I just found your channel and Both AgLoco and the railway locomotive are very interesting and exciting projects. I hope everything is still going well considering the lack of updates for the last six months.
Not a single Covid infection in New Zealand for the last four months. But no new vids for the same period😉🤔 Hope the circulation pumps worked. Love your work.
In Britain we are a bit envious of your Government’s brilliant handling of the pandemic 🤔 Good to hear that public gatherings are now possible in New Zealand. Best wishes for the feedback you get from the show🪵🪵🪵🍀
Thanks, Stephen. Just in the last few hours a community case in NZ so some restrictions have been imposed again. If the same were to happen late in March that will be the end of field days! But very lucky here all the same.
@@Mackwell-Co Your Govt is continuing to be highly successful against COVID-19, not least due to the support of all New Zealanders. Unfortunately our Govt in the UK has too high a 'risk appetite' towards the pandemic. On the plus side having a high risk appetite is a vital part of innovation, such as with your sustainable locomotive.... moderated by all those safety calculations that you are doing. For my day-job I was a Sociologist with an interest in the Grid-Group Theory of risk perception. The best writers on this is Michael Thompson and Marco Vereij who has written many case environmental studies which I think you'd like, including 'Clumsy Solutions for a Wicked World'. The argument is that the most robust solutions to problems which affect many people and are susceptible to different solutions, are the ones that use more than one form of reasoning and ideally all four. These are known as Hierarchical, Egalitarian, Individualistic and Competitive. Hierarchy believes that the problem is deviance and the solution is regulation and rule enforcement. 'We can trust each other if we all stick to the rules' (Medium Risk Appetite) Egalitarian reasoning argues that in the face of an existential threat to all, 'nobody should benefit unless everybody benefits' and that the system is the problem. (Low Risk Appetite) Individualistic reasoning argues 'I don't care about you. My way works for me and we will let competition decide who is right'. (High Risk Appetite) Fatalistic reasoning argues 'I don't care about you. There's little I can do to change the world. What matters is keeping my head down and doing what I can to ensure my own survival' (Extremely Low Risk Appetite) Thompson and co workers give many examples when all of these rationalities aka 'Thought Styles' engage with each other, finding solutions that none of them can develop in isolation. Your project is Hierarchical in that it honours and applies Engineering Laws; Egalitarian in that you are working to the collective benefit of all; Individualistic because you are devoting your energies to an innovative project which has some risk of commercial failure and Fatalistic in the sense that you respect the limitations of materials and do not wish to injure yourself. Your project is 'poly rational' (in Thompson's terminology 'clumsy'). You are giving yourself the best chances of success. Note that that each Thought Style is a) reasonable b) antagonistic c) defines 'the problem' differently d) can solve problems of a specific type e) is confounded by 'surprises' which it cannot solve. There are no other ways of thinking. According to Grid-Group Cultural Theory, our thinking is 'enabled culturally' and as 'cultural subjects' you and I as well as any critics are therefore able to understand each other. Each Thought Style animates (provokes) the others... for example when I swear at a politician who comes on the TV and says something which I find ridiculous. Happily your Govt is poly-rational but above all Hierarchical AND Egalitarian in its response to COVID. It has an appropriate understanding of the risks posed and appropriate policies towards it. Fatalistic 'screw you' thinking has been muted. Stay healthy. Keep innovating!
Hey I just wanted to give some advice. There is thing call torrefied biomass. It's similar to coal but it's made from biomass. Thought you'd be interested.
@@Mackwell-Co That's a lot more complicated considering most "tractors" these days are functionally autonomous house-sized computers. Dunno if heat generated from burning wood would generate enough energy for that in as compact a space as oil.
watching stuff like this is really impressive but I am kinda confused about one thing is the boiler insulated if not why would it not increase how efficient the boiler is?
Um Mr Sam its been three months how are you proceeding I am very curious how its coming, what progress has been made but its been a spell since you updated or posted, also does this use a cyclonic gas producer or just a regular, want to learn more of the cyclonic type but even porta wrote very little on it though did find some stuff that pertains to the ace 3000 project that was worked on in the 1980's with mr bill withune and Mr Livio Dante Porta in the usa that was on google read under patents it was a facinating design with pre loaded modules of coal storage Thanks Signed Jeremy manga12
Proceeding very well but every minute spent on the AgLoco™ proposal so no progress in the workshop. The lack of workshop progress being extremely frustrating I might add. This boiler doesn't use the cyclonic gas producer combustion system but Porta's work on this is interesting nonetheless.
