Yes, I'm glad I have never, as of yet, been on the internet or had a computer. And I don't think I will ever bother buying the internet. I've never got any money anyway. None of that internet stuff is cheap. And I've heard that there are an unconscionable amount of adverts on there. Even worse than television.
Its a shame he only saw success later in life. Such a tortured soul, yet seemed very kind to the people he kept close and had amazing life observations. RIP Charles, then again legends never die. He lives forever in his works.
'Hank.' That was what he liked to be called, by his friends. I have been a fan for 30 years. Last year I had his name tattooed, large, on my left arm. He would have called me an idiot, and he would have been right. His best poem, in my opinion, is 'The Strongest of the Strange.'
Social media isn’t dumbing us down. We’ve always been this dumb. We just never noticed it before because prior to social media, we only had access to a few people in our lives. Now with social media, we access to nearly everyone across the globe, exposing our true idiocy as a whole.
Social media is the modern extreme version of what he’s talking about, he’s also talking about the neighborhood, the school, and those goddam friends people go on and on about
@@exactlyvagueI don’t think anyone seriously discussing the topic thinks social media is making people dumber cuz you can see people doing dumb things and they don’t start with the premise people are dumber today
BUKOWSKI. I've been a fan for 30 years. I had to get that name tattooed on my left arm, my writing arm, for love alone, after 30 years of pure connection. Big love from Birmingham, England. 'Don't Try.'
Jungian Synchronicity is happening to me cause I was humming Total Eclipse of the Heart then I stumbled on an article about Total Eclipse then I open RUclips and your comment mentions Total Eclipse 😁
@@williamgaly4579He is correct. I am listening to Earl Nightingales’ “The Strangest Secret”. A thirty-minute recording & he says very clearly that masses just confirm to others & he is correct in my opinion.
People that say he was just a drunk, lazy, fool have totally missed the point. Not that I think there really is a point, I think you either get Bukowski and he resonates with you, or think he's some loser.
he got the quote wrong. "The thing is, you see, that the strongest man in the world is the man who stands most alone." An Enemy of the People (1882) act 5
I don't think they would have gotten along. Buk always liked that quote, "Hell is other people," by Sartre, and he didn't care for other artists, very much. He had his own insecurities, and his own fragility of ego that he talked about in his most candid moments. The only one of the Beats Buk seemed to like was Burroughs, and that was because Burroughs, when asked if he wanted to meet Buk, said "no." Then again, since Thompson drank and drank hard, they might have gotten along.
@@kakonis I believe Bukowski wrote about Thompson in a poem. I can't remember the name of the poem, because I'm drunk, but it centred on a wild and crazy political journalist much lauded by other writers. Bukowski dismissed the political writer. He described him as 'grandstanding.' I love Thompson and Bukowski. Thompson wrote my favourite book; Bukowski is my literary hero.
@@justinedse8435 He wrote a story about it, and described Cassidy/Moriarty in pretty complimentary terms, saying he liked the way he drove and the wild look in his eyes. I think it was one of his more ragged stories that appeared in an L.A. Weekly. Even Ginsberg described Buk's portrait of his friend as "simpatico," though Buk's disdain for Kerouac was well-noted.
Maybe this is why people like Bukowski whose parents were not native English speakers and peoples like the Irish who had their language removed, are more free thinkers more of a fresh canvas.
You’re on to something there. In Irish something as foundational as describing one’s emotions is done with a preposition rather than with an adjective. I didn’t think about the significance of this until recently.
I want to say what I know about this man I have loved for years. I know his father was fond of the American expression, "Well shit fire and save matches!". That's actually the only one thing I know about Bukowski and I just made it up. His father should have been fond of saying that phrase while walking past his son into the living room to establish dominance at the big chair. I don't know Chuck talked about that a couple of times, of helping things happen or not getting in the way of what should have been. This guy angers me to no end, "WHY TRY" man you don't write that! You keep that to yourself. I never understood it. He always got up for work at the P.O for what 25 years? I'm sure in his rambling days he was up early, hungover and angry with the rest of em waiting outside the labor joint. I can't remember, he wrote about I should know but my angle is that he was no fluff. He was *always* trying. The line was the thing but Bukowski never had to try at writing. He just needed enough time and space when he was younger to be able to not try and to hopefully let his genius work itself out the way he was hoping. Anyway that's a lot of trying up and down the years. So I don't get it, it must be a prank. Another absurdist 20th century art failure, the tomb that asks the Sphinx to hand over it's notebook. I mean c'mon, even the failtrolls need to TRY HARDER.
