Inside Finland’s female-led government - BBC News
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Finland is led by a coalition of five female party leaders, and is home to the world’s youngest woman prime minister, Sanna Marin.
We meet them ahead of the launch of an ambitious new equality plan, and hear claims that more needs to be done to truly represent the Finnish population.
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Finland: "We have the first all-female, and also the youngest government in the world!"
BBC: "It's not black enough."
Even considering that black population in Finland is very small
Completely agree with facts and common sense
@@ira1420 not even 1%
@@ira1420 And yet they are already a huge problem for Finland
You should always strive for better 🤷♂️
Lol Finland is a white majority country so duh your less likely to find Minorities in positions of power and Prestige .... the hell
That is the weak point of democracy always majority vote won and minorities only look at the face of the other
"white majority country" Yes we are, but there are also other minorities in the world than racial. Sure, we can not solve all the problems in the world, but we do our best, I think that´s enough. Why don´t you deal the rest? ; )
Certainly
Unfortunately it is also that those who are "minorities" in positions of power are also viewed with more intrest. For better or worse.
For them it does not help that if they screw up. One example is Hussein al-Taee. Refugee from Irag that has setted in Finland and was elected as MP for SDP (the same party as Prime minister Marin).
Last year he was involved in a scandal where he slanderd homosexcuals, Jews, Sunni Muslims, Somalians and wished for Hosni Mubarak to return to power. A screenshot of these textes was taken and leaked to the public. He later admited that those screenshots were correct.
@@Omoplataha Also Husu Hussein has staged several hate crimes and got caught like 5 times... still gets no punishment.
According to Wikipedia the percentage of the population that is of African decent is 0.9% and if they follow the overall age distribution then approximately 70% of them are over 18 and could potentially be eligible to become an MPs which would mean 1.4 MPs from the 200 member parliament. So the fact that there is one is in fact fairly representative. This kind of sensationalism, which is not based on fact, is damaging as it undermines the real cases of racism.
Very well said. Dont know what is the agenda of the black women themselves in this video. Are they running to become MP's? What is the point? In Finnish parliament there are other nationalities, Arabs for example.
YOU TELL EM’!
What about arabs and asians?
And Finland is The most racist country in The world acording to google
@@lattu4968 moro lassi, we have the highest incidence of racist violence per capita towards black people, in the whole of the European Union, according to the EU report of 2018. which is telling something, considering the report included the Baltics, too. ( Being Black in the EU/Second European Union Minorities and Discrimination Survey (1.46 MB) ). but also blacks trust police the most and report to police the most in Finland in the whole of EU, so, in here, it is not the fault of the highly educated police. it is the fault of every-day man.
8:25 The reporter clearly tried to lure Sanna Marin there. The gender of politicans doesn't matter. What matters is what is done to the matter. That is real gender equality, praising women is not.
What comes to responding to the covid-19, in Finland ALL parties in the parliament worked TOGETHER to create the exception laws to tackle coronavirus. It was teamwork, not only these 5 politicans telling others what to do.
Suomen menestys koronaviruksessa johtuu siitä että harvaan asuttu ja että suomalaiset on epäsosiaalisia
Typical BBC hit job!
I can tell these women don't give straight answers anymore. All they do is party when we have very big problems.
"White, educated females is not very representative"
Well, in a predominantly white population, 3 white females and 2 white men would probably be as representative as it gets.
Put any minority group in and they are vastly over represented. According to Wikipedia, the largest minority group (excluding Russian, Estonian, etc, who are all white, northern European) in 2020 was Arabic with 0.6%. 1 out of 5 is 20%, hence, one Arab person in this 5 people group would mean 33 times over representation. And what about other minority groups such as Somali (0.4%), then? Statistically, you would need to fill more then 200 seats in order to have a single person of such a minority in the parliament (assuming completely equal opportunities and equal performance of all ethnic groups). So yes, if you see some single black or Arab or Asian person in a huge crowd of white people, that is most likely a pretty accurate representation of the population. Surely, there should be no barriers holding such people back. However, if suddenly some minority groups are over represented in the government, I would suspect these people have not been selected for their competence but just to have more colour in the group of people leading the country. You can do that, but don't call it equality then, because it is simply not.
Educated... well. I suppose you don't want an uneducated person as your prime minister.
people in the Western civilization are delusional. This is the social justice delusion. They have a guilt trip which is the inverse of the supremacy delusion, and when you look at it it's the same thing. It's not enough to be equal. No, now the country has to be led by females exclusively. By doing this they are committing the same mistake of putting up a men-exclusive leading coalition. It's so stupid and as an interlocutor in this interview said, a token, nothing real. Meritocracy goddamn it! And Finland will soon feel the backlash of letting inexperienced leaders lead the country.
And they are uncomfortable for being white educated females. To them, the pinnacle of social justice would be for a minority (preferrably as dark as possibly), mentally disabled, transgender woman-platypus to be in charge. That would be so awesome but it's not possible at the moment because Finland has to do more about equality. Gimme a break. Does it even occur to, say, Congolese or Afghani people to put white men and females in charge? Fucken no
What about gender equality? Finland's conscription (military slavery) for men only is sexist discrimination against men.
Don’t forget, for leftists, facts are an inconvenient distraction from the agenda.
@Guyver Francis men dont have voice in finland🤣
Fairly good report however the argument that in a country where the population is over 95% white to say that the government doesn't represent people of colour and presented as "evidence" for possible racism. I find that problematic, not to say that racism isn't present there but this specific way of presenting this just destroys the whole argument and from a statistical point of view is completely ridiculous.
👏🏼Couldn’t have said it better
People vote representatives into the government based on who they think will be best to deal with the issues in this country. So that is why people don’t vote for a refugee to know what is best for Finns. Because they don’t know. And that has nothing to do with racism.
Why the hell have everyone started using the word white and black anyways, they dont represent the whole group, we Finns are called whites too but we have only few things common with rest of europe
That's true, but in Finland there's actually a rising problem of racism, and I'm not talking about representation. Due to the increasing inmsgiration some far right parties are gaining consensus and xenophobia is on the rise
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Way to go BBC. Make a problem where there is none. Finland should be celebrated not railroaded.
BBC stands for big black c**k.