Oh OK sorry I didn’t realize you had another project that you were actively working on at the moment like the ag tractor should be pretty exciting when that gets finished there aren’t many steam tractors in the world let alone ones built in the modern. No the one guy from Wisconsin built a case 150 from scratch it took him six years thanks for the update though good luck Signed Jeremy manga12
@@Mackwell-Co also take note you have One of the foremost Steam restorers in the usa also keeping an eye on you and your progress I brought your name up when he was at the openhouse for nkp 765 Gary B of Diversified Rail he told us some of the times working with Mr Porta of visiting cuba trying to work on the sugercane engine, and the overage weight fees for all the things gary would bring along, and how porta copied all his books so he would have them for reference when working on the project, and when asked porta about his biggest accomplishment, Porta said it is something akin to an orchestra making an efficient engine, you have to take into account all the engines elements, 1 percent here 10 percent there and it adds up, he also I belive said you have a lot of different elements going on but you look like a competent mechanic though the world may have passed over mainline steam politically but there are niches where it may prove handy, think fireless cooker engines or small applications in switching perhaps where it might be viable in the future, when I discussed steam and electrification, he also said boilers for power generation can be viable with the right tech, like a plant down in brazil I believe uses eucalyptus in a somewhat small area around it grows so fast that they use it to fuel the combustion and it grows just as fast as they can use it mind you its not a huge plant but its entirely renewable, pretty much a perpetual source of power and with a good superheat can be a viable means of power for a small area and it dont take miles and miles of windmills. we also talked about the guy in idaho that was trying to make a new steam loco years back and is currently working on a small solar concentrator to heat water to steam at 300 psi and I think 800 degree superheat for generating power for use in the bush like Alaska and Africa cuz the diesel gen is ruining the landscape and its expensive and noisy, not too unlike that company in California that has solar collectors that heat water in a greenhouse environ to keep the dust of the desert off it and has a self cleaning robot to make steam for oil production more greenly then using natural gas to heat it, and passes it though a boiler, with the reflectors following the sun so it gets optimal angle to grab radiation and sunshine at all times its available. I also have people that are part of our railroad historical society that are part of fengler ward and medor solutions who are also working on the coalition for sustainable railroading, there is Kelly that is the vice president of our organization and works in production as well as logistical side I believe he said , and Zach that works more on the mechanical side both fairly adept at what the do and steam restoration. then there is me a history loving engine monkey, that follows research on steam and knows how great its power was and can be that there is still more that has not been done on a large full out scale to get even more out of the steam that is generated, like multipass design, rifled boiler tubes, and a good economizer, and steam reheating between compounding, as well as the cyclone gas producer firebox tech, sadly Porta did not write much about it in treatise, though told power plants of the increase in efficiency they could gain with a gas producer firebox but they were not interested, at the time. sadly, and it was the cyclonic one I wished to read more about, though mr waller in Switzerland tried it and could not get all the cyclones in the firebox to synchronize up Mr. Bensman said to me. well good luck Sam
Interesting and challenging project! You should also take a look at the Slovak type M273.1, a further development of the Austrian DT1. It had a very low documented fuel consumption of 41kg per 1000 tonne-kilometers. (with coal with a calorific value of 6500-6800kcal). The steam consumption of 6.88kg / PSih at 90km / h wasn't bad either. It had very good running properties (curves with a 275m radius could be negotiated at 75km / h), a maximum speed of 100km / h and was able to run 120km / h and more. Giesl-Gieslingen has done some design work on this vehicle. All in all, noteworthy for 1940. There are some "modern steam" locomotives in Europe. Unfortunately, the first ones are now being put out of service after "only" 25 years of use, because they were designed too weakly and are extremely worn out. A sad story. What I would also like to add: As a current industrial designer, I take a critical view of wood firing. First of all because of the particulate matter, secondly there are more ecological ways of firing a boiler in 2021, even if you ignore the methods that would have to be further developed. Greetings and have fun with the project, Florian. Since it is not easy to find, this vehicle was mentioned. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SŽ-Baureihe_M_273.1
Thanks, Florian. I have come across the M273.1 type before and was impressed by the specific steam consumption. To which modern steam locomotives do you refer as being taking out of service after only 25 years of use? Naturally we chose wood firing for being the most ecologically sustainable supply of energy, I'm not aware of any other zero-carbon sources that will out-perform it in terms of EROI. Can you elaborate?
