I don't see what the big deal is about the weight. For me, it feels fine. This bike is actually more comfortable than the cruiser I had. Totally in love with this thing. It looks beautiful and had a lot of sexy ass lines. And dude, torque for days! This baby has a lot of pull. I couldn't be happier.
It is heavy because the frame is made of steel. The fz8's frame and the z1000 are aluminium for example. But because the center of gravity is very low, the bike doesn't feel so heavy. Actually it feels very solid and agile while riding.
I love that they brought the headlights back to something more in line with the 1st gen Z1000/Z750. Don't get me wrong, I think the current Z1000 is gorgeous but the 1st gen will always be my favorite.
The weight is disappointing, but I still wish they released this here in the States. I would love to have this as a backup/daily bike. I think the styling aces the Z1000, and I love the girth of information on the new gauges!
Have tested this bike here in Malaysia. Being only 5'6", I was really intimidated initially, but once it started rolling, it feels like riding a 250cc! Heavyweight? Forgotten. Corners? So easy to turn in, it's almost telepathic. Smooth buttery gearbox that clicks instead of clacking like on other Kawas.
awesome video, really appreciate the improvements. you mentioned the weight as a negative but you didnt say whether it has affected the performance. Some heavy bikes can still work well depending on the overall package
well i can't really talk i just bought a 750 that is restricted to 100bhp for emission rules at the time in france. but i only got it to look at it anyway so not to fussed about the power. i've got my gsxr 1000 k1 and cbr 1000 rr7 for that.
Nice test, on the highways is better than z750? Can you make a comparative with z750 and the new 800? If this bike will made here in Brazil can be a honest price. Nice ride :)This is a nice bike but here in Brazil is too much expensive. Nice test, on the hightways
probly never, naked bikes do realy well over seas but in the states though if people like yamaha would offer a better package out the door with the fz8 we might start to switch over.i think they redid the 2013 fz8. it may be to late though
In the flesh the Z800 visually looks so much more interesting than the Z1000. I'm about to order one of these two (px'ing an 09 Z750) but I just can't decide between the them. I guess back to back test rides will give the answer.
as a young person (23) one would think that i would disagree with you, but after riding a bike with an analong tach and digi spedo, i can say that i prefer booth my tach and speedo to be analong just like my 02 SV650.
I have a 2012 ER6n and i know that the z800 is more powerful, but i havent find a design in japanese motorcycles that beats the ER. I find it the most beautiful naked bike yet (japanese)
up to you but the z750 in any spec has always had a rather dodgy write up, is it worth a discount to end up with a questionable bike? you have to decide whether you are gonna kick yourself in a month or so's time if you go for the old 750. Personally if i was on a budget i would rather buy a z1000 on low mileage and a few years old than buy a new 750, that is if your a kwak fan, if your not fussed about brands then you should look at the street triple a thoroughly awesome bike.
I would love to see this bike come to the US. I think more people could enjoy the 800 engine, the 1000 is just more engine than what is useful in this sort of platform. It needs to go on a serious diet though.
bit of a budget yeah, test rode all middleclass bikes you can think of and STR is still my favorite but the prices have gone waaaaaaaaaay up. and i just don't trust triumph as much as a japanese bike, specially not secondhand! time will tell :)
Great video - really wanted to like this bike, but the weight, child-like styling and boring engine tone from the sound of the video really means it doesn't grab me at all the way the Street Triple (which I have) and Ducati Streetfighter 848 do.
Nope again, my vehicle registration says 92 kW, that is equal to 125 Hp, but i can't show it you here (and you will probably not understand an Italian document), so i suggest you to do the easier thing. (I know that on the wheel the Hp are way less)
Need to turn the sound up! Otherwise good quality Weight is inexcusable though! How does this weigh so much more than a ZX10R for example? Its only 20kg less than a ZX14!!!!
Wow, such a big difference compared to Z750 Neeves?! I never liked the 750 either, went for 650R instead (er6f). The only reason they sold shi$loads of them in europe was the price - it was the cheapest in it's class, and had the most power.
+Foxy Moto There's gotta be more to it than that. There's PLENTY of inexpensive motorcycle that are lightweight; look at the FZ-07 and FZ-09, both of which are about a hundred pounds lighter than this thing and the same price or cheaper.