@@smoothbuddha7212 Well hey man thank you for that, you helped me understand something I hadn't before. I've read most of Hank's works, SCREAMS FROM THE BALCONY a particular favorite for the raw look into his mind thinking and writing at that time, but I never understood the "don't try" and now that you explain it of course it makes perfect sense. It's exactly like how I tell someone "try harder" knowing they will never make it up that hill but at least I won't have to watch them climb it. "Fail harder" is a good one too, if one is doing a bit of trolling on RUclips.
But he was definitely emotionally broken from his bad childhood that he talks about multiple times, he never grew up in a good and peaceful home, but he accepted abuse for many years from his father... making him an addicted to booze.
Interesting observation, and something that I've been thinking about myself when it comes to my authentic self. Who am I, it's that question that overwhelms me. I'll go and try to answer it, but the more answers that come up the more questions that meet them. I think it's these questions that create havoc in my life when I'm in social settings. I'll usually sit quiet and observe, and question reality. It seems scripted, intentionally fake hologram displayed to the world. It's really when you run into "weird" people where you question where the rest of the real people are. I think especially with social media, people observe what "works", and replicate that. As in you see someone go to a resort in Mexico, and you replicate that based on how accepted that trip is in your social sphere. Then your aim the whole time is to show that circle on how you went on this trip, and that's your life you go through the motions of replicating experiences you've seen other people have. Can't say that is the case for everyone but a majority do in some form or another.
When he said God's he didn't mean worship or having idols he meant fate and fortune. They called it luck here. What he means when he says the strongest man have no God's he means that people without luck are going to be the strongest because they have to struggle the most.
Hey boys that thing in the screen is only Charles Bukwoski who accepted a clean shirt a few days before, so He's trying to answer his mission with the journalist encouraged by.
You can't expect someone who has the same ideas and views as him to be well adjusted to society. They are always marginalized, being drunk or on drugs.
Don't take him literally. If you do, you basically have to become a cynic, alcoholic and depressed person. I'm not saying that Bukowski isn't "objectively" right about the general view on contemporary life, but just think twice before you listen to him as an advisor and be prepared to become pretty unhappy.
you must be unhappy before you can be free. change means discomfort. whether you want to be in such a state or not is entirely up to you, but id rather be alcoholic & depressed than "normal" (& still really depressed deep down). also you dont have to be a cynic just because you think like this. ive found being very lonely and depressed and then not caring what others think about me has enabled me to care more for them now. its enabled me to stop faking when i really dont give a shit. to actually be real with people. because thats how you actually care.
People like him are a crutch for people already broken by society and it's actions. One can only hope that anyone listening to him hoping to gain insight in a world they helped create due to their ignorance but always had a safety net with financial family support etc. This people should experience unhappiness like the rest of us.
@@oharryc "You must be unhappy before you can be free." Children are happy because they live a life of delusion. Once they get a bit older, life gets real. They can choose to continue living a life of delusion, as many people do; or they can choose to accept reality, ground themselves in truth, then live a true life of contentment after dealing with the initial grief of reality.
I would say the disruption of talent or creativity lies chiefly in the communication of television, newspapers, magazines and social media. These are certainly a destraction from being
These comments are so amusing only noticing his critism of not developing independent opinion being overly influenced by others yet he grouped himself in with Adolph Hitler and made a remark about "the devil's face" behind the light people seem oblivious of. He had a horrible abusive childhood so naturally if you ask him where talent comes from he speaks from his personal experience but many would not be improved by a traumatic environment but rather by a more nurturing one he was probably just smarter than most and so perserveried he didn't have good looks or money or anything else so had to compensate by developing a unique personality and writing ability or he would be of no interest to anyone and indeed he wasn't for years just another guy working for the post office cynical alcoholic with philosophical poetic attributes not sure about the Hitler comparison either he didn't do well in art school did better in the military during WW1 had a charisma too I suppose but "the best at war are those who preach peace" beware the genius of the crowd, danger in numbers.
