Gravity is nothing more than a gradient quench of inertial drag. An easy way to model what happens due the alteration of the Vacuum by a natural gravity source is this: a submarine sits idle at some depth in the ocean, not moving. A large sphere of steam is created, and maintained, directly in front of it. The pressure of the medium (water in this case) at the rear accelerates the submarine into the less-dense, ie. rarified, medium - the huge, static steam sphere in front of the boat. Carefully note that energy was required to be added to the medium to create the acceleration. The immense energy and motions of the atoms of the planet alters the Vacuum in the immediate vicinity. The heat source that created the rarification of the medium in front of the boat. The technique to change the magnitude of inertial drag that is experienced by a matter object in the Vacuum has been known for decades. Gravity is a gradient quenching of inertial drag - objects are accelerated into the 'steam bubble' created in the Vacuum by the aggregate energy of Earth's atoms. It is sad we have been lied to by people who live off our taxes for decades. It is tragic. Just because they think an incremental introduction of artificial gravity tech is not possible, does not mean that belief is correct. .
I would love it to hear more of Hal Puthoff thoughts and ideas. Without him being interrupted all the time while he is still trying to precisely articulating new concepts.
Release the whole interview, Jesse. Eric said this is a short cut. You have a responsibility, mate. Hall isn't in his 20s. Getting another interview isn't likely to ever happen. But, again, you have the lithe film. Do it damn it. Please upvote this.
Yes, please, for the love of God. Eric interrupted so much. His ego is insufferable. I feel like this was probably the last and most candid chance to get some of those questions answered and he could not stop himself from constantly interrupting the man and then the damn topic never even resumed.
Eric expressing his aversions to paranormal phenomena while remaining open to the evidence is courageous! Love Hal’s precise response: “It shows the stigma programs were effective.”
@@jason1440 what about "i can remote view and see our conversation in advance so in order to absolutely crush you, ill answer for you with the exact words in your mind, making you a true believer within minutes - but i am young enough so i just try to convince people with russles teapot arguments"
Hal is so knowledgeable, because Hal is in on it all, i.e. Hal has been read into all of the Blackness that surrounds this topic and knows that we have had this underlying technology for a long, long time. That being said, the underlying technology would change everything on the planet, especially transportation and energy. The pigs who run things on this planet surely don't want that.
@@fl46559 No, they want it… Only when they can control and monopolize it all by themselves… enter the “gRaTe ReEsEt” 😂😂 except everybody has awakened to what’s going on…
So good, it's either an awesome psyop or really awesome unprecedented conversations happening in the public sphere. Either way I'm happy to watch the show.
Just discovered Jesse’s channel from the David Grusch interview. Wow! His content keeps me on the edge of my seat. Really enjoying his podcasts! Excellent work. I don’t understand why every person out there isn’t interested in this stuff. It completely makes sense to me that we should all be pondering this stuff from early childhood on, trying to understand who we are and what this reality is all about. Its amazing to be alive! But instead, people watch so called “reality TV shows” which are ANYTHING but realistic. It makes no sense 💔
As humans, we only deal with living, nothing is said EVERY DAY about death. We are going to die, a piano will fall on us or some disease. Do we talk about it every day as we do about living? No. We are huge deniers. Or evaders. We keep it out of our minds for we would become depressed? So, not hard to jump from that to why we don't talk about these strange things happening to, apparently, millions of people. There are videos, photos, witnesses, people talking about it. Nope, not part of the daily conversation. The truth is terrifying.
I wish this shit was 7 hours long, I'm so unbelievably thankful for your work, this is my favorite YT channel by far. It would be great if Eric co-hosted interviews with obscure scientific figures such as Hal, for example Jacques Vallee, or Eric Davis, having Eric Weinstein there would be spectacularly useful. Looking forward to whatever is next, wish this channel all the success in the world.
This is without a doubt the most fascinating talk on this subject I've ever seen, and I've been interested in the topic for over 30 years. I don't know how it slipped under my radar, but it's required viewing for anyone interested in the UFO / UAP phenomenon. Absolutely fantastic. I could listen to Eric and Hal talk for hours, and my only regret is that this isn't an entire series.
Totally agree, especially how Jesse goes about the interview actually picking at who ever guest he has on and even better Jesse is very knowledgeable on his guests work, like really really knowledgeable that creates better content and question asking instead of just scratching the surface and moving on to the next subject! 🔥🔥🔥
It's pseudoscientific nonsense. If you're really curious about potential alien life, listen to SETI talks, listen to Michio Kaku, read books by authors like Alastair Reynolds and Peter Hamilton who postulate a lot more interesting potential realities than these guys. One of them is praising Ingo Swann, for crying out loud. It's absurd.
IMO the multiple cameras, the outdoor locations, the beautiful giant bookcases and the editing take it next level. IQ levels here are v high across board
Now I understand why it took you a while to upload this video, there is a lot of editing, and research involved to make these information and knowledge 100X better explained. Thank You and please never stop.
@@gay_dave the delusional one I don't think of him like that I think of him as a strange ideologist, as for the Scientologist guy it was obvious that he did it as an intelligence agent, not because he believed in it. But yet I could totally be wrong.
Hal is the real deal, I’m impressed by this conversation. Hal is very controlled and calculated in what and how he shares, clearly showing his background across multiple top secret levels of governments. Great depth of questioning and conversation.
Well he is the kind at a glance atleast just from watching this, only part I kind of hate with this is I’m so interested in science and experimenting, I’d even happily live in a hole, just hate not being allowed to learn
Yep, it's hard to accept that we are not in control of our own learning. I for one was taught that I was in total control over my pursuit of knowledge. Evidently, despite what I and Eric Weinstein used to believe, that is not the case. By the way, Eric like myself will never put Hal's claim concerning a [psychic] ability to affect the market to the test. It would be too humiliating. Those who learn how to control others always learn the value of pride and its consort, fear.@@PhillyHardy
As a physicist who has met Puthoff and read his journal articles, I appreciate this interview very much. It occurred to me, that Hal is making a deeper discovery about GR, that stretches to cover EM. I mean, if you have two charges, positive and negative, is that not a space-time distortion, in the same was two masses attract? Would you not see GM effects, like time dilation? However, what would that really mean? It kind of pokes at the concept of time itself. What is time, really? Just another dimension? What is charge, really? How much effect do vacuum fluctuations have on EM constants? It seems the answer to the last question: is that it should have some effect. Mu and Epsilon would then tie into G, and Mu and Epsilon tie into the amount of energy (scalar fields) in a given region of space. It seems we are so close to an answer. Not sure why its hard to pin that down?
55m18s: Jesse, you say: OK, I think we made this point. My answer: No, Eric wasn't finished. Hal's talk about growing money suddenly made him very implausible/unreliable and Eric sensed that very well. Sad that you cut this important 'attack' off. But surely thanks for the great conversation over there!
But that could be said about any government agency. "Hey if you guys have spies why not just manipulate the markets using all the powers you can to control the world" Their answer "We do"...My point being I dont think the government who is sponsoring the programs need proof they can manipulate the market if they already do that. But them being able to produce remote viewing underwater would be a real weapon. Eric was saying "Hey prove it to me" while forgeting what would be more important was proof to his bosses "the US government." 260k back then was a lot of money. I don't think buying a bugatti with it would have impressed uncle sam any more than the data of how they did it did.
Jesse Michels only having 150K subscribers is the real mystery here!! This man should have millions of subscribers based on this amazing content. Keep up the good work boss!
But there're guitar solos and random sound effects every five minutes in the middle of people's sentences to make sure you can't focus on it. It's maddening. Does he carry a kazoo around to play tunes on in the middle of conversations? The editing keeps lurching from a sober discussion to a reality TV epilepsy fest.
I got the idea to use that principle of electrostatic attraction to make an air pump. I put a plastic bag between two sheets of foil and applied a few thousand volts. The exact value doesn't matter. The effect appears immediately. Instead of being attracted, the plates were repelled against gravity! Except for the wires. But the wires were so small that their attractive force was nil compared to the repulsive force acting on the plates. Move the plates around, and always some part of the plate attracts, and another part repels. It was not a good air pump at all. It took a while to figure out what's going on. But it's not as simple as opposite charges attract. Metal plates are bipolar. They have both positive and negative charges. Their charges are free to move. So they both attract and repel. That's half the secret right there. The rest lies squarely in the field of topology.
Freeze frame at 46:30 and the look at the contrast in expressions of Jesse and Eric to the remote viewing explanation by Puthoff. One is of genuine fascination the other of studied scepticism. Loved this discussion.
Have you seen the new Spotify interview with Joe Rogan and Eric Weinstein he talks alot about the subject and even about Hal Puthoff being involved with Scientology back in the day. I was like OMG wow. It's all connected somehow. I just found out about him being into the scientology you may already know :)
@@Muted--x--you Some people are able to investigate or look into a new way of thinking without swallowing it whole hog - like the majority of the planet espousing beliefs that belong back BEFORE the Dark Ages. His interest is Scientology just reflects that era in time when a lot of people were interested. It's a 1970s thing and of no consequence.
@@signalfire6691 Its just all so interesting to me. I really enjoy the subject and all the people are very intertwined not saying they planned it that way it's just like WOW this person knows this person and that person knows this person ect. An it just keeps going and they are all trying to get to answer and hopefully one day most can be released to the public if the find the answers. I just hope its not a worldly military tech. I just am fascinated by the story of the wheel in the sky chariot of fire from the bible and old painting's with ufos or metallic spears in the sky it just is soo neat and I like to think we aren't alone in the universe but who knows.
@@Muted--x--youYou both should read about the close ties between L Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons. I suspect that Scientology plays an official role in all this, probably as a recruitment tool.
A few months ago, I was speaking with, Ross Coulthart, when we happened upon the subject of the Washington over-flights in 1952. Ross asked me, “Why?” I replied with the question, “What else happened in 1952?” He said, “I’m not sure, tell me.” I then reminded him of Teller, and the completion & detonation of the first H-bomb. To the best of my knowledge, Eric , in this interview, is the first person I’ve seen to publicly make the connection on any widely viewed forum. Way to start connecting the dots for the people, guys! Big cheers to you, ERIC! ✌🏻🍻
But why is that a much bigger deal than the atomic bombs we blew up at the end of WW2? Didn't those also send a signal into the universe? UFO activity increased drastically by 1946-47, and there were many blatant "flaps" besides 1952 Washington, that one just stands out because it's the capital of the US.
@@alexmeduna641 I’m afraid that’s a question far beyond the scope and purview of a RUclips comment. It requires an above- average understanding of physics, the state of theoretical physics at that time, the Multi-layered feud between Ed Teller and Oppenheimer, a well-defined understanding of the difference between fission and fusion, as well as a thorough understanding of the chronology of ufology. Suffice it to say, the hydrogen bomb was VERY different from the weapons dropped on Japan, with a very scary potential for an unstoppable chain reaction. Moreover, prior to those two weeks in 1952, there had never been a UFO flap that was so clearly meant to send a message to the the leaders of the world’s superpower. Please don’t misunderstand my tone. I don’t intend to condescend. However, your question is not easily answered, and each new step toward understanding the true significance only begets more questions. If you are truly interested in doing all of the research, I’d be happy to respond with some key terms/phrases that you can Google, some books you can read, and some public domain documents and documentaries. Let me know! 🍻
You had another comment saying you could share "key terms/phrases that you can Google, some books you can read, and some public domain documents and documentaries." can you share that please?
@@Indrid-Cold all of the research as you mentioned :), relating to the 1952 importance and (cosmic) significance of the H-bomb vs the other types before it as well as everything else connected to the phenomenon.
Me and a friend watched three at close range ( 150 yard ) over a tree line edging a small pasture. I’m in my fifties and own my own business. We felt privileged, after the fight or flight sensation relaxed. Don’t think I’ve ver been more conscious and alert. I pay attention to the topic very closely now. It’s amazing
I love when intelligent minds get together and have an adult conversation in a serious way! What a lot of people don’t understand is if we can figure all this stuff out, we evolve.
Question for anyone : Why is the speed of light called a constant when, according to Einstein's famous E = mC^2 or, using first year algebra, (E/m)^1/2 = C, which says the speed of light is a ratio of the total energy of the universe divided by the total mass (the square root, but we're talking about such big quantities , for simplicity's sake, I'm just going to concentrate on the ratio part. We have learned energy and matter are two versions of the same thing, nuclear bombs are an example of matter turning into energy. If E = 0 and it's all one hunk of matter, C = 0 because there's no place to go. If m approaches 0, and it's all energy, C will increase, in fact, C will approach infinity. Does the universe’s ratio E/m change? It does so within stars and atomic bombs, so why not the universe as a whole? The Big Bang Theory claims in the ancient past it was all m, E = 0, and C must have been 0, since there was no place to go anyway. Similar to how a Gaussian closed 3-D surface can be treated as if its center of mass point contained all of its mass, can an area of space be treated as if its average E/m ratio were the universe’s E/m ratio? In other words, if in interstellar space, can a space station behave as if the mass of the universe were much less than it is, thus raising the speed of light on the station? Would that make the distant stars closer than they appear?
Amazing, sensible, skeptical and refreshing. Tackled some nagging questions and appreciated and indeed felt Weinstein’s nausea. Thank you for this, perhaps the best interview ever shared on the subject.
@@sojernon8689 Right. It’s like he’s trading on the idea that “Hey I know some crazy secret stuff and I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you. “ Kind of like the entire intel community which essentially ensures anyone with a valid /up-to-date top-secret or better clearance a j-o-b for life.
