I work at the largest dodge/jeep/ram/fiat dealer in the state of iowa. I work in the collision center and we had a big dealership meeting where the gm said they had 55 million dollars in new inventory and are paying 7% interest on them and how they need to sell them hahahaha. Then they sent salesman to go around to all the other employees to try and sell us new vehicles, i straight up told told the salesman if they took 30k off the trucks maybe I’d consider buying one. I remember before covid you could get into a brand new ram crew cab 4x4 for 40-50k now they are 70k+ just 3 years later no wonder they can’t sell shit
How many corroded body Wranglers are yall fixing/painting every month? Lol. They just need to drop the MSRP or give huge discounts. Take the "L" and write off the loss. Dealers got used to low inventory and high prices. Can't try and do the same when you're flooded with inventory. Something has to give.
@@MotorFeed omg don’t even get me started on the wranglers lol just my team does 4-5 wranglers per week, and we got 3 teams in the body shop haha. Sucks you have to take the whole thing apart they get a complete paint job, and only pays about 50 hours to do the job. I hate warranty work. We also do a lot of Pacificas cause the slider doors corrode and hoods corrode too
I know. But everyone has one. They use SNAP food benefits at the grocery and have had their student loans forgiven. So you are actually buying a truck it's just not in your driveway.
@@justinzippo7772 from interior Alaska, I agree. The heated steering wheel and seat would be nice for sure at -40°. But, being able to afford a nice rig without vs a limited with the accessories for 5-7k more… I’ll just dress for the weather. Just not something I am willing to spend my money on.
@@russelljones2468 Im gonna wait another year or two I almost bought a Silverado two years agow ent with a little crosstrek instead and been a great little car
no no no the problem is its not that the truck cost more it that your dollars are worth less... dollars value is relative to the productivity of the population and military strength. Look no further than Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Saudi Arabia/Yemen, Africa for colossal US losses (Via its proxies) on the field... as for production look no further that import exports, US largest export is Porn (services) and recyclable trash
@@Sticks1680 how so? The market demand for these vehicles is extremely weak, inventory levels are insanely high and interest rates make it impossible to even afford these crappy prices. A crash is coming.
@@BlueInOrangeAgaininterest rates will trigger the real crash like the last 5 cycles when people realize cutting rates doesn't drive any demand because everything is overprice. We never learn.
UAW thinks you are un-American for not wanting to subsidize their $180,000/year assembly line jobs. Ford, GM set the price of the trucks and Toyota, Nissan follow them.
Remember when you could buy a new truck for under $40k with a decent trim? Hell you could get used trucks with 40,000 miles for like $18k only 5-6 years ago.
In my searches, you still can if you're looking for a 2011-2014 2500 hd. The second you hit 2015, it's 30,000 and up. I mean they are way snazzier then the 11-14 but worth that much more? No fricken way.
I believe the manufacturers would have far less problems selling if they just offered basic trucks without all the frills and a price to reflect it. Sometimes, you just got to get back to basics.
Except my neighbor bought the ultra platinum turbo championship edition so I have to compete with him. Unfortunately most people want the high end whether they need it or not. That's why I can't find a two door anymore which is what I really want.
Eco diesel and the new 6 cyl both with super high dollar automatics add $20 K to the price after all the mandated nonsense and customer brainless needs.
@@fil1329 Amen. Your local mechanic can rebuild a 5 speed automatic transmission should it ever require it. These new 10 speed transmissions are a joke. The computer doesn't know when to shift them properly therefore they wear out faster, buyer beware!
@@broox419no your wrong I can rebuild a manual transmission myself of gind one that lasts forever And a transfer case that last too....like a gear on gear np205 with no chain Capeech
He see where he can say these things about market crash for vehicles he know is a lie, we keep clicking on his videos and he continue. There is no market crash for any vehicle for the last 3 years. Just give a thumbs down on his video and stop feeding into his clickbait.
That’s because he says this stuff for viewsI think. At my dealer (Ford) we can’t keep trucks on the lot. Sometimes we’ll have a base model or two that no one is wanting but typically they’re spoken for before they arrive, ESPECIALLY the high trims. Same for Broncos and high trimmed Mustangs. They’re gone immediately and usually sold before they hit the lot.
I still suffer from sticker shock. My first pickup truck was a seven year old GMC I bought from the GMC dealer used lot. It cost $550. This was paid for with a job at the time that paid twice the minimum wage so I bought the truck with six paychecks. I bought a car around the same time, a seven year old car for seven paychecks. You can understand why I have sticker shock. I miss those times.
@@donsmith2374 I bought my first car after working all summer a 40 hours per week job for $1.65 per hour. Car was a 1963 Nova for $325 from the Chevy dealer used lot. After I bought my car my two paper routes I had was enough to keep me going through the school year with expenses. Thanks for sharing I know the feeling.
Remember when the Maverick came out 3 years ago it MSRP started at 20k for base and capped out at 25K for the Lariat? Now a Maverick XLT is in the 31k range lol......
Exactly! Now the Maverick is actually priced in a spot that it's not worth buying anymore since it is priced next to real trucks while it remains a vanity truck.
@@mikkinikki1902if you think Covid surging prices where cars went up in price is the norm I have a beachfront property in New Mexico that might interest you.
I've put around $4000 into a loaded 2003 GMC 1500HD w/ 120,000 miles over the past 2 years. I wouldn't even had considered that just a few years ago. It's a no-brainer in today's truck market. Add a Bluetooth/Android Auto stereo w/ a backup cam for $300, replace some failing pieces inside and out, tune up the 6.0L and keep on going.
We’re in absolute crazy land regarding vehicle prices. No way this is sustainable. My family income is +200k per year and I wouldn’t even think about buying one of these things. People’s priorities are absolutely screwed up. Nothing is worth those stupid prices. The day of wreckoning is coming.
$10k...$100k...it still just hauls your azz from point A to point B. A crash is when you buy for 75 percent off bc that's about all those grocery getter trucks are worth.
Married with no kids and a combined income of $175K in an affordable state "NH" aside from electric and property taxes. I would never dream of paying 100K for a Bronco or Raptor or TRD or TRX or any of this bullshit. 70K for a jeep wrangler 4Xe lol
At this point i dont want any electronics in the truck. Bring back roll up windows and door locks. Keep the radio ans speakers. Only electronics i need is heat and lights. call it the f2cheap. Model bearbones
I do like some of the newer features like adaptive cruise control but I very much dislike A/C controls on a freaking Ipad. please for the love of god put that stuff back in physical knobs and buttons. oh and holy fk get rid of start/stop. nobody I know likes it
@@yellowsnowman9157go to any kids sport in the suburbs and youll see all ram 1500 and f150 crewcabs. Look how tiny the beds are now. Theyre dads minivan
It's absolutely true - no working man's truck has carpet or heated seats - just stuff Soccer moms and overpaid middle managers want @@yellowsnowman9157
I bought my Avalanche new in 2002 for less than $33K and it's still running today. It had it's issues up to 80K miles but since then it's just been mostly regular maintenance. It's dependable and my mechanic can get parts for it all day long. I can see upgrading to another used truck one day but damned if I'm going to spend $50K+ on a new truck unless I win the lottery.
Even with the reduced prices consumers aren't willing to buy them. They are still over priced. I've noticed in my area dealers are packed with vehicles and they aren't selling. I was looking into a new truck, but I think I will just keep my old one. Noting wrong with it.
@@Kevin-mk6jo kevin dealerships arent budging either in many cases. oem's shoveling high trim models down the dealerships throats to stuff down our throats. people aint buying.
Here's where your missing the point. It is NOT 20 % off. It is UP TO 20% OFF. That's a BIG difference. That means they could tell you it's only 5% off or even less. The key words are UP TO.
@@Kevin-mk6jo You either might own a car dealer or are you just simple plain ignorant.. just drive to a car dealer compare prices vs. 2-3 yrs ago… there are your Facts!!
For $20k I can drop a built turnkey LS with drivetrain in my OBS chevy and have a reliable sleeper that doesn't need emissions testing or a distractiontainment system. Plus, even being 25+ years old it's probably still more reliable than new trucks.