An all female cabinet is hardly something to be celebrated. Aren't we in an age of ((cough)) "equality"? Or has it gone to the other end of the gender scales?
I dont think a matriarchy should be celebrated, if we do take the sexist and racist view of representation.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw Biologically speaking, a female would be more suitable to lead a country that desires cooperation instead of a strict leadership. Males in general tend to be more dominant and territorial, which makes a country prone to having an aggressive mentality. I could be talking out of my a**, but this is at least how I view things. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
@@nbgoodiscore1303 that aggressive leadership is what beings change, reform, and secondly if we are talking about rashness then female leaders have been more rash with respect to covid, they lockdowned faster without considering the long term consequences
BBC editor. You messed up with the music overlay, come on man
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So, why do people always talk about skin color? Equality is having leaders which understand the best for your country and people. We don't want leaders put in place just because they are women or men or of some specific skin color.
Good point! In the USA a person will be put in a position of power specifically because they are a person of color, not because they are necessarily the most qualified. It's really absurd, especially when you consider the black population is only 13%. Even Hollywood will now almost always cast a black person in a major role in any new movie as to not offend the black minority. Obsession with race and gender is getting to the point of ridiculous!
There is NO equality in Finland cz of military slavery (so called draft) for men only.
Because people are R4cist but in an acceptable fashion, if this was 300 years ago these people would be the reverse...we never get rid of r4cism...it just takes new forms and hides under new identities...often in the guise of doing the right thing
media talk about color, not people.
Only racists focus on skin colour.
3:11
Can't believe we have a minister that thinks its weird for a FINLAND not to have that many black ministers... Countries are diffirent, USA is USA, There was never slave trade going on here!
@@lassih4709 Suomi, Finland
@@logical1677 thanks
@M A Lol what an example of African tolerance. A guy who was vice president and became president for 90 days after death of a black guy. In the following election, he was INELIGIBLE to run because of his ethnicity. Perhaps we should include in the Finnish constitution that your parents have to have been born in the country if you want to run for president? Because that's what they actually have in their constitution in Zambia.
@M A Okay, who voted him in?
Irony lies in the fact that at the same time as the US was practicing slave trade, Finns were sold as slaves to Russia and Middle East by Russian soldiers. The fact that our language is alive and we even have a nation is quite a miracle. It's why I have a problem with the American way of putting all white people under the same label, as it's completely ignorant.
The music is TOO LOUD!
And sucks
make it louder! as those 5 females dont have anything good to say for their own country people
its probably edited by a woman
@@STriderFIN77 learn how to write vitun idari
@@ktammi tai'at ite olla idari,
I HATE IDENTITY POLITICS.
Undeniably, even in 2020, the pursuit of such a policy like this is quite confusing. Especially in Finland, where women were given much more equal treatment as early as the beginning of the 20th century. First President K. J. Ståhlberg would probably turn to his grave if he were to see this, because all the liberal values he has driven in his lifetime seem to take a bit of a bump out of this.
Why?
@@Ritaaw1 Probably because identity politics belong to the 19th century.
@@Ritaaw1 what do you mean why?
So you think power and reward should be based upon your skin color or that 🍑 between your legs, instead of based upon meritocracy?
Yes, good way to get the worst performance
They should do this when selecting athletes, to ensure the best and most dominant never play and the worst and most incapable, do
Your racism, bigotry, and sexism is duly noted
Aren't you late for your Klan rally
I hate Sexism
This wouldn’t pass as journalism in Finland
Factual
Ihan yhtä paskaa se Yle ja hesari suoltaa päivästä toiseen...
Trust me, it would.
Yes it would, but still this was not done well
@@finnvision_ is this equal? Only women leaders.and inferior men. Is this equal?😏
Finland has a model education system in the world. Finland has one of the lowest corruption rates in the world. Some Finnish RUclipsr could do a better job at explaining their own country and their female leaders to the world than this BBC video. I look forward to a Finnish angle on this topic.
Lowest corruption? Their PM and President, are members of the WEF! That "NGO" is hardly advisory and is rife with corruption.
Exactly!!
That's what happens when US and British racial standards, discourse and problems are imposed on other countries where same conditions do not apply. In Finland or in other Central or East European countries there is no history of African slavery and thus the population is mostly ethnicity homogeneous. You cannot really expect for the Finish government to have Black representative because this would not be representative. People of African descend are less than 1% in Finland, so you cannot blame it of not being representative, it is representative considering it's ethnic structure. Arabs are the largest non-European ethnic group with only 0,6% of the population. Those are really small numbers.
The USA karens like to make trouble for everyone with their arrogance.
00:25 "Five white, well educated females... not very representative"
What the hell? Does she want the country run by poorly educated people? Everyone should have access to excellent education, rich or poor, but yeah, education is a pre requisite to leadership :/
If 1.3% of the Finnish population is black, would people still complain if the government was 1.3% black?
Crazy far leftists want at least 60% to be non-white in the country where 99% of people are white. I don't understand what kind of satisfaction they get from these crazy identity politics.
@@JamesJones-kh6tr cuz they are nutjobs
how many Finns are female? Why is conscription (military slavery) for men only?
This is actually quite interesting. The reporters obvioulsy have an agenda that is not really that relevant in Finland. You get an idea that they are not very interested in Finland or Finnish politics, which is understanadable - why would anyone outside the country be interested in what is going on in a faraway country, where the only interesting feature is a female prime minister? Despite people knowing nothing of how Finland or its government are doing, a lot of comments appear, stating that it is either great or pitiful that women form the government; a sure sign of progress or disaster. Finally the extreme Finnish right appears in the scene stating that these women are liars and criminals and all Finns disagree with everything that they do or have ever done or ever will do.
What would have been more relevant is that dispite her age - or probably because of it - Sanna Marin has proven most critics wrong. The gender of a politician is not even an issue in Finland, but the young age and the limited lack of experience that comes with a yong age is. It is difficult to point out anything that an older or more experienced PM would have done better. The age seems to be irrelevant, or even in favor of a younger decision maker.
Issues where most comments miss the target totally are 'feminism' or 'leftist'. Yes, these politicians are likely feminists to a point and Sanna Marin as well as Li Andersson are no doubt leftist. However, this is a coalition government with two conservative parties included; the Swedish People's Party and the Center party. The government program is moderate and does not shake the conservative, free market economy and a Nordic model country in any way.