@@sojernon8689 An awful lot of what he's worked on is classified at the highest levels. He CAN'T talk about it. The same government that funded most of his projects also put stipulations on how what they learned or worked on was disseminated.
@@signalfire6 Not sure about this, it’s the same groups of UFO believers going back 30+ years, Hal Puthoff was taken in by noted huckster and ‘last spoon bender’ Uri Geller, they want to believe. There are documents available on the CIA website that are transcripts of these remote viewing sessions that read like cut scenes from the movie Total Recall or Prometheus with colossal alien temples on Mars. The giant aliens forced to vacate Mars due to cataclysmic natural events storms / earthquakes etc. All very vague, more induced day dreams that ‘remote viewing’ His name should be Hal Puton.
@@TulseLuper92 I disagree thoroughly after years of research on remote viewing as well as other adjacent topics. Puthoff and Targ (as well as the RV'ers Ingo Swann and the others) are the real deal. Just because we don't know how it works, doesn't mean it's not possible - consider what we now know about science or physics compared to 100 years ago and you'll begin to understand how wrong the general public can be... SRI approached the subjects with the best of scientific intentions - the exact opposite of knee jerk uneducated 'debunking'. Please prove how they were 'taken in by' 'noted huckster' Uri Geller - do the research, I think you'll find the exact opposite.
This was a great juxtaposed conversation. I loved watching Eric struggle with Hal"s narrative. Eric's arrogance is boundless, while Hal who has been there and done that is so calm and lacks any hubris. Great video. How did you get these two guys together. I'm impressed.
Well said. It seemed like Eric took any opportunity he could to interrupt in order to talk about himself and how what Hal was saying didn't fit his current worldview.
Exactly. Eric's narcissism and arrogance are always off the charts and it may not be noticed by the general public but as a scientist myself is so obvious he has no clue about the scientific method and critical thinking and is a mathematician only to the core. Like an unfortunate stereotype he sometimes rather brazenly exhibits a similar sense of hereditary and cultural entitlement that his namesake Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein showed as if just his cultural background means his ideas can't be questioned or if you disagree you must be antisemitic. In talking about Uaps his attitude of needing to gather the greatest ever minds in antigravity and high order theoretical physics to discuss what exotic anti gravity propulsions systems ETs must use is hilariously irrational. It's like after a bigfoot sighting to gather all the worlds top dieticians and zoologists and animal social structure experts to work out what cultural structure Bigfoot must have..... but it doesn't occur to him to instead invite some ape suit makers like oscar winner Rick Baker to study footage and advise how easily faked and filmed a bigfoot 'sighting' could be. He would rather gather a bunch of physics geeks to talk esoteric maths rather than experienced methodical image analysis detectives to identify the likelihood of balloons or misidentified distant conventional jets and determine if there was any evidence at all that something non earthly needs an explanation involving unknown physics.
I suspect Eric Weinstein paid him to do it so he could match brains with a real scientist. He had Roger Penrose on his podcast and overtalked him as well.
What we call parapsychology or paranormal or pseudoscience today is simply a reflection of the limits of our current knowledge and of the range of our senses to comprehend. Consider being transported back in time 1000 years and conversing with scientists of that era about our current knowledge and technology. It would seem to then as paranormal etc to folks of that era also.
Consider too the great mysteries that still surround consciousness, and how neuroscience is still only in its infancy. I do not think we can authoritatively confirm or deny any apparent ‘parapsychology’ until we more fully understand consciousness.
Yep. 1,000 years ago you could not have explained to someone what a computer was even if you showed it to them, let alone a billion years of technological advancement if intelligent life developed that long ago.
Are you making the assertion that 'ghosts are real, but we can't see them because our senses have not yet sufficiently evolved far enough on their current trajectory or perhaps even that we have not YET developed a so-called sixth sense more attuned to detection for us to be able to detect with certainty the presence of them' ? Or likewise - that things such as 'Chakra meditation' 'Qi-Gong' 'remote viewing' 'colored auras' 'black magick/witchcraft' 'demonology/summoning demonic entities' 'voodoo' 'healers' - which are commonly referred to as "pseudoscience" (which I think is too generous, even including the word science at all since most of them are just methods which charlatans use to defraud desperate, hopeful, naive, trusting people out of money...) are also or could also be legitimate however we currently lack the technology or senses need to comprehend these things or understand them? It sounds like that's what you're saying. I disagree very strongly. I believe the scientific method is it able to repeatedly show with an overwhelming amount of evidence that things such as ghosts and the like are demonstrably false. We have devices which can measure sound and light at different including all the ones that our eyes and ears cannot, thermal imaging, variances in temperature fluctuation, electromagnetic interference, magnetic fields, pressure, electrical current, changes in atmospheric condition or air composition - just to name a few. Time and time again, purported paranormal activity from the presence of a ghost to chakra meditation causing your body to heat up in certain areas or become protected by some divine force FAILS to leave any measurable or quantifiable evidence of its existence. Mind you this is not just the lack of something, but the act of proving claims by individuals to be wrong, non-existent, and devoid of any reason. Also mind you, these subjects or alleged phenomena aren't abstract, intangible ideas like "love"" is. Nope. The scientific method makes quick and complete easy work proving these things false. We know enough to know that at some later date maybe nine hundred years in the future, no one's going to figure out anti-gravity by arranging pretty colored crystals and minerals into patterns and then and only then, after seeing the magic word which is part of science that we haven't figured out yet, the pattern will activate and let us manipulate gravity at our will. It's just absurd what you are saying. There is truth to the saying that a sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic but the things that are nonsense and junk science now will still be junk science then and hopefully for the sake of the status quo they will have faded into complete obscurity by that time because Humanity will all be connected to singular knowledge base, maybe through a very small wearable or implant that allows us to have access to a complete encyclopedic collection of all knowledge ever recorded in human history rendering any style of Education that doesn't focus on critical thinking or cross-pollination of ideas to solve problems obsolete.
@@samus598 Most of the required concepts for a computer existed for more than two thousand years. Greek actually built a computer-like machine that would predict the motion of the stars. Mounting yourself on a epistemic-high horse bends your perception of history and makes you believe that we are any smarter than we were 2000 years ago.
I think that Eric is trying really hard to believe Hal..... but has to deal with all sorts of cognitive dissonance..... successful stigma programs... As Travis Taylor said, 'but if you only look for your lost car keys under the street lights at night, you won't find them'.... We've got to keep gently pushing, Jay 😊 Love, positivity, creativity and equality 😊
I must know why he didnt continue trading silver contracts!!! this was the elephant in that room, and I'm not saying it discredits putoff... It merely makes him human. Reality has 'deals' with people. When you mess with reality, it 'deals' with you.
@@chrisbova9686 One, he was making plenty of money at the time from his job(s). Two, not everyone is motivated by trying to gather ever more wealth - diminishing returns for time invested and all that. Three, the experiment (initially planned to be limited in time frame) was to prove proof of concept - 'can we do this?' The answer came back Yes and they went on to other things. This is the behavior of a scientist and a curious mind that always wants to learn something new, not that of a greedy jackass that wants thinks driving a Bugatti and owning a yacht is the be-all and end-all of human existence.
@@signalfire6 When you are broke, accumulating wealth is just gathering freedom. Everybody likes more freedom- for themselves. As someone eager to believe, I must use logic, and discernment, because I too have experience using my gifts for profit. It adds up to some crazy stories, and also regret.
I think the most important part is the remote viewing/psychic point because if that is true, then we can just use that to figure out the rest. It was super disappointing to not get that many questions with the person who worked with remote viewers and instead most of those segments were Eric Weinstein's talking about his feelings.
Watching Eric wrestle with how far behind our scientific community is from the reality of the situation is amazing. The shock, disbelief, anger at how much of our shared humanity is being gate-kept from the masses. Priceless - and necessary. Our scientists have been mostly complicit and manipulated, leveraging their "authority" to ostracize good-faith researchers like John Mack, Richard Dolan, and zillions of others. Great video, Jesse!
@9:00, bro IT IS AGREGIOUS. Its happening right now and its not for the best interest of humanity. its for the power and profits of the few who control it, obviously.
@@squeakeththewheel in this instance it is the fact that he believes that atom weapons utilize nuclear fusion, rather than fission which is a schoolboy error. More generally he is someone who desperately wants to be famous for discovering something, but still hasn't figured out what.
I'm very sympathetic to Eric's skeptical reactions and it's great that he could both be honest about the reactions and also open to hearing more. His response about Hal not continuing a lucrative business on the stock market due to "lack of time" or "being exhausted" were quite strong I think. But at the same time, I think there's a danger in trying to suggest that something was impossible simply because we don't know how it was done. If the results were positive, the only possible explanations are that either there was a flaw in the experiment and information was relayed via other means (trickery, fraud etc) or there's a genuine effect here that we just don't yet understand. If you see an aeroplane flying through the air, you can't claim it's not doing that simply because you don't know how it's doing it. That response avenue is not open to you. Either you're being deceived, or it's your understanding of physics that needs to be revised. The same applies with remote viewing. The two options are that either the experiment was flawed and some form of deception was at play (whether intentional or accidental), or there's something real that needs further investigation. In both cases I don't think scientists should simply dismiss it and ignore it. And that's what bothers me about modern science (as much as I still respect and love what it does do well).
Hal is a scientist and if he was working very hard at his job, and he already knew remote viewing worked, and his superiors knew it worked, and it was classified anyway, who did he have to prove it to? Once the proof is done, it is done. Many people, once they have enough for themselves and their families, have little motivation for ever more money.
Eric couldnt comprehend why he was choosing science over money. He could get rich and say he did it with remote viewing and people would laugh at him and say he was just lucky. Or he can do the science, something he is actually passionate about, and prove it with the numbers that matter.
I think an full interview between Eric Weinstein and Russel Targ (Hal's partner at SRI) could be the most interesting discussion i'd ever see! Eric rubbing shoulders with paraspsychology experts is something i hope to see more of in the future.
Great conversation. Watching Eric trying to stop his brain from exploding when Hal calmly discussed the validity and accuracy of remote viewing was brilliant.
@@gruppler Because as a materialist, such a thing completely obliterates his world view. I like Eric, and I think he's an honest man, but he can't make that jump because he has no tools to interpret the world from that perspective. If consciousness is fundamental, anything that can be thought is possible. What we have now is good descriptions of the way most things work from a materialist perspective. But if consciousness is fundamental, it effectively means all those weights and measures are illusions.
@@DAClarkism I can understand that. I have spent years looking from that perspective myself. But those weights and measures are no more illusory than physical reality itself; there are still fundamental principles upon which physical reality unfolds. So the materialist tools are not rendered obsolete, they are just a subset of the toolset needed to make sense of the bigger picture.
@@gruppler The fundamental problem is that material is objective while consciousness is subjective. Science only works on an objective level so to allow for any other origin makes science obsolete. It is also dangerous to allow for the subject to be the arbiter of reality. You are seeing this in the "gender debate" where the logic is that we have to accept a reality because a subject says so. You can easily take this logic to its absurd end and the world no longer makes sense.
Mr Weinstein is a "GEEZA" truely able to sit back and say "I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS" and yet listen to someone telling him "SHIT HE CAN'T BELIEVE" and if it turns out to be valid change his outlook.
38:43 It's terrifying for them, especially if you consider the scale of time. Imagine if their civilization has existed for a million years in peace. Even if they have had contact with other civilizations, perhaps a mutual cooperation or peace, protectorate, whatever, has been in place and been stable for 100.000 years. Every single individual in their civilizations has been "born into" an age of peace and stability. Now imagine human beings becoming capable of splitting the atom and spaceflight and arguably interstellar travel, in 100-200 years. We might be an extreme anomaly in the traditional development of galactic species. it may take an average of 50.000 years to go from medieval age to spaceflight. We always assume we must be the average dumbest people in the universe. But what if we're not? What if we're gaining all this attention because our technological advancement has been unpredictably rapid? So basically, their entire 1 million years of peace, is now forced to deal with an upstart primate that within 100 years attained the near capability to come visit with fusion bombs, without the experiential or evolutionary experience to have attained peace and stability in their own society... They'd be utterly terrified. Even if they have advanced technology it doesnt necessarily equal invulnerable. I have a smartphone that is more advanced than anything Emperor Nero had, i have more knowledge available to me in my internet connection than the entire library of Alexandria. I know more about the world than the Oracle at Delphi. But they could still kill me with a sword from the back, or an arrow shot from the bushes. Everyone is vulnerable to the unexpected, the unpredictable. And humans are extremely unpredictable, because of our individual psyches.
I love this theory, and have also come to this idea on my own. Im glad someone else has discovered this path of thought. You are absolutly right, it would be terrifying to discover an infantile species so utterly barbaric in their ways, have such great technological leaps in such a short amount of time. If they know what we do to our own race, imagine what we could do to a race not of our own.
It's my understanding that these entities were surprised by our progress and they weren't real happy about it. They made it clear that we weren't ready for interstellar space travel. And we were told to slow down & stay close to home. This would explain WHY humans haven't left earth's orbit in half a century. We've effectively been quarantined to the planet until we evolve a bit more.
@@MICHAEL_MAY_8 Not sure I understand your point. We have left Earth's orbit with probes and unmanned missions to Mars and Jupiter plus its moons. We've also used telescopes and radio telescopes to analyze the vast distances of space. Why would a quarantine be needed when we can't live outside our planet's atmosphere?