+opmike343 Ya, the MT-07 and MT-09 have 2 and 3 cylinders and some clever design from Yamaha. The Z800 has 4 cylinders and a steel frame and swing arm. The Z1000 uses aluminium, which is more expensive but also lighter. And if you compare the Z800 to other 4 cylinder middleweights, GSR750 (211kg, but a 750), FZ8 ABS (216, with an aluminium frame and swingarm) or even the GSF650 (over 240kg, steel frame and swingarm), it actually doesn't look so bad. But yes, the weight will put a lot of people off buying one. :-)
Dude 18bhp is a big difference. Full version has around 113bhp, while the E-version has 95bhp. It's very easy, horses are strong animals, and the full power version has 18 more horses to pull you 😂
I'll tell you. Due to lighter weight materials and such that are now being used in engines in the last 5 years or so, analog tachs simply cannot keep up with how fast modern sport bike engines can change RPM. You may like the way they look but your tach would never be accurate under any form of race performance. It would always be behind the current engine speed. They ran into a similar problems with the Nissan GT-R. I would prefer my tach to be accurate, not "old fashioned" and wrong.
The 2003 Z1000 is the best modern 'Z', certainly worthy of the original 70's design criteria... Other than it looks far too generic, much like the last 750 \ 1000 model, I'm not sure about this latest Z800 as I've not ridden one... but the last two Z750's were appalling to ride, absolutely gutless with awful suspension ( and that includes the 'R' ) !!
Whats up with the digital tachometers now a days. In my opinion it looks like shit. You can call me old fashioned, but nothing beats a good old analog tachometer. It gives the riding so much more feel to it in my opinion.
Now that is what I call a video :-). After some disregardful "look at my ass" videos that you posted, you guys are back on track :-). No more back cameras please, only stuff like this please :-). Keep up with the good work :-)
The last model had appalling suspension, even the uprated R model we had here wasn't a patch on the Street Triple. The 'old' sleeved down 750 engine was gutless and this one seems little more, why add a couple of teeth to the rear sprocket if its performance was adequate..this is 800cc for goodness sake and it has no more torque than a 600 !?? Sorry, even if this bike is a far more credible model than the last edition, this 'expensive version' should be a lot lot CHEAPER than the competition !
is that how you check your bhp on wikipedia? lmfao put it on a rolling road with legit bhp readings and you will see what it really puts out at the wheel.
I don't see what the big deal is about the weight. For me, it feels fine. This bike is actually more comfortable than the cruiser I had. Totally in love with this thing. It looks beautiful and had a lot of sexy ass lines. And dude, torque for days! This baby has a lot of pull. I couldn't be happier.
i got one and its fine only heavy when standing still.. ride it you dont feel the weight great ride
Love the production and detail that went into this video.
It is heavy because the frame is made of steel. The fz8's frame and the z1000 are aluminium for example. But because the center of gravity is very low, the bike doesn't feel so heavy. Actually it feels very solid and agile while riding.
Someone has already said but have to say a very good review video for a change for MCN
Yay finally a video with good sound! Nice work keep it up!
Weight can work for a bike too, if it's in the correct position.
It can enhance stability, smooth out bumps in the road and help the bike to turn.
I love that they brought the headlights back to something more in line with the 1st gen Z1000/Z750. Don't get me wrong, I think the current Z1000 is gorgeous but the 1st gen will always be my favorite.
Great review guys finally getting the sound right
WOW a good vid by MCN? It's been a few decades but I vote up :)
Your the best Mike, keep on rocking and rolking!!
Hope your hands thawed out!!
just tried this bike out. It feels light, actually, and its very agile. Fun bike to ride :)
The weight is disappointing, but I still wish they released this here in the States. I would love to have this as a backup/daily bike. I think the styling aces the Z1000, and I love the girth of information on the new gauges!
Have tested this bike here in Malaysia. Being only 5'6", I was really intimidated initially, but once it started rolling, it feels like riding a 250cc! Heavyweight? Forgotten.
Corners? So easy to turn in, it's almost telepathic. Smooth buttery gearbox that clicks instead of clacking like on other Kawas.
Great video. Let this be the template for all "first ride" videos.
awesome video, really appreciate the improvements. you mentioned the weight as a negative but you didnt say whether it has affected the performance. Some heavy bikes can still work well depending on the overall package
Agreed. I hate those digital ones that look like a progress bar on a computer
Wow a review of this bike already... I'm sure it's the first up! God I want to work with you guys!
the Z800 is the most popular bike here in Malaysia
Well done Video. Thank you for the good work.
my mate used to have z750 it was a nice little bike. bit windy over a certain speed but good round town
I like both. Tach for the revs, digital for the speedo.
im really really torn wether to get this new 800, which just looks fantastic, or the latest model z750R at a serious discount...
