Why England Were So Much Better Against the Netherlands
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:37 Englands Early Tactical Advantage
05:03 Koeman's Clever Substitutions
06:53 Second Half Frustrations
07:57 Southgate's Super Subs 
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Anywhere else on the pitch that’s a foul in my mind. I can see why people don’t think it’s a penalty, but if you make contact with studs up like that you’re likely to be concede a foul.
Facts
Depay was the worst player on the pitch until he was subbed off. Heavy touches, wrong off-ball movement. He didn't look happy all game.
He looked really poor the whole tournament... I can't understand why he tried to do semi tricks all the time when passed to him, just receive the ball in a regular fashion when you're not in form?
Koeman should have swapped him for Malen or Zirkzee after France, keeping Weghorst as the super-sub. Gakpo was well in form on the left, and on the right he could have played Bergwijn or Frimpong, or worst case swap Malen back there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Netherlands midfield was completely useless in the first half, they weren't even trying to close down space. We didn't even change our general strategy following the Switzerland game, Netherlands just played into it like idiots.
Sorry can you explain that again please? You don't think England played a different game from the Swiss contest?
Both teams were terrible actually, used 5 players to play the ball on the first line + goalkeeper.
Tbf, same can be said about France. And even Spain in the second half of semi.
@@mishynaofficial tell us you only watch football during tournaments without telling us
Not closing down space is a pattern throughout the 😊Euros.
No De Jong, no party
That Mainoo Apology 🤣🤣🤝🏿
Smth worth mentioning is the loss of depay. When Netherlands were in possession, depay would drop into midfield providing an extra man in midfield and also creating space in behind for malen and gakpo. This actually lead to the first goal if u play it back. But after depays injury koeman subbed on veerman, but I thought it should've been zirkzee cuz he can play that role pretty well and it wouldn't disruption Netherlands (imo) clever attacking play. They may have scored a goal or 2 imo.
Agree...though they got the ball out to the flanks better,it lacked cutting edge..I have said that Xavi should have pushed higher up to support Gakpo Zirkzee is an interesting choice.., i disagree about Depay, he was awful, the goal came from a higher press, the Dutch forwards simply were not dropping into midfield to counter Rice and Mainoo leaving them free to overun their midfield in the first half..
Watkins and Palmer are both really quick-thinking players.
Let’s just be honest…. This match was to decide who will be beaten by Spain. 😢
😅😂
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Probably but… no one would watch football if it was always a done deal.
Spain has like 1 good player and they didn’t easily win against France the worse team up till this point so wouldn’t be so sure
Agreed. Spain has won all games, even with Germany. They wont leave space to England.
A commonality in this was depay just chilling most of the first half, even when the person marking him went to help with the attack...
Fantastic video
Can you please analyze Uruguay vs Columbia? Kinda curious on how score stays the same and if there's any difference in strategies compared to their previous games respectively
It was such a grit and grind game, Colombia had so many chances at the end to finish it but couldn't score 💩
The problem is for all our industry and dominance in the 1st half we could have very easily gone in 1-0 down at half time. Kane needs to sit the final out
Kane out, absolutely not.
Only in the 1st half the English were dominating because the Dutch didn't stick to their task and stood tactically not correct in the field. In the 2nd half the Dutch players stood a lot better and all the sudden the English didn't dominate anymore. Just the Dutch biggest problem during the entire tournament is Koeman who kept his best players on the bench. Too much faith in the "establishment". He should also have kept Malen in the field and have played with Brobbey instead of Weghorst because now the Dutch lacked speed on the midfield while Weghorst despite playing well was ineffective as he mostly stood in midfield. I am sure the Dutch were able to beat England last night when Watkins didn't made that splendid goal in the last minute. I am sure they would have done with the right players who were all available but never given time to play.... When England play like in the first half they will have a chance against Spain since they have difficulties playing under pressure, but no team can play like this for 90min, so i am afraid England will be facing what the Dutch have suffered from since 1974....(except for '88) ...the never winning a final syndrome.
Great analysis. I so wish the BBC pundits could explain the tactics like this.
To be fair they have to cater to a very varied audience when it comes to football interest or understanding. Alot of people will tune in who only watch England games at tournaments and don't really follow football
True. Some pundits were players before but talk like they run a pie shop poorly
@@jamesduffy7549 It's also that they're just not capable. They're more like a group of blokes in a pub than able explain anything remotely technical in a succinct and articulate manner. Can you seriously imagine someone like Alan Shearer doing this? 😂
@@jamesduffy7549there's nothing non-comprehensible to casuals. It's the other way around imo: excellent explanations make it easier to understand to anyone
@@beyond_software it's not that it's comprehensible or not. They just don't care. Tbh, a lot of non casual actual football supporters don't want to get into it this much
It's interesting that Spain has not played against a back 5 yet in this tournament. Most of Nico's and Yamal's success on the flanks came from effectively stretching the defensive line of a back 4.
