Great review Mike, thanks for taking the time to make it. Looks like a great board, just wish more of them had a BIOS flashback button (as well as a blacked out IO shield lol). Thats a good warehouse deal find but even at full price I think this is a great board. Aye its got brown tracers but once its in the case Im sure it would be difficult to notice. Fingers crossed that the markets start to stabalise soon so we can actually put some components in these lol. Cheers dude, be seeing YOU in the next one :-)
@@mikesunboxing How is it with a Ryzen 5 5600G. This APU game along with Gen 4 Ryzen series CPU's but as i see is based on Gen 3, so shouldn't it be fine out of the box?
Thanks for the great video. Great to see that there are some B450 boards that are allowing the leap to the 5000 series CPU. Now if we would just find a CPU...
I got it last year after noticing it's basically a cheaper, more boring-looking B450 Tomahawk Max. Paired it with a 1600AF, RX570 8GB and 16GB of DDR4 3200mhz and all worked well out of the box and even managed to push the CPU to 3.8ghz at 1.3V with a custom tower cooler. I've never seen the VRM temp go over 67C even on hot summer days during OCCT which is amazing. I'm very happy with it overall, tho it has one big flaw which is the on-board audio. I have some 24 Ohm Sony headphones and they simply don't get loud enough for my liking. Looking to buy a USB or PCI-E sound card simply because of that. This won't be a problem for lower impedance headphones as my other smaller headphones all get loud enough. Very solid board for the price and the lack of RGB stuff is actually a bonus for me as I prefer the sleeper look.
Ive been thinking of getting this motherboard because im still on A320. Along with this mobo i might get the 5000D from corsair. another reason I will probably get this board is to upgrade to a 5600x in the future
Thanks for the video. I haven’t built a system for about 15 years and it’s been a bit of a learning curve. Looking at what’s out there I sort of came up with this board so your video has been a great help.
Keep it up and thanks for the great review! Im building a cheap mining rig but I dont know what to choose between this one or gaming plus max (also did see your review) thanks
Juuuust in case someone has this board and wants to boost the system with a 5800x3D: I have it (+ 6700XT GPU) and it works flawlessly with the latest bios version. Yes the VRM is fairly budget but its really good for what it is and if I run a stresstest on all 8 cores the "system" (HW monitor) still stays cool at around 40°C maximum (if thats the correct one to look at, the rest is even cooler). But I gotta say my old big tower has a very good air flow. For gaming its totally fine anyways, since only 1-2 cores are used in probably 99,99% of all games. My 2x8GB RAMs run at 3600mhz on XMP profile 1 without any issues whatsoever. So it works perfectly fine with the 5800x3D. If there was a significant performance boost from pcie3 (b450) to pcie4 (b550) I would switch to a b550 board, but since there isnt, I stick to this very stable and durable budget board 😉
Great video, very in depth and right on! I just fell on this video and while I do realize it's a little over a year ago, I wanted to say that's when I purchased this board as I was looking for a budget build. It's an amazing board that also permitted me this year to upgrade from a Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 9 5900 without any problems, buying it a whole new life and saving me from buying a new system. Very robust and easy bios upgrades. Happy to have discovered your channel.
Definitly worth it. I just built a gaming pc with that board for budget reasons. After bios flash (thx for your video... ;) ) with a 5600G pretty fine for gaming on low specs until GPU prices will fall.
I use this non max variant for my rig with ryzen 5 2600 in it. And it handle the undervolt and mild overclock so well, also oc ram with xmp and get from 3000mhz to 3200mhz is so easy.
Great stuff just bought waiting on delivery coupled with 16 di 3200 and a ryzen 2200 g for a media pc in the guest room all on your review also love the idea that old stuff is still relevant thanks for the content
Hi Mike! I do not understand English at a good level and I do not know electronics, so I would like to ask: Can i connect 5x 4pin fans to this motherboard to cool the entire computer?or are each of these sys_fan for something different to cool? Thanks for answer 🥰
hello :) great job on the review, very detailed and useful, i have only one question, i have the msi b450-a pro (non max version) and i am planning on upgrading my cpu, currently i'm between the 5600x and 5800x, and i'm leaning towards the 5800x for productivity reasons (editing photos/videos, adobe premier etc. ). you mentioned that your limit on this MAX version would be the 3900x, do you think i would be safe with the 5800x? more specifically, are the VRM's good enough for it? heard in many places that it is a hot cpu, and i'm afraid of it being throttled, also, not planning to overclock, strictly stock speeds. thanks and have a wonderful day :)
Mike good job with this review, i have a question can i run AMD RYZEN 7 3800XT with this mother ? (just stocked i dont need overclocking) I understand that with a bios update it should be possible, im right ?
My asrock x570 phantom died, I bought one of these for $20 and I'm gaming again. It's a cheap ass motherboard but it saved my life and is perfect for a budget build
Hi mike, I currently have this motherboard working with r5 3600. I'm planning to change to r9 3900x. Would you recommend it? If so, what cooling I should use for the CPU?
Great video, as someone with a lower end board (b450 Tomahawk max + r5 3600) i can see that is not quite as good but the price makes up for it, the Tom Max is still around £90 new!!