I remember when my stepdad bought a new 1977 Ford F250 and had a utility bed out on it and the truck was a total of about 6-7000 dollars. About 20 years ago I saw my first $50,000 truck and I laughed with disbelief.
Truck and car prices are not coming down ...they will increase 5 K every year for the foreseeable future . The government has inflated away the money supply to compensate for the budget and even if companies didn't need to they ALL inflated their prices for profit margin. . Inflation is now baked into teh market for everything , Food, Cars , Trucks, Everyday items...Its the New Normal
This is how I see it, now is the time for the consumer to dictate how much they are willing to pay for any vehicle. These manufacturers have huge teams that do market research to ser how much consumers are paying. They'll know how low they need to go in order for us to start buying cars again. If everyone would hold the line and not buy at these prices I can almost guarantee you that average prices for trucks would come down to $40k. That's why prices are coming down so slow, they want to see how much they can gouge us for and still make the most profit from us.
Exactly. The consumers have so much power but guess what? Theres people who are loaded that dont care AT ALL and will buy whatever they want. Making it hard for normal people
@lukemarks92 yeah, but let's say 1 out of 10 shoppers are loaded. If everyone banded together and not bought at this price, then all manufacturers would have to drop the prices
Those prices are insane to me. I bought a 2000 Ford Ranger XLT 10 years ago with 78,000 miles on it for $6.000. I paid it off in about 18 months, and I have been driving it with no monthly payment for about 8.5 years since it was paid off, and it still runs good with 168,000 miles on it. It has the 2.5 four cyl engine with the 5 speed. And it is good on gas, I get 20mpg in the city with it. I can not even imagine paying $75,000 for a truck, that is more than my Fathers house is worth. He has a 3 bedroom 1 floor 1 bath ranch style house, with a garage and it was valued at $65,000 last year. It is not a mansion, but it is a nice little house for a family with 2 kids. I can not even see myself going to a bank and asking for a $75,000 loan to buy a truck, that is just crazy to me. The cost of living here is pretty low, and you can get a nice small house for $60,000 to $80,000, so the thought of paying $75,000 for a truck is just madness to me. I personally would never pay more than $40,000 for a truck, at the most. I got 10 years out of my current truck and it only cost me $6,000.
My parents bought their first house in 1979 for 79k, it’s worth around 515k today, I’m not dropping 80k for a truck that will be worth scrap metal in 40 years!
Local Mercedes Dealership has only moved 2 vehicles as of the middle of February. Vehicles of all types are not selling. There is still a lot more of market correction to occur in my opinion.
the interest rate rise seems to have finally sank some common sence into buyers heads that their getting played by automakers like a deck of cheap marked cards.paying 90k for a pickup is a sure sign of a fool in action.
That’s awesome. I had an ‘03 white tundra with offroad bumper, matching camper and other upgrades and it was awesome. I sold it for $8000 a year ago to save for a down payment on a house. Great video by the way
Just got a 2022 Frontier SV with convenience and technology package for $25k with 30k miles. Market is crashing hard in my area. Glad I waited an extra 2 years and toughed it out with my car.
Last time I bought a new full size 4x4 truck was in 1996 and 1999. Both were extended cabs, but I don't remember even batting an eye at the price of them, pretty sure both were under $20k. I can't even afford these new trucks with the discounts, especially with today's interest rates. I bought a 3 bedroom house with a basement and garage for $49,900 in 1989.
The prices should still be around those areas. As a 28 year old that works his ass off, makes $40 an hour, and still can’t even fathom buying a house or putting myself into debt on a brand new truck, it’s ridiculous. All the things that used to be regular life milestones are now too expensive to even afford. All while wages have stayed the same. I feel bad for my kids because i can only imagine what it will be in another 20 years. Greed runs this world and it makes me sick.
I hope you still have those trucks! Those are REAL trucks and with a bit of work (new/upgraded motor, beefing up for capacity, etc) would compete with these new trucks (probably even beat them on reliability) for way less money. Mid 90s was the end of real trucks for real men.
I bought a 2002 GMC Denali with 4WD -and- 4 wheel steering with 6.2L engine and tow package with tach on dash new for $40K in late 2001. There were few options. It came fully loaded. It was considered an outrageous price for a pickup at the time. It's an adult now -- 21 years old and still going strong. No significant maintenance issues. It has picked up a few minor scrapes. I'm happy with it.
I was looking at replacing my 2015 F150 Lariat this past summer. I bought my Lariat brand new for 52K. Why in the hell does a new Lariat cost 72K? I just thought, these guys are out of their damn mind. I'll just go get a luxury vehicle if I'm forced to pay luxury prices.
Lol, I sold my 22 Silverado, bought a 2005 Ford Ranger, 4Cyl, 5 Spd. In addition I bought a new CT5 Cadillac, so I got a truck that meets my needs as well as a Luxury Car. I’m Completely out of the new Truck market. That 05 Ranger is bulletproof, the Cadillac is maybe too nice, but hey, I’m ahead of the game! 🤣
My 2000 Toyota Tundra V8 I purchased new and still excellent. I perform all maintenance and it will last me the rest of my life as I am in my early 60s. I was going to buy a nice truck for retirement years and can pay cash but screw it with the over the top prices now. Discounts need to be 30% to bring me back. The automotive industry and Federal Government is destroying the automotive industry.
The feds forcing that ridiculous auto stop-start "feature" on the automakers didn't help any. Raised the prices and made them vehicles a lot of us won't touch no matter the discount
Tundra TRD Pro MSRP Prices in 2017 were $46,010 …an increase of 1% over the previous year. Using this increase adjustment the new truck should only be $50k. The current truck MSRP is 72,130. That’s a 56% increase in MSRP over 7 years.
Pass. I'll put 10k into my 97 Chevy z71 and have twice the truck as a cheap made 2024 for a fraction of the cost. Not to mention the new trend of a tiny bed because the cab is insanely oversized. Creating a very wierd looking asthetic
I purchased a new 2023 Ram 2500 Power Wagon with the option 2 package, sunroof, blind spot detection etc., and the truck MSRP was a ridiculous $83265.00. I brought another dealer offer to my local dealership and they matched it. Reduced the price to 67,265 plus taxes. Even that was crazy for a 3/4 ton, but they also gave me $40,000 for a 2020 Chevy Trail Boss 1500 LT. that was in perfect shape. They have plenty of room to drop the prices....
I purchased a 2022 Power Wagon back in Dec of 2021 . MSRP was $70,800 for level 2 , but no sunroof. I looked at the 2024s not too long ago, and for the same truck they are now $84k. I LOVE mine though! It’s not a work truck, but can go just about anywhere. And, it has the smoothest ride you will find…
@@kcal6675good to hear. I’m planning on buying a 2500 this summer. I’ve had a 2009 1500 since new and have loved it and wondered if people felt the same about the 2500.
I feel like I’m watching a real estate video showcasing penthouse suites in NYC 😂 I can’t imagine paying $100k for a truck. Your used Yota is awesome. Great choice!
I went to a RAM dealership yesterday. Their were several 24 and 25 Limiteds with MSRP around $77k going for $58k to $60k. End of 2024 into 2025 should be a good time for buying.
every week for the last 2 years its been a market crash they cant sell the trucks..yet here we are trucks are 100k seems like they are still selling them
totally agree.. ive been seeing these "market crash" videos for the last few years. I get excited, go check prices, and nothing has changed. So im beginning to understand its just click bait.
I typically would buy a new truck, but the prices turned me off, and I paid cash for a used 2014. Thanks to new vehicle makers for changing my thinking, man, is it nice to have no car payment!
unfortunately every year they will be getting Lighter constructed, Forced to cut to make batter gas mileage , Emissions, Hybrids Insane amounts of electronics and computer control . The more complicated the machine the worse the breakdown and reliability . I bought a 2023 Tacoma just because of the last v-6 engine ( 2024's now all 2.5 Turbo 4 cylinder ) . This I think is the last of the best reliable Tacoma's and its probably my last new vehicle because I will be retiring in a few years time and I wont qualify to finance any more vehicles at these prices not working a job. Its my last hurrah buying a New vehicle . Its expensive but all I see is vehicles getting more and more expensive , and more and more complicated , they will not be coming back down in price .