@@Miketar2424 - Man is not mean't to travel to the other stars because of the rules pertaining to THE ANCIENT COVENANT. He was originally meant to be suppressed and stay ignorant - as per the dark ages. However the Sirian Illuminati purchased us from our owners and tried to educate us with universities and schools. It is the ET Illuminati who have given us all our present technology to see if it would awaken us to a higher level of awareness and spirituality. However as per the rules of the ancient covenant all we have done is use the technology for WAR and Oppression ( through making money ). So on that basis we are to be exterminated as a failed experiment. Man was originally created as a blue print for how creation is to be set ultimately up - that is, as dysfunctional as possible as a species - to be suppressed and kept unaware - and to be used as a food supply to fuel his illegal THEOCRATIC designers; who have been holding control over creation for the last 8,000 years or so. Those THEOCRATIC designers want creation redesigned differently to it's original intention by the non-theocratic first Rulers. Humans are not meant to exist, for we are an unnatural and a deliberately designed to be faulty, species. We are now considered by creation's original owners as as unstable and obsolete species only fit for destruction. The Theocratic owners of humanity have since lost control of Creation.
Or just Hal. Eric goes on too much about how this stuff is blowing his mind, or whatever. I'd enjoy watching him more, if all that was cut out. Maybe in some years or so, he'll get over all of that, so he doesn't let his previous world view get in the way as often.
🧡💛💚💙 they already do . read into the UFO lore, there are many stories about the U.S. Government havent agreement with extra terrestrials about not blowing stuff up for example . but can we all really stick to it, i dont know
@@Humanaut. yep i was in your camp , i thought "oh its just like 3 stories".. then you dig in and see that there's over 5000 stories for the past 100 years . a few people ? probably crazy a few THOUSAND people with over 100-yeras of consistent story and pattern ? theres something there
@@sommi888 I am not sure if you are conflating two things here. I do not contest the fact that there is a seemingly endless number of UFO/alien encounter Stories Spannung across all times and places. I am just sceptical about the government having secret deals with extraterrestrials on how to run our government/planet. The number of people having knowledge of such a thing would be extremely small. And humans love to make up things about everything. The number of stories regarding this is also not convincing for me since even 1000 stories could all on theory have the same source - just like a myriad news outlets all get their material from Reuters and it seems manifold but in reality they're all just Reuters information rebranded and not independent individual accounts of something.
This is great. I really like seeing a full on 'materialist' with a massive knowledge base understanding go on to talk about these subjects (maybe with some resistance). It really extinguishes ignorance in a both directions, and is freaking amazing insight for all the stored knowledge in all their thoughts.
One of the best interviews I've seen on the many subjects discussed. A great balance on tackling the skepticism vs the possibility of other theories. Great job!
i have been checking your channel daily after your last interview hinted at this one. LETS GO! Loving the the vids man, I am physics student with a deep interest in the topic. Your coverage is among the best.
We need more of this . I know there are a lot of smart people that are going to watch this that might be thinking about starting their own platform. Please share your knowledge, information , communication skills, or any other way you feel you can contribute. I owe so much of what I've learned in these last few years to a few Good Men that started their own platform, and invited many brilliant minds of today to sit down and have a conversation. Thank you all for sharing 🙏
I think Eric has been the victim of intense criticism, so he may have gained some empathy from that. He probably also wants to avoid more intense criticism of himself for associating with these topics.
It so funny to watch this, Eric is look how smart i am ….Hal is like you only know the half of it. It OBVIOUS he knows way more than he’s speaking about, a couple of times you can see him start to say something and then stop and then be quiet.
Totally agreed, especially when you consider how much of what Puthoff knows is highly classified and he can't even acknowledge it. You can tell when they bump up against classified material because Hal redirects the questions immediately.
If you want to know the truth go down the rabbit hole by clicking my face. Lots of filler information inside of there but the good stuff is mixed in. I have a All metals isolating magnet design here to increase the recycling and mining efficiencies of this planet. I have communicated with Eric before and told him about the reality of what string theory is and how it's related to dark matter creating an illusion of accelerating expansion of the universe... Light is Mass in motion. Dark matter absorbs the energies of light and other energies that passed through it... Dark matter is everywhere around our solar system it is increasing in density as this increases near our sun which is building the density of the dark matter the same thing is happening evenly everywhere... This creates an illusion of accelerating expansion of the universe. The problem with third dimensional existence is thinking that you can measure everything from a singular point in space and time just because we can see it. Objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear... I am a soul time traveler from constellation Aquarius.
What was done with the Philadelphia experiment was to create a divided space using rotating magnetic fields with sufficient strength and a specific frequency. Look into Hilbert space and multi-dimensions. If you can create a magnetic bubble you can go anywhere in time and space almost instantaneously.
This is the first video I've ever seen of yours and I'm really impressed and I'm only 9 minutes into the video. I love how you've added images and music to enhance parts of this talk. Also the flashbacks to previous talks with Eric are awesome.
NO!! Stop it with the X-Files music and sound effects! X-Files and shows like it are TV shows which is a TOTALLY different thing than reality, and when you add music and sound FX, it cheapens everything you're saying and makes it all seem trite and fake. Just imagine how ridiculous the Joe Rogan show would be if there was ominous music and sound FX.
Thank you for covering this topic as much as you have been. Ya know, one really cool person to interview would be Jonathan Weygandt who got mixed in coming across a UAP crash during his time in the military. Heavily armed soldiers dressed in black camouflage from the Department of Energy came in quickly after and took control of the site and made his life a living hell. He's not a part of the UFO community and has nothing to sell. In fact, it's like pulling teeth getting him to talk about some aspects of it. He's definitely not one to conflate things. Just an idea, as it'd be cool to see if you could get an interview with him now that you're into working with whistleblowers.
God I wish I could sit and talk to Hal Puthoff. This was amazing we need more of this, real scientists asking a real scientist like Hal Puthoff their questions about this stuff
@@Man_fay_the_Bru seems to me like you're threatened because he refutes everything that holds your materialist house of cards up. Contrary to your opinion, Hals credentials i.e., government employment say otherwise.
I think at some point in Weinstein's life he decided he was going to be the smartest person in the room; whereas Puthoff decided that he was going to find out how the universe of natural phenomenon and consciousness work. The difference in mindset and motivation is readily apparent. Would have liked to see an exlusively Hal Puthoff interview. I basically don't want to hear Weinstein speak again.
Jesse, I so appreciate your bringing on Eric Weinstein and Hal Putoff. Eric is dynamic and so forthcoming about serious topics. I have been waiting for a forum such as this. Thank you all.
Hal knows everything, was THERE for the last 50-60 years but still wont spill the beans. Listen carefully to his wording. There are better videos. There are many more materials. There is more knowledge.
Thank you so much for this conversation. I had butterflies when Hal described the remote viewing experiment. I wish you’d given him more time to discuss his firsthand account. I’d ask Eric to please reserve his (deeply valuable) skepticism, giving folks all the rope they can carry (nodding like a sycophant while they spin their yarn) before dismantling the components. Patience grasshopper.
This is the guy who was spending government money "researching" a known scam artist, Uri Geller, who has been publicly debunked multiple times and is literally best known for spoon bending, lmao. His first hand experience of any of that is delusional at best if he thinks it was real. That very experiment was shut down because it was proven he was peeping through his fingers at peoples arm movements to see what number they were writing.
Would like to hear more about Dr. Vannevar Bush and his Raytheon company and well as Battelle managing all the top secret national labs and their involvement in procuring scientists to work on these physics/engineering UAP projects.
Indeed. I’ve waiting for 50 plus years for this level of discussion and exposure about a topic which had the ‘tin foil hat’ label. The tech’s real, it flew over my house in the U.K. at 1,000 feet one evening in the 70’s. Unfortunately of course the pool is contaminated with liars and has been for decades.
Great convo! When Eric explained things on the board it was cool - but very expected from him - and instead I would love Hal to explain more complicated things to Eric, so Eric could play the role of a scientific arbiter. Overall, it was a pleasure to watch, a truly great video in a series of many great videos! Thanks, Jesse, Eric and Hal! (And Bechstein in place of Nord is a fantastic upgrade!)
Yeah but it sounds like Hal is buried under a mile of NDAs and classified information, we weren't going to get any better from him. I loved the cutaways to Eric.
The more i see of Eric the more I love him. Seeing him play and talk about music is such a joy. This man understands so much about life. He’s a treasure.
10/10!!! This is progress, no matter which way one looks at it. These are the conversations that need to take place for humanity to progress. Not calling Eric a "believer" but to even dare being curious on the phenomenon is brave and commendable. Let Pandoras Box open!
Even as a casual observer, this is a big deal. When for years, our institutions have refused to even acknowledge certain things or even been actively engaged in suppression seeing these two come together is a sign things are changing. It’s just a casual conversation with nothing we haven’t already know but hopefully it’s just the beginning of new lines of inquiry without derision and career suicide. There are still massive barriers and roadblocks but can we all thank the internet for its great work? Thank you Mr Internet. I do chuckle at EW’s “nope” attitude when it comes to the high strangeness. In the past, it was also a bridge too far for me. I would scoff at psychics and paranormal events but take UFO videos at face value. Is there a connection? Who knows. Hal certainly doesn’t believe it’s a waste of time and having followed the Skinwalker saga I’m simply convinced it should be pursued…with caution of course.
As far as ‘nuts and bolts’ go the tech’s real…it flew over my house in the U.K. at 1,000 feet one evening in the 70’s. Everything else over and above that is speculation on my part.
this podcast provides no real evidence and hal puthoff says very little about a very little, oh your getting warmer your getting hotter ok your getting cold again !
Eric has been new to me. I love his viewpoints. He adds new dimensions to tough questions and sometimes simple answers. Fun. I miss Art Bell. I love George Noory. The show hasn't kept me after Art Bell. Not sure why. I listened since the early 90s. And for almost 30 years...every single night. The themes repeat a lot. Eric adds other questions and ideas and he's direct and forward with his ideas. He doesn't always agree. And he describes why. He admits when he doesn't know too. He has a gentle way to have conversations with ANYONE. Civil and has manners. Nice. Art Bell had manners and open ears too.
Eric articulated exactly what I was thinking at 54:20. If you’re as sophisticated and ambitious as this guy, and find some magical method to generate unlimited capital, you’re going ride it until the wheels fall off. Even if youre not coin operated, use it to fund your own research centers like the world has never seen. Doesn’t add up.
i guess, but everyone has different priorities. for me i've always had the position that i want to be comfortable and not stress about money but i don't give a shit about being wealthy
Jesse you absolutely, completely put your finger on the right way to explore this topic. I would click "like" 1000 times if that worked. Please continue a series of interviews with you and Mr. Weinstein interviewing Mr. Putoff again, and any other top minds. Thank you.
Great video. First of all Hal Puthoff is a genius. Second, If his more fundamental theory in which Einsteinian GR is only a subset, it might explain why ET seems so much more interested in us once we started exploding nuclear weapons. Maybe these explosions are having a much more significant impact on spacetime, or it’s equivalent in his new theory, than we can possibly imagine at this time.
i think it's related to the great filter they maybe know that by the time humanity is playing with energy and matter, they might soon start manipulating space-time and playing with vacuum energy and well, if you heard of vacuum collapse, it's maybe the ultimate great filter bc if humanity caused a vacuum collapse, it's the begining of the end of the whole universe
It’s difficult to think that a few tiny nuclear explosions would affect much when one considers what the average supernova can do. More likely it’s a simple “the kids have found the matches” scenario.
I thought it was Luis Elizondo, not Lue? Did I miss something? Lol Elizondo is not a scientist and even scientists are not free from feeling or fault. There are so many variable aspects to this conversation and likely anyone in these supposed black budget projects won't be coming forward. Not the people that made real progress. Even now, especially now. Elizondo won't reveal anything. That's my prediction. Just more tap dancing on the table. Have a seat and enjoy that show for all it is, aerobic and acerbic side-stepping.
You should interview Eric Davis as well, he could possibly answer more physics questions in regards to UAPs and their theoretical/hypothetical propulsion mechanics. I think Weinstein could ask some important questions on the topic as well.
There isn't a person on this earth that would abandon a project that was giving them a 70% success rate in the stock market. That's what I love so much about Eric. He is not afraid to call BS on anyone including himself.
When you see a penny, do you feel any remote need to grab it before anyone else sees it? It's something that happens alot that ppl assume the mentality of those with millions or billions of dollars is similar in perspective to you. It's an easy thing to assume though, but what you would do with a 70% success rate in the market for profits is equivalent to a penguin collecting rocks. It's completely irrelevant and a waste of time for someone who absolutely does not need it the same way you do
Love how Eric talks about extra temporal dimensions and gets repulsed by the notion of ufos being hidden from direct observation. He describes a potential rationale. Just funny how intelligence is a spectrum. We all have our own confirmation biases and unique perspective.
This was a GREAT conversation. Two knowledgeable people treating each other with respect, not always agreeing. Fabulous work. I didn’t understand most of it but questions I wanted asked. I stumbled on your channel and I watched this based on Hal Putoff. I love the fact that all of you had so many layers of understanding. I look forward to exploring your channel
You absolutely KNOW that if Eric is talking on a subject, his take is going to be intelligent, insightful & measured. He could read a telephone book & it would be fascinating.