I hope that helps people who want to try a set up with similar builds: I decided to upgrade my over 10 year old system with this board, a ryzen 5 5600g CPU(+ onboard GPU) and suitable DDR4 RAMs. Since it wouldnt identify the CPU out of the box it needed to be updated. So I flashed it with an old USB 2.0 stick formated in FAT32 with the newest 7B86vMF bios update (no beta). It worked out perfectly, I just had to change some basic settings in the bios for it to start windows. The only thing is that the RAMs are downgraded to 2667 MHZ instead of 3600MHZ (I think the board only supports up to 3200, not 100% sure tho). I wonder what setting I could try to make it work at 3200MHZ since it doesnt run stabily under 3D conditions with the settings I tried..All in all its a great and fairly cheap upgrade for me and I can still buy a better graphics card in the future when I need to.
is the ryzen 5 1600 compatible with this motherboard? cause i just ordered them and want to make sure, also would I have any problems with the bios update?
hey mike, awesome review as always and not so "mainstream"... its always nice to know of cheaper options rather than the high end stuff all other youtubers suggest... would so just get on of these to go with my msi a320m a proMAX... lol actually like the brown to it and don't care for wifi and blue tooth... real gamers don't use wifi :P
I think it's great for a budget build. I wanted to get started with AM4, got it used for cheap with 1600AF and 2x8gb RAM 3200, all still on warranty. Later I can upgrade to 5600 when it gets even cheaper and B550 with PCIe 4 and better audio, LAN and RGB header. Out of all brands, B450's from MSI have the best VRM temps. Higher models of B450 from MSI, Gaming Max and Tomahawk don't offer anything more than A Pro, apart from better looks. They are still PCIe 4, still budget audio and LAN, still no 5V RGB. In 2022, because of its low price, A Pro is the only B450 that makes sense.
Thanks for the info , I’m thinking to a low budget but decent build with this motherboard , a ryzen 3 2200g Vega 8 graphics , 2x8 ripjawsV 16gb ram , a 450w Power supply,one ssd and one hdd and a cougar mx 410gb to put them in will it work or will it blow up in my face xD I’ll upgrade later with 800w power and a gpu .
Just managed to pick up one of these for £37 on ebay. Needed a new slot for another GPU and upgraded to the ryzen 5 3600 which the old board didn't get along with. Great video, considering myself very lucky for the steal price.
@@mikesunboxing Right now my case is pretty bad but until I get the Ryzen 7 I'll get a new PC case with 4 fans 3 in the front and one in the back will that be enough to cool the vrm below 80 ?
First of all, great Video! Can you tell me if there are any limitations regarding GPU´s? Would it be possible for me to -someday- upgrade to a rtx3070 for example? Keep up your good work!:)
It's December 2023 and I was looking for a faster second video editing system with pretty much the same software configuration as my current 2016 system running Windows 7. This answers right away my choice for this MSI B450 board as it is one of the few boards still for sale that supports Windows 7 (MSI still has W7 drivers for it available for download). I picked up a new board for just over 60 euros, along with a 2nd hand Ryzen 7, 2700x processor and a GTX-1070. It may not sound very fast these days, but it is a good deal faster than my current system, which is a MSI 17OA PC MATE with an i5-6400 and a GT-730. So in cases such as these, the B450 is still worth it, even in 2023 and I plan to use it for several more years to come.
@@mikesunboxing I think it will. This board is now rapidly going out of stock, but there is an alternative with the same chipset, the Gigabyte AORUS Elite V2. Anyone still interested in these boards shouldn't wait too long if you want a new one.
@@mikesunboxing actually was, gonna keep it ^^ don‘t know if it‘s the best option tho i wanna run a ryzen 5 3600x and a 3070, it‘s definitely compatible but i don‘t know if it bottlenecks the gpu. just wanna make sure cause i earn abt 400€ a month and can‘t afford to waste it on the wrong hardware. mbd has only been 50€ and i can still return it so advoce would be awesome :)
@@kiddketathereal This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/gaeeDPw
Thanks for great info. Does that mean the If use with a Ryzen 5 5600G or 7 5700G then if adding a GPU the PCIe/GPU will suffer from the way the board share the capacity?
@@mikesunboxing Thanks for your reply. Can you suggest some good value motherboard for Ryzen 7 5700G? Pc is on and online 24/7. Most used for browsing and media and less gaming. I do not like RGB.. so thats not a priority at all.
So I currently have an Asus a320 m-k I just bought the MSI b450 vdh? Something like that... this one your reviewing!...is this motherboard a good solid upgrade to what I have or should I get like a tomahawk or something a little better?...
Hi, do you think this board will work with a 5800x with the latest bios update? MSI says its compatible but im worried about it overheating the mobo or bottlenecking, would u recommend a 5600x instead? I currently have a 2700x and need a major upgrade.
For £70 from amazon i cant complain. I bought mine just before Christmas for my ryzen 2700. Only problem ive had was my bios channging its language to chinese, was resolved with a reset.
