(a t-posing heavy) (casually approaches) (a sniper approaches) (hits once) (killbinds) (the heavy killbinds) (the sniper has seen everything) (killbinds) (engineer walks in and immidiately dies) (dead pile of bodies with no clues of what has happened)
- normal - friendly joins server - starts conga - team follows conga - most enemy team follows conga - one enemy farm kills from conga - the enemy team sees whole team died and kill binds - game goes back to normal
@@ponponpatapon9670 Ah yes, OW's balance is awful, compared to TF2, which has *checks notes* 4 viable classes, a strict competitive team format, and a ton of weapons being either banned or (more commonly) too awful to be viable in competitive. I haven't played OW much since role lock (not because of role lock, was just generally losing interest at that point) and I like TF2 a lot conceptually, watching a lot of analysis of it even though I don't really play it, but god damn tf2 people just can't stop acting like it's a straight upgrade from OW in every way.
@@gryphtube And what are the only 4 viable classes and why? And why are the other 5 non viable classes not viable? I have a feeling you are just completely horseshit at the 5 "non viable" classes but would rather blame the class instead of your own skill issue. I completely suck balls at scout, which is why he is my least played class, but I don't go around saying scout is "non viable" and a completely shit class and only the classes I am good at playing are the only viable ones and you can't do anything with the other classes, that is something an entitled brat who wants everything served to him on a silver plate would do. You even admitted that you "don't really play" tf2 in your paragraph, so that supports my argument that you simply suck ass at the 5 classes (if not the entire game) you consider non viable even more.
Another ‘C’ you didn’t mention is “Chaos”, or “Controlled Chaos” I believe the nature of tf2 success stems from the gameplay of the game itself. The characters, the customization, the comedy, the game is fundamentally designed to be a cluster fuck of different aspects as you play. From new players not knowing how to play until they hit the veterans with random crits, ragdolls Valve is able to wield that chaotic mess controlled and precise very flexible with what it can do. I believe this is what translates well into the player base they’re able to replicate that style beyond the game. Especially through its characters. If 100 players each play every class that’s 900 different interpretations of the characters adding even more layers to how we see these 9 mercenaries we love. Not just the 1 personality and we move on the characters act less like actual individuals allowed to express every emotion at any point. You know every niche aspect to how they act their strengths/flaws but enjoy them for who they are. It’s like a brotherhood or family. You go off on your own quest during most of the game but when push come to shove these individuals come together and complete the objective. They’re a Team. The TF2 player base is like a massive family, it’s chaotic with new/ old members, those teaching others skills, trolling each other, we give each other shit, but pick each other up when we’re down. And every generation it continues to grow without ever fading out. The 9 mercenaries, while their own characters, are blank canvas for players to reflect themselves. I Love Team Fortress 2
This reminds me of the Giantgrant games video, of why RTS is dying People don't want high stake ranked games They want Campaigns with fun stories They want to have fun They want tools to fuck about with to make their own games within the game They want to enjoy it how they want to And that's what a lot of Valve games in general do Except CSGO.
Let's all look forward to another decade of TF2. Because frankly, between people still buying hats and weapons from the marketplace, keys from the store, and community servers still running. Team Fortress 2 isn't going to die any time soon.
Another distinguishing factor about the mercs as characters vs other hero shooters is that you can tell what thier character weaknesses are by watching them. Iike Scout i can tell talks himself into problems and has issues with boastfullness while Tracer is basically perfect in game unless you read her backstory elsewhere. Almost everyone in OW is a competent specialist at thier role and so dynamics come down to "serious guy and silly guy have a bit of a catty interaction". Its tell dont show while tf2 basically only ever shows. When i hear winston talk i can tell a few personality traits, when soldier talks i know everything about him.
I'm big into Mordhau (0:30) and Jesus Christ is it fucking stroke inducing now. Since it is so dead, the only people who play it are like level 200+ and absolutely wreck you, which seeing that I'm 80 and can barely keep a positive ratio, I can't imagine what it must be like for new players.
i feel like the reason tf2 is still so popular is because of it's incredible skill cealing and because there's nothing like it for example if you play SCGO or overwatch you'll find it easy to play valorant where as tf2 is completely unique with stuff like ubercharges and the limitless movement posibilities
tf2 just has such a unique take on the arena genre. Most just casual fps games dont have class customization. Some let you change your gun but they all feel the same tf2 make it so each weapon is unique in some way rather than just another machine gun that feels the same as the one before. Ontop of that there is also sub classes so if you are bored of just shooting people use a sword and charge at people.
6:25 This is why I've always said that if valve updated stranges to have higher ranks, more people would play to max them out. People like to look at numbers going up, and some of them have done it all the way past 100k kills and beyond... Wouldn't it be cool to make stranges a type of symbol just as much as any other?
i played tf2 once and got extremely discouraged by a horrible experience but i still come back to all of these videos that just make me want to go right back into tf2 and keep trying for those amazing moments
I mean there’s also the fact that no game has been able to out TF2 TF2. Overwatch tried to but their approach with style over substance and gimmicky trope characters failed to grab the same attention.
I mean, even Medic's description on the TF2 website is just hilarious: "What he lacks in compassion for the sick, respect for human dignity, and any sort of verifiable formal training in medicine, the Medic more than makes up for with a bottomless supply of giant needles and a trembling enthusiasm for plunging them into exposed flesh. Raised in Stuttgart, Germany during an era when the Hippocratic oath had been downgraded to an optional Hippocratic suggestion, the Medic considers healing a generally unintended side effect of satisfying his own morbid curiosity."
@@comradedima9791 It was most likely a surgery rather than an experiment. If that was an approved experiment, he would have been praised for it, but risking the life of your patient and stealing a vital part of their body is absolutely worth a life sentence.
Just one more note to add to Medic: After stealing the Patient's Entire Skeleton, The Patient was STILL ALIVE after that. In other words Medic literally took his Skeleton and he still managed to shrug it off (metaphorically because he has no bones)
I like to imagine medic replaced the patient's skeleton with some cheap plastic display skeleton from the dollar store. Or maybe replaced it with a baboon skeleton, he does that kinda stuff.
@olav olav They just do not express much. In TF2, characters often make comments during combat("Your doctor is dead!My doctor still alive" from Heavy), make them more "lifelike" and less robotic.
Fast caffeine addict, Crazy patriot with lead poisoning, Silent pyromaniac with hallucinations, Drunk one-eye Scot with explosives, Fat gun-loving Russian, Crafty Texan with 11 degrees, Insane German doctor without medical license; Sniper, that throws his piss at enemies and travels Australian wilderness; Shapeshifting ladykiller/assassin, that loves sharp suits and sharper knives.
