Agenda Against Underprivileged People | Veganism and Casteism | Tamil Nadu | Q & A
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- People either knowingly or unknowingly have a bad habit of telling Vegans that they have a casteist agenda as they are promoting the eradication of meat. But this argument falls flat on it's face for the following reasons :
1. Brahminical Vegetarianism was one of the tools used in the past to put down certain groups of people and not give them equal rights in society as they were labelled as lower humans or untouchables. This was possible because there was a differentiating factor between vegetarians and meat eaters and many vegetarians wanted it to be that way as such a differentiating factor would benefit them. Vegans do not benefit from people eating meat, dairy, eggs or honey. Vegans are actively trying to make others also become Vegan. So how can a group that is actively trying to remove the differentiating factor be blamed to create division when they are trying to eradicate the very ground on which Brahminical Vegetarianism was grown on?
2. Vegans are not Vegetarians, Vegans condemn Vegetarians. Vegetarianism is a diet based on culture, religion or tradition. Veganism is a philosophy based on the fact that animals are sentient beings like us and have the right to live on Earth without being exploited as a slave, just like we do.
3. If there is a person Vegan/Non-Vegan who engages in Casteist behaviour then I do condemn that as equally as I condemn the consumption of meat, dairy, eggs and honey. All forms of discrimination are equal. All racist, homophobic, sexist, casteist and speciesistic wrong doings should be condemned equally.
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Even though Chapters 19-24 (bar Chapter 22) amply explicates the underlying principle for the NATURAL system of class structure of adult males within society, and for the NATURAL hierarchy of collective humanity, based on the obvious fact that equality is non-existent in the macro sphere, and the fact that human society, as with most animal species, requires specialization in order to properly function, the following Glossary entry has been included simply due to the fact that Bhāratīya (Indian) society has become adulterated by a gross misunderstanding of this NATURAL hierarchical structure over the past few centuries, and the fact that Indians are most likely to comprehend this Holy Scripture.
caste: This English term originates from the mid sixteenth century (in the general sense “race, breed”): from Spanish and Portuguese “casta” (“lineage, race, breed”), feminine of “casto” (meaning “pure, unmixed”), from Latin “castus” (meaning “chaste”).
Therefore, the term “caste” should NEVER be used instead of “class”, and especially ought not be conflated with the notion of “varna” (literally, “colour”), an ancient Sanskrit word that refers to the natural-born proclivities of adult males and their occupations.
As clearly explained in Chapter 19 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, the division of adult males into four social classes (that is, priests, kings, businessmen, and workers) has absolutely naught to do with one’s birth but ENTIRELY dependent upon a man’s innate qualities and the kind of work he is performing (“guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ”, in Sanskrit). Of course, it may seem rather bewildering to consider that a man born to a carpenter, for instance, has the opportunity to break away from his social milieux/circumstances and become a king, for example, but it does happen more often than one may believe. In my own particular case, I was born the son of a working-class man (an aircraft instrument maker, to be precise), yet in my early twenties, became attracted to the monastic life, swiftly becoming a member of the Holy Priesthood, and eventually the current World Teacher Himself. If I had not joined the priesthood, but had decided to devote my adult life to some kind of manual work, such as that of my father, I would still probably have embodied the priestly qualities enumerated in Chapter 20 (since that is my nature) but I could not in all honestly claim to be a priest/guru, because my occupation would have been other than that of a spiritual guide, at the risk of stating the obvious.
So, in summary, it is ABSOLUTELY imperative that, in order to claim that any particular man is a member of any particular social class, that he both exemplifies the pertinent qualities of the particular class and actually works in that class (although, at the risk of sounding sophistic, only members of the working class, by definition, work - priests and monarchs, for instance, have a “vocation”).
Therefore, there is no such thing as a child or a woman belonging to any social class. As a child, I was not a member of the working class, even though my father was a worker, since, as a child, I did not work, nor was I member of the Priesthood, since I had yet to join the monastery/seminary until I was well into adulthood. Similarly, there is most definitely no such thing, for example, as a “Brahmin* woman”, since, excepting extenuating circumstances, women can not and should not perform male roles.
*Brāhmaṇa
You’re amazing Arvin! Thank you.
Arutperunjothi arutperunjothi thaniperungkarunai arutperunjothi Ella
Uyirgalum inbutru vazhga
Through following suddha sanmargam 1 can attain a life without even killing creatures unknowingly - Vallalar
This guy should be a lawyer. The arguments are so damn strong and lucid. Though I am not a vegan I found his arguments very perspective changing and convincing.
Are you going to be vegan now ?