Still this government of young sort of feminist and non muslims will make the country worse
@@redtigergaming1467 Yeah, it is quite possible that Finland fails to be the happiest country in the world for the fifth time in a row in 2022.
@@redtigergaming1467 where u from ?
There is nothing interesting here and these girls don’t have a clue what they should be doing. Without corona virus this shitty talentless government wouldn’t even exist. They talk about bikinis and handbags etc.
@@torpmorp1324 That was funny! Obviously you only read women's magazines and don't follow politics.
These people are just making up "problems" just for making them. Sad.
I could not agree more.
Finland has so little problems that they have to make new problems.
@@itsjustanapple5452 Do live in Finland?
@@lassih4709 Yes
I agree, as a black man. This media obsession with race really annoys me.
@@sucram1015 This is the main reason why these videos bother me. The American race discussion doesn't really hold any ground in the Finnish society, but yet because of the spread of American media, some people can't seem to see the difference between Finland and the US. They try to fit American issues in our context, and it just doesn't work. Europe hasn't been obsessed with race for a long time, and in Finland it never even was a serious topic. It would be best to leave it that way, but the US media outlets unfortunately affect general discussion these days.
“Not enough black people”
Is there even black people in Finland ???💀
laughing in black Finnish
Hmmm. I think there are few, maybe 1-2% of the population.
Everyone in Finland goes to the same schools, rich, poor, upper, lower class
and THIS is how people with a shared experience can work together and BE together.
why? because it is in everyone's interest that the schools are the best for everyone.
We have a high unemployment of young adults in finland so its not that great
And many MANY underage humans are killing themselfs in here/finland and the school is one reason for doing so.
The best proof of the quality of the education system is that even people who don't have very smart ideas can express their thoughts in multiple languages.
"Everyone in Finland goes to the same schools, rich, poor, upper, lower class
and THIS is how people with a shared experience can work together and BE together.
why? because it is in everyone's interest that the schools are the best for everyone."
Do you actually believe there are many rich kids going to school in Jakomäki or poor kids going to school in Punavuori?
That is true. Im Tuomo abd i live ind finland of course.
0:25 ah yes, obviously a country of roughly 5 million people, who are still mostly inherently Caucasian finns and a minority of Swedes, must be represented by a coalition of one Trans-Thai-woman, a Swahili Muslim woman, 19 year old Native American, Brazilian boxer and the sixth wife of an Iranian plumber with liberal views on gender norms, to be truly diverse and therefore best for the particular country in question.
Finns aren't caucasian. Finns are Finnish and genetically different from the rest of europe.
@@djemih6443 would that make them a minority enough to be a considered a minority or is it all still all about the glorious skin pigmentation and sexuality?
@@docholliday9058 Idk what you mean by that but in Europe Uralic people are a minority. There is roughly over 20 million of us if you count Hungarians. Finns/Baltic Finns, there are like 6.7 million of us. So in europe we are a minority. And what comes to caucasian people, finns are not caucasian because we originate from Ural mountains in Northern Siberia, Asia and not Caucasus.
@@djemih6443 I suppose by "Caucasians" Doc Holliday meant Europeans - not the actual real Caucasians. The Americans still use that funny old-fashioned pseudo-scientific classification.
You on the other hand seem to confuse the linguistics and the genetics - like so many others.
The Finnish language indeed belongs to the Finnic-Ugric and also to the bigger Uralic language groups, which are minority languages compared to the Indo-European languages. And yes - the Finnish LANGUAGE indeed came from the East.
The Finnish PEOPLE however are genetically just as European as any other nationality in Europe. The genetic differencies are marginal.
The modern Finnish people did not come anywhere, but were formed here in Finland from several different groups of people from every direction.
The proto-Finnish speakers have left very little of their genes, despite of the language. The Finns are genetically most closely related to the Estonians and the Swedes.
Despite of the distant language relation the Hungarians are genetically not any closer to the Finns than e.g. the Czechs.
Why a Brazilian lmao
I don't quite understand why this program talks rasismi and gender trans in Finland. These are not major issues. I am an Asian woman working and living in Finland more that 20 years. It is true the majority population is white skin native Finns. What is the problem? Most of my colleagues and friends are these Finns. I have never had any experience of rasismi. Quite opposite, they treat people more equal and more fair than people of my own race in country I originally came from.
There is a lot of racism in Finland, but if people see that you are doing your share, for most people it no longer matters who you are and where you are from.
@@sampohonkala4195 yeah i'd say that really summarises it.
@MrComrade It is preconceived notions against immigrants for sure but there is reasoning behind it. Finnish people are worried about ever increasing national debt. Welfare state is impossible to run if the nation loses it's credit score and goes on an ever increasing debt spiral. Finnish people are looking down on Finnish and foreign people who choose to exploit welfare for easy living while they're busy paying high taxes on everything.
Then comes the tricky part. Integrating in to Finnish society is not easy as an immigrant. It takes real character and stepping outside your comfort zone. The Finnish language is tricky to learn and takes time and effort. It's also not easy to befriend fellow Finns which could help integrate in to the society better, as we are not the most open of people. And most importantly immigrants without transferrable experiences have to work the hardest and most mind-numbing jobs society has to offer, while making slightly more than they would, had they chosen to sit back and collect benefits. Some serious willpower is needed and as a result there are people who don't integrate well at all in to the Finnish society.
For sure there is racism and there is fear of cultural adaptability say between Sharia customs and Finnish customs. But I think most in Finland who fear, they fear the burden unskilled immigration adds on to their collective shoulders.
Perhaps you don’t know many trans people, but they definitely exist and to those people the trans issues are major issues: the forced sterilization just kind of goes against human rights, which is always a major thing, it’s not a medical procedure that will help the person in any way and it’s just kind of dehumanizing. Just because it doesn’t apply to you doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be talked about. And yes there is racism in Finland too, maybe it’s less overt than in your country, maybe your ethnicity doesn’t face as much racism as some others do.
Also I wanna say that I think @Henri had some pretty good and insightful points.
@@sampohonkala4195 Weird that hard working and well integrated immigrants doesnt experience racism in Finland but badly integrated people who live with tax payers money does.