Wow that weight...I think they've attempted a go at a Speed Triple equivalent, but haven't quite got there.
I was going for a z750 before I took my license, but ended up with the Street triple after a test ride of them both. 229kg is just a bit to heavy..
Any update on a newer version of the Z1000 ???
That bike is sick!! Damn...
Such a good looking bike !
Let the good times roll!
the bike looks beautiful .
nice video
would have loved it if there was more noise from the bike
Anyone know if this will be coming to the United States? All we have here is the Z1000.
very good job ........we would like you to compere street triple, z800 and the streetfighter
good video ..but sound is still off , no wind, but stop the wisper drone voice show some punch
well i can't really talk i just bought a 750 that is restricted to 100bhp for emission rules at the time in france. but i only got it to look at it anyway so not to fussed about the power. i've got my gsxr 1000 k1 and cbr 1000 rr7 for that.
Which is better the Ducati street fighter 848 or the z800?
Calvin Green I was thinking the same. Neeves was also fan of the duc so witch does he think is better??
Nice test, on the highways is better than z750? Can you make a comparative with z750 and the new 800? If this bike will made here in Brazil can be a honest price. Nice ride :)This is a nice bike but here in Brazil is too much expensive. Nice test, on the hightways
probly never, naked bikes do realy well over seas but in the states though if people like yamaha would offer a better package out the door with the fz8 we might start to switch over.i think they redid the 2013 fz8. it may be to late though
In the flesh the Z800 visually looks so much more interesting than the Z1000.
I'm about to order one of these two (px'ing an 09 Z750) but I just can't decide between the them. I guess back to back test rides will give the answer.
as a young person (23) one would think that i would disagree with you, but after riding a bike with an analong tach and digi spedo, i can say that i prefer booth my tach and speedo to be analong just like my 02 SV650.
great vid, really good stuff
Shot guys, the future looks bright
I have a 2012 ER6n and i know that the z800 is more powerful, but i havent find a design in japanese motorcycles that beats the ER. I find it the most beautiful naked bike yet (japanese)
Looks really nice! but why the F is it so heavy???
Could it be a begineer's ride ?
They will never be as fun as my Street Triple R 2010 or anyone year model =)
up to you but the z750 in any spec has always had a rather dodgy write up, is it worth a discount to end up with a questionable bike? you have to decide whether you are gonna kick yourself in a month or so's time if you go for the old 750. Personally if i was on a budget i would rather buy a z1000 on low mileage and a few years old than buy a new 750, that is if your a kwak fan, if your not fussed about brands then you should look at the street triple a thoroughly awesome bike.
ha at 3:11 i see a Toyota Celica on the left, & it looks like the hood isn't closed completely... damn OCD
totaly agree with you!
Love it :) mite nick one of these next spring ! Only jesting ;)
god so much want such a gorgeous bike imo
beautiful bike! Love it! :)
is it ok if I started on this bike? (used to ride a moped) lol
Yes, no problem. Maybe go for a Honda CB500f or something and get bored of that one first, but this will do. Easey to ride.
I would love to see this bike come to the US. I think more people could enjoy the 800 engine, the 1000 is just more engine than what is useful in this sort of platform. It needs to go on a serious diet though.
Analog might look better, but it's also heavier and IIRC more expensive.
I'm 6'4 and I felt fine when taking it for a test ride. but go sit on one if you really want to find out what its like :)
bit of a budget yeah, test rode all middleclass bikes you can think of and STR is still my favorite but the prices have gone waaaaaaaaaay up. and i just don't trust triumph as much as a japanese bike, specially not secondhand! time will tell :)
Great video - really wanted to like this bike, but the weight, child-like styling and boring engine tone from the sound of the video really means it doesn't grab me at all the way the Street Triple (which I have) and Ducati Streetfighter 848 do.
is it?
Wow. why so heavy?
England ? what about the rest of the UK ? :/
Leaves us with the impression that all the RD did, was to bore out the sil.
Nice!
Nope again, my vehicle registration says 92 kW, that is equal to 125 Hp, but i can't show it you here (and you will probably not understand an Italian document), so i suggest you to do the easier thing.
(I know that on the wheel the Hp are way less)
I agree on every point.
