Can't' wait to see your reaction to A BEAUTIFUL MIND. And thanks much for doing it. It's one of my top ten favorites and it has been so overlooked by the other reactors.
Lots of similarities between It 1&2 and The Shining/ Doctor Sleep. They're almost like the same story told in a different way. Another great line up! Superman is a fun ride and A Beautiful Mind is one of the best movies of all time. Ready or Not is a great choice. If you enjoyed it, then I would suggest looking at other good black comedies dealing with relationship goals like Fresh and the classic War of the Roses.
The scene in which "baseball boy" is killed turns my stomach every time I see it. Jacob Tremblay is an incredible young Canadian actor. Apparently, the day that scene was filmed, Jacob had his father with him on-set, and when they finished filming the scene, Jacob got up, his father high-fived him, and said, "You got this, buddy." Then they left. He's in Good Boys, too, which is a far cry from his role in this film.
Jacob was so good in that scene that he totally freaked the other actors out. Rebecca Ferguson could barely get her lines out. They also had a doll that was the dead baseball boy that they dug up, which they called Fake-ob.
The bonus features show this, and I almost had to see it because it was so hard to imagine that he could give such a performance without being actually hurt in some way. Now I wish I could tell Kubrick: "See? You don't have to torture your actors in order to get them to play a tortured character."
@@Yngvarfo I've not seen the bonus features. I trying not to collect Blu-ray and DVD, so I don't need to buy furniture to accommodate a growing collection.
@@meghanmonroe I think he's gonna have a long and successful career, if he chooses to keep acting, but I wish him the best of luck, regardless of his choices.
I loved this sequel, the people they cast as young Danny, Mrs. Torrance, and Dick Hallorann and even Jack Torrance were fantastic. Abra was absolutely amazing. and I love how the hotel was finally 'taken down' the way it was in 'The Shining' book.
The little bit at the end kind of hints that Abra in some universe is Mother Abigail from The Stand, which left me smiling like an idiot the first time I saw it. Having someone else put a connection into the King mythos is rewarding.
This was a great movie. The director had a monumental challenge to adapt the book, create a sequel to the Shining book and films. I recall that King had an interview with the director and talked. The scene where Danny recreates the scene with Lloyd from the first movie was the directors answer. King was so impressed, he gave his blessing for the film. I really hope you like this movie. Bless
King was at first forbidding Flanagan from using anything of Kubrik's The Shining to make this film, since King HATES that version and how it deviates from his book. It was sketching up that scene between Danny and Jack that convinced King to let Flanagan use it anyways and make this mix of both the film and book.
I've never seen anyone even attempt something like it! It's astonishing. It not only managed to tie both versions together, but it retroactively fixes the movie by giving it the heart and character complexity it was missing.
The one aspect that I was upset they didn't include was that Abra actually was Dan's niece, with her mom being Dan's half sister. The movie is still great but I just felt their family ties were something I really enjoyed in the novel. Plus the Knot is larger in the book with about a dozen or so left after Dan and Billy ambush them at the campsite.
Same for me. I think it says that Jack most likely had his shining squelched as a child and his son and granddaughter also manifested it. I also preferred how Jack helped Dan in the end instead of trying to tempt him.
I was so happy to hear you mention It and The Green Mile. King's version of light v. dark has essentially evolved to shining v. dimming, and I think it's fair to say that The Shining in some way appears in 90-95 percent of his work. I loved this movie and the fact that they finally jumped into (rather than dancing around) such a core element of the King universe.
Loved your reaction, and I loved this movie. Really loved seeing Zahn McClarnon as Crow Daddy. He has such an amazing screen presence. That line from Danny at the end, 'They're not special. They're starving.' The way Ewan delivers it gets me every time.
As soon as you started talking about breaking the cycle, I knew you would love this one. Mike Flannigan deals with addiction and recovery in horror like no one else. So glad you reacted to this!
@@CasualNerdReactions I recommend the haunting of hill house series on netflix. Its a beautiful ghost story. All of Flannigans things on netflix are superb
@@HaloOverOurDemise I’m in the early stages of planning and strategizing for 2023, so things will likely change but I’m thinking of doing select series and currently the haunting of hill house is sitting on my late Jan/February Wednesdays. We’ll see where it ends up, but I definitely want to watch it!
I was so surprised how good this movie was... just completely unexpected. And that whole scene at 17:00, with Jacob screaming... one of the hardest scenes to sit through and still haunts me...
Glad you ended up watching this. Such a wonderful movie and satisfying sequel. Fun fact at 16:26, the man talking about the baseball boy being able to hit the ball every time is the real life actor who played Danny in The Shining.
I was so afraid that this sequel would be like most sequels, not very good. I was pleasantly surprised. I’m glad that they didn’t try to repeat the original. Great review!
This movie goes up as one of the best sequels ever. (Most sequels disappoint, so few actually *add* to the story.) Terminator 2, Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, and this movie: some of the greatest sequels ever.
For Snakebite Andi her backstory is in the book, I recommend reading the book because it to is amazing IMO and gives more details and more development for the True Knot, like each member for example having their own unique powers. SPOILERS for the Book on Snakebite Andi below. As a child, Andi had been sexually abused by her father since she was eight years old. She remembers him saying "If they're old enough to pee, they're old enough for me". Because of this, she has a strong hatred for (and distrust of) men. When she was older, she killed him with her mothers knitting needles, by stabbing him in the crotch and then his eyes. At some point, she got a tattoo of a rattlesnake on her upper arm, with exaggerated fangs and poison dripping from one. This, and her habit of engraving men with those fangs, are what her True name comes from. She likes movies for their escapism, and would make the men trying to pick her up in bars pay for her way to them before she made them sleep, robbed them and scarred them. Part of why she scars them is so that they have to explain themselves to the women in their lives, she assumes she has picked wealthy old men who have wives and children. The last movie she saw before her Turning, where Rose, Barry the Chink, and Grampa Flick picked her up, was Raiders of the Lost Ark. Before she is turned, Rose tells her she is the first they have offered the choice to in twenty years. Also a difference in the movie from the book is Snakebite Andi didn't have mind control in the book, she could only force people to sleep albeit to a stronger capacity, making entire crowds fall asleep for the True Knot to take out the target (Like stealing a child holding on to the mother's hand in a crowd on the street)
Can I say from the very bottom of my heart...THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUSHING AWAY THE MIC WHEN EATING!!!! thank you for that consideration. thank you. ☺️
haha yes! As a headphones user I try to be very intentional about that. I PROMISE if I hadn't I would have at least taking the 5 seconds in editing to turn down the volume.
The Shining, the book, is a must read, (I recommend the audiobook while you go for walks or whatever-It’s how I read it.) The Shining film is great in its own right; however, the film is barely an adaptation of the book, but Doctor Sleep had me tearing up out of happiness for how faithful in accuracy and spirit it was. The Doctor Sleep adaptation made me an instant fan of Mike Flanagan.
He's in so many of Flanagan's stuff, and he's such an amazing actor. When Flanagan asked him if he thought he'd be able to do this scene of Jack he said just give him some time to think about it. Then couple of weeks later he came back to Flanagan and was like, right, I have a plan. I love him in Hill House, Bly Manor, and Midnight Mass too, and his small but so creepy role in Gerald's Game!
So glad you reacted to this one too. When I read the book, I loved it even more than the shining book, and re-read it immediately. Then not long after I heard it had been optioned for a film…. Then heard that my favorite contemporary horror director Mike Flanagan was taking it on and I about lost my mind with glee! Not too long after that I heard that Ewan McGregor was taking on the role of Danny and I was 110% sold. Couldn’t WAIT for it to come out and was delighted with it when I saw it opening week. ❤
Brilliant film. My fave of 2019. Mike Flanagan is my favourite working film maker/story teller. He uses horror to tell richly thematic and genuinely emotional human stories.
