For anyone complaining about low level output in headphones, remember the rode is line level output, no a headphones level output, is you plug a simple headphones amplifier (I tried the fiio A1 successfully) , you be good to go. And don't use high impedance headphones. I tried my Sennheiser with 64 ohms and its OK, the higher the impedance, the lower volume you'll have. This trick is a workaround, the rode wasn't meant to be used like a headphone output
Been looking for a solution for this for a LONG LONG time.. didnt really like the Bluetooth options... This has to be the tip of the year!!!... purchased last night @ BB, and works awesome !! Thanx....I see 4 thumbs down.. should be 0ZERO0....
You are the complete and absolute truth! I just got the rodecaster pro, wireless go 2 set, and had my 1st gen wireless go set laying around. After noticing the rodecaster pro DOES NOT take my AirPods or Bluetooth headphones, this is a huge fix for me. Thx fam!
I think Rode is a(dual) mono system. If it works for you it's a good and relatively cheap option, besides being really small. You can monitor the audio just to know it's working and there's no delay in the transmission. But I wouldn't rely on the system to have an accurate monitoring in terms of audio quality.The Deity Connect is a Stereo system and the receiver can handle headphones volume. But it costs three times as much at least and it's 5 time bigger. So back on cables..
awesome thinking... i watched this and was really hoping it could be a solution to singing/playing music with wireless headphones without latency. and yea ... 0 latency! its amazing, but the problem is that the levels have to be super low so they arent distorted but mean the headphones are very quiet without distortion
Me too. Problem: Help: Have 4 sets of Rode Wireless Go. All 2020 models. Problem: Setting up wireless headphone feed from Rodecaster Pro Headphone/ Mix 1... Levels look good sending and receiving on Wireless go. But both my Sony MDR 7506 and cheap $10 Dollar store headphones > audio headphone level is very low. I can hear the audio. I see the levels on receiver and they look good. Barely hear output. Suggestions?
Bro, is camera headphone a line level audio? Won't harm this transmitter while connecting to such a line level audio of a camera or not a distorted audio?
Howdy. I'm very curious about something, watching quite a few videos about wireless no latency headphones 1. Does no latency trick with Rode work with DJI as well? 2. How long do the batteries last on wireless connection? As far as I understand, the higher the impedance, the shorter the monitoring time. So I'm curious, what power can these systems provide, like could I run 250ohm Beyerdynamics (obviously it would be with some issues)? Or could you test how long is the wireless connection active using Sony studio monitoring headphones?
HELP with low output levels. Hey everyone... I'm getting really low levels through the headphone monitoring (with wireless go set up). In other words, if I connect my headphones (Audio-technica ATH-M30x) directly to my camera (a7iii) audio levels I hear in the headphone are fine - I head what the camera hears. BUT when connecting the headphones through the wireless go - levels drop significantly, as in I head almost nothing, i.e. I don't hear what the camera hears. Also, this is with the Wireless go's output levels set to max.
You guys are confusing signal levels. A typical headphones port in a typical camera will have headphones levels output for a certain impedance margins (typically not recommended to use high impedance headphones, try anything below 80ohms), Rode wireless go has line level output, so if you want headphones levels, you need to put a headphones amplifier. That's the only way. I tried it with a tiny fiio a1 and it works perfect. Check all levels and leave most of the gain to the headphone amplifier leaving all the rest below distortion limits
Great idea, Aaron. Would it work with TWO RodeGo mics? one set plugged into the camera as a wireless lav and the other into the monitor to connect to wireless headphones? I use the RodeGo now as my lav and love it. I HATE dragging my corded headphones around and plugging them into the monitor. It always gets hung up on the tripod, etc. I'm by myself so I'd like to pop the headphones on, check the sound, hang them on tripod and then start recording!
I connected a Sennheiser IE 100 PRO on the receiving end but I am only getting output on the right phone. When I plug it directly into the Rodecaster Duo, I am getting both channels. Any ideas?
for me the sound on the headphones sounds like i bought 3$-headphones, i tested the go wireless with 2 different pairs of headphones... with 2 different cables... am i doing anything wrong?
Hi, does anyone know if there a wireless bluetooth microphone that DOESN’T require a transmitter/receiver/dongle that attaches to the recording device, and can connect directly to the device’s bluetooth? It would ideally work similarly to how a wireless bluetooth headset would, just without the audio output, only audio input. The reason I ask, is because either the dongle or the device port where it’s inserted is prone to damage each time I insert/remove it.