Then you are an a idiot he's shifting his goals everytime to prove himself right
He is a lawyer ? You thought the RUclips audience are kids?
@dhruvbhartia90
Nope it is just a speech. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things
He's just speaking the truth. Just the truth and not really manipulating anything. I don't know about Aravind being a lawyer but he for sure does a great job as an animal activist.
Arvind has his mind and heart in the right place. God bless him and his agenda to fight for all animal rights. JSK
He wasn't happy that Arvind completely debunked him. Arvind is completely master of any situation in this sphere.
He didn't even have the grace to acknowledge Arvind's victory.
Because he never had a question but an agenda.
He was thinking of playing the victim card but got decimated
@@user-ed7pu5uj3q Victory? Against some uninformed students? Let this Arvind guy first explain how his Veganism fares against Nature and Science. If you stop eating animal protein your muscles would wither away within 6 months. You don't need to believe me, you can go and ask a doctor of your choice.
And if you are too lazy for that, just look at the health of this guy. 😅🤣😂
@@user-ed7pu5uj3q nah.. i think it was ok.. he acknowledge with a nod ya.. I mean, most of the time people will go down to absurd irrational arguments and get aggressive even after they are clearly seeing the point..
It is a lot for anyone to see their belief systems shaken.. we need to let others have that time too..
he was better than most people who make it an ego battle rather than a logical discussion..
How he speaks so fluently and responds any type of questions without even taking time to think? I am just impressed by his command in English language and debating skills
English? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. The last apology by an Indian to be convinced is English language. Grow up.
@@gjw2wj469 Sorry didn't get you
It's because he knows the truth and all he's doing is speaking the truth. You need not think and all when you know the ultimate truth
@@gjw2wj469u grow up instead of feasting on innocent animals.
Clarity in your thoughts is all about....else will follow
Mr triggered guy needs to understand that he isn't the victim here even if he assumes himself to be.. the victims r the animals that r exploited and killed not u
Very well said!
Man no one was triggered, he just had a query during arvinds speech and arvind respectfully answered
@@siddheshsrinivasan8818 he seemed aggressive. See the way he speaks.. I'm talking abt the guy asking a question
The same applies for vegetarian too.
@@Kalyanigautam21 How aggressive?. May be you are over emotional and nit picking.
You are a legend!! It's a touchy subject navigating India's Brahmanical history with the cause of animal ethics, but you presented it brilliantly!! Thanks for this!!! Veganism forever!
🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️…. Brahminical brahminical brahminical…. Ever do you see anything else than that….🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Please give me the brahmanical history of India with facts not propaganda
Yep. This guy's cluelessness is on legendary levels. Got to admit that.
Brahmanical Vegetarianism? Gujaratis, Rajasthanis, Jains would be shocked with this revelation, that they are actually all Brahmins. 😅🤣😂
But you will speak brahminical as caste but you hv agenda against sanatan ..you will never speak against halal meat 😂😂😂😂😂 or bakri eid 😂😂😂😂😂selective veganism😅😅
Dei ipdi Brahmins a kora solli solli ozhuchutengada rascals
The fact that they victimize themselves when they r the one paying for slaughter is craey cognitive dissonance AND manipulation.
He is right there are people who embrace veganism to sit on the moral high horse.
doesn't matter what other people do. what do you do? If some vegan is arrogant in front of you the worst outcome is you get annoyed and angry over someones attitude. Seems like a small price to pay compared to the torture and death of animals. And obviously I (I am vegan) also dislike people that get on moral high horses instead of being truly wise and understanding of our conditioning. Like Arvind!@@sameerbhalerao431
@@sameerbhalerao431 are there? Or thats what you think to put yourself on a moral high horse, even tho you consume animal products and are morally bankrupt?
Arvind, thank you for your compassion and exceptional reasoning and responses, you are such an asset to the vegan community and a clear, no nonsense, effective voice for the Animals !!
It's my question to the questioner that if you are worried about unemployment of farmers related to animal farming then pls think where were you when you choose CD instead of cassettes, when you choose computer instead of physical work, car instead of cycle, fridge water instead of earthern pot, led instead of tv. My point is whenever you upgrade yourself by buying computer, car, CD, led etc then why didn't you question about unemployment of the industry of cycle, cassette, tv, etc. Hope you understand 🙏🙏🙏. When we buy upgraded version , before one have to put off down. No one think about them then why in the matter of animals😢😢. Many industries shut down when we stop buying their products to upgrade ourselves. Same will be veganism n it will be very slow process n not acceptable to everyone. This whom who have heart
Yes, that upgrade didn't require for them to change their habit; rather those things made their habit more enjoyable and convenient. People always tend to choose personal convenience over anything or anybody else. Sad reality!