@@stevenphillips3466 I just bought a 23 base Tacoma with the 2.7 engine and access cab. No heated seats or fancy crap to wear out in a few years. It sold for 28,500. Love it so far!
Great review! What is shocking about Ram is across the country you can find NEW 2022 Ram Trucks, roughly 12% of total inventory. On top of that an abundance of 2023's as well. From a business perspective this is asinine. Both the dealers and manufacturers need to discount deeply to find a pricing level to move this inventory.
If you ever worked on the Stellantis (Chrysler) trucks, you'd know why they can't sell the turds. Chrysler changed corporate names to avoid all the lawsuits against them. I love Mopar/Chrysler/Daimler --- 'cause they sent all my kids to college and bought me a lot of toys to keep me smiling all the way to the bank. You go, Stellantis --- keep up that quality contro!
Let those dealerships choke on the inventory especially the ones that were charging over MSRP the last 2 years!! I remember looking for a Tundra in January of 2022 before the iforce max motor was released and 90% of the dealership had markups from 8 to 15k
Thanks for another great video! These trucks - waaayyy toooo much! And prices are still going up, like everything else! Even with the high interest rates, and lack of available cash, one would think price increases would slow, but doesn’t look like it!
I was reading an article on the 2024 f150 and how the king ranch was priced 10K over the 23 model. It also was saying how all trim levels are going to be priced higher. Ford made the digital dash and 12” infotainment screen standard on all trims. So yeah, I don’t see much changing here. Prices will continue to increase. Instead of making changes to get prices to drop they went the other way to increase them. They are using the excuse that everybody is ordering their trucks with all the bells and whistles so they have decided to make them standard.
... and then having the dealership add some of the optional equipment (keyless entry pads, tow hitches/wiring... stuff that used to be done in the factory). Everything they can do to make the Union workers life easier at production... meanwhile, the union workers are crying and demanding more pay and less hours...
Smart investors do not spend money on a depreciating product like a vehicle that costs 60+ thousand dollars. I’m very blessed and I would NEVER spend 60 or 70 thousand on a vehicle even though I could. Why because it’s the worst investment you can make. Its good that people are getting smart and stopped the inflation insanity and price gouging.
Sad to see the direction Ram went. A couple years ago I started shopping around and decided I wasn't going to be an idiot. Driving my 2005 Ram 2500 for 19 years now. Riding on new KO2 tires, shocks, break calipers, break rotors and pads and full tune up.....I'm keeping it for a while longer! close to 20 years of turning back to look at it and thinking WOW that thing is a nice ride! It stands tall and looks way different than the Ram 1500 of it's time.
Yup and still a rolling pile of junk still to this day with Chrysler quality U just can't compare them to the Japanese quality Now 1993 and down with a 12 valve cummins manual transmission with and np205 transfer case.....well its a different story and animal 😅
I was in the market to replace my 2014 F150 but with the prices I found, I decided I’d keep my old truck and ended up buying me a new Honda Civic SI. I rethought how much I really need a truck in day to day activities and realized I only need my truck 20 percent of the time so buying a daily driver made much more sense. And spent half as much money
New truck prices are still insanely high. I felt ripped off when I bought a 2020 4WD used with 40K miles, but in excellent condition 18 months ago, but the same pickup new today is double the price that I paid for the used one. The dealers in my area are not offering any real significant discounts on most new trucks, but their lots are overflowing. The price crash is coming, but is not here yet--it will be. Many new car dealers today are surviving only because of their service department business. One dealer in my area laid off nearly all of their salespeople, but have hired 5 additional mechanics--people are repairing the vehicles that they own and the service department is always backed up 7-10 days on appointments, even with the extra mechanics that they have hired.
Buying a 24 Ram 3500 SRW Big Horn HO Cummins, sticker is $77,590 & got $14k off. This truck has the lowered msrp plus $14k discount. Fwiw another Ram I was considering had a revised window sticker $7K lower, I downloaded both.
The old tundra are classic. I have one that i put 10000 into. I like how it doesn't have all the bells and whistles that make repair costs exponentially higher like you see with the newer trucks. I don't need a god damn luxury vehicle. I don't need a stupid tv in the middle of the car I don't need a complicated turbo charged v6 that's difficult to repair I need a reliable workhorse truck that can get a trailer to the dump. I don't need the cyber truck or anything like it.
Here in Australia truck prices are insane for rams they are $100k plus and for jeep gladiator new are 85k. And a Ford raptor will cost you around 85k to 100k plus depending on the dealer. Atm looking at buying a isuzu dmax x terrain they are 55k/65k new, Just due to price range.
Here in Georgetown, TX, There's a Ford dealership loaded with 2023 F-150's and a lot are like XL and XLT "demo" models with 1000-1500 miles on them and they are barely discounted. Some are only like $2,000 discount, which is insanity. And remember, this is a 2023 model! These dealers are clinging on to the crazy over priced trucks and they are so greedy, it's maddening.
I was at Larry Miller Dodge the day they delivered the beautiful Rust & Blue TRX a week ago. The Black TRX has been there for several weeks. Good to see a new uplosd from you! I bought a loaded Ram Limited Night Edition with Hemi E-Torque in 2021. There was nothing in Boise or Nampa that mey my needs, so I had to drive to Lithia Dodge in Twin Falls to get the model, color & loaded options I wanted, only 60K out the door for a 80K Ram Limited.
F$$k! Little out of touch? My paycheck hasn’t gone up but everything else has. Only one I would be interested is that old truck! 😂 I’ll keep my 2016 Tundra ! Until the wheels fall off! 😮 ❤ the channel!
Post pandemic I've seen my wages triple, just from being laid off and being hired several times. And everyone I know has either lost their job and gotten rehired at bonkers salaries or, more depressingly, stayed unemployed. Even though I still have that scarcity mindset, an $80K vehicle doesn't seem all that expensive anymore. Still wouldn't buy one, though.
Tundra 2012 trd four wheel drive and v-8. I paid 32,000 for it. Still runs like new. No v-8 anymore . I ll keep my Tundra, come on toyota bring back the 5.7.
The problem is that for me to lease a new Dodge Ram 1500 Big Horn with the same package I least in February 2020 when I did the math the lease is actually double the price and spread out over a longer term with a downpayment which I didn't have the last time I got my truck. So basically for my same lease the price is about 120 % higher than it was 4 years ago so what does it matter if the price drops 10 or 15 or even 30%?
I love my 22 Ranger! Ordered in Feb of 22, picked it up Aug of 22. Ordered it in the sport package, super crew, race red, 302a high xlt package, tow package, FX4, and running board. Payed sticker 42k. Got extended warranty, ceramic coated, aftermarket spay in bedliner, and 3 yrs of oil changes. With a down-payment and 5.9% financing through Ford Credit, walked out of the dealership with right at 38k loan on the truck. I got some of the extras because i plan on keeping the truck for a while. It just turned 9600 miles last week and i have no regrets about buying it. It has been a great truck for me so far.
They are really out to lunch. I bought a 2500 6.7 cummins with 70.000 Kms on it , for 29000$ in 2014. The truck was a 2011, No def needed, and I still use it every day. I have over 600 thousand KM on it and I regularly maintain it. Why would I spend that kind of money on a new one thats going to be less reliable, and cost a fortune to repair.
I bought that same tundra in 2010 for $14k 80,000 miles. That truck should be $3500 now. Good truck if you can get past no power, 15 mpg , and a 4 speed that has to downshift over an overpass haha.
Yes I agree. Back in 1989 I got a tour of BMW factory in Munich Germany. During this tour German BMW engineer stated that all cars/trucks that has a turbo is a want a be vehicle. He said it was poor man’s wants be car/truck. It is cheaper way to make the vehicle to give more horsepower. When he said “poor man’s” he meant that car will keep a person poor having vehicle repaired.
Every auto RUclipsr claiming the market is crashing. I don’t see it at all. Sure, there are some slight discounts to be found. But even the used truck market is still raging. Prices have gone up on the used F150s in the last couple months. I’ve been looking for a used 2017 or later Lariat with under 60k miles for months. They are still well above $30k. I seen a couple drop into the high $20s around Christmas. But now back up again. MSRPs up against for 2024. My days of owning decent low mileage vehicles is over. Insurance premiums have tripled for us in Florida in the last five years as well. I’m going to find a beater and just do my own maintenance.