If you ever feel up for tackling a mini series I would highly recommend Haunting Of Hill House, by the same director as this. It's a horror show with some serious heart that will make you scream and cry equally.
Great reaction and commentary at the end! Did you notice that the office Dan was interviewed in was modeled exactly after the office Jack was interviewed in at the Overlook?
Andy's kind of tragic in that she's a foil to Danny. Danny is an example of someone who breaks the cycle and grows, whereas Andy is an example who becomes trapped in their childhood and can only escape the pain by victimizing others.
Doctor Sleep-The Directors Cut is a very worthy sequel to classic The Shining, a great cast especially Kylie Curran (Abra), also Henry Thomas (Elliot from E.T.) was really good as Jack Torrance I thought, big boots to fill, but I thought he done really well. I was well impressed with this film.!
Love love love this movie. Like we talked about on Patreon… I grew up as a kid on the Shining and I love it. This move makes The Shining better, and is still an awesome movie on its own. The complement each other so well. I joked the more I watch Dr Sleep its slowly becoming my favorite over The Shining. The three times I watched it this month may have pushed it over the top lol
Many of Steven Kings books are linked in some way. They all exist in the same “ universe “, so to speak. Characters in some of his novels are in or at least mentioned in many of his other tales. For the most part, the movies don’t really do his work justice. I have read ALL of his work. The Mr. Mercedes novels are excellent. Like a detective story but with a King twist. I know there was a tv series based on them, but I haven’t seen it. Great reaction! Rose the Hat is a great character! Terrifying! I also feel like members of the true knot might not have started out evil, but long life can change your views and make you arrogant. Time changes everything.
Some fun trivia: Rebecca Ferguson, who played Rose The Hat, had difficulty filming the Baseball Boy's torture scene. The kid's performance was so well done, Rebecca Ferguson actually had to stop a take because she was so freaked out by it. Also, when Mike Flanagan (the director) decided to adapt the novel of Doctor Sleep, he actually went to King and Stanley Kubrick's family to get permission to not just do an adaptation of the novel, but to do it as a followup to the iconic Kubrick adaptation. King was originally not a fan of Kubrick's adaptation because Kubrick removed the element of the Torrance family falling apart like that was in the original novel (leading to him being involved in a miniseries adaptation in the 1990s that was closer to the book). But, King has mellowed out and understands that Kubrick's film has become iconic, so he was okay with Flanagan adapting Doctor Sleep to fit as a followup to Kubrick's adaptation. Danny Lloyd, the actor who played Danny in the Kubrick adaptation of The Shining, is one of the patrons at the baseball game (he's the guy in the red cap that is listening to what the guy in the green cap is saying about Baseball Boy, seen at 16:28 in your video). Even though he hadn't acted in years since he appeared in The Shining, he was keen to appear in the film for a cameo after Mike Flanagan messaged him. Hallorann tells Danny, "Ka is a wheel." That is a reference to Stephen King's magnum opus The Dark Tower series. Ka is basically the term of fate/destiny in Midworld. In the multiverse created by Stephen King, a group of people that are brought together by Ka are referred as a Ka-tet. Among the multiverse, the Losers Club (It), Duddit's friends (Dreamcatcher), Stu, Larry, Ralph and Glen (The Stand) are examples of a Ka-tet. Also, the bus that Abra uses to meet with Dan in person is called "Tet Transit". This is a reference to the Tet Corporation (the company created by Roland and his group to counter the evil Sombra Corporation on Keystone Earth (our world) in the DT series also). When it comes to the flashbacks that Danny has to the Overlook when Rose the Hat is taking his steam, they are inconsistent with what is seen in The Shining. In the film, Jack chased Danny around on the first floor (through the kitchen and out of the main lobby out to the hedge maze). In the flashbacks, it's on the same floor as Room 237. This suggests that Danny may not be remembering events exactly as they had originally happened. However, it may have been an intentional reference to the original film, which the sets were designed and filmed to give an intentional confusing and conflicting architecture (one such example is what's known as "the impossible window" in the office scenes, such as the scene with Jack interviewing for the job. When it comes to the lobby, there's a hallway that is shown going behind the office, making it impossible for the window to exist in addition to it being impossible for sunlight to come in). With this film, Henry Thomas has now played new versions of two iconic horror movie characters (playing Jack Torrance in this film). He also played a young Norman Bates in Psycho IV: The Beginning (1990). The sets for the Overlook were painstakingly recreated from the blueprints used for the original film, the blueprints themselves acquired from Stanley Kubrick's estate. The Gold Room (where Danny talks to his father) was almost to the exact specifications that Kubrick had the original room made to. The demise of the Overlook Hotel in the film comes straight from the novel. It burns down due to the boiler room catching on fire. For the novel, it was Jack who was standing in the boiler room to allow for it to burn down (and the final showdown between Danny, Abra and the True Knot was on the grounds of where the Overlook stood). In the film, it's Danny. Abra referring to Danny as "Uncle Dan" is a callback to the novel of Doctor Sleep. In the novel, Abra's grandmother was a student that Jack Torrance had an affair with, thereby making Abra's mother Danny's sister and Abra his neice. That is how Abra has her shine in the novel.
@@CasualNerdReactions For actors, it is difficult having to performing scenes that may be disturbing or emotionally draining. It makes you realize how much an actor goes through (for example, a scene where a character is crying. The actors have to do that for multiple takes and multiple camera setups). But, the torture scene was necessary to show how depraved the True Knot are. It cements with the audiences just what they do to those who have the Shine, just so that they can continue to live long. And if it was disturbing for Ms. Ferguson, it certainly is disturbing for the audience.
Not as scary as THE SHINING but it does answer a lot of the ridiculous number of questions the original left hanging. And it does it without that being its main purpose. It's done rather within the context of an original story so the answers flow naturally. Even more impressive is that the writers do not feel the need to tie up all the loose ends. In other words I agree with you the writing is excellent, a worthy complement to the Kubric masterpiece.
Snakebite Annie does have a horrible background, exactly as you imagine, but she is not 15. I believe she is in her early 20's. However, she does still look very young, and she uses that to lure would be predators.
I just want to say thanks to Red Dwarf for requesting this. I really like this one, more so than The Shining as I loved the book and found the movie a little too different. I still think The Shining is very good for what it is. BTW I'm also a big fan of Red Dwarf, great show! Thanks Chris.
Wonderful examination as always. You are very sincere and I feel that your perspective both teaches and guides others to advance their own abilities to examine film and become more emotive.
I really enjoyed this movie. It reminded me of some of the weirder, "contemporary" horror-fantasy films like Nightbreed, Cat People (1982), Night Watch, or Lord of Illusions. Or on the less horror side of things, Neverwhere or the 80s Beauty & the Beast TV series. It feels like it has a rich mythology that I want to dive deeper into. I've always found it frustrating that I don't enjoy reading Stephen King, because I think his overall universe of interconnected ideas is fascinating.