Awesome
Great response!
@punambisht3762
What a ridiculously stupid comparison and analogy
As a brahmin, we don't even care nowadays
There is so much hatred for us in India due to which it became normal to insult brahmins by making the word "brahmanical" sound like evil.
Like the topic is veganism vs non veganism
And the questioner started argument of casteism 🥲
What the fuck is even relation between personal choice and casteism?
Normally, we don't care, but this is too much
Using word "Brahmanical" in a negative way in both the argument and answer is also like casteism to Brahmins
Btw, loved the shift from casteism to speciesm😂, the questioner was like-
This was not even in syllabus😂😂
As a fellow brahmin, its sad to see this. To be falsely portrayed as bad guys. I was looking in the comment section to see if some one correct the misinformation in video at certain times.
@@SudhamsuSharmaneodonly yes brother, we are not the ones who are discriminating, it were some of our ancestors, but now, we are being discriminated and it's sad cause we are getting that treatment even with people who are so called against discrimination
brother m obc but m making people aware about brahminphobia, i free the constitution is anti brahmin, n when my friend speak on past things den i counter it wid mughals n brits, its very interesting to know this hindus can only speak n corner tolerant people, they ll piss their pants infront of a maulana
@@BharatSharma-of9du brother, this was not the topic raised by me🥲
I have my own cow btw and she is just like a big dog for me😅
Brahmnin here.. this question is really outrageous.. Arvind is brahmin himself.. sad to see Indians are still trapped in these kind of mentality..
Why Brahmins become scapegoat in this issues? i dare you please use other community names too where you felt discriminated.
There is proverb, beating Brahmin or doctor, won't get equal and opposite reaction, which disproves 3rd law of motion.
But just blaming any other community will cause riots and public property damages.😅
@@mamy22kathen, since 3rd law disproves, we have have at least try to implement first law😅
So well explained!! It couldn't be clearer! Well done, as always, Arvind! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Nope it is just a speech. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things
So much hate against Bhahmins. Sad.
Unfortunately cuz of casteism
hate casteism and not brahmins@@srikkdoc
Pretty much normal for inventing caste system
Ask him , was Rajputs Untouchables? They did eat meat and they are eating now. The whole propaganda against Brahmins in south India is misleading. Both are anti Brahmins, Shame on them.
Untouchables?
I am sure he still didn't get the point at last.😂 He is just another triggered fool and proxy abuser who doesn't want to change his habits nor does he ever feel anything for the animals. I am 💯 sure about it. These people will never change.
Their compassion and empathy are drowned in their ignorance and selfishness.
Long live Arvind
Meat eaters live longer
Standing ovation Arvind 😊..brilliant answer .
Now people are bringing a new reason to eat meat... "Caste"!! Lol 😂
Clowns 🤡 have all kinds of excuses because they lack empathy.
@@VeganSemihCyprus33yes brther
You are Not Vegan if you are not Brahmin 💩
@@VeganSemihCyprus33 Nope it is just a speech. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things
@behappy8248 - It was once a caste issue and now it is a corporate globalist issue.
Stereotyping one community and demonising them is not intellect, you deserve what you give others, probably these people needs to be called out and even be dealt with the same way they do.
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
I was a vegetarian for the ethical reason not much for the religious reason. Though I support you for actually condemning dairy industry for mistreatment of cows, I think your point about Vegetarianism being completely about religious reason and nothing about ethical reason was wrong.
If it’s about ethics then let go of the dairy and egg.
@@Patrick-yc3tf I never ate eggs in my life.
The thing with dairy is there isn't much awareness about the mistreatment of cows especially in India. Thats why people don't think about giving up dairy for ethical reason.
Totally agreed
I drink milk, but only because I have cow and I feed her and take care of her, but now I think, when she dies I won't drink milk again cause freedom is still not there, but yeah I always give my cow good meal and hence she is happy with a owner like me, and she is more like a big dog btw 😅
@@Patrick-yc3tf Amul: biggest dairy company of India, collects milk from the villages' farmers( who don't harm their cattle, feed good). Why let go when we have better alternative?
True...even vegetarianism ethics is because of religion,and credit has to be given to positive aide of religion too ..
The man who thought about making veganism superior than vegetarianism was the reason they think everything is broken in the hindu society, when it's not. casteism was a consequence of having different jatis. jatis were made naturally and not by a few folks. there's a reason why rich people become friends with other rich guys. there's a reason why doctors marry doctors, teachers befriend other teachers or professors or businessmen with other businessmen. you would not see some businessman befriending an autowala or a chaiwala or a labour no matter how much money he's making. please you guys first understand the real world and then blame brahmans for everything.