This being said, I am not so dismissive about England's chances in the final
You think a back 5 could cause issues for them?
Georgia??
Is Georgia a joke to you?
@@gabrielalohan728 Yes
I don't know brother, that 4-1 against Georgia tells a different story
That 2nd goal. Mainoo block / intercept, Palmer gets it and Watkins goal one for ages.
Be happy with that fine lastminute goal......sunday night the party is over.....
@@peterkelder1451 Dunno. As we made it so swiss could not score and they were a goal scoring menace. Football can go either way. Look at FA cup final Man u won against all odds.
I don't much time to watch football these days (timezone means most games are between 1am-7am for me) and with many of the games behind subscriptions I haven't watched football in a long time.
Around 2015-2018 when I did regularly watch football, this would never have been called a penalty. Both players are going for the ball - the attacker has the right to follow through and the defender has the right to try block it. Collision is an expected part of the game and if it was the defender volleying that, it would never have been a foul. Plus, if Kane was as injured as all his rolling around suggested, he wouldn't have been able to walk/run normally and take the penalty.
Didn't you see Mainoo vs Brazil? Very good with Rice
Garet finally found his best formation. Remind me again how many matches he's needed to achieve this? He certainly arrived here without a clue.
And somehow still never lost a match at the Euros.
@@bonglesnodkins329his runs (not only in this tournament) are the easiest England has had in its history...and he still managed to be booed by fans in 2 games even without losing. With this kind of approach, you are wasting talent and disrespecting the sport even winning the whole thing (which is imo more difficult than winning maxing out players and excitement), and you are seen as a failure if you don't win, even if you lost just the final game
Great fair analysis as always.💯 Thinking 3-1 win for Spain in the Final 🇪🇦🏆 🏴 I just think they have more goals in them and might be just too much to handle for England in the first half, so maybe 2-0 Spain before the 60 minute mark...
Netherlands shouldve swapped Depay with Zirkzee who couldve solved their issues in the first half
Before this match a late challenge is a foul. After this match it's a robbery to award a foul. More reason why I'm supporting the villains of football. Cam on Engerland 🏴
Being late is not an offence d*mb*ss.
Exactly, when a striker does that to a defender's clearance he gets booked every time.
@@introaether937 just make up random things to justice lame stuff. well done
I am not English, but it seems to me that if they would have a coach like Pep Guardiola, they would be a serious contender to become World Champion. I think it is almost a disgrace to play so defensive if you have so much quality in your team.
Kane constantly dropping deep pulled De Vrij out of position many times as well. Foden and Belingham could've used those spaces created.
England was fucking lucky to fall into the sweet right part of the bracket. Lucky you. But, now Spain will send you home as losers. 😂😂😂 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
It's hard to do so if they have to act as double 8 as well as attacking the space like wingers, usually klopp's liverpool pulled those tactics but they played with the 2 wingers upfront in between the wingback and center back and the formation almost resembled a looped 2-2-4-2, with 2 center backs, 2 wingbacks, bobby as false 9 and the 3 midfielders occupying the pockets in a diamond.
The thing is there's many more things teams can do when playing with a box midfield, than just neglecting the wings like england did after being manmarked by netherlands, even emery plays 2-2-4(box)-2.
It's laudable that the english federation had assigned the tean manager work for a borderliner person.
Very inclusive initiative.
Re the pen. Just because the striker gets a shot away, does the defender get a free hit on the attacker?
In this case it is not the defender getting a hit on the attacker though. Dumfries went for the ball and Kane followed through on his attack so they hit each other. True that dumfries somewhat had his studs forward but he hit him with the side of his foot. Could have gone either way. However , there was a clear handball by Saka seconds before the foul. No discussion is even possible about that. Just another round of shitty refereeing
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Kane's follow through meant he kicked the studs of a player attempting to block the shot. Dumfries foot wasn't even travelling in Kane's direction. Joke of a penalty.
With that said, maybe it's about time England benefited for poor refereeing...
That's Dumfries' karma after he dived against Romania.