Hey mike, doing my first pc build ever, i got a ryzen 5 1600 processor, the msi b450 like in the video, gigabyte vega 56 gpu, and 2x 8 gbram is 16 gb ram ok on this build or ok to add anouther 16 gb ram?
dear mike.. i want to ask your opinion regarding pin on mobos.. Does motherboard with 4 pin power considered less stable/less superior/less durable compare than motherboard with 8pin??
Can I use 2,5" SSD with this motherboard? Also would I have to do something extra to make it work with ryzen 5 5600g? Also would MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX II be a better choice than this one ?
So i want to build my first pc an i've already bought this motherboard. i concider buying a Corsair 275R airflow PC Cace which comes with 3 pre installed fans. i would also like to buy one rgb ring fan and place it to the rear of the case. Would this be possible? Will the cable of the fan reach the connector of the motherboard and be compatible? Should it be 3 or 4 pin? And if so what fan would you recommend me. I think one rgb ring fan is enough for my taste.
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Mike, I just bought one of these off of Ebay for about $25.00US used, sold as is... I'm finding a lot of these boards are purchased by people who don't know how to PROPERLY build a computer and they seel these board as damaged when in fact they aren't... Most of the time its the user who is trying to put in a unsupported processor, or memory... or not installing the unit right.... Finding good deals on someone elses mess.... easy way to build a inexpensive computer when you can get the motherboard for a steal!
Yeah I did go through a stage of looking for “dead” boards to buy cheaply but was getting outbid a lot, and there were limits to what money I would risk
@@mikesunboxing I always do the "Buy Now" option, its a gamble, but most of the time these boards work fine once you get the bios updated and the right processor. I'm hoping this gamble pays off!
@@mikesunboxing you wouldn't know where to get the I/O shield for these? I've been looking on Ebay and can't find the right style... is there another model that uses the same shield?
Because I see the option “enable safe mode.” I press number 4 on my keyboard and all it says is Pro series (the brand of my motherboard) and is stuck like that forever.
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something is not right... box is "B450 A Pro MAX", but board is "MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX".. there is a big difference because PRO MAX is only two ram and no VRM heatsink EDIT: oh I see, one you show is ATX, the crappy one is mATX... what a bumblebee, two boards with exactly same name - one is decent other is trash
@@mikesunboxing I just got the MSI AMD B450 A Pro Max for $45 so I could not resist it. I consider putting a r5 5600G on it instead of r7 5700G. I got a great deal on a corsair RM 850 and Corsair 100R case $80 so even it was not the plan when planning the build this will be very budget build!!
@@mikesunboxing thanks! Also I'm pairing this up with a 5 3600 and 32gb cosair Vengeance ram and GTX 970 do you think it's a good build for gaming and 3d modeling?
Good afternoon... Want to ask the recommended mobo for amd Rzyen 5 4600g, between MSI B450 A Pro Max, Asus Tuf gaming b450, and asrok b450m steel legend. Thank you 🙏.
Hey man I found a pre-built from a friend who works for a PC store whaddya think? Specs: MB: MSI B450 M-Pro CPU: Ryzen 5 3600x GPU: RX 570 4Gb Psu" Cooler Master 600W RAM: 16Gb (8×2) Case: MSI forge with 3 fans and an extra 2 added Price: 650 dollars
@@mikesunboxing is there a way to control ARGB fans if you buy a controller? Or am I just better off buying something like a Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro or something
@@breht a cheap remote controlled ARGB fan hub will be a good idea, the gamemax one i reviewed is a good option and the saharagaming one is also quite good but limited to sahara fans
i have this board with Ryzen 5 5600 (not G or X) , the cooling is the problem every time play game M.2 temp always reach 44. what best solution change exhaust fan or CPU Cooler
My MSI B365M displayed a red CPU error light and would not POST.. There have been other reports the B450 series also has this problem. Waiting on a replacement / refund.
Slightly wish I had seen this before buying this motherboard as a replacement. I was looking for RGB and noticed there is a header but it isn't connected to anything..
I don’t think at the moment amd is the way to go full stop at the moment. I was wanting a 5600x but it’s simply ridiculous to get and the ones you can get are just silly prices, even stuff like 3600 and 3700 are silly money considering they are last gen parts. I managed to snag a i7 10700f for 230£ with a msi b460 torpedo board and dare I say that intel are offering more bang for buck at the moment.
Hello. Good job. I have a question I'm going to build a gaming pc so my budget is 500 I have a monitor keyboard mouse everything Except for the pc can you please give me a good solution. I don't won't used items. I am thinking to buy a cpu whit graphics and don't buy a gpu because of the budget. And i was thinking about this motherboard and some other stuff. Please help me. 🙂
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Anything with Pro Series in the title is for me! Great video, thanks Mike.
Right on! thanks Paul i am slowly trying to award myself the "pro" title but mostly failing 😍
Great review Mike, thanks for taking the time to make it. Looks like a great board, just wish more of them had a BIOS flashback button (as well as a blacked out IO shield lol). Thats a good warehouse deal find but even at full price I think this is a great board. Aye its got brown tracers but once its in the case Im sure it would be difficult to notice. Fingers crossed that the markets start to stabalise soon so we can actually put some components in these lol. Cheers dude, be seeing YOU in the next one :-)
haha i'll be seeing you, through the window :-)
@@mikesunboxing How is it with a Ryzen 5 5600G. This APU game along with Gen 4 Ryzen series CPU's but as i see is based on Gen 3, so shouldn't it be fine out of the box?