@@Mackwell-Co The locomotives I was talking about are those of the Schafbergbahn in Austria. They were delivered in the early 1990s and are now gradually being replaced by diesel locomotives. Some of the locomotives will be used more gently for special trains and some will be dismantled as spare parts donors. It hurts me to say that, but after the problems that arose there, unfortunately the only economically sensible way to go. And also more ecological, because the diesel locomotives have much lower fuel consumption. I see wood as a raw material that is far too valuable to simply burn it. You can use it to build furniture, houses, cars, even airplanes. And the fine dust emissions when burning wood doesn't make it any easier. Existing, growing and healthy forests are what we actually need. Worldwide, this is unfortunately going in the wrong direction, even if there are local exceptions. If you assume that steam locomotives primarily make sense for tourist purposes, in my opinion the more sensible way is to use a light oil furnace and run it with vegetable oil. You can then use old cooking oil, for example. That was also one of the reasons why the Swiss planned their "modern steam locomotives" with light oil firing. This is currently the easiest way to operate steam locomotives ecologically without having to make a large investment. Not to mention the advantages in terms of operation and service. However, the fact that mineral oil is much cheaper and that the operation was carried out with this is another story. If we go a step further, we should rethink the crops from which the oil is made and close value chains. For example, hemp is much better than rabs, it grows quickly, does not leach out the soil and you could also use the fibers. There is a lot of potential there. The next step would be synthetic fuels obtained from wind, water and solar energy. Even with the current state of the art, it is possible to produce coal (In this process hydrogen is the waste product! :-D ) as well as liquid fuels. If all this is done in efficient factories, you can even use the waste heat extremely well and you get quite good efficiency. And because you have to recover C02 from the atmosphere for this process, this cycle is also closed and the primary energy source is the sun. But since there are only small, disjointed test facilities, this is the future. And the lobbing for oil is too strong and oil is too cheap to accelerate innovation in this area. Here in Austria, such a wood fired locomotive would not make sense to oporate. I think other concepts are needed here. But since the need for steam locomotives for tourist purposes is declining here, these are just nice brain exercises. For efficient day-to-day operation, you need something completely different. Nevertheless, it depends on the intended use! If you have local enough "waste wood" available, and the place of use allows this, your wood burning is also a way to go. From a technical point of view, it is a very nice project and a good exercise for an engineer. Something very useful could come out of it, perhaps even for a completely different field. Innovation usually starts where others stop, and wood-fired locomotives stopped decades ago, so I have no idea right now, what can evolve from that. Stay tuned and have fun!
That is a shame to hear about those locomotives being withdrawn, but diesel firing is just missing the point. The value of a steam locomotive is its ability to directly convert solid fuel into traction. A diesel engine will always outperform steam on thermal efficiency when the fuel is diesel. Had these locomotives been fired on solid bio-fuel, they would have made a strong economic and environmental case for themselves. The scope of waste cooking oil to have an impact is limited to powering little more than the supply chain that provided it to the restaurant in the first place. It turns out that the equivalent of 7% of global energy use is lost to open air fires (burning of biomass) every year. This is a lost opportunity to stop adding carbon to the carbon cycle. The global biomass resource is undervalued, having an electrical equivalent energy density 4x that of the best lithium ion batteries, this resource should not be wasted in power stations but saved as a transport/traction energy source. It is portable energy that we are struggling to electrify. There are two measures, EROI (energy return on energy invested) and affordability, both of which determine the impact that any option/technology can have on climate change. The better they both are, the faster we can transition away from fossil fuel. Because steam locomotion outperforms every other option on these two measures, it will play an important role in the carbon transition and the world beyond. The factors enabling this are the direct use of solid bio-fuel and the simplicity (even of highly advanced designs) of steam locomotive technology. On forests, I completely agree, but multiple studies have identified that forests may not be of much value in mitigating climate change due to various effects that we don't understand. That should never detract from the importance of forests however. If an energy crop is to be planted, then it should be trees, for the simple reason that this will capture the maximum of the sun's energy and result in the least damage to ecosystems. No herbicides and pesticides or annual cultivation. Increasing the use of biomass for energy can only result in increased forestation, not to mention making productive use of the residues created by the timber industries you mention. Why is wood not an option in Austria? Remember the troublesome particulate emissions do not exist with the new boiler technology developed here. Hope the above gives you some food for thought.
