What a pleasure to hear and see this! Three of my favorite players, obviously playing with enthusiasm, at the highest level. Thanks for posting this, RC!
I was fortunate to have Tom as a bass teacher, theory and ear training teacher, and some specialized elective courses instructor. Just a class act all the way.
Good to see you back Cloud. Wow I haven’t seen this performance before. But I do love this rendition. I think it was on that class of 78 album. And wow Barry Kiener, Tom Warrington and Buddy were such a great trio. I just wish that Buddy did more songs in this style.
That album is one of my favorite recordings of all time. My friend had it on CD titled “The Greatest drummer who Ever Lived with The Best Band I Ever Had.”
Cloudview, this is one of the very few times where I can honestly say that Buddy was playing with two musicians that were actually on his level of musicianship and the results are breathtaking. Buddy seems extremely pleased with Tom and Barry's performances here. This was a real treat thank you for this gem!
Cloudview! So good to see you back with "new" Buddy Rich stuff! You da man! :-) Hope your still playing your butt off on those drums! Long live Buddy my friend. I must say though; as much as I like this performance, the studio version captures more of Buddy's subtlety on the hi-hat and snare and for me is more musically appealing. That version has more dynamic contrasts. Sometimes he got a little carried away on these live TV performances. Anyway, we share the same love for his singular genius.
The studio version is fabulous of course. And I really like the La Fiesta audio I posted of the Carson Show from Sept 6, 1977, just two days before this performance.
I was lucky enough to see Barry Kiner and Tom Warrington a number of times with Buddy's band in the 70s. They did the trio, and then Buddy would let Barry do a solo piece. It was such an exciting time. Thanks again Cloudview for posting this amazing performance.
New meaning to the description ' POWER TRIO ' I've said it before , I'll say it again , so sad about Barry. What an INCREDIBLE pianist !!! One of the greatest !!!
Woa,what an audio visual Display . First of seeing this one . Ala ,Trio Concerto .Keiner ,really had sum shit together, among the two other Virtuoso's . Bellisima Bravo charo ciao.
I remember thinking this was the best ever "Tonight Show" appearance. Three incredible players. Thank you for bringing this out of the memory banks into reality again.🎵🎼🎶💝
This actually isn't from The Tonight Show. It's from a different show I didn't want to name for fear of possibly having YT take it down if they received a copyright complaint.
It is so close to the T.S. one. Anyway, still incredible. Of course we are all lucky to have been able to see Buddy and his bands during these peak years. Well, they were all peak performances right?!
@@johnsandbo1 Yes, this is from just 2 days later. And yes, incredibly Buddy (and Kiener & Warrington) NEVER disappointed, NEVER had a bad performance or even average performance. Always top notch as you say. By the way, just in case you didn't know, I posted audio of the Carson performance that happened 2 days before this. Do a RUclips search: "Buddy Rich drum solo Tonight Show 1977 La Fiesta."
@@cloudview747 cloudy. I may have asked this before, so forgive me. I was reading Torme's book, and it mentioned one solo, the Newport Jazz Festival of 1965, which has never been posted, but it must exist. What do you know about this one? Buddy allegedly said he was done with that one, that everything he could say was said then, something like that. Would be magic to finally get to hear that.
@@jazzsnare Newport 65 is the Holy Grail of Buddy Rich audios for all BR collectors, for the reason you say. Buddy flat out said it was the drum solo peak of his entire career. What is frustrating is that in the Meriwether discography it says that the huge Newport 65 Fest was definitely professionally recorded. But it also says that only "select titles were released to Voice of America" for possible broadcasting. So who knows? Maybe the tune Buddy soloed in was never given to Voice of America? Or maybe it was, but Voice of America decided not to broadcast it? In any case, I have been collecting since the 70s, I have met and interacted with tons of BR collectors, and I have ALWAYS asked for Newport 65. Nobody has it.
@@cloudview747 Does anyone know if Cathy Rich lives in NY? Maybe she might have it? Someone had to have illegally taped it, also. Yeah, the Holy Grail, alright for us. He never slowed down, which at my age, is all the more shocking. "Just lucky, I guess." [What more could he have said to Queenie?]
other than the horrific decisions by musical ignoramuses to choose the worst camera angles at the worst possible times, combined with incredibly contrived and unnaturally loud applause mix levels, this is a fantastic performance by all three musicians. Buddy's groove with the high hat is phenomenal. But as we all know, we aren't surprised!