Thanks for the great video. Great to see that there are some B450 boards that are allowing the leap to the 5000 series CPU. Now if we would just find a CPU...
hi sky! there are still some good bargains in the b450 range, but like you said the processors are the sticking point
Use the ryzen 5 3600
You seem to come to me at the perfect time, EVERYTIME
Lucky coincidence :-) Thanks for watching!
I got it last year after noticing it's basically a cheaper, more boring-looking B450 Tomahawk Max. Paired it with a 1600AF, RX570 8GB and 16GB of DDR4 3200mhz and all worked well out of the box and even managed to push the CPU to 3.8ghz at 1.3V with a custom tower cooler. I've never seen the VRM temp go over 67C even on hot summer days during OCCT which is amazing. I'm very happy with it overall, tho it has one big flaw which is the on-board audio. I have some 24 Ohm Sony headphones and they simply don't get loud enough for my liking. Looking to buy a USB or PCI-E sound card simply because of that. This won't be a problem for lower impedance headphones as my other smaller headphones all get loud enough. Very solid board for the price and the lack of RGB stuff is actually a bonus for me as I prefer the sleeper look.
yeah i agree totally
How do you connect it to wifi?
Ive been thinking of getting this motherboard because im still on A320. Along with this mobo i might get the 5000D from corsair. another reason I will probably get this board is to upgrade to a 5600x in the future
I wouldn't get this motherboard with the 5000 series but it's up to you
I agree with Waldo the 5000 series really is suited to b550 and upwards
ahhh ok
Appreciatting the BIOS flash button in MOBO. Thanks for this great review, Mike!
BIOS flashing is going to be fun times when the next bunch of CPUs hit the stores.........
Thanks for the video. I haven’t built a system for about 15 years and it’s been a bit of a learning curve. Looking at what’s out there I sort of came up with this board so your video has been a great help.
Glad it was helpful!
Another great video, Mike. Keep up the good work. :)
Thanks, will do!
Great video! I snagged one for $80 to use as a mobo for an entry level mining rig.
Very nice!
Did you manage to get 6x GPU's running on this mobo?
@@minersguild9133 I have the same question!
Great video to start my day with... I get a couple of friends every week asking me about which boards to use. Keep up the great content.
Thanks buddy appreciate it
great video m8 no faffy about straight to the point with a dsh of humour and you got a real mans haircut(my wife reckons we we seperated at birth lol)
nice! us baldies need to stick together :-)
Keep it up and thanks for the great review! Im building a cheap mining rig but I dont know what to choose between this one or gaming plus max (also did see your review) thanks
probably this one i think
"From the same creators of: "Download more RAM", We happily present to you: "Download a new GPU"
Juuuust in case someone has this board and wants to boost the system with a 5800x3D: I have it (+ 6700XT GPU) and it works flawlessly with the latest bios version. Yes the VRM is fairly budget but its really good for what it is and if I run a stresstest on all 8 cores the "system" (HW monitor) still stays cool at around 40°C maximum (if thats the correct one to look at, the rest is even cooler). But I gotta say my old big tower has a very good air flow. For gaming its totally fine anyways, since only 1-2 cores are used in probably 99,99% of all games. My 2x8GB RAMs run at 3600mhz on XMP profile 1 without any issues whatsoever.
So it works perfectly fine with the 5800x3D. If there was a significant performance boost from pcie3 (b450) to pcie4 (b550) I would switch to a b550 board, but since there isnt, I stick to this very stable and durable budget board 😉
Great video, very in depth and right on! I just fell on this video and while I do realize it's a little over a year ago, I wanted to say that's when I purchased this board as I was looking for a budget build. It's an amazing board that also permitted me this year to upgrade from a Ryzen 5 1600 to a Ryzen 9 5900 without any problems, buying it a whole new life and saving me from buying a new system. Very robust and easy bios upgrades. Happy to have discovered your channel.
Glad it was helpful! and welcome to the channel
Definitly worth it. I just built a gaming pc with that board for budget reasons. After bios flash (thx for your video... ;) ) with a 5600G pretty fine for gaming on low specs until GPU prices will fall.
Glad I could help!
Bro msi b450 a pro max + ryzen 5 5600g good combination?
@@sharforajkhan7593 No not good but usable
Msi b450 mortar max?
I use this non max variant for my rig with ryzen 5 2600 in it. And it handle the undervolt and mild overclock so well, also oc ram with xmp and get from 3000mhz to 3200mhz is so easy.
yes no problem
How do connect it the internet?
Great stuff just bought waiting on delivery coupled with 16 di 3200 and a ryzen 2200 g for a media pc in the guest room all on your review also love the idea that old stuff is still relevant thanks for the content
Good choice! hope it turns out well. it should do
Thanks for the video Mike. I would go for the msi b450 tomowhawk max instead but nice review. Saw the brown PCB 😂
The brown pcb kills me every time
yeah the brown is ugly , but as a cheapo upgrade route, its not to bad i suppose, just dont have an rgb to light up the inside of your case :)
@@xubidoo4415 yes good points
Wow gonna have to look more often on Amazon Warehouse for them one time deals. Great overview of the Motherboard.