@@doylegaines1319 n The CIA worked him for 20 years because his abilities clearly weren't real... I like your inference skills .. shocked you even made it this far in life mate
You have the ur-stuff out of which everything emerges. The pre-Socratic Greek philosophers gave us that. Now we call it the quantum vacuum. Then Andrei Sakharov suggested that the crazy zoo of particles we see just condensed out, leaving behind a tension gradient that when superimposed IS gravity. Discuss!
That part about the remote viewing experiment Hal did before the CIA reached out to him was fascinating...especially the part where he said they took the guy's drawing explaining what he was doing / seeing / what was happening and that it's never been published.
@@squeakeththewheel Thank god someone else smells BS on this guy. He also thought Uri Gellar knew real magic. I have never heard him distance himself from this but it apparently happened when he investigated Gellar in a govt. report. Gellar for the record was a magician doing store bought tricks.
I'm honestly amazed at how well put together your videos like this are... It's actually insane. Like the videography of this stuff rivals that of multi-million-dollar documentaries. I'm thinking you must have an entire team that works on putting these together??
Refreshing , interesting and too damn short. In all honesty I could of spent five to six hours with these guys. I just love the way that serious conversations are popping up all over regarding this fascinating subject.. the UFO phenomena needs more of this rather than the ancient aliens nonsense which only serves to make it a joke. I love how the pace of this subject has really increased in its quantity and quality that is much appreciated by myself.. Bravo 👏👏👏
all that and yet you (like a dozen others I see on yt comments every day) commit the most egregious assault on grammar; I would argue worse than 'conversate' 'irregardless' are those that say 'of' in place of "__'ve". Contractions are 2nd grade.😤
Oh god! You are so right. The Ancient Aliens guys frustrate me to no end. They take just about anything archeological and try to turn it into alien related phenomenon. When have UFOs ever needed runways or why would a Mayan king be an astronaut just because he happens to be depicted in a way similar to how our astronauts sit in a rocket. Everything they come up with is garbage. There are a few tantalizing clues from history, but the AA guys project constantly onto the past.
38:43 this is something so few "ufologists" actually consider, seriously. Even if you have god-like technology, if you have a physical representation in this universe (or if fusion bombs affect things beyond the physical), you're STILL vulnerable to extreme unexpected bursts of energy, such as a fusion bomb. People often misunderstand interstellar civilizations to equal invulnerability. Not necessarily so. An arrow fired by a tribesman in New Guinea can still kill a "modern man" from Boca Chica that works on the Mars Program. Despite all his knowledge, despite his smartphone, despite his rocketry designs, he can still be killed by an arrow if it strikes him unawares. Why wouldnt the same be true for an ET civilization? If we actually think seriously about it, as if it was real. And IF crash retrievals are true, even if they werent accidental crashes but actually targeted by us, then that only proves that they are NOT invulnerable.. Imagine this. Imagine if all of human society gets free open access to antigravity and ftl technology as easily available as cars are today.. Even without factoring in fusion or antimatter bombs, EVERY "popular" ET species out there would be faced with MILLIONS, perhaps a BILLION human beings with personal spaceships buzzing around the galaxy.. Let's for the sake of simplicity say that Zeta Reticulii is a genuine homeworld of an ET civilization (as postulated by abductees regarding the Greys). Now imagine a BILLION immature bumbling humans swarming their planet in personal janky spaceships liable to crash and malfunction at any time over their major cities, or even worse if their homeworld is now a ecumenopolis where each square kilometer is valuable developed real-estate, both for habitats and for industrial or research applications... Now, add the knowledge that human beings are governed by free individual will, we're not a collective hive mind. You can never, ever, know if that 1 human being coming towards your city, is one of the 98% friendly / neutral humans, or if its part of the 1-2% psychopathic humans with either religious or other motives that cause them to see your civilization as "demonic".. Now imagine a fusion or antimatter device on said spaceship, to be dropped (or kamikaze'd) on your city, killing millions. Even if you're a hyper advanced civilization, you're still vulnerable to surprise unannounced attacks, even by a lesser advanced, but more unpredictable, civilization of warring primates. Yes, your "motherships" might have incredible energy shields to prevent any damage, but EVERY square inch of your homeworld, or colonies, or orbital habitats, are not necessarily gonna have the same protection. Our main battle tanks today have incredible capability to brush off an RPG round or even an anti-tank mine, without much damage. But can our sky scrapers brush off an RPG round? Are our hospitals armored with kevlar and reactive plating? No. Because they havent needed to be..... So even though we have the technology for incredible armour, most of our world isnt armoured. And now consider if each individual in their civilization has eliminated death by old age, and eliminated aging at all. Now, 1 death is the loss of a potential eternity of life experiences. Arguably more tragic than 1 human death (since we're finite anyway, there's a finite potential that is lost). I would not be surprised if advanced civilizations are much MORE concerned with avoiding violence, than we are in our current nihilistic existence of fragile mortality, which by its very finite nature breeds an inevitable "fuck it, yolo, i only have 2 years left to live anyway" attitude. So we should not be so quick to dismiss the idea that ET civilizations might, actually be terrified, of our potential as human beings. Especially if their civilizations do NOT share our individuality, but are rather hive minds. They wouldnt comprehend how to deal with 8 billion individual beings with individual motives roaming the galaxy in spaceships capable of reaching their homeworlds and disturbing them on a daily basis, like bumbling tourists. Just imagine if it was YOUR home. Imagine if your city, wherever you live, suddenly faced 1 million immigrants, that weren't even human, had no clue about your culture or values, imposed themselves into your airspace and on your roads, peeked into your windows at night out of curiosity, flew around your balcony 24/7. Your life would be fubar.
Okay this is gunna sound crazy, but iv had this idea nagging at me, that we actually reached a similar stage during the last ice age, and that we as a species ended up needing to be quarantined on this planet.
Interesting idea. I suspect it may be odder than that even. Sometimes I wonder if some sci-fi movies/series are representations of what’s happening. I remember someone who claimed to have been “abducted” (although they were described to be very gracious and accommodating) describing how the aliens he interacted with being fascinated with our relationships with animals and couldn’t believe that we had animals as pets and companions. I suspect if these ET civilizations exist, they may be fascinated with our different psychological makeups; especially our independence of thought. I watched a video of military guys being briefed about aliens, some of whom they were supposedly supposed to be fighting against (the informal character of the whole thing made me think it could be real since there was a lot of swearing and interruptions; someone faking something like that would likely make it feel more formal and intense). My point is I can’t help but wonder if the scenario depicted in Stargate SG1 might be a parallel to the reality of humans beings enlisted to help an alien civilization fight an ET war because we are both good at warfare but also have more independence of thought, allowing us to proceed with warfare in unique and unexpected ways that such an advanced civilization might not be capable of carrying out; while we’re also not inherently evil, which could make it possible for some of them to trust us to a degree. It’s obviously a highly speculative hypothesis, but portraying a somewhat real situation in fiction would provide plausible deniability for the powers that be. I was trained in Cultural Anthropology and I just get an odd feeling from much of our fiction that there’s more to what we’re fed as a civilization than just entertainment; as a cultural observer, I sometimes can’t help but think that there’s a purpose behind all these alien movies sometimes. But it’s just a thought, not a held belief or anything.
There was an interview on one of those UFO TV programs a few years ago. They mention an article in a military magazine Jane's Weekly, July 1996. It talked about an Antigravities Propulsion System, being built by SAIC, EG&G and Philips Labs, at Groom Lake. In that video the host did an interview with Retired Admiral Bobby Inman, who was on the Board of SAIC at that time. Like a deer in the headlights he answered questions about the story in Jane's. I'll never forget this. He said, "I am on shaky ground here, but the craft is for Surveillance, Drug Enforcement and as an Attack Vehicle." I have this on VHS somewhere. I worked for SAIC from 2008 to 2012, and during that time I tried to get a copy of that 1996 Janes and could not. I tried again a few year ago and was told they don't have digital copies and not more hard ones. Maybe one of you can get one.
Wow this was actually one of the most interesting discussions I've ever witnessed. Hal Puthoff bringing relatively verifiable data into the mix and Eric's mind trying to fit it into a 13 dimensional model. Really impressed that Eric was hanging around despite his sense of revulsion against everything he knows to be true. Amazing minds.
Looking forward to this. By the way, I emailed you Jesse. Would love to connect. Glad to see your hard work is gaining momentum and I wish you luck.
Please interview Hal Puttoff, Curt!
Eric talking to a person who worships the space alien Xenu is peak IDW.
Gravity is nothing more than a gradient quench of inertial drag. An easy way to model what happens due the alteration of the Vacuum by a natural gravity source is this: a submarine sits idle at some depth in the ocean, not moving. A large sphere of steam is created, and maintained, directly in front of it. The pressure of the medium (water in this case) at the rear accelerates the submarine into the less-dense, ie. rarified, medium - the huge, static steam sphere in front of the boat.
Carefully note that energy was required to be added to the medium to create the acceleration. The immense energy and motions of the atoms of the planet alters the Vacuum in the immediate vicinity. The heat source that created the rarification of the medium in front of the boat.
The technique to change the magnitude of inertial drag that is experienced by a matter object in the Vacuum has been known for decades.
Gravity is a gradient quenching of inertial drag - objects are accelerated into the 'steam bubble' created in the Vacuum by the aggregate energy of Earth's atoms.
It is sad we have been lied to by people who live off our taxes for decades. It is tragic. Just because they think an incremental introduction of artificial gravity tech is not possible, does not mean that belief is correct.
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my fuckin boi
@@gay_dave Yah, I don't know why the scientologist guy gave eric the time of day
I would love it to hear more of Hal Puthoff thoughts and ideas.
Without him being interrupted all the time while he is still trying to precisely
articulating new concepts.
He’s got lectures online u can watch
Yeah but Hal keeps putting it off.
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I don't think that your going to hear much more. In this interview if you notice he didn't confirm much. He says a little without saying too much.
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Release the whole interview, Jesse. Eric said this is a short cut. You have a responsibility, mate. Hall isn't in his 20s. Getting another interview isn't likely to ever happen. But, again, you have the lithe film. Do it damn it. Please upvote this.
Indeed👍
Relax buddy, he doesn't owe you anything
Responsibility doesn't include lying.
Is Jesse your father? Imagine telling another adult man you don’t even know that he has some responsibility to you lol. Would it be cool to see, sure.
Yes, please, for the love of God. Eric interrupted so much. His ego is insufferable. I feel like this was probably the last and most candid chance to get some of those questions answered and he could not stop himself from constantly interrupting the man and then the damn topic never even resumed.
Hal knows more than he is saying💯 Jesse, you need to do an interview with just Hal and Eric not interrupting.
He knows much more and so does Eric Davis.
100%. In fact, in a recent James Fox trailer of his new documentary, Hal says, "If I spoke to what I know, I'd go to prison."
Eric expressing his aversions to paranormal phenomena while remaining open to the evidence is courageous! Love Hal’s precise response: “It shows the stigma programs were effective.”
Also Hal: "I could remote view the stock market and be a trillionaire if I really wanted to but I don't have time."
Believe it or not some people love what they do and they dont make alot of money at it.
@@jason1440 what about "i can remote view and see our conversation in advance so in order to absolutely crush you, ill answer for you with the exact words in your mind, making you a true believer within minutes - but i am young enough so i just try to convince people with russles teapot arguments"
@@Sloimer find time…make a little and use it to do great things…like feed or house the poor.
@@digitalperson108 yeah exactly - that dumb comment makes Puthoff’s credibility very suspect
Wish this was longer. Can we have a part 2 please? Hal is so knowledgeable.
Hal is so knowledgeable, because Hal is in on it all, i.e. Hal has been read into all of the Blackness that surrounds this topic and knows that we have had this underlying technology for a long, long time. That being said, the underlying technology would change everything on the planet, especially transportation and energy. The pigs who run things on this planet surely don't want that.
@@fl46559 No, they want it… Only when they can control and monopolize it all by themselves… enter the “gRaTe ReEsEt” 😂😂 except everybody has awakened to what’s going on…
@@fl46559 or destroy the whole entire universe
Should have let Hal talk more and not talk at him
@@joypadb I think Hal wanted it that way. Hal obviously cant say a lot because he knows to much top secret info.
This is definitely one of my favorite RUclips channels on the topic of UFO's.
So good, it's either an awesome psyop or really awesome unprecedented conversations happening in the public sphere. Either way I'm happy to watch the show.
Just discovered Jesse’s channel from the David Grusch interview. Wow! His content keeps me on the edge of my seat. Really enjoying his podcasts!
Excellent work. I don’t understand why every person out there isn’t interested in this stuff. It completely makes sense to me that we should all be pondering this stuff from early childhood on, trying to understand who we are and what this reality is all about. Its amazing to be alive! But instead, people watch so called “reality TV shows” which are ANYTHING but realistic.
It makes no sense 💔
As humans, we only deal with living, nothing is said EVERY DAY about death. We are going to die, a piano will fall on us or some disease. Do we talk about it every day as we do about living? No. We are huge deniers. Or evaders. We keep it out of our minds for we would become depressed? So, not hard to jump from that to why we don't talk about these strange things happening to, apparently, millions of people. There are videos, photos, witnesses, people talking about it. Nope, not part of the daily conversation. The truth is terrifying.
@@tuberhubris4154 Are there fatal piano diseases? Can people sound dangerously out of tune?
It’s not for them..
This was a dream of an interview, actually talking mathematics of the phenomenon. I'm delighted, thanks for all Jesse !