Hey, Casual Nerd! "Doctor Sleep" is a masterful adaptation of the Stephen King novel of the same name. It is also the best cinematic translation of his work since Frank Darabont's "The Mist"! A sequel to one of King's tentpole titles, "The Shining", which itself was adapted into an iconic film by Stanley Kubrick, this elegant, character-driven narrative satisfies fans of both novels and the previous movie alike. The story opens by tracking young Danny Torrance's life from mere months after his traumatizing experience at the haunted Overlook Hotel which claimed his alcoholic father through a lonely, dissolute adulthood as he struggles with the bottle himself. He uses drink to suppress his Shining which is a psionic hodge-podge of ESPer traits such as telepathy, empathy, remote viewing, precognition and communing with the dead. What King does with the sequel is the litmus test for justifying any sequel: he expands the mythology immeasurably from Danny's solitary struggle into a wider world. At a two and a half hour running time which incredibly flies by, director Mike Flanagan, of "Oculus", "The Haunting of Hill House" and "Midnight Mass", takes pains to immerse the viewer into the lives of a psychic trio: damaged psychic Danny, Omega-level psychic tween Abra and predatory psychic Rose the Hat. As played by Ewan McGregor, Danny reeks of despair and quiet desperation finally hitting rock bottom in the moribund embrace of a coke-head single mom. His questionable choices and downward spiral are alleviated by the sole comfort he has left: the admonishing visitations of the only other Shiner he ever knew, Dick Hallorann, an elderly black man who came to his aid at the Overlook. Now dead, Hallorann still communes with his psychic ward even providing him with the tools to confront the damned souls from the hotel who have trailed Danny his entire life drawn as they are to his Shine. His existence is finally re-framed when two things occur: a good Samaritan pulls him out of the gutter putting him on the road to sobriety and he makes contact with the most powerful Shining he has ever experienced! Enter Abra: a precocious girl from an affluent family who makes Danny into a psychic pen pal. Played by young Kyleigh Curran, she is entrancing from first to last and she helps Danny derive some joy from the gift he has always felt was his curse. However, every gift has a dark side and, in Rose the Hat, a centuries-old Irish Gypsy played with seductive relish by Rebecca Ferguson, King presents an aspect of the Shining that is diabolical. Moreover, it represents a choice every Shiner must make about how to employ their abilities. Once the triumvirate are in place, the plot kicks into gear as the three players engage in a cross-country cat-and-mouse game for control ultimately leaving our heroes with no alternative than to confront their enemy in the most perilous place of all: the Overlook. While dutifully faithful to the book up to this point, the ending is radically different and dovetails with Kubrick's vision of "The Shining" as the one most accepted by the general public. King notoriously took issue with the changes made in that adaptation and had to be convinced to allow the necessary changes made to the sequel. Flanagan even added the crucial boiler set piece that should have been in "The Shining" and finally gets its due here perhaps as a way of assuaging the author's defensiveness. Whatever qualms King may or may not have, the result is a thrilling conclusion that not only scrupulously recreates several beloved Kubrickian scenarios but that also enhances the book by bringing the characters full circle! King and Flanagan should be proud because their collaboration has yielded a mature horror film that contains all the trademarks of King's universe: the roiling malevolence lurking beneath placid normalcy, the terrible price good people must pay, the fateful decision to make a stand and the power to Shine brightly against the endless dark.
Stephen King's' universe is connected. The True Knot would use pain and fear to purify and flavor the steam (like salting meat), if you remember that in "It" Pennywise did the same thing to the whole town of Derry. All of the Losers club had the Shine. Even John Coffey from The Green Mile had the Shining. Think of all the characters in King novels that have powers all have the Shining.
The cat-scene is from real life. There was a hospice for the dying, and the cat always went into the room of those who were about to die. (I shit you not)
The Shinning is passed down in bloodlines. Jack had a touch of it and it's possible so did his wife, Danny had a continent and his niece Abra had an ocean. The thing is the knot have gone after the strongest they could find so they're bloodline didn't continue hence less 'steam' in the world. You should read the book, it's awesome and baseball boy 100% gets his revenge after death. The movie used the original ending of the shinning book (Jack has enough of himself left to 'forget' about the boiler) but in the Dr.Sleep book the ending takes place on the land the Overlook once was and Dan and Billy both live. You should read it but if you don't Andy was raped by her father.
If you loved this you will love Haunting of Hill House (Netflix) and the other series director Mike Flanagan wrote and directed. Some of them star Henry Thomas (Elliott from E.T. all grown up, who plays the bartender in this movie). I don't know if you ever plan to do TV series on this channel, but Mike Flanagan's Netflix series are short (8-10 episodes per series) and GREAT.
Wonderful reaction, I like how you picked up on the feeding of the shine/fear is similar to It (which is similar to the evil in other novels as well, possibly all the same/interconnected).
@@CasualNerdReactions There is also another like the Clown in IT, his name is Dandelo and he feeds on emotions especially uncontrollable laughter that he invokes on his victims.
Mike Flanagan also directed Gerald's Game which is another excellent adaptation of a Stephen King book - it was written as a companion piece to Dolores Claiborne, and uses the same eclipse for a pivotal scene. The movie features a couple of Flanagan's favourite actors who were in Dr Sleep too, Bruce Greenwood and Henry Thomas (once again playing a small but very creepy role)
One thing they don't tell you in the movie ( they do in the book) is that Jack is Abra's grandfather. He had an affair with her grandmother who he worked with at a school. That's why she called Dan, her uncle
This was an outstanding film. The actress who played Abra was amazing in the role. Carl Lumbly captures Crother's essence. The whole film is very good, but it is taken to another level when it returns to the Overlook. In the end, it honors the creativity of both Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick - not an easy feat.
I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but Jack Torrance, in this film, is played the by the actor who played ELLIOT in "E.T.". Now you can't unsee it :)
Loved your reaction! In the book (spoiler), Abra's mom is actually the illegitimate daughter of Jack Torrence. Abra seems to know this: she says that he's Uncle Dan, and that it's not really a lie. This movie does an extraordinary job of being a sequel to both the original book and film. The film is much better than the book, by the way. There is a lot of dialog in the last 10 minutes of this film that comes from the original The Shining book (and wasn't used in the Kubrick film). And Kyliegh Curran (Abra) is an AMAZING actress. I'm surprised she hasn't had more work. She's good in Secrets of Sulphur Springs, but that's nothing deep, just a fun ride. If she can get the work, she'll win an Oscar some day.
In the novel, that sense of community Rose mentions is very well explored and explained. She is basically the story's co-protagonist, and even if not close to every single one of the vamps conforming the True, she shows kindness and love towards them. Its a juxtaposition to her child-killing endeavors. An example being that, after a member of the True dies, they basically mourn for 7 days. There's no steam, no idle talking, and no sex during those days. And all they do is meditate. After that week passes, they each place a thing/trinket that reminds them of the person that died on a piece of linen, wrap it, and bury it. Because steam vamps leave no body behind. They show all this humanity, yet they lack it while hunting and killing prey. After all, in their eyes, steam is food, aka the pain and fear from young shiners is food, without it they cease to exist. If a child needs to suffer, then that's just part of the process, similar to how many animals are killed in order for humans to eat. That's their morality. Rose The Hat is such a compelling character. Many fans, including me, have wanted a prequel explaining her origin and how she came to be The True Knot's leader.
I love this film - it wove together 3 different endings (book/movie/book) perfectly. I also think this movie is better than the book, especially with the death of The Knot. In the King universe Danny actually is Abra's (1/2) uncle. Abra's mom is the illegitimate daughter of one of Jacks students when he was teaching collage. King wrote Dr. Sleep because Danny was the only character that he had ever written that he wondered whatever happened to them.
What I love about this movie and the Top Gun sequel is that they didn't churn out sequels one or two years after the originals. Both took decades and ended up creating movies that were just as good and, in some ways, better than the originals. The sequels are unique. While their stories have the foundation of the original movies they don't rely on them to continue.
Aweaome movie! I always wondered how the true knot didnt know about danny. And snakebite andy is a pusher or mental domination like andy mcgee from firestarter. I wonder if the mcgee family is considered "steam" since theyre abilities either came from or were enhanced via the shops lot six program. What would they make of charlie mcgee who also has other powers besides pyrokenises. Or maybe theyd think they were just mutants since in the book its theorized their chromosomes/dna has been altered. Rwmber in the book unlike other shiners, when charlie uses her abilities it doesnt really hurt or drain her, quite the opposite really. Great reaction as always!
Room 217 is the room in the book the shining. It’s not 237. Fun note- the actor playing Jack Torrance is none other than Henry Thomas. He is the little boy in E.T.