Pharah: honorary discharge and enlisted in a secret organization Soldier: psychotic WW2 veteran who believes it is still wartime. would kill everybody to take a briefcase
She joins helix, which isn't a secret organization it's a mercenary/private military company. The UN contracts them as the replacement to Overwatch. They are still a sketchy group in the lore but I don't think Pharah knows that yet.
@@Jasonwithadot even when the even try itlenever die because its bin imortlized by how tf2s great + how valve is great its too powerful it has bots and its still alive how
Lazy Purple had a good bit about this in TF2 is a Timeless Masterpiece. Even when you die, its satisfying enough and you know how to improve in the future.
@@realmario979 Apart from Medic, Heavy is the one class that makes you scared just by living. Again, apart from Medic, every second you’re alive feels like a blessing as you’re the second priority target for Spies and Snipers due to being really slow and an “easy” target
The main reasons its still alive is as stated below: • Deep mechanics that allow for thousands of hours of fun gameplay. • Characters are hilarious. • Sillouhets make the characters easier to define (even with cosmetics equipped) and actually make them more distinct between each character. • The retro spytech Americana style. • The humour. • It's a free game. • Content creation through community modding, sfm, youtube, and the workshop. • Very high customizability with cosmetical and graphical options. These factors combined are what makes tf2 timeless and it makes people love and play tf2 and want to keep tf2 alive. I guarantee you that tf2 will still have at the very least a small community in 50 years, its that timeless.
Another thing is the suprise of meme loadouts and friendlies. Probably the only game where you can be shooting enemies in one moment, then die to man rocket jumping and hitting peoplebwith a shovel And after that dancing with the enemy team
I would switch "characters" with "writing" in general. TF2 had a dedicated writers staff of experienced comedians. I also like that the game was intentionally designed with a timeless aesthetic and a bit of edge to the concept. When you look at something like Overwatch, it just screams "design by committee", it feels like a scattershot attempt to appeal to people who like comics, anime and cartoons all at once. It seems cynical and I think most people catch on to that.
I wanna be a little fair to Overwatch (or at least what I've seen of it, never played it but checked out the shorts and comics on a whim). If it's not aiming to be a comedy, having a style that's a bit less out there makes sense. I don't think it's the blandest looking game ever, honestly; people were interested in these characters for a reason. What I will fault Overwatch for is having less consistent and interesting writing in general. Someone once told me a joke about Blizzard locking their writers in separate rooms, and that pretty much sums it up. TF2's lore I guess technically has a similar issue (they make fun of Soldier for getting history completely wrong while also having it canon that Abraham Lincoln wielded a flamethrower), but that in some ways adds to the appeal since it _is_ consistently funny and doesn't mess up characterization (often). With Overwatch, it feels like the writers are forced to make generic and isolated stories because they don't know what exactly the _other_ writers will do with it.
When you look at Overwatch you can tell it was a very "controlled" area of development. It was basically trying to appeal to many different art styles while avoiding anything that been viewed as a bit crude or offensive lol. It almost seems in some ways too serious of a game with that kind of art design. Like Blizzard would never develop a character that has a secondary as a bottle of piss, or a funny dynamic between the scout & spy about the scout's mother. Early on they changed one of the end match poses by Tracer because someone in the community thought it seemed provocative or something, they are overly aware of the image of the characters in a way that I think makes them seem like uninspiring robots. It's a fun game and it was great while the content was going but I rarely cared about the character dynamics and such because it was simply soulless.
ONG BRO. Overwatch is litterally the epitome of "design by committee" That game is genuinely so shit. The only people who genuinely like it are NPC's Im not even some TF2 fanboy, but I cant name a single straight person who touched that game after 2016 bruh. literally the only reason people know about overwatch is the porn.
I think one thing you missed was TF2's sheer meme power. Seriously, you'll see TF2 memes pop up everywhere, even in completely unrelated contexts. Also TF2's simple 60's art style helps it feel timeless, since it's making itself appear much older than it actually is. It doesn't shackle itself to modern art trends.
TF2's art style is just incredible in general. Honest to god had no idea how low poly the character models were until a few months ago. The art style helps hide it so well. I think TF2 still holds up extremely well graphically.
This video is still continuing to get a lot of views so I'll leave this here. As I stated at the beginning of the video, this was exclusively looking at TF2's external factors (i.e. everything but gameplay). A lot of comments keep suggesting ideas about how weapons work, gameplay functions, movements, the engine etc. and whilst you're definitely correct, that wasn't the aim of this video. Anyway, I hope you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
I am still laughing from the inside from spy saying the red spys leader fan club leader is scouts mom and spys scout so he literally saying red spy’s mom
Once again TF2 shows that it's still a timeless masterpiece. Always fun to play Overwatch's motto is perfect for TF2, mercenaries never die. Not even the devs can kill the game 😂
great video man, loved the comparison to OW. more of an OW fan myself but can’t argue it’s customisation doesn’t match TF2! nice throwback to team fabulous 2 as well!
The skins coming out nowadays from Overwatch are pretty nuts. It's really apples to oranges whether or not your prefer TF2's customisation or Overwatch's 'pre-packaged' style.
@@Calvin_Coolage I do agree with you, but even the fact that they're on the saner end of the spectrum says a lot Sniper: alien observing, social outcast outdoorsman turned assassin that pisses in jars and does shrooms for "vision quests." Engineer: Actual genius with 12 phds that cut off his own hand to enhance his capabilities. Has a god complex and uses his intense intellect for building sentries to kill random men in a desert over gravel.
I think we're missing one more element that kind of relates to customizability: the taunts. I think the usage of micro-transactions for special taunts, especially the Congo dance and the Kazotsky kick, is borderline genius. As long as even one player in the server starts dancing, everyone else, regardless of whether you bought the taunts or not, can join in, starting a flash-mob-style dance party. Having them obtainable behind a paywall make them just rare enough that not every server consists of these events. Additionally, the buyers of the taunts are able to give something fun to the other players, which is a stark contrast compared to other games that have micro-transactions that merely buff up the buyer's character, and are able to control when and where to start these events. I have one really fond memory, where I was able to participate in a server that somehow managed to make a long conga line that consist of players from both my team and the enemy's team mid-match. I remember people typing "DISTRACTION 100" and "I love this game" in the chat. -After around 5 minutes of doing this, I got mischievous and started opening fire, ending the conga party- I truly believe this feature brings a lot more contribution to the game than people give credit for.
Finally after years, I've realized why TF2 hasn't updated its game in major updates. Why? Because the way games were made back in the day is actually way better than the way games are made today, the thing is that I can't quite explain why is it like that, but I just have that feeling.
