Zeb gift the mach to tia whit this peer

  • @Bleach213monster
    @Bleach213monster 7 месяцев назад

    I feel like they gave Tia that game just because it was a charity stream. But it is fine, just pointing it out.
    This morning it out

  • @markscruggs8346
    @markscruggs8346 7 месяцев назад

    The endings lately have been really disappointing wow

  • @blakemcconnell6213
    @blakemcconnell6213 7 месяцев назад +2

    Niv control may be the most boring cEDH deck to watch.

  • @shadowblaze740
    @shadowblaze740 7 месяцев назад

    3:15
    Bowmasters etb fizzles with birds no longer being a valid target so amass 1 does not happen

  • @Dubhats
    @Dubhats 7 месяцев назад

    Huge punt and kingmaking by Zeb

  • @KIKthaFRIK
    @KIKthaFRIK 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is this an out of season april fools joke?

    • @PlayingWithPowerMTG
      @PlayingWithPowerMTG  7 месяцев назад +1

      No, but if you say that because you didn't think the game was good, that's kind of a mean thing to say.

    • @KIKthaFRIK
      @KIKthaFRIK 7 месяцев назад

      @@PlayingWithPowerMTG it looks even more like an april fools joke after another gameplay where the final statement is that Tatyova is not cedh viable when at least won a tournament and is more used than Xyris

  • @alanrois7941
    @alanrois7941 7 месяцев назад

    That peer didn't make sense

  • @Starkipraggy
    @Starkipraggy 7 месяцев назад

    I'm sure the players had fun, but none of them played well... Player of the game is counterbalance for singlehandedly mental booming zeb into throwing the game.

  • @giorgioleoni3471
    @giorgioleoni3471 7 месяцев назад

    I quit watching for the misplays