2:29 who translated this 😂
And also there are probably two clips edited together bc that makes no sense
I'm guessing the person who edited it isn't Finnish as they probably work at the BBC! Although they should confer with a Finnish speaker because that isn't professional.
Waa. Point
@@nataliemdesouza that's true, isn't professional and I'm also guessing the person who edited it.
Damn, you hired one bad and lazy translator for the part at 2:26. And it sounds like you cut two separate, unrelated sentences together that make no sense.
Here's what she actually says in the video:
"...so, it is also so that even if you got yourself a very high level of education, it might still be that you don't get employed in your own field of study. So, in Finland people might not be used to - like Bella said earlier, are not used to [Audio and sentence is cut] [...] involvement comes from all these mechanisms which have been put in place in a welfare state, so that everyone would have equal opportunities."
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Drawing some kind of a parallel between the UK and Finland is ridiculous, our countries have massive historical differences. To put it in context, Finland was itself colonized by both Sweden and Russia before gaining independence in 1917.
Finland has never been colonized. Finland was Sweden right from the beginning of the 'modern' kingdom in the mid 1200's. Finland has been occupied by the Russian army three times in the 1700's and 1809, but not colonized by Russia - it kept its autonomy and the Swedish law.
@@sampohonkala4195 What is the difference being under somebody else's rule, and being colonized? It's a fine line. It's true Sweden didn't really exploit its Finnish territory economically, but that's because there was hardly anything to take here - no natural resources Sweden herself didn't have. However, Finnish men were used as cannon fodder in Sweden's wars aiming at European superpower status - this is comparable to being exploited as a slave. What is more, Finland was used as a buffer zone for Sweden against Russia and was often left poorly defended. Maybe this wasn't colonialism in the strict sense, but it was bad enough.
@@sampohonkala4195 Yes it was under a Swedish king and Swedish rule.
The first settlements being on the west coast. Finoswede's are descended from that. And were the landlord's.
The Swedish also colonised northern Russia. That's of where the word Russia derives from( Rus ) Rowing man.
Fins( Suomi) are later arrivals from the Finoeugeric line.
@@smoothsable1239 nope
@@joro5748 For god's sake - can you be more stereotypical and wrong! Two questions: 1) Were there representatives from "Finland" at the Swedish parliament? 2) Were there only wars against Russia, and if not, what was the proportion? If you had any integrity, you would now just leave in shame, as you don't know shit about history, at all.
I think the reasons of current all female leaders in Finland are following:
1. Coincidence. It just happened all these major party leaders are young females at the same times.
2. Women in Finland are financial independent. Most women are working even after married or gave birthes to several children. Women are able to take several years break to raise babies while still keeping jobs. Even not working, any one can get subsidies for taking care babies or for being unemployed.
3. Equal positions as men at family. Many men also take care kids and do house work. Most Finnish women never have the needs or think to please men.
4. Independent personality. Most parents let kids do what they want to do. It helps the kids when they grown up, they know what they are doing.
5. Lots of women became politicians and have key roles at different levels in the government. Because of big base of women politicians, it is not a surprise to see the party leaders are women.
I agree. I don’t think these parties have had many female leaders before, if they have had them at all.
I mean yes, coincidence, but you need to create a fertile ground for "coincidences", "happy little accidents" as passed painter bob ross would say, to happen in the first place.
like 60% of physicians in Finland are women.
"5. Lots of women became politicians" oh. just as many as men? I still remember in grandpas time, and there are still countries and places on the internet, where politics are thought to be solely the arena of men. that women simply have no interest in such things. part of the 4. independent personality, is that girls and women don't get beaten into submission in culture.
"3. Most Finnish women never have the needs or think to please men." that is not their _sole_ occupation of thinking, no, to just coddle boys and men of their family, so the boys will raise to become brats, that hit women when they disagree with him.
though we do have one of the highest rates of domestic violence in Europe. not all men are on board with women having more than they used to and men then turn bratty. but we also have a high report rate, meaning, that domestic violence is not culturally thought to be families inside matter, like in Russia legislation, but a public, prosecutable offense. it is part of "virallisen syytteen alainen rikos", which means, it will always automatically get prosecuted, whether the victim wanted it to go to court, or not.
like it is not in men's sole thinking to please women in any country in existence.
I read from another comment you were an Asian woman working and living in Finland for more than 20 years. does that mean you were originally from an Asian culture, that possibly fawned more about boys and men, putting their needs first? well, you are free to think so, but I am fairly confident, that your female children will be more "assimilated" into Finnish culture.
@@Redmanticore i thought they had a purple profile pic
Thanks for this.
In Finland, women do men's jobs. It is like a feminist state.
Ei torille tällä kertaa
No ei vitussa 🙂
No miks ei
@@late8641 Taisit jättää videon kattomatta
Siellä oli kivaa, oisit tullu!
It would have been more interesting to see what innovative policies they made rather than focus on gender and racism.
Nah. Not how it works. Policies? Don’t matter.
As a Finnish I cringed so hard watching this, this is so bad.
I don't remember the BBC being very keen on the female leadership of Mrs Thatcher.
Thatcher was an evil hag...what is there to be keen on?
@@lillianconstantine6287 No, no, no, you're doing it wrong! We don't assess women on their suitability for the role, we just assess them on their sex! Did you miss the message conveyed in the video?
@Mrs. Umar Wrong again. Just cause your a sexist trying to uphold the patriarchy.
Haha...
Thatcher saved the world. The economic growth across Asian and African is as a direct result of her standing up for free market economics. She was a strong women. They don’t make women like this nomore. Of course like any leader she had failed policies. But she changed the world for the best.
Going back to benbows message thatcher was not a lefty hence she doesn’t count. You got to be a women and agree with the BBC narrative. Be a ethnic women who’s a conservative and you’ll become Hitler.
What is it with Europe’s left demeaning white people all the time. Stop playing identity politics.
"Europe's only indigenous population" Aren't the majority of people in Europe technically indigenous to the country they live in?
Well except for Sweden and Germany.
Also the UK.
@@basilmagnanimous7011 what !?
@@upendo.3570 Everyone originated from Africa, and from there they migrated outwards. Even the native americans didn't originate there, they crossed using the land bridge between asia and alaska...technically if you are born in america you are a native from there...your colonist parents dont really matter.
But Why aren't women conscripted into the finnish army just like finnish men ?