I wish this shit was 7 hours long, I'm so unbelievably thankful for your work, this is my favorite YT channel by far. It would be great if Eric co-hosted interviews with obscure scientific figures such as Hal, for example Jacques Vallee, or Eric Davis, having Eric Weinstein there would be spectacularly useful.
Looking forward to whatever is next, wish this channel all the success in the world.
I'm curious what was left on the cutting room floor!
And now I’m reeeeeaaaaaaally interested in why the Silicon Valley guys are micro dosing to increase “creativity” ………
Eric has a podcast on Spotify the dark horse podcast. Great listening
Vallee is fascinating. Top computer scientist and investor. Not a flake.
Why you call it shit?
This is without a doubt the most fascinating talk on this subject I've ever seen, and I've been interested in the topic for over 30 years. I don't know how it slipped under my radar, but it's required viewing for anyone interested in the UFO / UAP phenomenon. Absolutely fantastic. I could listen to Eric and Hal talk for hours, and my only regret is that this isn't an entire series.
Investigate Dr. Steven Greer and the Disclosure Project.
Totally agree, especially how Jesse goes about the interview actually picking at who ever guest he has on and even better Jesse is very knowledgeable on his guests work, like really really knowledgeable that creates better content and question asking instead of just scratching the surface and moving on to the next subject! 🔥🔥🔥
@@DaleRogersGreer is a fraud.
Do you think the people on here are credible and not sold out to distribute false information to mislead the public?
It's pseudoscientific nonsense. If you're really curious about potential alien life, listen to SETI talks, listen to Michio Kaku, read books by authors like Alastair Reynolds and Peter Hamilton who postulate a lot more interesting potential realities than these guys. One of them is praising Ingo Swann, for crying out loud. It's absurd.
I love how humble Jesse is, trying to absorb as much as possible from a couple of respected and knowledgeable scientists.
Jesse is in full attack mode on the subject and I’ll always be here for it. Channel is underrated AF.
100000% underrated, this is the next channel to blow up
The channel is essentially brand new. It takes time to collect.
IMO the multiple cameras, the outdoor locations, the beautiful giant bookcases and the editing take it next level. IQ levels here are v high across board
Who's Jesse and who is he attacking?
Now I understand why it took you a while to upload this video, there is a lot of editing, and research involved to make these information and knowledge 100X better explained.
Thank You and please never stop.
One of the people is a delusional man who needs help. The other is a fuckin scientologist.
@@gay_dave the delusional one I don't think of him like that I think of him as a strange ideologist, as for the Scientologist guy it was obvious that he did it as an intelligence agent, not because he believed in it. But yet I could totally be wrong.
Hal is the real deal, I’m impressed by this conversation. Hal is very controlled and calculated in what and how he shares, clearly showing his background across multiple top secret levels of governments. Great depth of questioning and conversation.
... he is a gatekeeper if you ask me.
Well he is the kind at a glance atleast just from watching this, only part I kind of hate with this is I’m so interested in science and experimenting, I’d even happily live in a hole, just hate not being allowed to learn
Yep, it's hard to accept that we are not in control of our own learning. I for one was taught that I was in total control over my pursuit of knowledge. Evidently, despite what I and Eric Weinstein used to believe, that is not the case. By the way, Eric like myself will never put Hal's claim concerning a [psychic] ability to affect the market to the test. It would be too humiliating. Those who learn how to control others always learn the value of pride and its consort, fear.@@PhillyHardy
Hal = fraud
As a physicist who has met Puthoff and read his journal articles, I appreciate this interview very much.
It occurred to me, that Hal is making a deeper discovery about GR, that stretches to cover EM. I mean, if you have two charges, positive and negative, is that not a space-time distortion, in the same was two masses attract? Would you not see GM effects, like time dilation? However, what would that really mean? It kind of pokes at the concept of time itself. What is time, really? Just another dimension? What is charge, really? How much effect do vacuum fluctuations have on EM constants?
It seems the answer to the last question: is that it should have some effect. Mu and Epsilon would then tie into G, and Mu and Epsilon tie into the amount of energy (scalar fields) in a given region of space.
It seems we are so close to an answer. Not sure why its hard to pin that down?
55m18s: Jesse, you say: OK, I think we made this point. My answer: No, Eric wasn't finished. Hal's talk about growing money suddenly made him very implausible/unreliable and Eric sensed that very well. Sad that you cut this important 'attack' off. But surely thanks for the great conversation over there!
But that could be said about any government agency. "Hey if you guys have spies why not just manipulate the markets using all the powers you can to control the world" Their answer "We do"...My point being I dont think the government who is sponsoring the programs need proof they can manipulate the market if they already do that. But them being able to produce remote viewing underwater would be a real weapon. Eric was saying "Hey prove it to me" while forgeting what would be more important was proof to his bosses "the US government." 260k back then was a lot of money. I don't think buying a bugatti with it would have impressed uncle sam any more than the data of how they did it did.
Well said!!!!
55:18😊
Maybe there are reasons why he stopped he can’t disclose on camera. And they agreed off camera.
Now I know what a dog feels like when it watches TV
whats up dog
WOOF
Hilarious! I feel more like a chimpanzee
But a high IQ Labrador ( dont put yourseĺf down )
@@57greyghost WOOF...WOOF
Jesse Michels only having 150K subscribers is the real mystery here!! This man should have millions of subscribers based on this amazing content. Keep up the good work boss!
It goes over most people heads
i don't even look at how many subs someone has, it's completely irrelevant to me
But there're guitar solos and random sound effects every five minutes in the middle of people's sentences to make sure you can't focus on it. It's maddening. Does he carry a kazoo around to play tunes on in the middle of conversations? The editing keeps lurching from a sober discussion to a reality TV epilepsy fest.
World is majority npcs
He should release the full interview
I got the idea to use that principle of electrostatic attraction to make an air pump. I put a plastic bag between two sheets of foil and applied a few thousand volts. The exact value doesn't matter. The effect appears immediately. Instead of being attracted, the plates were repelled against gravity! Except for the wires. But the wires were so small that their attractive force was nil compared to the repulsive force acting on the plates. Move the plates around, and always some part of the plate attracts, and another part repels. It was not a good air pump at all. It took a while to figure out what's going on. But it's not as simple as opposite charges attract. Metal plates are bipolar. They have both positive and negative charges. Their charges are free to move. So they both attract and repel. That's half the secret right there. The rest lies squarely in the field of topology.
Freeze frame at 46:30 and the look at the contrast in expressions of Jesse and Eric to the remote viewing explanation by Puthoff. One is of genuine fascination the other of studied scepticism. Loved this discussion.
I prefer 44:44 when Eric randomly crosses his eyes haha
I’ve watched this three times and yet look forward to viewing it again. Hope you can get Eric and Hal together at least one more time.
it was entertaining to watch Eric struggle to keep up with Hal.
Have you seen the new Spotify interview with Joe Rogan and Eric Weinstein he talks alot about the subject and even about Hal Puthoff being involved with Scientology back in the day. I was like OMG wow. It's all connected somehow. I just found out about him being into the scientology you may already know :)
@@Muted--x--you Some people are able to investigate or look into a new way of thinking without swallowing it whole hog - like the majority of the planet espousing beliefs that belong back BEFORE the Dark Ages. His interest is Scientology just reflects that era in time when a lot of people were interested. It's a 1970s thing and of no consequence.
@@signalfire6691 Its just all so interesting to me. I really enjoy the subject and all the people are very intertwined not saying they planned it that way it's just like WOW this person knows this person and that person knows this person ect. An it just keeps going and they are all trying to get to answer and hopefully one day most can be released to the public if the find the answers. I just hope its not a worldly military tech. I just am fascinated by the story of the wheel in the sky chariot of fire from the bible and old painting's with ufos or metallic spears in the sky it just is soo neat and I like to think we aren't alone in the universe but who knows.
@@Muted--x--youYou both should read about the close ties between L Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons. I suspect that Scientology plays an official role in all this, probably as a recruitment tool.
A few months ago, I was speaking with, Ross Coulthart, when we happened upon the subject of the Washington over-flights in 1952. Ross asked me, “Why?” I replied with the question, “What else happened in 1952?”
He said, “I’m not sure, tell me.”
I then reminded him of Teller, and the completion & detonation of the first H-bomb.
To the best of my knowledge, Eric , in this interview, is the first person I’ve seen to publicly make the connection on any widely viewed forum. Way to start connecting the dots for the people, guys!
Big cheers to you, ERIC! ✌🏻🍻
But why is that a much bigger deal than the atomic bombs we blew up at the end of WW2? Didn't those also send a signal into the universe? UFO activity increased drastically by 1946-47, and there were many blatant "flaps" besides 1952 Washington, that one just stands out because it's the capital of the US.
@@alexmeduna641 I’m afraid that’s a question far beyond the scope and purview of a RUclips comment. It requires an above- average understanding of physics, the state of theoretical physics at that time, the Multi-layered feud between Ed Teller and Oppenheimer, a well-defined understanding of the difference between fission and fusion, as well as a thorough understanding of the chronology of ufology. Suffice it to say, the hydrogen bomb was VERY different from the weapons dropped on Japan, with a very scary potential for an unstoppable chain reaction. Moreover, prior to those two weeks in 1952, there had never been a UFO flap that was so clearly meant to send a message to the the leaders of the world’s superpower.
Please don’t misunderstand my tone. I don’t intend to condescend. However, your question is not easily answered, and each new step toward understanding the true significance only begets more questions. If you are truly interested in doing all of the research, I’d be happy to respond with some key terms/phrases that you can Google, some books you can read, and some public domain documents and documentaries. Let me know! 🍻
You had another comment saying you could share "key terms/phrases that you can Google, some books you can read, and some public domain documents and documentaries." can you share that please?
@@silas1000 - Sure…which elements of the story/events are you most interested in?
@@Indrid-Cold all of the research as you mentioned :), relating to the 1952 importance and (cosmic) significance of the H-bomb vs the other types before it as well as everything else connected to the phenomenon.
by far the best, the most important watch on the topic in decades. everyone needs to watch this. everyone.
Oh shut up
Me and a friend watched three at close range ( 150 yard ) over a tree line edging a small pasture. I’m in my fifties and own my own business. We felt privileged, after the fight or flight sensation relaxed. Don’t think I’ve ver been more conscious and alert. I pay attention to the topic very closely now. It’s amazing
watched 3 what?
You are so lucky
@@jadezee6316 UFOs duh!
my dream is to see one, my father saw couple in Warsaw, Poland in the 90s. It was in newspaper later on.
Yeah well I'm 87 and I own a UFO business. I saw 53 UFO's above my house. Up yours!
I love when intelligent minds get together and have an adult conversation in a serious way! What a lot of people don’t understand is if we can figure all this stuff out, we evolve.
and then you look at the subect topic for just 1 second and are snapped back to the reality that these people are dipshits.
You won't get much evolution from these scam artist. But you will get a lighter wallet when they pass the hat around at the next UAP convention.
Question for anyone : Why is the speed of light called a constant when, according to Einstein's famous E = mC^2 or, using first year algebra, (E/m)^1/2 = C, which says the speed of light is a ratio of the total energy of the universe divided by the total mass (the square root, but we're talking about such big quantities , for simplicity's sake, I'm just going to concentrate on the ratio part.
We have learned energy and matter are two versions of the same thing, nuclear bombs are an example of matter turning into energy.
If E = 0 and it's all one hunk of matter, C = 0 because there's no place to go.
If m approaches 0, and it's all energy, C will increase, in fact, C will approach infinity.
Does the universe’s ratio E/m change? It does so within stars and atomic bombs, so why not the universe as a whole? The Big Bang Theory claims in the ancient past it was all m, E = 0, and C must have been 0, since there was no place to go anyway.
Similar to how a Gaussian closed 3-D surface can be treated as if its center of mass point contained all of its mass, can an area of space be treated as if its average E/m ratio were the universe’s E/m ratio? In other words, if in interstellar space, can a space station behave as if the mass of the universe were much less than it is, thus raising the speed of light on the station? Would that make the distant stars closer than they appear?
Amazing, sensible, skeptical and refreshing. Tackled some nagging questions and appreciated and indeed felt Weinstein’s nausea. Thank you for this, perhaps the best interview ever shared on the subject.
I dunno, Hal Puthoff comes across like a charlatan… always heading these fringe projects but can’t provide any details.. all very strange
@@sojernon8689 Right. It’s like he’s trading on the idea that “Hey I know some crazy secret stuff and I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you. “
Kind of like the entire intel community which essentially ensures anyone with a valid /up-to-date top-secret or better clearance a
j-o-b for life.
@@sojernon8689 An awful lot of what he's worked on is classified at the highest levels. He CAN'T talk about it. The same government that funded most of his projects also put stipulations on how what they learned or worked on was disseminated.
@@signalfire6 Not sure about this, it’s the same groups of UFO believers going back 30+ years, Hal Puthoff was taken in by noted huckster and ‘last spoon bender’ Uri Geller, they want to believe. There are documents available on the CIA website that are transcripts of these remote viewing sessions that read like cut scenes from the movie Total Recall or Prometheus with colossal alien temples on Mars. The giant aliens forced to vacate Mars due to cataclysmic natural events storms / earthquakes etc. All very vague, more induced day dreams that ‘remote viewing’ His name should be Hal Puton.