Games nowadays are implementing every psychological trick in the book to get you to play and spend as much as possible. They try harder to be intoxicatingly addictive than to be a quality experience for the love of it. This helps their spreadsheets spit out bigger numbers, but the result is a "maliciously friendly" system that feels off. From a high level of leadership/direction, the intention of building Game XYZ was never to make a "good" game; it was to maximize engagement, play time, or revenue, because that's what looks like success from a strictly business standpoint. It's only surface-level "good", and it feels off because it lacks the level of true soul that creative projects need. TL;DR out of touch corporate management ;)
I don't think that's it, exactly. What I'm told is that Valve management has more or less funneled resources to other projects, while the people left to work on TF2 are kinda stuck working at a snails pace, especially given TF2/Source's spaghetti code. It's where all those gags of "TF2's last developer" come from. This is somewhat the opposite of the problem big budget releases have, where they're so bloated with resources that it's immensely difficult to change course in the middle of production. It's like trying to stop a train going downhill. It's also why a lot of devs have been trying to encourage a more agile approach to development. And in terms of monetization... well, TF2 is sorta _part_ of the reason why monetization in games has gotten out of hand.
I literally get chills every time I hear "Medic!" from Fight Songs. Every song on that album is pure gold and the fact that they released all of the sheet music, for free, is amazing.
I think valve leaving the game alone has a lot to contribute about why this is still around because they set up a fun environment and a bunch of ludicrous things and let people go to town and when you had enough people that liked it they just stop tweaking it. No more Meta shifting new characters or abilities they just stuck with a good thing.
I like how the Engie's theme is this slow Texas burn that could go on forever, but for Dale specifically, expands into a much more menacing key and crescendo as the implications of what exactly he does with his inventions come to light, he sits back, grabs a beer, and watches his guns put so many holes into people that they're taxed as imported Swiss cheese
If you want a simple answer, it's culture. I mean, honestly, what other games have so much culture surrounding them? Think about how much room things related to TF2 take up in your mind. You probably know the functions and names of hundreds of weapons, you know the names given to certain strategies like Trolldier, Pyroshark, and Demoknight, you know the layouts of different maps, the different gamemodes, and all the memes related to different hats with paints and unusual effects. You know the taunts, the voice lines, the way entire servers will join in on a conga line or play rock paper scissors. You probably get the references to hundreds of iconic animations like Team Fabulous 2 and Heavy is Dead. You have become familiar with the characteristics of each class and the way they act in the Meet the Team videos and comics. If you're like me you have watched Expiration Date so many times you can practically recite it by heart. There are dozens of TF2 creators who all have their own sub communities and inside jokes stemming from things in the game, and so much content almost completely unrelated to the game that use the characters and their voices as props. And all of that isn't even including all of the special moments exclusive to your own experiences. I mean, I haven't seriously played TF2 since right after Jungle Inferno came out but I still remember all the time I spent learning to rocket jump or trying over and over to build the Sentry on last by sneaking all the way around the map on attacking. There's just a wealth of culture that people like me have become so attached to that even if we aren't actively playing the game, even if we take a break for years at a time, it will always be a part of our minds.
i get to swim in sewer water :D very amaze this game is you shud play too cuz i got to laugh a sink then comit suicide by pressing p twice and respawn then laugh at enginner gaming and comit die and throw miss paulings milk at peouple then do a kazosty kyck at peple and beat up fat man wit a huge statue saying 'do no horm' and beat people up with a hand and became a fire shork man and eat a fatmans sandwich and chicken then challenged a girl to a eting countest with chiken and build a pootis man and pootis birb as engineer this game prety gud and also i can get drunk in the game becuz a scot man has scrumpy and also beet peple up with scrumpy, tf2 amaze
It is a violent game, but you shouldn't concern yourself over violent themes. Humans are, by nature, violent creatures and also action movies show far more violence. The game has a cartoony art style, but don't bother with it. Let your son play it if he wants to, the community is accepting and he will likely have great fun
2:09 and to make it even crazier . the few prototype of the meet the medic hinted that the medic is a brewer and from prototype make you know that he is not real doctor , he also discovered that mix of demo alcohol piss and medicine made the medgun . this what i mean that all who copied tf2 learned the wrong lessons from tf2 . this why Back 4 blood is not as good as l4d2 . valve just know how to make games . Edit: if it make any sense . Valve make the game because they want to make a game . others make the game because they think they can get the same success .
"Edit: if it make any sense . Valve make the game because they want to make a game . others make the game because they think they can get the same success . " *cough* The only reason Overwatch even exists.
I feel like personally, you should have added a bit to TF2's weapon designs. Almost every weapon in TF2 is a single-shot weapon which makes it feel more rewarding for getting a kill and I rage less often in TF2 than in other games. Even some weapons add that single shot design element to automatic weapons like the Dragon's Fury for Pyro and the Crusader's Crossbow.
@@thepumpkinking8678 Lazypurple and some other TF2 youtubers did talk about the gameplay mechanics or internal things that makes TF2 refused to die. No offense.
Really interesting video! Love the angle you took with it, with not just focusing on the gameplay itself. Earned yourself a sub, looking forward to see whatever you come up with next!
Weapon customizability is so true. I played soldier so much with the stock rocket launcher just because I traded a skin for it. When I got bored of it, I put a kill counter and now I'm playing with it like if it was new
nice to see someone else also realizes how good the music is for each character ever since I learned a little heart to heart on the piano I realized how geniuses the music was and I was surprised no-one realized this
I still think TF2 is the weakest best game VALVe has. Half Life, Portal, L4D, CS (even Day Of Defeat if valve gave it a chance) are better than team fortress. Everytime I boot it up, I always have it in the back of my mind that its a glorified Half Life mod (not really a bad thing), from the movement to the blastjumping to all the tiny quirks of the engine it runs on (Source), I will admit that its fun (when people arent super competitive) and has introduced interesting and cool new stuff (Spy and Engineer come to mind since it changes it from your average shooter) but the other VALVe games really just feel better to play than tf2.
2:23 actually if you are making a videogame that the history is set in the 60s to 70s the first thing that comes to your mind doing a medic support class is a mad german doctor. because 2 war ended in the 1945 the backstory is not as important as the character developing because you can have a character with a bland backstory and then make a great character like captain america his backstory of being a super soldier is bland but how he acts and how he interacts with his allies is what makes him a great character. edit: what i like from tf2 is his character developing thanks to the comics giving those characters look more human
you may say the tf2 community is weird and toxic, but never look past the hard working content creators that we got that keep us hoping for a better day
You also kinda forgot to mention the tf2 weapon loadouts. In tf2 most weapons change the way you play the class and gives you more reazons to play as a single class often. Unlike overwatch where you only have 1 or 2 weapons /abilities for a character.
You might have missed it but during the introduction I said I was only analysing factors external to the gameplay. If I were doing a video about gameplay, I would definitely look to include the variety in weapons but that's not what this video essay was about. But I do 100% agree with you.
team fortress 2 fans thinking its the best game ever made and no other game has done what it does better
yeah
@@elmaxoTF2 lol chad move
AYO THE PIZZA HERE. am i interrupting something?