I have often been baffled by camera and direction choices on musical performances. In this case... it's like they always show the person who is not playing the thing you want to be seeing...they literally do the opposite. They show each person playing time, and cut away whenever something stands out... it can really eat at you if you let it. ... but holy cow are these three burning it up. I'm glad to have a video at all.
As I always say, I personally liked Buddy's sound on his Rogers set the most, around the first two years of his new big band. Even though I have two Ludwig kits myself and really like their products, I didn't love that sound for Buddy in the early 80's. Don't get me wrong, he still sounded fantastic...but different. After Rogers, I like his Slingerland sound best with (forgive me Bud Slingerland) the Fibes snare!l! His Slingerlands played by the master, sound great here in this video... snare too. I remember seeing an ad in a Gretsch book where he actually endorsed "K Zildjian" cymbals, but that was very short lived. That sound would be much too dry for him. Anyway, our terrific pal Cloudview continues to show his tremendous devotion yet once again with this astounding video. Thank you so much.
Cloudview, wonderful to see you back in action delivering yet another golden nugget from our Drum Wonder and National Treasure! For all those naysayers who say that Buddy always hogged the spotlight...this is all they need to see to knock down that house of cards. Buddy's solo was shorter then Tom and Barry's and you could see how happy he was working in this trio and he actually seemed to enjoy himself more in this format where he was able to sit back in the pocket and enjoy two other Masters at work. I can't recall ever seeing him so pleased at the end of a performance. Buddy was spectacular as always, but that bass solo by Tom is one of the best I have ever seen. Jaco Pastorius was an obvious influence on him. Tom was so musical and melodic here and Buddy seem to be so happy just going along for the ride keeping a perfect pulse and putting us on the edge of our seats. Just awesome! Btw, if anyone knows this you probably would Cloudview; this is 1977 and I was wondering if this was one of the very last times we would see Buddy on a Slingerland kit before the Ludwig endorsement with the 6 ply shells? I really think his slingerland 3 ply shells sounded better than the tone of the six ply Ludwig kit he had, but this Slingerland kit might be a 5 or 6 ply because they also switched to heavier shells with no reinforcement rings about the same time, but that particular detail would be a pretty difficult mystery to solve. However, this kit does sound closer to the six ply sound to my ears (maybe just tuned higher) but still cool to still see him behind a Slingerland kit in 1977. Sorry for the babbling just making up for lost time lol. Thanks, Bob
Definitely, Buddy loved MUSIC, and was very happy to sit back in the pocket, driving and supporting other great players. This was true by the way throughout his ridiculously long career. The date of this was Sept 1977. Wasn't Buddy's switch to Ludwig May 1978, when he did that unaccompanied solo on Carson?
@@cloudview747 Yes, you are correct Buddy's Ludwig kid didn't pop up until the middle of 78 I believe at least in videos so what you have here might be the very last actual film where buddy is playing a slingerland kit as a slingerland endorser at least on film anyway so that is very special I think kind of sad though because I like the slingerland drums better I think they just sounded better probably because these were still most likely 3-ply shells but even the slingerland 5ply shells I think sounded warmer than the Ludwig 6 ply just my opinion. I took the liberty of researching this show and looked up the Carson Show discography and this Show (#3759) was taped or aired on September 6th 1977 and featured George Carlin as well but I could not find the show as it has not been officially released in any of the Tonight Show remaster sets sadly, so this is probably the only copy floating around other than in the Time/Warner vault which there is an obvious mint Master just waiting to be made on disc. Who in the world knows when they will ever get around to that ever? Just like so many of the Buddy Hidden Treasures waiting to be excavated by hungry fans but this is pretty darn good and the audio is excellent so I am very grateful for this I just did a little scouting around to see if I could help in any way...you never know... I will play the role of Igor in your Castle anytime Cloudview :
@@polara01 Oh my good man. Too bad you didn't ask me about this first. This is not from a Carson Show. This is from 2 days later on Sept 8, 1977. I deliberately did not put the name of the TV show in my description for fear of having it taken down by the master tape holder complaining to RUclips. But if you go back and look in your discography you'll see what TV show this was.