@@TulseLuper92 I disagree thoroughly after years of research on remote viewing as well as other adjacent topics. Puthoff and Targ (as well as the RV'ers Ingo Swann and the others) are the real deal. Just because we don't know how it works, doesn't mean it's not possible - consider what we now know about science or physics compared to 100 years ago and you'll begin to understand how wrong the general public can be... SRI approached the subjects with the best of scientific intentions - the exact opposite of knee jerk uneducated 'debunking'. Please prove how they were 'taken in by' 'noted huckster' Uri Geller - do the research, I think you'll find the exact opposite.
This was a great juxtaposed conversation.
I loved watching Eric struggle with Hal"s narrative.
Eric's arrogance is boundless, while Hal who has been there and done that is so calm and lacks any hubris.
Great video.
How did you get these two guys together. I'm impressed.
Well said. It seemed like Eric took any opportunity he could to interrupt in order to talk about himself and how what Hal was saying didn't fit his current worldview.
Exactly. Eric's narcissism and arrogance are always off the charts and it may not be noticed by the general public but as a scientist myself is so obvious he has no clue about the scientific method and critical thinking and is a mathematician only to the core. Like an unfortunate stereotype he sometimes rather brazenly exhibits a similar sense of hereditary and cultural entitlement that his namesake Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein showed as if just his cultural background means his ideas can't be questioned or if you disagree you must be antisemitic.
In talking about Uaps his attitude of needing to gather the greatest ever minds in antigravity and high order theoretical physics to discuss what exotic anti gravity propulsions systems ETs must use is hilariously irrational. It's like after a bigfoot sighting to gather all the worlds top dieticians and zoologists and animal social structure experts to work out what cultural structure Bigfoot must have..... but it doesn't occur to him to instead invite some ape suit makers like oscar winner Rick Baker to study footage and advise how easily faked and filmed a bigfoot 'sighting' could be.
He would rather gather a bunch of physics geeks to talk esoteric maths rather than experienced methodical image analysis detectives to identify the likelihood of balloons or misidentified distant conventional jets and determine if there was any evidence at all that something non earthly needs an explanation involving unknown physics.
Puthoff = fraud
I suspect Eric Weinstein paid him to do it so he could match brains with a real scientist. He had Roger Penrose on his podcast and overtalked him as well.
What we call parapsychology or paranormal or pseudoscience today is simply a reflection of the limits of our current knowledge and of the range of our senses to comprehend. Consider being transported back in time 1000 years and conversing with scientists of that era about our current knowledge and technology. It would seem to then as paranormal etc to folks of that era also.
any sufficiently advanced technology...
Consider too the great mysteries that still surround consciousness, and how neuroscience is still only in its infancy. I do not think we can authoritatively confirm or deny any apparent ‘parapsychology’ until we more fully understand consciousness.
Yep. 1,000 years ago you could not have explained to someone what a computer was even if you showed it to them, let alone a billion years of technological advancement if intelligent life developed that long ago.
Are you making the assertion that 'ghosts are real, but we can't see them because our senses have not yet sufficiently evolved far enough on their current trajectory or perhaps even that we have not YET developed a so-called sixth sense more attuned to detection for us to be able to detect with certainty the presence of them' ?
Or likewise - that things such as 'Chakra meditation' 'Qi-Gong' 'remote viewing' 'colored auras' 'black magick/witchcraft' 'demonology/summoning demonic entities' 'voodoo' 'healers' - which are commonly referred to as "pseudoscience" (which I think is too generous, even including the word science at all since most of them are just methods which charlatans use to defraud desperate, hopeful, naive, trusting people out of money...) are also or could also be legitimate however we currently lack the technology or senses need to comprehend these things or understand them?
It sounds like that's what you're saying. I disagree very strongly. I believe the scientific method is it able to repeatedly show with an overwhelming amount of evidence that things such as ghosts and the like are demonstrably false. We have devices which can measure sound and light at different including all the ones that our eyes and ears cannot, thermal imaging, variances in temperature fluctuation, electromagnetic interference, magnetic fields, pressure, electrical current, changes in atmospheric condition or air composition - just to name a few.
Time and time again, purported paranormal activity from the presence of a ghost to chakra meditation causing your body to heat up in certain areas or become protected by some divine force FAILS to leave any measurable or quantifiable evidence of its existence. Mind you this is not just the lack of something, but the act of proving claims by individuals to be wrong, non-existent, and devoid of any reason. Also mind you, these subjects or alleged phenomena aren't abstract, intangible ideas like "love"" is. Nope. The scientific method makes quick and complete easy work proving these things false.
We know enough to know that at some later date maybe nine hundred years in the future, no one's going to figure out anti-gravity by arranging pretty colored crystals and minerals into patterns and then and only then, after seeing the magic word which is part of science that we haven't figured out yet, the pattern will activate and let us manipulate gravity at our will. It's just absurd what you are saying.
There is truth to the saying that a sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic but the things that are nonsense and junk science now will still be junk science then and hopefully for the sake of the status quo they will have faded into complete obscurity by that time because Humanity will all be connected to singular knowledge base, maybe through a very small wearable or implant that allows us to have access to a complete encyclopedic collection of all knowledge ever recorded in human history rendering any style of Education that doesn't focus on critical thinking or cross-pollination of ideas to solve problems obsolete.
@@samus598 Most of the required concepts for a computer existed for more than two thousand years. Greek actually built a computer-like machine that would predict the motion of the stars. Mounting yourself on a epistemic-high horse bends your perception of history and makes you believe that we are any smarter than we were 2000 years ago.
The number of times i said "wait, what?", Off the charts. Loved watching Eric process the wild claims.
I could watch this all day. Great video!
This is fantastic, more like a short documentary, amazing job Jesse and Eric.
I think that Eric is trying really hard to believe Hal..... but has to deal with all sorts of cognitive dissonance..... successful stigma programs...
As Travis Taylor said, 'but if you only look for your lost car keys under the street lights at night, you won't find them'....
We've got to keep gently pushing, Jay 😊
Love, positivity, creativity and equality 😊
I must know why he didnt continue trading silver contracts!!! this was the elephant in that room, and I'm not saying it discredits putoff... It merely makes him human. Reality has 'deals' with people. When you mess with reality, it 'deals' with you.
@@chrisbova9686 well said!
@@chrisbova9686 One, he was making plenty of money at the time from his job(s). Two, not everyone is motivated by trying to gather ever more wealth - diminishing returns for time invested and all that. Three, the experiment (initially planned to be limited in time frame) was to prove proof of concept - 'can we do this?' The answer came back Yes and they went on to other things. This is the behavior of a scientist and a curious mind that always wants to learn something new, not that of a greedy jackass that wants thinks driving a Bugatti and owning a yacht is the be-all and end-all of human existence.
@@signalfire6 When you are broke, accumulating wealth is just gathering freedom. Everybody likes more freedom- for themselves. As someone eager to believe, I must use logic, and discernment, because I too have experience using my gifts for profit. It adds up to some crazy stories, and also regret.
I think the most important part is the remote viewing/psychic point because if that is true, then we can just use that to figure out the rest. It was super disappointing to not get that many questions with the person who worked with remote viewers and instead most of those segments were Eric Weinstein's talking about his feelings.
Thank you for playing our role in this conversation. Thanks to you too Jesse.
Watching Eric wrestle with how far behind our scientific community is from the reality of the situation is amazing. The shock, disbelief, anger at how much of our shared humanity is being gate-kept from the masses. Priceless - and necessary. Our scientists have been mostly complicit and manipulated, leveraging their "authority" to ostracize good-faith researchers like John Mack, Richard Dolan, and zillions of others. Great video, Jesse!
@9:00, bro IT IS AGREGIOUS. Its happening right now and its not for the best interest of humanity. its for the power and profits of the few who control it, obviously.
Epic statement, nice
EW doesn't even understand the difference between fusion and fission. Rebel without a cause.
@@alanrobinson7866 wrong, Eric is a legit physicist who understands the deepest theories we have. why do I suspect that is not the case for you?
@@squeakeththewheel in this instance it is the fact that he believes that atom weapons utilize nuclear fusion, rather than fission which is a schoolboy error. More generally he is someone who desperately wants to be famous for discovering something, but still hasn't figured out what.
I'm very sympathetic to Eric's skeptical reactions and it's great that he could both be honest about the reactions and also open to hearing more. His response about Hal not continuing a lucrative business on the stock market due to "lack of time" or "being exhausted" were quite strong I think. But at the same time, I think there's a danger in trying to suggest that something was impossible simply because we don't know how it was done. If the results were positive, the only possible explanations are that either there was a flaw in the experiment and information was relayed via other means (trickery, fraud etc) or there's a genuine effect here that we just don't yet understand. If you see an aeroplane flying through the air, you can't claim it's not doing that simply because you don't know how it's doing it. That response avenue is not open to you. Either you're being deceived, or it's your understanding of physics that needs to be revised. The same applies with remote viewing. The two options are that either the experiment was flawed and some form of deception was at play (whether intentional or accidental), or there's something real that needs further investigation. In both cases I don't think scientists should simply dismiss it and ignore it. And that's what bothers me about modern science (as much as I still respect and love what it does do well).
Hal is a scientist and if he was working very hard at his job, and he already knew remote viewing worked, and his superiors knew it worked, and it was classified anyway, who did he have to prove it to? Once the proof is done, it is done. Many people, once they have enough for themselves and their families, have little motivation for ever more money.
He (Eric), strikes me as a massive idiot. Period.
Eric couldnt comprehend why he was choosing science over money. He could get rich and say he did it with remote viewing and people would laugh at him and say he was just lucky. Or he can do the science, something he is actually passionate about, and prove it with the numbers that matter.
This is one of the best podcasts, 3rd or 4th time I have watched it.
I think an full interview between Eric Weinstein and Russel Targ (Hal's partner at SRI) could be the most interesting discussion i'd ever see! Eric rubbing shoulders with paraspsychology experts is something i hope to see more of in the future.
Great conversation. Watching Eric trying to stop his brain from exploding when Hal calmly discussed the validity and accuracy of remote viewing was brilliant.
I wonder what's so preposterous to him about the idea that consciousness is fundamental rather than matter?
@@gruppler Because as a materialist, such a thing completely obliterates his world view. I like Eric, and I think he's an honest man, but he can't make that jump because he has no tools to interpret the world from that perspective. If consciousness is fundamental, anything that can be thought is possible. What we have now is good descriptions of the way most things work from a materialist perspective. But if consciousness is fundamental, it effectively means all those weights and measures are illusions.
@@DAClarkism I can understand that. I have spent years looking from that perspective myself. But those weights and measures are no more illusory than physical reality itself; there are still fundamental principles upon which physical reality unfolds. So the materialist tools are not rendered obsolete, they are just a subset of the toolset needed to make sense of the bigger picture.
@@gruppler The fundamental problem is that material is objective while consciousness is subjective. Science only works on an objective level so to allow for any other origin makes science obsolete. It is also dangerous to allow for the subject to be the arbiter of reality. You are seeing this in the "gender debate" where the logic is that we have to accept a reality because a subject says so. You can easily take this logic to its absurd end and the world no longer makes sense.
Mr Weinstein is a "GEEZA" truely able to sit back and say "I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS" and yet listen to someone telling him "SHIT HE CAN'T BELIEVE" and if it turns out to be valid change his outlook.
38:43 It's terrifying for them, especially if you consider the scale of time.
Imagine if their civilization has existed for a million years in peace. Even if they have had contact with other civilizations, perhaps a mutual cooperation or peace, protectorate, whatever, has been in place and been stable for 100.000 years. Every single individual in their civilizations has been "born into" an age of peace and stability.
Now imagine human beings becoming capable of splitting the atom and spaceflight and arguably interstellar travel, in 100-200 years. We might be an extreme anomaly in the traditional development of galactic species.
it may take an average of 50.000 years to go from medieval age to spaceflight. We always assume we must be the average dumbest people in the universe. But what if we're not? What if we're gaining all this attention because our technological advancement has been unpredictably rapid?
So basically, their entire 1 million years of peace, is now forced to deal with an upstart primate that within 100 years attained the near capability to come visit with fusion bombs, without the experiential or evolutionary experience to have attained peace and stability in their own society...
They'd be utterly terrified. Even if they have advanced technology it doesnt necessarily equal invulnerable.
I have a smartphone that is more advanced than anything Emperor Nero had, i have more knowledge available to me in my internet connection than the entire library of Alexandria. I know more about the world than the Oracle at Delphi.
But they could still kill me with a sword from the back, or an arrow shot from the bushes.
Everyone is vulnerable to the unexpected, the unpredictable.
And humans are extremely unpredictable, because of our individual psyches.
I love this theory, and have also come to this idea on my own. Im glad someone else has discovered this path of thought.
You are absolutly right, it would be terrifying to discover an infantile species so utterly barbaric in their ways, have such great technological leaps in such a short amount of time. If they know what we do to our own race, imagine what we could do to a race not of our own.
It's my understanding that these entities were surprised by our progress and they weren't real happy about it. They made it clear that we weren't ready for interstellar space travel. And we were told to slow down & stay close to home. This would explain WHY humans haven't left earth's orbit in half a century. We've effectively been quarantined to the planet until we evolve a bit more.
@@MICHAEL_MAY_8 that makes a lot of sense.
@@MICHAEL_MAY_8 Not sure I understand your point. We have left Earth's orbit with probes and unmanned missions to Mars and Jupiter plus its moons. We've also used telescopes and radio telescopes to analyze the vast distances of space. Why would a quarantine be needed when we can't live outside our planet's atmosphere?