On a shoot without an assistant I have used a Bluetooth transmitter hanging off my GH5, setup as a locked off B camera, to monitor the audio into my Bluetooth headphones. The delay is way too long but it does allow me to check that all sounds ok from my A camera position. At the moment I’m trying to find a good, low cost solution to replace my ageing wireless talkback pack that we use on a wireless live camera. It’s more complex as it needs to interface into a talkback pack and also needs to run all day and night, so battery life is quite important. I’m thinking of using a Sennheiser radio pack though to do the link.
Does the transmitter supply plugin power and can you turn it off? F4/F8 wont like it if you can't you'd want a dc block. Can't speak as to other recorders.
HOw do you listen to 2 people talk while recording at the same time? Can each of you plug in headphones in the MIC jack of the unit attached to you? Or is there some wireless funcion? Meaning is it possible to not only record your conversation...but can you communicated with each other when far apart?
so in order to wireless audio monitor from a lav mic you would need 2 sets of wireless go? one set from talent to mic in on camera or recorder....then another set from the headphone jack from the recorder ?
When Rode Go do not pairing: 1. Switch on the receiver. 2. Switch on the two microphones. 3, Press and hold the number two button "on the receiver" for three seconds until the Wifi icon starts flashing. 4. Then click button number two once and wait for the connection. 5. For the second microphone, repeat steps 3 and 4.
Wireless Latency 0 doesn't exist. Rode Wireless Go will have 4 or 5ms, of course, you won't notice it, but i would certainly adjust 4 or 5ms in post, always. If you really wanna measure it you need a splitter, one signal going to the rode receiver coming from the transmitter, and another cabled mic going to the camera at the same time, and taking the same test noise at the same distance (a couple of meters ), after that, in post you will be able to measure exactly (more or less, depending wireless conditions, the air, the obstacles, etc) the difference between both in ms.
tried this for recording music, and the audio quality is so degraded, that I can't judge the mix of my music, it sucks out all of the life from the sound :( it does work for no latency recording, but again I need to be able to hear if the instruments im recording is sounding good through my headphones while I record, and can't do it with these
Yeah I wouldn't use this if you need to judge the actual audio quality. This is more for quick monitoring of a livestream to make sure the right things are on air.
Btw great video. I love finding new uses for gear. I've been trying to find a low latency solution for recording music in a studio. It look like there are a lot of 2.4ghz wireless solutions, but good ones are at least $200. For that price I might get a system like this that includes a mic! But only if it's in stereo with less than 20ms of latency.
This is a great idea. I got here after viewing Caleb's video. My question: Rode claims a latency of 19 milliseconds on the Wireless Go system. How acceptable would that be if the Wireless Go would be used for a wireless hop to camera input?
I film stuff with the wireless go all the time and it's not noticeably delayed at all. I believe 19ms is below the threshold that's noticeable, according to gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/74975
Hi there, great post! I saw a comment here that states that the quality and fidelity of the audio monitored is not great. I am planning to use the Go's as in ear wireless monitoring along with a band mix since I am a singer. Do you think this would work at least decently for that use? Thank you so much!
just tested for the same usecase and the quality / volume doesn't work for live stage monitoring, it's a great idea tho - trying to find alternate solutions
That's a good question, I don't have an analog system to test with tho. I'm not sure if there's literally no delay or if it's imperceptible on its own, so I'm not really sure how it'd mix with an analog mic.
@@aaronpk i bought a röde go set...as a backupset ...it can be used next to analog wireless transmitter ...the go is an incredible low cost wireless microphone system.iam using it with a Sanken cos 11 mic ...iam impressed. i tested a more expensive system "sennheiser avx ..and its delay is to much using it next to analog!
I’m thinking of adapting my MDR7506 headphones. I would imagine that if I used them to monitor the built in stereo condenser mic on my Sony FS5, the sound will only come through one channel, left or right ear. Unless you could wire jack plug going into the transmitter to give you 2 channel mono?
Aaron Parecki thank you for your reply. I’ve decided to place an inline 3.5mm plug and socket (with screw locking collar). Where the cable emerges from one side of the headphone rather than placing the socket just inside the casing. I’ve done some research on Bluetooth wireless transmitter/receiver, and that seems to be the way to go, rather than the RODE wireless Go and it’s single mono channel (plus it’s blind spot when you turn away from the receiver and lose audio). Just need to find out which brand with apx will be the most suitable.
That's a great hack! thanks for sharing your experiment! Do you think this would work with any other wireless mic transmitter / receiver? Did you do the same test with some other brand?