@@Mackwell-Co >>Why is wood not an option in Austria?>Had these locomotives been fired on solid bio-fuel, they would have made a strong economic and environmental case for themselves.
This may give you ideas for your steam engine, there is a video on RUclips by Jay Lena's garage on the Doble steam car just thought it might help, I love steam vehicles. So I want to help make them return to the world 🌎.
I am new to your videos and didn't see that video but thanks for telling me, the Doble steam car is cool 😎 and my favorite car I would like to build a car like it but I don't know how, and I see a lot of steam video on RUclips but no one except Jay Lena talks about the Doble so I thought I'd tell you about it just incase you didn't know about.
I just found your channel and Both AgLoco and the railway locomotive are very interesting and exciting projects. I hope everything is still going well considering the lack of updates for the last six months.
Going very well in fact! Our focus is entirely with AgLoco® and we are gaining momentum.
Much respect and hello from Christchurch :-P ... amazing project you have going .
Incredible. You're living the dream.
Not a single Covid infection in New Zealand for the last four months. But no new vids for the same period😉🤔 Hope the circulation pumps worked. Love your work.
I find it interresting that a technology that we thougt was outdated could be te solution to a eco friendly way of transport.
A idea just poped in my head have you considert using a giesl ejector ive heard they boost the efficency of a stean locomotive.
We use a Lempor ejector, a more advanced ejector design developed by Porta.
In Britain we are a bit envious of your Government’s brilliant handling of the pandemic 🤔 Good to hear that public gatherings are now possible in New Zealand. Best wishes for the feedback you get from the show🪵🪵🪵🍀
Thanks, Stephen. Just in the last few hours a community case in NZ so some restrictions have been imposed again. If the same were to happen late in March that will be the end of field days! But very lucky here all the same.
@@Mackwell-Co Your Govt is continuing to be highly successful against COVID-19, not least due to the support of all New Zealanders. Unfortunately our Govt in the UK has too high a 'risk appetite' towards the pandemic. On the plus side having a high risk appetite is a vital part of innovation, such as with your sustainable locomotive.... moderated by all those safety calculations that you are doing.
For my day-job I was a Sociologist with an interest in the Grid-Group Theory of risk perception. The best writers on this is Michael Thompson and Marco Vereij who has written many case environmental studies which I think you'd like, including 'Clumsy Solutions for a Wicked World'. The argument is that the most robust solutions to problems which affect many people and are susceptible to different solutions, are the ones that use more than one form of reasoning and ideally all four. These are known as Hierarchical, Egalitarian, Individualistic and Competitive.
Hierarchy believes that the problem is deviance and the solution is regulation and rule enforcement. 'We can trust each other if we all stick to the rules' (Medium Risk Appetite)
Egalitarian reasoning argues that in the face of an existential threat to all, 'nobody should benefit unless everybody benefits' and that the system is the problem. (Low Risk Appetite)
Individualistic reasoning argues 'I don't care about you. My way works for me and we will let competition decide who is right'. (High Risk Appetite)
Fatalistic reasoning argues 'I don't care about you. There's little I can do to change the world. What matters is keeping my head down and doing what I can to ensure my own survival' (Extremely Low Risk Appetite)
Thompson and co workers give many examples when all of these rationalities aka 'Thought Styles' engage with each other, finding solutions that none of them can develop in isolation.
Your project is Hierarchical in that it honours and applies Engineering Laws; Egalitarian in that you are working to the collective benefit of all; Individualistic because you are devoting your energies to an innovative project which has some risk of commercial failure and Fatalistic in the sense that you respect the limitations of materials and do not wish to injure yourself.