The strongest men reject God and drown themselves in booze, is that it? Anyone can do without God who is content to be a degenerate wretch. To eschew God and still be a good man - that takes strength, or something more than strength; integrity. But if you cannot do that, don't fool yourself. Seek God, rather than jaundiced, drunken oblivion.
@@OnkelSteinGod is not a superstition. He is real. Superstitions are made-up fantasies, that pretend something is true, but without any evidence. If that's what you think God is, then good luck in that narrow-minded viewpoint.
Work --> Invest --> Get rich, even if it takes you and your children decades. It's the only way and it's fun while you 're doing it. All these "views of life" are very dangerous to your future well being.
J loved Nora by Ibsen. In detail J loved to see her. But J saw her as a modern woman: a kind of Ingmar Bergman in future time. Nowadays we call that character Nora by Ibsen (or Norma that takes her place in Music, lyric, poetry, movies, theatre, for example)
@@gioconda4736 oh la gioconda. Penso che sia un quadro pittato su donna italiana (forse etrusca) dei bei tempi passati. Un dipinto fatto da un pittore italiano ma che poi l'abbiano tenura in un museo in francia.
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"Communication is the greatest destroyer of talent."
Welcome to the Internet Age.
yes, parents must keep away as much as possible their kids from this internet bubble full of illusions
Yes, I'm glad I have never, as of yet, been on the internet or had a computer. And I don't think I will ever bother buying the internet. I've never got any money anyway. None of that internet stuff is cheap. And I've heard that there are an unconscionable amount of adverts on there. Even worse than television.
'The Man Who Laughs' can only be a Joker.
We live in a... what?
Is this loss?
@@ChilliCheezdog :D This is true! :D
Its a shame he only saw success later in life. Such a tortured soul, yet seemed very kind to the people he kept close and had amazing life observations. RIP Charles, then again legends never die. He lives forever in his works.
'Hank.' That was what he liked to be called, by his friends. I have been a fan for 30 years. Last year I had his name tattooed, large, on my left arm. He would have called me an idiot, and he would have been right. His best poem, in my opinion, is 'The Strongest of the Strange.'
kind except to his partners whom he beat
Based on his work, I don’t think he’d call it a shame. He’d say that is exactly what is needed to become a great writer.
This man was talking about social media in the 80’s Today social media is dumbing people down at an alarming rate.
Social media isn’t dumbing us down. We’ve always been this dumb. We just never noticed it before because prior to social media, we only had access to a few people in our lives. Now with social media, we access to nearly everyone across the globe, exposing our true idiocy as a whole.
Social media is the modern extreme version of what he’s talking about, he’s also talking about the neighborhood, the school, and those goddam friends people go on and on about
@@exactlyvagueI don’t think anyone seriously discussing the topic thinks social media is making people dumber cuz you can see people doing dumb things and they don’t start with the premise people are dumber today
clever interviewer..."theres something behind the light"...CB "the devil's face?" Brilliant!
BUKOWSKI. I've been a fan for 30 years. I had to get that name tattooed on my left arm, my writing arm, for love alone, after 30 years of pure connection. Big love from Birmingham, England. 'Don't Try.'
Made me think of this quote from Total Eclipse:
"Don't you think that poets can learn from one another?"
"Only if they're bad poets."
Jungian Synchronicity is happening to me cause I was humming Total Eclipse of the Heart then I stumbled on an article about Total Eclipse then I open RUclips and your comment mentions Total Eclipse 😁
@@katlamb4606 Might be the universe telling you to watch the film :)
@@audunmagnusmoss yeah. I'll definitely watch it!😊
Hes not for most people, like many brilliant minds. If you cant understand or relate, its easier to just knock him.
Buk, you're one of the greatest, I miss you so much.😢
what a man
Charles Bukowski was a man unlike any other. Let's keep it that way.
Poem written by Bukowski:
"She ski,
On my bi,
Till I di."
lol
And you are?