You should, we've had some great bargains :-)
Whenever I see a new Mike's Unboxing video... I'm all over it. Straight to the point without the fluff. Thanks Mike. Cheers from The States.
Much appreciated, Rick :-)
Does it support 16GB Of ram and speed 3600mhz?
maybe if you are lucky with the CPU memory controller
@@mikesunboxing how about the B450 Pro Vdh Max do it support 3600mhz? 2x8Gb
Hi Mike! I do not understand English at a good level and I do not know electronics, so I would like to ask: Can i connect 5x 4pin fans to this motherboard to cool the entire computer?or are each of these sys_fan for something different to cool? Thanks for answer 🥰
you can connect 2 or 3 fans if using a splitter on each sys fan header. or buy a separate powered fan hub to connect more
Great video! I learned a lot from this.
Thanks 🙏 looking to buy one soon?
hello :) great job on the review, very detailed and useful, i have only one question, i have the msi b450-a pro (non max version) and i am planning on upgrading my cpu, currently i'm between the 5600x and 5800x, and i'm leaning towards the 5800x for productivity reasons (editing photos/videos, adobe premier etc. ). you mentioned that your limit on this MAX version would be the 3900x, do you think i would be safe with the 5800x? more specifically, are the VRM's good enough for it? heard in many places that it is a hot cpu, and i'm afraid of it being throttled, also, not planning to overclock, strictly stock speeds. thanks and have a wonderful day :)
the no max board with good cooling should be okay i think
@@mikesunboxing it works with the max version too?
Mike good job with this review, i have a question can i run AMD RYZEN 7 3800XT with this mother ? (just stocked i dont need overclocking) I understand that with a bios update it should be possible, im right ?
yes that will be fine
My asrock x570 phantom died, I bought one of these for $20 and I'm gaming again. It's a cheap ass motherboard but it saved my life and is perfect for a budget build
Hi mike, I currently have this motherboard working with r5 3600. I'm planning to change to r9 3900x. Would you recommend it? If so, what cooling I should use for the CPU?
you might want some decent cooling for the motherboard and CPU. I use a noctua D15 on my 3900x and it still gets quite warm at times
I know i'm late but is this board compatible with 2133 mhz ram with a R5 3600 please ?
yes botth
@@mikesunboxing Thanks for the quick answer, appreciate it.
@@mikesunboxing Sorry bro last question, would it work with a R5 5600x ?
@@BastosFC2 Yes it will
Great video, as someone with a lower end board (b450 Tomahawk max + r5 3600) i can see that is not quite as good but the price makes up for it, the Tom Max is still around £90 new!!
the tom max is still holding on to that price tag
this guy needs to be more well known
Thank you! Appreciate that :-)
I hope that helps people who want to try a set up with similar builds: I decided to upgrade my over 10 year old system with this board, a ryzen 5 5600g CPU(+ onboard GPU) and suitable DDR4 RAMs. Since it wouldnt identify the CPU out of the box it needed to be updated. So I flashed it with an old USB 2.0 stick formated in FAT32 with the newest 7B86vMF bios update (no beta). It worked out perfectly, I just had to change some basic settings in the bios for it to start windows.
The only thing is that the RAMs are downgraded to 2667 MHZ instead of 3600MHZ (I think the board only supports up to 3200, not 100% sure tho). I wonder what setting I could try to make it work at 3200MHZ since it doesnt run stabily under 3D conditions with the settings I tried..All in all its a great and fairly cheap upgrade for me and I can still buy a better graphics card in the future when I need to.
thanks for the detailed info
@@mikesunboxing Nah, thank YOU for the great reviews and explanations, cheers
Just install the latest one OR sequence one by one from old BIOS version until the latest one??
do you have a guide on how to flash this motherboard?
is the ryzen 5 1600 compatible with this motherboard? cause i just ordered them and want to make sure, also would I have any problems with the bios update?
yes that will work straight away
hey mike, awesome review as always and not so "mainstream"... its always nice to know of cheaper options rather than the high end stuff all other youtubers suggest... would so just get on of these to go with my msi a320m a proMAX... lol actually like the brown to it and don't care for wifi and blue tooth... real gamers don't use wifi :P
Right on!
I think it's great for a budget build. I wanted to get started with AM4, got it used for cheap with 1600AF and 2x8gb RAM 3200, all still on warranty. Later I can upgrade to 5600 when it gets even cheaper and B550 with PCIe 4 and better audio, LAN and RGB header. Out of all brands, B450's from MSI have the best VRM temps. Higher models of B450 from MSI, Gaming Max and Tomahawk don't offer anything more than A Pro, apart from better looks. They are still PCIe 4, still budget audio and LAN, still no 5V RGB. In 2022, because of its low price, A Pro is the only B450 that makes sense.