4:04, what...? Europe's 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 indigenous population?
That is true
@Gucci Potter Totta se on
"In Europe, the majority of ethnic groups are indigenous to the region in the sense of having occupied it for numerous centuries or millennia. Present-day indigenous populations as recognized by the UN definition, however, are relatively few, and mainly confined to its north and far east.
Notable indigenous minority populations in Europe which are recognized by the UN include the Finno-Ugric Nenets, Samoyed, and Komi peoples of northern Russia; Circassians of southern Russia and the North Caucasus; Crimean Tatars of Crimea in Ukraine; and Sámi peoples of northern Norway, Sweden, and Finland and northwestern Russia (in an area also referred to as Sápmi).[70]"
it is true, _if_ Russia is not counted in, and _if_ you follow the united nation´s definition.
Their indigenous status does not mean the same as it does for the Native Americans for example. It's more of a cultural title.
...yet women have no obligation to carry out military service and defend the country, unlike in Norway and Sweden. So much for "equality".
@skaiu What a load od BS. Modern armies have a ton of support roles that do not require that much physical strength and can be fulfilled equally well by women. Israel has been conscripting both men and women ever since 1948, and has won every single war it fought in its history. And they had no problem with birth rates, either; actually, Israeli birth rate is twice of that of entitled Finnish women, despite the fact that all young Israeli women have to perform two years of compulsory military service just like their male counterparts. Nor do they have problems with care for elderly or children, in case of war that can be done by men and women aged 40 and over. Prime military age is 18-25, and the overwhelming majority of Western women in that age bracket do not have children nowadays. The rest are all excuses.
@skaiu Why six years? Besides that, nobody has the required skills at the start, training exists precisely for this reason. Israel has had conscription for both sexes since 1948, but Sweden and Norway, which I mentioned in my original comment, introduced it a few years ago (2013 and 2018) and this did not cause any major issue. It's just a matter of actually wanting to do it. Sure, no conscription at all would be the best thing, but as things are now, it remains unlikely.
As a Finn, I can say that the party leaders were chosen to their positions because of their skills, not becuse of their gender. This is the new "normal" of Finland where women and men both can be leaders of major parties, and over-genderizing the matter just gives kind of a sexistic overview of the matter. Still, I feel more proud of our current PM than any other former PM, because she has shown excellent negotiation skills and been a highly effective leader, especially in the battle against Covid-19.
Yeah! The battle against covid. Nothing suspect about that.
Et oo tosissas...?!
@@artoeloranta2810 oon tosissani
@@petraautio3498: 😅😂🤣
Yeah whatever.
Who tf cares if they are women or men or other just give us a working government
A working government / company / public entity / whatever doesn't matter. What matters is that every single race, ethnicity, skin color, religion, height, weight, eye color, hair color, fart smell etc. is included and established in a quota everywhere. That's how we get rid of racism: By profiling everyone based on physical and some mental attributes and establishing a system where everyone's judged by their amount of privilege.
Easy to say right when it's reversed.
Have you heard of reaching for equality?......
@@OzzersOz We live in Western Nations where equality exists, We do not live in Middle Eastern Nations or African Nations where equality is pretty much non existence, An no one who claims to be woke will fight for equality in those Countries but push the narrative in Western Nations where these Nations are some of the most open and progressive nations in the world,.
Certainly you understand why it matters that women are represented in politics and decision making.
This was the most cringeworthy thing I have watched for a long time... and yep, I'm Fnnish
You dont have to be Finnish to hate this video. Its blatantly racist towards white people. There is an agenda to displace the indigenous European people and BBC is on board with that.
Hi
@@theycontroltheleftandtheri3705 you can’t be racist towards whites, can’t oppress the oppressor
@@udhav423 what? you can't be racist towards white people? that's the dumbest thing i've heard in a while
@@udhav423 1. Racism means you have a race based prejudice and treat people negatively based on their race, which is what you are doing now when you try and redefine the meaning of the word racist to exclude people of European descent. 2. You are obviously not oppressed by white people and we are not oppressing you, but since you believe that to be the case, explain why, lets have a laugh at the answers your pea-brain comes up with:
Most people in Finland are white so most people in the government are white too
The super majoritynof Finland and Scandinavia and Europe is white..m for heaven sake even as a person of mixed heritage (European and Latin American) this liberal agenda pisses me off. It only target (or mostly targets) western countries....
Yep. She is shame for Finland and im finnish
Funfact:
Mandatory conscription is only for men.
In case if you wonder whether its about the equality
Ever heard of civil service?
@@slik_ Yes, its the second option to military and women dont need to do it.
@@scpftestarchives8826 so? What's your point?
@@slik_ forced labour that is based on gender. Only men have to go to the military or civil service. Does not sound very much like equality now does it?
@@bruhmcmoment196 what a pity my country has only voluntary military service, no matter the gender
A country for everyone? Its a country of Finns ffs and there's nothing wrong with that
They are an example for everyone.
Inclusivity over division.
So yes a country for everyone and not the few.
And everyone can be a Finn if they’re willing to go through the process for citizenship
@Rasmus Vohlakari and you are not stupid, just not smart.
@Rasmus Vohlakari doesn’t change the fact your comment was stupid
@Rasmus Vohlakari and there we have the stupidity. So if you can’t prove your entire family is finnish, you’re not a fin? They used that logic here in Germany once. When was that again? 🤔
the population make-up, history, ... the nature of the US is totally different from a country like Finland. because it feels like some of these countries are taking their script for diversity discussion directly from the US without considering the many many differences.
This. We should not copy US.
@@allualex2606 especially right now. The USA is not the same :(
But Finland - climate conscious/environment, it is a very clean & beautiful country,
healthy, high life expectancy (happiest country on Earth!)
diversity/unbiased/unracist people,
fair courts/judges/police (no insane crime rate)
education system is superb - very admirable guidance principles
economic strength, no corrupt greedy permanent politicians (yearly rotations)
What a sh*t quality news report. I guess the reporter had a certain viewpoint in her mind that she tried to represent. We have as much diversity in our parliament as the country itself has. Our country didn’t take part in colonialism hundreds of years ago and we have been independent only for 103 years. Before that we were under Russian and Swedish rule. The majority of our population has a light skin colour (since we are located up in the north) and are Finns by ethnicity (a coincidence that happened after ice age when our ethnic group started living here and the luck that we didn’t end up under Soviet rule after the 2nd World War). By religion the majority are Christians, because the Swedes forced us to leave our own religion 900 years ago. That is our background and history.