Prices aren’t going to come down without a recession as bad or worse than 2008, at least this is what I think. In everything since 2020 we keep hearing “prices will have to come down” yet they’re still selling vehicles, houses, etc. They just going to high prices and low volume vs lower prices and higher volume to stay in business. If people buy all these things and overextend themselves it may happen again though.
You can easily get 10k off the nissan platinum and pro4x. I'm in the market for a 2024 1500 truck and managed to get 13k off and a 1.9 apr through nissan. I'm going around to other dealerships to see if I can get good deals on other brands. But the nissan platinum is a good contender.
@anthonylabeau6159 if you can't find a 2023 model with 0% apr. Then wait a few months till June or July. Around that time they usually give 0% apr for the current models. That's when I more than likely buy one. And again minimum discount to shoot for is 10k off msrp
125,000 on a truck???? unless one is a building contractor ? iwould never put 125,00 on any vehcule it would go on a house. that keeps it values compared to motor or even electric vehicules.
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As long as we hold out and dont buy we will get lower prices. I am in the market for new truck but not rushing. Holding out till i see more because i belive this is just the start. Time for dealers and manufactures to know that they screwed us last few years ao now its our turn in returning the favor.
I remember being in college and wanting the 2013 Charger Daytona. It cost about 35k for a decked out muscle car with all the bells and whistles. I didn’t think just a mere decade later that would be the cost of a base model….
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Increase the price by 35%, than discount it 20% and call it a steal. Sales 101. 🤣
Stellantis raised prices 53% since 2019.
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The 2023 MY is the last of the Ram ecodiesel .
"then discount it".
I work at the largest dodge/jeep/ram/fiat dealer in the state of iowa. I work in the collision center and we had a big dealership meeting where the gm said they had 55 million dollars in new inventory and are paying 7% interest on them and how they need to sell them hahahaha. Then they sent salesman to go around to all the other employees to try and sell us new vehicles, i straight up told told the salesman if they took 30k off the trucks maybe I’d consider buying one. I remember before covid you could get into a brand new ram crew cab 4x4 for 40-50k now they are 70k+ just 3 years later no wonder they can’t sell shit
How many corroded body Wranglers are yall fixing/painting every month? Lol. They just need to drop the MSRP or give huge discounts. Take the "L" and write off the loss. Dealers got used to low inventory and high prices. Can't try and do the same when you're flooded with inventory. Something has to give.
@@MotorFeed omg don’t even get me started on the wranglers lol just my team does 4-5 wranglers per week, and we got 3 teams in the body shop haha. Sucks you have to take the whole thing apart they get a complete paint job, and only pays about 50 hours to do the job. I hate warranty work. We also do a lot of Pacificas cause the slider doors corrode and hoods corrode too
We replace the doors/ gates/ hinges and hoods on every wrangler lol
We replace the doors/ gates/ hinges and hoods on every wrangler lol
@@RepStLouiswhat's the prob?? Bad paint?
Still a total ripoff
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How do the average person afford these insane prices
@@jasongreen5470 they get in debt and then complain about it and blame others.... duh...
I can’t imagine spending 70k on a vehicle. I can’t be the only person that doesn’t want a heated steering wheel, bidet, and a 50” tv in my commuter.
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I know. But everyone has one. They use SNAP food benefits at the grocery and have had their student loans forgiven. So you are actually buying a truck it's just not in your driveway.
You'll need a bidet after spending your ass off for a new truck.
Idk where your from but the heated steering wheel might be nice in Minnesota fuck the screen
@@justinzippo7772 from interior Alaska, I agree. The heated steering wheel and seat would be nice for sure at -40°.
But, being able to afford a nice rig without vs a limited with the accessories for 5-7k more… I’ll just dress for the weather.
Just not something I am willing to spend my money on.
74K for a Toyota Tundra TRD Pro and still no recovery hooks...
And a V6
Crazy how the Sr5 cost as much as my TRD Pro back in 2019 🤦🏽♂️
thats only half the price of the ram trx
You gonna put a wittle wadder on your TRD pro?
Who comes up with these prices ?
Simply put, makes everyone run for the asylum...Lock me up... please!!!
Even with the 20% off it’s still a $60k truck which is insane. I’ll wait thanks
It's the same like black Friday 😂 mark up extra but the regular price is already marked up with the discount
Exactly I was gonna say this. Still fucking expensive as fuck.
Unfortunately we will be waiting a long time and it seems like the car industry is holding out for another bail out.
Ridiculous prices that will never come down.
WISDOM😅😅😅😅
The crumbs that they now refer to as discounts are nothing compared to the previous markups that are now the new MSRP.
They are waiting for the tax return season to end before offering any real discounts.
Ain’t even close to deep discounts. I’m ready to buy, but will continue to wait out the ridiculous prices.
@@russelljones2468 Im gonna wait another year or two I almost bought a Silverado two years agow ent with a little crosstrek instead and been a great little car
The markups are coming from the factory since stupid people paid a ton shit over for shit cars
@@russelljones2468 Same. I'll wait out this crazyness.
The problem with those trucks is that even with a 20% they still 50% OVERPRICED !! 😂
no no no the problem is its not that the truck cost more it that your dollars are worth less... dollars value is relative to the productivity of the population and military strength. Look no further than Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria, Saudi Arabia/Yemen, Africa for colossal US losses (Via its proxies) on the field... as for production look no further that import exports, US largest export is Porn (services) and recyclable trash
You dont economics well
@@Sticks1680 how so? The market demand for these vehicles is extremely weak, inventory levels are insanely high and interest rates make it impossible to even afford these crappy prices. A crash is coming.
@@BlueInOrangeAgaininterest rates will trigger the real crash like the last 5 cycles when people realize cutting rates doesn't drive any demand because everything is overprice. We never learn.
UAW thinks you are un-American for not wanting to subsidize their $180,000/year assembly line jobs. Ford, GM set the price of the trucks and Toyota, Nissan follow them.
Remember when you could buy a new truck for under $40k with a decent trim? Hell you could get used trucks with 40,000 miles for like $18k only 5-6 years ago.
In my searches, you still can if you're looking for a 2011-2014 2500 hd. The second you hit 2015, it's 30,000 and up. I mean they are way snazzier then the 11-14 but worth that much more? No fricken way.
And the trucks were just a few years old and not 10 , 15 years
50k for a base model F-150 is absurd. That stx should MAX be 32k brand new. I remember back in 2018 when you could pick up a brand new lariat for 36k
Totally crazy, entry f150 it's one million pesos in Mexico, you can buy a home with that
I believe the manufacturers would have far less problems selling if they just offered basic trucks without all the frills and a price to reflect it. Sometimes, you just got to get back to basics.
That is what I want
Except my neighbor bought the ultra platinum turbo championship edition so I have to compete with him. Unfortunately most people want the high end whether they need it or not. That's why I can't find a two door anymore which is what I really want.
Eco diesel and the new 6 cyl both with super high dollar automatics add $20 K to the price after all the mandated nonsense and customer brainless needs.
Exactly
Or better yet.. add the things/ comforts people want for a realistic price
Dealers keep their metal and I’ll keep my greens. It’s all fair games
Totally agree
I don't need any of that unreliable crap
I'll stick with used deals that I can work with and on
Probably Japanese stuff
@@fil1329 Amen. Your local mechanic can rebuild a 5 speed automatic transmission should it ever require it. These new 10 speed transmissions are a joke. The computer doesn't know when to shift them properly therefore they wear out faster, buyer beware!
@@broox419no your wrong
I can rebuild a manual transmission myself of gind one that lasts forever
And a transfer case that last too....like a gear on gear np205 with no chain
Capeech
You accidentally spelled plastic as metal
yea, you could put engine, trans, rear end everything 2 times over on a decent body vehicle and still Come in cheaper than a new vehicle 😂
Insane prices... The option I love the most on my current truck... "No Payments".
Same here.
100% you drive a 2002 Chevy.
@Antichamplol
You are not the car you drive. You are not the contents of your wallet. You are not the balance in your bank account
-Tyler Durden
Way too much money for a truck.