Brilliant way of handling such dicey situations. Love the way you answer questions in such a diplomatic way simultaneously not being an apologist for the animals.
Atleast we all should have some courtesy towards brahmins as they try to prioritize cleanliness, dharma and spirituality, ahimsa and partially VEGAN. They not be shrugged off.
These are the students who create all kinds of things like untouchability
Yes, this clown student is the one who wants to abuse animals.
He is a muslim. He is doing halal and justifying murder of animals
That composure in the answering that inciting questions with mass applaud is awesome! 👏
We (Brahmins) are like white people
We cannot have our point of view , other then us everyone are given benefits by government, if we say something we are regarded as casteist or racist , we are facing our great great grandparents evil doing while we have done none
Arvind how easily you have said "BRAHMINICAL" and treated this term as evil
While you were sympathetic towards him
Now I think God's doesn't exist
Bro you have said nothing but facts
True
That's karma I guess. If you consume animal products, you also create bad karma.
Don't compare with white people, it's a shame.
So, In southern India, what they did is put all the blame of casteism on Brahmans. While its stakes were held by major population of the community. Even among "lower castes", there are further lower ones and they won't marry each other and treat based on the order. Rather than taking responsibility as a society, a scapegoat was found.
But also, there is nothing to get that demoralised too. At the time, majorly this propaganda is circulated by the left-affiliated people, parties and organisations. And they are hardly attracting any voters.
PS- Vegans are a joke.
Dude. Why drag Brahmins into this conversation ? You can have a good conversation about Veganism without beating up Brahmins. Sick. You can make the exact same point that you made without dragging Brahmins into the equation. Hard to understand?
People must understand Reservation is for Vote only. It's not social Justice. It's a tool to do Brutal Injustice Towards General Caste People. Reservation is a Scam. Reservation is license to tell lies. Reservation empower people to hate General caste people.
Example: Ahom who ruled about 600 years is backward community with the power vote. Yadav who is politically powerful community. Yadav who rules this country for about 400 years. Yadav who was a respectable community in Ancient time is a backward community because they have the numbers of Votes bank. In Tamilnadu Vellalar, Gounder, Reddiars, Mudaliar, Nadars, Mudaliar, Vanniyar etc all are forward caste people but all are now Backward community for Reservation.
Almost all Adivasi had their own Kings and Queen, Own Administration, Own Tax system, Own Army etc. But now......
As General caste people are Minority and OBC SC ST people are in majority. Government gives enormous power and Government only stand by community who has more votes. In present scenario it's very tough for poor people to do competition with Fake OBC SC ST people. Fake because how could anyone became backward after ruling 400 - 600 years.
Recently Government has increased Fees for General caste students in IIT by 2x times. And gives free Education to SC and ST. General caste people and students has to work hard and give tax so that OBC SC ST people gets free enjoyment.
Spreading hatred towards General Caste People and create division based on caste is probably unofficially legal in India. Any Government won't take action against hatemongers leaders of OBC SC ST or Leftist mindsets General caste leaders.
Ambedkar Sir was a great son of India for some people. He was not so poor. If we are not wrong His father Ramji Maloji Sakpal was soldier of British Army and his Grand father was soldier of East India Company. His wife was Brahmin. His title was given by Brahmin teacher. He got scholarship from Indian King. At pre Independence time when people were rise up against British. British had tried to divide countrymen so they introduced permanent Caste system. Some people and organization had probably helped British. If we are not wrong, Ambedkar Sir and Mohammed Ali Jinnah wanted separate country for them. Ambedkar Sir had wanted a separate country only for SC people. Don't trust us, Please verify the information by yourself.
People should go to court against this Scam. It's impossible for most them to prove themselves as backward. Some may say that there are poor people among OBC SC ST but in India, Reservation is not based on economic situation. If someone gets Reservation due to economic conditions, they will immediately move into EWS category not in OBC SC ST category.
For Minority General caste people, it's very difficult to get justice in democracy if majority voters acts like bully or oppressor. People should request Government atleast they should be honest and write it on Constitution directly that *Reservation is based on Votebank.* It's like Gunda Tax? It has nothing to do with Social Justice or Social empowerment. Otherwise Fake narrative wouldn't stop. Please don't afraid and Fight Back for your rights. Please analyze and Share.
Evolo perusalam pota panipangala short and simple ah explain panu
Don't insult Brahmins or be a anti hindu just to prove something
I am a hindu extremist but I have mostly adopted veganism 😊
you're a Brahmin. aren't you? nothing to get offended, that's how it has been. you're making a change that's good.