(Regarding your aftrthought) It hasn't been like this the whole time. I was taught not to talk to strangers. But, once when I was about 8 I was walking a long way home, and a taxi-driver was changing tire. I asked if he needed help. He said "Thanks, but I got this". 10 min later a taxi drove up beside me and he asked if I was the boy who offered help. I said "yes". he said jump in, I'll drive you to where you're going. It was just a 10 min walk left, but he appreciated the way I behaved. Nowadays that is supposed to be dangerous. (This was 1979, btw)
Another Fun Fact: The actor who played the baseball boy, Jacob Tremblay, performed so realistically that he scared all of the adult actors in the scene. Rebecca Ferguson was brought to tears by him.
This Film is for my money (Having seen it in the theater in person back in 2019), one of the greatest sequels ever made. And that includes films like the Godfather Pt. II and the Empire Strikes Back , or Any other sequel for that matter. Mostly because it simultaneously, saves the original intention of Steven Kings "The Shinning" Book, while also paying off, and expanding upon the greater intensity of Kubrick's Original Masterpiece as a film. I think the film plays it's cards strait down the middle of both adaptations SO well, It has to be a head candidate for both one the best sequels of all time, as well as one of My favorite movies released in the last 10 to 15 years period! which would place in running for one the best sequels of all time. Period. This is a movie that pays homage to the original Book & Film so well, It somehow manages to HEAL a kind pf psychic rift between the Great Artists of King and Kubrick I might have never thought was possible. Or at least that's How I see it....
Haven't seen the full video yet, but have to comment on what you said about it being about characters more than trying to be like a Kubrick movie. A Stephen King story is ALWAYS character driven. That is what he does best, and that is also why he continues to be successful no matter what genre he dips his toes into. And the director of this movie (Mike Flanagan) is a huge King fan who take care of the characters. I'm afraid Kubrick either didn't understand Jack, Wendy and Danny, or he was too arrogant to care. And that is the main problem King had and still have, with Kubrick's version of The shining.
I really like this movie because to me it's a tribute to the original people from the Shining in 1980. I'm a Jack Nicholson fan so I really liked this movie so much.
While I'm not a fan of the Kubrick film, I think changing the ending of the Doctor Sleep book from what's left of the burned down Overlook to the interior of the still standing hotel was an improvement. I understand the director asked King's permission to change the setting of the ending since King famously did not like Kubrick's film. I remember seeing King joke that Warner Bros only gave him the rights to do a TV mini-series version of The Shining if he'd promise to stop bad-mouthing the Kubrick film.
@@CasualNerdReactions It's more than just the look of the office. Dr. Dalton also mimics a few distinctive poses and gestures that Ullman did. Compare the pose with the head tilted to his right (screen's left) and with elbows on the desk, the right hand overlaps the left hand from the top, rather than the side. It's an unusual hand movement. Both have a resemblance to JFK as well. With Ullman it's most notable in the hairstyle. The guy who played the doctor, Bruce Greenwood, his hair is shorter, but he portrayed JFK in the movie _Thirteen Days_ . Kubrick and King were both old enough to remember the Kennedy years. (also worth mentioning, the inclusion of 'Elm Street' in Doctor. Sleep, although some people only see that as a nod to another horror movie, the title for 'Nightmare on Elm Street' does also refer to the fact that JFK was on Elm St in Dealey Plaza when he was assassinated. )
Given your reaction to these two movies, you would probably like the Mike Flannigan oeuvre - The Haunting of Hill House, Bly Manor, Midnight Mass. Episodic, not stand alone movies. Worth a toe dip anyway.
It’s basically a reactor-fan case of “You saw Movie X, now you have to see Movie Y!”, but it died a quick death at the theaters: King had written a Shining sequel novel, but Warner was desperately going through their 80’s brandnames for a “new franchise,”, had caught on Shining being an.”80’s classic” after Ready Player One, and if King hadn’t written a sequel, THEY would have.
OMG...huge Stephen King reader here. And of course I read the Shining...and I actually wasn't that big of a fan of Doctor Sleep as a novel. I mean it was ok..but I actually enjoyed the movie a bit more TBH. Also...dang, you're almost at 10K dude! Woohoo!
loved ur synopsis. The fact that they preyed on children was just a bit too sickening to me so was good to watch with you and get the edits. Really interesting sequel and so well done. I have to admit I'm looking forward to the end of the horror movies; )
Shining + Doctor Sleep need to be watched together. I saw the Shining first time and found it boring, believe it or not. I couldn’t complete it back then. Couple years ago I tried it again and got it. But just I saw the sequel Doctor Sleep I could appreciate the whole story eventually. The acting in both movies is on another level. And I do like the characters Stephen King created.
I simply adore this movie, one of those rare sequels that don't retread the original. Stephen King is awesome. I just have so much trouble at the baseball kids death, it's a very very hard scene to watch, almost too graphic for me.
It's best not to empathize with the bad guys in a Stephen King adaptation. His style is that everyone but the main characters are irredeemable jerks. No tragic backstory for villains, that's what makes for good villains.
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Oh Hereditary, can't wait until you discover the "CLUCK", sound. You will remember!!!
Can't' wait to see your reaction to A BEAUTIFUL MIND. And thanks much for doing it. It's one of my top ten favorites and it has been so overlooked by the other reactors.
Beautiful Mind and Superman 👍👍
Lots of similarities between It 1&2 and The Shining/ Doctor Sleep. They're almost like the same story told in a different way.
Another great line up! Superman is a fun ride and A Beautiful Mind is one of the best movies of all time. Ready or Not is a great choice. If you enjoyed it, then I would suggest looking at other good black comedies dealing with relationship goals like Fresh and the classic War of the Roses.
Fun Fact: The actor who plays the ghost of Jack Torrance is Henry Thomas aka Elliott from E.T. the extraterrestrial
Also, the guy at the baseball game who talks about Bradley is Danny Lloyd who played Danny in the original Kubrick film.
The scene in which "baseball boy" is killed turns my stomach every time I see it. Jacob Tremblay is an incredible young Canadian actor. Apparently, the day that scene was filmed, Jacob had his father with him on-set, and when they finished filming the scene, Jacob got up, his father high-fived him, and said, "You got this, buddy." Then they left. He's in Good Boys, too, which is a far cry from his role in this film.
Jacob was so good in that scene that he totally freaked the other actors out. Rebecca Ferguson could barely get her lines out.
They also had a doll that was the dead baseball boy that they dug up, which they called Fake-ob.
The bonus features show this, and I almost had to see it because it was so hard to imagine that he could give such a performance without being actually hurt in some way.
Now I wish I could tell Kubrick: "See? You don't have to torture your actors in order to get them to play a tortured character."
@@Yngvarfo I've not seen the bonus features. I trying not to collect Blu-ray and DVD, so I don't need to buy furniture to accommodate a growing collection.
He was great in Room, as well.
@@meghanmonroe I think he's gonna have a long and successful career, if he chooses to keep acting, but I wish him the best of luck, regardless of his choices.
I loved this sequel, the people they cast as young Danny, Mrs. Torrance, and Dick Hallorann and even Jack Torrance were fantastic. Abra was absolutely amazing. and I love how the hotel was finally 'taken down' the way it was in 'The Shining' book.
Fun fact, 16:26 cameo by the real actor Danny Lloyd who played the child, Danny Torrance from the original Shining. The one who did the talking.
I forgot that! Thanks for pointing that out.
That’s amazing! Great tidbit.
The little bit at the end kind of hints that Abra in some universe is Mother Abigail from The Stand, which left me smiling like an idiot the first time I saw it. Having someone else put a connection into the King mythos is rewarding.
This was a great movie. The director had a monumental challenge to adapt the book, create a sequel to the Shining book and films.
I recall that King had an interview with the director and talked. The scene where Danny recreates the scene with Lloyd from the first movie was the directors answer.
King was so impressed, he gave his blessing for the film.
I really hope you like this movie. Bless
King was at first forbidding Flanagan from using anything of Kubrik's The Shining to make this film, since King HATES that version and how it deviates from his book. It was sketching up that scene between Danny and Jack that convinced King to let Flanagan use it anyways and make this mix of both the film and book.