This channel comes across my feed with essentially the exact same video title every couple months. It’s been like a year - still 5 figure markups.
I was thinking the same thing!…
Haha I came to comment this
He see where he can say these things about market crash for vehicles he know is a lie, we keep clicking on his videos and he continue. There is no market crash for any vehicle for the last 3 years. Just give a thumbs down on his video and stop feeding into his clickbait.
That’s because he says this stuff for viewsI think. At my dealer (Ford) we can’t keep trucks on the lot. Sometimes we’ll have a base model or two that no one is wanting but typically they’re spoken for before they arrive, ESPECIALLY the high trims. Same for Broncos and high trimmed Mustangs. They’re gone immediately and usually sold before they hit the lot.
I still suffer from sticker shock. My first pickup truck was a seven year old GMC I bought from the GMC dealer used lot. It cost $550. This was paid for with a job at the time that paid twice the minimum wage so I bought the truck with six paychecks. I bought a car around the same time, a seven year old car for seven paychecks. You can understand why I have sticker shock. I miss those times.
@@donsmith2374 I bought my first car after working all summer a 40 hours per week job for $1.65 per hour. Car was a 1963 Nova for $325 from the Chevy dealer used lot. After I bought my car my two paper routes I had was enough to keep me going through the school year with expenses. Thanks for sharing I know the feeling.
My first truck was $1500 lasted me 200k and 400k total. Now I’m in the market for a new truck it’s insane to see these “marked down” prices
@@giovannimora9134Yes. Sticker shock for me too.
Back when cars lasted 8 years
@@VCBird6To who? No highlight.
Remember when the Maverick came out 3 years ago it MSRP started at 20k for base and capped out at 25K for the Lariat? Now a Maverick XLT is in the 31k range lol......
Exactly! Now the Maverick is actually priced in a spot that it's not worth buying anymore since it is priced next to real trucks while it remains a vanity truck.
XLT’s Into the 40’s here in Canada…
30 k for the maverick??? The thing has the wheelbase of a ford Fiesta with a hamster wheel for engine.
Lariats didn't cap out at 25k. That is a lie. Adding the Lux package and AWD/tow/FX4 easily pushed the price up.
@@michaelsnively3621the EcoBoost option has 250 horsepower...
Knock off at least 50% on the MSRP and I may head to a dealership for a new truck.
if you buy it for 50% off, it will still depreciate 20% in the next few months.
@@mikkinikki1902obviously but 75 to 60 k isn't a discount if those prices were marked up anyways
Probably going to see fire sales at Stellantis soon.
Will never happen unfortunately that’s just wishful thinking
@@mikkinikki1902if you think Covid surging prices where cars went up in price is the norm I have a beachfront property in New Mexico that might interest you.
I was thinking about buying the TRX, but I decided to buy a small mountain cabin instead. 🤪
Yeah no sh*t. New truck or a good portion of my retirement property? That's a tough one there
Yeah, for that price you can do a whole lot better and invest in an appreciating asset
a new car is not an investment unless its a classic
I've put around $4000 into a loaded 2003 GMC 1500HD w/ 120,000 miles over the past 2 years. I wouldn't even had considered that just a few years ago. It's a no-brainer in today's truck market. Add a Bluetooth/Android Auto stereo w/ a backup cam for $300, replace some failing pieces inside and out, tune up the 6.0L and keep on going.
Same. Just dropped almost $3.5k in parts to rebuild the front suspension and steering on my 2012 F350. I plan on driving it until it dies.
$125,000 for a Pickup Truck? I only paid $90,000 for my house & it has 3 Bedrooms, 2 bathrooms & a 2-Car Garage.
And it will appreciate in value, instead of going down faster than the Titanic.
We’re in absolute crazy land regarding vehicle prices. No way this is sustainable. My family income is +200k per year and I wouldn’t even think about buying one of these things. People’s priorities are absolutely screwed up. Nothing is worth those stupid prices. The day of wreckoning is coming.
Same here….im gonna keep my 2018 F150 (bought new factory order) till the wheels fall off
The day of "wreckoning"? I hope that was an intended play on words. If so, nicely done.
$10k...$100k...it still just hauls your azz from point A to point B. A crash is when you buy for 75 percent off bc that's about all those grocery getter trucks are worth.
Amen to that!
Married with no kids and a combined income of $175K in an affordable state "NH" aside from electric and property taxes.
I would never dream of paying 100K for a Bronco or Raptor or TRD or TRX or any of this bullshit. 70K for a jeep wrangler 4Xe lol
At this point i dont want any electronics in the truck. Bring back roll up windows and door locks. Keep the radio ans speakers. Only electronics i need is heat and lights. call it the f2cheap. Model bearbones
Only type I would buy. I hate all this electric crap. Screens for switches is nuts as well.
@@ridbanner1407 dirty hands, gloves or the sun made nobs and buttons the only way. I am with ya all the way
I do like some of the newer features like adaptive cruise control but I very much dislike A/C controls on a freaking Ipad. please for the love of god put that stuff back in physical knobs and buttons. oh and holy fk get rid of start/stop. nobody I know likes it
They come standard with all the crap and would charge thousands to make it simple.
Government mandated is a least part of the problem
Problem is these trucks are designed for office dads in a midlife crisis and not doing actual work.
That's not even true.
@@yellowsnowman9157go to any kids sport in the suburbs and youll see all ram 1500 and f150 crewcabs. Look how tiny the beds are now. Theyre dads minivan
It's absolutely true - no working man's truck has carpet or heated seats - just stuff
Soccer moms and overpaid middle managers want @@yellowsnowman9157
Very much agree and it doesn't help that nearly everything is priced for just the middle class even though they are only like 15% of the population.
@@MrKillswitch88 soon to be less than 15%
My truck from craigs list was 500 bucks. I did have to pay a little to get it to work, but I have had that thing like 10 years.
I bought my Avalanche new in 2002 for less than $33K and it's still running today. It had it's issues up to 80K miles but since then it's just been mostly regular maintenance. It's dependable and my mechanic can get parts for it all day long. I can see upgrading to another used truck one day but damned if I'm going to spend $50K+ on a new truck unless I win the lottery.
That 22 years ago and you still spent $33k for a truck (not a good deal), what point are you trying to make?
$33k in 2002 is like $80k now. Why are you bragging about that as if that was a deal??😂
Even with the reduced prices consumers aren't willing to buy them. They are still over priced. I've noticed in my area dealers are packed with vehicles and they aren't selling.
I was looking into a new truck, but I think I will just keep my old one. Noting wrong with it.
Facts
the factory keeps stuffing these trucks with high margin accessories and trim levels.
07 camry 147k sticking with it. the devil you know. I am avoiding this car market like the plague.
@@subaruamazon smart man
@@Kevin-mk6jo kevin dealerships arent budging either in many cases. oem's shoveling high trim models down the dealerships throats to stuff down our throats. people aint buying.
Hardly a crash, its a “market adjustment” starting to reverse the previous “market adjustments.”
aka crash you dummy
Here's where your missing the point. It is NOT 20 % off. It is UP TO 20% OFF. That's a BIG difference. That means they could tell you it's only 5% off or even less. The key words are UP TO.
Facts. Words mean things.
If you've been listening to the government lately about the economy words don't mean much.
@rickcoleman8903 if you been listening to bidenomics... you have issues!
@@rickcoleman8903 I didn't know we had a Govt.
@@Kevin-mk6jo
You either might own a car dealer or are you just simple plain ignorant.. just drive to a car dealer compare prices vs. 2-3 yrs ago… there are your Facts!!
For $20k I can drop a built turnkey LS with drivetrain in my OBS chevy and have a reliable sleeper that doesn't need emissions testing or a distractiontainment system. Plus, even being 25+ years old it's probably still more reliable than new trucks.
I remember when my stepdad bought a new 1977 Ford F250 and had a utility bed out on it and the truck was a total of about 6-7000 dollars. About 20 years ago I saw my first $50,000 truck and I laughed with disbelief.
Prices need to come down another 50% before anyone can afford to buy them...