@@cloudview747 Oops! Ok, mums the word on that didn't realize that. Also didn't realize you had that one and checked it out and I actually like this one a little better I think they were a little bit looser here and really shredded... I only looked at the Carson Show discography so I'll have to dig in to find out where this came from thanks for letting me know I will still try to research anything and of course that you know if I find anything I'm pretty good at doing research maybe someday I can return a favor and find something special to bring back as an offering. Just knowing how many years it took you to compile all of this it is truly amazing and your channel been really helping to keep me motivated musically in a world that is falling apart around us. Peace, Bob
Man when I saw Barry Keiner play at Disneyland in the summer of 1976, He blew my mind. He was such a great player and was so full of energy playing his solos. So sad he passed away at the age of 30 of a stroke in 1986. Such good talent he had.
@@junglismonk4256 There's definitely a studio version of La Fiesta on the Buddy Rich Class of '78 LP. Here's that track as posted on RUclips: ruclips.net/video/fEh6msPGAuc/видео.html Beyond that I'm not sure about trio tunes recorded to vinyl, but I'll Reply again if I think of any.
![Buddy Rich Big Band • “Winding Way/West Side Story/Drum Solo” • 1986 [Reelin' In The Years Archive]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8o7HCuK65JM/mqdefault.jpg)
That was breathtaking!!! Just phenomenal playing by all three of them!
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Smokin’ Hot Clean Jazz!☝️👨🎨🎨🎼👍🥰💫🎇🎆🌠🌅
Yes!!
Thank you for this. So happy to see it again. BR looks really healthy here.
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Great performance. Buddy and the guys are always terrific. RIP Barry Kiener.
What a pleasure to hear and see this! Three of my favorite players, obviously playing with enthusiasm, at the highest level. Thanks for posting this, RC!
😊
I was fortunate to have Tom as a bass teacher, theory and ear training teacher, and some specialized elective courses instructor. Just a class act all the way.
How wonderful! I love Tom's playing.
That is a funky funky man on the fretless P. Wow.
His foot was just as unbelievable as his left hand
Good to see you back Cloud. Wow I haven’t seen this performance before. But I do love this rendition. I think it was on that class of 78 album. And wow Barry Kiener, Tom Warrington and Buddy were such a great trio. I just wish that Buddy did more songs in this style.
Glad you like this!
That album is one of my favorite recordings of all time. My friend had it on CD titled “The Greatest drummer who Ever Lived with The Best Band I Ever Had.”
Buddy had the wow-factor.
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Cloudview, this is one of the very few times where I can honestly say that Buddy was playing with two musicians that were actually on his level of musicianship and the results are breathtaking. Buddy seems extremely pleased with Tom and Barry's performances here. This was a real treat thank you for this gem!
Wish it was in better quality, but you are very welcome.
Cloudview! So good to see you back with "new" Buddy Rich stuff! You da man! :-) Hope your still playing your butt off on those drums! Long live Buddy my friend. I must say though; as much as I like this performance, the studio version captures more of Buddy's subtlety on the hi-hat and snare and for me is more musically appealing. That version has more dynamic contrasts. Sometimes he got a little carried away on these live TV performances. Anyway, we share the same love for his singular genius.
The studio version is fabulous of course. And I really like the La Fiesta audio I posted of the Carson Show from Sept 6, 1977, just two days before this performance.
I was lucky enough to see Barry Kiner and Tom Warrington a number of times with Buddy's band in the 70s. They did the trio, and then Buddy would let Barry do a solo piece. It was such an exciting time. Thanks again Cloudview for posting this amazing performance.
I am SO happy you got to see these musical masters live multiple times! 😊
Superb. What tv show is this?
New meaning to the description ' POWER TRIO ' I've said it before , I'll say it again , so sad about Barry. What an INCREDIBLE pianist !!! One of the greatest !!!
Barry was so very special.
You finally found the video to this one! I thought it was a lost cause after searching everywhere. Thanks!
Yes, finally. It sure took a while!
Insane!!!!!!¡
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This needs to be restored for posterity!
Agreed. I sure wish someone had this in excellent quality and would post it!
Woa,what an audio visual Display . First of seeing this one . Ala ,Trio Concerto .Keiner ,really had sum shit together, among the two other Virtuoso's . Bellisima Bravo charo ciao.
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Is this from the Dinah Shore Show?
Yes.
@@cloudview747 thanks very much!