You are inspiring me to quit reading things that inspire their own quitting
He was correct. It was just television & newspapers. Today it’s all that plus social media. There is a generic undercurrent.
I like “generic undercurrent” - seems so
@@williamgaly4579He is correct. I am listening to Earl Nightingales’ “The Strangest Secret”. A thirty-minute recording & he says very clearly that masses just confirm to others & he is correct in my opinion.
People that say he was just a drunk, lazy, fool have totally missed the point. Not that I think there really is a point, I think you either get Bukowski and he resonates with you, or think he's some loser.
He worked a job most of his life that is what is funny. He wasnt as bad as perceived.
He was a factotum for a long period of his life, then a post office worker for the last stretch.
And he was worst than is perceived. Or better. To put it in Bukowskese.
"I think he's some loser."
t. Some Nobody
he got the quote wrong.
"The thing is, you see, that the strongest man in the world is the man who stands most alone."
An Enemy of the People (1882) act 5
He speaks the truth !
I really wouldve Loved to See Bukowski and Hunter s. Thompson discussing the meaning of Life....
I don't think they would have gotten along. Buk always liked that quote, "Hell is other people," by Sartre, and he didn't care for other artists, very much. He had his own insecurities, and his own fragility of ego that he talked about in his most candid moments. The only one of the Beats Buk seemed to like was Burroughs, and that was because Burroughs, when asked if he wanted to meet Buk, said "no." Then again, since Thompson drank and drank hard, they might have gotten along.
wouldve loved to watch those two make out
@@kakonis I believe Bukowski wrote about Thompson in a poem. I can't remember the name of the poem, because I'm drunk, but it centred on a wild and crazy political journalist much lauded by other writers. Bukowski dismissed the political writer. He described him as 'grandstanding.' I love Thompson and Bukowski. Thompson wrote my favourite book; Bukowski is my literary hero.
@@kakonis I heard Buk went on a car ride one time with some beats, Neal Cassidy among them, and he didn't like it.
@@justinedse8435 He wrote a story about it, and described Cassidy/Moriarty in pretty complimentary terms, saying he liked the way he drove and the wild look in his eyes. I think it was one of his more ragged stories that appeared in an L.A. Weekly. Even Ginsberg described Buk's portrait of his friend as "simpatico," though Buk's disdain for Kerouac was well-noted.
This man has inspired me to quit.
Why Dear?
@@gioconda4736 most people are disappointing.
That’s a bit dumb
bye bye
@unsinnkim3690 Dude, the people responding to you just *don't get it.*
They have no idea Bukowski's final epitaph was "Don't try"...
Maybe this is why people like Bukowski whose parents were not native English speakers and peoples like the Irish who had their language removed, are more free thinkers more of a fresh canvas.
i find second language useful for that but most folks can learn one and prob should.
You’re on to something there. In Irish something as foundational as describing one’s emotions is done with a preposition rather than with an adjective. I didn’t think about the significance of this until recently.
I've never liked someone I disagree with so much
Seriously. I usually disagree with most of what he says. But his originality and sincerity is refreshing.
I want to say what I know about this man I have loved for years. I know his father was fond of the American expression, "Well shit fire and save matches!". That's actually the only one thing I know about Bukowski and I just made it up. His father should have been fond of saying that phrase while walking past his son into the living room to establish dominance at the big chair. I don't know Chuck talked about that a couple of times, of helping things happen or not getting in the way of what should have been. This guy angers me to no end, "WHY TRY" man you don't write that! You keep that to yourself. I never understood it. He always got up for work at the P.O for what 25 years? I'm sure in his rambling days he was up early, hungover and angry with the rest of em waiting outside the labor joint. I can't remember, he wrote about I should know but my angle is that he was no fluff. He was *always* trying. The line was the thing but Bukowski never had to try at writing. He just needed enough time and space when he was younger to be able to not try and to hopefully let his genius work itself out the way he was hoping. Anyway that's a lot of trying up and down the years. So I don't get it, it must be a prank. Another absurdist 20th century art failure, the tomb that asks the Sphinx to hand over it's notebook. I mean c'mon, even the failtrolls need to TRY HARDER.