Your project is 'poly rational' (in Thompson's terminology 'clumsy').
You are giving yourself the best chances of success.
Note that that each Thought Style is a) reasonable b) antagonistic c) defines 'the problem' differently d) can solve problems of a specific type e) is confounded by 'surprises' which it cannot solve.
There are no other ways of thinking. According to Grid-Group Cultural Theory, our thinking is 'enabled culturally' and as 'cultural subjects' you and I as well as any critics are therefore able to understand each other.
Each Thought Style animates (provokes) the others... for example when I swear at a politician who comes on the TV and says something which I find ridiculous.
Happily your Govt is poly-rational but above all Hierarchical AND Egalitarian in its response to COVID. It has an appropriate understanding of the risks posed and appropriate policies towards it.
Fatalistic 'screw you' thinking has been muted.
Stay healthy. Keep innovating!
Would you ever consider selling smaller scale boilers? I'd love to make a modern traction engine for display and possibly use on my farm!
Most definitely! Have a look at our website here: agloco.co.nz
Hey I just wanted to give some advice. There is thing call torrefied biomass. It's similar to coal but it's made from biomass. Thought you'd be interested.
How does its calorific value compare with coal (by mass)? I’d like to use it.
@@stephensmith799 That I don't know.
Any news on the Mackwell locomotive project?
Big focus on AgLoco™ at the moment, updates to come. This will help us fund railway locomotive development independently. See: agloco.co.nz
Excellent!!!
where did u get the whistel on your steam loco? and what type is it, it sounds like a 5chime
I wonder if there would be a use in the agriculture sector for a modern steam driven tractor?
We think so! Stay tuned
@@Mackwell-Co That's a lot more complicated considering most "tractors" these days are functionally autonomous house-sized computers. Dunno if heat generated from burning wood would generate enough energy for that in as compact a space as oil.
watching stuff like this is really impressive but I am kinda confused about one thing is the boiler insulated if not why would it not increase how efficient the boiler is?
No it's not, it certainly should be! We just haven't had time and it doesn't affect the boiler as much as it would on a conventional firetube type.
Um Mr Sam its been three months how are you proceeding I am very curious how its coming, what progress has been made but its been a spell since you updated or posted, also does this use a cyclonic gas producer or just a regular, want to learn more of the cyclonic type but even porta wrote very little on it though did find some stuff that pertains to the ace 3000 project that was worked on in the 1980's with mr bill withune and Mr Livio Dante Porta in the usa that was on google read under patents it was a facinating design with pre loaded modules of coal storage
Thanks Signed Jeremy manga12
Proceeding very well but every minute spent on the AgLoco™ proposal so no progress in the workshop. The lack of workshop progress being extremely frustrating I might add. This boiler doesn't use the cyclonic gas producer combustion system but Porta's work on this is interesting nonetheless.
Oh OK sorry I didn’t realize you had another project that you were actively working on at the moment like the ag tractor should be pretty exciting when that gets finished there aren’t many steam tractors in the world let alone ones built in the modern. No the one guy from Wisconsin built a case 150 from scratch it took him six years thanks for the update though good luck
Signed Jeremy manga12
@@Mackwell-Co also take note you have One of the foremost Steam restorers in the usa also keeping an eye on you and your progress I brought your name up when he was at the openhouse for nkp 765 Gary B of Diversified Rail he told us some of the times working with Mr Porta of visiting cuba trying to work on the sugercane engine, and the overage weight fees for all the things gary would bring along, and how porta copied all his books so he would have them for reference when working on the project, and when asked porta about his biggest accomplishment, Porta said it is something akin to an orchestra making an efficient engine, you have to take into account all the engines elements, 1 percent here 10 percent there and it adds up, he also I belive said you have a lot of different elements going on but you look like a competent mechanic though the world may have passed over mainline steam politically but there are niches where it may prove handy, think fireless cooker engines or small applications in switching perhaps where it might be viable in the future, when I discussed steam and electrification, he also said boilers for power generation can be viable with the right tech, like a plant down in brazil I believe uses eucalyptus in a somewhat small area around it grows so fast that they use it to fuel the combustion and it grows just as fast as they can use it mind you its not a huge plant but its entirely renewable, pretty much a perpetual source of power and with a good superheat can be a viable means of power for a small area and it dont take miles and miles of windmills.