Brilliant
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I remember thinking this was the best ever "Tonight Show" appearance. Three incredible players. Thank you for bringing this out of the memory banks into reality again.🎵🎼🎶💝
This actually isn't from The Tonight Show. It's from a different show I didn't want to name for fear of possibly having YT take it down if they received a copyright complaint.
It is so close to the T.S. one. Anyway, still incredible. Of course we are all lucky to have been able to see Buddy and his bands during these peak years. Well, they were all peak performances right?!
@@johnsandbo1 Yes, this is from just 2 days later. And yes, incredibly Buddy (and Kiener & Warrington) NEVER disappointed, NEVER had a bad performance or even average performance. Always top notch as you say.
By the way, just in case you didn't know, I posted audio of the Carson performance that happened 2 days before this. Do a RUclips search: "Buddy Rich drum solo Tonight Show 1977 La Fiesta."
Great all around. Especially Buddy's unusual solo. It's not that often to hear him in 3. PLayed the entire song in the solo.
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@@cloudview747 cloudy. I may have asked this before, so forgive me. I was reading Torme's book, and it mentioned one solo, the Newport Jazz Festival of 1965, which has never been posted, but it must exist. What do you know about this one? Buddy allegedly said he was done with that one, that everything he could say was said then, something like that. Would be magic to finally get to hear that.
@@jazzsnare Newport 65 is the Holy Grail of Buddy Rich audios for all BR collectors, for the reason you say. Buddy flat out said it was the drum solo peak of his entire career. What is frustrating is that in the Meriwether discography it says that the huge Newport 65 Fest was definitely professionally recorded. But it also says that only "select titles were released to Voice of America" for possible broadcasting. So who knows? Maybe the tune Buddy soloed in was never given to Voice of America? Or maybe it was, but Voice of America decided not to broadcast it? In any case, I have been collecting since the 70s, I have met and interacted with tons of BR collectors, and I have ALWAYS asked for Newport 65. Nobody has it.
@@cloudview747 Does anyone know if Cathy Rich lives in NY? Maybe she might have it? Someone had to have illegally taped it, also. Yeah, the Holy Grail, alright for us. He never slowed down, which at my age, is all the more shocking. "Just lucky, I guess." [What more could he have said to Queenie?]
other than the horrific decisions by musical ignoramuses to choose the worst camera angles at the worst possible times, combined with incredibly contrived and unnaturally loud applause mix levels, this is a fantastic performance by all three musicians.
Buddy's groove with the high hat is phenomenal. But as we all know, we aren't surprised!
Agree on all points.
I have often been baffled by camera and direction choices on musical performances. In this case... it's like they always show the person who is not playing the thing you want to be seeing...they literally do the opposite. They show each person playing time, and cut away whenever something stands out... it can really eat at you if you let it. ... but holy cow are these three burning it up. I'm glad to have a video at all.
As I always say, I personally liked Buddy's sound on his Rogers set the most, around the first two years of his new big band. Even though I have two Ludwig kits myself and really like their products, I didn't love that sound for Buddy in the early 80's. Don't get me wrong, he still sounded fantastic...but different. After Rogers, I like his Slingerland sound best with (forgive me Bud Slingerland) the Fibes snare!l! His Slingerlands played by the master, sound great here in this video... snare too. I remember seeing an ad in a Gretsch book where he actually endorsed "K Zildjian" cymbals, but that was very short lived. That sound would be much too dry for him. Anyway, our terrific pal Cloudview continues to show his tremendous devotion yet once again with this astounding video. Thank you so much.
🙂
Yah and they say drake is a genius what a joke.
Cloudview, wonderful to see you back in action delivering yet another golden nugget from our Drum Wonder and National Treasure!
For all those naysayers who say that Buddy always hogged the spotlight...this is all they need to see to knock down that house of cards. Buddy's solo was shorter then Tom and Barry's and you could see how happy he was working in this trio and he actually seemed to enjoy himself more in this format where he was able to sit back in the pocket and enjoy two other Masters at work. I can't recall ever seeing him so pleased at the end of a performance. Buddy was spectacular as always, but that bass solo by Tom is one of the best I have ever seen. Jaco Pastorius was an obvious influence on him. Tom was so musical and melodic here and Buddy seem to be so happy just going along for the ride keeping a perfect pulse and putting us on the edge of our seats. Just awesome!