Try like 80 percent then we're talking
Truck and car prices are not coming down ...they will increase 5 K every year for the foreseeable future . The government has inflated away the money supply to compensate for the budget and even if companies didn't need to they ALL inflated their prices for profit margin. . Inflation is now baked into teh market for everything , Food, Cars , Trucks, Everyday items...Its the New Normal
@@stevenphillips3466looks like the dealerships will be sitting on those vehicles for quite awhile.
90%+ off should be the minimum
This is how I see it, now is the time for the consumer to dictate how much they are willing to pay for any vehicle. These manufacturers have huge teams that do market research to ser how much consumers are paying. They'll know how low they need to go in order for us to start buying cars again. If everyone would hold the line and not buy at these prices I can almost guarantee you that average prices for trucks would come down to $40k. That's why prices are coming down so slow, they want to see how much they can gouge us for and still make the most profit from us.
Exactly. The consumers have so much power but guess what? Theres people who are loaded that dont care AT ALL and will buy whatever they want. Making it hard for normal people
@lukemarks92 yeah, but let's say 1 out of 10 shoppers are loaded. If everyone banded together and not bought at this price, then all manufacturers would have to drop the prices
@@rogersoccer19 i totally agree just wish it could really happen! Would be crazy to see
Those prices are insane to me. I bought a 2000 Ford Ranger XLT 10 years ago with 78,000 miles on it for $6.000. I paid it off in about 18 months, and I have been driving it with no monthly payment for about 8.5 years since it was paid off, and it still runs good with 168,000 miles on it. It has the 2.5 four cyl engine with the 5 speed. And it is good on gas, I get 20mpg in the city with it.
I can not even imagine paying $75,000 for a truck, that is more than my Fathers house is worth. He has a 3 bedroom 1 floor 1 bath ranch style house, with a garage and it was valued at $65,000 last year. It is not a mansion, but it is a nice little house for a family with 2 kids.
I can not even see myself going to a bank and asking for a $75,000 loan to buy a truck, that is just crazy to me. The cost of living here is pretty low, and you can get a nice small house for $60,000 to $80,000, so the thought of paying $75,000 for a truck is just madness to me.
I personally would never pay more than $40,000 for a truck, at the most. I got 10 years out of my current truck and it only cost me $6,000.
What state do u live in!?
My parents bought their first house in 1979 for 79k, it’s worth around 515k today, I’m not dropping 80k for a truck that will be worth scrap metal in 40 years!
@@Mustangg16 My Father bought a newer house 2 years ago, not 40 years ago.
The average salary in the USA is $58,000 so are they that insane?
I bought a double cheeseburger at McDonald’s for $1, 10 years ago. With todays prices I refuse to buy food anymore, not worth it
For a truck made in Mexico, where labor is significantly cheaper, Ram is asking WAAAAAAAY too much for their trucks!
I remember buying my Tacoma TRD off-road for around $32,000 and thinking about hay was an insane price.
$68k for a Lightning that tanks in cold weather. No thanks.
Agreed
And hot weather
68k?? In ontario your 112k. A simple Custom Trailboss is 75k
@@philbrown8056yes I've seen a lightning in Edmonton with a $130k on the window.
EV's are pure junk. Only a liberal would buy one.
Local Mercedes Dealership has only moved 2 vehicles as of the middle of February. Vehicles of all types are not selling. There is still a lot more of market correction to occur in my opinion.
Amen
the interest rate rise seems to have finally sank some common sence into buyers heads that their getting played by automakers like a deck of cheap marked cards.paying 90k for a pickup is a sure sign of a fool in action.
That’s awesome. I had an ‘03 white tundra with offroad bumper, matching camper and other upgrades and it was awesome. I sold it for $8000 a year ago to save for a down payment on a house.
Great video by the way
Just got a 2022 Frontier SV with convenience and technology package for $25k with 30k miles. Market is crashing hard in my area. Glad I waited an extra 2 years and toughed it out with my car.
Last time I bought a new full size 4x4 truck was in 1996 and 1999. Both were extended cabs, but I don't remember even batting an eye at the price of them, pretty sure both were under $20k. I can't even afford these new trucks with the discounts, especially with today's interest rates. I bought a 3 bedroom house with a basement and garage for $49,900 in 1989.
The prices should still be around those areas. As a 28 year old that works his ass off, makes $40 an hour, and still can’t even fathom buying a house or putting myself into debt on a brand new truck, it’s ridiculous. All the things that used to be regular life milestones are now too expensive to even afford. All while wages have stayed the same. I feel bad for my kids because i can only imagine what it will be in another 20 years. Greed runs this world and it makes me sick.
I hope you still have those trucks! Those are REAL trucks and with a bit of work (new/upgraded motor, beefing up for capacity, etc) would compete with these new trucks (probably even beat them on reliability) for way less money. Mid 90s was the end of real trucks for real men.
I bought a 2002 GMC Denali with 4WD -and- 4 wheel steering with 6.2L engine and tow package with tach on dash new for $40K in late 2001. There were few options. It came fully loaded. It was considered an outrageous price for a pickup at the time. It's an adult now -- 21 years old and still going strong. No significant maintenance issues. It has picked up a few minor scrapes. I'm happy with it.
I was looking at replacing my 2015 F150 Lariat this past summer. I bought my Lariat brand new for 52K. Why in the hell does a new Lariat cost 72K? I just thought, these guys are out of their damn mind. I'll just go get a luxury vehicle if I'm forced to pay luxury prices.
Only one reason. Aluminum body. Oh and also greed.
Lol, I sold my 22 Silverado, bought a 2005 Ford Ranger, 4Cyl, 5 Spd. In addition I bought a new CT5 Cadillac, so I got a truck that meets my needs as well as a Luxury Car. I’m Completely out of the new Truck market. That 05 Ranger is bulletproof, the Cadillac is maybe too nice, but hey, I’m ahead of the game! 🤣
Hell dude even 52k was too much in 2015 for a new truck
Why would you replace that truck its bot even ten years old and has an aluminum body keep it
@@theballintruth3369 yeah the truck is very sound and I haven’t had any issues with it. It doesn’t have 155K miles on it though.
My 2000 Toyota Tundra V8 I purchased new and still excellent. I perform all maintenance and it will last me the rest of my life as I am in my early 60s. I was going to buy a nice truck for retirement years and can pay cash but screw it with the over the top prices now. Discounts need to be 30% to bring me back. The automotive industry and Federal Government is destroying the automotive industry.
You are smart! Want luxury, then go by a Lexus for 30k.
My grandfather bought his in 93. Ive fixed a few rust issues. But that thing will out live me
The feds forcing that ridiculous auto stop-start "feature" on the automakers didn't help any. Raised the prices and made them vehicles a lot of us won't touch no matter the discount
Iv got a 2001 tundra with the 4.7 as well and it's been such a great truck
A friend of mine works at a Toyota dealership, he told me that Toyota doesn't allow them to advertise discounts.
These prices are out of control. Some of those top end prices are close to how much I bought my first home for.
Tundra TRD Pro MSRP Prices in 2017 were $46,010 …an increase of 1% over the previous year. Using this increase adjustment the new truck should only be $50k. The current truck MSRP is 72,130. That’s a 56% increase in MSRP over 7 years.
I think it's because TRD Pro is now a hybrid. Tacoma hybrid is 60k and you cant find one to buy.
I bought my Ram 1500 Bighorn in 2017 for $37,000 with rebates. The price for me to get one now is pretty much double. Insane.
And don't forget, you were a sucker if you paid MSRP
@@Bohemond_Rises Especially in 2017…no one did. And now you’re considered lucky if a dealer sells you a car at MSRP.
@@webeechamin1167 Wage increases certainly don’t match new car price increases.
Much Truth Here, Big 3 Dealers In My Area Are Loaded With Inventory! Let Em' Choke On Them! Enjoyed Your Report Thanks!
Bet they wish the Union would go back on strike so they don't have to shut down production on their own accord this year....
Pass. I'll put 10k into my 97 Chevy z71 and have twice the truck as a cheap made 2024 for a fraction of the cost. Not to mention the new trend of a tiny bed because the cab is insanely oversized. Creating a very wierd looking asthetic
I purchased a new 2023 Ram 2500 Power Wagon with the option 2 package, sunroof, blind spot detection etc., and the truck MSRP was a ridiculous $83265.00. I brought another dealer offer to my local dealership and they matched it. Reduced the price to 67,265 plus taxes. Even that was crazy for a 3/4 ton, but they also gave me $40,000 for a 2020 Chevy Trail Boss 1500 LT. that was in perfect shape. They have plenty of room to drop the prices....