Actually useless since you film in 24p each frame has a span of 41ms so as long as the signal is faster than 41ms you wouldn't be able to tell any latency from the footage. That doesn't change the fact that 40ms is garbage for live monitoring, for live use it needs to be below 10-15ms.
four year old tech and nothing new or raving now is been talking about anywhere. wow what a pity that tech is behind or just we are not getting the info about the great tech that some companies have created because of people sharing the knowledge.
I have experienced this as well, not worth it for music playback, vocal monitoring maybe. The output does not have enough power to drive decent headphones at higher volumes.
For anyone complaining about low level output in headphones, remember the rode is line level output, no a headphones level output, is you plug a simple headphones amplifier (I tried the fiio A1 successfully) , you be good to go. And don't use high impedance headphones. I tried my Sennheiser with 64 ohms and its OK, the higher the impedance, the lower volume you'll have. This trick is a workaround, the rode wasn't meant to be used like a headphone output
Been looking for a solution for this for a LONG LONG time.. didnt really like the Bluetooth options... This has to be the tip of the year!!!... purchased last night @ BB, and works awesome !! Thanx....I see 4 thumbs down.. should be 0ZERO0....
Awesome Discovery. BTW heard abt this from DSLR Video Shooter Caleb Pike
You are the complete and absolute truth! I just got the rodecaster pro, wireless go 2 set, and had my 1st gen wireless go set laying around. After noticing the rodecaster pro DOES NOT take my AirPods or Bluetooth headphones, this is a huge fix for me. Thx fam!
Just had this thought! Great demonstration! Thanks for placating my curiosity!
brilliant! thanks for taking the time to try this out. there are a ton of uses for this.
rode please make this for audiophile / gaming headphone
This information is a true classic timeless game changer. Thanks for sharing💯💪🏿
I think Rode is a(dual) mono system. If it works for you it's a good and relatively cheap option, besides being really small. You can monitor the audio just to know it's working and there's no delay in the transmission. But I wouldn't rely on the system to have an accurate monitoring in terms of audio quality.The Deity Connect is a Stereo system and the receiver can handle headphones volume. But it costs three times as much at least and it's 5 time bigger. So back on cables..
awesome thinking... i watched this and was really hoping it could be a solution to singing/playing music with wireless headphones without latency. and yea ... 0 latency! its amazing, but the problem is that the levels have to be super low so they arent distorted but mean the headphones are very quiet without distortion
Me too. Problem: Help: Have 4 sets of Rode Wireless Go. All 2020 models. Problem: Setting up wireless headphone feed from Rodecaster Pro Headphone/ Mix 1... Levels look good sending and receiving on Wireless go. But both my Sony MDR 7506 and cheap $10 Dollar store headphones > audio headphone level is very low. I can hear the audio. I see the levels on receiver and they look good. Barely hear output. Suggestions?
Absolutely great! Thanks a million for sharing! Have an happy new year!
Hi Aaron. I"m now *subscribed.* Found you from the _DSLR Video Shooter_ referral on his "no more wires" video. Congratulations on a great idea.
Awesome video and great ideas. Came by from DSLR video shooter!
Found a link to this from DSLR Video Shooter, and wow! Just what I was looking for. Order in already!
For a quick and dirty monitoring setup you've just saved me a few hundred dollars! Love your work as always!
Bro, is camera headphone a line level audio? Won't harm this transmitter while connecting to such a line level audio of a camera or not a distorted audio?
It works! Nice. And of course the microphone jack might be fed with a second Rode Wireless Go receiver...
Will test it today 😉 thank you!
Howdy. I'm very curious about something, watching quite a few videos about wireless no latency headphones
1. Does no latency trick with Rode work with DJI as well?
2. How long do the batteries last on wireless connection? As far as I understand, the higher the impedance, the shorter the monitoring time. So I'm curious, what power can these systems provide, like could I run 250ohm Beyerdynamics (obviously it would be with some issues)? Or could you test how long is the wireless connection active using Sony studio monitoring headphones?
HELP with low output levels. Hey everyone... I'm getting really low levels through the headphone monitoring (with wireless go set up). In other words, if I connect my headphones (Audio-technica ATH-M30x) directly to my camera (a7iii) audio levels I hear in the headphone are fine - I head what the camera hears. BUT when connecting the headphones through the wireless go - levels drop significantly, as in I head almost nothing, i.e. I don't hear what the camera hears. Also, this is with the Wireless go's output levels set to max.