I hate how thats the mindset cause it just ain't true lol
@@fnutek3720 Please, provide an example and prepare to get torn into. Probably not by me though.
You forgot the 4th C, comedy. Stupid shit in this game always make me laugh, ragdolls, kill binds, clueless players, named weapons, everything
(a t-posing heavy)
(casually approaches)
(a sniper approaches)
(hits once)
(killbinds)
(the heavy killbinds)
(the sniper has seen everything)
(killbinds)
(engineer walks in and immidiately dies)
(dead pile of bodies with no clues of what has happened)
@@yesm2840 (another t-posing heavy joins)
(spins) (turns on voice chat) (the lincolnshire poacher turns on)
- normal
- friendly joins server
- starts conga
- team follows conga
- most enemy team follows conga
- one enemy farm kills from conga
- the enemy team sees whole team died and kill binds
- game goes back to normal
@@zanwrightmfwr756 the cycle of teufort
But the Comedy is dying now. Bots are just ruining funs when people dancing in 2fort.
Mercy: "Heroes Never Die!"
Medic: "Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting."
also Medic: "Ze hurting is not as rewarding as ze healing."
also Medic: "Ze hurting is not as rewarding as ze healing."
also Medic: “Ze hurting is not as rewarding as ze healing.”
also Medic: "I CANT TAKE IT ANYMOREEEEEEEE!."
Soldier "You did not have permission to die!"
Mercy: “hero’s never die [brings people back from the dead]” “thanks doctor”
Medic: “ARE YOU SURE THIS WILL WORK” “I have no idea [uses Uber charge]”
eiren: hey guys
Reinhardt: charges you against a wall and puts you in a bad spot
Heavy: preforms a finger gun as if it was real and one hit KO someone
@@The_whales kid named finger
I love how many people do their own Team Fortress 2 Apreciation videos. This game means so much to so many people, and it makes me a little emotional.
Comparing Overwatch to TF2 is like comparing a rice cake to a buffet.
overwatch's visual clarity and balance is fucking awful, those two reasons are the most prominent reasons i don't play it.
@@ponponpatapon9670 Ah yes, OW's balance is awful, compared to TF2, which has *checks notes* 4 viable classes, a strict competitive team format, and a ton of weapons being either banned or (more commonly) too awful to be viable in competitive.
I haven't played OW much since role lock (not because of role lock, was just generally losing interest at that point) and I like TF2 a lot conceptually, watching a lot of analysis of it even though I don't really play it, but god damn tf2 people just can't stop acting like it's a straight upgrade from OW in every way.
amen
@@gryphtube And what are the only 4 viable classes and why? And why are the other 5 non viable classes not viable? I have a feeling you are just completely horseshit at the 5 "non viable" classes but would rather blame the class instead of your own skill issue. I completely suck balls at scout, which is why he is my least played class, but I don't go around saying scout is "non viable" and a completely shit class and only the classes I am good at playing are the only viable ones and you can't do anything with the other classes, that is something an entitled brat who wants everything served to him on a silver plate would do. You even admitted that you "don't really play" tf2 in your paragraph, so that supports my argument that you simply suck ass at the 5 classes (if not the entire game) you consider non viable even more.
@@gryphtube shut up, big minigun man goes ratatata🤬😡.
I approve 👌
"Remember son, dieing is gay!"
-Soldier, dressed as Sun Tzu
Sure dave
I like how he said nothing when describing Pyro
This video just convinced me to get back into TF2.
we love to see it
Another ‘C’ you didn’t mention is “Chaos”, or “Controlled Chaos”
I believe the nature of tf2 success stems from the gameplay of the game itself. The characters, the customization, the comedy, the game is fundamentally designed to be a cluster fuck of different aspects as you play. From new players not knowing how to play until they hit the veterans with random crits, ragdolls
Valve is able to wield that chaotic mess controlled and precise very flexible with what it can do.
I believe this is what translates well into the player base they’re able to replicate that style beyond the game. Especially through its characters. If 100 players each play every class that’s 900 different interpretations of the characters adding even more layers to how we see these 9 mercenaries we love. Not just the 1 personality and we move on the characters act less like actual individuals allowed to express every emotion at any point. You know every niche aspect to how they act their strengths/flaws but enjoy them for who they are. It’s like a brotherhood or family. You go off on your own quest during most of the game but when push come to shove these individuals come together and complete the objective. They’re a Team.
The TF2 player base is like a massive family, it’s chaotic with new/ old members, those teaching others skills, trolling each other, we give each other shit, but pick each other up when we’re down. And every generation it continues to grow without ever fading out. The 9 mercenaries, while their own characters, are blank canvas for players to reflect themselves.
I Love Team Fortress 2
i think the bongos in scouts "theme" is his footsteps
fun fact: 2:57 is wrong, while the description was left there as a joke the description was made by the community and not the actually tf2 dev
This reminds me of the Giantgrant games video, of why RTS is dying
People don't want high stake ranked games
They want Campaigns with fun stories
They want to have fun
They want tools to fuck about with to make their own games within the game
They want to enjoy it how they want to
And that's what a lot of Valve games in general do
Except CSGO.
Community is so active, Valve doesn't have to do anything. It's a part of the problem.
You forgot the 4th/5th C. Comics. The comics are almost forgotten by many people and are an untapped meme goldmine.
5:42 Jamie fit Jamie fit
Let's all look forward to another decade of TF2.
Because frankly, between people still buying hats and weapons from the marketplace, keys from the store, and community servers still running. Team Fortress 2 isn't going to die any time soon.
The community is doing Valve's job at this point, custom MvM missions, rebalance mods, custom weapons... I don't see it dying anytime soon.
Developer 1: are u sure this will work
Developer 2: I have no idea
*20 years later still never died*
Another distinguishing factor about the mercs as characters vs other hero shooters is that you can tell what thier character weaknesses are by watching them. Iike Scout i can tell talks himself into problems and has issues with boastfullness while Tracer is basically perfect in game unless you read her backstory elsewhere. Almost everyone in OW is a competent specialist at thier role and so dynamics come down to "serious guy and silly guy have a bit of a catty interaction". Its tell dont show while tf2 basically only ever shows. When i hear winston talk i can tell a few personality traits, when soldier talks i know everything about him.
I'm big into Mordhau (0:30) and Jesus Christ is it fucking stroke inducing now. Since it is so dead, the only people who play it are like level 200+ and absolutely wreck you, which seeing that I'm 80 and can barely keep a positive ratio, I can't imagine what it must be like for new players.
I got fucked at every single game, never got more than 2 kills before being killed, but it's still fun
That scout jacket text should have never been allowed passed QA. 😅 shows how much Valve cares doesn't it?