I purchased a 2022 Power Wagon back in Dec of 2021 . MSRP was $70,800 for level 2 , but no sunroof. I looked at the 2024s not too long ago, and for the same truck they are now $84k.
I LOVE mine though! It’s not a work truck, but can go just about anywhere. And, it has the smoothest ride you will find…
@@kcal6675good to hear. I’m planning on buying a 2500 this summer. I’ve had a 2009 1500 since new and have loved it and wondered if people felt the same about the 2500.
I feel like I’m watching a real estate video showcasing penthouse suites in NYC 😂
I can’t imagine paying $100k for a truck.
Your used Yota is awesome. Great choice!
At this point you'll need to put a bed in the back of the truck and just live there. haha.
I paid only $80k for my 16 acre farm with house, barn, machine shed and three garages.
up to 20% means they'll discount the scotch guard on the carpet you didn't want by 20% and give you 2% off the truck.
"I can knock $100 off that true coat"
@@kanjoracer4914 thanks, I was trying to remember the name of it!! that's exactly what I was thinking.....
$600 for mud flaps that you don’t need because most people don’t leave the paved roads.
I've owned 3 rams and currently do, but if they don't get off of their high horse, I won't own another.
Well right now Ram is cheaper than any other dealers.
Not currently in the pnw. Used trucks are getting reasonable, but new is still pretty wild.
I got rid of my 2007 Ram for a 2018 Silverado a few years back and everyday I miss my old Ram 😭
75-90k for a half ton truck is completely overpriced. Just like all other markets since 2021.
I went to a RAM dealership yesterday. Their were several 24 and 25 Limiteds with MSRP around $77k going for $58k to $60k. End of 2024 into 2025 should be a good time for buying.
every week for the last 2 years its been a market crash they cant sell the trucks..yet here we are trucks are 100k seems like they are still selling them
totally agree.. ive been seeing these "market crash" videos for the last few years. I get excited, go check prices, and nothing has changed. So im beginning to understand its just click bait.
@@jshdorsey1974 I just laugh at them and have more coffee.
I typically would buy a new truck, but the prices turned me off, and I paid cash for a used 2014. Thanks to new vehicle makers for changing my thinking, man, is it nice to have no car payment!
unfortunately every year they will be getting Lighter constructed, Forced to cut to make batter gas mileage , Emissions, Hybrids Insane amounts of electronics and computer control . The more complicated the machine the worse the breakdown and reliability . I bought a 2023 Tacoma just because of the last v-6 engine ( 2024's now all 2.5 Turbo 4 cylinder ) . This I think is the last of the best reliable Tacoma's and its probably my last new vehicle because I will be retiring in a few years time and I wont qualify to finance any more vehicles at these prices not working a job. Its my last hurrah buying a New vehicle . Its expensive but all I see is vehicles getting more and more expensive , and more and more complicated , they will not be coming back down in price .
What kind of truck did you get?
@@stevenphillips3466 I just bought a 23 base Tacoma with the 2.7 engine and access cab. No heated seats or fancy crap to wear out in a few years. It sold for 28,500. Love it so far!
@braydonwebb3432 2014 Ford Raptor, paid 11,500.00 in Canada
Not having a payment is way more satisfying than driving a 80k truck. Those people I just laugh at because they are cash poor and dumb
its sad cause the maverick was supposed to be a 20k starting price and i doubt anyone found one for that price.
That was a total SCAM by Ford. Finally saw one on a dealers lot Just a couple of weeks ago for $37K. Keep it!
Mavericks are assembled in Mexico - endless quality issues.
I saw a used 2022 Maverick for $45,000 the other day on marketplace.
Yep, they were to have a starting price for a XL of $19,995 and Lariat base $28,355!
My friend got one for that price. He ordered directly from Ford and had to wait slightly over a year
All the sudden the $5000 in body work my rusty 2000 Silverado could use seems really cheap.
Just bought a Tunrda 5k off TRP. It’s an amazing truck. 24 Platinum. Coming from a 21 F150 Hybrid.
I don't consider. 2000.00 off a discount. They went up 300% during covid.
Great review! What is shocking about Ram is across the country you can find NEW 2022 Ram Trucks, roughly 12% of total inventory. On top of that an abundance of 2023's as well. From a business perspective this is asinine. Both the dealers and manufacturers need to discount deeply to find a pricing level to move this inventory.
If you ever worked on the Stellantis (Chrysler) trucks, you'd know why they can't sell the turds. Chrysler changed corporate names to avoid all the lawsuits against them. I love Mopar/Chrysler/Daimler --- 'cause they sent all my kids to college and bought me a lot of toys to keep me smiling all the way to the bank.
You go, Stellantis --- keep up that quality contro!
@@SurferJoe46 AWESOME reply!
Let those dealerships choke on the inventory especially the ones that were charging over MSRP the last 2 years!! I remember looking for a Tundra in January of 2022 before the iforce max motor was released and 90% of the dealership had markups from 8 to 15k
Prices are still ridiculous!!!
Theyre still way too high. Its unreal
MSRP prices are still way over inflated. In 2017 I bought a brand new Silverado LTZ crew cab for 55k out the door. Same truck now is 70k msrp.
Thanks for another great video! These trucks - waaayyy toooo much! And prices are still going up, like everything else! Even with the high interest rates, and lack of available cash, one would think price increases would slow, but doesn’t look like it!
I was reading an article on the 2024 f150 and how the king ranch was priced 10K over the 23 model. It also was saying how all trim levels are going to be priced higher. Ford made the digital dash and 12” infotainment screen standard on all trims. So yeah, I don’t see much changing here. Prices will continue to increase. Instead of making changes to get prices to drop they went the other way to increase them. They are using the excuse that everybody is ordering their trucks with all the bells and whistles so they have decided to make them standard.
... and then having the dealership add some of the optional equipment (keyless entry pads, tow hitches/wiring... stuff that used to be done in the factory). Everything they can do to make the Union workers life easier at production... meanwhile, the union workers are crying and demanding more pay and less hours...
Did i see a bronco for almost 100k?? That is beyond crazy!
Smart investors do not spend money on a depreciating product like a vehicle that costs 60+ thousand dollars. I’m very blessed and I would NEVER spend 60 or 70 thousand on a vehicle even though I could. Why because it’s the worst investment you can make. Its good that people are getting smart and stopped the inflation insanity and price gouging.
Sad to see the direction Ram went. A couple years ago I started shopping around and decided I wasn't going to be an idiot. Driving my 2005 Ram 2500 for 19 years now. Riding on new KO2 tires, shocks, break calipers, break rotors and pads and full tune up.....I'm keeping it for a while longer! close to 20 years of turning back to look at it and thinking WOW that thing is a nice ride! It stands tall and looks way different than the Ram 1500 of it's time.
Yup and still a rolling pile of junk still to this day with Chrysler quality
U just can't compare them to the Japanese quality
Now 1993 and down with a 12 valve cummins manual transmission with and np205 transfer case.....well its a different story and animal 😅
I was in the market to replace my 2014 F150 but with the prices I found, I decided I’d keep my old truck and ended up buying me a new Honda Civic SI. I rethought how much I really need a truck in day to day activities and realized I only need my truck 20 percent of the time so buying a daily driver made much more sense. And spent half as much money
Prius FTW
Great idea
Can't go wrong with most Japanese cars
Plus if it manual u can tow a trailer with it
I do it all the time with my cars
@@linh811if u live in the city.....not such a bad idea with regenerative braking
Plus they were the most reliable hybrid car
New truck prices are still insanely high. I felt ripped off when I bought a 2020 4WD used with 40K miles, but in excellent condition 18 months ago, but the same pickup new today is double the price that I paid for the used one. The dealers in my area are not offering any real significant discounts on most new trucks, but their lots are overflowing. The price crash is coming, but is not here yet--it will be. Many new car dealers today are surviving only because of their service department business. One dealer in my area laid off nearly all of their salespeople, but have hired 5 additional mechanics--people are repairing the vehicles that they own and the service department is always backed up 7-10 days on appointments, even with the extra mechanics that they have hired.