I've never seen anyone even attempt something like it! It's astonishing. It not only managed to tie both versions together, but it retroactively fixes the movie by giving it the heart and character complexity it was missing.
"They're not special....They're STARVING!!" the best line in the film!!!
100% a brilliant line.
The one aspect that I was upset they didn't include was that Abra actually was Dan's niece, with her mom being Dan's half sister. The movie is still great but I just felt their family ties were something I really enjoyed in the novel. Plus the Knot is larger in the book with about a dozen or so left after Dan and Billy ambush them at the campsite.
Same for me. I think it says that Jack most likely had his shining squelched as a child and his son and granddaughter also manifested it. I also preferred how Jack helped Dan in the end instead of trying to tempt him.
I was so happy to hear you mention It and The Green Mile. King's version of light v. dark has essentially evolved to shining v. dimming, and I think it's fair to say that The Shining in some way appears in 90-95 percent of his work. I loved this movie and the fact that they finally jumped into (rather than dancing around) such a core element of the King universe.
Man, Rebecca is both terrific and absolutely terrifying in this movie.
Loved your reaction, and I loved this movie. Really loved seeing Zahn McClarnon as Crow Daddy. He has such an amazing screen presence. That line from Danny at the end, 'They're not special. They're starving.' The way Ewan delivers it gets me every time.
As soon as you started talking about breaking the cycle, I knew you would love this one. Mike Flannigan deals with addiction and recovery in horror like no one else. So glad you reacted to this!
Definitely going to check out more of mike flannigan’s work in the e future!
@@CasualNerdReactions I recommend the haunting of hill house series on netflix. Its a beautiful ghost story. All of Flannigans things on netflix are superb
@@HaloOverOurDemise I’m in the early stages of planning and strategizing for 2023, so things will likely change but I’m thinking of doing select series and currently the haunting of hill house is sitting on my late Jan/February Wednesdays. We’ll see where it ends up, but I definitely want to watch it!
I was so surprised how good this movie was... just completely unexpected.
And that whole scene at 17:00, with Jacob screaming... one of the hardest scenes to sit through and still haunts me...
Really great film, one of the best sequels I've ever seen. Didn't get the box office returns it deserved.
Glad you ended up watching this. Such a wonderful movie and satisfying sequel. Fun fact at 16:26, the man talking about the baseball boy being able to hit the ball every time is the real life actor who played Danny in The Shining.
I was so afraid that this sequel would be like most sequels, not very good. I was pleasantly surprised. I’m glad that they didn’t try to repeat the original. Great review!
This movie goes up as one of the best sequels ever. (Most sequels disappoint, so few actually *add* to the story.) Terminator 2, Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, and this movie: some of the greatest sequels ever.
For Snakebite Andi her backstory is in the book, I recommend reading the book because it to is amazing IMO and gives more details and more development for the True Knot, like each member for example having their own unique powers. SPOILERS for the Book on Snakebite Andi below.
As a child, Andi had been sexually abused by her father since she was eight years old. She remembers him saying "If they're old enough to pee, they're old enough for me". Because of this, she has a strong hatred for (and distrust of) men. When she was older, she killed him with her mothers knitting needles, by stabbing him in the crotch and then his eyes. At some point, she got a tattoo of a rattlesnake on her upper arm, with exaggerated fangs and poison dripping from one. This, and her habit of engraving men with those fangs, are what her True name comes from.
She likes movies for their escapism, and would make the men trying to pick her up in bars pay for her way to them before she made them sleep, robbed them and scarred them. Part of why she scars them is so that they have to explain themselves to the women in their lives, she assumes she has picked wealthy old men who have wives and children. The last movie she saw before her Turning, where Rose, Barry the Chink, and Grampa Flick picked her up, was Raiders of the Lost Ark. Before she is turned, Rose tells her she is the first they have offered the choice to in twenty years.
Also a difference in the movie from the book is Snakebite Andi didn't have mind control in the book, she could only force people to sleep albeit to a stronger capacity, making entire crowds fall asleep for the True Knot to take out the target (Like stealing a child holding on to the mother's hand in a crowd on the street)
Can I say from the very bottom of my heart...THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUSHING AWAY THE MIC WHEN EATING!!!! thank you for that consideration. thank you. ☺️
haha yes! As a headphones user I try to be very intentional about that. I PROMISE if I hadn't I would have at least taking the 5 seconds in editing to turn down the volume.
The Shining, the book, is a must read, (I recommend the audiobook while you go for walks or whatever-It’s how I read it.) The Shining film is great in its own right; however, the film is barely an adaptation of the book, but Doctor Sleep had me tearing up out of happiness for how faithful in accuracy and spirit it was. The Doctor Sleep adaptation made me an instant fan of Mike Flanagan.
I actually have been thinking about getting the shining audiobook! This film made me want to watch more of Mike’s work, that’s for sure.
Anyone notice that Jack Torrance is played by Elliot (E.T.)?
He's in so many of Flanagan's stuff, and he's such an amazing actor. When Flanagan asked him if he thought he'd be able to do this scene of Jack he said just give him some time to think about it. Then couple of weeks later he came back to Flanagan and was like, right, I have a plan.
I love him in Hill House, Bly Manor, and Midnight Mass too, and his small but so creepy role in Gerald's Game!
So glad you reacted to this one too. When I read the book, I loved it even more than the shining book, and re-read it immediately. Then not long after I heard it had been optioned for a film…. Then heard that my favorite contemporary horror director Mike Flanagan was taking it on and I about lost my mind with glee! Not too long after that I heard that Ewan McGregor was taking on the role of Danny and I was 110% sold. Couldn’t WAIT for it to come out and was delighted with it when I saw it opening week. ❤
I love the perfect storm of this movie for you!
This should have been a bigger hit..🎬
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Agree... thinking the pandemic had something to do with the low impact 👍
Brilliant film. My fave of 2019. Mike Flanagan is my favourite working film maker/story teller. He uses horror to tell richly thematic and genuinely emotional human stories.
Very cool. I want to check out more of his films at some point for sure.
I love this movie!! It's totally different from the first one and they are both really REALLY good on their own
If you ever feel up for tackling a mini series I would highly recommend Haunting Of Hill House, by the same director as this. It's a horror show with some serious heart that will make you scream and cry equally.
Honestly, I’ve been thinking of doing some series and specifically because of Mike, I may give that one a shot!
Great reaction and commentary at the end! Did you notice that the office Dan was interviewed in was modeled exactly after the office Jack was interviewed in at the Overlook?
I didn’t, but one one of my patrons noticed a couple similarities like that and gave it a lot of thought.
Andy's kind of tragic in that she's a foil to Danny. Danny is an example of someone who breaks the cycle and grows, whereas Andy is an example who becomes trapped in their childhood and can only escape the pain by victimizing others.
Doctor Sleep-The Directors Cut is a very worthy sequel to classic The Shining, a great cast especially Kylie Curran (Abra), also Henry Thomas (Elliot from E.T.) was really good as Jack Torrance I thought, big boots to fill, but I thought he done really well. I was well impressed with this film.!
Love love love this movie. Like we talked about on Patreon… I grew up as a kid on the Shining and I love it. This move makes The Shining better, and is still an awesome movie on its own. The complement each other so well. I joked the more I watch Dr Sleep its slowly becoming my favorite over The Shining. The three times I watched it this month may have pushed it over the top lol
Many of Steven Kings books are linked in some way. They all exist in the same “ universe “, so to speak. Characters in some of his novels are in or at least mentioned in many of his other tales. For the most part, the movies don’t really do his work justice. I have read ALL of his work. The Mr. Mercedes novels are excellent. Like a detective story but with a King twist. I know there was a tv series based on them, but I haven’t seen it. Great reaction! Rose the Hat is a great character! Terrifying! I also feel like members of the true knot might not have started out evil, but long life can change your views and make you arrogant. Time changes everything.