I was NOT ready for Minion Pyro.
i feel like the reason tf2 is still so popular is because of it's incredible skill cealing
and because there's nothing like it
for example if you play SCGO or overwatch you'll find it easy to play valorant
where as tf2 is completely unique with stuff like ubercharges and the limitless movement posibilities
tf2 just has such a unique take on the arena genre. Most just casual fps games dont have class customization. Some let you change your gun but they all feel the same tf2 make it so each weapon is unique in some way rather than just another machine gun that feels the same as the one before. Ontop of that there is also sub classes so if you are bored of just shooting people use a sword and charge at people.
I like how there was only 1 guy in the live chat
I know everyone here heard what the heavy said in their heads at 3:46
6:25 This is why I've always said that if valve updated stranges to have higher ranks, more people would play to max them out. People like to look at numbers going up, and some of them have done it all the way past 100k kills and beyond... Wouldn't it be cool to make stranges a type of symbol just as much as any other?
i played tf2 once and got extremely discouraged by a horrible experience but i still come back to all of these videos that just make me want to go right back into tf2 and keep trying for those amazing moments
Relative to other communities I have found TF2 has a lot less toxicity but it definitely isn't free of it.
I mean there’s also the fact that no game has been able to out TF2 TF2. Overwatch tried to but their approach with style over substance and gimmicky trope characters failed to grab the same attention.
Customizibility is my favorite aspect of video games
Too bad I suck at making tf2 load outs :(
I LOVE how valve does skins.
Its a big reason I prefer dota over league.
Not the main reason by far, but a big one.
TF2: I don't have permission to die
The bots: attempt to kill TF2
The fans: Refuse to let TF2 die
Valve: *Fine, I'll do it myself*
2:54 great! Another insult to add to the "Book Of Insults To Use Against Scunts"
me: HOW ARE YOU NOT DEAD?!
tf2: I HAVE NO IDEA :D
I like the fact what soldier said about Sun Tzu could be true
also you can have like 80 fps on decade old laptops, ones that were cheap back in the day mind you
It refuses to die because the 2007 version is still up and running well
I mean, even Medic's description on the TF2 website is just hilarious:
"What he lacks in compassion for the sick, respect for human dignity, and any sort of verifiable formal training in medicine, the Medic more than makes up for with a bottomless supply of giant needles and a trembling enthusiasm for plunging them into exposed flesh. Raised in Stuttgart, Germany during an era when the Hippocratic oath had been downgraded to an optional Hippocratic suggestion, the Medic considers healing a generally unintended side effect of satisfying his own morbid curiosity."
tbf, he once had a medical license to his name …. somehow.
@@Appletank8 and he lost it by remove someone's skeleton but he still manage to stay alive so I say medic is a good doctor
@@comradedima9791 It was most likely a surgery rather than an experiment. If that was an approved experiment, he would have been praised for it, but risking the life of your patient and stealing a vital part of their body is absolutely worth a life sentence.
@@Appletank8 Most likely during ww2 when the bars were pretty low.
It’s my fan theory he lost it after performing on zhe fuher
Just one more note to add to Medic:
After stealing the Patient's Entire Skeleton, The Patient was STILL ALIVE after that. In other words Medic literally took his Skeleton and he still managed to shrug it off (metaphorically because he has no bones)
just like that episode of family guy where peter gets rid of all of his bones
@@rifqihatta he can't speak. how did he sue medic-
@@yesdog2535 Either the other doctors and stuff or the government found out about it or he didn't steal his skull.
I like to imagine medic replaced the patient's skeleton with some cheap plastic display skeleton from the dollar store. Or maybe replaced it with a baboon skeleton, he does that kinda stuff.
@@jerrycoolmanio1 He actually DIDN'T replace the Skeleton at all, he was essentially a pile of living organs
*Widowmaker:* _brainwashed by a criminal organization to assassinate her own husband_
*Sniper:* “I’m not a crazed gunman, Dad!”
Overwatch is mostly known for R34 with it's characters, and it says a lot.
"...First thing is mental disease, second thing is just a job, dad!"
"One is a job and the others is mental sickness"
@olav olav They just do not express much. In TF2, characters often make comments during combat("Your doctor is dead!My doctor still alive" from Heavy), make them more "lifelike" and less robotic.
"im an assasin, theres a difference!
..whats the difference? ones a job and the other MENTAL SICKNESS!"
"There's this Fast Numbskull"
"Crazy Patriot"
"...."
"Explosive Drunkard"
"F a t"
Fast caffeine addict,
Crazy patriot with lead poisoning,
Silent pyromaniac with hallucinations,
Drunk one-eye Scot with explosives,
Fat gun-loving Russian,
Crafty Texan with 11 degrees,
Insane German doctor without medical license;
Sniper, that throws his piss at enemies and travels Australian wilderness;
Shapeshifting ladykiller/assassin, that loves sharp suits and sharper knives.
@@ceu160193 Actually, heavy has a PhD in literature, which is surprising, but also quite funny.
"Speedy Virgin"
"Crazy Retard"
"April Fool's Character"
"Wasted Skirt Man"
"Fatass Weapons Guy"
"You Heed Your Last Haw"
"Hitler's Distant Cousin"
"Forever Piss Lover"
"Bastard's Father"
@@NurseAmamiya LMAO
@@bowenjudd1028 russian literature
Also, medic tf2 is 100% hotter than mercy overwatch just sayin
There really is no competition in that department
That's silly comparing some generic Blender-made girl to a hot German man in his finest years who saves lives in a unique badass way.
dude u down bad af
@@deeznutz.6263 nah he got a point
@@deeznutz.6263 Have you see Medic with burly beast?
Pharah: honorary discharge and enlisted in a secret organization
Soldier: psychotic WW2 veteran who believes it is still wartime. would kill everybody to take a briefcase
She joins helix, which isn't a secret organization it's a mercenary/private military company. The UN contracts them as the replacement to Overwatch. They are still a sketchy group in the lore but I don't think Pharah knows that yet.
More like a Psychotic man who creates rocket launchers out of trash and drinks lead water
@@lowduck5554 just sounds like shitty, sappy fantasy tbh while all of tf2's stories are hilarious
@@lowduck5554 you aint gonna convince anyone buddy
soldier has never served in the army/military
Valve: “I’ve already left TF2 to die.”
TF2: “Question.”
Valve: “What’s your question, TF2?”
TF2: *”I Did Not Ask Permission To Die.”*
I mean valve wont let tf2 die if they are making money out of it
@@Jasonwithadot hahaha
@@Jasonwithadot even when the even try itlenever die because its bin imortlized by how tf2s great + how valve is great its too powerful
it has bots and its still alive how
Valve:” how. Much”
Tf2:” i have refused to die for about 6 years”
@@themusicboy9766 My boy speak normally; it's been not bin.
in normal shooters i rage like: dude i don't have that weapon that's OP but in tf2 when i get killed it feels like hey atleast i tried
Lazy Purple had a good bit about this in TF2 is a Timeless Masterpiece. Even when you die, its satisfying enough and you know how to improve in the future.