Only 7-10 days? Not bad! It’s 3-4 WEEKS for pretty much anything more than oil change at any shop where I live!
Buying a 24 Ram 3500 SRW Big Horn HO Cummins, sticker is $77,590 & got $14k off.
This truck has the lowered msrp plus $14k discount.
Fwiw another Ram I was considering had a revised window sticker $7K lower, I downloaded both.
The old tundra are classic. I have one that i put 10000 into. I like how it doesn't have all the bells and whistles that make repair costs exponentially higher like you see with the newer trucks.
I don't need a god damn luxury vehicle.
I don't need a stupid tv in the middle of the car
I don't need a complicated turbo charged v6 that's difficult to repair
I need a reliable workhorse truck that can get a trailer to the dump. I don't need the cyber truck or anything like it.
Here in Australia truck prices are insane for rams they are $100k plus and for jeep gladiator new are 85k. And a Ford raptor will cost you around 85k to 100k plus depending on the dealer. Atm looking at buying a isuzu dmax x terrain they are 55k/65k new, Just due to price range.
2017 I got a brand new XLT super crew out the door at 36k that’s same truck now is 60k it’s insane
Oh my god! You had a GT350? Man, that car had the best sounding engine with that flat plane crank! Wish I had one sooooo bad!
I miss that car!
Here in Georgetown, TX, There's a Ford dealership loaded with 2023 F-150's and a lot are like XL and XLT "demo" models with 1000-1500 miles on them and they are barely discounted. Some are only like $2,000 discount, which is insanity. And remember, this is a 2023 model! These dealers are clinging on to the crazy over priced trucks and they are so greedy, it's maddening.
Don’t buy new trucks or new cars right now not a good time to buy my friends. Interest rate is too high can’t afford it.
I was at Larry Miller Dodge the day they delivered the beautiful Rust & Blue TRX a week ago. The Black TRX has been there for several weeks. Good to see a new uplosd from you!
I bought a loaded Ram Limited Night Edition with Hemi E-Torque in 2021. There was nothing in Boise or Nampa that mey my needs, so I had to drive to Lithia Dodge in Twin Falls to get the model, color & loaded options I wanted, only 60K out the door for a 80K Ram Limited.
At $125k, they'll be there a while longer for sure. They did sell a flat blue one a week or so ago.
F$$k! Little out of touch? My paycheck hasn’t gone up but everything else has. Only one I would be interested is that old truck! 😂 I’ll keep my 2016 Tundra ! Until the wheels fall off! 😮 ❤ the channel!
Amen brother. Wages haven’t gone up. Shit is insane how people put aside a thousand buck for a truck payment 😂
Trump 2024 🎉
Post pandemic I've seen my wages triple, just from being laid off and being hired several times. And everyone I know has either lost their job and gotten rehired at bonkers salaries or, more depressingly, stayed unemployed. Even though I still have that scarcity mindset, an $80K vehicle doesn't seem all that expensive anymore. Still wouldn't buy one, though.
So, you'll replace that '16 Tundra in 15 or so years! Worth holding on to! 😅
Tundra 2012 trd four wheel drive and v-8. I paid 32,000 for it. Still runs like new. No v-8 anymore . I ll keep my Tundra, come on toyota bring back the 5.7.
Last truck was 2017 GMC Canyon 4x4 paid $38K. Got A 2023 same truck for $42K.
Sounds about right.
The problem is that for me to lease a new Dodge Ram 1500 Big Horn with the same package I least in February 2020 when I did the math the lease is actually double the price and spread out over a longer term with a downpayment which I didn't have the last time I got my truck. So basically for my same lease the price is about 120 % higher than it was 4 years ago so what does it matter if the price drops 10 or 15 or even 30%?
I love my 22 Ranger! Ordered in Feb of 22, picked it up Aug of 22. Ordered it in the sport package, super crew, race red, 302a high xlt package, tow package, FX4, and running board. Payed sticker 42k. Got extended warranty, ceramic coated, aftermarket spay in bedliner, and 3 yrs of oil changes. With a down-payment and 5.9% financing through Ford Credit, walked out of the dealership with right at 38k loan on the truck. I got some of the extras because i plan on keeping the truck for a while. It just turned 9600 miles last week and i have no regrets about buying it. It has been a great truck for me so far.
Your payment will outlast the truck
Let them eat cake!
Amen
Vote with our money
Don't buy that over priced crap
At these prices they should all come with an acre of land and a functioning kitchen and bathroom.
They are really out to lunch. I bought a 2500 6.7 cummins with 70.000 Kms on it , for 29000$ in 2014. The truck was a 2011, No def needed, and I still use it every day. I have over 600 thousand KM on it and I regularly maintain it. Why would I spend that kind of money on a new one thats going to be less reliable, and cost a fortune to repair.
Just got new tires and wipers
See ya , bojangles LOL
I bought that same tundra in 2010 for $14k 80,000 miles.
That truck should be $3500 now. Good truck if you can get past no power, 15 mpg , and a 4 speed that has to downshift over an overpass haha.
Yes I agree. Back in 1989 I got a tour of BMW factory in Munich Germany. During this tour German BMW engineer stated that all cars/trucks that has a turbo is a want a be vehicle. He said it was poor man’s wants be car/truck. It is cheaper way to make the vehicle to give more horsepower. When he said “poor man’s” he meant that car will keep a person poor having vehicle repaired.
Ford Ecoboost.... does that ring a bell? Tiny little engine trying to keep up with the big boys. Nothing but mechanical trash.
Every auto RUclipsr claiming the market is crashing. I don’t see it at all. Sure, there are some slight discounts to be found. But even the used truck market is still raging. Prices have gone up on the used F150s in the last couple months. I’ve been looking for a used 2017 or later Lariat with under 60k miles for months. They are still well above $30k. I seen a couple drop into the high $20s around Christmas. But now back up again. MSRPs up against for 2024. My days of owning decent low mileage vehicles is over. Insurance premiums have tripled for us in Florida in the last five years as well. I’m going to find a beater and just do my own maintenance.
Prices aren’t going to come down without a recession as bad or worse than 2008, at least this is what I think.
In everything since 2020 we keep hearing “prices will have to come down” yet they’re still selling vehicles, houses, etc.
They just going to high prices and low volume vs lower prices and higher volume to stay in business.
If people buy all these things and overextend themselves it may happen again though.
Marking a truck up 100% then offering a 20% discount is still a good deal for the dealership
You can easily get 10k off the nissan platinum and pro4x. I'm in the market for a 2024 1500 truck and managed to get 13k off and a 1.9 apr through nissan. I'm going around to other dealerships to see if I can get good deals on other brands. But the nissan platinum is a good contender.
Thanks for the info, I’ve been looking at them also.
@anthonylabeau6159 if you can't find a 2023 model with 0% apr. Then wait a few months till June or July. Around that time they usually give 0% apr for the current models. That's when I more than likely buy one. And again minimum discount to shoot for is 10k off msrp
Out of all the ones you've shown the Chevys seemed like they were the best deals compared to what's been going on lately
125,000 on a truck???? unless one is a building contractor ? iwould never put 125,00 on any vehcule it would go on a house. that keeps it values compared to motor or even electric vehicules.
I remember when a brand new Dodge Powerwagon 4x4 3/4 ton and a whopper V8 was $4700 and gas was 22.9 cents
So , how old are you 198 , 😂😂😂😂
You remember Pre Liberal democrat era , before the Liberal media Lied about everything to cover for the New World order and the globalist agenda ... Biden has your backs !
Must have been the 60s. Cheapest gas I recall was about 24 cents. Mid 60s.
As long as we hold out and dont buy we will get lower prices. I am in the market for new truck but not rushing. Holding out till i see more because i belive this is just the start.
Time for dealers and manufactures to know that they screwed us last few years ao now its our turn in returning the favor.
I remember being in college and wanting the 2013 Charger Daytona. It cost about 35k for a decked out muscle car with all the bells and whistles. I didn’t think just a mere decade later that would be the cost of a base model….
All I want is that new $15,000 Toyota truck that probably will never be sold in the US because it would outright kill these other trucks business.