Doctor Sleep theatrical cut runtime is 152 mins.
Doctor Sleep director's cut runtime is 180 mins.
Some fun trivia:
Rebecca Ferguson, who played Rose The Hat, had difficulty filming the Baseball Boy's torture scene. The kid's performance was so well done, Rebecca Ferguson actually had to stop a take because she was so freaked out by it.
Also, when Mike Flanagan (the director) decided to adapt the novel of Doctor Sleep, he actually went to King and Stanley Kubrick's family to get permission to not just do an adaptation of the novel, but to do it as a followup to the iconic Kubrick adaptation. King was originally not a fan of Kubrick's adaptation because Kubrick removed the element of the Torrance family falling apart like that was in the original novel (leading to him being involved in a miniseries adaptation in the 1990s that was closer to the book). But, King has mellowed out and understands that Kubrick's film has become iconic, so he was okay with Flanagan adapting Doctor Sleep to fit as a followup to Kubrick's adaptation.
Danny Lloyd, the actor who played Danny in the Kubrick adaptation of The Shining, is one of the patrons at the baseball game (he's the guy in the red cap that is listening to what the guy in the green cap is saying about Baseball Boy, seen at 16:28 in your video). Even though he hadn't acted in years since he appeared in The Shining, he was keen to appear in the film for a cameo after Mike Flanagan messaged him.
Hallorann tells Danny, "Ka is a wheel." That is a reference to Stephen King's magnum opus The Dark Tower series. Ka is basically the term of fate/destiny in Midworld. In the multiverse created by Stephen King, a group of people that are brought together by Ka are referred as a Ka-tet. Among the multiverse, the Losers Club (It), Duddit's friends (Dreamcatcher), Stu, Larry, Ralph and Glen (The Stand) are examples of a Ka-tet. Also, the bus that Abra uses to meet with Dan in person is called "Tet Transit". This is a reference to the Tet Corporation (the company created by Roland and his group to counter the evil Sombra Corporation on Keystone Earth (our world) in the DT series also).
When it comes to the flashbacks that Danny has to the Overlook when Rose the Hat is taking his steam, they are inconsistent with what is seen in The Shining. In the film, Jack chased Danny around on the first floor (through the kitchen and out of the main lobby out to the hedge maze). In the flashbacks, it's on the same floor as Room 237. This suggests that Danny may not be remembering events exactly as they had originally happened. However, it may have been an intentional reference to the original film, which the sets were designed and filmed to give an intentional confusing and conflicting architecture (one such example is what's known as "the impossible window" in the office scenes, such as the scene with Jack interviewing for the job. When it comes to the lobby, there's a hallway that is shown going behind the office, making it impossible for the window to exist in addition to it being impossible for sunlight to come in).
With this film, Henry Thomas has now played new versions of two iconic horror movie characters (playing Jack Torrance in this film). He also played a young Norman Bates in Psycho IV: The Beginning (1990).
The sets for the Overlook were painstakingly recreated from the blueprints used for the original film, the blueprints themselves acquired from Stanley Kubrick's estate. The Gold Room (where Danny talks to his father) was almost to the exact specifications that Kubrick had the original room made to.
The demise of the Overlook Hotel in the film comes straight from the novel. It burns down due to the boiler room catching on fire. For the novel, it was Jack who was standing in the boiler room to allow for it to burn down (and the final showdown between Danny, Abra and the True Knot was on the grounds of where the Overlook stood). In the film, it's Danny.
Abra referring to Danny as "Uncle Dan" is a callback to the novel of Doctor Sleep. In the novel, Abra's grandmother was a student that Jack Torrance had an affair with, thereby making Abra's mother Danny's sister and Abra his neice. That is how Abra has her shine in the novel.
A lot of great information, but I absolutely love that Rebecca Ferguson stopped the scene. Can only imagine how difficult it would be to do that.
@@CasualNerdReactions For actors, it is difficult having to performing scenes that may be disturbing or emotionally draining. It makes you realize how much an actor goes through (for example, a scene where a character is crying. The actors have to do that for multiple takes and multiple camera setups). But, the torture scene was necessary to show how depraved the True Knot are. It cements with the audiences just what they do to those who have the Shine, just so that they can continue to live long. And if it was disturbing for Ms. Ferguson, it certainly is disturbing for the audience.
What an amazing sequel directed by Mike Flanagan, who also directed 2 of my favorite horror TV shows: The Haunting of Hill House and Midnight Mass.
Excited to check out more of his work!
Not as scary as THE SHINING but it does answer a lot of the ridiculous number of questions the original left hanging. And it does it without that being its main purpose. It's done rather within the context of an original story so the answers flow naturally. Even more impressive is that the writers do not feel the need to tie up all the loose ends. In other words I agree with you the writing is excellent, a worthy complement to the Kubric masterpiece.
Snakebite Annie does have a horrible background, exactly as you imagine, but she is not 15. I believe she is in her early 20's. However, she does still look very young, and she uses that to lure would be predators.
I've been saying for years....please give us a prequel to the True Knots! I love Rose the Hat!!!
Thank you Red Dwarf! I love this movie :)
I just want to say thanks to Red Dwarf for requesting this. I really like this one, more so than The Shining as I loved the book and found the movie a little too different. I still think The Shining is very good for what it is. BTW I'm also a big fan of Red Dwarf, great show! Thanks Chris.
Thanks, fellow Smeghead!
@@reddwarf9422 LOL
Wonderful examination as always. You are very sincere and I feel that your perspective both teaches and guides others to advance their own abilities to examine film and become more emotive.
Thanks so much!
The thing in the book that wasn’t in the movie (and I wish it had been) was that Dan really WAS Abra’s uncle
The boiler blows up in The Shining book.
The Overlook's charred remains also show up in Billy Summers.
I really enjoyed this movie. It reminded me of some of the weirder, "contemporary" horror-fantasy films like Nightbreed, Cat People (1982), Night Watch, or Lord of Illusions. Or on the less horror side of things, Neverwhere or the 80s Beauty & the Beast TV series. It feels like it has a rich mythology that I want to dive deeper into.
I've always found it frustrating that I don't enjoy reading Stephen King, because I think his overall universe of interconnected ideas is fascinating.
Hey, Casual Nerd! "Doctor Sleep" is a masterful adaptation of the Stephen King novel of the same name. It is also the best cinematic translation of his work since Frank Darabont's "The Mist"! A sequel to one of King's tentpole titles, "The Shining", which itself was adapted into an iconic film by Stanley Kubrick, this elegant, character-driven narrative satisfies fans of both novels and the previous movie alike.
The story opens by tracking young Danny Torrance's life from mere months after his traumatizing experience at the haunted Overlook Hotel which claimed his alcoholic father through a lonely, dissolute adulthood as he struggles with the bottle himself. He uses drink to suppress his Shining which is a psionic hodge-podge of ESPer traits such as telepathy, empathy, remote viewing, precognition and communing with the dead. What King does with the sequel is the litmus test for justifying any sequel: he expands the mythology immeasurably from Danny's solitary struggle into a wider world. At a two and a half hour running time which incredibly flies by, director Mike Flanagan, of "Oculus", "The Haunting of Hill House" and "Midnight Mass", takes pains to immerse the viewer into the lives of a psychic trio: damaged psychic Danny, Omega-level psychic tween Abra and predatory psychic Rose the Hat.
As played by Ewan McGregor, Danny reeks of despair and quiet desperation finally hitting rock bottom in the moribund embrace of a coke-head single mom. His questionable choices and downward spiral are alleviated by the sole comfort he has left: the admonishing visitations of the only other Shiner he ever knew, Dick Hallorann, an elderly black man who came to his aid at the Overlook. Now dead, Hallorann still communes with his psychic ward even providing him with the tools to confront the damned souls from the hotel who have trailed Danny his entire life drawn as they are to his Shine. His existence is finally re-framed when two things occur: a good Samaritan pulls him out of the gutter putting him on the road to sobriety and he makes contact with the most powerful Shining he has ever experienced!