In our parliament there are still people from different ethnic, language and gender groups. Minorities like Swedish speaking Finns (5%) are well represented. Also there are and has been people of colour, Sami people, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, gay and lesbian...
Well there are no Romani people in our parliament and that we should work on, since they have lived in our country for centuries. I think this is even more important than having more people of immigrant background or just dark skin in our parliament. Also there should be at least one Sami repsesentative from north.
Also our election system is proportional representation and this is why not all have the luck to become a MP. The high number of the votes you’ve got doesn’t mean much.
If your leaders were actually good, you wouldn't need people from all minorities in the government to represent and protect those minorities.
Interesting that you leave out the oldest female leader in the coalition from the thumbnail to promote this video. Explain yourself BBC
Shivani Singh that's true 👍
I'd expect the BBC to at least get the audio-mix right, that music is far too loud
We just need to get to a point as a species where the best people for the job, get the job. There shouldn't be barriers based on gender or race, it seems Finland is moving in the right direction.
Yes the best people for the job. Not just b they are female
Pho-king soup that's true, there shouldn't be berries based on gender or race, thou I'm from Phoenix Arizona.
Especially now in figure skating with fifty something man dressed as a woman…😂
Finland seems like a very peaceful country
It's running to NATO with cap in hand now though :)
Can’t blame them tho, they have a lunatic In putin menacing Europe. Finland wants protection
@@StevenSmith-mk5fg So... What's wrong? Being peaceful doesn't mean that a country is non-aligned (like Switzerland.)
@@StevenSmith-mk5fg well with madman next door keep sending threats to them, who can blame them?
and very sexist country having military slavery (conscription) for men only
I just love
To hate this video.
So much wrong in one video.
Coming from a Finnish person.
Also love the "Finnish-English", which is a language on it's own.
Tell me more about this, to me this was very accurate. You should remember, the people on the video are telling their personal opinions.
They might be the prettiest government in the world, but they could also be ones to lead Finland to ruins.
1/2 the population are men, not very diverse
Well it seems there simply aren't any men qualified, maybe they need to up their game lol
More than half of people in parliament are men and 8 of 19 ministers are men.
It's funny that all throughout the history most high positions have not included women at all. Now that the roles are reversed, the men start crying how it isn't representative. Welcome to the reality for most of the women on the earth.
(In a perfect world, we all would have representation, but that is not reality at the moment. Striving for it is noble.)
This is the first time the government has so many female leaders. First time, so now you're afraid there's going to be only female leaders or what? Typical conservatives..
They are not "white" they are Finnish.
Percentually Finland has got most blond hair and blue eyes in the world.
@@blackcoffeebeans6100 While that is true "white" is just a political term at this point and as such is a changing concept. Having white skin doesn't automatically make you "white". As far as I understand it when people talk about white people they mainly refer to American whites/colonial europeans and you could even make the argument that historically finns were not considered "white" by the English standards because their ancestry comes from the urals and they were stereotyped as "mongols" and such. In reality however finns are some of the whitest people in the world but because of the historical context I would not put them in the same boat with other whites.
@@blackcoffeebeans6100 so what? that doesnt make them white.. Finns are not even indo-european lol they came from Asia.
there are black people with blonde hair and blue eyes are they now white?
@@toppilanjeesus5958 No you are white if your skin is white. And these women are white, get over it.
Yes, they are also Finnish by many definitions. (Although that's more debatable when it comes to Andersson and Henriksson who are Finnish Swedes. A minority which is an integral but distinctive part of the Finnish nation.)
@@toppilanjeesus5958 Europeans came from Asia too... Eurasia. It's more complicated. Indo-European isn't just white. India and Iran...but we know the ancestry was white who came from Russia yes but Uralic doesn't mean not white or Asian.
Indo Uralic and Indo-European Actually come from proto and then same language but the y chromesone of the Finnish men as Indo-European
I find the racism debate a bit silly. Why should race be an important factor in countries where there is no systematic bias towards a particular race? The USA has a dirty history of slave trade. The white guilt comes from that. Many people whose ancestors didn't do horrendous things don't have that guilt in other countries. So people of colour don't mean more to them and it shouldn't too. If everyone is given equal rights with no bias then people should only be chosen on their merit not on the issue of representation. If a country wants it can allocate seats on basis of population distribution. In that case it would still represent the majority more. By the way I am a brown person so I don't have any white supremacy bias to say this.
WTF really cares about the demographics of their government? The average person just wants their government to be capable and accountable
Ditch the music, please.
We are not voting our goverment based on their gender. we are voting cos we agree with their views. its great that we are an example of an equal nation but there is other ways than politics to show it.
I bet they will leave out at least some parts such as:
- Sanna Marin became the prime minister only after Antti Rinne resigned due to a political farce concerning Posti (state owned post service).
- One of the white female ministers (Katri Kulmuni) resigns on accusations of corruption and gets replaced by a white man (Matti Vanhanen).
- Numerous politically biased nominations from Green League on different important government titles.
- Foreign minister abused his power as the Foreign Minister and approved bringing women with ISIS-connections back to Finland (due process was not followed and he is now under criminal investigation).
- Financial plan and state budget based on unrealistic employment development and economical growth.
- Failure on bringing proper means to combat climate change due conflicting interests between Green League and Centre Party.
- No long term plans on CoVid-19.
- CoVid-19 restrictions were only strengthened after the President stated his public opinion (even the there were conflict between the President and Sanna Marin).
- Largely criticized and unpopular "Active model" (described as humiliating and it's dissolution was one of the lefts campaign promises) dissoluted but reimplemented with a different name.
- Downplaying problems caused by multiculturalism and failed integration especially in metropolitan area, no real means to alleviate the problems
- Bringing intersectional feminism as a part of Finnish politics (one could argue American rhetorics do not belong in Finland and intersectionality in itself is a racist ideology)
- Strengthening the status of the swedish language in Finland through including it as an mandatory subject in undergraduates final exams. (Finnish Swedish only account for 5% of the total population, they are also generally much better educated and have higher income than the rest of Finns. They have their roots in Swedish colonialist rule and the suppression of Finnish culture.)