It's really just a case of written law vs intent at that moment. Dumfries made a potentially dangerous challenge at that height but you could see he aimed for the ball. It's not his mistake that Kane hit the shot a bit earlier. I feel this just discourages defenders from being proactive, and can be argued as a result of the English media bringing up the referee's previous match fixing ties
By the rules it was a penalty, if we are going by what the rules should be then a sliver of Saka's shoulder should not have made him offside for the disallowed goal.
england may close down the center and leave the flank to spain. I think southgate would use 3-5-2 formation, with kane and watkin up front. Their defensive will be 5-4-1 with kane drop deep.
Are you mad!? Southgate will employ the same team. Maybe Shaw will replace Trippier, but even that's unlikely.
playing a team that refuses to move helped
Felt like Netherlands was never attacking with enough players, while England couldn't figure out how to break through Netherlands defense but at least they kept possession. So the game was quite slow but not bad
Southgate should have reacted better and quicker to the change that Koeman made, which shut England down second half. Again he waited until the last 10 to make the subs when he should have done it earlier.
He's too cautious
When Brobbey and Zirkzee entered the game I tought I was watching Disney's Lord of The Rings not football game.
I wanted shaw to start the full game against netherlands because of his performance against switzaland
Mainoo is the Real Deal. We are witnessing the birth of a Legend.
Helps when you have 12 players on the pitch too.
if they beat spain that would be crazy...prob not tho they are doing ok but not on spain level
No reason to be complacent as Spanish. This England team deserves the very best version of any opponent.
So I’m a VERY casual watcher of football and tend to only watch intentionals these days so correct me if I chat shit here, but I can’t help but feel like the way Kane keeps dropping super deep is choking us out offensively as it limits our outlets. Like he’s meant to be up top but when he loses confidence in the team he drops further and further back meaning we have to rely on our wings more, completely eliminating a third of the pitch as an option of play, it’s why I’ve loved seeing Watkins come on for the team as even before NED he was creating a lot of attacking pressure with runs. Am I wrong for thinking this or?
Koeman < Southgate 😂😂😂
He used to play for Barcelona
🙅♀🤦♀
Incredibly, I still think Koeman is second last, leaving Gareth the crown. Southgate has overall a better roster though
My own view is that the biggest stroke of good fortune that went England's way was Denmark not beating us when they had the chance too...This was massively important in terms of draw placement...By not losing a game when they deserved nothing from it inc the draw that they got...it was the Danes who blew a chance right there to advance in a good part of the draw...
In what way was that good fortune? England prevented Denmark from scoring further goals.
@@bonglesnodkins329 They did not!...The Danes missed excellent chances to out that game to bed in the last stages of the second half...
4:39 the coach was really strict. Some England player get yellow cards by just touching the players not even a push but a simple touch
Because of Zwayer
bazinga!
Discussion for kanes foul in the penalty area?
Dumfries has his studs up with is reckless was a pen after seeing the replay
A late challenge is a foul
Hahaha... So in your world only arriving simultaneously is not a foul because being late is a foul.
TOTALLY DELUSIONAL.
@@stnbch3025 calm down, man. OP is responding to the video where he said he doesn't think it was a penalty because Kane had already taken the shot before the studs hit him.
OP is saying, "a late challenge is (_also_) a foul"
@@stnbch3025 HAHAHAH! DELUSIONAL! KEEP CRYING!
86 - nobody defended us against bad refereeing after maradonna
93 - nobody defended us about bad refereeing after the koeman foul
98/04 - nobody defended us after bad refereeing on sol campbell
06/10 - nobody defended us after bad refereeing on frank lampard
22 - nobody defended us after had refereeing on cheatalini fouling saka
So anyone complaining about ONE DECISION that went our way can swivel on it.
Easy to go gangster on a Dutch team at its lowest ebb, in its first semi-final appearance since 2014. Spain is another matter eh.
Harry Kane is a great player but the only times England's attacking line has looked dangerous and really upset opposition defences has been when Ivan Toni or Watkins has come on and actually offered the run in behind and caused opposition defences to sit deeper and England to play the game in the opposition half instead of on the edge of our own 18yd line!
Also it was not penalty because it was handboll on a english player (Saka?) just before leading up to the situation.
Referee man of the match
For sure!
2 minutes left on the clock?? it was the 91st minute, and there were 5 minutes added on
Nothing to do with tactics the players had good fitness for this game simple
"By that time Kane had already kicked the ball"
Not relevant. A common misunderstanding. It's no different from a contact foul anywhere on the pitch. We don't say, "Well, he'd already passed the ball by the time the contact was made, so no foul". The referee can choose to play advantage, or to call the foul. In this case, there was no advantage (no goal resulted), so the ref (or more correctly the VAR team and THEN the ref) called the foul.
you clowns do know the ball came from Saka....his hand.....