Enter Abra: a precocious girl from an affluent family who makes Danny into a psychic pen pal. Played by young Kyleigh Curran, she is entrancing from first to last and she helps Danny derive some joy from the gift he has always felt was his curse. However, every gift has a dark side and, in Rose the Hat, a centuries-old Irish Gypsy played with seductive relish by Rebecca Ferguson, King presents an aspect of the Shining that is diabolical. Moreover, it represents a choice every Shiner must make about how to employ their abilities. Once the triumvirate are in place, the plot kicks into gear as the three players engage in a cross-country cat-and-mouse game for control ultimately leaving our heroes with no alternative than to confront their enemy in the most perilous place of all: the Overlook.
While dutifully faithful to the book up to this point, the ending is radically different and dovetails with Kubrick's vision of "The Shining" as the one most accepted by the general public. King notoriously took issue with the changes made in that adaptation and had to be convinced to allow the necessary changes made to the sequel. Flanagan even added the crucial boiler set piece that should have been in "The Shining" and finally gets its due here perhaps as a way of assuaging the author's defensiveness.
Whatever qualms King may or may not have, the result is a thrilling conclusion that not only scrupulously recreates several beloved Kubrickian scenarios but that also enhances the book by bringing the characters full circle! King and Flanagan should be proud because their collaboration has yielded a mature horror film that contains all the trademarks of King's universe: the roiling malevolence lurking beneath placid normalcy, the terrible price good people must pay, the fateful decision to make a stand and the power to Shine brightly against the endless dark.
Well...hi there! I love this movie. Everyone in it is fantastic & I love how well they recreated The Overlook.
Stephen King's' universe is connected. The True Knot would use pain and fear to purify and flavor the steam (like salting meat), if you remember that in "It" Pennywise did the same thing to the whole town of Derry. All of the Losers club had the Shine. Even John Coffey from The Green Mile had the Shining. Think of all the characters in King novels that have powers all have the Shining.
The cat-scene is from real life. There was a hospice for the dying, and the cat always went into the room of those who were about to die. (I shit you not)
That’s pretty amazing.
The Shinning is passed down in bloodlines. Jack had a touch of it and it's possible so did his wife, Danny had a continent and his niece Abra had an ocean. The thing is the knot have gone after the strongest they could find so they're bloodline didn't continue hence less 'steam' in the world.
You should read the book, it's awesome and baseball boy 100% gets his revenge after death. The movie used the original ending of the shinning book (Jack has enough of himself left to 'forget' about the boiler) but in the Dr.Sleep book the ending takes place on the land the Overlook once was and Dan and Billy both live. You should read it but if you don't Andy was raped by her father.
If you loved this you will love Haunting of Hill House (Netflix) and the other series director Mike Flanagan wrote and directed. Some of them star Henry Thomas (Elliott from E.T. all grown up, who plays the bartender in this movie). I don't know if you ever plan to do TV series on this channel, but Mike Flanagan's Netflix series are short (8-10 episodes per series) and GREAT.
I definitely wanna check those out down the road!!
I love your feelings on Annie being a victim, but they probably all were (and I love that you came to that conclusion as you continued talking).
Wonderful reaction, I like how you picked up on the feeding of the shine/fear is similar to It (which is similar to the evil in other novels as well, possibly all the same/interconnected).
It’s so much easier to see now how the shine shows itself in other stories.
@@CasualNerdReactions There is also another like the Clown in IT, his name is Dandelo and he feeds on emotions especially uncontrollable laughter that he invokes on his victims.
Mike Flanagan also directed Gerald's Game which is another excellent adaptation of a Stephen King book - it was written as a companion piece to Dolores Claiborne, and uses the same eclipse for a pivotal scene.
The movie features a couple of Flanagan's favourite actors who were in Dr Sleep too, Bruce Greenwood and Henry Thomas (once again playing a small but very creepy role)
Regarding Grady, I've always thought that Charles took on the role of Delbert just like Jack took on the role of Lloyd the bartender in this movie.
That seems very likely!
One thing they don't tell you in the movie ( they do in the book) is that Jack is Abra's grandfather. He had an affair with her grandmother who he worked with at a school. That's why she called Dan, her uncle
They definitely left that out!
The movies so good, but like always the book is better.
@@joshfacio9379 i never finished the book. I've heard from people that like the movie ending better. I'll finish it someday
".....Stop It!... just let me eat my Chex Mix.....that's fine..." HILARIOUS.
this is the first reaction i've seen of yours and i have to say that i really enjoy hearing your perspective. you've earned a new sub :)
Welcome to the channel, Taylor!
I was surprised how much I loved this movie.
Me too!
This was an outstanding film. The actress who played Abra was amazing in the role. Carl Lumbly captures Crother's essence. The whole film is very good, but it is taken to another level when it returns to the Overlook. In the end, it honors the creativity of both Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick - not an easy feat.
Completely agree all around. I have seen Carl lumbly before and didn’t even recognize him until I looked up who played the role.
I'm so glad you did this reaction. It's how I found your channel. Subbed.
I don't know if anyone pointed this out, but Jack Torrance, in this film, is played the by the actor who played ELLIOT in "E.T.". Now you can't unsee it :)
Love this movie, i like the journey type of movies. Change takes time.
Agreed!
30:48 Did you recognise him ? That's Henry Thomas keeping bar, Elliott from ET !
I didn’t! I discovered it when reading about the film afterward and thought it was pretty cool.
Loved your reaction! In the book (spoiler), Abra's mom is actually the illegitimate daughter of Jack Torrence. Abra seems to know this: she says that he's Uncle Dan, and that it's not really a lie.
This movie does an extraordinary job of being a sequel to both the original book and film. The film is much better than the book, by the way. There is a lot of dialog in the last 10 minutes of this film that comes from the original The Shining book (and wasn't used in the Kubrick film).
And Kyliegh Curran (Abra) is an AMAZING actress. I'm surprised she hasn't had more work. She's good in Secrets of Sulphur Springs, but that's nothing deep, just a fun ride. If she can get the work, she'll win an Oscar some day.
One day I'd like to read the books and then revisit the films. I love that they included some unused dialogue for the ending of doctor strange!
In the novel, that sense of community Rose mentions is very well explored and explained. She is basically the story's co-protagonist, and even if not close to every single one of the vamps conforming the True, she shows kindness and love towards them. Its a juxtaposition to her child-killing endeavors.
An example being that, after a member of the True dies, they basically mourn for 7 days. There's no steam, no idle talking, and no sex during those days. And all they do is meditate. After that week passes, they each place a thing/trinket that reminds them of the person that died on a piece of linen, wrap it, and bury it. Because steam vamps leave no body behind.
They show all this humanity, yet they lack it while hunting and killing prey. After all, in their eyes, steam is food, aka the pain and fear from young shiners is food, without it they cease to exist. If a child needs to suffer, then that's just part of the process, similar to how many animals are killed in order for humans to eat.
That's their morality.
Rose The Hat is such a compelling character. Many fans, including me, have wanted a prequel explaining her origin and how she came to be The True Knot's leader.
Interesting that the bartender (who is representing Jack Torrence) is being played by Henry Thomas, Elliott from E.T.
I love this film - it wove together 3 different endings (book/movie/book) perfectly. I also think this movie is better than the book, especially with the death of The Knot. In the King universe Danny actually is Abra's (1/2) uncle. Abra's mom is the illegitimate daughter of one of Jacks students when he was teaching collage. King wrote Dr. Sleep because Danny was the only character that he had ever written that he wondered whatever happened to them.
I love that rationale for writing g the sequel. Makes a lot of sense and I’m thrilled he explored it and created doctor sleep.
The True Knot would make a great series expanding their backstory.