@@smoothbuddha7212 Well hey man thank you for that, you helped me understand something I hadn't before. I've read most of Hank's works, SCREAMS FROM THE BALCONY a particular favorite for the raw look into his mind thinking and writing at that time, but I never understood the "don't try" and now that you explain it of course it makes perfect sense. It's exactly like how I tell someone "try harder" knowing they will never make it up that hill but at least I won't have to watch them climb it. "Fail harder" is a good one too, if one is doing a bit of trolling on RUclips.
dense block of ranty text...only got through about five lines...
If you think he was broken, as you said in your description then you do not understand.
But he was definitely emotionally broken from his bad childhood that he talks about multiple times, he never grew up in a good and peaceful home, but he accepted abuse for many years from his father... making him an addicted to booze.
Interesting observation, and something that I've been thinking about myself when it comes to my authentic self. Who am I, it's that question that overwhelms me. I'll go and try to answer it, but the more answers that come up the more questions that meet them. I think it's these questions that create havoc in my life when I'm in social settings. I'll usually sit quiet and observe, and question reality. It seems scripted, intentionally fake hologram displayed to the world. It's really when you run into "weird" people where you question where the rest of the real people are.
I think especially with social media, people observe what "works", and replicate that. As in you see someone go to a resort in Mexico, and you replicate that based on how accepted that trip is in your social sphere. Then your aim the whole time is to show that circle on how you went on this trip, and that's your life you go through the motions of replicating experiences you've seen other people have. Can't say that is the case for everyone but a majority do in some form or another.
I don't think he was "broken" as you write in your description...
why
A Hekate Devotion,
Explain yourself
Explain
“The strongest men are without Gods.”
Only more reason to become a Buddhist.
truer words have not been spoken
"The strongest men are without guts." - Eilert in Hedda Gabler
"The strongest man upon the earth is he who stands most alone." - Ibsen
@toro_bravo_80 Yeah, Bukowski was all about those organized religions.
:D :D :D
Lol God by a different name
Have balls to go alone
A western, cherrypicking, sentimental buddhist who thinks they are very very deep, and "spiritual not religious"
Amazing mind.....if he did not drink would he have been so good?......Amazing intelligence.
When he said God's he didn't mean worship or having idols he meant fate and fortune. They called it luck here. What he means when he says the strongest man have no God's he means that people without luck are going to be the strongest because they have to struggle the most.
Alcohol often serves ultimately as a cheap anxiolytic, erasing the fear to create, enabling the courage to do so.
I'd like to be a fine gentleman 😢
This man must have been an ancestor of Lemmy Kilmister
His opining is better than his poetry
Opining?
disagree his poetry is beautiful
@@groovi35giving opinions
...in your little opinion...
Hey boys that thing in the screen is only Charles Bukwoski who accepted a clean shirt a few days before, so He's trying to answer his mission with the journalist encouraged by.
?
turns out you can just string a bunch of words together and call it a sentence! who knew?
@@adityabhagwat7231 TRUUUUU Who knew? lmao
me when i drink:
Sometimes I kinda
miss Ol' Hank
I cant communicate without talent
You can't expect someone who has the same ideas and views as him to be well adjusted to society. They are always marginalized, being drunk or on drugs.
I 43 years old never has a friend,lac of talent
Kanye would have loved him. And I suppose he would have loved Kanye.
nothing wrong with that.
Don't take him literally. If you do, you basically have to become a cynic, alcoholic and depressed person. I'm not saying that Bukowski isn't "objectively" right about the general view on contemporary life, but just think twice before you listen to him as an advisor and be prepared to become pretty unhappy.
you just have a small brain capacity and lack the ability to comprehend his musings
you must be unhappy before you can be free. change means discomfort. whether you want to be in such a state or not is entirely up to you, but id rather be alcoholic & depressed than "normal" (& still really depressed deep down).
also you dont have to be a cynic just because you think like this. ive found being very lonely and depressed and then not caring what others think about me has enabled me to care more for them now. its enabled me to stop faking when i really dont give a shit. to actually be real with people. because thats how you actually care.
Umm, this is the more than necessary add-on to my unhappy.
