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Mythic+ DPS Types | What Makes A Spec Have Good DPS?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
  • Dragonflight Season 4, Patch 10.2.7: Mythic+ DPS - Fast Ramp Burst? Slow Ramp Burst? Consistent DPS? Hard Target Capped? Uncapped AoE?
    Today we're looking that the DPS Profiles of Specs for Mythic+ and look into some of the more popular, FOTM picks, and how does "good damage" happens in Mythic+ Keys.
    00:00 Damage Profiles
    00:56 The Two Factions
    02:00 Shadow DPS
    05:20 Destruction DPS
    06:45 Beast Mastery DPS
    08:03 Retribution DPS
    10:00 Different Damage Profiles
    13:58 TY PATRONS! & Free ways to support!
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Комментарии • 47

  • @jonmarko6594
    @jonmarko6594 2 месяца назад +7

    LOL, the silence when you hovered over the rain of fire spam at 5:44 fuckin killed me 😂

    • @crunkosaur
      @crunkosaur 2 месяца назад

      just... do some destruction gaming.. 😇

  • @Sly_404
    @Sly_404 2 месяца назад +13

    If you wanna have a miserable time in S4, play enhancer! Not even from a pure dps point of view, but the entire lashing flames spread playstile falls apart in a big pull vdh meta.
    Good luck trying to chase the 6 out of 15 moving nameplates with flameshock on it.

    • @TheScabbyRat
      @TheScabbyRat 2 месяца назад +4

      Awww mate tell me about it! Its not even that i dislike the tab target playstyle cause its fun but fucking hell the amount of times you tab into a target with no flame shock is so grim

  • @zumzici1234
    @zumzici1234 2 месяца назад +1

    Good video. Playing a bit of spriest last season before it got popular really drilled into me the importance of damage profiles and i feel like the vast majority of people don't take them into consideration when choosing what to play or what to invite to their group.
    It's ultimately why i stopped playing spriest. ( i hated feeling so useless on tyr weeklies or on s3 dungeons which had a lot of packs with low health mobs )

  • @rivyrooo5016
    @rivyrooo5016 2 месяца назад +1

    The main difference between Shadow and Destruction is the fact that Shadow has insane priority target damage while maintaining that AoE. Destro warlock, on the other hand, deals with every mob with no way to prioritize one of them without resorting to chaos bolting, and most of the pulls do have a prio mob to kill before you can move further.

    • @CROOKYCRISP
      @CROOKYCRISP 2 месяца назад

      Yeah I hope they fix this issue of certain classes and specs being able to essentially single target a mob and do crazy aoe damage too.

  • @alberto9999999999099
    @alberto9999999999099 2 месяца назад

    can u speak of which dungeon is the easiest and faster in next video?

  • @akraken4906
    @akraken4906 2 месяца назад +4

    Assassination is so low it isn't even on the list of specs LMAO

  • @ohyikeslol
    @ohyikeslol 2 месяца назад

    yeah this is actually something really misunderstood, people will look at tier lists and expect top dps from certain classes but those classes only shine at the highest of content. for the large majority of players, instant damage profiles that dont have to ramp will perform better than the "top" classes consistently. not to mention things like shadow priest requiring your tank to commit to a pull - often they will pull a couple and stand still so you shadow crash then they go pull another one lol

  • @LightbladeGaming
    @LightbladeGaming 2 месяца назад +2

    Target Caps were a mistake and should be removed bring back full uncap to everyone

  • @CB38096
    @CB38096 2 месяца назад +4

    Can confirm running 0’s as spriest feels awful 😂

    • @zackriden79
      @zackriden79 2 месяца назад

      Spriest is bad

    • @travislebaube7646
      @travislebaube7646 2 месяца назад +2

      Running tyrannical 8s or lower feels awful. Tyrannical week is easily low 300k while fortified is high 300k low 400k.

    • @travislebaube7646
      @travislebaube7646 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@zackriden79 yeah, I agree. Shadow priest is pretty darn sick

    • @ThomasAbe
      @ThomasAbe 2 месяца назад

      ​@@travislebaube7646I ran 8s as holy last week and then tried shadow this week (tyrannical). I did not like 😐
      I hope I enjoy it more next week

    • @travislebaube7646
      @travislebaube7646 2 месяца назад

      @@ThomasAbe I haven't done healing, not with how amazing shadow is this season. But, I am curious, what exactly did you not like about it?

  • @travislebaube7646
    @travislebaube7646 2 месяца назад +2

    Did I misunderstand the initial part where you stated Shadow Priest is capable of 20+ target AOE?

    • @okkipooky8612
      @okkipooky8612 2 месяца назад +1

      Many specs have spells that are “soft capped” at 20 or scale up to 20…as he mentioned in the video UH DK/priest/rain of fire destro builds/boomkin starfall as well as starfire (I believe)…fairly certain there is also EQ/LMT for elemental shaman…beast cleave for BM..ignite scaling for fire mage etc etc…these spells typically don’t hit as hard as say divine storm…but they just hit more targets or deal more dmg under their “reduced dmg” conditions…this is why a ret paladin can shit on anyone if there are just 5 targets…but starts losing on pulls larger than 8 if the mobs stay alive long enough for the ramp classes to set up.