@@Miketar2424 - Man is not mean't to travel to the other stars because of the rules pertaining to THE ANCIENT COVENANT. He was originally meant to be suppressed and stay ignorant - as per the dark ages. However the Sirian Illuminati purchased us from our owners and tried to educate us with universities and schools.
It is the ET Illuminati who have given us all our present technology to see if it would awaken us to a higher level of awareness and spirituality. However as per the rules of the ancient covenant all we have done is use the technology for WAR and Oppression ( through making money ). So on that basis we are to be exterminated as a failed experiment.
Man was originally created as a blue print for how creation is to be set ultimately up - that is, as dysfunctional as possible as a species - to be suppressed and kept unaware - and to be used as a food supply to fuel his illegal THEOCRATIC designers; who have been holding control over creation for the last 8,000 years or so. Those THEOCRATIC designers want creation redesigned differently to it's original intention by the non-theocratic first Rulers.
Humans are not meant to exist, for we are an unnatural and a deliberately designed to be faulty, species.
We are now considered by creation's original owners as as unstable and obsolete species only fit for destruction. The Theocratic owners of humanity have since lost control of Creation.
I would truly love to see Jesse and Hal have a conversation without Eric’s interrupting all the time…
I hope we can see many more such conversations between Hal and Eric. I wished it would never end. Thank you.
Or just Hal. Eric goes on too much about how this stuff is blowing his mind, or whatever. I'd enjoy watching him more, if all that was cut out. Maybe in some years or so, he'll get over all of that, so he doesn't let his previous world view get in the way as often.
@@Love_N_Let_Live I agree, but on the other hand, it is kinda fun to witness.
My biggest fear would be our current power structure having access to this level of technology. Absolute nightmare scenario.
🧡💛💚💙 they already do . read into the UFO lore, there are many stories about the U.S. Government havent agreement with extra terrestrials about not blowing stuff up for example . but can we all really stick to it, i dont know
@@sommi888 stories are ... Stories.
@@Humanaut. yep i was in your camp , i thought "oh its just like 3 stories"..
then you dig in and see that there's over 5000 stories for the past 100 years .
a few people ? probably crazy
a few THOUSAND people with over 100-yeras of consistent story and pattern ? theres something there
@@sommi888 I am not sure if you are conflating two things here.
I do not contest the fact that there is a seemingly endless number of UFO/alien encounter Stories Spannung across all times and places.
I am just sceptical about the government having secret deals with extraterrestrials on how to run our government/planet.
The number of people having knowledge of such a thing would be extremely small.
And humans love to make up things about everything.
The number of stories regarding this is also not convincing for me since even 1000 stories could all on theory have the same source - just like a myriad news outlets all get their material from Reuters and it seems manifold but in reality they're all just Reuters information rebranded and not independent individual accounts of something.
@@Humanaut. There is no agreement or anything...But yeah , some lucky governments are in possession of the crashed ET crafts and that technology....
This is great. I really like seeing a full on 'materialist' with a massive knowledge base understanding go on to talk about these subjects (maybe with some resistance).
It really extinguishes ignorance in a both directions, and is freaking amazing insight for all the stored knowledge in all their thoughts.
One of the best interviews I've seen on the many subjects discussed. A great balance on tackling the skepticism vs the possibility of other theories. Great job!
The contrast you draw is between cynicism and the possibility of other theories, skepticism doesn’t exclude possibilities.
@@ZagrosŞêxbizin Yes, better stated 👏
i have been checking your channel daily after your last interview hinted at this one. LETS GO! Loving the the vids man, I am physics student with a deep interest in the topic. Your coverage is among the best.
%100 agree with you.
Same here. I've been scouring the internet, thinking that I missed something
Same
Same here!
We need more of this . I know there are a lot of smart people that are going to watch this that might be thinking about starting their own platform. Please share your knowledge, information , communication skills, or any other way you feel you can contribute. I owe so much of what I've learned in these last few years to a few Good Men that started their own platform, and invited many brilliant minds of today to sit down and have a conversation. Thank you all for sharing 🙏
Criminally underrated and under-viewed channel. Keep working hard and success will inevitably come. You seem like a pretty smart dude too.
Couldnt be more of a midwit take lol have you ever even entertained an original thought
Jesse, I am not familiar with your channel but your ability to host guest of this magnitude caused me to immediately subscribe.
Finally, a great host, with great guests, talking about a great subject.
What part of the video does he talk about Bitcoin and the “number go up”
Not that long ago people from these two different backgrounds couldnt have had this kind of conversation without it turning nasty. This is amazing.
I think Eric has been the victim of intense criticism, so he may have gained some empathy from that. He probably also wants to avoid more intense criticism of himself for associating with these topics.
What are you talking about?
@Call me by your name OK chosen one
It so funny to watch this, Eric is look how smart i am ….Hal is like you only know the half of it. It OBVIOUS he knows way more than he’s speaking about, a couple of times you can see him start to say something and then stop and then be quiet.
Totally agreed, especially when you consider how much of what Puthoff knows is highly classified and he can't even acknowledge it. You can tell when they bump up against classified material because Hal redirects the questions immediately.
If you want to know the truth go down the rabbit hole by clicking my face. Lots of filler information inside of there but the good stuff is mixed in. I have a All metals isolating magnet design here to increase the recycling and mining efficiencies of this planet. I have communicated with Eric before and told him about the reality of what string theory is and how it's related to dark matter creating an illusion of accelerating expansion of the universe... Light is Mass in motion. Dark matter absorbs the energies of light and other energies that passed through it... Dark matter is everywhere around our solar system it is increasing in density as this increases near our sun which is building the density of the dark matter the same thing is happening evenly everywhere... This creates an illusion of accelerating expansion of the universe. The problem with third dimensional existence is thinking that you can measure everything from a singular point in space and time just because we can see it. Objects in the mirror may be closer than they appear... I am a soul time traveler from constellation Aquarius.
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@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler damnnn 🤨
@0-0-0 QSR And if your wrong?
What was done with the Philadelphia experiment was to create a divided space using rotating magnetic fields with sufficient strength and a specific frequency. Look into Hilbert space and multi-dimensions. If you can create a magnetic bubble you can go anywhere in time and space almost instantaneously.
This is the first video I've ever seen of yours and I'm really impressed and I'm only 9 minutes into the video. I love how you've added images and music to enhance parts of this talk. Also the flashbacks to previous talks with Eric are awesome.
I find it distracted from the content not to mention editorializing.
Ditto. First timer. Is engaging.
NO!! Stop it with the X-Files music and sound effects! X-Files and shows like it are TV shows which is a TOTALLY different thing than reality, and when you add music and sound FX, it cheapens everything you're saying and makes it all seem trite and fake. Just imagine how ridiculous the Joe Rogan show would be if there was ominous music and sound FX.
Oh I’m pumped. Great stuff man and props to whoever is editing. Very specific, humorous, and visually compelling.
Jesse PLEASE KEEP THIS CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU THREE GOING! Absolutely fascinating! Thank you
More Hal Putoff please. He's so critical to everything surrounding this topic.
This was too short. I need more of this exact setup. Please do a part two! Thanks for the great content.
Thank you for covering this topic as much as you have been. Ya know, one really cool person to interview would be Jonathan Weygandt who got mixed in coming across a UAP crash during his time in the military. Heavily armed soldiers dressed in black camouflage from the Department of Energy came in quickly after and took control of the site and made his life a living hell. He's not a part of the UFO community and has nothing to sell. In fact, it's like pulling teeth getting him to talk about some aspects of it. He's definitely not one to conflate things. Just an idea, as it'd be cool to see if you could get an interview with him now that you're into working with whistleblowers.
God I wish I could sit and talk to Hal Puthoff. This was amazing we need more of this, real scientists asking a real scientist like Hal Puthoff their questions about this stuff
Puthoff is ANYTHING but a real scientist
Na he’d just babble on about space poltergeist & bore you to death.
@@Man_fay_the_Bru Oh dear 🙄
@@Man_fay_the_Bru seems to me like you're threatened because he refutes everything that holds your materialist house of cards up. Contrary to your opinion, Hals credentials i.e., government employment say otherwise.
I think at some point in Weinstein's life he decided he was going to be the smartest person in the room; whereas Puthoff decided that he was going to find out how the universe of natural phenomenon and consciousness work.
The difference in mindset and motivation is readily apparent. Would have liked to see an exlusively Hal Puthoff interview. I basically don't want to hear Weinstein speak again.
Jesse,
I so appreciate your bringing on Eric Weinstein and Hal Putoff. Eric is dynamic and so forthcoming about serious topics. I have been waiting for a forum such as this. Thank you all.
Hal knows everything, was THERE for the last 50-60 years but still wont spill the beans.
Listen carefully to his wording.
There are better videos. There are many more materials. There is more knowledge.
Thank you so much for this conversation. I had butterflies when Hal described the remote viewing experiment. I wish you’d given him more time to discuss his firsthand account. I’d ask Eric to please reserve his (deeply valuable) skepticism, giving folks all the rope they can carry (nodding like a sycophant while they spin their yarn) before dismantling the components. Patience grasshopper.
I have a book about remote viewing. It gave me goosebumps that it was discussed in this video... There is also astral projection
This is the guy who was spending government money "researching" a known scam artist, Uri Geller, who has been publicly debunked multiple times and is literally best known for spoon bending, lmao. His first hand experience of any of that is delusional at best if he thinks it was real. That very experiment was shut down because it was proven he was peeping through his fingers at peoples arm movements to see what number they were writing.
@@jetfu400 What's the title of this book about remote viewing?
Would like to hear more about Dr. Vannevar Bush and his Raytheon company and well as Battelle managing all the top secret national labs and their involvement in procuring scientists to work on these physics/engineering UAP projects.
It would be cool if you could get Eric Weinstein and Bob Lazar in the same room during an interview. Or even just interviewing bob would be cool!
One of this guys minds would literally explode, either wdinstainz mind would get blown or he'd cause Lazar get a life ending migrane
Great choice of guests never thought the two would go so well together, big fans of Eric and Hal!!😊
Don't you wish you could know and see everything Hal Putoff has experienced? Fascinating conversation.
Love it. I think Hal's ambivalence is good proof that there is something 'there'
Hal has an ambulance?
Great format with two experts going through stuff with the in person breakdown with Eric. I really think this is the best way to learn! Very indepth.
This is the most incredible conversation I have seen about UAP. This is what we need more of.
Indeed. I’ve waiting for 50 plus years for this level of discussion and exposure about a topic which had the ‘tin foil hat’ label. The tech’s real, it flew over my house in the U.K. at 1,000 feet one evening in the 70’s. Unfortunately of course the pool is contaminated with liars and has been for decades.
Great convo! When Eric explained things on the board it was cool - but very expected from him - and instead I would love Hal to explain more complicated things to Eric, so Eric could play the role of a scientific arbiter. Overall, it was a pleasure to watch, a truly great video in a series of many great videos! Thanks, Jesse, Eric and Hal! (And Bechstein in place of Nord is a fantastic upgrade!)
Yeah but it sounds like Hal is buried under a mile of NDAs and classified information, we weren't going to get any better from him. I loved the cutaways to Eric.
@@samus598 theoretical Physics can’t be under NDA. And from what I’ve heard it was Eric - not Hal - explaining the Physics.
@@amptiness2365 Physics, sure, but that's not the only thing explained during the podcast.
The more i see of Eric the more I love him. Seeing him play and talk about music is such a joy. This man understands so much about life. He’s a treasure.
10/10!!!
This is progress, no matter which way one looks at it.
These are the conversations that need to take place for humanity to progress.
Not calling Eric a "believer" but to even dare being curious on the phenomenon is brave and commendable.
Let Pandoras Box open!
Even as a casual observer, this is a big deal. When for years, our institutions have refused to even acknowledge certain things or even been actively engaged in suppression seeing these two come together is a sign things are changing. It’s just a casual conversation with nothing we haven’t already know but hopefully it’s just the beginning of new lines of inquiry without derision and career suicide. There are still massive barriers and roadblocks but can we all thank the internet for its great work? Thank you Mr Internet.
I do chuckle at EW’s “nope” attitude when it comes to the high strangeness. In the past, it was also a bridge too far for me. I would scoff at psychics and paranormal events but take UFO videos at face value. Is there a connection? Who knows. Hal certainly doesn’t believe it’s a waste of time and having followed the Skinwalker saga I’m simply convinced it should be pursued…with caution of course.
All it means is they’re at the last phase of out of this world threat for pumping fear and amassing control
institutions have refused to even acknowledge.......publicly.
As far as ‘nuts and bolts’ go the tech’s real…it flew over my house in the U.K. at 1,000 feet one evening in the 70’s. Everything else over and above that is speculation on my part.
This is one of the best group conversations I’ve ever heard on the subject.
this podcast provides no real evidence and hal puthoff says very little about a very little, oh your getting warmer your getting hotter ok your getting cold again !
Eric has been new to me.
I love his viewpoints. He adds new dimensions to tough questions and sometimes simple answers. Fun.
I miss Art Bell.
I love George Noory.
The show hasn't kept me after Art Bell. Not sure why. I listened since the early 90s. And for almost 30 years...every single night. The themes repeat a lot.
Eric adds other questions and ideas and he's direct and forward with his ideas. He doesn't always agree. And he describes why. He admits when he doesn't know too.
He has a gentle way to have conversations with ANYONE. Civil and has manners. Nice.
Art Bell had manners and open ears too.