Btw, if anyone knows this you probably would Cloudview; this is 1977 and I was wondering if this was one of the very last times we would see Buddy on a Slingerland kit before the Ludwig endorsement with the 6 ply shells? I really think his slingerland 3 ply shells sounded better than the tone of the six ply Ludwig kit he had, but this Slingerland kit might be a 5 or 6 ply because they also switched to heavier shells with no reinforcement rings about the same time, but that particular detail would be a pretty difficult mystery to solve. However, this kit does sound closer to the six ply sound to my ears (maybe just tuned higher) but still cool to still see him behind a Slingerland kit in 1977.
Sorry for the babbling just making up for lost time lol. Thanks, Bob
Definitely, Buddy loved MUSIC, and was very happy to sit back in the pocket, driving and supporting other great players. This was true by the way throughout his ridiculously long career.
The date of this was Sept 1977. Wasn't Buddy's switch to Ludwig May 1978, when he did that unaccompanied solo on Carson?
@@cloudview747 Yes, you are correct Buddy's Ludwig kid didn't pop up until the middle of 78 I believe at least in videos so what you have here might be the very last actual film where buddy is playing a slingerland kit as a slingerland endorser at least on film anyway so that is very special I think kind of sad though because I like the slingerland drums better I think they just sounded better probably because these were still most likely 3-ply shells but even the slingerland 5ply shells I think sounded warmer than the Ludwig 6 ply just my opinion.
I took the liberty of researching this show and looked up the Carson Show discography and this Show (#3759) was taped or aired on September 6th 1977 and featured George Carlin as well but I could not find the show as it has not been officially released in any of the Tonight Show remaster sets sadly, so this is probably the only copy floating around other than in the Time/Warner vault which there is an obvious mint Master just waiting to be made on disc. Who in the world knows when they will ever get around to that ever? Just like so many of the Buddy Hidden Treasures waiting to be excavated by hungry fans but this is pretty darn good and the audio is excellent so I am very grateful for this I just did a little scouting around to see if I could help in any way...you never know... I will play the role of Igor in your Castle anytime Cloudview :
@@polara01 Oh my good man. Too bad you didn't ask me about this first. This is not from a Carson Show. This is from 2 days later on Sept 8, 1977. I deliberately did not put the name of the TV show in my description for fear of having it taken down by the master tape holder complaining to RUclips. But if you go back and look in your discography you'll see what TV show this was.
@@polara01 By the way, here is audio of Carson Sept 6, 1977 which I posted a long time ago:
ruclips.net/video/BfMdX8MoU-U/видео.html
@@cloudview747 Oops! Ok, mums the word on that didn't realize that. Also didn't realize you had that one and checked it out and I actually like this one a little better I think they were a little bit looser here and really shredded... I only looked at the Carson Show discography so I'll have to dig in to find out where this came from thanks for letting me know I will still try to research anything and of course that you know if I find anything I'm pretty good at doing research maybe someday I can return a favor and find something special to bring back as an offering. Just knowing how many years it took you to compile all of this it is truly amazing and your channel been really helping to keep me motivated musically in a world that is falling apart around us. Peace, Bob
Man when I saw Barry Keiner play at Disneyland in the summer of 1976, He blew my mind. He was such a great player and was so full of energy playing his solos. So sad he passed away at the age of 30 of a stroke in 1986. Such good talent he had.
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he died of a heroin over dose.
@@bizyz That’s right weak human!! all that talent gone to waste (Wasted)
@@sticktrikI feel bad too.
Excellent!
That it is!
I honestly checked my playback speed at 4:57.
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Xxtremely Stimulating. Was any of this stuff put to vinyl?
Do you mean this exact performance put to vinyl, or just this song (different performance) recorded by the BR trio and put to vinyl?
@@cloudview747 Hello Cloud. I mean vinyl recordings of him playing in the trio at this period 1975 - 81
@@junglismonk4256 There's definitely a studio version of La Fiesta on the Buddy Rich Class of '78 LP. Here's that track as posted on RUclips: ruclips.net/video/fEh6msPGAuc/видео.html
Beyond that I'm not sure about trio tunes recorded to vinyl, but I'll Reply again if I think of any.
@@cloudview747 Thanx for the headsup.I`ll be sure to check that lp out. X
Holy Crap!!!!
Yeah. Not bad, huh?
@@cloudview747 FANTASTIC!
@@rickdavenport9538 😊