Hindu extremist what does that mean
Jai Shri Ram
@krox477 he's probably a Hindutva Hindu who wants the whole of India to be Hindu and hates other religions and other castes
@@metsys7928 literally none
Arvind please upload full long lectures, another thing can you please help me with milk! My friend claims Milk is whole diet and you can't ignore it and few places male cows are not sold but are kept for working so please help me answering this question!! Thank you for spreading this message, I'll always try my level best to explain people what is true--
U can ask ur friend to answer the question.....what's the thing in milk that you can't find in plants?
People who say shit like this.....are not well versed in nutrition.
And probably say stuff like .... calcium.
U can then explain that calcium is present in so many different things
@@siddhanthravichandran3245 he put claims like milk is a whole diet in itself and B12 is naturally found in milk and human body needs lactose in some amount and for that he needs to consume milk. Our teacher told us to debate in class about veganism, I defeated all of them in everything except this one question~
@@Milindmutuswami how is milk a complete food?
It lacks Vitamin C , folic acid , fiber and almost no iron.
Not to mention most humans are lactose intolerant so we can't completely digest milk anyways.
And not only does it not contain iron
....it actually prevents u from absorbing iron.
Which is why if a doctor prescribes. iron supplements , it should not be taken with milk
Baby calves dont need vitamin C because they can create them in their own body....that's why it's a complete food for them.
Human breast milk DOES contain vitamin C ... because unlike a cow....we don't have this ability.
So if ur friend is looking for a complete food....it's human breast milk.
Also B12 is naturally made from bacteria in soil.....which is consumed by the cows....and ends up in milk.
But since factory farmed cows don't do this....we have to supplement them.
Why not just eat the supplements ourselves then? Saves time as well as an animals life.
@@Milindmutuswamib12 is found in rootes vegetables and is produced by a bacteria . The thing is we do not eat directly rotted vegetables but wash them makes it hard to get b12 also the animals are also given injections of such nutrients
This is what happens when you do your propoganda in dravidian tamilnadu 😂😂
😆😂🤣
Arvind is the BEST💚
Arvind watch your mouth and don't use this word "brahminical" as evil , brahmans food choices were based on compassion towards animals ,brahmans never ate meat all they did was consume dairy and that too of thier own cow after the calf had its share what was left was consumed. This doesn't seems evil. Every other person stands and criticises brahmans today like we shouldn't even open our mouth. Vegetarianism isn't bad it's the companies that are doing evil with animals our aim should be to pressure government to bring strict laws so that they can't exhaust cows for thier milk.
Well said
So true
Wow Brahminical hate both from audience and the Speaker himself. Aravind talks Brahmin hate. Why couldn't he have countered its not Brahmins alone who practiced Vegetarianism. Saiva Pillaimar, Saiva Velalar, Jains and many more sects/religion practice Vegetarianism. Brahmanical hate both from the audience and the Speaker himself. Such a Poor knowledge debate riding on the hatred that was filled in younger one's minds from 1960s for Political votebank capturing. Not only Brahmins. Saiva Pillaimar, Saiva Velalar, Jains and many more sects/religion practice vegetarianism. But no one will be called out with any hate. In fact Dravidian Tamilians respect Jainism and like to place Jains against Brahmins or Hindus at large, creating further divide. Again due to Politics of Dravidian Tamils to hate Brahmins like anything. Brahmins Vegetarianism is about being a Vegetarian. Non Vegetarianism being a Non Vegetarian. Now Veganism. These are 3 different isms and each can co exist. When Sudha Murthy said she would like to keep separate spoons. Thats her choice and not hate for others. Its a simple thing to understand. But people won't want to understand as they have been taught to do a reverse hate. Untouchability is a sin from a humanity perspective. Its a human construct. Likewise this reverse hate targetting Brahmins is also human construct. Both should be fought against. Infact Brahmins themselves fought against temple untouchability in Tamil Nadu and a Brahmin CM passed the order that no one is untouchable when it comes to temple entry. All are equals.
Current Politics also revolves around Brahminical hate, when DMK presided over two important Dalit killing in 1968 Keezhvenmani and Manjolai 1999. Infact DMK has usurped Panjami lands which were originally Dalit Lands. These Kids are taught Brahmin hate right from their young age and zombified to distract from the facts of Dravidianist Dalit oppression. And then they preach the world about Casteist Morals. Brahmins deserve their dignity and their choice. Don't be a Dravidian zombie. Learn to question Dravidians with critical thinking.
True bro, I've seen multiple videos of south & entire India demonising brahmans. But here in Odisha, probably the only place brahmans can live peacefully without facing slurs
Jai Jagannath 🙏
Caste violence's still exist so just by ignoring them doesn't mean it does not exists.