@@elmaxoTF2 Except when you get backstabbed 27 times in 2fort for existing as heavy
In team fortress two, everyone os overpowered
@@realmario979 Apart from Medic, Heavy is the one class that makes you scared just by living. Again, apart from Medic, every second you’re alive feels like a blessing as you’re the second priority target for Spies and Snipers due to being really slow and an “easy” target
unless it's sniper
The main reasons its still alive is as stated below:
• Deep mechanics that allow for thousands of hours of fun gameplay.
• Characters are hilarious.
• Sillouhets make the characters easier to define (even with cosmetics equipped) and actually make them more distinct between each character.
• The retro spytech Americana style.
• The humour.
• It's a free game.
• Content creation through community modding, sfm, youtube, and the workshop.
• Very high customizability with cosmetical and graphical options.
These factors combined are what makes tf2 timeless and it makes people love and play tf2 and want to keep tf2 alive. I guarantee you that tf2 will still have at the very least a small community in 50 years, its that timeless.
Another thing is the suprise of meme loadouts and friendlies. Probably the only game where you can be shooting enemies in one moment, then die to man rocket jumping and hitting peoplebwith a shovel
And after that dancing with the enemy team
I'm still gonna be playing it in 50 years
random in-game momments?
@@kalsten2236 getting market gardened
Taunt kills
A flying black scottsman hitting you with a ww2 grenade and both of you blow up?
@@lukalaa1764 yeah those moments
I would switch "characters" with "writing" in general. TF2 had a dedicated writers staff of experienced comedians. I also like that the game was intentionally designed with a timeless aesthetic and a bit of edge to the concept.
When you look at something like Overwatch, it just screams "design by committee", it feels like a scattershot attempt to appeal to people who like comics, anime and cartoons all at once. It seems cynical and I think most people catch on to that.
I’d agree with the writing point if I weren’t trying to get the alliteration thing going, but you’re spot on.
I wanna be a little fair to Overwatch (or at least what I've seen of it, never played it but checked out the shorts and comics on a whim). If it's not aiming to be a comedy, having a style that's a bit less out there makes sense. I don't think it's the blandest looking game ever, honestly; people were interested in these characters for a reason.
What I will fault Overwatch for is having less consistent and interesting writing in general. Someone once told me a joke about Blizzard locking their writers in separate rooms, and that pretty much sums it up. TF2's lore I guess technically has a similar issue (they make fun of Soldier for getting history completely wrong while also having it canon that Abraham Lincoln wielded a flamethrower), but that in some ways adds to the appeal since it _is_ consistently funny and doesn't mess up characterization (often). With Overwatch, it feels like the writers are forced to make generic and isolated stories because they don't know what exactly the _other_ writers will do with it.
When you look at Overwatch you can tell it was a very "controlled" area of development. It was basically trying to appeal to many different art styles while avoiding anything that been viewed as a bit crude or offensive lol. It almost seems in some ways too serious of a game with that kind of art design. Like Blizzard would never develop a character that has a secondary as a bottle of piss, or a funny dynamic between the scout & spy about the scout's mother. Early on they changed one of the end match poses by Tracer because someone in the community thought it seemed provocative or something, they are overly aware of the image of the characters in a way that I think makes them seem like uninspiring robots.
It's a fun game and it was great while the content was going but I rarely cared about the character dynamics and such because it was simply soulless.
ONG BRO.
Overwatch is litterally the epitome of "design by committee"
That game is genuinely so shit. The only people who genuinely like it are NPC's
Im not even some TF2 fanboy, but I cant name a single straight person who touched that game after 2016 bruh.
literally the only reason people know about overwatch is the porn.
@@elmaxoTF2where is the Comunity?
I think one thing you missed was TF2's sheer meme power. Seriously, you'll see TF2 memes pop up everywhere, even in completely unrelated contexts.
Also TF2's simple 60's art style helps it feel timeless, since it's making itself appear much older than it actually is. It doesn't shackle itself to modern art trends.
TF2's art style is just incredible in general. Honest to god had no idea how low poly the character models were until a few months ago. The art style helps hide it so well.
I think TF2 still holds up extremely well graphically.
@@SU76M Don't see what that's got to do with it, but alright.
@@SU76M so gay people never existed until now? K
@@theoddster830 yeah they didnt
@@Vanux867 this
This video is still continuing to get a lot of views so I'll leave this here. As I stated at the beginning of the video, this was exclusively looking at TF2's external factors (i.e. everything but gameplay). A lot of comments keep suggesting ideas about how weapons work, gameplay functions, movements, the engine etc. and whilst you're definitely correct, that wasn't the aim of this video.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
We need a TF2 character to be playable in Super Smash Bros Ultimate. Please help spread the word throughout the TF2 and Smash communities.
Hhg
I am still laughing from the inside from spy saying the red spys leader fan club leader is scouts mom and spys scout so he literally saying red spy’s mom
You forgot about the memes!!!!
,
Funny how "cutting edge" these days just means catching up to valve
always has been
couldnt be more accurate lmao. Half Life: Alyx especially with the graphics
Thats why they are delaying Half life 3 indefinitely. So they wont clown everyone else.
I see that Yahtzee quote
@@DragonDaggerFeenix Yes, but that doesn't make it any less true!
Overwatch's frontlines:"Get behind the barrier!"
TF2's fronlines:"mEeDic!"
Medic gaming
@@enderman5423 engineer gaming
@@blueengineer4554 heavy gaming
@@enderman5423 spy gaming
@@blueengineer4554 Purro gamng
Once again TF2 shows that it's still a timeless masterpiece. Always fun to play
Overwatch's motto is perfect for TF2, mercenaries never die. Not even the devs can kill the game 😂
Where ever I go
I see you
great video man, loved the comparison to OW. more of an OW fan myself but can’t argue it’s customisation doesn’t match TF2!
nice throwback to team fabulous 2 as well!
The skins coming out nowadays from Overwatch are pretty nuts. It's really apples to oranges whether or not your prefer TF2's customisation or Overwatch's 'pre-packaged' style.
The fact that heavy is on the more sane side is... wow
Heavy is probably the most sane and smart member of the team (at least in a scholar sense, big guy studied russian literature)
@@furinick I think Sniper and Engineer are pretty sane. Relatively speaking.
@@Calvin_Coolage I do agree with you, but even the fact that they're on the saner end of the spectrum says a lot
Sniper: alien observing, social outcast outdoorsman turned assassin that pisses in jars and does shrooms for "vision quests."
Engineer: Actual genius with 12 phds that cut off his own hand to enhance his capabilities. Has a god complex and uses his intense intellect for building sentries to kill random men in a desert over gravel.
@@kamakiriad for money. He kills them for money
@@vyor8837
tbf, they're all mercs, they all kill for money.
I think we're missing one more element that kind of relates to customizability: the taunts.