I like its a plain MB with no RGB. I considering it for R7 5700G
Looks pretty decent! And can be found dirt cheap!
yeah not a bad board at all, just lacking features and a normal PCB colour :-)
Thanks for the info , I’m thinking to a low budget but decent build with this motherboard , a ryzen 3 2200g Vega 8 graphics , 2x8 ripjawsV 16gb ram , a 450w Power supply,one ssd and one hdd and a cougar mx 410gb to put them in will it work or will it blow up in my face xD I’ll upgrade later with 800w power and a gpu .
sounds fine to me 450w is more than enough without a GPU
Just managed to pick up one of these for £37 on ebay. Needed a new slot for another GPU and upgraded to the ryzen 5 3600 which the old board didn't get along with. Great video, considering myself very lucky for the steal price.
Nice one!
How do you connect it to the internet?
Does this motherboard has nvme slot?
it was mentioned in the video ruclips.net/video/iPpLkAKscZ4/видео.html
Hey I am new to the channel but I love it so far
I have a question:
Is the board vrm good enough for Ryzen 7 3700x oc ?
the vrms will likely need a lot of cooling
@@mikesunboxing
Right now my case is pretty bad but until I get the Ryzen 7 I'll get a new PC case with 4 fans 3 in the front and one in the back will that be enough to cool the vrm below 80 ?
First of all, great Video! Can you tell me if there are any limitations regarding GPU´s? Would it be possible for me to -someday- upgrade to a rtx3070 for example? Keep up your good work!:)
it will work with this, it is only pcie3 but that will be fine
@@mikesunboxing Now that was a quick answer. Thank you very much!
It's December 2023 and I was looking for a faster second video editing system with pretty much the same software configuration as my current 2016 system running Windows 7. This answers right away my choice for this MSI B450 board as it is one of the few boards still for sale that supports Windows 7 (MSI still has W7 drivers for it available for download). I picked up a new board for just over 60 euros, along with a 2nd hand Ryzen 7, 2700x processor and a GTX-1070. It may not sound very fast these days, but it is a good deal faster than my current system, which is a MSI 17OA PC MATE with an i5-6400 and a GT-730. So in cases such as these, the B450 is still worth it, even in 2023 and I plan to use it for several more years to come.
hope it serves you well
@@mikesunboxing I think it will. This board is now rapidly going out of stock, but there is an alternative with the same chipset, the Gigabyte AORUS Elite V2. Anyone still interested in these boards shouldn't wait too long if you want a new one.
i just bought it and considered returning it, so this video is perfect.
haven't had the ability to use it yet so this video is pretty useful :)
Glad it was helpful!
@@mikesunboxing actually was, gonna keep it ^^
don‘t know if it‘s the best option tho
i wanna run a ryzen 5 3600x and a 3070, it‘s definitely compatible but i don‘t know if it bottlenecks the gpu.
just wanna make sure cause i earn abt 400€ a month and can‘t afford to waste it on the wrong hardware.
mbd has only been 50€ and i can still return it so advoce would be awesome :)
don‘t have too much to spend tho, that‘s why i went for the cheap option in the first place.
if it is ok i‘ll keep it though ^^
@@kiddketathereal This is maybe easier to advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/gaeeDPw
@@mikesunboxing sure thank you ^^
Thanks for great info. Does that mean the If use with a Ryzen 5 5600G or 7 5700G then if adding a GPU the PCIe/GPU will suffer from the way the board share the capacity?
yes it will only be able to supply at the most PCie gen 3 x8 lanes for the GPU
@@mikesunboxing Thanks for your reply. Can you suggest some good value motherboard for Ryzen 7 5700G? Pc is on and online 24/7. Most used for browsing and media and less gaming. I do not like RGB.. so thats not a priority at all.
@@mikesunboxing I first thought this will be a issue for a future GPU but seems like its ok: ruclips.net/video/XJuj16gRoBI/видео.html
Hi Mike, did you end up making a video about the Ryzen 5000 series and the B450 BIOS settings? I just ordered exactly that
no sorry i didn't but feel free to ask any questions here or on our discord
So I currently have an Asus a320 m-k I just bought the MSI b450 vdh? Something like that... this one your reviewing!...is this motherboard a good solid upgrade to what I have or should I get like a tomahawk or something a little better?...
it is a good decent solid board, no frills just does the job. But if you want more then the tomahawk is a better board, but not by a huge margin
Hi, do you think this board will work with a 5800x with the latest bios update? MSI says its compatible but im worried about it overheating the mobo or bottlenecking, would u recommend a 5600x instead? I currently have a 2700x and need a major upgrade.
it is listed to work but i feel that all core loads might trouble the VRM a little, the 5600x might be the safer range to use
Its a decent board even in these times. I'm still using a budget-friendly ASUS ROG Strix B450-F board in my build.
some of the b450 range have really held on and proved themselves to be both reliable and performers. who would have thought it back then
Does this board work with ryzen 5 3600 without a first bios update?
For £70 from amazon i cant complain. I bought mine just before Christmas for my ryzen 2700. Only problem ive had was my bios channging its language to chinese, was resolved with a reset.