@@gjw2wj469 Dravidianist Dalit Oppression = Caste Violence. Zamindar's (Justice Party's main founders) hate for Oppressed class is the crux of Dravidianist Dalit Oppression....
@curiouswanderer793 well said. The speaker in his argument while proclaiming to be neutral unnecessarily spewed hate using fashionable words like Brahmanical Vegetarianism etc. I felt that if he was true to his cause of being Vegan, he could still vouch for it without insulting specific communities.
He pulled brahmins in debate in response to questionnaire's argue that poor people used to face discrimination, Brahmins were the people who brought out this superior inferior concept as they were only wise people at that time,
Your body isn't going to be compost for soil, either your poop is manuar for plants, you don't breathe out oxygen, don't think you are too important for this world
Good job arvind, you very well convey the message 👏👍👍
How the anchor says vegetarianism is Brahminism? If the anchor is neutral,then what about the guy who is speaking? The anchor is also not making sense.
That's probably his deep rooted casteism he can't mask anyway which makes him think only brahmins were capable of acknowledging consumption of animal flesh is bad.
He didn't even know there are saiva vellalars, saiva agamudayars, chettiars, etc .. there are more vegetarian castes that aren't brahmin.. and there are many brahmins who eat meat like goats and fish .. so it's all bs
Brilliant explanation. Arvind is a national treasure. Hats off man !!
In India each and every argument will boils down to cursing Brahmins. 😂
Just wow....such a nice talk presented by Arvind! Mind blowing! Hats off!! Great reasoning with the man! Logical and sensible! Wow...❤
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
I feel bad for those Brahmins who got trolled for no reason 😂😂😂
Exactly wtf
I prefer Satvic food, instead of Vegan
Unfortunately there are people who troll those who prefer Satvic food as well, so in that case just ignore and move on 🙂
Incredible handling of situation and reply.
Great work as usual, thank you 💗💗
In north most of SC STs are pure vegetarian and don't eat even eggs, this nonsense to connecting with casteism is illogical
Ask him , was Rajputs Untouchables? They did eat meat and they are eating now. The whole propaganda against Brahmins in south India is misleading. Both are anti Brahmins, Shame on them.
Hey the person who asked question was anti brahmin. Arvind himself comes from a brahmin family. I am a vegan too And yes ANY non vegan person's food (including all castes and religions) is DISGUSTING 🤢🤮🤮!!!
Love the way you patiently listened , very beautifully explained to him.❤🙇♀️
Greatly answered!
Wow! So amazing! You said it perfectly so explain that animals should have rights! #veganforever
Beautifully articulated and clear explanation! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽🌱🌱🌱🌱
So lucidly explained Arvind
What a response man u r genius long live to u
What an amazing response 👏
Appreciate the way this debate is conducted, this is how you get a meaningful conversation and not just shouting and interrupting each other
He thought he did something… This is what happens if you don’t listen properly. It’s also embarrassing for the people who clapped. And the smug in his face...
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
How did he even qualify 10th
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
Arvind, hats off to your Patience. It’s very difficult to Justify since people are born and raised in certain environment, where somethings that are normal to one person can be totally different for another person.
Hey Arvind! What are you doing? I am your fan, supporter & becoming vegan from vegeterian, but what the hell is "brahminical vegeterianism"? Why targeting Hinduism only? I am part of many vegan groups on FB but i have noticed many anti-cultural Vegans supporting smoking, drinking, abusive language, promiscuity, homosexuality, etc which you can join those groups & confirm yourself 1st hand. Brahmin surname means teacher or administrator basically bcoz Varn is professional category & depends on actions & attitude more than qualification. Vegeterianism is common foundation principle to every Sanatani (Hindu), Budhhist & Jain. Unfortnately this is Kaliyug. Veganism is very much required today but you are using very wrong term. Many vegeterians are becoming vegans but if you use provocative terms then people will consider you as just another impulsive youngster. Theist or atheist, if people followed Hinduism, Budhhism, Jainism properly, prevented Abrahmic invasion & slavery & controlled population then Veganism wouldn't have been required so much desperately. Veganism is just related to animals & hence cannot guarantee comprehensive good culture, so i suggest better colaborate with vegeterians who are ready to be vegans, brahmin surname doesn't matter, don't target it bcoz in future they are your best potential supporters, you might even see brahminical veganism also or rather i should say vegan Sanatanis, Budhhists, Jains.
Amazing sir 💚💚
As a vegan activist, i need to learn how to answer such questions like you
You handled that excellently Arvind. I wish more people who 'think' they 'were, are or will be' 'oppressed', make the change immediately and go vegan. I respect every 'ethical' vegan who is vegan 'for the animals'. They are God level in my eyes.