we also talked about the guy in idaho that was trying to make a new steam loco years back and is currently working on a small solar concentrator to heat water to steam at 300 psi and I think 800 degree superheat for generating power for use in the bush like Alaska and Africa cuz the diesel gen is ruining the landscape and its expensive and noisy, not too unlike that company in California that has solar collectors that heat water in a greenhouse environ to keep the dust of the desert off it and has a self cleaning robot to make steam for oil production more greenly then using natural gas to heat it, and passes it though a boiler, with the reflectors following the sun so it gets optimal angle to grab radiation and sunshine at all times its available.
I also have people that are part of our railroad historical society that are part of fengler ward and medor solutions who are also working on the coalition for sustainable railroading, there is Kelly that is the vice president of our organization and works in production as well as logistical side I believe he said , and Zach that works more on the mechanical side both fairly adept at what the do and steam restoration.
then there is me a history loving engine monkey, that follows research on steam and knows how great its power was and can be that there is still more that has not been done on a large full out scale to get even more out of the steam that is generated, like multipass design, rifled boiler tubes, and a good economizer, and steam reheating between compounding, as well as the cyclone gas producer firebox tech, sadly Porta did not write much about it in treatise, though told power plants of the increase in efficiency they could gain with a gas producer firebox but they were not interested, at the time. sadly, and it was the cyclonic one I wished to read more about, though mr waller in Switzerland tried it and could not get all the cyclones in the firebox to synchronize up Mr. Bensman said to me.
well good luck Sam
Interesting and challenging project!
You should also take a look at the Slovak type M273.1, a further development of the Austrian DT1.
It had a very low documented fuel consumption of 41kg per 1000 tonne-kilometers. (with coal with a calorific value of 6500-6800kcal). The steam consumption of 6.88kg / PSih at 90km / h wasn't bad either.
It had very good running properties (curves with a 275m radius could be negotiated at 75km / h), a maximum speed of 100km / h and was able to run 120km / h and more.
Giesl-Gieslingen has done some design work on this vehicle.
All in all, noteworthy for 1940.
There are some "modern steam" locomotives in Europe. Unfortunately, the first ones are now being put out of service after "only" 25 years of use, because they were designed too weakly and are extremely worn out. A sad story.
What I would also like to add:
As a current industrial designer, I take a critical view of wood firing. First of all because of the particulate matter, secondly there are more ecological ways of firing a boiler in 2021, even if you ignore the methods that would have to be further developed.
Greetings and have fun with the project, Florian.
Since it is not easy to find, this vehicle was mentioned.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SŽ-Baureihe_M_273.1
Thanks, Florian. I have come across the M273.1 type before and was impressed by the specific steam consumption.
To which modern steam locomotives do you refer as being taking out of service after only 25 years of use?
Naturally we chose wood firing for being the most ecologically sustainable supply of energy, I'm not aware of any other zero-carbon sources that will out-perform it in terms of EROI. Can you elaborate?
@@Mackwell-Co
The locomotives I was talking about are those of the Schafbergbahn in Austria.
They were delivered in the early 1990s and are now gradually being replaced by diesel locomotives.
Some of the locomotives will be used more gently for special trains and some will be dismantled as spare parts donors.
It hurts me to say that, but after the problems that arose there, unfortunately the only economically sensible way to go.
And also more ecological, because the diesel locomotives have much lower fuel consumption.
I see wood as a raw material that is far too valuable to simply burn it. You can use it to build furniture, houses, cars, even airplanes. And the fine dust emissions when burning wood doesn't make it any easier. Existing, growing and healthy forests are what we actually need. Worldwide, this is unfortunately going in the wrong direction, even if there are local exceptions.
If you assume that steam locomotives primarily make sense for tourist purposes, in my opinion the more sensible way is to use a light oil furnace and run it with vegetable oil. You can then use old cooking oil, for example. That was also one of the reasons why the Swiss planned their "modern steam locomotives" with light oil firing.