Nice price 😉
Hey mike, doing my first pc build ever, i got a ryzen 5 1600 processor, the msi b450 like in the video, gigabyte vega 56 gpu, and 2x 8 gbram is 16 gb ram ok on this build or ok to add anouther 16 gb ram?
that is fine, although you will struggle to get modern drivers for game for the vega gpu
@mikesunboxing ok thanks, I only play warzone 2.0 so I'll just have to research it
dear mike.. i want to ask your opinion regarding pin on mobos.. Does motherboard with 4 pin power considered less stable/less superior/less durable compare than motherboard with 8pin??
Yes that is mostly right.
Sorry kind of new to this stuff. Does this motherboard have WiFi capabilities or will I need a WiFi adapter for my PC?
yes ti will need a wifi adaptor
Wich would you pick? The Asus Tuff b450 plus gaming or this one? (just based on performance not slots)
msi has better vrm so will be better for performance
@@mikesunboxing Thx buddy:)
Can I use 2,5" SSD with this motherboard? Also would I have to do something extra to make it work with ryzen 5 5600g? Also would MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX II be a better choice than this one ?
get a b550 board if you can like the b550 pro-a
@@mikesunboxing so would MSI B550M-A PRO be fine?
If my processor is 3600 would it be compatible
Yes it will
So i want to build my first pc an i've already bought this motherboard. i concider buying a Corsair 275R airflow PC Cace which comes with 3 pre installed fans. i would also like to buy one rgb ring fan and place it to the rear of the case. Would this be possible? Will the cable of the fan reach the connector of the motherboard and be compatible? Should it be 3 or 4 pin? And if so what fan would you recommend me. I think one rgb ring fan is enough for my taste.
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Good content
thanks
Mike, I just bought one of these off of Ebay for about $25.00US used, sold as is... I'm finding a lot of these boards are purchased by people who don't know how to PROPERLY build a computer and they seel these board as damaged when in fact they aren't... Most of the time its the user who is trying to put in a unsupported processor, or memory... or not installing the unit right.... Finding good deals on someone elses mess.... easy way to build a inexpensive computer when you can get the motherboard for a steal!
Yeah I did go through a stage of looking for “dead” boards to buy cheaply but was getting outbid a lot, and there were limits to what money I would risk
@@mikesunboxing I always do the "Buy Now" option, its a gamble, but most of the time these boards work fine once you get the bios updated and the right processor. I'm hoping this gamble pays off!
@@johnstancliff7328 Good luck!
@@mikesunboxing you wouldn't know where to get the I/O shield for these? I've been looking on Ebay and can't find the right style... is there another model that uses the same shield?
what type of ssd m.2 did this motherboard using? NVME or sata?
nvme gen3 x4
Hi, I have a problem with my gpu. I can’t access safe mode because my gpu isn’t working because there is a black screen any help?
Because I see the option “enable safe mode.” I press number 4 on my keyboard and all it says is Pro series (the brand of my motherboard) and is stuck like that forever.
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Great! I just joined and I put a bit of information in the 2# tech support chat.
something is not right... box is "B450 A Pro MAX", but board is "MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX".. there is a big difference because PRO MAX is only two ram and no VRM heatsink
EDIT: oh I see, one you show is ATX, the crappy one is mATX... what a bumblebee, two boards with exactly same name - one is decent other is trash
Hi I have a question. Is this motherboard will support my ryzen 5 2400ge ? or it need to be bios updated ?
should work out of the box
Update the bios for 5000 series support and there you go .
yep that is all it needs
MSI AMD B550 A Pro did very good on hardware unboxed temp test even on R9 3950x Blender test. The MSI AMD B450 A Pro Max vrm so much less good?
yeah the B450 ranges all had low count VRMs so struggle with multicore setups
@@mikesunboxing I just got the MSI AMD B450 A Pro Max for $45 so I could not resist it. I consider putting a r5 5600G on it instead of r7 5700G. I got a great deal on a corsair RM 850 and Corsair 100R case $80 so even it was not the plan when planning the build this will be very budget build!!
I just got this board for 60 euros. Probably one of the best deals I've ever gotten on Amazon
glad to hear it, hope you enjoy the build
@@mikesunboxing thanks! Also I'm pairing this up with a 5 3600 and 32gb cosair Vengeance ram and GTX 970 do you think it's a good build for gaming and 3d modeling?
I'm thinking of buying this motherboard for my Ryzen 5 3500x processor. Your suggestions?
i would try to go b550 but this works also
Is it good to use ryzen 7 2700x on stock with this motherboard or vram will heat too much??please reply!!
it should handle it fine
@@MAREKPOW oh OK thx for your reply!
Good afternoon... Want to ask the recommended mobo for amd Rzyen 5 4600g, between MSI B450 A Pro Max, Asus Tuf gaming b450, and asrok b450m steel legend. Thank you 🙏.
i would probably go with steel legend
@@mikesunboxing OK 🙏🙏.
what are the best cases to go with this ?
depends on your location but the gamemax f15m is really good for the money
Hey man I found a pre-built from a friend who works for a PC store whaddya think?