What I love about this movie and the Top Gun sequel is that they didn't churn out sequels one or two years after the originals. Both took decades and ended up creating movies that were just as good and, in some ways, better than the originals. The sequels are unique. While their stories have the foundation of the original movies they don't rely on them to continue.
29:50 - “Just let me eat my… Chex mix…. It’s fine.”
This took me out 😂
Aweaome movie! I always wondered how the true knot didnt know about danny. And snakebite andy is a pusher or mental domination like andy mcgee from firestarter. I wonder if the mcgee family is considered "steam" since theyre abilities either came from or were enhanced via the shops lot six program. What would they make of charlie mcgee who also has other powers besides pyrokenises. Or maybe theyd think they were just mutants since in the book its theorized their chromosomes/dna has been altered. Rwmber in the book unlike other shiners, when charlie uses her abilities it doesnt really hurt or drain her, quite the opposite really.
Great reaction as always!
Have you seen " promising young woman " ? Would love to hear your thoughts on this xx
Room 217 is the room in the book the shining. It’s not 237. Fun note- the actor playing Jack Torrance is none other than Henry Thomas. He is the little boy in E.T.
(Regarding your aftrthought) It hasn't been like this the whole time. I was taught not to talk to strangers. But, once when I was about 8 I was walking a long way home, and a taxi-driver was changing tire. I asked if he needed help. He said "Thanks, but I got this". 10 min later a taxi drove up beside me and he asked if I was the boy who offered help. I said "yes". he said jump in, I'll drive you to where you're going. It was just a 10 min walk left, but he appreciated the way I behaved. Nowadays that is supposed to be dangerous. (This was 1979, btw)
Another Fun Fact: The actor who played the baseball boy, Jacob Tremblay, performed so realistically that he scared all of the adult actors in the scene. Rebecca Ferguson was brought to tears by him.
Wow. He’s a great actor
I didn't know The Shining HAD a sequel 😮. Thank you Chris -and Red Dwarf- for introducing me to it.
Yes!!so glad you discovered this.
This Film is for my money (Having seen it in the theater in person back in 2019), one of the greatest sequels ever made. And that includes films like the Godfather Pt. II and the Empire Strikes Back , or Any other sequel for that matter.
Mostly because it simultaneously, saves the original intention of Steven Kings "The Shinning" Book, while also paying off, and expanding upon the greater intensity of Kubrick's Original Masterpiece as a film. I think the film plays it's cards strait down the middle of both adaptations SO well, It has to be a head candidate for both one the best sequels of all time, as well as one of My favorite movies released in the last 10 to 15 years period! which would place in running for one the best sequels of all time. Period.
This is a movie that pays homage to the original Book & Film so well, It somehow manages to HEAL a kind pf psychic rift between the Great Artists of King and Kubrick I might have never thought was possible.
Or at least that's How I see it....
Haven't seen the full video yet, but have to comment on what you said about it being about characters more than trying to be like a Kubrick movie. A Stephen King story is ALWAYS character driven. That is what he does best, and that is also why he continues to be successful no matter what genre he dips his toes into.
And the director of this movie (Mike Flanagan) is a huge King fan who take care of the characters. I'm afraid Kubrick either didn't understand Jack, Wendy and Danny, or he was too arrogant to care. And that is the main problem King had and still have, with Kubrick's version of The shining.
Such a fantastic film. I love this movie.
I really like this movie because to me it's a tribute to the original people from the Shining in 1980. I'm a Jack Nicholson fan so I really liked this movie so much.
While I'm not a fan of the Kubrick film, I think changing the ending of the Doctor Sleep book from what's left of the burned down Overlook to the interior of the still standing hotel was an improvement. I understand the director asked King's permission to change the setting of the ending since King famously did not like Kubrick's film. I remember seeing King joke that Warner Bros only gave him the rights to do a TV mini-series version of The Shining if he'd promise to stop bad-mouthing the Kubrick film.
Did you see that the doctor's office where Danny was offered the job looks like the office in the Overlook?
I didn’t, but one of my patrons (who was watching for the first time) did and we did a deep dive trying to figure out if there was a deeper meaning.
@@CasualNerdReactions It's more than just the look of the office. Dr. Dalton also mimics a few distinctive poses and gestures that Ullman did. Compare the pose with the head tilted to his right (screen's left) and with elbows on the desk, the right hand overlaps the left hand from the top, rather than the side. It's an unusual hand movement.
Both have a resemblance to JFK as well. With Ullman it's most notable in the hairstyle. The guy who played the doctor, Bruce Greenwood, his hair is shorter, but he portrayed JFK in the movie _Thirteen Days_ .
Kubrick and King were both old enough to remember the Kennedy years. (also worth mentioning, the inclusion of 'Elm Street' in Doctor. Sleep, although some people only see that as a nod to another horror movie, the title for 'Nightmare on Elm Street' does also refer to the fact that JFK was on Elm St in Dealey Plaza when he was assassinated. )
Given your reaction to these two movies, you would probably like the Mike Flannigan oeuvre - The Haunting of Hill House, Bly Manor, Midnight Mass. Episodic, not stand alone movies.
Worth a toe dip anyway.
Definitely want to check them out. Someday!
It’s basically a reactor-fan case of “You saw Movie X, now you have to see Movie Y!”, but it died a quick death at the theaters:
King had written a Shining sequel novel, but Warner was desperately going through their 80’s brandnames for a “new franchise,”, had caught on Shining being an.”80’s classic” after Ready Player One, and if King hadn’t written a sequel, THEY would have.
Thank God King did so they didn’t.
I feel like this little girl is a future villain.
No! I would watch that movie though….
Man it hurt when Billy died, almost turned the movie off.
That was definitely a difficult scene and brutal. I am sure some did turn it off at that point.
The cat is based on a real story. There should still be a RUclips video or 2 on the cat. Something to check out.
OMG...huge Stephen King reader here. And of course I read the Shining...and I actually wasn't that big of a fan of Doctor Sleep as a novel. I mean it was ok..but I actually enjoyed the movie a bit more TBH.
Also...dang, you're almost at 10K dude! Woohoo!
I enjoyed the movie a lot too. I’m likely going to check out the novels to both. And yes! I just hit it this morning! 🎉
loved ur synopsis. The fact that they preyed on children was just a bit too sickening to me so was good to watch with you and get the edits. Really interesting sequel and so well done. I have to admit I'm looking forward to the end of the horror movies; )
The end is nigh! 🥳
3:21 yay! let’s go! (gunne be soooo good0
Shining + Doctor Sleep need to be watched together. I saw the Shining first time and found it boring, believe it or not. I couldn’t complete it back then. Couple years ago I tried it again and got it. But just I saw the sequel Doctor Sleep I could appreciate the whole story eventually.
The acting in both movies is on another level. And I do like the characters Stephen King created.
great reaction
You have to watch "The Wendy Theory". Then you'll know why it's a difference between Delbert and Charles Grady. (It's here on youtube)
Fun fact Tony is future Dan and he can't contact him because...
SPOILERS
he dies at the end.
Didn't notice the office?
can i ask where you watched the director's cut from?
It was a little weird. I couldn't get it ourtright so I purchased the movie at Vudu.com and in the bonus features is the full director's cut.
I simply adore this movie, one of those rare sequels that don't retread the original. Stephen King is awesome. I just have so much trouble at the baseball kids death, it's a very very hard scene to watch, almost too graphic for me.
Agree all around. I think that scene is even longer in the cut I watched so, whew boy.
Fun fact: The man in the red hat is ACTUALLY DANNY LOYD WHO PLAYED DANNY TORRANCE IN THE ORIGINAL FILM!
Love that he was included.
No, it's the guy next to him, the one with the goatee who tells him about the pitcher's uncanny 'mind reading' abilities.
@jimbobeire No I looked it up it's red hat.
Lovely job
Lovely comment
It's best not to empathize with the bad guys in a Stephen King adaptation. His style is that everyone but the main characters are irredeemable jerks. No tragic backstory for villains, that's what makes for good villains.