This is currently the easiest way to operate steam locomotives ecologically without having to make a large investment. Not to mention the advantages in terms of operation and service. However, the fact that mineral oil is much cheaper and that the operation was carried out with this is another story.
If we go a step further, we should rethink the crops from which the oil is made and close value chains. For example, hemp is much better than rabs, it grows quickly, does not leach out the soil and you could also use the fibers. There is a lot of potential there.
The next step would be synthetic fuels obtained from wind, water and solar energy. Even with the current state of the art, it is possible to produce coal (In this process hydrogen is the waste product! :-D ) as well as liquid fuels. If all this is done in efficient factories, you can even use the waste heat extremely well and you get quite good efficiency. And because you have to recover C02 from the atmosphere for this process, this cycle is also closed and the primary energy source is the sun.
But since there are only small, disjointed test facilities, this is the future.
And the lobbing for oil is too strong and oil is too cheap to accelerate innovation in this area.
Here in Austria, such a wood fired locomotive would not make sense to oporate. I think other concepts are needed here.
But since the need for steam locomotives for tourist purposes is declining here, these are just nice brain exercises.
For efficient day-to-day operation, you need something completely different.
Nevertheless, it depends on the intended use! If you have local enough "waste wood" available, and the place of use allows this, your wood burning is also a way to go.
From a technical point of view, it is a very nice project and a good exercise for an engineer. Something very useful could come out of it, perhaps even for a completely different field. Innovation usually starts where others stop, and wood-fired locomotives stopped decades ago, so I have no idea right now, what can evolve from that.
Stay tuned and have fun!
That is a shame to hear about those locomotives being withdrawn, but diesel firing is just missing the point. The value of a steam locomotive is its ability to directly convert solid fuel into traction. A diesel engine will always outperform steam on thermal efficiency when the fuel is diesel. Had these locomotives been fired on solid bio-fuel, they would have made a strong economic and environmental case for themselves. The scope of waste cooking oil to have an impact is limited to powering little more than the supply chain that provided it to the restaurant in the first place.
It turns out that the equivalent of 7% of global energy use is lost to open air fires (burning of biomass) every year. This is a lost opportunity to stop adding carbon to the carbon cycle.
The global biomass resource is undervalued, having an electrical equivalent energy density 4x that of the best lithium ion batteries, this resource should not be wasted in power stations but saved as a transport/traction energy source. It is portable energy that we are struggling to electrify.
There are two measures, EROI (energy return on energy invested) and affordability, both of which determine the impact that any option/technology can have on climate change. The better they both are, the faster we can transition away from fossil fuel.
Because steam locomotion outperforms every other option on these two measures, it will play an important role in the carbon transition and the world beyond. The factors enabling this are the direct use of solid bio-fuel and the simplicity (even of highly advanced designs) of steam locomotive technology.
On forests, I completely agree, but multiple studies have identified that forests may not be of much value in mitigating climate change due to various effects that we don't understand. That should never detract from the importance of forests however. If an energy crop is to be planted, then it should be trees, for the simple reason that this will capture the maximum of the sun's energy and result in the least damage to ecosystems. No herbicides and pesticides or annual cultivation. Increasing the use of biomass for energy can only result in increased forestation, not to mention making productive use of the residues created by the timber industries you mention.
Why is wood not an option in Austria?
Remember the troublesome particulate emissions do not exist with the new boiler technology developed here. Hope the above gives you some food for thought.
@@Mackwell-Co
>>Why is wood not an option in Austria?>Had these locomotives been fired on solid bio-fuel, they would have made a strong economic and environmental case for themselves.
This may give you ideas for your steam engine, there is a video on RUclips by Jay Lena's garage on the Doble steam car just thought it might help, I love steam vehicles. So I want to help make them return to the world 🌎.
Thanks, Cory! It already did, many years ago. See: ruclips.net/video/TDcTaQon3yo/видео.html
I am new to your videos and didn't see that video but thanks for telling me, the Doble steam car is cool 😎 and my favorite car I would like to build a car like it but I don't know how, and I see a lot of steam video on RUclips but no one except Jay Lena talks about the Doble so I thought I'd tell you about it just incase you didn't know about.