I think the usage of micro-transactions for special taunts, especially the Congo dance and the Kazotsky kick, is borderline genius. As long as even one player in the server starts dancing, everyone else, regardless of whether you bought the taunts or not, can join in, starting a flash-mob-style dance party. Having them obtainable behind a paywall make them just rare enough that not every server consists of these events. Additionally, the buyers of the taunts are able to give something fun to the other players, which is a stark contrast compared to other games that have micro-transactions that merely buff up the buyer's character, and are able to control when and where to start these events.
I have one really fond memory, where I was able to participate in a server that somehow managed to make a long conga line that consist of players from both my team and the enemy's team mid-match. I remember people typing "DISTRACTION 100" and "I love this game" in the chat. -After around 5 minutes of doing this, I got mischievous and started opening fire, ending the conga party-
I truly believe this feature brings a lot more contribution to the game than people give credit for.
Finally after years, I've realized why TF2 hasn't updated its game in major updates. Why? Because the way games were made back in the day is actually way better than the way games are made today, the thing is that I can't quite explain why is it like that, but I just have that feeling.
Games nowadays are implementing every psychological trick in the book to get you to play and spend as much as possible. They try harder to be intoxicatingly addictive than to be a quality experience for the love of it. This helps their spreadsheets spit out bigger numbers, but the result is a "maliciously friendly" system that feels off.
From a high level of leadership/direction, the intention of building Game XYZ was never to make a "good" game; it was to maximize engagement, play time, or revenue, because that's what looks like success from a strictly business standpoint. It's only surface-level "good", and it feels off because it lacks the level of true soul that creative projects need.
TL;DR out of touch corporate management ;)
I don't think that's it, exactly. What I'm told is that Valve management has more or less funneled resources to other projects, while the people left to work on TF2 are kinda stuck working at a snails pace, especially given TF2/Source's spaghetti code. It's where all those gags of "TF2's last developer" come from. This is somewhat the opposite of the problem big budget releases have, where they're so bloated with resources that it's immensely difficult to change course in the middle of production. It's like trying to stop a train going downhill. It's also why a lot of devs have been trying to encourage a more agile approach to development.
And in terms of monetization... well, TF2 is sorta _part_ of the reason why monetization in games has gotten out of hand.
“I did not have permission to die!”
-Soldier, TF2
I literally get chills every time I hear "Medic!" from Fight Songs. Every song on that album is pure gold and the fact that they released all of the sheet music, for free, is amazing.
"I think I could write an entire PhD thesis on the TF2 characters"
Okay, first of all, what would the PhD fall under, and two, do it.
I think valve leaving the game alone has a lot to contribute about why this is still around because they set up a fun environment and a bunch of ludicrous things and let people go to town and when you had enough people that liked it they just stop tweaking it. No more Meta shifting new characters or abilities they just stuck with a good thing.
Valve: im gonna kill tf2
TF2: no.
*no.*
#SaveTF2 : *no.*
im ur first dislike i dont hate you i just want to be the first one to dislike
i don't know how to react to this comment
@@elmaxoTF2 lmao
ill be the second just because i wasnt to be the second dislike
@@questionablepotato4051 i dont know how i feel about this guys
I wonder whos going to be the third
"Son, always remember, dying is gay"
-Soilders Dad
I like how the Engie's theme is this slow Texas burn that could go on forever, but for Dale specifically, expands into a much more menacing key and crescendo as the implications of what exactly he does with his inventions come to light, he sits back, grabs a beer, and watches his guns put so many holes into people that they're taxed as imported Swiss cheese
Glad i found your video on Reddit.
It was fun to watch and you speak thw truth.
*insert pic of Flower Demoman saying "You are doing good lad"*
Thank you so much, it really means a lot. I've got a few ideas for videos like this in the future, so look forward to that!
You can be sure that we are looking forward to those videos! Keep it up! :)
Scout: fast numbskull
Soldier: crazy patriot
Pyro: *n̷̦̤͉͍̯̰̮̭͊̏͑͆͌̈́̃̕͘ǫ̶̢͓͎͖͙̙̪̑ṱ̸̿͝h̷̨̨̻͍̰̞̫̼̐̆ͅͅi̴̱̱̖̯̗͌̈́̽͜͠ṉ̸̮̼̘̒́̂͠͠g̷̠͛̂́̇̅͒̚͠c̷̗̬͓͎̍ä̷̛̮̼̳̈́̿̍̏̑̂̿̚n̸̨̢͚͊̓́̐̒̃̄̇͑͝š̶̝͖̗̳̪̖̬̦̫͇a̸̘̰͂̇̓͑̔v̷̨̛̯̲̮͇̫͈̎͆͠e̷̛̫̲̝̒̔̃͐̈́͊͠y̷̙͚͈̦̟̳̟͚͐̐̃̀͠o̶̧͖͉̲͓̻͐̇̈͂͘u̸͉̤̟̠͑*
Demoman: explosive drunkard
Heavy: fat
Engineer: builder-texas-man
Medic: psychotic doctor
Sniper: australian hitman
Spy: *french noises*
French Snort Noises, just like in every Gmod animations!
Pyro is also drugged out of his mind, he sees medical supplies (Drugs) as candy, he literally eats/ingests drugs like they’re candy
and now you just wait for algorithm magic
im hoping and praying
@@elmaxoTF2 i got it in my recommended, good video btw
@@potatoslayer69420 thanks man, glad you enjoyed
@@elmaxoTF2 oh it's working
"If you ask me, one of these characters seems abit more interesting than the other."
R34 and 3D NSFW artists: "Agreed"
If you want a simple answer, it's culture. I mean, honestly, what other games have so much culture surrounding them? Think about how much room things related to TF2 take up in your mind. You probably know the functions and names of hundreds of weapons, you know the names given to certain strategies like Trolldier, Pyroshark, and Demoknight, you know the layouts of different maps, the different gamemodes, and all the memes related to different hats with paints and unusual effects. You know the taunts, the voice lines, the way entire servers will join in on a conga line or play rock paper scissors. You probably get the references to hundreds of iconic animations like Team Fabulous 2 and Heavy is Dead. You have become familiar with the characteristics of each class and the way they act in the Meet the Team videos and comics. If you're like me you have watched Expiration Date so many times you can practically recite it by heart. There are dozens of TF2 creators who all have their own sub communities and inside jokes stemming from things in the game, and so much content almost completely unrelated to the game that use the characters and their voices as props. And all of that isn't even including all of the special moments exclusive to your own experiences. I mean, I haven't seriously played TF2 since right after Jungle Inferno came out but I still remember all the time I spent learning to rocket jump or trying over and over to build the Sentry on last by sneaking all the way around the map on attacking. There's just a wealth of culture that people like me have become so attached to that even if we aren't actively playing the game, even if we take a break for years at a time, it will always be a part of our minds.
the meet the videos are all cinematic masterpieces. eternal success was inevitable.