The Green Goblin now has a motorbike!
love it
Need to turn the sound up! Otherwise good quality
Weight is inexcusable though! How does this weigh so much more than a ZX10R for example? Its only 20kg less than a ZX14!!!!
Wow, such a big difference compared to Z750 Neeves?! I never liked the 750 either, went for 650R instead (er6f). The only reason they sold shi$loads of them in europe was the price - it was the cheapest in it's class, and had the most power.
why no ZX8.....
It's heavier than their own Z1000! How?
+101francis101 It's more budget. Cheaper, heavier parts.
+Foxy Moto There's gotta be more to it than that. There's PLENTY of inexpensive motorcycle that are lightweight; look at the FZ-07 and FZ-09, both of which are about a hundred pounds lighter than this thing and the same price or cheaper.
+opmike343 Ya, the MT-07 and MT-09 have 2 and 3 cylinders and some clever design from Yamaha. The Z800 has 4 cylinders and a steel frame and swing arm. The Z1000 uses aluminium, which is more expensive but also lighter. And if you compare the Z800 to other 4 cylinder middleweights, GSR750 (211kg, but a 750), FZ8 ABS (216, with an aluminium frame and swingarm) or even the GSF650 (over 240kg, steel frame and swingarm), it actually doesn't look so bad. But yes, the weight will put a lot of people off buying one. :-)
A pound off here, a pound off there, and there may be a real adventure bike in the making?
47kg heavier than a street triple?/?
never gonna be able to sell my z750 now :-(
the z800e isn't lower spec, it's just lower power to suit the new A2 licence rules swear these guys think that power is everything -.-
Dude 18bhp is a big difference. Full version has around 113bhp, while the E-version has 95bhp. It's very easy, horses are strong animals, and the full power version has 18 more horses to pull you 😂
onya neeves. only good mcn vids.
Epic
wtf did kawasaki do to make the bike so heavy?
Changing that exhaust will knock 10kg of the weight
Conclusion for me was buy the street triple
I'll tell you. Due to lighter weight materials and such that are now being used in engines in the last 5 years or so, analog tachs simply cannot keep up with how fast modern sport bike engines can change RPM. You may like the way they look but your tach would never be accurate under any form of race performance. It would always be behind the current engine speed. They ran into a similar problems with the Nissan GT-R. I would prefer my tach to be accurate, not "old fashioned" and wrong.
He talks like he is preparing for a f*cking school assignment!
Z forever!
Im not sure about this, I think it was slapped with an ugly stick...I like it!!!
47kg. Fourty seven kilos. No way, I'd never change street triple for that.
BeauTiFUL BikE!!!
true, its like adding more fat and reducing muscles of the Z
The 2003 Z1000 is the best modern 'Z', certainly worthy of the original 70's design criteria...
Other than it looks far too generic, much like the last 750 \ 1000 model, I'm not sure about this latest Z800 as I've not ridden one... but the last two Z750's were appalling to ride, absolutely gutless with awful suspension ( and that includes the 'R' ) !!
Do you think i will look silly on this bike?? I'm 6'2'......
FIVE HUNDRED POUNDS?! holy hell thats a damn tank!
Whats up with the digital tachometers now a days. In my opinion it looks like shit. You can call me old fashioned, but nothing beats a good old analog tachometer. It gives the riding so much more feel to it in my opinion.
Bien lo dijo en su opinión no la opinión de todos son mejores los digitales
My gsx-r 600 K6 have 125 Hp...
Finally, someone to mention this...! fuck digitals man!
Now that is what I call a video :-). After some disregardful "look at my ass" videos that you posted, you guys are back on track :-). No more back cameras please, only stuff like this please :-). Keep up with the good work :-)
The last model had appalling suspension, even the uprated R model we had here wasn't a patch on the Street Triple. The 'old' sleeved down 750 engine was gutless and this one seems little more, why add a couple of teeth to the rear sprocket if its performance was adequate..this is 800cc for goodness sake and it has no more torque than a 600 !?? Sorry, even if this bike is a far more credible model than the last edition, this 'expensive version' should be a lot lot CHEAPER than the competition !
about 10kg heavier than my `99 RF900
is that how you check your bhp on wikipedia? lmfao
put it on a rolling road with legit bhp readings and you will see what it really puts out at the wheel.
thats waaaaay to heavy a bike for the power its got fuck that 675 is the way to go
Much much better video review. I really want this bike now. lol bike Michael had fun dodging cyclists and dodging cars that are dodging cyclists..
Thanks, strange tho.