People like him are a crutch for people already broken by society and it's actions. One can only hope that anyone listening to him hoping to gain insight in a world they helped create due to their ignorance but always had a safety net with financial family support etc. This people should experience unhappiness like the rest of us.
@@oharryc "You must be unhappy before you can be free."
Children are happy because they live a life of delusion. Once they get a bit older, life gets real. They can choose to continue living a life of delusion, as many people do; or they can choose to accept reality, ground themselves in truth, then live a true life of contentment after dealing with the initial grief of reality.
The man is right in every aspect. But unfortunately i have to keep in touch with alot of people because i have to kids to rise.
@@henrynoone3595 how unfortunate
I would say the disruption of talent or creativity lies chiefly in the communication of television, newspapers, magazines and social media. These are certainly a destraction from being
😊
These comments are so amusing only noticing his critism of not developing independent opinion being overly influenced by others yet he grouped himself in with Adolph Hitler and made a remark about "the devil's face" behind the light people seem oblivious of. He had a horrible abusive childhood so naturally if you ask him where talent comes from he speaks from his personal experience but many would not be improved by a traumatic environment but rather by a more nurturing one he was probably just smarter than most and so perserveried he didn't have good looks or money or anything else so had to compensate by developing a unique personality and writing ability or he would be of no interest to anyone and indeed he wasn't for years just another guy working for the post office cynical alcoholic with philosophical poetic attributes not sure about the Hitler comparison either he didn't do well in art school did better in the military during WW1 had a charisma too I suppose but "the best at war are those who preach peace" beware the genius of the crowd, danger in numbers.
Serendipity
I AGREE
#NoMoreTalent, #AllOnTheSamePage
What he mean ab hitler?
The moral neutrality of genius. Genius doesnt mean good. It shouldnt be aspirational, it is a description of the mind not a prognosis of the life.
@@superultrasmash9790 thanks both of you for asking and explaining! I was confused too by him mentioning those dictators.
@@superultrasmash9790except that hitler was a simpleton. like all nazis.
Don't baquitter
This man is God
Oversocialization.
The stongest men are without what? Guts, gods? What did he say?
DOUBT
learn to turn on captions, you must
Without gods
ducks
Yawn. Zog in poetry
Bukowski seems more and more like a moral relativist the more I watch interviews of him, being able to call Hitler a genius.
The strongest men reject God and drown themselves in booze, is that it? Anyone can do without God who is content to be a degenerate wretch. To eschew God and still be a good man - that takes strength, or something more than strength; integrity. But if you cannot do that, don't fool yourself. Seek God, rather than jaundiced, drunken oblivion.
Superstition does not make better human beings, quite the contrary
@@OnkelSteinGod is not a superstition. He is real. Superstitions are made-up fantasies, that pretend something is true, but without any evidence. If that's what you think God is, then good luck in that narrow-minded viewpoint.
@@stuartbritton4811 hahahahjajajajajajbajJajaava
It's oblivion either way, baby. You are a false prophet and god is a superstition.
@@stuartbritton4811 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Lmao
How can you Prove God? He's dead and his corpse is this rotting heat-dying universe
What a load of drivel.
shut up
honestly
Work --> Invest --> Get rich, even if it takes you and your children decades. It's the only way and it's fun while you 're doing it. All these "views of life" are very dangerous to your future well being.
ooh. voice of reason. ooh
Get lost
And stfu about other people's way to live
some of us hate working man unless it’s something we care about that doesnt pay for crap. what then??
@@polsyg6581 If you hate working you are basically screwed. Make sure to change that.
J loved Nora by Ibsen. In detail J loved to see her. But J saw her as a modern woman: a kind of Ingmar Bergman in future time. Nowadays we call that character Nora by Ibsen (or Norma that takes her place in Music, lyric, poetry, movies, theatre, for example)
Uttavvio
@@gioconda4736 oh la gioconda. Penso che sia un quadro pittato su donna italiana (forse etrusca) dei bei tempi passati. Un dipinto fatto da un pittore italiano ma che poi l'abbiano tenura in un museo in francia.
@@emanuelacomerio5334 ho magnato