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
Anyone can't argue with aravind bcz he is argue for poor animals 🥺
although i understand the emotional appeal but I trust our ancestors and gods more than modern science which do not know anything and look though abstraction they do not know full details, ancient sages know more about this life and dharma, if cow is treated like how Krishna treated cows in goshala, i do not think consuming that milk is bad, you should promote cow family in each house as your theme, we do not need big dairy but good people who could provide cow milk without hurting cows and other animals.
@@user-ij9vi6sn8g that type of care of cows is not posible in this time. humans are selfish
@@NEET2023... bilkul possible hai bhai, ache log dhundoge toh ache log milenge bure dhundoge toh bure milenge.
Veganism is just not compatible brahmanism. A person who believes in hierarchy among humans just cannot be against the hierarchical dominion of humans over animals.
The word Brahmanism was coined by Gonçalo Fernandes Trancoso (1520-1596) in the 16th century. Historically, and still by some modern authors, the word 'Brahmanism' was used in English to refer to the Hindu religion, treating the term Brahmanism as synonymous with Hinduism, and using it interchangeably.[75][76] In the 18th and 19th centuries, Brahminism was the most common term used in English for Hinduism. Brahmanism gave importance to Absolute Reality (Brahman) speculations in the early Upanishads, as these terms are etymologically linked, which developed from post-Vedic ideas during the late Vedic era. The concept of Brahman is posited as that which existed before the creation of the universe, which constitutes all of existence thereafter, and into which the universe will dissolve, followed by similar endless creation-maintenance-destruction cycles.
Here we see Compassion vs Ego at play. Arvind spreads truth and compassion!
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
Excellent response, Arvind. Your clarity of thought and presence of mind are truly inspiring.
It's disheartening to see how some people try to drag issues like casteism into discussions where they don't belong-like here, where the focus is on animal cruelty. I don't understand this mindset. It's troubling how Brahmins are often portrayed negatively by some. For the record, I'm not a Brahmin, but I know many who are incredible individuals. While it is true that there has been discrimination by Brahmins in the past, I hold deep respect for them today, as they are often disciplined, ethical, and God-fearing. I hope that with better education, this divisive mentality will fade away.
To the Other Guy:
You're not the victim here-the animals are. Yet you try to paint yourself as one. Imagine a world where super-rich people hunt down others for organ trafficking. How would you feel if you were on their list?
You are a legend Arvind, in India you are the face of veganism
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
wtf is Brahmanical vegetarianism? the idea behind vegetarianism is not to consume any animal products which harm animals. You want to have meat, go ahead. don't want to have have it, that's fine too. Eating practices of individuals is none's business but their own.
stop looking to play victim card in everything. If you cannot uplift yourself even after so many social benefits, then you need to introspect your decisions in life as opposed to blaming everyone else.
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You’re amazing. Thank you. 🙏💚🙏
These people are extremely dangerous, wants to end Sanatani ecosystem by bringing all kinds of nonsense in the name of social welfare! If you want to end meat consumption, simply become vegetarian. There is no issue with milk consumption either. Small families can self sustain themselves by giving nutritious milk to their kids without worrying about capital and take care of the animal at a same time. If you want to act against animal mismanagement by people or entities, simply register complaint with the relevant authorities.
Bro seriously vegetarians want to harm animals ?
Awesome. I am vegetarian and your speeches are making great impact on me to consider to be a 'Vegan'
Why you are using brahminical words. What's wrong with it?
The questioner didn't show any good response, because his asking style showed that he came with his agenda not to get answer
Why are you using words like brahminical vegitarianism? What's the need to use that type of words?
Arvind hats off to you man. You are a master of arguing correctly and for right cause.
I’m so proud of you and proud to be vegan
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Still he is in 1947 suddenly wokeup and asking questions....
I partially disagree with arvind . I think almost majorly young hindu people start vegetarinism due to realising morals and ethics , they latter learn about veganism and adopt it gradually with mental preparation. The questionnaire and arvind both are being castist themselves in the conservation towards a particular community , they are very rigid on facts , many ancient tribes are vegetarian, so they are also casteist? Most of the vegans atleast i have met in india were brahmins . The post invasion hinduism or Ambedkar's hinduism has casteist elements . But you are blaming the young indian minds for that !!
Deeply disappointed by arvind , he's just convincing him .
Fantastic answer..!!
This was brilliant!! Hats off to Arvind!
Why are you killing plant which gives you rain and oxygen to breathe. So killing plant will cause harm to human and other animals as well. So drink only water that is the way to live without hurting anything.