You guys are confusing signal levels. A typical headphones port in a typical camera will have headphones levels output for a certain impedance margins (typically not recommended to use high impedance headphones, try anything below 80ohms), Rode wireless go has line level output, so if you want headphones levels, you need to put a headphones amplifier. That's the only way. I tried it with a tiny fiio a1 and it works perfect. Check all levels and leave most of the gain to the headphone amplifier leaving all the rest below distortion limits
Great tip, gonna try as in ear monitor diy! Thanks!
how is the sound quality when used in in-ear monitor?
Fab. Gonna try this to listen to the TV sound!
but you only get one channel through the GO.. or did you get stereo???????
Great idea, Aaron. Would it work with TWO RodeGo mics? one set plugged into the camera as a wireless lav and the other into the monitor to connect to wireless headphones? I use the RodeGo now as my lav and love it. I HATE dragging my corded headphones around and plugging them into the monitor. It always gets hung up on the tripod, etc. I'm by myself so I'd like to pop the headphones on, check the sound, hang them on tripod and then start recording!
I connected a Sennheiser IE 100 PRO on the receiving end but I am only getting output on the right phone. When I plug it directly into the Rodecaster Duo, I am getting both channels. Any ideas?
Nice problem solving, great vid, thanks for doing the sleuthing and sharing the discovery. :)
for me the sound on the headphones sounds like i bought 3$-headphones, i tested the go wireless with 2 different pairs of headphones... with 2 different cables... am i doing anything wrong?
Great idea. Another reason to get one of these little things
Hi, does anyone know if there a wireless bluetooth microphone that DOESN’T require a transmitter/receiver/dongle that attaches to the recording device, and can connect directly to the device’s bluetooth? It would ideally work similarly to how a wireless bluetooth headset would, just without the audio output, only audio input.
The reason I ask, is because either the dongle or the device port where it’s inserted is prone to damage each time I insert/remove it.
I want to use the mics regular for interviews but connect a transmitter to send the signal to my earbud Bluetooth
Aaron... The sound signal is stereo or mono ? I mean... if I want to listen stereo panned music... the rode solution will work ? Thanx.
Thanks, Aaron, nice video.
On a shoot without an assistant I have used a Bluetooth transmitter hanging off my GH5, setup as a locked off B camera, to monitor the audio into my Bluetooth headphones. The delay is way too long but it does allow me to check that all sounds ok from my A camera position. At the moment I’m trying to find a good, low cost solution to replace my ageing wireless talkback pack that we use on a wireless live camera. It’s more complex as it needs to interface into a talkback pack and also needs to run all day and night, so battery life is quite important. I’m thinking of using a Sennheiser radio pack though to do the link.
Thanks! I'm thinking of using it as an in ear monitor system on stage!
too quiet and quality too low :(
Gonna try this today
Wait.... what. Are you kidding. Oh that’s freaking amazing.
DUDe - Could I turn a gaming heaset wirelss and still use the built in mic?
Does the transmitter supply plugin power and can you turn it off? F4/F8 wont like it if you can't you'd want a dc block. Can't speak as to other recorders.
HOw do you listen to 2 people talk while recording at the same time? Can each of you plug in headphones in the MIC jack of the unit attached to you? Or is there some wireless funcion? Meaning is it possible to not only record your conversation...but can you communicated with each other when far apart?
so in order to wireless audio monitor from a lav mic you would need 2 sets of wireless go? one set from talent to mic in on camera or recorder....then another set from the headphone jack from the recorder ?
would this work with airpods or airpod pros for 0 latency monitoring?
question can i connect my wireless earbuds to record my voice in my DSLR w a transmitter to the DSLR ? acting like a wireless lab. mic? thank u
When Rode Go do not pairing: 1. Switch on the receiver. 2. Switch on the two microphones. 3, Press and hold the number two button "on the receiver" for three seconds until the Wifi icon starts flashing. 4. Then click button number two once and wait for the connection. 5. For the second microphone, repeat steps 3 and 4.
Is it stereo though?
Bananas and Bass it’s not stereo, you only hear one channel.
Any way to do this with Blue-tooth headphones. Say if you want to be mic'd up and just want a neat airpod in the ear?