Every OG tf2 player knows it just won't die, not sure it's a secret any longer
Is this the videogame my son's been playing on his computer book? Looks too silly for my liking, and much too violent.
very violent. i once saw the young man from boston smack the fat man with a baseball bat.
@@elmaxoTF2 tf2 moment
i get to swim in sewer water :D very amaze this game is you shud play too cuz i got to laugh a sink then comit suicide by pressing p twice and respawn then laugh at enginner gaming and comit die and throw miss paulings milk at peouple then do a kazosty kyck at peple and beat up fat man wit a huge statue saying 'do no horm' and beat people up with a hand and became a fire shork man and eat a fatmans sandwich and chicken then challenged a girl to a eting countest with chiken and build a pootis man and pootis birb as engineer this game prety gud and also i can get drunk in the game becuz a scot man has scrumpy and also beet peple up with scrumpy, tf2 amaze
It is a violent game, but you shouldn't concern yourself over violent themes.
Humans are, by nature, violent creatures and also action movies show far more violence. The game has a cartoony art style, but don't bother with it. Let your son play it if he wants to, the community is accepting and he will likely have great fun
@@Azachor humans are not violent they are adventurous creatures
"This is TF2"
"Dear GOD"
*"This is the best game ever"*
*_"YES"_*
Yes it is
3:45
"you can't hear videos with no audio."
me: OH MY GOD, WHO TOUCHED SASHA?!
Alright. WHO TOUCHED MY GUN?!
if I'm not mistaken, tf2 cosmetics, skins and unusua effects take up more space than the other game assets combined
@Sparks heck no, except for the bots, they need to go, and bugs, and some disgusting unusual effects
@Sparks only thing that the game needs is complete removal of the damn bots
Ooh new star approaches the scene
2:09 and to make it even crazier . the few prototype of the meet the medic hinted that the medic is a brewer and from prototype make you know that he is not real doctor , he also discovered that mix of demo alcohol piss and medicine made the medgun .
this what i mean that all who copied tf2 learned the wrong lessons from tf2 . this why Back 4 blood is not as good as l4d2 . valve just know how to make games .
Edit: if it make any sense . Valve make the game because they want to make a game . others make the game because they think they can get the same success .
"Edit: if it make any sense . Valve make the game because they want to make a game . others make the game because they think they can get the same success .
"
*cough*
The only reason Overwatch even exists.
I feel like personally, you should have added a bit to TF2's weapon designs. Almost every weapon in TF2 is a single-shot weapon which makes it feel more rewarding for getting a kill and I rage less often in TF2 than in other games. Even some weapons add that single shot design element to automatic weapons like the Dragon's Fury for Pyro and the Crusader's Crossbow.
he focused on factors outside the gameplay, thats why he called it the "3 *external* c's"
Forgot to add "-lazypurple"
@@fnutek3720 Why should I credit Lazypurple for this? I don't watch his videos
@@thepumpkinking8678 Lazypurple and some other TF2 youtubers did talk about the gameplay mechanics or internal things that makes TF2 refused to die. No offense.
@@fnutek3720 Yeah, it's like... word for word part of the "timeless masterpiece" video xD
Really interesting video! Love the angle you took with it, with not just focusing on the gameplay itself. Earned yourself a sub, looking forward to see whatever you come up with next!
I'm really proud of this video and it means so much you enjoyed it!
Tf2 and cod 4 were the games that got me into shooters 💪❤️
How to make over half the tf2 community sad.
Step 1: mention team fabulous 2 or kitty0706
Step 2: Rick May
Overwatch:
I'll send you my consultation fee.
TF2:
Sorry there, nurse. I mistook ya for an actual threat!
This game really changed my life mentally, I am really upset the developers still aren't utilizing on the endless potential it has
Weapon customizability is so true. I played soldier so much with the stock rocket launcher just because I traded a skin for it. When I got bored of it, I put a kill counter and now I'm playing with it like if it was new
The true answer is TF2 just has an ancient gaming chair that keeps the game alive B )
TF2 has so much potential with the amazing fan base it has, if only valve would open their eyes
@Sparks That's the Overwatch fanbase, over there. Mixed in with some SJW troons.
@Sparks I didn't know that being 13 years old and being bullied at school made you less of a person.
ridiculous XD
Amazing video, could not put into better words in explaining the immortality of tf2
No community?
TF2 community go brrrrrrrrr
*Source SDK intensifies*
Everytime I see a RUclips Vid about TF2. I get this strong desire to hop in a match of TF2 :)
nice to see someone else also realizes how good the music is for each character ever since I learned a little heart to heart on the piano I realized how geniuses the music was and I was surprised no-one realized this
I still think TF2 is the weakest best game VALVe has. Half Life, Portal, L4D, CS (even Day Of Defeat if valve gave it a chance) are better than team fortress. Everytime I boot it up, I always have it in the back of my mind that its a glorified Half Life mod (not really a bad thing), from the movement to the blastjumping to all the tiny quirks of the engine it runs on (Source), I will admit that its fun (when people arent super competitive) and has introduced interesting and cool new stuff (Spy and Engineer come to mind since it changes it from your average shooter) but the other VALVe games really just feel better to play than tf2.
1:14 truck freak, crazy ass, *•••* , the fighter
2:23 actually if you are making a videogame that the history is set in the 60s to 70s the first thing that comes to your mind doing a medic support class is a mad german doctor.
because 2 war ended in the 1945
the backstory is not as important as the character developing because you can have a character with a bland backstory and then make a great character like captain america his backstory of being a super soldier is bland but how he acts and how he interacts with his allies is what makes him a great character.
edit: what i like from tf2 is his character developing thanks to the comics giving those characters look more human
The Track Terrorizer description... Wow. I'm trying to imagine the Scout making sure they're 18 and stuff.
TF2 is timeless classic, i will never forget the times i had with friends playing the game
future game:how are you still alive
tf2:idk i just do my job
you may say the tf2 community is weird and toxic, but never look past the hard working content creators that we got that keep us hoping for a better day
Because of larger teams, it's easier to isolate toxic players without ruining whole round.
I seen too much toxicity from dota 2, world of warcraft, and overwatch. tf2 is a nice community in comparison.
You also kinda forgot to mention the tf2 weapon loadouts. In tf2 most weapons change the way you play the class and gives you more reazons to play as a single class often. Unlike overwatch where you only have 1 or 2 weapons /abilities for a character.
You might have missed it but during the introduction I said I was only analysing factors external to the gameplay. If I were doing a video about gameplay, I would definitely look to include the variety in weapons but that's not what this video essay was about. But I do 100% agree with you.
@@elmaxoTF2 Sorry forgot about that lol
@@bottomgayminguwu sussy baka
I mean I would have put it under customisation but that's just me
@olav olav bro, that doesn't even make sense