Just to name a few.
Small corrections: Kulmuni was replaced by Saarikko as the leader of the party. Vanhanen got her minister job, nothing else. Second, the foreign minister thing is being handled, he has not yet been convicted or fired and as I'd say it is not certain thay he abused his position.
@@ghosty276 Yes, I was referring to resignal as minister, thanks for making it more accurate. The case with Foreign Minister Pekka Haavisto is true that it is still under investigation, but several sources insist he has overstepped his authority. Still it is fair to say he is innocent until proven guilty. A political scandal nonetheless.
Still we must recognize that morally Haavisto tried to do the right thing: get children out of the isis camp. This has been now carried out legally and generally accepted. Only the manner he tried to accomplish the same result was questionable.
"- No long term plans on CoVid-19." dude there was already a vaccine when you wrote it. covids going to be a nothingburger by spring. it's still a fact that under her Finland had low rates. sure she did not order martial law the first day nobody would, but in fact, she did order martial law, the first time in peacetime. she had guts. for it, there were political cartoons showing her in a dominatrix getup.
the unrealistic models and some of the cabinet members soloing are normal things in every political party. only reform of economy can fix Finland like it has fixed Swedish economy and no party wants to do that, it would cost too much politically, a political suicide. she could not have predicted covid and its impact on economy.
every party does the downplaying immigrant problem bit, including the one-party perussuomalaiset, whose only bit is to be against immigrants. even their time the number of immigrants just increased.
My favourite part of the history of Finland was during the second world war, the Finnish male resistance managed to fight off thousands of communists against all odds.
The Winter War ♥️
yeah and those communists are now letting the enemy just walk in and rape everything
They are like Kuusinen's government.
Not to forget the Finnish women in WW2.
women helped in masses too, ignorant merrican. they were called lotta svärd. By 1944 it included 242,000 volunteers, the largest voluntary auxiliary organisation in the world, while the total population of Finland was less than four million.[4][5]
@@Redmanticore why obsessed with gender??
Ah yes my BLACK Finnish friend that represents 0.0000001% of the population doesn't feel represented enough......
I wonder if BBC also complains about african countries having not enough white, hispanic or asien people in their government??!
Nah the BBC are clearly racist towards white folk buy hey, that's positive discrimination haha
I don't understand how journalism and politics must always be centred around gender and race? If an all man or an all woman government is leading a country, white or black, then more power to them. After all it should be based on merit and qualification, a meritocracy.
The best educational system in the world, a very strong, yet very defensive military.... The race baiting is kinda interesting. If you do the math based on population, their parliament exactly represents their society.
I love Finland, I'm from Canada.
The ” lipstick government” sucks big time. There seems to be no limit to their spending and giving money away anywhere. Of course they expect to get really really well-paid EU jobs for their services in return.
They're not working for Finland, but corporates and so called NGO's.
Whoever put that music...should be fired.
It must be a strange world immersing yourself in identity politics. A career as a gender identity reporter ( narrow outlook there) and saying odd things like you should never stop without realising that’s a very strange statement and potentially very dangerous.
They're all clearly smarter than the reporter thank god.
They do seem like it. Until you start to read about their agendas. For instance, Ohisalo is the minister of interior but is very reluctant to admit the negative impact in crime statistics when it comes to immigration. In Helsinki, we have entire suburbs where a lot of immigrant -communities are causing disturbance. And it only gets worse, the best known example from this year is the EU:s coronavirus -agreement, where countries are either paying or recieving aid for the negative impact the pandemic has had for the economy. Lets just say that the outcome Marin has negotiated for us is a complete joke, basically we are paying 3 billion euros for the package when at the same time Finlands national debt is at 110 billion and will only grow as a result of everything that has happened.
@@MrMaple-iq1sh Lisää poliiseja ja saunoja minkä taakke viiä
Finland has population of 5.5 million and 95% have Finnish citizenship and 5% are foreigns.
Finland has 423 000 Finns with foreign background (7.7%) and half of them are white. 40 years ago Finland had around 40 000 Finns with foreign background (0.8%) and the most of them were white.
In 2015, 3% of new university students were young people with a foreign background. Their share of the population of the same age was 6%. The number of students with a foreign background doubled in ten year (from 2008 to 2018).
The question is "How many non-white candidates would you expect to have today?"
Ps. I'm pround of our little country, but don’t expect too much from us.
Resources:
www.stat.fi/tup/maahanmuutto/maahanmuuttajat-vaestossa/ulkomaalaistaustaiset.html
yle.fi/uutiset/3-11076011
Kind of weird how Sami are considered native but us soumi aren't. That's like saying the Dutch are native but not Germans to lands they have lived in for thousands of years. Soumi (Finns) and Sami are sister groups and speak sister languages like my comparison of Dutch and Deutsche
It’s so refreshing to see attractive modern younger women leading a country. They are breaking barriers in the belief you have to be old frumpy and outdated in order to be a part of government to be taken seriously. Good for them!
They should be transgenders (man with lipsticks, and with woman clothes). It will be more funy!
The audio editing is horrible.
its probably edited by a woman
No doubt Finland the best country in this world. Not because of just gender equality or secularism, they have got a top-quality education system.
Not so good that it was before. Somebody is trying to destroi all good things, they only want change everything.
How do you measure educations quality? I think that the country that has highest employment rate has the Best education system
@@sprinterproductionshd3061 No, since there are many other factors in the employment rates; it isn't exactly something that necessarily correlates with the level of education. Education quality is measured with a variety of metrics, like how well the students have learned in their classes or how their learning environments are structured. Finland has been one of the forerunners in many education fronts for quite some time know; just to name one: they have had pretty consistantly the best school food in the world (well balanced nutrients wise, served warm, free of charge, etc.).
@@RuyVuusen lol my whole point was that those things that you named are irrelevant.
Doesnt really help how Well you learn things that dont help you To find a job.
@@sprinterproductionshd3061 And my whole point was that employment rates don't necessarily correlate with the levels of education, unlike what you implied. You literally said "I think the country that has _highest employment rate_ has _the Best education system"_
“Only all female led government” have you heard of Lithuania?
Yeah, bbc is dumb.