But hey, who cares rigtht
Final's score :
England -2 , 1 - France
It was a penalty all day. Late tackle with studs up, nowhere near the ball
Saka's previous handball has left the chat with Lukaku's disallowed goal
I don't think there was some great master plan it was mostly players like Foden especially, ignoring Southgate and playing to his comfort. Bellingham is still utilized poorly, he's probably their best at controlling the tempo but he's given shackles..hes a better tackler than Rice and really great with long passes. Rice would be better utilized further forward
Bellingham just like Foden is an individualistic combination player. He's nowhere near a strategic passer, he in fact got carried by Kroos all season long.
@@stnbch3025 are you saying Rice is their best playmaker and Bellingham is being utilized exactly how he should?
@@stnbch3025 let's see how Real Madrid will perform without two veterans in the midfield.
@@WilliamKgasi-mm9en Madrid rarely performs two seasons in a row well enough to win the league. The fact is their squad is increasingly all ego little modesty.
@@Wilcoranking I'm saying: Stop overrating England!!! The culture is pure individualistic flattery with no playmaking competence. No one should be surprised about how shite England their possession game is, it's who they are.
They gave a similar pen in the first game for Germany against Scotland.
So happy to see England using the 3-box-3 formation. Low key genius to be using wingbacks instead of wingers (albeit, very aggressively). This hybrid formation actually deserves more praise.
It would be so ironic for England to play their best game in this tournament and be knocked out by Netherlands. But something finally clicked ;)
Irony is part of football..
Was it a pen?
Let's be honest - anywhere else on the pitch that's a foul and a yellow card.
I've rarely seen one of these given in the box , so yes, it was a surprise it was given, but they should be.
Put gordon on LM instead of tripper
All these analysis seem to rely on players not being able to go one-on-one with the defender. Twenty minutes is spent passing the ball from left to right, right to left, left to right, back to the goal keeper rinse and repeat.
If one attacking player, runs at the defender and gets passed them, it opens up the entire defence. Although Kane has no dribbling skills and is slow, Bellingham, Saka, Foden and Palmer when he is playing have ball skills and Walker's speed should see him attack down the wing.
The second half England had possession but in their own half, aimless side to side passing the Netherland defence could have been reading a book it was unthreatening. Triangle passes can cut through a defence but there just seems a total reluctance to take people on.
The Netherlands were just not that good, and yet second-half England made them look better than they were.
Don't think it was a penalty too. Sane reasons
It is technically a penalty but if the damage is minimal what it was in this case then they don’t need to give it. To be fair some of the England players got yellow by just touching the players. This coach was really strict
The penalty was 100% correct.
There's no logical reasoning that supports the idea of thrusting your leg forwards studs-up to stop a ball. Normally to block a shot you'd make yourself as wide as possible, not do a flying kick at the striker!
Once you see it, it cannot be unseen: The defender very clearly was aiming at Kane, not the ball.
At best it was a reckless moment of poor judgement; But more realistically it was a moment of anger and panic.
Congratulations to the referee, it was a tricky one but he made the correct call. It was a penalty, without a doubt.
One second before Kane an Dumfries' feet touched Saka had handball fault.....thats what happened and the VAR refused to look at....shame!
4 3 England chaos win game of tournament because Spain won't sit in low block
3:32 You doubted Mainoo?🤨. Wild, the kid is incredibly talented. Very clear to see. He'll be one of the best midfielders of his generation
if he does well, i think he can be the next n'golo kante
He has very few attributes similar to Kante and a quite a few with some elite number 8s imo@@aep5001
the english tactic made no sense at all, they had both bellingham kane and foden up front when none of them look to threaten the box, he had saka and trippier hold the width like wing back and it was soooo dumb, they were playing on their weaker foot so they couldnt make any dangerous cross from the byline, and saka is used to invert and move into the pocket where foden was the entire time. Somehow kyle walker was a beast and both overlapped saka while playing as a CB which is incredibly risky, and he managed to stop threats coming from his side, what a beast. Also I'm not sure rice and mainoo make a good double pivot, I'm not sure they have the passing range and skills to break the opposition's defense, although this might be wrong because even if they had a good passing range, they still had no options up top to be on the end of through balls.
Whatever it is you are saying about Southgate's tactics, it worked didn't it? Also, people saying that they used a 3421 are either not paying attention or not describing the full picture. While they're calling it a 3421 on paper (and out of possession) it's actually a 4231 in possession.
That's why youre seeing Walker overlap "as a CB". He's actually overlapping because, in practice, he is the RB.
Not a penalty, that slo-mo video replay provided by the VAR to the Ref was highly deceptive, as with any other VAR replay reviews.