If you go vegan, less plants will be "killed" for you because the animals that you eat also eat plants.
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Fantastic response, Arvind. You nailed it.
That kid was biased. However, I appreciate and admire Arvind brother for handling it beautifully and in a matured way and he also kept his calm. Hats off brother!
Well done Aravind! That was a deliberate attempt- maybe politically motivated, to equate Veganism with Casteism!! Anybody with an iota of sympathy to life, will understand that Veganism is ethics towards animals!
I feel so sorry for that guy's friends and family.
Btw the audience didn't cheered when that punk silently sat down
@BharatSharma-of9du
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
Awesome answer my Brother
respect
He was pissed, but he understood you. At 1st all applauded him and you so quickly taught them. Love it.
Hey arvind, I am diabetic and have to maintain low carb diet, but I am not sure how to maintain this by becoming vegan, I am not consuming meat after watching your video but paneer
It's not about the carbs themselves but the type of carb.....the carbs found in a bar of chocolate is not the same as that u find in chickpea s.... because there's also fibre involved.
Eat tofu instead of paneer.....it's lower in calories....no saturated fat....and also cheaper
A whole foods plant based diet is known to reverse type 2 diabetes and help with type 1 diabetes. Google it, Dr Greger
Ask a doctor Mr. Keeping yourself alive and fit is your primary duty. Other duties come later.
Nope it is just a speech good for propaganda. But in reality things go back where is is. We all live in a corporate globalist world and we cannot have nicer and good things. For every smart speech there is a corporate backing. I don't believe in animal rights activist as most of them are fake and as per recent survey most animals under under the animals rights activists were not treated well and were left to die.
Carbs are not the problem. It's the fat that is the problem.
Do pls search for "diabetes Dr Neal Barnard". You will get more of a clear understanding. Most doctors give very bad advice on these things.
More carbs (fruits, veg, grains) and less or no fats (oils etc) is ideal to control or get rid of diabetes.
It's difficult for people - even those who have experienced oppression and bias the most - to make the connection that it's wrong to do this to anyone - not just to them.
Oppressor (the questioner) is playing victim card to oppress animals(victims).
Perfectly described the whole debate brother
More power to you Brother! You are soo amazing n doing holy work! Loads of love and blessings to you 🤗♥️🧿The way you understand, listen, responds, speaks is unparallel, soo calm and compose, very logical! Hats off 🙏🏻🌸✨
Arvind you are absolutely right and very perfectly standing for Veganism... I adore Your dedication and your stand with perfect reasoning 🙏
It a little bit Strange and Narcissistic to define Your answer, SIR, as an "Epic Answer".
But yeah, I should agree that it is a really Great answer!
Lol, yeah, RUclipsrs do that like newspapers write headlines. You have to have a sensational title to get people to watch.
Though I am not a Vegan or Vegetarian, I am convinced with Arvind's reasoning and explanation..The paradoxes/ examples he was giving drawing parallel to the situation was truly fabulous
That paandi with glasses talking about untouchability is funny to watch 😂😂😂
I just wonder how will Arvind be able to make a change in real world market? How will he change the products to be only vegan products and not animal. Tbf, if he can do this then it will be amazing! Its my dream to see the world being kind to every living creature!
I support you Arvind, though i am a Vegetarian and not a Vegan, i try to practice Vegan as much as i can! I think i shall go for Soya milk and tell my parents too to stop buying cow/buffalo's milk.
This is a stupid question… 🤦🏻♂️ be it veganism or vegetarianism, it’s simply the individual’s choice. The caste system doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with what people consume. Nowadays, there are literally Brahmins who eat meat and simply don’t care. 🤷🏻♂️
Bhaiya what you take as a source of vitamin B12 , I am vegan from more than 2 years but completely ignored this factor , till now no health problem arised due to that
Take a supplement. I have a nurokind OD tablet ( 1500 mcg) once a week. Don't ignore it. B12 can be sneaky and people get nerve damage sometimes by the time it's discovered
You should start taking vitamin B12 supplements otherwise long term health issues can arise. I have been a vegan since the past few years and have been taking vitamin B12 supplements.
Get your normal blood test done included with vit b12 and vit d3.
You might consider taking tablets for b12 like Nurokind OD tablet twice per week.
Thanks to both ❤
B12 is absorbed in fat and can last you about 5 years. But this is not recommended and you should (vegan or not) be taking b12 suppliments to be safe.
Brahmanical Vegetarianism? Gujaratis, Rajasthanis, Jains and so on are wondering, when did they become Brahmins?
Such a fashion to bring in Brahmins in everything, but people are not fools, and these fools don't understand that. 😅🤣😂