Wireless Latency 0 doesn't exist. Rode Wireless Go will have 4 or 5ms, of course, you won't notice it, but i would certainly adjust 4 or 5ms in post, always. If you really wanna measure it you need a splitter, one signal going to the rode receiver coming from the transmitter, and another cabled mic going to the camera at the same time, and taking the same test noise at the same distance (a couple of meters ), after that, in post you will be able to measure exactly (more or less, depending wireless conditions, the air, the obstacles, etc) the difference between both in ms.
tried this for recording music, and the audio quality is so degraded, that I can't judge the mix of my music, it sucks out all of the life from the sound :(
it does work for no latency recording, but again I need to be able to hear if the instruments im recording is sounding good through my headphones while I record, and can't do it with these
Yeah I wouldn't use this if you need to judge the actual audio quality. This is more for quick monitoring of a livestream to make sure the right things are on air.
Sorry... forgot to mention THANKs Aaron!
I wonder if you could use the rode wireless go to send audio from a recorder to the camera?
Definitely
Does the Rode system transmit stereo? Or just summed mono?
Btw great video. I love finding new uses for gear. I've been trying to find a low latency solution for recording music in a studio. It look like there are a lot of 2.4ghz wireless solutions, but good ones are at least $200. For that price I might get a system like this that includes a mic! But only if it's in stereo with less than 20ms of latency.
Great idea! how loud is the output?
I'm not sure how to measure that but I would say it sounds "normal"!
Great video!
Nice video, only problem you only get one channel if you’re using a boom and radio mic.
This is a great idea. I got here after viewing Caleb's video.
My question: Rode claims a latency of 19 milliseconds on the Wireless Go system. How acceptable would that be if the Wireless Go would be used for a wireless hop to camera input?
I film stuff with the wireless go all the time and it's not noticeably delayed at all. I believe 19ms is below the threshold that's noticeable, according to gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/74975
5 milliseconds
Thanks a lot, Aaron and Christian. That is a great help! 👍
Hi there, great post! I saw a comment here that states that the quality and fidelity of the audio monitored is not great. I am planning to use the Go's as in ear wireless monitoring along with a band mix since I am a singer. Do you think this would work at least decently for that use? Thank you so much!
just tested for the same usecase and the quality / volume doesn't work for live stage monitoring, it's a great idea tho - trying to find alternate solutions
Perhaps with an additional mini headphone amp?
Hi Aaron...because there is no latency or almost nothing...can the go be used next to a analog wireless system ?
That's a good question, I don't have an analog system to test with tho. I'm not sure if there's literally no delay or if it's imperceptible on its own, so I'm not really sure how it'd mix with an analog mic.
@@aaronpk i bought a röde go set...as a backupset ...it can be used next to analog wireless transmitter ...the go is an incredible low cost wireless microphone system.iam using it with a Sanken cos 11 mic ...iam impressed. i tested a more expensive system "sennheiser avx ..and its delay is to much using it next to analog!
I’m thinking of adapting my MDR7506 headphones. I would imagine that if I used them to monitor the built in stereo condenser mic on my Sony FS5, the sound will only come through one channel, left or right ear. Unless you could wire jack plug going into the transmitter to give you 2 channel mono?
Pretty sure this will support only one channel
Aaron Parecki thank you for your reply. I’ve decided to place an inline 3.5mm plug and socket (with screw locking collar). Where the cable emerges from one side of the headphone rather than placing the socket just inside the casing.
I’ve done some research on Bluetooth wireless transmitter/receiver, and that seems to be the way to go, rather than the RODE wireless Go and it’s single mono channel (plus it’s blind spot when you turn away from the receiver and lose audio). Just need to find out which brand with apx will be the most suitable.
The key here is distance! How far you took those Rode devices away from which other?
That's a great hack! thanks for sharing your experiment! Do you think this would work with any other wireless mic transmitter / receiver? Did you do the same test with some other brand?
i like this, thank u 😋😋
Actually useless since you film in 24p each frame has a span of 41ms so as long as the signal is faster than 41ms you wouldn't be able to tell any latency from the footage. That doesn't change the fact that 40ms is garbage for live monitoring, for live use it needs to be below 10-15ms.
Why would you want to listen to the sound of the camera?? Its internal mic is shit.
Connect an external mic to the camera! Then the audio the camera provides out the headphone jack is good
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four year old tech and nothing new or raving now is been talking about anywhere. wow what a pity that tech is behind or just we are not getting the info about the great tech that some companies have created because of people sharing the knowledge.
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The audio sounded low coming through my headphones, am I the only person experiencing this?
I have experienced this as well, not worth it for music playback, vocal monitoring maybe. The output does not have enough power to drive decent headphones at higher volumes.
Nice video, only problem you only get one channel if you’re using a boom and radio mic.