Negative little kids saying “this match was to decide the team Spain win against” what? You act as if Spain are a god squad with 0 flaws in the team England have way better squad depth and can utilise that not to mention the subs England have compared to Spain
in short: England was exquisitely falling every milisecond and the ref couldn’t look through it 😂 dutch was shit but it was boring to watch when half of the game was put on halt because of English players on the ground every second
that was not a penalty at all its so bad
English or Spanish
Why was that a penalty!!??
Foden in the first half was on fire. He’s been getting so much disrespect
has he?
I feel like Mainoo was just as good as foden if not even better and the neglish commentators said nothing about his performance.
foden is 8 years older than him and you just wouldn't know it.
Mainoo deserves more praise than anyone on that team, even more than Saka (and I'm an arsenal fan)
Spot on about the Man Utd hype
Clearly not.
Dude what u mean man utd hype. It your job to analyse players and matches right? so watch his matches and there you can see yourself if he is class or not.
The luck of the Irish? ☘️How about the luck of the English this Euros 😂⚽🏴
Spain -ENG 12-0. :D
Biased ref not England.
england was not better the referee fucked it up!
Holland?
Time to renew the Dutch national team. Apart from Schouten and Gakpo, they should all be replaced. Even van Dijk is useless these days. He only knows how to pass the ball sideways or backwards.And how on earth can you win, if your star player is a total disaster and only interested in his looks and image. There are a lot of great young players in the Netherlands, you just have to find them and give them a chance.
Because the ref match fixed
quite a simple answer really.
It really doesn’t matter because we know Spain are destined to take the crown
Wouldn’t be surprised if England still manages to take it to penalties tho
See you in the final
Saka hand ball
"Much better?"
What
Undeniably much better to everyone who watched AND isn’t massively biased…
@@CHuzz7777 that's funny af
@@EdwardMDL 🍋
@@CHuzz7777 🟠
ohh dear ...yiu just proves very off it calling the kobbie praise united hype. you must be a Liverpool fan. yiu probably then do have an unbiased research of football... Kobbie has been amn of the match against Liverpool and City in high stake finals.. to beat a midfield with Rodri is no simple job more over at 19. Liverpool has never developed a player like this in 20yrs not even arsenal can claim that too
Bye bye lol
England 1 Spain 1. England 7-6 on pens.
Football finally goes “home”, to ENGLAND 🎉
We'll will win anyway
Spain are human too...they're not invincible...
'Man United hype' - there's no such thing. Manchester United fans know what they're talking about.
you said with the penalty, Kane's 'chance had already gone' - i disagree. Dumfries kicking him meant Kane couldn't completely follow through with his shot, which could have affected the power and direction of the shot. Basically, you're not English so you're biased.
Bro is English tho.
Basically you're making up stuff that never happened. It's truly pathetic how you are qualified to become a modern ref.
it should all be irrelevant because Saka made hands just before the ball got to Kane. It should have never been a penalty.
@@jantje.96 If you have studs up and you make contact, after the other player has touched ball it foul. Auto yellow for studs up. If you ever been studded you know it hurts, why it a foul now days.
Spain 7-1 England
Plenty of time to turn it around in the second half...7-8 fulltime!
It’s coming home 🏴
@@seandunderdale jokes on you
@@mishynaofficial good one
@@mishynaofficialyou stupid fool, Spain will lose to England!
England going to win, guaranteed!
You dont know anything
Spain to win
Spain 4-0 i want justice to be served
Prepare to be heartbroken, guaranteed!
Take Kane off for England to win
We'll win
VAN DYKE "that's not a Penalty" ; REFEREE '' It's not me, it'S the VAR'' ;-- VAR ''Very Arrogant Referee''
wtf
It was literally VAR’s decision.
This is not it. Didn't play out well.
Spain eliminated Germany, and France and also defeated defending champions Italy and someone somewhere thinks England stands a chance against them. Sorry to say but England will lose to Spain.
England also beat Italy this time too
Analysing a fixed match like it was real 😂😂😂😂😂
Wahhhh 😢
@@JamalBradley-yd7sm all pro sports are fixed.
@@papalegba6796 what evidence are you basing that on?
Absolutely a penalty. It was a high boot with studs showing. The defender was not just blocking the shot - he knew Kane would be forced to kick his foot with the follow through. We've all been there. He knew exactly what he was doing. Had he moved his foot back a few inches it would be ok but he put his foot in a dangerous position causing dangerous play. It would have been a free kick anywhere else on the pitch so it must be here too.
No reason to be complacent as Spanish. This England team deserves the very best version of any opponent.