    • @travislebaube7646
      @travislebaube7646 2 месяца назад

      @okkipooky8612 So he did mean it that way. I understand what you mean, but a priest isn't just soft capped. Our single aoe ability is hard capped at 8. Beyond that, we have to single target each individual before getting into our rotation. It is only viable to dot a few during tank round up, then throw our aoe for 8 additional. Max is literally 12 before extreme dps loss, and that's only on pull for the first 21 seconds of the pull (realistically, about 16 seconds for pre-dotted ones), after that we are hard capped at 8 until next pull. And, there is zero damage going out on any mob that is not dotted, even if they are pixel-stacked.

  • @Hurrican1987
    @Hurrican1987 2 месяца назад

    Ele shaman was only doing damage because there teir sets were broken and getting the enhance four set too

    • @antygoniusz
      @antygoniusz 2 месяца назад

      what the fuck? Could you elaborate more on that tier interaction, please?

    • @Hurrican1987
      @Hurrican1987 2 месяца назад +1

      @@antygoniusz basically you would get the feral spirit summon that enhance got for its two set and the primordial wave reduction on the cool down because of the feral spirits, but blizzard fixed it and it doesn’t work anymore, but it was blasting last week

  • @gacekp
    @gacekp 2 месяца назад

    Yes, shadow suffers so much atm

    • @Pomme95
      @Pomme95 2 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂

    • @ohyikeslol
      @ohyikeslol 2 месяца назад

      not sure if you're trying to be ironic but i do genuinely agree that it feels pretty terrible in the majority of pugged keys

  • @lostcause78
    @lostcause78 2 месяца назад

    Of all the pure dps classes, rogue is back at the bottom. Was good while it lasted!

  • @LegacypvpVideos
    @LegacypvpVideos 2 месяца назад

    Imagine your main is MM hunter and your girlfriend asks you how long your burst is 😆

    • @tim9570
      @tim9570 2 месяца назад

      😢

  • @Sn4t3r
    @Sn4t3r 2 месяца назад +2

    Bm hunter bis

  • @TrolololoTheTabbie
    @TrolololoTheTabbie 2 месяца назад

    Devastation evoker burst lasts 40ish seconds, don't put us in hunter bin

    • @adriankovacs4133
      @adriankovacs4133 2 месяца назад +1

      us haha the identification with the class is so cute lol

  • @slicknick4140
    @slicknick4140 2 месяца назад +2

    BUT THE DPS METER SAID I WAS CARRYING. IDC IF THE MOBS WERE DEAD IN 5 SECONDS. UR BAD.
    😂 Typical low key mentality

  • @Mitchievous13
    @Mitchievous13 2 месяца назад

    Every time shadow feels strong to play (not just as a support for group) everyone rerolls and nerfs come swiftly. Reroll culture sucks.

  • @ozo766
    @ozo766 2 месяца назад +2

    What's the point of having a cap on AOE DPS on some classes when others have none. Either take away AOE CAP or give CAP to all DPS. FIX THIS BLIZZARD.

    • @jeromenancyfr
      @jeromenancyfr 2 месяца назад +1

      I understand why it can be problematic for balance, but, I think it is the same point as having different ranges, or different abilities, or different cooldowns.
      It gives some variety to classes and their damage profile.

  • @christmasham4312
    @christmasham4312 2 месяца назад

    BM does to much dmg

  • @nickbohannon2184
    @nickbohannon2184 2 месяца назад

    "Doesn't have as easy of a time hitting 20 mobs." "Limited by numbers" when talking about RET paladin?!
    My brother in Christ. Just yesterday I did a pull and stayed at over 1mil consistent dps *because* the tank pulled 20 mobs. Nobody else even came close. Ret paladin isn't limited by *shit* right now.

    • @Dandosa1
      @Dandosa1 2 месяца назад +3

      To be fair, in a 20+ mob pull, 1m isn’t even close to what other specs are capable of. I’m a tank main, the first pull of brackenhide has about 20 mobs, have seen 1.3-1.5m by priests, mages and even hunters

    • @Listitan
      @Listitan 2 месяца назад

      @@Dandosa1 He means CONSISTENT dmg. Only Destro wl and retris are capable of this. :) PS: im a spriest main playing about 16-18 keys, :D Im giga fine but retris and destro wl are totally broken.

    • @talonarayan
      @talonarayan 2 месяца назад

      You much to learn young ret-adin.

    • @nickbohannon2184
      @nickbohannon2184 2 месяца назад

      @@Dandosa1 At not even 500 ilvl? Only thing I've seen hit 1 mil sustained so far myself (in ANY group personally) was a single survival hunter, and that was in a +9 key geared af.

  • @joshuadaniel6496
    @joshuadaniel6496 2 месяца назад +6

    Indirectly calling for Unholy nerfs is almost as laughable as Survival not getting buffed.
    You can do better.

    • @fatandhandsome
      @fatandhandsome 2 месяца назад +8

      Not sure where you got that, but good luck with your DK!