Eric articulated exactly what I was thinking at 54:20. If you’re as sophisticated and ambitious as this guy, and find some magical method to generate unlimited capital, you’re going ride it until the wheels fall off. Even if youre not coin operated, use it to fund your own research centers like the world has never seen. Doesn’t add up.
i guess, but everyone has different priorities. for me i've always had the position that i want to be comfortable and not stress about money but i don't give a shit about being wealthy
Unless the government spends even more money to discredit your research
But he was too busy and tired to mint money.
Maybe he was told to stop doing it
There are actually people who have used the techniques to indeed get a lot of money.
Jesse you absolutely, completely put your finger on the right way to explore this topic. I would click "like" 1000 times if that worked. Please continue a series of interviews with you and Mr. Weinstein interviewing Mr. Putoff again, and any other top minds. Thank you.
Great video. First of all Hal Puthoff is a genius. Second, If his more fundamental theory in which Einsteinian GR is only a subset, it might explain why ET seems so much more interested in us once we started exploding nuclear weapons. Maybe these explosions are having a much more significant impact on spacetime, or it’s equivalent in his new theory, than we can possibly imagine at this time.
i think it's related to the great filter
they maybe know that by the time humanity is playing with energy and matter, they might soon start manipulating space-time and playing with vacuum energy
and well, if you heard of vacuum collapse, it's maybe the ultimate great filter
bc if humanity caused a vacuum collapse, it's the begining of the end of the whole universe
The universe is a "simulation" the greater cosmos are devoid of free actors to save processing power.
It’s difficult to think that a few tiny nuclear explosions would affect much when one considers what the average supernova can do. More likely it’s a simple “the kids have found the matches” scenario.
Jesse! Love the fact that you dressed "up" with dark socks. Seriously, though, MAJOR props for getting these two together!!!!
This was an amazing conversation. Thank you. Can’t wait to see you and Eric interview Eric Davis and Lue Elizondo!
Is this officially happening, or is it a wish?
I thought it was Luis Elizondo, not Lue? Did I miss something? Lol Elizondo is not a scientist and even scientists are not free from feeling or fault. There are so many variable aspects to this conversation and likely anyone in these supposed black budget projects won't be coming forward. Not the people that made real progress. Even now, especially now.
Elizondo won't reveal anything. That's my prediction. Just more tap dancing on the table. Have a seat and enjoy that show for all it is, aerobic and acerbic side-stepping.
You should interview Eric Davis as well, he could possibly answer more physics questions in regards to UAPs and their theoretical/hypothetical propulsion mechanics. I think Weinstein could ask some important questions on the topic as well.
Awesome conversation. Thanks for this!
It's one of the best podcasts I've seen in a long, long time. Respect to Jessie great content seriously.
There isn't a person on this earth that would abandon a project that was giving them a 70% success rate in the stock market. That's what I love so much about Eric.
He is not afraid to call BS on anyone including himself.
True, if you are a money grubbing, shallow charlatan. Puthoff had a lot of money at that time.
When you see a penny, do you feel any remote need to grab it before anyone else sees it? It's something that happens alot that ppl assume the mentality of those with millions or billions of dollars is similar in perspective to you. It's an easy thing to assume though, but what you would do with a 70% success rate in the market for profits is equivalent to a penguin collecting rocks. It's completely irrelevant and a waste of time for someone who absolutely does not need it the same way you do
@@Featheredblack I do agree. The money was not a driving force for Puthoff, but the research was - until he got tired of it.
@@perihelion7798 I wonder why he really got tired of it.
@@Featheredblack Because he had a great deal on his plate at that time, IMO.
One of the best conversations I’ve ever had the privilege of listening too 🙏
Love how Eric talks about extra temporal dimensions and gets repulsed by the notion of ufos being hidden from direct observation. He describes a potential rationale. Just funny how intelligence is a spectrum. We all have our own confirmation biases and unique perspective.
Omg this is so fabulous. Hal and Jesse are intuition dominant and Eric is sensory dominant and it’s wonderful and so fun to watch.
This was a GREAT conversation. Two knowledgeable people treating each other with respect, not always agreeing. Fabulous work. I didn’t understand most of it but questions I wanted asked.
I stumbled on your channel and I watched this based on Hal Putoff. I love the fact that all of you had so many layers of understanding.
I look forward to exploring your channel
You absolutely KNOW that if Eric is talking on a subject, his take is going to be intelligent, insightful & measured. He could read a telephone book & it would be fascinating.
So true.
The Ingo Swan story is incredibly fascinating, and absolutely as real as can be, those who look into it know
Yep, that's how I "know" that everything I want to believe in is real... I "know" it.
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The CIA worked him for 20 years because his abilities clearly weren't real... I like your inference skills .. shocked you even made it this far in life mate
You have the ur-stuff out of which everything emerges. The pre-Socratic Greek philosophers gave us that. Now we call it the quantum vacuum. Then Andrei Sakharov suggested that the crazy zoo of particles we see just condensed out, leaving behind a tension gradient that when superimposed IS gravity. Discuss!
Jesse, these programs are amazing! The research, content and production values 10/10
A wheel with other wheels attached, spinning separate from axis wheel, wot wud happen?
Thank you!!
That part about the remote viewing experiment Hal did before the CIA reached out to him was fascinating...especially the part where he said they took the guy's drawing explaining what he was doing / seeing / what was happening and that it's never been published.
"remote viewing" was a mind-game to lure the Kremlin into spinning their own wheels in the mud useless counter-research.
Who was financing Hal initially?
@@kitemanmusic I bet the CIA through some black funds
but his reason for not using the stock prediction method further seemed disengenius and evasive. so I call BS.
@@squeakeththewheel Thank god someone else smells BS on this guy. He also thought Uri Gellar knew real magic. I have never heard him distance himself from this but it apparently happened when he investigated Gellar in a govt. report. Gellar for the record was a magician doing store bought tricks.
I am so glad these conversations are being held and shared. Here's an understatement for us all, 'these are interesting times'.
I'm honestly amazed at how well put together your videos like this are... It's actually insane. Like the videography of this stuff rivals that of multi-million-dollar documentaries.
I'm thinking you must have an entire team that works on putting these together??
Can’t wait! Most anticipated interview for me hands down!
Same here!
Refreshing , interesting and too damn short. In all honesty I could of spent five to six hours with these guys. I just love the way that serious conversations are popping up all over regarding this fascinating subject.. the UFO phenomena needs more of this rather than the ancient aliens nonsense which only serves to make it a joke. I love how the pace of this subject has really increased in its quantity and quality that is much appreciated by myself.. Bravo 👏👏👏
all that and yet you (like a dozen others I see on yt comments every day) commit the most egregious assault on grammar; I would argue worse than 'conversate' 'irregardless' are those that say 'of' in place of "__'ve". Contractions are 2nd grade.😤
Oh god! You are so right. The Ancient Aliens guys frustrate me to no end. They take just about anything archeological and try to turn it into alien related phenomenon. When have UFOs ever needed runways or why would a Mayan king be an astronaut just because he happens to be depicted in a way similar to how our astronauts sit in a rocket. Everything they come up with is garbage. There are a few tantalizing clues from history, but the AA guys project constantly onto the past.
38:43 this is something so few "ufologists" actually consider, seriously.
Even if you have god-like technology, if you have a physical representation in this universe (or if fusion bombs affect things beyond the physical), you're STILL vulnerable to extreme unexpected bursts of energy, such as a fusion bomb.
People often misunderstand interstellar civilizations to equal invulnerability. Not necessarily so.
An arrow fired by a tribesman in New Guinea can still kill a "modern man" from Boca Chica that works on the Mars Program. Despite all his knowledge, despite his smartphone, despite his rocketry designs, he can still be killed by an arrow if it strikes him unawares.
Why wouldnt the same be true for an ET civilization? If we actually think seriously about it, as if it was real.
And IF crash retrievals are true, even if they werent accidental crashes but actually targeted by us, then that only proves that they are NOT invulnerable..
Imagine this. Imagine if all of human society gets free open access to antigravity and ftl technology as easily available as cars are today.. Even without factoring in fusion or antimatter bombs, EVERY "popular" ET species out there would be faced with MILLIONS, perhaps a BILLION human beings with personal spaceships buzzing around the galaxy..
Let's for the sake of simplicity say that Zeta Reticulii is a genuine homeworld of an ET civilization (as postulated by abductees regarding the Greys).
Now imagine a BILLION immature bumbling humans swarming their planet in personal janky spaceships liable to crash and malfunction at any time over their major cities, or even worse if their homeworld is now a ecumenopolis where each square kilometer is valuable developed real-estate, both for habitats and for industrial or research applications...
Now, add the knowledge that human beings are governed by free individual will, we're not a collective hive mind.
You can never, ever, know if that 1 human being coming towards your city, is one of the 98% friendly / neutral humans, or if its part of the 1-2% psychopathic humans with either religious or other motives that cause them to see your civilization as "demonic"..
Now imagine a fusion or antimatter device on said spaceship, to be dropped (or kamikaze'd) on your city, killing millions.
Even if you're a hyper advanced civilization, you're still vulnerable to surprise unannounced attacks, even by a lesser advanced, but more unpredictable, civilization of warring primates. Yes, your "motherships" might have incredible energy shields to prevent any damage, but EVERY square inch of your homeworld, or colonies, or orbital habitats, are not necessarily gonna have the same protection.
Our main battle tanks today have incredible capability to brush off an RPG round or even an anti-tank mine, without much damage.
But can our sky scrapers brush off an RPG round? Are our hospitals armored with kevlar and reactive plating?
No. Because they havent needed to be..... So even though we have the technology for incredible armour, most of our world isnt armoured.
And now consider if each individual in their civilization has eliminated death by old age, and eliminated aging at all.
Now, 1 death is the loss of a potential eternity of life experiences.
Arguably more tragic than 1 human death (since we're finite anyway, there's a finite potential that is lost).
I would not be surprised if advanced civilizations are much MORE concerned with avoiding violence, than we are in our current nihilistic existence of fragile mortality, which by its very finite nature breeds an inevitable "fuck it, yolo, i only have 2 years left to live anyway" attitude.
So we should not be so quick to dismiss the idea that ET civilizations might, actually be terrified, of our potential as human beings. Especially if their civilizations do NOT share our individuality, but are rather hive minds. They wouldnt comprehend how to deal with 8 billion individual beings with individual motives roaming the galaxy in spaceships capable of reaching their homeworlds and disturbing them on a daily basis, like bumbling tourists.
Just imagine if it was YOUR home.
Imagine if your city, wherever you live, suddenly faced 1 million immigrants, that weren't even human, had no clue about your culture or values, imposed themselves into your airspace and on your roads, peeked into your windows at night out of curiosity, flew around your balcony 24/7.
Your life would be fubar.
Perhaps some of the nuclear tests were attempts to bring down UFO's and capture them.
Okay this is gunna sound crazy, but iv had this idea nagging at me, that we actually reached a similar stage during the last ice age, and that we as a species ended up needing to be quarantined on this planet.
Interesting idea. I suspect it may be odder than that even. Sometimes I wonder if some sci-fi movies/series are representations of what’s happening. I remember someone who claimed to have been “abducted” (although they were described to be very gracious and accommodating) describing how the aliens he interacted with being fascinated with our relationships with animals and couldn’t believe that we had animals as pets and companions. I suspect if these ET civilizations exist, they may be fascinated with our different psychological makeups; especially our independence of thought. I watched a video of military guys being briefed about aliens, some of whom they were supposedly supposed to be fighting against (the informal character of the whole thing made me think it could be real since there was a lot of swearing and interruptions; someone faking something like that would likely make it feel more formal and intense). My point is I can’t help but wonder if the scenario depicted in Stargate SG1 might be a parallel to the reality of humans beings enlisted to help an alien civilization fight an ET war because we are both good at warfare but also have more independence of thought, allowing us to proceed with warfare in unique and unexpected ways that such an advanced civilization might not be capable of carrying out; while we’re also not inherently evil, which could make it possible for some of them to trust us to a degree. It’s obviously a highly speculative hypothesis, but portraying a somewhat real situation in fiction would provide plausible deniability for the powers that be. I was trained in Cultural Anthropology and I just get an odd feeling from much of our fiction that there’s more to what we’re fed as a civilization than just entertainment; as a cultural observer, I sometimes can’t help but think that there’s a purpose behind all these alien movies sometimes. But it’s just a thought, not a held belief or anything.
There was an interview on one of those UFO TV programs a few years ago. They mention an article in a military magazine Jane's Weekly, July 1996. It talked about an Antigravities Propulsion System, being built by SAIC, EG&G and Philips Labs, at Groom Lake. In that video the host did an interview with Retired Admiral Bobby Inman, who was on the Board of SAIC at that time.
Like a deer in the headlights he answered questions about the story in Jane's. I'll never forget this. He said, "I am on shaky ground here, but the craft is for Surveillance, Drug Enforcement and as an Attack Vehicle." I have this on VHS somewhere.
I worked for SAIC from 2008 to 2012, and during that time I tried to get a copy of that 1996 Janes and could not.
I tried again a few year ago and was told they don't have digital copies and not more hard ones.
Maybe one of you can get one.
Wow this was actually one of the most interesting discussions I've ever witnessed. Hal Puthoff bringing relatively verifiable data into the mix and Eric's mind trying to fit it into a 13 dimensional model. Really impressed that Eric was hanging around despite his sense of revulsion against everything he knows to be true. Amazing minds.