As a man I can confirm this government is more fixed then any other men held governments.
Oh boy, are you going to be in for a huge shock.
She is the symbol of "beauty and brain"
Nope. She's just a sock puppet for unelected super wealthy people.
AND FRENLY.
8:25 damn she wasn't expecting that
To say that a black person would not have the same opportunities that a white person has in Finland is just absurd. The fact that black politicians are a minority in Finland is because black people in general are a minority. Not because we would stop them from becoming politicans.
However it is interesting they think so. One might think a Swedish speaker has no chance in politics, as that is a small minority group, but did not stop Elisabeth Rehn of gaining way over 40% in presidential election - and that was before any woman had been even close. One should just try and see.
@@sampohonkala4195 yeah well if the media tells you 24/7 that the white man is holding you down, you will belive it sooner or later.
The translation's garbage brah.
Oh well, the whole thing is far left carbage, so what's more fitting?
Why the music?
Playing up beat music about all female government but not if it's a all male government it's ironic isn't it 🤣😐
It is always the same. Identitary ideologies....Are they good managing? Men or women is not the most important part, seriously.
@@barsk1 Can you find an European country, which has reacted well compared to Finland? In terms of case numbers at action, the reaction has been quite early. The issue often is that people are not following recommendations.
It's just weird how nearly every country is ran by men, women should be allowed in power too.
@@barsk1 Olen samaa mieltä siitä, että suosituksien noudattamisen puute on ollut täydellinen katastrofi ja on johtanut nykyiseen tilanteeseen. Espoossa on vieläkin tyypillistä, että bussissa alle puolilla on naamasuoja. Kahdella viimeisellä junamatkalla vaunussa on ollut aina joku ilman naamasuojaa, joka yskii jatkuvasti. Väittäisin kuitenkin, että Suomalaiset ovat vastuullisia ainakin verrattuna Amerikkalaisiin: Siellä puolet äänestäjistä ottaisi velvollisuudekseen hakata yllämainittua punaista nappia, jos vastakkaisen puoluuen hallitus on tämän kieltänyt.
@@OzzersOz it's funny, men running the country is not because they allowed, but because they fight and struggle to achieve it. While the fact is women these days allowed running the country because of female part-gender equality and identity political agenda. If you don't give them space you'll be bashed with misogyny thought, toxic masculinity, snowflake etc.
@@vsrr83 is this equal? Only women leaders.and inferior men. Is this equal?😏
You will hate to hear this but the Finns party is likely going to win the municipal election, take that BBC!!!!
The coalition party is more popular now.
As long as the best person gets the job.
I'm a male. Why should males accept this as good? Why should I celebrate that males have been displaced? I don't.
What would your Finnish ancestors say to this rhetoric? They fought and lost so much for their descendants to have this nation and now their descendants are going to throw it all away.
Notice how Asian nations don’t allow other people of color to be apart of their government (or at least have influence). This is because the history of powerful nations have always been built around homogeneity.
You cannot expect people of different cultures and color to blend well when you are so diverse. There is no way you can align the nations agenda to support the masses without negatively affecting one or more groups of people. Now, this in no way means we can’t get along socially or economically but it is a real conundrum to do this without a similar foundation.
Am moving to Finland 🤘🏻
Another piece aiming at further division of the people. Keep at it, let's see where it takes us.
What do you mean by devision?
@@Ritaaw1 no he's right. Diversity these days trying to divide people, not to unite.
Suomi mainittu perkele
Hävettää
@Niklas juu
@Niklas En ois lähteny vaikka ei ois peruttukkaa :D
What's it like to have a young Prime Minister, who is a product of the World Economic Forum?
Party girls....Hope Finland has a higher power watching over them..
It's a bit sexist
How?
@@pinecone27 it's a tongue in cheek joke.
If it was titled all male led government im sure someone would have something to say.
Wut...................
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@@ALO_69 1
Here's a wild idea: focus on hiring or electing whoever is best at the job and stop worrying about irrelevant physical characteristics. BBC's activists think they're making the world a better place but they're really not.
They are trying to sow discontent... making irrelevant arguments corrupting the mind of people to cause division and hate! That is what media does best creating drama and conflict where there is not one.
Li Andersson completely misrepresents sauna culture. Everyone gets naked together in the sauna, no matter the gender, race, sexuality, or class. That was where the saying, "the important decisions get made in the sauna", came from.
if you know about our political history, which I imagine you must be completely ignorant of, indeed our most important decisions were at times made in the sauna. in big companies and in government, at one point, for decades. kekkonen and the Russian president saunaed together. if you were a woman, who did not want to be alone, naked, with nothing but guys, tough luck. you got blackballed out of the career. it was silent discrimination at the time. government and big companies have changed, but even today there was a small buzz about it when in the 2010s in the big only annual finnish startup culture gathering place, they finalized everything in the sauna. a woman that was uncomfortable going to the sauna with 99% just dudes? no chance of funding.
@@Redmanticore Im quite aware of Finnish political history, thank you. If you are trying to claim, or infer, that women getting blackballed having something to do with not going to the sauna, that is quite a reach. It also ignores my initial point that men and women have traditionally been going to the sauna together in Finland. I was brought up with that culture and even now i go to the sauna with many female friends, never had a problem. It would be disingenuous to suggest that women have not pursued certain careers in fear of going to the sauna with men. It is also important to keep in mind that globally these positions haven't been pursued by women as much as men so the sauna is irrelevant.
As foreigner leaving in finland this is the best country in the world. But not perfect.
There are no actual "perfect" countries.
The Internet: We need more diversity and equality!!!
Finland: An all female government!
Internet: PERFECT!!! THIS IS PERFECT EQUALITY!!!
I live here and im embarassed of this..
It really bothers me about this equality stuff. It does not matter who is who is making the decision as long as they have qualification and doing a good job.
Imagine a super conservative religious and liberal sitting on the chair--it would be a chaos! We should pay attention more on Quality over equality.
We didn't vote them in because they are women.
That’s exactly the reason to resist the population replacement: some morons won’t lecture you on quotas!
It is kind a racist they only mentioned that there should be more black people in the government, what about Sámi people, people from middle east, Asia and Russia.
I think females make great politicians, as they are by nature more cautious.
That's the same reason they don't make on average great business people.
Business requires risks that you take in politics.