Specs:
MB: MSI B450 M-Pro
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600x
GPU: RX 570 4Gb
Psu" Cooler Master 600W
RAM: 16Gb (8×2)
Case: MSI forge with 3 fans and an extra 2 added
Price: 650 dollars
sounds okay but us or canadian dollars
Please help me , should i buy msi b450M Mortar Or msi b450a pro max ? Thank you
depends if you want MATX or ATX, if you are not bothered size wise i would maybe go with the mortar
@@mikesunboxing thank you for your answer , i don't care abt the size i just want to choose the best , so the mortar is better ? In Vrm and ...?
wish i knew this wasnt good for argb before I bought it
yeah sadly that is what a lot of people say, hence the reason for the video really
@@mikesunboxing is there a way to control ARGB fans if you buy a controller? Or am I just better off buying something like a Gigabyte B450 Aorus Pro or something
@@breht a cheap remote controlled ARGB fan hub will be a good idea, the gamemax one i reviewed is a good option and the saharagaming one is also quite good but limited to sahara fans
Will this board support the rgb fans on the musetex mesh micro atx Tower?
no sorry that is addressable rgb and the motherboard only does RGB
Will this board works perfectly with ryzen 3600x 16gb 3200mhz ram and rx 5500xt 8g?
And if i plan to upgrade cpu to 5000 series is it good enough?
it will work but some games will be a bit slower with the PCIe gen 3 limitation
will it work well with palit rtx 3060 OC, ryzen 5 3600 and kingston FURY renegade 2×8GD 3600?
it will work okay, but is more suited to a B550 platform or higher and the b450 most likely won't like 3600mhz RAM
i have this board with Ryzen 5 5600 (not G or X) , the cooling is the problem every time play game M.2 temp always reach 44.
what best solution change exhaust fan or CPU Cooler
M.2 can get to 70c before it is a problem 44c is good
What do you think about the b450m pro vdh max?
not bad for a MATX build
Is this board good for a ryzen 5 5500 and gtx 1650??? Also can i enable xmp with it
yes and yes
@@mikesunboxing okay thanks
can u put wifi card in there as well as gpu?
(I'm new at pc building stuff 😅)
yes you can
can i use HyperX Fury 8GB 3600 mhz on this mother board?
probably not at 3600 but will depend a lot on the CPU as well
@@mikesunboxing planing to get ryzen 5 3600, is it ok to pair it with 3600 mhz ram?
and now, we need to know about if this board is still good to use in 2022!
it is but it depends on what you are pairing it with, it is all about balance
Does this board support WiFi?
And maybe Bluetooth?
It will but you need a usb or pcie card to do it
MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX is this board compatible for the Ryzen 7 1700
yes it did from the original bios release
My MSI B365M displayed a red CPU error light and would not POST.. There have been other reports the B450 series also has this problem. Waiting on a replacement / refund.
sure it isn't just a CPU that isn't compatible? or was it working previously
Does it work for r3 3200g plz reply
yes it does
What’s a good gpu I can put into this motherboard I have a rx 570
GTX1080 RX5700xt
I have a question , can I slap a ryzen 7 5800x on a B450 A-pro max?
you can but might not be getting the most out of it on that platform
Slightly wish I had seen this before buying this motherboard as a replacement. I was looking for RGB and noticed there is a header but it isn't connected to anything..
yes sorry to hear that. might need a separate ARGB or RGB controller like the Gamemax one we reviewed
Can this run 6 GPU's or 7 and how? Wonder if it is a good mining mobo.
no idea sorry, i would doubt it the PCIe lanes are heavily shared
Hey Mike is there a argb header and can we control fans with the software or if possible let me know how to control fans
no ARGB header on this board. You can use msi center to control the fans though
@@mikesunboxing Okayy
One question will it support 7th Generation AMD A8-9600 Quad-Core APU (up to 3.4GHz, Base 3.1GHz) with Radeon™ R7 Graphics
no a series are not supported at all
@@mikesunboxing thanks for the info
Ths from 3yrs ago, so is it still good now?
it is still fine for a cheap platform but b550 boards are better
whats the best compatable gpu for this motherboard please respond?
rtx3090 will work but so will a 750ti so there is a wide range of options
@@mikesunboxing ok thank you so much bro what about the best compatible (even if it bottlenecks) gpu for a Ryzen 3 3200g
?
I don’t think at the moment amd is the way to go full stop at the moment.
I was wanting a 5600x but it’s simply ridiculous to get and the ones you can get are just silly prices, even stuff like 3600 and 3700 are silly money considering they are last gen parts.
I managed to snag a i7 10700f for 230£ with a msi b460 torpedo board and dare I say that intel are offering more bang for buck at the moment.
and intel stuff is actually available to buy which seals the deal for most people right now
Hello. Good job. I have a question I'm going to build a gaming pc so my budget is 500 I have a monitor keyboard mouse everything Except for the pc can you please give me a good solution. I don't won't used items. I am thinking to buy a cpu whit graphics and don't buy a gpu because of the budget. And i was thinking about this motherboard and some other stuff. Please help me. 🙂
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@@mikesunboxing thank you very much I'm joining the discord right now
Also I have a ryzen 5 2600 that im transfering over aswell
b450m steel legend or msi b450m-a pro max?
for 5 3600
Steel legend for me
thanks👍
@@GRey0506 No problem
So is this board compatible with the 5 5600g?
yes with the latest bios
work with Kingston NV1 500G m.2 ?
depends on the processor you are planning to use but yes most likely